Joe and Jada - Pete Rock on CL Smooth split, Nas & 'Illmatic,' 50 Cent & G.O.A.T. hip hop producers - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
How many people would love to hear like a Peak
rock produced Locks album.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
All I need is one piekun of you is pull up?
What up y'all?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
This is Joe Cracked the Dawn, Your Boy, Jenda Master, Joe.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
And Jena show things is changing in life. Every show legendary,
every show iconic.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Shout out to eighteen hundred to Killer eighteen hundred. You
know we do it different over here. When you think
of today's guests, you think.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Of hip hop. You ain't never lie capital letters iced
out here.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
You think of from the basement some of the craziest
records you're to ever.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Land on your ear drums came out of his basement. Uh.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
You think of rest in Peace head, you know what
I mean. You think of Mount Vernon, money yarning on
the map. Because you think of you just think of
great production. You think of a timeless legacy, one of
the first producers, slash DJs, slash mcs that.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Have bars that arguably better than the best bars run
the song. Yeah, you know what I mean, And that's
hard to have.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Back then, from way back, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado,
make some noise from my brother pig Rock.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Man, it's such an honor to be here, so appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I support y'all. I'm on a grand sometimes I will
post y'alls.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
You repost anything with the Yankees and Nicks.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
You argue with anybody that could be from Yugoslavia any
time anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Says anything about that mix.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
When I go to the comments, SEC see I see Pall,
he's like you.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
He's going crazy or easy. He's defended the Niggles.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
They don't want to see us. They don't want to
see us.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Why do you think they hate New York so much?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Because we do it?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So we started a lot here, from fashion to music
to slang. Everything you could imagine. You know what I'm saying,
started in New York.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
They don't want us to win.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Man, I would be jealous too if I was from
out of town.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
How about they say y'all, they say we got an accent,
like we had it's our accent, and we do got
an accent.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Baby peep Rock.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
First of all, let me ask you a questions because
you just getting mine threading man questions. Now, I'm all right,
I'm gonna let you take the lead. I got I
gotta ask you this one.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I'm coming on here to keep the beam with everything.
If y'all want to ask me whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's that's baby, watch it me.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
I ain't got no controversy for people.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Don't have to be controversy.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't got all that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
But what I wanted to ask you, Pete bot right,
because it's important to me. I'm just asking you. You
could tell me yes, no whatever. Do you feel the
love and the influence I have from Heavy D? Because
you know, you watch everything on the ground, you watch everything.
I try to salute him to the hiat he opened

(03:27):
the door.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I used to dance like every ding man when I
was young.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Hopefully we could get a clip of that, Jamie, you're
fine with dragon question.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
I know how much you love Heavy D. Is a
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Do you feel like fat Joe try to give it
up to Heavy D as much as he can.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, Yes, I feel like he opened the door for
like the way he met you know what I'm saying,
Like he opened the door market D. I used to
always say that they looked like Prince Markey D from
the Fabris And then once people get inspired.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
You know, it just multiplies.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Bro Like everyone just starts picking up the inspiration, not
even they don't even they can't even help it at times.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Because I got a guilt.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Right now that I'm talking to you, I realized I
got a guilt because Heavy D not only was my idol,
but he became a good friend of mine, fly to Miami,
hang out with us. But I never grabbed his shoulder,
looked him in his eyes and say, Yo, I'm here
because of you. He inspired me on that level. It
wasn't for you, I would have never believed that whatever

(04:36):
I'm doing is capable. Yeah, and so that's why every
chance I get and I reminisce I have, I post
them this and that. But I'm kind of mad at myself.
Maybe it was the error we was in where everybody
had to act tough, too cool to tell him that
a lot of people ain't tell him that a lot
of people ain't tell them that holding their hand.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
In the dark and walking you in this business.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Man, I'm saying, I know that he Remember he helped
rough riders figure out how.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
To navigate their way in the game. He told them
what to do with acts.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
I remember us going to have his garage, him on
the punching bag as young locks, giving us words of
encouragement and telling us what you know the dudes and
don'ts to look out for in the industry.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
So I appreciate its.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Time on earth and knowledge and you know what I
mean everything he did for the culture and for me
personally and for the locks.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And so imagine being under that every day, you know
what I'm saying. So I came out of that.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
You got Eddie f What was the other dude, the
heavy d.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
And the boys.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Trouble t Roy, Well, Trouble.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
T Roy is a real guy. Let me salute him now.
You know he's the one that moved down to Miami
and all that. Right, No, that's she Wis she Whizzed.
Trouble t Roy Recipe Gee Whiz is a real dude.
He know what I'm talking about. And you know he's
a solid guy, cut from the cloth. Then you got

(06:10):
your man. You know, I try to get your both
at the thirty year anniversary. See yaw smooth.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
People don't know what he's talking about. You can't side relationships.
Well you know what I did, hold on, don't.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
I don't even know what's going on this month?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
This much you have a side federal drug talk with him.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Wan No, I'm saying, see how smooth, right, I try
to get Pete Rock and see how smooth at the joint.
Y'all came out at the Lean Back twenty yeth anniversary
in the Apollo and Peterbrock said, no way, I forgot.
How did that fall apart? And is it to the death?

Speaker 8 (06:57):
Like hm?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know in this business, bro, like when you come
across different personalities but you match foot one talent wise,
but like physically and mentally, it don't work. You know,
in the very beginning it works, but once you don't
get to really know each other, the real that comes
out and it stirs up a bad character and me

(07:23):
that I don't want to come out. At first, I
was mad at the fact that I had to deal
with somebody of this stature who's very different from me.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
What would you say?

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Is this false though? Jelly jealous jealousy so bad? It's
a bad phys bro.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
He's a he's a rapper, you're the DJ, he's anything, yeah,
but you're producing to be so you say he was
jealous of your own success.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I seen he has that, yeah, and that don't work
for grown people when you're growing into a man that
don't work no more when.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
We get older, like you just just be like, come on.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Man, I'm like that a lot.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I think that's how I maybe like, I ain't catch
a heart attack God forbid or stroke yet me cats,
I just lay off that when it does crazy too.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, two, you.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Got a spot full of ship.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well for God. But I think.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
But I don't think I could.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
People could be. I don't want to look you might
lose fans.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
I don't want to look like a crackhead. I don't
want to look out of here and go you'll go
to twenty.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I don't want to look sick and see the reasons
A little see.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Who was very talented to me that a lot of
people used to not get what he used to say,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Like, but he got a great voice. He could rap.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I wish we never broke up. I wish we
could have still been together. I wish he was a
certainty way, you know, But sometimes it just happens like that.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You can't go wrong, man.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Because it's like rumors like Naughty by Nature, they do
shows that they don't even talk to each other.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
They stay in. I wish I could do that. Though
I wish I could do that, you can't even do that.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
For the best kind of like awk with though I can't.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
How could you have chemistry on stage then when it's
over you go your separate corners and that kind of
like make shit feel for me.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I don't know about it.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I guess I got local. For the most part. I
got lucky because I'm a solo artist.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
I get it. This guy's I was down with that.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I would never ever, I don't give a fuck of
a billionaire, billionaire Mexican guy come and said, I let
Itetic Squad, I give you one.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Hundred million for this album.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I'll be like, nah, Papa, Nah, I'm not fucking with
these guys.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
And you gotta understand. I look at this whole game different.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm born in poverty, I'm born in bronx Levenon Hospital.
All the odds against me. I got shot at every day,
did everything in the world. In the world, there's anybody
who ever helped me. Is that I'm inde nord Finess
digging in the crates. Besides THEMB nobody ever helped me
or gave me a boost. I go and I get
myself in a situation where I could sign people and

(10:09):
give them half a million million dollars.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
That use all my juice.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
The way we get Big Pun to do the song
with Jodahs singer. He never met Jodah singer Keith All Massenberg.
Kadar is the man. I met Key Doll through his
brother from Stetsi son, so I'm cool with Daddyo with
Daddy O introduces me to Key Doll. So when we
want to make this record for Pun, I call Key

(10:37):
Doll and then Daddy O coach signs. Try that shout
out to Daddy Yo, and Joe shows up in the
studio does the song. He never even met Big Pun
before that. So you overhear jostling these moves and doing
everything for everybody, And then you get artists who somehow
you make it bigg and they start thinking they bigger

