October 15, 2024 • 41 mins
Herd Hierarchy: Colin ranks his top 10 NFL teams after week 6
Colin talks to Nick Wright from First Things First to find out if Adams fixes any of the Jets issues after they fell to 2-4 on the season
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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on a Tuesday. Davante Adams is now in New York,
Jet Live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd wherever you
may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. I'm sticking with it.
Jets win nine games, Battle to the week, seventeen and
eighteen for the playoffs, may or may not make it.
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I said they wouldn't, but the wild card spot in
the AFC is weak. The division winners in the AFC
are excellent. They're all gonna be excellent. You got Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson from the Holmes, your Cjstroud. Those are great teams.
Wild card teams E. I think the Jets could still
get in.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
J Mack.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I was very positive the last hour. I could have
been very negative. That's not who I am. I don't
want to be marginalized or to find that way, mister positive,
I walk around rainbows, birds chirping. Jets still have a
shot at what playoffs? Two and four? Okay, now, Nick,
right around the corner. He may disagree. It's time for
the Herd hierarchy. We are now starting to get a separation.
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The best quarterback dating to last Thursday brought pretty over
Gino to last night, Josh Allen over Aaron the best quarterback,
and we told you it was coming. Won every game
this weekend. So you'll notice in the Herd hierarchy there's
some pretty good quarterbacks. Here we go, Herd hierarchy time.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College number.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Ten Tampa Bay Buccaneers four and two. Their offense leads
the NFL with four games over thirty points. And Baker
Mayfield dating the last year is humming. A big part
of it is he and Chris Godwin are money together.
And also the run game here is second in the league.
Rashad White, Bucky Irvin, Shawn Tucker. Giving Baker Mayfield a
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run game, like any quarterback, is a game changer. Baker
Mayfield right now you're gonna get some Pro Bowl votes.
He's humming. The Bucks are their ten. Number nine Atlanta
just beat him barely, so I'll give it Atlanta, who's
two and oh on the road. I don't think they're
quite as inconsistent defensively, or I should say overall, is
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an effort team. I like Kirk Cousins, been around the league,
consistent personality, two and oh on the road. Their issue
is they don't get to the quarterback. They brought Matthew
Judon in from New England. He hasn't done anything, so
they only have five sacks this year. So I think
I think Atlanta and Tampa are the two best teams.
I think I think Kirk Cousins is such a steady,
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unemotional ship. I give that a slight edge. But those
two teams are going to battle to the end. Carolina
Saint or Toast, they got both those teams have a
million issues. Number eight Buffalo, They're four to zero against
teams under five hundred. They're a little like the Dallas Cowboys.
Can't beat the good teams, beat the bad teams, and
they are twenty one to five against the AFC East
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over the last five seasons. So it's a little Dallas Cowboys.
They can be fools gold. I will say the offense
is tied for the second fewest giveaways in the NFL
this year, and James Cook was out last night. I
think they have added a dimension to their offense. I
love their tight end Kincaid, Dawson, Knox, but we gotta
be honest. They don't beat the good team. Kansas City
beats the good teams. Baltimore can beat the good teams.
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Buffalo's not beating the good teams. I put them at
eight number seven. I may have the Packers two low
again this week. Lead the NFL and turnover differential Jordan
loves Miss two games, he's second in the league, and
touchdown passes. I love this kid, had my questions early.
He's humming Dobbs Christian Watson. They got three tight ends
like five different players have multiple touchdown receptions. Nobody else
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in the NFL saying that, and they lead the NFL
with fifty four what they call big plays. So again
this week I have them probably a spot too low,
but they're a young team and can be a tad
inconsistent half to half. But I have them at seven
number six, if Joe Mixon plays, I think the Texans
are a handful. Their only loss came on the road
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to the Vikings. They had a stinker. Everybody gets a stinker.
Everybody but the Chiefs gives you a stinker. Joe Mixon
changes CJ. Stroud Nico Collins out. They got to get
him back. The defense with the Miko Ryans is excellent.
I think this team could get to the AFC Championship.
I don't think they're quite mature enough with big game
experience to beat a Kansas City. But if I was
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Kansas City, I wouldn't want to play them. I think
this team's are to good Texan six, number five Niners. Now,
they're not good in the red zone. My belief is
Christian McCaffrey will solve that. But they've led by ten
plus points in five or six games. They are physical,
they're multi dimensional. Because of Shanahan, they all seemingly always
have a lead number two passing offense, number three rushing offense,
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and that's without Christian McCaffrey. Also, Brock Kurdy has been
tremendous on third down this year. You know how much
that means to me. I think the great quarterbacks are
third down quarterbacks. My home's the best in a long time.
I have San Francisco at five, number four, Ravens at four,
number one total offense, number one rushing offense. Lamar Jackson
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is now twenty two and one against the NFC. I
worry about their pass defense, and this is going to
be the big issue with this team is they're going
to play down even the games they play well and lead.
I worry about them late in games. But you know,
I love me Lamar Jackson and Baltimore. I have him
at four, number three, But I like that old line
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with Detroit that I think can control the clock and
keep their secondary, which is a liability off the field.
Now they got to figure out what to do with
Hutchison's loss Max Crosby. I mean, the Raiders just gave
out DeVante Adams. Do you give away Max Crosby and
you get more picks? They have an excellent running back duo,
best offensive line. But the schedule gets tough. Now three
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of the next four games Vikings, Packers, Texans. There's gonna
be a couple l's here potentially for the Lions. Number
two Vikings off of Bye, They're gonna beat Detroit. That's
my guess. One of my picks of the week off
of by this team's gonna beat Detroit. Detroit's off a
huge win, feeling themselves only undefeated team in the NFC.
Now again, like Baltimore, my concern is great against the run,
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not great against the pass. I could see this team
going to the playoffs and dominating somebody and leaking oil
on the back end. And that's why I have them
at two, number one Kansas City, eleven straight wins. They're
you know, I still never know what I'm getting. A
wide receiver is Rashi Rice coming back? Juju Smith Schuster
can't set for Xavier Worthies kind of a gadget guy.
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Travis Kelsey can disappear. But best defensive lineman, best defensive coordinator,
best coach, best quarterback, O line is good enough. I think,
you know, I'm just gonna take them, put them here.
I guess they're more vulnerable. I guess, but they get
number one? All right? Nick Wright is now joining me
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live Nick Wright? Anything about that night? I gotta be honest.
A couple of weeks ago, online study said that the
hurt hierarchy had become the sort of default ranking system
in America. That's what the polls say. What do you
make of mind?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yet, listen of all the traditional some would call it
archaic power ranking systems, yours is the best.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Everyone agrees.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now you want a true tiers system with a committee
and names they people know where to go to. What
for the old school power rankings is the best? I
would third straight week. I don't have any real issues.
I would have the Bears in there in place of
the Falcons. But that's probably a nine to eleven, right,
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That's what I figured you were gonna say, like that
nine ten eleven the Bucks like it was two thursdays ago,
But it really looked like the Bucks had that Falcons
game one, yep, and then they squandered it at the end.
The Bucks could be sitting here at five and one,
and I mean, don't look now, but MVP.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Could be coming to an awards ceremony near you. He's
been awesome, and Todd Bowles deserves credit, and so the
Bucks are a real team. I agree with the reason
I said flip the Falcons and the Bears is just
because of those same concerns about the Falcons defense that
you alluded to. But yeah, otherwise, I think this really
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solid power or heard hierarchy once again.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, so last night I watched the Jets. What do
you know? They fire Sala, their best coach on the staff,
and their defense isn't as good. But they got rid
of Hackett, which Sala wanted to, and their offense ran
motion and ran the ball. So if Sala could have
just stayed and they moved or demoted Hackett, I think
they could win the game. Last night. I don't think
they were as good defensively. So before we get to
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the Devonte Adams, I broke this down earlier. There were
four big plays in the second half of this game,
and the Bills made all of them. Taylor Rapp a
couple of breakups, the amazing interception by Tarron Johnson, which
is an all time play, and then Josh Allen on
third and four running for it doing them the Holmes.
I think he might have just decided I'm gonna run
for it, and those were the four big plays. But
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I did come out of that thinking it's a grown
up offense. They face a lot of mediocre quarterbacks coming up.