(10:58):
than you, and they start talking gonna you crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's so I understand how some things.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Can't be repaired because people step out of line to
a point of where you just like a fuck.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
That is going to there's no one on your side
to say, yocho, fuck out, bro chill man.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Every kid should have a logical uncle that's in this game.
Any young kid, I don't care if he's worth two
hundred million the twenty minu he's hot. He needs an
UNC that could tell him your chill before they touched
the frying pan. Those people you tell that they touched
the shit.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
In He can't told you to live their roots. Yeah,
you can't treat people like that. Can't talk to me,
especially your guy. Not not your guy. Let me ask
you a questions. Then and then and then then I
had a Bronco with the biggest sound system. He said,
it felt like a Jamaican party. The window open.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I drove up and down one sixty with goofy news
mother in lawd I might have drove ten thousand times.
This was going to the bottom of the heel, making
you turn to the top to the heel. I don't
even think I heard a ball. All I heard was
then and then to me.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
In fact, Joe's list, that might be the greatest hip
hop beat of all time.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's your greatest sentimental hip hop record.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
It's the greatest sentimental hip hop record in hip hop.
I could agree with that.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
What I'm talking about is the beat, right and the
lyrics is out of control.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
When I heard that beat, it was almost ancestry turnd
them horns.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I was like, let's play it, let's hear it, let's
crack that ship right now. Oh, we're gonna hurt when
we talk about music we play. Tell Rich called Jeff
from we winded and tell them we were shooting this

(13:04):
toe some eighteen hundred to this classic Jose is Jose legs.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
See that's it for me, your feet, let me get
let me get that that cop right there, you drink
out of it.

Speaker 9 (13:27):
Oh God, I remember this for rous spell and shall
I say think back twenty two years ago to keep
it or attracted with her? Put my child on the
eighth of October my toes when my granddaddy came.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
So bro's count all the figures and the toes. Now,
I suppose you all the boy girls eighteen years younger
than my mama.

Speaker 9 (13:49):
You thought I rarely got beetings with the girl loved
trauma and single parenthood. There ross stood by the time
she was twenty one and had another one. This one
is a girl right let's name of damn Saint Bama.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
But the first pleasing joke here responsible.

Speaker 9 (14:03):
Claim not thinking Papa said, chill, but the brother Keith
would get until he roll down me.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
What's here around your high on your side while the
baby make a slide. Omama got to watch the game.
The youngest the five kids hunting here. It is after
ten years without no scouts.

Speaker 9 (14:18):
Mama's getting married in the house or listen positive pot
a negative, put the woman a master mother Queen's rising
the chapter think yat boom, tell.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You what I'm gonna do when they reminis silver you
my god, timeless clashing.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
If playing this, you just feel good about yourself, no
matter what's going on, no matter where you are, no
matter I feel like.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
A great summer. You feel pulif where mountain the comb head?

Speaker 9 (14:48):
When I take back and recall a man off the
family tree right hand, Papa, doc, go see look me
from a boy to one man.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Some one always had a parma withore my biological taking
care of what is to.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
I've got a bad take upbout them Clock and Pops live,
but you get them a say that it's like this
brou flock kids in twenty one believe he.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Got a right to us here you Wila chick.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
The scene with the Portuguese lover at the age of fourteen,
the same age front page.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
No fuss, but I've bet your old your nose. They
live longer than us. I've never been seen now because
that's where you're born. For give a minute, your.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Danny's gone, not nor sleep too, but jazz too.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I can hear his head and the next room I
get the bill old with Nope. I don't think them
for this man, the cussy of it.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
On the Verbados, you're telling me how to raise my boy.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
You're less knees taking over, I said, pop, maybe when
you're older. We left all night about the hook.

Speaker 9 (15:37):
That's at the parties, the old man standing yelling.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Good God, Almighty, use your kind of big SIPs of
the brutal.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's so lovely and it sells.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
It's beautiful coming.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
In something like this.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, come on, I remember this soon. You'll never forget this.

Speaker 9 (16:06):
To day's a way back, so many being witnessed, the fitness,
and I think the first letter I.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Had of each word in this joint. Listen close. As
I proved my point, he took the whole Why how
did you? And now I'm meet in front of the
big blue fighting in the street, Big lou.

Speaker 10 (16:21):
I said to keep this to your a shot in
any weather.

Speaker 11 (16:25):
Us.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
My grandma Pim holds the family together us. My uncle
Doc's the greatest, better yet the ladies.

Speaker 9 (16:30):
But talking about the call ladies, joy Yes, yes, like
my aunt Joyce til he.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Rock hit me and respect you where they remind this
over you. Listen, listen, just listen. Jesus DJ, we gotta
let Jay DJ was there. This got call and that's
the word is bos. I'm not playing.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Everybody just.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Took the one and only never be another. He was
my brother, trouble te Roy. It's like that, y'all.

Speaker 10 (17:13):
They don't stop.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
For ninety two ninety to fuck ray Man Goosebumps.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah, rest in peace, trouble Tea Boyd.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
That was my man. Man that fucking album Man. What
to do for you?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Because you're right here his door, you and y'all and
still if you could go to fucking Mount Burn and
the sweet I.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Went a lot on the tunkle.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
My Eye Jones live right around the corner from Big Look,
So it felt like a win for the town, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
It was a it was doing ship.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
He was already a wind, but then to have his
cousin and his man come out with these songs in
this production. It felt like Westchester and malvernon you's new role.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
We was getting on the map, you know what I mean?
Major Way only man gave me hope. It gave like yo, hi, y'all.
Next I got a chance to do this. They brought
Rue DMC back the King of Rock. What was like
that when they are what was like that call.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Like rest of peace? Jam J?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
That was that was the homie, you know, the one
J J Reid and d M c J shout out
to run two. But D and J were the ones
that suit you need this?

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, he inspired us too, but how would be with that?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Was the everybody was in that video. Everybody was alive still.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
When they called you to make this song? What was
going through your mind?

Speaker 12 (18:51):
Man?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Because you brought the back of the Major Way like
and they sounded good. We got after he talking about this,
I don't think we can do that.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
I don't think nobody could do that right now, twenty
twenty five bring like an o GD like it got the.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Way you fucking crafted the production and they fit for
so many years and from you just knowing about rock boxing.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
All that shit.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And being in fand from being a fan first and
the then you know, trying to impress Russell Senate a
young age.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm eighteen nineteen years old. Boy showed rust I could
do this ship and so after the shut him down
work the remix work, I was getting kind of pulled
myself there, and they gave me a shot. I look
at it as a shot like jam Master Ja showed
up at my mama house knocking on the door. I
opened the doors. Jam Mass Jay almost got a little busy,

(19:48):
you know what I'm saying. Then he was like, Yo,
come on, let's go work on this. We had a
meeting and in the meeting, Russell was looking at me
like you know what I'm saying. And I had to
prove myself. And I started getting down because I was like,
maybe they're my work. And Jay showed up at Krid
was like, let's go next, let's go work on this,
and you know, we started crafting ideas and me said, Yo,

(20:11):
this is the beat pattern I want and I was like, no, what.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
I just hit record and I was like, you do it.
He'd have the B pattern. You did it.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Then I added siks so he did something else and
I just finished it off. So we kind of made
it together. All the sounds came from me, but it
was it was his idea.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Wish. Scott Starts gave me that credit.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Man, just I did lean back Maye ring with I
did all my joints with him, and I swear to God,
I ain't pressed the buttons, but I told him the
sound Yes, Candy Shop, I did it. He denies it.
I had little Kim there like everybody like a snake
my mom Scot stored. But you know, you could tell
him and he could play right, yes, And so I

(20:53):
went for a long job this weekend, right, and all
I heard about thirty times in the world was whose
world is?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
This world is? George?

Speaker 6 (21:04):
This mine is mine is mine? Whose world is? This
world is yours? Whose world is this?

Speaker 8 (21:12):
You just came up with the like actually he did
cola la la la la. You know, he came to
the shout out to large, professor your large.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And then they left Eric Sermon's career.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
They went to cp O George Professor start help Lord Finnett,
who was the captain of all of this, And so
he was like, yo, Pete, I got this, dude.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Then you played me the barbecue thing and I was like, wow,
well into the crib and then comes in and it's
the stands up in stalk and then I popped that
one in and I was about to say all right,
let me go to the next one. He was like, hey,
you Chip, Chip, that's the first time you had to
say so, and he's just like start doing this. I

(21:56):
was like right here and he was like good bye then,
and then he came up with the hook. I gave
him a few minutes. He had that composition book or
whatever I think, and then he was like, yo, I
want you to sing this part. Because I used to
play around on records and be doing that little stupid
stuff on records.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
But he wanted me to sing that part. And he
was like singing like this, and then he started singing, Well,
there's this grill un.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I ain't know what's gonna come out the way it did,
but I said, I'm gonna do my best ridiculous shout
out to the man.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
We got to ask the brother himself. Now, as you know,
I ain't got to tell you. You know, you got
to touch the couch him Jay. They all gonna touch
this couch.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
They confront all they want he ain't buy new college SEMs,
whatever the fuck they want.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
They don't they want to touch that stratusphere of real
hip hop.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
They got to come on it. He's gonna buy new
college seems, whatever the fuck you want. I don't even see.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Look my fingers, my Twitter fingers are getting tired of
hitting jay Z and nods will congratulations If I look
at my last thirty texts like Yo, congratulations dog he
pulled it off.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
God bless beans. A lot coming from you, Joe good Man.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
This like these guys one thing. I'm ready to ball
something from both of them almost ready.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Well you know what with Jada, not to put you
on the spot or nothing. But you know I said,
I ain't chopped liver over here.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
But well you ain't never been chopped lift never We
know that such thing.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
How many people would love to hear like a Peak
Rock produced Locks album.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
All I need is one pete out of you is
pull up, pull us to be so close, Just pull up.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
We got three rooms. Today.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Show is brought to you by presenting sponsor hard Rock Bet.
We've been rolling with the hard Rock Bet all regular
season long, and now Hardrock Bet is here for what
is shaping up to be an incredible playoff run. You
know what I love doing with these big standalone playoff games.
Same game Paulay's lock in one match up at a

(24:22):
time and stack your picks.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Maybe the quarterback throws for two.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Hundred and fifty, the running back hits one hundred, and
the tight end punches.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
In the first touchdown. Hard Rock Bet gives.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
You tons of ways to build your same game Paulay
turning Big game days in the bigger by days.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
And if you miss kickoff, don't worry.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Hard Rock Bet has live in game betting, so you're
never too late to be in the action. Find a winer,
grab that player prop you meant to play, and live
bet between snaps and just a few easy taps. If
you haven't tried your first bet on hard rock Bet,
it's still time for you to get one hundred and
fifty dollars in bonus bets if you win.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Just place a five dollar bet.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
If it hits, you get not only your winnings, but
also an extra one hundred and fifty and bonus bets.
So just because your team may be out of it,
that doesn't mean you have to sit on the sidelines.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
This postseason between Same Game.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Paulay's Live Betting, I Can't miss Welcome offer and new
promos dropping every day. Hard Rock Bet has you covered
all postseason long. That's hard Rock Bet. Download the hard
Rock Bet app and make your first deposit today.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Hard Rock Bet Baby Less Gone payable on bonus bets
not in cash.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida and Florida
offered by the Seminal hard Rock.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Digital LLC and all other states.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Must be twenty one and over and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana,
New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia. The place terms and
conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida called one eight
a admitted and Indiana if someone you know has a
gambling problem and once helped, called one eight hundred and

(26:12):
nine with it gambling problem called one eight hundred gambling.
That's in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Loved that last I liked thank You.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
I loved that last album with comment that thing was.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Hell yeah shout out the comment let the brig Yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Was talking about hip problem the game, but this and that.
When you tap an EMPC shan sample, you know something's coming.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
It can't empty shad the real deal, full wave titles
can't do give a fuck about it.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And we hit them off, take the teeth out, and
it's it's odd.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
I respect him.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
What was he talking about? EMC shad.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
He's wanted his money, he got his minde. He got paid.
I knew you knew to take care of him. He
got but he still went crazy, right you you know
what that is, bro. I paid three times, but the
last ship I put out the Paradise for STD Beach.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
I paid for the.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Sample to the niggas that owned you that I know
the sample.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
You you know.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I tried my best to not be in the EMPC
ship like he don't own it? I would him.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
He start telling me, yo, I own it.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Coming back to twenty twenty eight, this, I said, yo,
cow much like, please let me pay you. Whoever said
they owned it? I paid it like yeah, I mean
I didn't want no beef. I didn't catch no.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I didn't know that was gonna come afterwards. I thought
he was gonna be like yo, because he did a
post where he said, no, the brothers just stand up brothers.
Then the next week he went in on us. So
that's the problem I didn't get, Like, how you gonna
do a poem? Say you a problem?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Man?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Like this podcast ship, I bigged up two, three, four
people that I really love that we all know. It's
like me big enough, Pete Brock. I'm gonna always use
Kick Capri. He's one of them top five DJ's Kick Capri.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
The next thing you're like when you put him back,
man for one d J in the world, what more
you want to be?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
You called him that, yes, whipping in Man, we gotta
discuss the latest effect.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I'm like, yo, I talked to Kick Capri telling that
people right all the time, you gave DJs they flowers
and you put Calen on the red.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Carpet and that's what he got. Man, call him right now.
You told him call it's too rich to even put
with them.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
And we talked about jay Z. You look aby Colosseum too.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
So my thing is, you know, I go around calling
and I'm broke, my nigga, I don't care how much
money I think I got.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
One day I pull out a watch your calek man says,
you'll come upstairs, right.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
I'm like, here we go.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
He opens his state and the seilings. Lord might have
been a hundred watches. Look, I don't care what fat
joy whatever you think. I ain't got DJ CALLI. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
The man got his own airplane, so that's what I
was saying. But up on the number one, he went
bad on me. Two times of felling back from maternity leaguer. Congratulations, brof, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
You gotta hear.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I'm telling you first head, I gave you a segment
because nobody ever been able to leave work for a.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Niece or nephew. No, that's the show how we do it.
Sh it on our set, yop. He gotta be your son, daughter,
twins triplets on my one of up or a nephew.
You gotta be thankful for your coworkers to let you leave.

(29:57):
And congratulations. What's your name?

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Shout out to Lilah, baby, Lilah, your roses baby.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
We like you, no doubt, God bless But I talked
to kick Capri all the time. You kick the priest,
my brother. That's why they understand. I said, yes he is.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
I've seen him at the funeral. I seen him. I
raided his arms funeral. He came up to me.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I said, O, kid, like, you gotta stop. You just
him the man.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I picked him up as the number one DJ in
the worldly. This is me, bro, What do you want
me to do? I'm like, yo, I know they dissed me, man,
I big them up and then they dissed me. And
all I'm trying to do is preserve the culture. Sit
on this couch and big up everybody. That's what I
was taught in the hip hop and hip hop. I
was taught that we're one community.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
We all want community, but this we the fakest community.
Niggaz talk about it.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
No, not a shit eighteen hundred coming because I like
this trick.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
She's talking about the community of hip hop and the
love it's fake people give.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Didn't need to hear from him eight years from the
this and that. You see him in the party of
this action. They said, Joe, let's do it. Let's own effort.
You never heard of him in the.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I risked my life a million times for rappers.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Like I've seen rappers getting ruffled up in the corner
by the extrationists. I've seen them getting chased out the
clubs by the biggest guys in the world.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I've seen that.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I say, Fat Joe has saved so many rappers and
I never tell a story to really really embarrassing. I
had beef one time with the whole entire West Coast
and every New York rapper was there. And when them
dudes came in from Vultron on this store with everybody

(31:45):
walked away. I've seen it in my own eyes. Everybody
we ever thought was tough, who had rhymes in the
ship like they was killing They was leaving me to
get beat up in the middle of the street in
front of everybody.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I'm like, yo, New York, what's up? It's just like
it was closing his curtains and ship. The sign on
the door were closed, closed for business.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
The only rapper from New York that jumped in with
Juju from the beating us.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
And at that point I wanted to be like, your
Juju shouldnt have jumped that's my bro. He don't care.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Ju Yo, Juju, you're a real one, but you man,
you should have mind your business with there's a pure
ass whip that shout out your brother from Mount Vernon
a b A B.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Butler.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
One time I was in a similar situation that had
twenty cock these Friday Guards. I'm about to beat me up.
AV ran over and was like, Yo, Joe, I'm with you,
little guy like.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
This is like there were cousins.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:48):

Speaker 3 (32:49):
But yo, I admire those guys. Those guys they got
love for me for life, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But A B.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
That's that. I grew up with him. Man, he remembers
me a little man.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Shut up. Maybe shows me pictures.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
He was no no, of course, but he was behind
the scenes in Beach Street and Ship like he was outside.
He was from Mount Vernon, but not from He was
outside where they shooting B Street, ab Stead, you know,
taking pictures with Lee and all of them, Impost Avenue
and the Bronx like he was there.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
He was like, Joe, I was beyond outside. I'm like,
what do you mean they be?