I don't think the sky is falling at two, and
am I nuts?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
No, you're nuts.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
You're nuts there listen twenty four days ago, Aaron Rodgers
the media. The next step for us is to learn
expect to win and learn to dominate. Since then, they
lost to Bo Nicks and the Broncos and were held
in single digits. Roger they lost, They were down seventeen
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to nothing, lost to the Vikings, fired their coach, blew
a game to Buffalo, Panic traded for Devonte Adams. This
is a bad team. And I saw you know colleagues
that I respect saying, oh, today is the fork in
the road moment for the Jets, either the beginning of
the end or the end of the beginning. No, it's
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not Game thirty two for the Washington Wizards when they
lose to the Hawks is not a fork in the
road moment of the franchise. It's just the franchise continuing
to be the franchise. I'm forty years old, Colin. There
have been few truisms in my life in sports.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
One of them is this.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
The Jets have always been the Jets. They've been poorly run,
they have bad ownership, they don't they're not forward thinking.
I had to listen to people all off season, lecture
me about how great their weapons are. And now you've
got the quarterback publicly throwing under the bus, Mike Williams,
who they're going to end up trading I would assume
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for ten cents on the dollar because he's not on
the same page as Rogers. And now DeVante's there and
they're gonna act like that's the problem. The problem with
the Jets, Colin is very, very simple. There are two things. First,
one is this, if the ball is not out within
two seconds, they are cooked. Because Rogers, when it comes
out quick, it looks good, it looks sharp, they look
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they're on time. But he can't move and the line
for the sixth straight year, can't hold up. The other
problem is this, and this is a real indictment because
Rogers yesterday publicly throwing Mike Williams under the bus. Yeah,
was such an embarrassing moment. He is the anti Patrick Mahomes.
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You give Patrick Mahomes the ball with a chance to
win the game, you trust he is going to go
win the game.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
And after the game, if.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
They don't win, no matter how outrageous it sounds, he's
going to say, that's my fault.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That was on me.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I should have handed the ball to NBS Rogers three
weeks ago. Chance to beat the Broncos. Ball in his hands.
They get fourteen yards of offense in terrible weather, put
the kicker in a rough Spoty misses the kick last week,
down six, chance to win the game. Ball in his hands,
interception throwing to Mike Williams. Last night, ball in his hands,
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down three, chance to win the game. Interception thrown to
Mike Williams. Then a postgame press conference where he all
but diagrams the all twenty two, explaining.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
How not my fault at all. You're not gonna win
that way.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
They're good, they don't have enough talent, the defense isn't
good enough. They're not a receiver away. So no, I
do think you're crazy. They're a two win team that
is supposed to be a two win team.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, Well they've beaten Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis, so
you are what your record is and who you've beaten at.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, congrats, guys, congrats, you've beaten the two of the
only teams in the league worse than you, and you're
gonna lose to the Steelers. You're gonna beat the Patriots,
and then they're gonna be like, well at three and.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Five, is it over?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Then you're gonna lose to the Texans, and we're gonna
have to listen Aaron Rodgers say to us, I've been
in this position before.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
What did I do?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Then we reeled off all those victories. He's not the
same player. They're not a good team, They're not a
good franchise. He's not the same player.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So I want to talk about Dallas. I have said before,
I have comped them with the Lakers, which is two insular,
too many friends of family in the building. As NFL
and NBA have gotten global and smarter and broader, the
Cowboys are the Jones family and the Lakers are the
bust family. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
You got to bring the best of the best globally
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into your organization. You got to be the Dodger, so
you gotta be Kansas City. You got to bring outside influences,
different spags, read people from different organizations, and so I
look at the Cowboys loss and Jerry this morning is ripping.
He's went on local media on a radio show and
he's ripping the host it's a circus there, and I'm like,
if Jarah doesn't realize Jara's the problem, nothing changes. What
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do you think the rest of the year looks like
for this franchise and going forward?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, listen, I was more bullish on Dallas than I
think most going into the year, and part of that
was because I was so pessimistic of Philly and I
didn't see Washington popping like this. So I'm like, well,
they're going to win the division because they win twelve
games every year, even this year. If they don't win twelve,
they can win ten or eleven. And I thought the
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lack of a running game concern was a little overwrought.
I thought the run defense concern.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Was a little overwrought.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's like, there'll be a little worse they were last
year and win ten or eleven games. Right now, the
things that were concerns going into the season have become
not just concerns but massive problems. They can't run the ball,
which is impacting Dak Prescott. He's becoming more turnover prone
again because defenses no. All you can do to Hurtius
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is throw the ball and the defense. Four straight games
of getting absolutely rolled at home is an institutional problem.
They have allowed more points in four consecutive home games
than any team in fifty years in the NFL. Just
a mortifying spot considering prior to that playoff game Colin,
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the Cowboys had won sixteen straight home games. Now they've
lost four straight and they just get rolled in the
first half of all of them. I still think, because
of Dak and CD and Michael will come back that
they are going to be a respectable team the second
half of the year, but they clearly have major structural problems,
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and Jerry's total refusal this offseason to go spend money
seems like it has put a very hard ceiling on
this team. If you remember, in the off season, I
postulated he wasn't spending money because he was unsure about Dak.
This was going to be a proven year for Dak,
and he wanted to see what he could do with
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less talented guys before he went out and paid him.
And that made sense to me until days before the season.
He just paid Dak anyway, so they're locked into him.
So I don't know what they're doing, but I don't
think it's a good plan in any direction.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So Nick Seriani, it was shocking to me. Can you
imagine Bill Belichick the late Bill Walsh jousting with fans.
I said, it's like a breakup that's about to happen
and one of the people in the relationship starts getting kooky,
the shaved head jousting with fans. A lot of people
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are positive with the Eagles. I think he's cooked here.
I think it's over.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, you said, can you imagine Bill Belichick? Can Colin
you run a business in this scenario, your Jeffrey LORII
and Logan at the volume is Nick Sirianni. Can you
imagine if after a rough six months or so, Logan
comes to you and is like, I need a week off,
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I need to reset, and you're like, okay, no problem,
and his first day back he shows up with a
shaved head is terrible. That day once again, it gets
in the YouTube chat, starts streaming at people, and then
when you say we need to have a zoom to
discuss what happened to her, he shows up with his
kids on his lap, so.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You can't yell at him.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
That's what Sirianni did.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, you wouldn't allow that to happen at a car dealership,
much less than Philadelphia Eagles, and American history is very
consistent in one thing. The spontaneous showed up having shaved
your head is not a sign things are going great
as my like it doesn't. Nobody on a winning streak
is like, you know what, I'm gonna shave my head
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and shock everyone and then yell at the customers. The
guy's out of his depth. He's always been out of
his depth. They were able to cover up for it.
And there have been ninety two wins in the NFL
this year. Where would you rank that victory over the
low begone Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Browns eighty ninety ninetieth.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
That is not something you celebrate about. And then the
other part that I found noteworthy was this after the game,
with his kids on his lap as shields from the media,
he was like, oh, yeah, players told me to do it.
I gotta get back to being myself. I gotta be fiery.
That was Sunday Monday or that yeah Monday yesterday, started
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his press conference. I'm very sorry. He turns out, maybe
my boss didn't love the old screaming at the customer's thing,
and I maybe shouldn't have done that. I mean, we
know where this train is ending where this is, and
to me at this point, it's all it's just inevitable.
He's obviously not going to be their head coach next year,
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and I think that they are worse than their three
and two records suggests.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
By the way, ninety seconds the two minutes left, Davonte Adams,
let's circle back to it. I thought it was so
telling that immediately the Jets lost and he called out
Mike Williams. There's always now. The problem is you can't
blame Sola or Nett Hackett, so it's Mike Williams. Do
you think Devonte Adams? You don't think they't he'll make
them better at all?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Well, no, I think he'll make them marginally better. But
I don't think the Jets are as sooned to be
thirty two year old wide receiver coming off a hamstring
injury away, Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I think that the defense is not as good as
people thought it was going to be. The pass rush
is the defensive front was supposed to be excellent, it's
been average. The secondary is excellent, but now it's banged up.
The offensive line was supposed to be good, it's been
average at best. Rogers I Colin. Have youer at some
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point producers do this. Look at post MVP Aaron Rodgers
numbers per game in production with his last year in
Green Bay and this year in New York, and compare
it to Derek Carr in the same timeframe. They're identical.
Everyone is acting like, Okay, the Jets are this average
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team with average coaching, but they've got this star quarterback. No,
they are a below average team with below average coaching
that has a below average, aging, curmudgeonly quarterback who will
take none of the blame, who will always let you
know whose fault it actually was, and is increasingly immobile.
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And if he doesn't get the ball out immediately, if
they get in third and long, they are cooked every time.