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Like anybody name them?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I was there with They think I'm down with their crew.
I was there. It's right, He's right, he was here.
I knew A B. Before I knew him to Graddy House.
He was on this. He was on the phone in
the studio. Ah was this session like for Don't Curse? Oh,
everybody under one book. I always got a lot.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
He'll never get that.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
You don't get that. A lot that happened in Green Street,
that happened in the A room. I remember Kinge coming
through doing his verse. I remember g Rat coming through.
I remember Tick coming through Pool Bob. That was automatic Scot.
That's new role, you know, in new role, and ships
happened under ones just being very modest.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
That's like idea.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
That was a brilliant idea and make a record like that.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Have you Yeah, it was this idea, I see you
like yeah, So they just said we were gonna make
this song called Don't Curse.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
That was just that shame up with every concept you
ever hear him wrap up from hooks to like bridges.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
That's where I learned it from how to build songs.
Don't Curse is one of my favorite. That ship you
did the beat?

Speaker 13 (34:38):
Hell yeah, I want to play it. No, we don't
gotta wait eat curse too much? Play that definitely done.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
This is my fanky peaceful journeys. Say what we want
to say right way. This is still knocking right now.
You can play j I'm telling this rock. Make it
clear I can expect. Let them into a French keep
upon the beaming from them to friends.

Speaker 10 (35:09):
I don't have to soy curse on juggle lyrics enough
verse to make the Bombo swimster seton ship.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Tell me what's your problem? Because Cly's on the corner.
But why he can't solve how did she say it?
I'm curious. Let's you say, honey, let me be fun anyway.
We'll say what we want to say, play how we
want to. It feels good that we so g wrap.
It's time to give you first to your man a
favor it. Don't curse you boji rapp g rap rapping on.

Speaker 14 (35:36):
Yeah you grace, you're telling me, don't curse something verse
and did up worse some first?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I part of cursing you first.

Speaker 14 (35:46):
I kind of got out rage take it even made
a record how I'm doing a long ill bed ahs.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Just sit with them for the fuck have the words
that you heard?

Speaker 14 (35:54):
Of course I they can give up shucks and your
homo forgot the purse is a block, but it's getting
kind of hot. Tell mother pro fanity will tell you, Hey,
whitter first, come up. I'll come to you Richard Pride,
so grand foot kick up first, go through your man
a flight ball and don't curse.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
He wrote my first life, I won't curse.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
I'll take a curse Brither to just say cool flipped
the round of other babies when I do it, Man.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I can't get stuffed junk on the mike.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Then to earn it quick buck mean ain't luke.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Then I grabbed some blues clues for those that can't
find away and got stuck coop flipped the other Waveman,
is this a curse?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I freak the never say, but I made sure behind
my heart first see smooth.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
It's trying to kick off first.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
God side for the vibe. We can't curse.

Speaker 15 (36:47):
Ship my head man, go ahead and ask me what
a kick and send the first out and say nope,
got mike and he wants your mouth.

Speaker 9 (36:59):
Out with thinking of me the last week with the
badd Lingo keeping over the skinnings in the church for him, dingo.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Sounds something going to make it don fresh from your
tailor because they made the movie any custos like.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
You said you let you like way thing from your.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Make it go the other way.

Speaker 9 (37:14):
You know who Populary scream, cursing them up, imitate good
famer and it's so Big Daddy, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
What time the pek a person will do your man
of faith to Big Daddy. Can the small rapping vetter
the n question. It's not gonna buy for They're gonna
be the sense of just warm pepit.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
But you want to beef it?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
What I feel like slapping us stick go on your
jail chair, SIPs.

Speaker 16 (37:41):
Your magical problems are too tragic goal for any source
to stop.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Came from big your capital. What the army just this me,
man gentle, They wouldn't saying that.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
In fact, that.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
To clean on a fan, to be stealing it on
the man of bee rocking anybody. You're hearing me so
heavy day.

Speaker 9 (37:55):
I'm about the six person to kick another person and
don't forget not the curse.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
Don't Big Daddy check us out.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I'm about this monta.

Speaker 10 (38:02):
Fly my first friend I wrote this.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I'm gonna bring my little cousin, the producer up his joint.
His name is d J P.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
To get that.

Speaker 17 (38:14):
Check.

Speaker 10 (38:15):
They rock, can't get.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Hurt, but don't curse God blessed. But I can't message
around with the curses.

Speaker 12 (38:20):
So I'm gonna kick them first?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Why first food about the number one? Here to kick
the facts? Smoke Michael phone and produced crazy track. Y
all are bad broke, Let's start to float.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
I'm gonna kick line.

Speaker 10 (38:30):
So the time for me to go.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I say hurt because every de set. So now I'll
get back to the subject.

Speaker 10 (38:37):
Get wreck get if you take a bluff to just
check with the crew, he rock and see em smans
very down to earth and we didn't have to cut.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You wish catching that I would definitely chilling.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
So let's do that.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
You flin flam flint, black stuff?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
What's the kicker? Curse the beat rob? You could put
the stick to list sun shine back and let me
get mine. This is in my age when this yellow
with hits. If my half poor girls than out Wait,
don't want to hear no drama my father's so I'll
go out and get mad and lifted. Don't have to
say up the show that I'm gifting. God bless me

(39:26):
because I've reached my twenty first ft. Don't drop a curse.

Speaker 16 (39:31):
A fact that hell yeah, peace peace, peace too for
a preacher, I'm talking about it first without a curse.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
That's im a reacher. I'll can rock a party without
a swear.

Speaker 16 (39:45):
Over horseburn words, no curse words, heavy D preferred, so sweat, swing, timber,
soon be clean rhythm before we're saying the bombs.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Let me tell you how ihead cl.

Speaker 16 (39:57):
Me as well, trying to say peace, take beef for
the beats. This spooking people was made for the street.
Notice how cleaning that with that first, But that forst
came the worst.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Are you fuck you? We started cursing.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
That's what had made me me.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
That's the funniest time I've ever had hip hop working
with that man.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
That's man, rest of fish that have man. Let me
ask you a question, Peter. They can come back from
the bathroom and this is dirty.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
That's how you doing this? Else, No, that's how you
do it. You know, every time I'm in the studio
game starting, I used the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
When I'm right, I go in there.

Speaker 12 (40:41):
I go in there.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
It's freezing in this motherfucker. You have to come back
to this new stoley On. You just came with a
five hour Jodan.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Let them let him ask this question.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I hate to say top five, but top five produces
last DJ That rat for me.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, for you you heard a lot. J Dillon Simond
d came out with through smokers.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Eric Oh, doctor Dre.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
You ma.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Said, I don't like people.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
I don't like people, putting himself in the list.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
But you definitely thought Yo Dazz Dylaner was doing them beats,
and I looked at him more as a m C.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
I didn't realize the years later, did that Tupac he
was doing the.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Shout out the dazz he was he was.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I thought they were rappers like I always looked at Dazzer,
Corrupt the spitter.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I got a drink with Dre and Corrupt, right, and
I did both beats because the beat changes in the
second verse. So Dre comes in on the second verse,
killing ship but corrupt, Yeah, yeah, he's underrated. Young tee
to listen, just search up people by Doctor Dre's gonna pop.
This all didn't come out, but it's it's amazing. I

(42:06):
remember Finesse went out there. He was working with doctor
j pehard to join ahead of time, and then you.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Know it came out.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
We're joint.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
That's different the Chinese sound and joining my no, no no,
I forgot the name of it.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Chinese sounded joint.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
He worked a lot with Iced Tea too at the
early at the beginning, Finess was working where Ice.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Seeing the producer that was working Ice, Yeah, yeah, I
mean I wanted to, but I never got to.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
But when I seen that, I was like, damn, I
want to work with Ice Tee.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Origin about the West Coach was Magna, Yeah, we need
ice Ty on here, Kelly, we need iced Ty gotta
touch this couch. You know what I'm saying. He's originally
beyond deserve. And I never forget they threw this all.
You know, it was a concert, but not really because
it was at the movie there that we used to

(43:02):
watch the ch This ship was like good.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Luck Ricaus Island or whatever. You know what I'm saying.
This ship was Prospect Movie Theater.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
They do one concert for some reason, Ice Tea performed
and and I never forget. It was around the time
Larry Davis has shot them cops.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Ice.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
He was on top of the speaker talking about gold
Larry Go. Niggas was going to go Larry Go. He
had the whole crowd screaming. I knew this nigga was
bucked out. I'm watching him. I say, Yo, this dude
is the only Robin Hood will ever have from New
York that Larry Davis, that situation.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
He's a hero for that. And he was corrupt. They
was corrupt. They lined them up.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
They never let him come home.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
They lined them. You know, it wasn't gonna let him
get away with that.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
These Nicks.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
You you trade the whole team for Johnnas. Nope, Jada
says he wants to trade the whole team.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Take everybody, you know, everybody.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Old team and get y.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
That's exactly what say.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Just now, oh no, we're not keeping the whole che's
the major players not doing that.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's the only one. I'm not giving up everybody. The
only seven footer to shoot threes like that. But besides Jokiic,
this cat talk slow to the well you so the
threes got that?

Speaker 5 (44:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Wait, I'm trying to tell you, y'all hate it, y'all
gotta give cat this perhaps.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah east side, right there where you was at. He
didn't say none of that.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
What what?

Speaker 18 (44:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (44:35):
And he's from uptown, promost of New your soul, lendies
from uptown for most and they said keep cat, come on, Manna.
But when you hear fans say, yo, trade this one,
send this one away. That's them haters trying to break

(44:55):
up the team. Yes, they scared to death for what
we got and and it's the same team run at
that day. So let me tell you something. Shout out Daylight.
The album was incredible. Yeah, they keep coming up to
me because they know I love the Knicks and I'm
not even talking about men and women are coming up
to me. Yo, we need to greet the freak. Yo,

(45:17):
we need to get cat out of here. I'm like, Yo,
we went the furthest we ever went last year, twenty
five years.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
That's preposterous. By the way, we really winning.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Were one series away from taking it off last year
with Thibodeau.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
This man right here, Mike Brown. I like him.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
I was starting to like him too, and he got
to move it.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Ah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
You don't like Mike Brown, No, he like him.

Speaker 10 (45:41):
We like him.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I love to.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
I still don't know why we got rid of Tims.
But smoked to a couple of NBA plays and now
they said he maxed out. He did his way of coaching,
he don't do his starter is correct.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
And then once.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Bridges never missed the game in his life, and he said,
this guy's playing us too much.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
They got him that. I know Jaylen Brunston.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
People have their issues with him with drilling and stuff
like that, but drinking too much, driveling ballhog.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Anybody else would have been considered a ballhog.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, he's the man, He's the captain. I love him
and I think he's gonna ship without Jayleen Trunks. Imagine
right now they were saying, trade Jalen Brunson in the
Johanna's trade.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Nobody wan.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Give away your start player. Why would we do that?

Speaker 6 (46:29):
If they right now said Giannis, I would he do it?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Wow? Would we last? Right? How you saying last Nay?
I wouldn't do it, Jada, I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
I lined you up, Jada. If they said trade Jalen
Brunton and Milwaukee in that deal for Johnnys, do you.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Jan No way? The old city is? This is this manthew,
That's what we've been doing for years.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
That's why donest don't even shoot like that. Bro.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Come on, man in the nick uniform. It's beautiful York
dunkan on. I'll take him without giving up. No, No,
you can't get him.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Without taking take full give them four niggas that we
don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Give him one of the third string players on the bed.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Give them they're not going guys, then just leave it alone.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Then that's why I told the nick dances, give him
deuce stop somebody else.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
They're not entertaining.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
No.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Donovan Mitchell was in my house Sunday. Sunday, we're celebrating
with me that he's a nick. I went to the
rucker with him on that Friday, two pictures, was hanging out.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
He was a nick. Last minute, last very second, the
Knicks played the game and said, we don't want to
give up rg it. That's why that whole team went south.
Danny ain't said, oh, you've been playing with me. The
Knicks ain't.

Speaker 10 (48:06):
No.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
They had the Plan B backup. No, no, no, but
the Plan B was right on Plan A cle like
they did Dumpy.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
At the last, last, last minute.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
He was in my house. Jonathan Mitchell was in my
house in New York. Can you got a Jalen Bunt?
Who you saying thing? Donan Oh, okay, somebody from the projects.
The queena is gonna name her baby.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Donathan Crack Williams, donahthy Crack Williams.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
You know, I was thinking about the other night. Remember,
Oh it's foul though.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Remember they used to have bum fights back in the day.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
What those Friday night fights?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Threadible right in night fights?

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Bling blink cracked pipe in the collar, you remember.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Those Shiit was the best ship you ever rested.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Fish to the east side.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Crackhead man missing wrapping east side man. I miss him.
They used to go blink blink, crack pipe in the collar.
You remember that.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
That's like a meat too movement or something that's like
we was found for that. Whoever had them dudes fighting
over crack that ship was just fat.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I seen that nigga.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
They made him drink a cup of hot sauce from
out of this world that ship.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Drink a cattle hot sauce. They had to beat the
ship from the volcano dog. He was on the floord, please.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Killed.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
They couldn't give him that fast enough. That ship Birtha's inside.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
They got this homeless guy, right, I own my coat,
old coat. Then do the homeless guy like that, but
going around for a week with the coat. So if
there's a such thing as a homeless guy, I don't
know if he uses drugs or anything like that, but
he's staying His ship is her mass in the daytime,
then Noble at night.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
He's just two.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Those is his locations, Yes, sir, yeah, every day, right,
you know where the bread is at, you know where
the goat they stay over?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Highly respected. Yeah, anybody gonna hearn messing fucking Noble Ease.
I think it's the matriarch of the bums, the earned mass.
People love him, No, they take care of him.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yes, this guy got bedroom. He's like a food truck
in front of the spot. You can't miss him.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Get him a studio.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
The point is, every time I.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
See him throw him a little one hundred dollars, my
wife be looking at me like I'm crazy. That's not
my job, Like, I'm really not the guy to give
somebody who get high money.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
I just don't now. If it's a lady that looks
like you got a family.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Taking sides on bum you got you gotta heard mess
bum there, you won't give it regular nigga.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I don't like that kid. Gotta hearn mess bumm And
Noble told me for the first time. He told me
the other day. He said, Yo, Joe, you know I'm outside.
This ship gets cold.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
So I went in my house. I brought out the refrigerator.
I got a cold up to the angle that ship.
That ship called it refrigerated, like sleeping That big might
as well be like it's like a sleeping bat. You
could stand in as spend for ten hours. That shit
ain't going nowhere. That ship is the refrigerator. I drove
arown for like a whole week. I ain't see him.

(51:47):
Then I go to my spot to go there on
one seven eighth. There's always this other guy. He's always
sitting out there, and I walk by. He had the
Thinness coat on and it was freezing. It got defrigerator.
Then just brought it to him and we took off
the tags and say, oh man, he say fact Joe.
The whole block was jumping up down for they know

(52:08):
the man fucked up.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Man, you gotta give her mess niggas something great last night.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
What you're gonna give him nigga for you? You got
another figuary.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
I got another one.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I got a gortech, got an fgruary. You know I
fight the power.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
I'm an overdressed.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I remember seeing Okay, I'm an overdresser hit forty.

Speaker 6 (52:29):
I'm in the fir. I don't give a fuck like
I'm an exaggerator. I'm gonna dress.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
You know how they say dress your age.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
I dressed that fucking you know what.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
You say that as we're getting older, because he's just
so used to dressing. Like how you dress can help it. Man,
you're supposed to put on a suit now.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Because you just put on whatever you feel like putting
on it. Okay, so are we dressing? I ain't late
again when you put on whatever the funk you want.
You dressed, Jay says all the old niggas, your niggas.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Is like dang the shoes, quartership.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
The niggas is starting to put rules on all over
like quartership. Quarter zips is post. They're not making fun
of them. Those ships came back, quarter zips came back.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
I got a quarter zip for that ass boy. Let
me tell you look, I got word.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
From not the leopard skin joint, uncle el Roy. Quarter
zip with the leopid.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I'm gonna tell you some leopid when they come to
this motherfucking fascist ship and belt to ass man. It's
getting bad out here for these guys. Man, you see
them victors. The victis that.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Bom from my foot. There you go, freeman started man
in the Bronx Street, Simpson and Freeman to trade guns bad.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
He is the other day, I wore this Pelle pellet.
They made a nick Pelle pellet. By the way, they
took it back.