Last night, if there was one drug one run that
didn't work, they were done because he wasn't gonna be
able to get the ball out immediately. So do I
think DeVante Adams will help a little bit?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I do.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Do I think that is enough to turn the Jets,
who look like a six win team and do more
than a seven win team?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
The DeVante Adams trade is noteworthy to me because it
means a team like the Bills or the Ravens, who
are actual contenders.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Won't be getting him. Not because the Jets.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Who are about to fire everyone and have the quarterback
retire at the end of the year and start over again.
Because again I remind America they're the Jets. No, I
don't think he moves the needle for them significantly.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
First things first, Nick right, as always, fire today, Great
seeing you buddy, See you buddy, all right, Nick Right, Yeah,
I'm taking a little more positive spin. But there is
a level of dysfunction. You're not going to take an
interim coach into the playoffs and beat a you know,
and beat a Mike Tomlin generally, or a or an
Andy Reider, a John Harbaugh, a Demico Ryans, or a
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Jim Harbaugh. I just I think the minute you did that,
there's a reason coordinators are coordinators, And I think taking
over for your boss in any industry is fraught with issues.
And I thought the defense last night, prime example, Saula
is out, the coordinator moved to the coach, and the
defense was leaky last night. I just think that's what
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Speaker 3 (22:48):
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Speaker 1 (22:56):
By the way, just read this story. Jordan Schultz sent
this to me. Fox NFL insider Mike Williams, the Jets
wide receiver who Aaron Rodgers called out last night, is
now available for a trade. Aaron clearly is running the franchise.
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Jmack with the.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
News, this is the herdline news.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I had to look at um. Mike Williams ten catches
on the season through six games.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, thank you, Mike Williams. Is not why they're losing games. Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Maybe I'll go back to send the Chargers the first
thing I thought they could use.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The dude perfect.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
All right, Colin, let's get started. Let's go back to
the Jets. Obviously, it's been a wild two weeks. Salah
canned last week and then the lost last night and
then they bring on DeVante Adams. Well of Woody Johnson,
the owner, was asked about the move. Here's what he
said this morning.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You just have to go with your instinct and what's
the best best thing to build a team, build a
winning team, and build a most importantly, build a culture.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Still optimistic that this season is selvage despite Latin's.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Results, sallegeboy, we're gonna chick.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know you can add the words after that, We're
gonna We're gonna do really well.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I you make it away, Howard take it away, let's
hear it.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I think, just like the stock market, when things are
beat up a little, people flee, but Warren Buffett doesn't.
When you know, these are moments everybody Now Pittsburgh four
and two. Now they're benching their quarterback. I'm selling that
stock Jets two and four. They actually have a run game.
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A competent play caller Hassan Reddick could be in the offing,
and DeVante Adams is there, and the schedule gets weak.
No more niners on the schedule, the whole world. When
the whole world moves away, I think the smarter investors
move in. Look at this schedule, time out so now
they got the Steeler with a quarterback change and Drake May.
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They're four and four. Okay, now the schedule gets interesting, Houston,
though you're at home. It's a short week. We have
we have said short weeks generally advantages.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Nico Collins could be back for that game or we'll see.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But by that time, DeVante Adams is absolutely a part
of the ad.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
The ham streamers. I know he's hanging out with Aaron
Rodgers already at the facility. I do want to go
back to what you said though, when everybody's fleeing, So
everybody fleed the Jets after that loss to the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I was all in.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I said Vikings. We got the Vikings in London, and
everybody's like, oh a Jets lose to the Vikings. Statement,
we're both all in on the Bills. Last night, what
happens like this team's finding new waste to lose.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
They are.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's why they're never going to be a super Bowl team.
As the current construct, they're not a super Bowl team.
But are they in the mayor the AFC where the
wild card teams you're babbling are like the colds in theory? Yeah, there,
I think they could be the best.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
When is Aaron Rodgers going to deliver a game winning
drive for the New York Jets? Just give me what.
He's had three chances in the last three weeks. Fair,
he's over for three. Isn't that why you got him?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So the first one Denver, blame the kicker, second one
blame saul A. Third blame Mike Williams. Does Aaron have
a little self awareness to acknowledge I keep pointing the fingers.
Maybe he needs a mirror.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, that's a great call. He calls out Mike Williams
on the route. I mean, I don't know it was
an underthrown, he slip whatever. But at some point Aaron's
got to say, hey, man, is back to back weeks.
I had the chance with the game on the line,
and I failed. He did fail. It's okay to say that.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Well, I thought he played pretty well last night. I
thought my takeaway was Taylor Rap gets a game ball,
he was outstanding, out standing safety, and Taran Johnson with
an Ed Reid level interception. If I was handing out
game balls last night, I'm giving tarn Johnson, Taylor Rap,
and Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
So we can't queue it up here on but that
passed to Mike Williams. If you watch the full play,
somebody put it online. Briest Hall block hit the line
then leaks out Brees wide open in the flat.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Nobody near Breese Hall.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Why live to fight another day? Why are you going
for the hero ball fifty yards down? Like?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
It's just.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
A right all right, let's move on, Colin. Big matchup man,
that next week's like, I mean, we say this every
week is awesome, but Packers Titans is an incredible matchup
featuring two of the league's best quarterbacks. Yeah, well, Houston
has already faced Josh Allen the season, Colin, but with
Jordan Love on the horizon, Here's what Demico Ryan said
(27:34):
about facing mister Love.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Going against Jordan Love this week will be the best
quarterback we've seen this year. So it'll be a really,
really tough matchup a really good team. Green Bay has
done a great job this year. It's just you know,
they're explosive on offense and they pose a lot of challenges,
not only with Love, but guys, he's getting the ball to.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, you believe he.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Just forgot They saw Alan two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Ors oh i think Jordan Love right now is I'm
not talking career resume. I think Jordan Love is every
bit Josh Allen in the moment now, and I think
Josh Allen is going to go historically as a better quarterback.
But Jordan Love is playing at an incredible level with
a bunch of kids. So Jordan Love right now is
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absolutely a top five quarterback.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
We usually do the tier where we have Mahomes and
Alan and Lamorrow and Lamar. Those four are above.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm saying I think he is encroaching very quickly on
the Lamar Jackson group.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I think Love is better than brock Party right now.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yes, Bigger, better arm better athlete. Absolutely hid. I can
admit when I'm wrong. I thought for three years I
joke that we had more footage of Bigfoot than Jordan Love.
It was like the Packers were suppressing video. And then
the first four games he played, I thought it was awful.
Matt Lafleur's and I this guy in the league would
go to the podium and yell at it.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It was like the first half of last season.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But by the end of the year it's like whoa whoa,
whoa wo And that Dallas game whatever light switch came on, like,
oh no, we got a great quarterback here.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I just I'm gonna preach a first of all I did.
This was the first game I bet this week. But
I would just preach a little bit of caution. Okay,
we're cooking the Cardinals who have one of the worst defenses. Okay,
Jane and Daniels, what ads?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
What about when he cooked the Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
What about them? Who is it cooking the Cowboys these days?
I mean, look at Jared Goffs the game you can
be Derek Carr lit them up.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
My wife says that sometimes I get into stuff all
in and get a little crazy. Okay, Okay, hey, if
that's my fault loving America, I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's like me with certain kiddies like Halloween.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I'm literally I'm on a perpetual bag of Skittles every
day now, sugar High Crash. You know, I have my moments, but.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
You know I've been here eight years. Yeah, like the
first three years they would say, Jason, what would you
like for lunch? And a bag of Skittles would be
included in my lunch every day.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
They don't even ask anymore. That's what I have for
breakfast skittles? What what?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
What? What's your favorite flavor?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Though?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
What color that?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
None of them have flavors, They're just sugar. They're my
favorite sugar.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
The yellow skittles. I don't like them.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Final story, Uh, Lamar Jackson and Jade and Daniels both
really good in the first head to head meeting, combining
for over six hundred and fifty yards three touchdowns. Despite
the Ravens pulling off the win. Lamar gave credit to
Jadon Daniels incredible play so far.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Are you motivated by that? By all the hype about
Jadon Daniels coming into this building. I believe he deserves
all the ipe's get. You know, he played a tremendous
game right there. They just came up short. He's been
proving it. You know, it's rookie seeon first his game.
See he's been kind of amazing. Yeah, he's the real deal.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
So this is interesting. Our staff here pulled some odds
to win Offensive Rookie of the Year. Jade Daniels minus
one ninety five so one.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Hundred dollars audience, Well, that means.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You have to bet one hundred ninety five dollars to
win one hundred. Caleb Williams is plus money one sixty five.