Speaker 17 (54:04):
You had to war nobody. Ship took it back. That
ship asked me neat that jacket to steal it, about
to rob him. I'm keeping from the next year. That's
what I take the one for next year. But I
was actually about to say, nigga, you dad like I'm there.
I was, and we're said, Joe, the man trusted you.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
He gave me back.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
I was gonna keep the jacket, is what I'm trying
to next day photoshoot whatever. Who kids the fuck but
the owner. I'm telling him, I know you used to
choose the kid from Jewe Man. That's where I got
my start. He said, Man, I know you from Rose
Teddy something bro. He said, I used to see you
in Jewe Man every day. That's where he was dead.

(54:50):
He had the car.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Man, It's done. I was just like you, right, the
three car chuck a luck.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
You remember Chuck a l They got the three dice
Chuck a I.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Was the no one day. I'm a Fordham row my
man from out of town, right. He with me.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
All I know is the dude come back and he says, yo, man,
lend me some money.

Speaker 19 (55:09):
Man.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
The man just took my I said, what you mean
the man took it's the chunk a loak man. I said,
you got turn you luck. He said, nah, nah, give
me some money. I'll get it back. And I said,
you want to know something because he was talking real records.
Because the chuckle Luck guy always looked like a regular guy.
He always got three guys standing within him.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I don't know that. And I said, you see him.
I said, you see him, you see.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
Him, they all with the chuckle Luck.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
He was like, yeah, but yolda got me. So I
go to the chuckle Luck dude. I know Poppy, see
your poppy. You know, give him his money.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Backer. It's about to be a problem here. This is
our store.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
And you know you robbing niggas. We letting you rob niggas,
just not him. He gave him his little two three
hundred back.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
That was that.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
But he had no clue he was. The place was
chuckle Luck always got a team. The guy comes in
and wins on purpose. They let somebody win. Do you
think he won these part of the tea because that.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Reels you in. Then you lose your old school clothes. Yeah,
I got a lot sixty lost the school clothes before.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
Okay, for care, you lost your school street call Molly.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
You thought you could find the red one. Okay, they
fucked you. Good. He's switched the one JIMPI and one
pit air Force. Oka. What fuck you girl? They beat
you out to school clothes. He was gonna get right.
He came back with one Jimpy one air Force.

Speaker 10 (56:31):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
God blessed my mother because she understood what it meant
to be flying to her.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
My father didn't he from Cuba. He ain't give a fuck.
My mother gave me you know appear Puma swayed Pumas
three years after they were the style.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
She got it from me, sher Son, you got it.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Four of us were in the project. She give me.
I go to clam On Pool and I put my
sneakers in the locker without a lot done done. That's
Boomer's nigga. Maman shot right. Song was this tripp? They
got your.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Niggas got me. I had to walk thirty blocks in socks.
That wasn't even it.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
What was worse was the ass whipping. They wouldn't in
the pool with your ship. Why didn't you get in
the pool with them?

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I had no clue. I threw them in the lock.
I played myself. They stole my shits. You know, I'm
all about a nigga stealing.

Speaker 2 (57:28):

Speaker 3 (57:28):
You get me today, I'll get you tomorrow. Stole father, No,
I know the comment, Nah, so you caught another cars.
They stole my car. I robbed this brother.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
You ever asked somebody to rob your whole apartment?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Hmm? Not my old mother.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
You want to fill the bronx yo.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I had an apartment with all the fly leather, the TV,
this and that, and I stood in my mother's house
for like that four day Christmas. I come back, same
dudes always in front of the building, this before rap.
So I go upstairs to the apartment. When I tell you,
the only thing in there, not even brugs, was the refrigerating.

(58:08):
I came downstairs, I pistol whipped every guy in that
that block. To this day, I never go near it
because I know a pistol whipped the whole block. Like
I'm like, like, I can't go back, stopping to store.
None of that ship.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
I'm like, yo, when I tell you, I'm whipped.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
They asses. These are the guys they in that lobby
twenty for they knew if it wasn't done, the big
t women did it right past them. Listen, you needed.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Eight guys to move that TV. There were no elevating
any thing the big TV.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
The big TV.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Remember when the big fat ass, yes, man, you need
at least you might need six cock diesel. You not
getting away with the TV. Them niggas was actually the
lookouts they stole with you. You get your crib rock,
the whole.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
The picture of Jesus was going. I'm surprised they ain't
take the refrigerator.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
I guess those are free in the middlding bright them niggas,
they all caught it bad out there in that lobby.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
But they got me for everything. Everything, They got me fair.
That's the biggest relation.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
So you know, I'm cool with somebody getting o varm media,
you know, because you know I've done stuff. There's a
Comma based business that straightened it out. That's one of
the reasons why I made We made that bootlegging and.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Ship like that.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
That's one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Ever, that's one of my joints.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Oh yeah, you remember the video where we did the
video in Essex County in the real jam.

Speaker 20 (59:48):
Straightening it out videos that's just fire straightened it up.
And we did that video timeless that was fired the
video jail. Then we went to the women's side of
the jail, and I have a few stories about that.
I don't know if I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
That woman side of the jail. What happened with the
woman I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Was signing on the grass and this one woman I
saw took the pen and went like this and gave
it to me to stein. I didn't touch it though. Yeah,
let's talk about she is a gangster and Jay the
Kisses a gangster and play whatever he wants to play.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
That rocks gainst the gate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Yeah, and I said, that's from gangst and the super Gentleman, right,
super gentleman and gangs. Gentleman in a super gangster. Yes,
he has gangster and and gentleman, and he had a
gentleman in a super gangster. Confused, it wasn't a gentleman,
it was just superagst. I was trying to figure out
which one am.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I on gangs in the gentleman. Then the all the
album was super Gangster. That's the one Ye put that
in a gentleman and it's.

Speaker 17 (01:01:00):
Long as gangster gangst war certain ray like music like
the over Beast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Burst listen, j like the Coster. She looses against the Pinster.

Speaker 21 (01:01:19):
Jada gets us against the Danster stuff Hesdinster, Steve blocks.

Speaker 12 (01:01:24):
Once you come up with against the taster, you don't
get none for gunshells.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I ain't on the ball loops.

Speaker 21 (01:01:30):
That's me the dumb bells.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I'm in war mode leading more mold the body. You
have the body.

Speaker 21 (01:01:35):
So the store was four told tell what some real
tape just like a corn roller.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Looking at their head, greasing bullets and you're hid. You
get piece that bullets. What's like canary reach for Canary reasons?

Speaker 21 (01:01:45):
The stones and yellow pisolas, the owner in the blood
by the maker. Madona crashed the whippepper dealer trying to
get me get Alon her. He gotta flipped out of
dif the coprona he cock a brown making some Mormona clown,
but she has a coma. Don't nobody give him funk.

Speaker 10 (01:01:58):
If your paralyzed, gets at the source so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
I can shade on the farrel size city with the King.
We looked at the Pharao eyes and he will know
what's the bowl with the versus the hour rider. What
she looses against the nest, The Jada kisses.

Speaker 21 (01:02:11):
Against the nest, the steph hesic against the lee block
munche comb fuck with against the gangs. Stuff she looses
against the tainst The Jada kisses against the youngster staup
sic against the lee block.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Punch comb fuck with against the hank.

Speaker 12 (01:02:28):
King got to remind me I'm on top of the
line sheet. If you're a fan, you can say up
in Poppins is nine three for my man, Then you know,
off and popping my whole life outside to us finish
my nigga the whole night you contracting gig pins later
turned into false respect mall Tiz and King Penn paper
come out in the d and Cardi frames and pank gators.
Gotta learn how to deal with the weakling hats. Don't

(01:02:49):
even think about the top ten. Just think Jada never
equal less than I think Rader getting being on Philly
can still transport breaks a boy on a fight while
my man will is con silly shit. Imagine how rich
we could really get fucking wool table trip got.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
A billy and t reaches our brother home alab got
on three. He's purple labeled with the hard bodies against us.
She looches against the, against the Shada.

Speaker 21 (01:03:13):
Kisses against the Tainst, the Stepp's viasy against the dee
block munch.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
It comes up with against the against them, she looches
against the then.

Speaker 21 (01:03:22):
Sulperrageated kisses against the gangst no doubt down beasy against us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
You see block money, y'all, y'all straight up the gate.

Speaker 22 (01:03:30):
I'm packed heavy, big chevy twenty fourth man. Danna like
a morning that outlast four false set on my lap
of a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Thing in the trunk.

Speaker 22 (01:03:38):
It's too big and it coming a strap. I got big,
this money causing a lot already. God Weed brings the
cards to the spot. Coke in the pot, Jack on
the count up three money countless, getting from a ground
that I'm probably gonna do. Yeah, your fifty sels like
they probably won't last. And none of these shells I'm
tattooed up. Levi's stumble soul choking, no shirt. Black motherfuckers,

(01:04:01):
the black more fuckers, clack motherfuckers. Keep your little steak
Mouth and tack motherfuckers Silver Drack Nika the Brocco a brat,
I'm a wax Ce block whole that.

Speaker 21 (01:04:11):
She looches against the tanks, the shady kisses against the tankster,
steps Fez against the Dee block Munch, comes fuck with
against the Thankster.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
She looches against the.

Speaker 21 (01:04:23):
Tinster, shady kisses against the tankster, South Beasy against the
Steve Block Bunch. You come fuck with against the tankster.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Man man, that was you know, I used that same
set LV produced HEGs act is incredible, LB used.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
That same sad soled uh so uh damn uhs my man?

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
What's my man? That was in the group of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Joelot is a cool dude. Yeah, Joel Ortiz, I'll say
that he and I don't mean no right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Flea say't say nothing bad about my man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
I'm not going to sell. He's what I'm trying to
tell you might want to listen. I think the guy
is so phenomenal. I invited him to Miami to make
a hit. H I t I sat down with Joel
Ortiz for no dollar, no nothing. That's I gave him

(01:05:35):
a hit, a lean back, a number one. This he
never put it out. He didn't, Hey body did. Some
guys don't want the hit. They want to be underground
so much. I never understood why he didn't put out
the hit, b Rock.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
What are some of the beats you wish you did?
Oh wow, at least to Doctor d beats, at least
two Primo.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
Beats and yeah when we see you remember them or
you just.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Know it'll come to me some big l ship. I
wish I did the big picture beat. I love that
titled what else I said we said to prim and Dre.
I wish I made the chronic He's spicey because I
was hooked that No, I was along too, very nic

(01:06:29):
Yeah that was some ship I can't front.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
I got a little jealous, was the chronic. Yeah, that
ship took world.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
What he was using was like he sounded like AI
in that day. That ship sounded like motion pictures, little
ghetto boy. All that ship was just out of control.
Gave Mede a couple of songs you wish you did?
So when you hear it in the club, all hits,
that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Lean back in the club, Joe, float Joe, straight it out,
reminisce over you fucking who's world is this?

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I realized I wish I made man show him nothing.
I wish I made in the club for sure. He
time my head.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
I'd be like, you know, I made candy Shop with
Scott Storche. You know I told him how to make
the ship. He made it, and Fifty turned that into
some other shit. He called me twenty times. Are you
sure I could give it to fifty? His before and
they beat for anything. I was like, give it to him. Man.
Every time I hear that motherfucker, I'd be like, god dang,

(01:07:36):
But like, how did I let that?

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
I heard how to rob before? Everybody like Fifty don't
remember this. But we was in track Masters and saw me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I was like, yo, yo, yo, Pete, check this out,
and he just pulled him to the corner and he
started spitting alerts to how to rob and I was like,
you're gonna upset a lot of people with this one.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Then when I heard that beat, I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
No, that shit was crazy. You know, he's the original troll.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Yeah, but checkmate happen? So that one four nine one four, baby,
that one four for check mate? Yeah, nine one four.

Speaker 6 (01:08:07):
I don't play like I don't listen to eat that.
I don't listen to eat that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
I don't listen to super Ugly. I don't listen to you.
You're on my thiss and that and that. Now that
beefs are over, I can't entertain it now, like you know,
that ship is over. I did a beef What beef
frecking you did?

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Coming?

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I heard that?

Speaker 11 (01:08:28):
He told us, wowff the bitching you, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
That's crazy. I remember you did that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
What was the hottest beef recking in the game?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Me is the bridge is over? Lyrically, the bridge is over.
It's the first time I knew Jamaicans think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
And then that was what you want me to do.
And I was a good one. I like that.

Speaker 10 (01:08:55):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Get some of the South Bronx wasn't too much. How
many you're making I like that.

Speaker 23 (01:09:01):
People across the country ain't grow up with Puerto Rican.
How many rappers got put in any place behind him
this dis record? Oh no, behind the dis record. How
many rappers said, I ain't going at that, y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
Let me tell you something. Care rest One was my hero.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I get that. He was his ship's creek.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Okay, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking
going up against the whole Juice crew and all that.
But it was not even me, the number one k
r rest fan every show, lessen he did. Eventually we
know the outcome. He's the first gangster rapper. Actually, Ice cute,
Iced Tea, Nah, I think just Dice, no criminal minded,

(01:09:45):
criminal minded before Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
I want to come up before Ice, criminal mind.

Speaker 24 (01:09:55):
Oh yeah, but I'm saying but like criminal Ice ta listen,
I d had the first record.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Did open the rooftop was still open.

Speaker 24 (01:10:05):
You're saying that, But Iced Tea at the first video
heavy day, I was with him. I was had a
song in the viy ic T was in Breaking. That
was before Criminals, before everything. Icy definitely got his a
P call. Okay, like do you ask to a they

(01:10:26):
just send it over s here you. Oh, but he's
the setting gang to the rabbit, Like I think.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I'm at the point where I could get a discount
on the bus. Criminal minded before me, I told you
come out. I told you the movie Breaking, you had.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Me questioning my history.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Did you hear what he said?

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Okay? So I was right.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
See I was right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Went on the streak eighty three, eighty.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
Four, criminal minded first okay in July breaking when he
came out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Okay, you're right he got him. Oh I see I
seem fun out that you got been paying. I'm like
a student. No ship, he up this saying gangster back
and breaking. They doing ship with the broomstick. He was
up there with him a bit.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Hesty doing the backslide.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Yeah, he was back more killed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
Ship Turbo, that's turbo.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Then then defense did that shap know sa iicty skirl
Beech Street and.

Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
He was the ice singing in the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Cool J destroyed a lot of careers, like his first
battle with kum On d That was like that was
the one joint for joint joints.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Joint joint.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
That was a real battle.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
He was considered the nicest riisists at the time. I
was able to make tell my device it was no
song better than the Wild Wow with the.

Speaker 18 (01:12:05):
Wild West, my pop. He made anything I'm giving. I
used to live Town, tell you the Wild Wild West everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
I wouldn't hear this, my pops. I played that as death.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
That album d how do you Like Me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
How you Like Me?

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Teddy Teddy Brolly did that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Yeah, Big Seddy James at first as you did. You know, man,
this is called the Shaw and tr did a lot
of did that's new generation generation.

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
For Cool Keith and the Hut this time listen in it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
No, that's classical. Two is the name of him. Wraps
Rooftop Records. Rooftop had a label No No No. I
remember the first time I heard that was was in
Vietnam in the Bronx at a at a house party
and they played Raps Snoop Genner. You know, he got
a video with me about fourteen with the bubble goose

(01:13:11):
with the big in the middle of the fucking gin,
I scrilling the whole fucking party.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
They got a videos with the way out there like that.
You gotta find that ship from me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
They got a video money back up. And remember the
time Michael Jackson, No, we got a video of you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
I'm a post it is somewhere it's doing that ship
used to wear it. I wasn't like feeling on your
hand and hills. I was wind milling and batsmen and
I could still do it to this day. Anybody went
to bet I got wind mill. I got ten wind mills.
And y'all Pete Rodd Whire's hip hop going artists don't

(01:13:49):
even want to rap no more.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Now these young boys want to stream.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Only the pioneers can say this. Only people like us
can say this that understand the realness what we're doing.
You know the music we make, you know the now
we understand how important the youth is in today's society
or everything that's happened, you know what I'm saying, And
we want to connect with them because I mean, I
had a hard time listening.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
To that music. I was harsh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
And my apology is, you know, the day I sow out,
we made a record call Yours to talk to the view.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
So that's kind of like my power to to the youth.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
It's called Yours.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Yeah I heard it. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I didn't picture comments on it, all right, Yeah, And
so that record was an apology record to the news.
So I feel like with us being older that know
how to stay the ship, it's gonna be up to
us to really have them connect with what we do.