If you do this fun experiment where you look at
the schedules, Washington's schedule gets much tougher. Yes, now I
know first impressions. Everybody loves Daniels. He's been outstanding. After
they destroy Carolina this week they go head to head.
(31:26):
Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams column, that's a great matchup
in two weeks. And I'm not gonna lie to you.
This New York Giants front is pretty good. We know
Pittsburgh gets after it. Daniels has two more games against Pittsburgh.
I think there's some value on Caleb Williams to win offense.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But also his division is so good and the defenses
he's gonna be in shootouts even if he's getting beat.
Teams are gonna be playing prevan because everybody Minnesota, Green Bay,
Detroit can score. So even if Caleb's in a losing effort,
he's gonna be sitting there playing catch up against prevent defenses.
That's a track meet division. Everybody can score. So now
I think I think, listen, the best thing is the NFC.
(32:05):
AFC did this for years. NFC finally landed two star quarterbacks,
not just for Fox, but Chicago and Washington are massive markets.
We've been sitting here looking around, you know, you know
we're trying, you know, as Fox CBS is look at AFC,
at Fox. We want these Washingtons in these Atlantas and Dallas,
New York. You want them to It can't all be
(32:27):
Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
You know some of the great quarterbacks in the NFC.
You got Jalen Hurts, Dak Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams GoF.
I mean, obviously brock Perty the NFC is low. If
you ranked the ten quarterbacks in the NFC, like, does
Kirk Cousins even make the top ten?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I don't know that's listen Gino smith Man, He's oh,
come on, no, stop stop Kyler Murray your boy. Top
ten quarterbacks in the NFC. Yeah, I mean listen to
Okay Stafford GoF Party Stafford GoF, Kirk Cousins, Baker Mayfield,
Sam Darnold, Jordan Love. I'm not doing order. I'm at six.
(33:05):
Rock Purdy is seven. Talen Hurts, I got my doubts.
I don't know I like him, but he's a turnover machine.
I'm gonna just say if Jalen hurt Jayden, I mean again,
I didn't even put Bye by the way I named him.
I didn't even put Caleb or Jayden in yet.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Baker Mayfield, Oh yeah, he's in there. NFC is stacked
at quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
No, no, no, they went through about a three year drought.
They're back. I mean that's when I say, with Dak, well,
where is Dak if you could choose today quarterbacks. Now
that Jayden and Caleb of verride, Jordan loves money, Gof's
next to mahomes and yards and touchdowns. Baker's on fire,
Suddenly you think, oh we got Dak. Yeah. The giants
in Washington aren't layups anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
It's almost like Dak's runner up for MVP last year
or third place.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And that's as good as it's gonna get a little
bit of boodle, right.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
A little And I think Dallas bought it hook line
and sinker.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yep. What happens when the owners, the GM is the
promoter is the talks.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
He's gonna fire you for say that.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Jmack with the News, Well.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
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Speaker 5 (34:17):
It's a primetime showdown on Fox College Football Friday as
Heisman contender Dylan Gabriel lead second ranked Oregon against Purdue.
It all kicks off Friday night at eight eastern.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Now be careful. Oregon played a highly emotional game. Now
they go on the road. The weather's going to be cold,
uncomfortable for.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
New They call Purdue per don't for I'm just saying,
I mean, they're bad this year.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Notre Dame hung short week.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
You're right, it's a bad spot.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
It's a bad spot for Oregon. Bad spot, a lot
of talent. They got a lot of talent. Well, anybody
out west knows they've been recruiting and buying good players,
and not all of it's that. I mean, they had
a good Mario christaball before the NIL opened up. He
was a great recruiter. So Oregon recruits the West Coast
honestly better than anybody else in the West Coast, including
(35:09):
the LA schools. They recruit LA better than LA schools
recruit LA. Kind of a problem. So Jerry Jones very
proud guy. He does a radio hit. So what Jerry
Jones does after Cowboy games, he walks down the hallway,
the cameras are all set up, and Jerry goes in
without the tie suit, you know, and he talks after
(35:30):
games and he's a little uh, he's a little you know,
terse after the game. And then Monday or Tuesday he'll
go on to a radio hit on was such one
oh three point five in Dallas or maybe it's one
oh five point three, it's one of those. And he
got into it for about fifteen twenty minutes with the
(35:51):
hosts this morning, and here's a sample of it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
You're not going to figure out it's what the team
is doing right or wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You don't really think.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
You go sit there with a microphone and tell me
all of the things that I've done wrong and without
going over the light, and we can spend a lot
of time going over digging on the value on the
fit piest things I've ever done that anybody has ever
had lized is myther Cowboy. It was an idiot that
(36:22):
did that. So idiot things can turn into good definition
smart things can turn into bad defeat.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's true, but uh, the
decision to be GM owner and spokesperson is a bad
one and it's hard to overcome. So that is Uh,
that's what's going on in Dallas this morning. Now what's
going on in New York? As DeVante Adams is a
jet I think I'm a little more positive than Nick
Wright was earlier today that stowed up about forty minutes ago.
(36:53):
I think it's going to be good. I don't wide
receivers who are aging hamstring issues expensive. I don't think
lead you to the promised land. I think they can help.
I think, you know, I think an old veteran receiver,
if he's a willing blocker occasional red zone target helps.
How much it helps, we'll see. I think you know.
(37:15):
I did the Herd hierarchy earlier this hour. I think
this weekend we really came to terms with the really
solid teams in this league, and all of them appear
to have one thing in common. If you look at
the Herd hierarchy, and it's very capable quarterbacks and quarterbacks
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that are either in their prime or like Kirk Cousins,
out of it, but are viewed as great leaders. I
mean Mahomes Donald again, Donald in his physical prime, Goff
Lamar Brock, Purty, c J. Stroud, Jordan Love, Josh Allen, Kirk,
Cousins and Mayfield. Mayfield and Sam Darnold have bounced around,
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but they're still at the tail end of their prime
and their first round picks for a reason. What you
don't have in this list is forty year old quarterback
who's prickly indifficult trying to save a wobbly franchise. And
I think that's a reality with Aaron Rodgers. People can
defend him, but three straight games Denver, Minnesota and now Buffalo,
he had the ball with a chance to win it
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and he couldn't. And you can't. You know, you can
blame Mike Williams, but Garrett Wilson's a stud. Breese Hall
was good last night. You can blame the kicker. I
just think Buffalo made good plays when it mattered most.
That was my takeaway in the game is that Buffalo
made three or four huge plays. Taylor Rap made two
huge plays for the Buffalo Bills to break up completions,
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and then Tehran Johnson had absolutely I mean, we always
people in my business, we tend to veer toward the negative.
Let's be honest between Taylor Rapp and Tarn Johnson. I mean,
this is a huge, huge interception by Tehran Fooled. Watch
him curl around. That's an incredible play. That's a once
(39:03):
a year play by a safety. That's just a good
football team. Beat your good player. And then Josh Allen
running for a first down with so Mahomes. It's a
big third down. It looks like he just called his
own number and he's just faster than your defensive end
or outside linebacker. We can be negative here, but I mean,
Josh Allen, the safety, they just made plays. The Jets
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didn't make those plays, So you know whether we want
to be negative on this stuff. And I understand that
gets more clicks and it's better for your algorithms on YouTube. Buffalo,
like Kansas City in a big spot, made really not
good great place. Those two Taylor rap safety hits, those
were ball Those were ball jarring hits. One was a touchdown,
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one was a first down. If the second one, if
they get a first down there on second and sixteen,
they reset the downs. There's two minutes left. The Jets
can milk the clock. They can toy they can. I
mean they can on fourth down. It's four down territory.
If they want to play for the win, they can.
If they want to play for overtime, they can. So
those were gigantic plays by very good players and McDermott's defense.
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No I bang on defensive coaches, but that's secondary for Buffalo.
Tip of the cap, big plays in big moments. J
Mac Mike Williams. It's been reported by Jordan Schultz, the
receiver who either slipped or ran the wrong route is
on the trade market for the Jets. That's been reported Officially,
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Aaron Rodgers runs the Jets.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
You remember the when they announced that the Jets got
Mike Williams. We were like excited. We're like, oh, Mike Williams,
the downfield threat, big body guy, throw it up in
the end zone. He hasn't been that guy. Injuries kind
of ruined what was the promising career for Williams. He's
a talented player.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Just don't be surprised at the Chargers. I mean, Lad
mcconkey's got a concussion.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Quentin Johnson turned in ankle last week.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
It's not I mean he liked playing here. Our three
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Jets win nine games, Battle to the week, seventeen and
eighteen for the playoffs, may or may not make it.