Speaker 11 (01:14:46):
And hopefully, you know, they listen, and when we're gone,
you know what they tell me? His son because I
hustle him all the time. His son company guys having
them bates with its crazy. He goes with my son
with his daughter. Is it now everybody likes? I don't
want to debate. I want to know what the youth
with his king.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yeah, that's my man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
You know what I'm saying. So I go, Yo, what
they say about this or what they think about that?
And then they'll tell me and I'm like, are you serious?
Cas what get into it? Where they answer?

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Is it far? Fetch it?

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Just they don't understand them.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
I'm in the pool with Norrie's sons. I said, who's
your favorite rapper? They tell me the name of a
guy never heard. I said, well, they was like, unc,
you're not gonna like it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I said, what you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
The beats trash, the rappers trash that he's my favorite? Yo, God,
who's the best producer in the past five years?

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Who you think that is?

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
Has five years?

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
That's like a microwave question go from with longevity?

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Damn it is loaded. I'm gonna say alchemist shines alchemists.
I'm gonna say he shines through alchemists. That he say
il commiss al comiss.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
Yeah, we bumped into each other in Japan. Oh shit,
I'm walking in the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Record Alcolall was shopping the records store, digging and I
walk in and I see this guy and I'm like, yo,
that's and then we hung out.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I remember one time I was walking by the train
station and somebody was selling some old records and I
bought him maybe three dollars a bunch of old reports.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
I brought him back to Diamond and he looped up
this joint I had. I had one of my first
demos was He's a big shot, Fred Joe is a
big shot. He took it from the record we bought
and made a fucking beat out of it. And that
was like one of my first demos. You know, with Diamond,
I've seen so much greatness with Diamonds. You know, he

(01:16:51):
still got it. Like I go see him DJ and
he got the same diddy bop. I like the Diamond
diddy bop. And it's crazy, right because I told you
did a reminiscences probably the greatest beating.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I like horns. Horns hit everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:17:07):
Now what even just horns is just like like my
life style went in then bab bam and pulling me
in And I like horns for some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Even that joint.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Y'all just played the gangs, the gangster sh gang. That's
some horn.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
That's ship, dude. What's your favorite instrument to sample keyboard sounds?
And I like horns.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
I did the horn things in the days you horned
because the heavy horns.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Yeah, everybody start following. I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
I got it mostly from forty five King, but Molly
Molly started doing it. First, little doubt, but but forty
forty five King like stressed it, and then I just said,
I just capitalized.

Speaker 10 (01:17:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
I'm starting to work again, right and I'm asking people
for that raw sound. The other day I heard, uh,
it's a hard knock life or even though that was
a commercial hit, if you listen to it now, it
had that raw forty five Kings sound.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
A master. I can't find producers these days to get that.
What's the problem. Even when they do the raw sound,
they'll do something glossy, they'll do something to it. It
won't happen.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
This is why AI is back for music. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
They don't have souls. They don't have the ideas that
come from here, sick here and laying here, just a
little knowledge about you know, the music. It has to
come from a thing for it to be dope.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
A I could never You know what's crazy is I
had this guy every Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
I don't want nobody line me up, but I go
to the Italian Deli and I go get my olives,
my stuff, you know, and they had a guy there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
It was almost like the Rayman, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
He how do we Canole's olix mots of mole you know,
motzer route like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Mouza out. He called it fucking what did he calls
melt Yo?

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Come on, hey watch some canes dog.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Gets it town his moots it out, called him mocks
and melt You can't go back there, and I say.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Something but to Melt.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
So I get to talking to this guy, right So
I'm in there talking to him and then he's talking
about jazz music and this he says.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
He says, hip hop you know how to play instruments?
You know how?

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
I said no.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
She was like, so where does hip hop come from?

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
So as I'm explaining to him for the first time
in my life, it opened my mind. So I was like, yo,
hip hop comes from sampling all other art forms of music,
whether it's Jamaican, whether it's jazz.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Whether it's certain, it don't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
We sample everybody else's music, explaining it to him. And
while I'm explaining it to him, I'm hearing it myself
for the first time where I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Like, oh, ship, we come from that kind of music.

Speaker 6 (01:20:24):
Fron DMC, I'm the king of rock.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
I said, you know they sampled Wayley Rud Remember that Rocky,
remember that shit. And I'm gonna tell you. We did
the fifty offan a versary in Yankee Stadium and if
you ask me, I silently you know none of my
victory nobody broadcast as fat Joe's victories.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
They just want whoever you nain't stepped up on the stage.
I really believe Top three, top two, I ripped it
down more than anybody. I don't care who I'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Got busy too. Though Common was there. He did good,
he didn't do not better than you. Though all right,
Joe ripped that ship down. Yeah, nobody ripped it down
like me. But I'm gonna keep it real with you.
I go up with my family to the sweet and
them boys came on. That's just a doom oom and
I was just like a kid again. And one DMC.

Speaker 19 (01:21:16):
I was like, yo, the gods is here like one
D for me when I was a kid, they were
like superhero God, come on bro, fat Boys, one deal,
c wrapping, Dupe and something else.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
My moms bought me there. That was one of my
best of my life. This nig got their producer. I
know his name, but you remember, right, Larry Larry Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
Larry took your son Captain's sofa Joe for fit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
He never came back. Fucking genius man or Dave cut
the record them too.

Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
That was Davy Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Because it records down to dav D. You called them
what you called them days and we said no, you
called them something else. Av D. You're all the best.
Cut this read. I used to like Malcolm McLaren Worlds, Worlds, Samous, Screen,
Team Marks, Supreme, Team Show Show show that ship was crazy.

(01:22:22):
It was crazy. It was right said about ship.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
Ship was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
And you went to the They at the Jams and
it wasn't around the same time as the Bronx. The
jams in Mount Vernon. They had to have jams too, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Yes, Graham School Park, Memorial Phield And then there was
a seventies concept that the Jackson five came them out,
so he said.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
He well know when he went to the one that
boys in the wrapping duke Michael Jackson no No.

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Performed.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Somebody told me they went to that fucking Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Younger Jackson dancing with You know what I'm saying, shout
out the grab level, Yes, sir, what was because we
were about to go.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
But what was the first song that you would hear
all the time walking into the jams when you was
a kid up and dance.

Speaker 6 (01:23:20):
M you don't original, not even the party ram master flash.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
That's your party joint, Like, that's the joint whoever had turntables.
But the speaking in the window cut the hell out
of that you hearing it for?

Speaker 25 (01:23:35):
And I'm gonna tell that to Patsy's one, and I'm
gonna tell you that you big beat, good time, good
my god, god.

Speaker 10 (01:23:47):
That you.

Speaker 21 (01:23:51):
That was ship.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Nobody playing that ship was right there.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
That's it you absolutely my phone in another.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Way cut to be real, to be real. Yeah, yeah,
those two dance dancing, the jumping, No, that drum was
less dance.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
And then and then they will always go here will
man playing and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Then producing man go work and something.

Speaker 6 (01:24:27):
Go standing everybody got to make a live and I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Sitting on the project radiated.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
One thing the project don't lack heating heat, my man.

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
I remember sitting.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Listening to a cassette one man playing, the man producing
Manko and all that from that might be the first
lyrics I ever analyzed as a kid, like where I said,
what are these women playing?

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Women producing man go work and some girl stealing?

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Everybody got to make a kid homeless heaven, Yes, sir,
that's the ultimate joint right there. What yo, listen, This,
this episode of Joe and Jada was brought to you
by eighteen hundred tequila, the finest of Garvi tequila. They honey,

(01:25:32):
I don't want and I don't want to be on
another show without my partner drinking eighteen hundred tequila.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
This rings out the best.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
This ain't that?

Speaker 10 (01:25:43):
That?

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Ain't this?

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
CRUs make some noise for feet, ropie.

Speaker 15 (01:26:00):
Yeah,

All Episodes

Joe and Jada - Pete Rock on CL Smooth split, Nas & 'Illmatic,' 50 Cent & G.O.A.T. hip hop producers

Episode Transcript

Hosts And Creators

Colin Cowherd

Jason McIntyre

Popular Podcasts

Two Guys, Five Rings: Matt, Bowen & The Olympics

iHeartOlympics: The Latest

Milan Cortina Winter Olympics

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Joe and Jada - Pete Rock on CL Smooth split, Nas & 'Illmatic,' 50 Cent & G.O.A.T. hip hop producers