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I said they wouldn't, but the wild card spot in
the AFC is weak. The division winners in the AFC
are excellent. They're all gonna be excellent. You got Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson from the Holmes, your Cjstroud. Those are great teams.
Wild card teams E. I think the Jets could still
get in.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
J Mack.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I was very positive the last hour. I could have
been very negative. That's not who I am. I don't
want to be marginalized or to find that way, mister positive,
I walk around rainbows, birds chirping. Jets still have a
shot at what playoffs? Two and four? Okay, now, Nick,
right around the corner. He may disagree. It's time for
the Herd hierarchy. We are now starting to get a separation.
(01:25):
The best quarterback dating to last Thursday brought pretty over
Gino to last night, Josh Allen over Aaron the best quarterback,
and we told you it was coming. Won every game
this weekend. So you'll notice in the Herd hierarchy there's
some pretty good quarterbacks. Here we go, Herd hierarchy time.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College number.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Ten Tampa Bay Buccaneers four and two. Their offense leads
the NFL with four games over thirty points. And Baker
Mayfield dating the last year is humming. A big part
of it is he and Chris Godwin are money together.
And also the run game here is second in the league.
Rashad White, Bucky Irvin, Shawn Tucker. Giving Baker Mayfield a
(02:16):
run game, like any quarterback, is a game changer. Baker
Mayfield right now you're gonna get some Pro Bowl votes.
He's humming. The Bucks are their ten. Number nine Atlanta
just beat him barely, so I'll give it Atlanta, who's
two and oh on the road. I don't think they're
quite as inconsistent defensively, or I should say overall, is
(02:37):
an effort team. I like Kirk Cousins, been around the league,
consistent personality, two and oh on the road. Their issue
is they don't get to the quarterback. They brought Matthew
Judon in from New England. He hasn't done anything, so
they only have five sacks this year. So I think
I think Atlanta and Tampa are the two best teams.
I think I think Kirk Cousins is such a steady,
(02:58):
unemotional ship. I give that a slight edge. But those
two teams are going to battle to the end. Carolina
Saint or Toast, they got both those teams have a
million issues. Number eight Buffalo, They're four to zero against
teams under five hundred. They're a little like the Dallas Cowboys.
Can't beat the good teams, beat the bad teams, and
they are twenty one to five against the AFC East
(03:20):
over the last five seasons. So it's a little Dallas Cowboys.
They can be fools gold. I will say the offense
is tied for the second fewest giveaways in the NFL
this year, and James Cook was out last night. I
think they have added a dimension to their offense. I
love their tight end Kincaid, Dawson, Knox, but we gotta
be honest. They don't beat the good team. Kansas City
beats the good teams. Baltimore can beat the good teams.
(03:41):
Buffalo's not beating the good teams. I put them at
eight number seven. I may have the Packers two low
again this week. Lead the NFL and turnover differential Jordan
loves Miss two games, he's second in the league, and
touchdown passes. I love this kid, had my questions early.
He's humming Dobbs Christian Watson. They got three tight ends
like five different players have multiple touchdown receptions. Nobody else
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in the NFL saying that, and they lead the NFL
with fifty four what they call big plays. So again
this week I have them probably a spot too low,
but they're a young team and can be a tad
inconsistent half to half. But I have them at seven
number six, if Joe Mixon plays, I think the Texans
are a handful. Their only loss came on the road
(04:26):
to the Vikings. They had a stinker. Everybody gets a stinker.
Everybody but the Chiefs gives you a stinker. Joe Mixon
changes CJ. Stroud Nico Collins out. They got to get
him back. The defense with the Miko Ryans is excellent.
I think this team could get to the AFC Championship.
I don't think they're quite mature enough with big game
experience to beat a Kansas City. But if I was
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Kansas City, I wouldn't want to play them. I think
this team's are to good Texan six, number five Niners. Now,
they're not good in the red zone. My belief is
Christian McCaffrey will solve that. But they've led by ten
plus points in five or six games. They are physical,
they're multi dimensional. Because of Shanahan, they all seemingly always
have a lead number two passing offense, number three rushing offense,
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and that's without Christian McCaffrey. Also, Brock Kurdy has been
tremendous on third down this year. You know how much
that means to me. I think the great quarterbacks are
third down quarterbacks. My home's the best in a long time.
I have San Francisco at five, number four, Ravens at four,
number one total offense, number one rushing offense. Lamar Jackson
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is now twenty two and one against the NFC. I
worry about their pass defense, and this is going to
be the big issue with this team is they're going
to play down even the games they play well and lead.
I worry about them late in games. But you know,
I love me Lamar Jackson and Baltimore. I have him
at four, number three, But I like that old line
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with Detroit that I think can control the clock and
keep their secondary, which is a liability off the field.
Now they got to figure out what to do with
Hutchison's loss Max Crosby. I mean, the Raiders just gave
out DeVante Adams. Do you give away Max Crosby and
you get more picks? They have an excellent running back duo,
best offensive line. But the schedule gets tough. Now three
(06:17):
of the next four games Vikings, Packers, Texans. There's gonna
be a couple l's here potentially for the Lions. Number
two Vikings off of Bye, They're gonna beat Detroit. That's
my guess. One of my picks of the week off
of by this team's gonna beat Detroit. Detroit's off a
huge win, feeling themselves only undefeated team in the NFC.
Now again, like Baltimore, my concern is great against the run,
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not great against the pass. I could see this team
going to the playoffs and dominating somebody and leaking oil
on the back end. And that's why I have them
at two, number one Kansas City, eleven straight wins. They're
you know, I still never know what I'm getting. A
wide receiver is Rashi Rice coming back? Juju Smith Schuster
can't set for Xavier Worthies kind of a gadget guy.
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Travis Kelsey can disappear. But best defensive lineman, best defensive coordinator,
best coach, best quarterback, O line is good enough. I think,
you know, I'm just gonna take them, put them here.
I guess they're more vulnerable. I guess, but they get
number one? All right? Nick Wright is now joining me
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live Nick Wright? Anything about that night? I gotta be honest.
A couple of weeks ago, online study said that the
hurt hierarchy had become the sort of default ranking system
in America. That's what the polls say. What do you
make of mind?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yet, listen of all the traditional some would call it
archaic power ranking systems, yours is the best.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Everyone agrees.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now you want a true tiers system with a committee
and names they people know where to go to. What
for the old school power rankings is the best? I
would third straight week. I don't have any real issues.
I would have the Bears in there in place of
the Falcons. But that's probably a nine to eleven, right,
(08:12):
That's what I figured you were gonna say, like that
nine ten eleven the Bucks like it was two thursdays ago,
But it really looked like the Bucks had that Falcons
game one, yep, and then they squandered it at the end.
The Bucks could be sitting here at five and one,
and I mean, don't look now, but MVP.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Could be coming to an awards ceremony near you. He's
been awesome, and Todd Bowles deserves credit, and so the
Bucks are a real team. I agree with the reason
I said flip the Falcons and the Bears is just
because of those same concerns about the Falcons defense that
you alluded to. But yeah, otherwise, I think this really
(08:55):
solid power or heard hierarchy once again.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, so last night I watched the Jets. What do
you know? They fire Sala, their best coach on the staff,
and their defense isn't as good. But they got rid
of Hackett, which Sala wanted to, and their offense ran
motion and ran the ball. So if Sala could have
just stayed and they moved or demoted Hackett, I think
they could win the game. Last night. I don't think
they were as good defensively. So before we get to
(09:18):
the Devonte Adams, I broke this down earlier. There were
four big plays in the second half of this game,
and the Bills made all of them. Taylor Rapp a
couple of breakups, the amazing interception by Tarron Johnson, which
is an all time play, and then Josh Allen on
third and four running for it doing them the Holmes.
I think he might have just decided I'm gonna run
for it, and those were the four big plays. But
(09:39):
I did come out of that thinking it's a grown
up offense. They face a lot of mediocre quarterbacks coming up.
I don't think the sky is falling at two, and
am I nuts?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
No, you're nuts.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
You're nuts there listen twenty four days ago, Aaron Rodgers
the media. The next step for us is to learn
expect to win and learn to dominate. Since then, they
lost to Bo Nicks and the Broncos and were held
in single digits. Roger they lost, They were down seventeen
(10:15):
to nothing, lost to the Vikings, fired their coach, blew
a game to Buffalo, Panic traded for Devonte Adams. This
is a bad team. And I saw you know colleagues
that I respect saying, oh, today is the fork in
the road moment for the Jets, either the beginning of
the end or the end of the beginning. No, it's
(10:35):
not Game thirty two for the Washington Wizards when they
lose to the Hawks is not a fork in the
road moment of the franchise. It's just the franchise continuing
to be the franchise. I'm forty years old, Colin. There
have been few truisms in my life in sports.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
One of them is this.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
The Jets have always been the Jets. They've been poorly run,
they have bad ownership, they don't they're not forward thinking.
I had to listen to people all off season, lecture
me about how great their weapons are. And now you've
got the quarterback publicly throwing under the bus, Mike Williams,
who they're going to end up trading I would assume
(11:14):
for ten cents on the dollar because he's not on
the same page as Rogers. And now DeVante's there and
they're gonna act like that's the problem. The problem with
the Jets, Colin is very, very simple. There are two things. First,
one is this, if the ball is not out within
two seconds, they are cooked. Because Rogers, when it comes
out quick, it looks good, it looks sharp, they look
(11:35):
they're on time. But he can't move and the line
for the sixth straight year, can't hold up. The other
problem is this, and this is a real indictment because
Rogers yesterday publicly throwing Mike Williams under the bus. Yeah,
was such an embarrassing moment. He is the anti Patrick Mahomes.
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You give Patrick Mahomes the ball with a chance to
win the game, you trust he is going to go
win the game.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
And after the game, if.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
They don't win, no matter how outrageous it sounds, he's
going to say, that's my fault.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That was on me.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I should have handed the ball to NBS Rogers three
weeks ago. Chance to beat the Broncos. Ball in his hands.
They get fourteen yards of offense in terrible weather, put
the kicker in a rough Spoty misses the kick last week,
down six, chance to win the game. Ball in his hands,
interception throwing to Mike Williams. Last night, ball in his hands,
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down three, chance to win the game. Interception thrown to
Mike Williams. Then a postgame press conference where he all
but diagrams the all twenty two, explaining.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
How not my fault at all. You're not gonna win
that way.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
They're good, they don't have enough talent, the defense isn't
good enough. They're not a receiver away. So no, I
do think you're crazy. They're a two win team that
is supposed to be a two win team.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, Well they've beaten Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis, so
you are what your record is and who you've beaten at.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, congrats, guys, congrats, you've beaten the two of the
only teams in the league worse than you, and you're
gonna lose to the Steelers. You're gonna beat the Patriots,
and then they're gonna be like, well at three and.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Five, is it over?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Then you're gonna lose to the Texans, and we're gonna
have to listen Aaron Rodgers say to us, I've been
in this position before.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
What did I do?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Then we reeled off all those victories. He's not the
same player. They're not a good team, They're not a
good franchise. He's not the same player.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So I want to talk about Dallas. I have said before,
I have comped them with the Lakers, which is two insular,
too many friends of family in the building. As NFL
and NBA have gotten global and smarter and broader, the
Cowboys are the Jones family and the Lakers are the
bust family. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
You got to bring the best of the best globally
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into your organization. You got to be the Dodger, so
you gotta be Kansas City. You got to bring outside influences,
different spags, read people from different organizations, and so I
look at the Cowboys loss and Jerry this morning is ripping.
He's went on local media on a radio show and
he's ripping the host it's a circus there, and I'm like,
if Jarah doesn't realize Jara's the problem, nothing changes. What
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do you think the rest of the year looks like
for this franchise and going forward?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, listen, I was more bullish on Dallas than I
think most going into the year, and part of that
was because I was so pessimistic of Philly and I
didn't see Washington popping like this. So I'm like, well,
they're going to win the division because they win twelve
games every year, even this year. If they don't win twelve,
they can win ten or eleven. And I thought the
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lack of a running game concern was a little overwrought.
I thought the run defense concern.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Was a little overwrought.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's like, there'll be a little worse they were last
year and win ten or eleven games. Right now, the
things that were concerns going into the season have become
not just concerns but massive problems. They can't run the ball,
which is impacting Dak Prescott. He's becoming more turnover prone
again because defenses no. All you can do to Hurtius
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is throw the ball and the defense. Four straight games
of getting absolutely rolled at home is an institutional problem.
They have allowed more points in four consecutive home games
than any team in fifty years in the NFL. Just
a mortifying spot considering prior to that playoff game Colin,
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the Cowboys had won sixteen straight home games. Now they've
lost four straight and they just get rolled in the
first half of all of them. I still think, because
of Dak and CD and Michael will come back that
they are going to be a respectable team the second
half of the year, but they clearly have major structural problems,
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and Jerry's total refusal this offseason to go spend money
seems like it has put a very hard ceiling on
this team. If you remember, in the off season, I
postulated he wasn't spending money because he was unsure about Dak.
This was going to be a proven year for Dak,
and he wanted to see what he could do with
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less talented guys before he went out and paid him.
And that made sense to me until days before the season.
He just paid Dak anyway, so they're locked into him.
So I don't know what they're doing, but I don't
think it's a good plan in any direction.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So Nick Seriani, it was shocking to me. Can you
imagine Bill Belichick the late Bill Walsh jousting with fans.
I said, it's like a breakup that's about to happen
and one of the people in the relationship starts getting kooky,
the shaved head jousting with fans. A lot of people
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are positive with the Eagles. I think he's cooked here.
I think it's over.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, you said, can you imagine Bill Belichick? Can Colin
you run a business in this scenario, your Jeffrey LORII
and Logan at the volume is Nick Sirianni. Can you
imagine if after a rough six months or so, Logan
comes to you and is like, I need a week off,
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I need to reset, and you're like, okay, no problem,
and his first day back he shows up with a
shaved head is terrible. That day once again, it gets
in the YouTube chat, starts streaming at people, and then
when you say we need to have a zoom to
discuss what happened to her, he shows up with his
kids on his lap, so.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You can't yell at him.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
That's what Sirianni did.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, you wouldn't allow that to happen at a car dealership,
much less than Philadelphia Eagles, and American history is very
consistent in one thing. The spontaneous showed up having shaved
your head is not a sign things are going great
as my like it doesn't. Nobody on a winning streak
is like, you know what, I'm gonna shave my head
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and shock everyone and then yell at the customers. The
guy's out of his depth. He's always been out of
his depth. They were able to cover up for it.
And there have been ninety two wins in the NFL
this year. Where would you rank that victory over the
low begone Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Browns eighty ninety ninetieth.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
That is not something you celebrate about. And then the
other part that I found noteworthy was this after the game,
with his kids on his lap as shields from the media,
he was like, oh, yeah, players told me to do it.
I gotta get back to being myself. I gotta be fiery.
That was Sunday Monday or that yeah Monday yesterday, started
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his press conference. I'm very sorry. He turns out, maybe
my boss didn't love the old screaming at the customer's thing,
and I maybe shouldn't have done that. I mean, we
know where this train is ending where this is, and
to me at this point, it's all it's just inevitable.
He's obviously not going to be their head coach next year,
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and I think that they are worse than their three
and two records suggests.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
By the way, ninety seconds the two minutes left, Davonte Adams,
let's circle back to it. I thought it was so
telling that immediately the Jets lost and he called out
Mike Williams. There's always now. The problem is you can't
blame Sola or Nett Hackett, so it's Mike Williams. Do
you think Devonte Adams? You don't think they't he'll make
them better at all?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Well, no, I think he'll make them marginally better. But
I don't think the Jets are as sooned to be
thirty two year old wide receiver coming off a hamstring
injury away, Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I think that the defense is not as good as
people thought it was going to be. The pass rush
is the defensive front was supposed to be excellent, it's
been average. The secondary is excellent, but now it's banged up.
The offensive line was supposed to be good, it's been
average at best. Rogers I Colin. Have youer at some
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point producers do this. Look at post MVP Aaron Rodgers
numbers per game in production with his last year in
Green Bay and this year in New York, and compare
it to Derek Carr in the same timeframe. They're identical.
Everyone is acting like, Okay, the Jets are this average
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team with average coaching, but they've got this star quarterback. No,
they are a below average team with below average coaching
that has a below average, aging, curmudgeonly quarterback who will
take none of the blame, who will always let you
know whose fault it actually was, and is increasingly immobile.
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And if he doesn't get the ball out immediately, if
they get in third and long, they are cooked every time.
Last night, if there was one drug one run that
didn't work, they were done because he wasn't gonna be
able to get the ball out immediately. So do I
think DeVante Adams will help a little bit?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I do.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Do I think that is enough to turn the Jets,
who look like a six win team and do more
than a seven win team?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
The DeVante Adams trade is noteworthy to me because it
means a team like the Bills or the Ravens, who
are actual contenders.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Won't be getting him. Not because the Jets.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Who are about to fire everyone and have the quarterback
retire at the end of the year and start over again.
Because again I remind America they're the Jets. No, I
don't think he moves the needle for them significantly.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
First things first, Nick right, as always, fire today, Great
seeing you buddy, See you buddy, all right, Nick Right, Yeah,
I'm taking a little more positive spin. But there is
a level of dysfunction. You're not going to take an
interim coach into the playoffs and beat a you know,
and beat a Mike Tomlin generally, or a or an
Andy Reider, a John Harbaugh, a Demico Ryans, or a
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Jim Harbaugh. I just I think the minute you did that,
there's a reason coordinators are coordinators, And I think taking
over for your boss in any industry is fraught with issues.
And I thought the defense last night, prime example, Saula
is out, the coordinator moved to the coach, and the
defense was leaky last night. I just think that's what
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Speaker 1 (22:56):
By the way, just read this story. Jordan Schultz sent
this to me. Fox NFL insider Mike Williams, the Jets
wide receiver who Aaron Rodgers called out last night, is
now available for a trade. Aaron clearly is running the franchise.
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Jmack with the.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
News, this is the herdline news.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I had to look at um. Mike Williams ten catches
on the season through six games.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, thank you, Mike Williams. Is not why they're losing games. Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Maybe I'll go back to send the Chargers the first
thing I thought they could use.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The dude perfect.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
All right, Colin, let's get started. Let's go back to
the Jets. Obviously, it's been a wild two weeks. Salah
canned last week and then the lost last night and
then they bring on DeVante Adams. Well of Woody Johnson,
the owner, was asked about the move. Here's what he
said this morning.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You just have to go with your instinct and what's
the best best thing to build a team, build a
winning team, and build a most importantly, build a culture.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Still optimistic that this season is selvage despite Latin's.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Results, sallegeboy, we're gonna chick.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know you can add the words after that, We're
gonna We're gonna do really well.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I you make it away, Howard take it away, let's
hear it.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I think, just like the stock market, when things are
beat up a little, people flee, but Warren Buffett doesn't.
When you know, these are moments everybody Now Pittsburgh four
and two. Now they're benching their quarterback. I'm selling that
stock Jets two and four. They actually have a run game.
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A competent play caller Hassan Reddick could be in the offing,
and DeVante Adams is there, and the schedule gets weak.
No more niners on the schedule, the whole world. When
the whole world moves away, I think the smarter investors
move in. Look at this schedule, time out so now
they got the Steeler with a quarterback change and Drake May.
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They're four and four. Okay, now the schedule gets interesting, Houston,
though you're at home. It's a short week. We have
we have said short weeks generally advantages.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Nico Collins could be back for that game or we'll see.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But by that time, DeVante Adams is absolutely a part
of the ad.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
The ham streamers. I know he's hanging out with Aaron
Rodgers already at the facility. I do want to go
back to what you said though, when everybody's fleeing, So
everybody fleed the Jets after that loss to the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I was all in.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I said Vikings. We got the Vikings in London, and
everybody's like, oh a Jets lose to the Vikings. Statement,
we're both all in on the Bills. Last night, what
happens like this team's finding new waste to lose.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
They are.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's why they're never going to be a super Bowl team.
As the current construct, they're not a super Bowl team.
But are they in the mayor the AFC where the
wild card teams you're babbling are like the colds in theory? Yeah, there,
I think they could be the best.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
When is Aaron Rodgers going to deliver a game winning
drive for the New York Jets? Just give me what.
He's had three chances in the last three weeks. Fair,
he's over for three. Isn't that why you got him?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So the first one Denver, blame the kicker, second one
blame saul A. Third blame Mike Williams. Does Aaron have
a little self awareness to acknowledge I keep pointing the fingers.
Maybe he needs a mirror.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, that's a great call. He calls out Mike Williams
on the route. I mean, I don't know it was
an underthrown, he slip whatever. But at some point Aaron's
got to say, hey, man, is back to back weeks.
I had the chance with the game on the line,
and I failed. He did fail. It's okay to say that.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Well, I thought he played pretty well last night. I
thought my takeaway was Taylor Rap gets a game ball,
he was outstanding, out standing safety, and Taran Johnson with
an Ed Reid level interception. If I was handing out
game balls last night, I'm giving tarn Johnson, Taylor Rap,
and Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
So we can't queue it up here on but that
passed to Mike Williams. If you watch the full play,
somebody put it online. Briest Hall block hit the line
then leaks out Brees wide open in the flat.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Nobody near Breese Hall.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Why live to fight another day? Why are you going
for the hero ball fifty yards down? Like?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
It's just.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
A right all right, let's move on, Colin. Big matchup man,
that next week's like, I mean, we say this every
week is awesome, but Packers Titans is an incredible matchup
featuring two of the league's best quarterbacks. Yeah, well, Houston
has already faced Josh Allen the season, Colin, but with
Jordan Love on the horizon, Here's what Demico Ryan said
(27:34):
about facing mister Love.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Going against Jordan Love this week will be the best
quarterback we've seen this year. So it'll be a really,
really tough matchup a really good team. Green Bay has
done a great job this year. It's just you know,
they're explosive on offense and they pose a lot of challenges,
not only with Love, but guys, he's getting the ball to.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, you believe he.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Just forgot They saw Alan two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Ors oh i think Jordan Love right now is I'm
not talking career resume. I think Jordan Love is every
bit Josh Allen in the moment now, and I think
Josh Allen is going to go historically as a better quarterback.
But Jordan Love is playing at an incredible level with
a bunch of kids. So Jordan Love right now is
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absolutely a top five quarterback.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
We usually do the tier where we have Mahomes and
Alan and Lamorrow and Lamar. Those four are above.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm saying I think he is encroaching very quickly on
the Lamar Jackson group.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I think Love is better than brock Party right now.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yes, Bigger, better arm better athlete. Absolutely hid. I can
admit when I'm wrong. I thought for three years I
joke that we had more footage of Bigfoot than Jordan Love.
It was like the Packers were suppressing video. And then
the first four games he played, I thought it was awful.
Matt Lafleur's and I this guy in the league would
go to the podium and yell at it.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It was like the first half of last season.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But by the end of the year it's like whoa whoa,
whoa wo And that Dallas game whatever light switch came on, like,
oh no, we got a great quarterback here.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I just I'm gonna preach a first of all I did.
This was the first game I bet this week. But
I would just preach a little bit of caution. Okay,
we're cooking the Cardinals who have one of the worst defenses. Okay,
Jane and Daniels, what ads?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
What about when he cooked the Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
What about them? Who is it cooking the Cowboys these days?
I mean, look at Jared Goffs the game you can
be Derek Carr lit them up.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
My wife says that sometimes I get into stuff all
in and get a little crazy. Okay, Okay, hey, if
that's my fault loving America, I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's like me with certain kiddies like Halloween.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I'm literally I'm on a perpetual bag of Skittles every
day now, sugar High Crash. You know, I have my moments, but.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
You know I've been here eight years. Yeah, like the
first three years they would say, Jason, what would you
like for lunch? And a bag of Skittles would be
included in my lunch every day.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
They don't even ask anymore. That's what I have for
breakfast skittles? What what?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
What? What's your favorite flavor?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Though?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
What color that?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
None of them have flavors, They're just sugar. They're my
favorite sugar.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
The yellow skittles. I don't like them.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Final story, Uh, Lamar Jackson and Jade and Daniels both
really good in the first head to head meeting, combining
for over six hundred and fifty yards three touchdowns. Despite
the Ravens pulling off the win. Lamar gave credit to
Jadon Daniels incredible play so far.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Are you motivated by that? By all the hype about
Jadon Daniels coming into this building. I believe he deserves
all the ipe's get. You know, he played a tremendous
game right there. They just came up short. He's been
proving it. You know, it's rookie seeon first his game.
See he's been kind of amazing. Yeah, he's the real deal.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
So this is interesting. Our staff here pulled some odds
to win Offensive Rookie of the Year. Jade Daniels minus
one ninety five so one.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Hundred dollars audience, Well, that means.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You have to bet one hundred ninety five dollars to
win one hundred. Caleb Williams is plus money one sixty five.
If you do this fun experiment where you look at
the schedules, Washington's schedule gets much tougher. Yes, now I
know first impressions. Everybody loves Daniels. He's been outstanding. After
they destroy Carolina this week they go head to head.
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Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams column, that's a great matchup
in two weeks. And I'm not gonna lie to you.
This New York Giants front is pretty good. We know
Pittsburgh gets after it. Daniels has two more games against Pittsburgh.
I think there's some value on Caleb Williams to win offense.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But also his division is so good and the defenses
he's gonna be in shootouts even if he's getting beat.
Teams are gonna be playing prevan because everybody Minnesota, Green Bay,
Detroit can score. So even if Caleb's in a losing effort,
he's gonna be sitting there playing catch up against prevent defenses.
That's a track meet division. Everybody can score. So now
I think I think, listen, the best thing is the NFC.
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AFC did this for years. NFC finally landed two star quarterbacks,
not just for Fox, but Chicago and Washington are massive markets.
We've been sitting here looking around, you know, you know
we're trying, you know, as Fox CBS is look at AFC,
at Fox. We want these Washingtons in these Atlantas and Dallas,
New York. You want them to It can't all be
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Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
You know some of the great quarterbacks in the NFC.
You got Jalen Hurts, Dak Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams GoF.
I mean, obviously brock Perty the NFC is low. If
you ranked the ten quarterbacks in the NFC, like, does
Kirk Cousins even make the top ten?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I don't know that's listen Gino smith Man, He's oh,
come on, no, stop stop Kyler Murray your boy. Top
ten quarterbacks in the NFC. Yeah, I mean listen to
Okay Stafford GoF Party Stafford GoF, Kirk Cousins, Baker Mayfield,
Sam Darnold, Jordan Love. I'm not doing order. I'm at six.
(33:05):
Rock Purdy is seven. Talen Hurts, I got my doubts.
I don't know I like him, but he's a turnover machine.
I'm gonna just say if Jalen hurt Jayden, I mean again,
I didn't even put Bye by the way I named him.
I didn't even put Caleb or Jayden in yet.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Baker Mayfield, Oh yeah, he's in there. NFC is stacked
at quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
No, no, no, they went through about a three year drought.
They're back. I mean that's when I say, with Dak, well,
where is Dak if you could choose today quarterbacks. Now
that Jayden and Caleb of verride, Jordan loves money, Gof's
next to mahomes and yards and touchdowns. Baker's on fire,
Suddenly you think, oh we got Dak. Yeah. The giants
in Washington aren't layups anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
It's almost like Dak's runner up for MVP last year
or third place.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And that's as good as it's gonna get a little
bit of boodle, right.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
A little And I think Dallas bought it hook line
and sinker.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yep. What happens when the owners, the GM is the
promoter is the talks.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
He's gonna fire you for say that.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
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Speaker 3 (34:05):
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Speaker 5 (34:17):
It's a primetime showdown on Fox College Football Friday as
Heisman contender Dylan Gabriel lead second ranked Oregon against Purdue.
It all kicks off Friday night at eight eastern.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Now be careful. Oregon played a highly emotional game. Now
they go on the road. The weather's going to be cold,
uncomfortable for.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
New They call Purdue per don't for I'm just saying,
I mean, they're bad this year.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Notre Dame hung short week.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
You're right, it's a bad spot.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
It's a bad spot for Oregon. Bad spot, a lot
of talent. They got a lot of talent. Well, anybody
out west knows they've been recruiting and buying good players,
and not all of it's that. I mean, they had
a good Mario christaball before the NIL opened up. He
was a great recruiter. So Oregon recruits the West Coast
honestly better than anybody else in the West Coast, including
(35:09):
the LA schools. They recruit LA better than LA schools
recruit LA. Kind of a problem. So Jerry Jones very
proud guy. He does a radio hit. So what Jerry
Jones does after Cowboy games, he walks down the hallway,
the cameras are all set up, and Jerry goes in
without the tie suit, you know, and he talks after
(35:30):
games and he's a little uh, he's a little you know,
terse after the game. And then Monday or Tuesday he'll
go on to a radio hit on was such one
oh three point five in Dallas or maybe it's one
oh five point three, it's one of those. And he
got into it for about fifteen twenty minutes with the
(35:51):
hosts this morning, and here's a sample of it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
You're not going to figure out it's what the team
is doing right or wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You don't really think.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
You go sit there with a microphone and tell me
all of the things that I've done wrong and without
going over the light, and we can spend a lot
of time going over digging on the value on the
fit piest things I've ever done that anybody has ever
had lized is myther Cowboy. It was an idiot that
(36:22):
did that. So idiot things can turn into good definition
smart things can turn into bad defeat.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's true, but uh, the
decision to be GM owner and spokesperson is a bad
one and it's hard to overcome. So that is Uh,
that's what's going on in Dallas this morning. Now what's
going on in New York? As DeVante Adams is a
jet I think I'm a little more positive than Nick
Wright was earlier today that stowed up about forty minutes ago.
(36:53):
I think it's going to be good. I don't wide
receivers who are aging hamstring issues expensive. I don't think
lead you to the promised land. I think they can help.
I think, you know, I think an old veteran receiver,
if he's a willing blocker occasional red zone target helps.
How much it helps, we'll see. I think you know.
(37:15):
I did the Herd hierarchy earlier this hour. I think
this weekend we really came to terms with the really
solid teams in this league, and all of them appear
to have one thing in common. If you look at
the Herd hierarchy, and it's very capable quarterbacks and quarterbacks
(37:36):
that are either in their prime or like Kirk Cousins,
out of it, but are viewed as great leaders. I
mean Mahomes Donald again, Donald in his physical prime, Goff
Lamar Brock, Purty, c J. Stroud, Jordan Love, Josh Allen, Kirk,
Cousins and Mayfield. Mayfield and Sam Darnold have bounced around,
(37:58):
but they're still at the tail end of their prime
and their first round picks for a reason. What you
don't have in this list is forty year old quarterback
who's prickly indifficult trying to save a wobbly franchise. And
I think that's a reality with Aaron Rodgers. People can
defend him, but three straight games Denver, Minnesota and now Buffalo,
he had the ball with a chance to win it
(38:19):
and he couldn't. And you can't. You know, you can
blame Mike Williams, but Garrett Wilson's a stud. Breese Hall
was good last night. You can blame the kicker. I
just think Buffalo made good plays when it mattered most.
That was my takeaway in the game is that Buffalo
made three or four huge plays. Taylor Rap made two
huge plays for the Buffalo Bills to break up completions,
(38:42):
and then Tehran Johnson had absolutely I mean, we always
people in my business, we tend to veer toward the negative.
Let's be honest between Taylor Rapp and Tarn Johnson. I mean,
this is a huge, huge interception by Tehran Fooled. Watch
him curl around. That's an incredible play. That's a once
(39:03):
a year play by a safety. That's just a good
football team. Beat your good player. And then Josh Allen
running for a first down with so Mahomes. It's a
big third down. It looks like he just called his
own number and he's just faster than your defensive end
or outside linebacker. We can be negative here, but I mean,
Josh Allen, the safety, they just made plays. The Jets
(39:25):
didn't make those plays, So you know whether we want
to be negative on this stuff. And I understand that
gets more clicks and it's better for your algorithms on YouTube. Buffalo,
like Kansas City in a big spot, made really not
good great place. Those two Taylor rap safety hits, those
were ball Those were ball jarring hits. One was a touchdown,
(39:47):
one was a first down. If the second one, if
they get a first down there on second and sixteen,
they reset the downs. There's two minutes left. The Jets
can milk the clock. They can toy they can. I
mean they can on fourth down. It's four down territory.
If they want to play for the win, they can.
If they want to play for overtime, they can. So
those were gigantic plays by very good players and McDermott's defense.
(40:12):
No I bang on defensive coaches, but that's secondary for Buffalo.
Tip of the cap, big plays in big moments. J
Mac Mike Williams. It's been reported by Jordan Schultz, the
receiver who either slipped or ran the wrong route is
on the trade market for the Jets. That's been reported Officially,
(40:34):
Aaron Rodgers runs the Jets.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
You remember the when they announced that the Jets got
Mike Williams. We were like excited. We're like, oh, Mike Williams,
the downfield threat, big body guy, throw it up in
the end zone. He hasn't been that guy. Injuries kind
of ruined what was the promising career for Williams. He's
a talented player.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Just don't be surprised at the Chargers. I mean, Lad
mcconkey's got a concussion.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Quentin Johnson turned in ankle last week.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
It's not I mean he liked playing here. Our three
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