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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rod Bet. We're
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that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys
pay attention. I am Chadmilman. I am Joamed as always. Bye,
my co host might be a FI companion, my Comfadre
Professional better Diamond Hunter. Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So i'mon, Chad, how much hate or love did you
receive for your top ten lists for a Q.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know, it's so interesting, Simon, because I like to
go into the YouTube comments and I'll reply to people,
and so I was doing that.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Chad is here.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I like to engage. So I was doing that yesterday
and or not yesterday. When was I doing it? I
can't remember anyways, uh, And I was replying to people.
It's interesting. A lot more love for Jared Goff than
I expected, and Sam Donald fans or Seahawks fans just
(01:03):
apoplectic that he was not on the list, and I,
you know, in a reasonable way, tried to explain my
list from my point of view, as I said on
the show, is really about what quarterbacks am I most
afraid to have bet against? In the final two minutes
of the game, or who am I most excited that
(01:23):
I bet on in the final two minutes of the game.
That's my criteria. That's why it's a different list and
a different point of view. We're on a betting show.
I'm not trying to go on get up and say
these are the most talented quarterbacks, these are the best
quarterbacks statistically. These are the quarterbacks who, in the final
two minutes of a game either want to be all
(01:44):
in on or I am super upset that I did
not go all in on them. Sam Donald isn't on
that list for me. Jared Goff isn't on that list
for me. That was interesting to me. I don't know
what kind of response you've.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Gotten, you know, but yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't like that people are really against you. And
Jalen hurts.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah again, I could defend him more.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't want to take up too much of richest time,
right I as much as me and Chad loved to
hearing her own voices, we did have a guest on
so I could spend you know, tons of time on.
I know Matt Mitchell threw a conniption about it, which
I get right, He's a Bills guy's got to.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Defend his guy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And my viewpoint, though, which me and Chad talking about,
we do our list differently. My viewpoint is it's all
about what you've accomplished in your career. No one's saying
Josh Allen has an accomplished a ton of his career.
Adam literally ranked as the fourth best quarterback in all
football right now, But Jalen Hurts is accomlished more's career
that any quarterback in Bill's history.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean, what are we doing here? For real? People
like super Bowls do matter? Right?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Sam Darnold, we give him respect about his super Bowl
is in our top ten list?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
He led the league in turnovers? Did he lead that team? No?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now San Donald makes it back to another Super Bowl
and gets outplayed by Josh Adam or Lamar Jackson or Mahomes, Yeah,
I would say me and chat would have a different
view of him. He beat a banged up Patriots team.
So I feel your paint Shawks fan. I just I
couldn't get there with it. And between the Josh Allen
(03:15):
and Hurts thing, I've said it a million times. No
one doubts the talent level of Josh Allen. What I'm
doubting is which Rich even put it out there. Rich
said he has the most playoff wins in whatever his
last five years NFL. More wins than Mahomes, more wins
than Hurts. That's damning. That's not a good thing. Him
and McDermott had their record for most wins without a
Super Bowl appearance NFL history.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's not a good thing. The league, the Super Bowl
has been around for sixty years.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So that's just my point that I just I get
where they're coming from. It's just I think we're gonna
look back in ten years and differently a Jalen Hurts
that people look at him right now he's too controversial.
Where this is a man that we've been waiting for
a running quarterback to take the NFL to another level.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You have done it. Hurts.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
The man literally went to the NFL Super Bowl, set
the record for most rushing yards and then broke it
his next appearance. So it's like we're in a weird
stage where people still want him. This six', five blonde
haired white guy dropping back and throwing the ball eighty.
Yards hurts can still throw that ball eighty. Yards he
just doesn't look as sexy As herbert doing. It it's
just we're really weird about our eye test. Here so,
(04:20):
yeah it's it's my job to defend his. Honor AND
i JUST i Had stafford above him because What stafford's
more accomplished than. Herts that's my whole point, Here People's
i'm not trying.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To ding these.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
People it's just my viewpoint of who's accomplished more in
this league and end of the, day Super bowls. Matter
Dan marino greatest Pass i've ever seen in the. Football
would we any of us ever put him Above Payton? Manning,
No Payton manning has the. Ring so that's just my whole.
POINT i just people were very Upset, chad not just our.
FANS i had professional better saving me up being like
you're too disrespectful To Josh. Allen it's, like AM i
(04:52):
THOUGH i had him in the top, five AND i
think one year me and you both had him over
in my. Homes this is one of homes only had
One Super bowl ring AND i felt dirty doing. It
SO i love doing those. Lists it's fun here For oh, yeah,
YEAH i definitely agree with. You by The Sam darnald,
One this sip my, mind, honestly LIKE i probably would
have had him in that thirteen fourteen, range BUT i
think we're in a green.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
SCHECH i don't think of us would have him in
our top. Ten.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No the other one that stood out to me a
couple of comments Was jaden And. Daniels and my comment
to folks who were asking About James daniels was there's
probably a little bit of recency bias there and that
he you, know he wasn't in top form last. Year
he was injured a lot last, year and so you,
KNOW i in preparation for, THIS i mentioned this in
(05:35):
the Comments Nate Tice football three TO zho one podcast
he had On Bill barnwell And Greg rosenthal a couple months,
ago and they did sort of a snake draft of top.
Quarterbacks they went through one through, eighteen And Jadan. DANIELS
i think someone chose him to be in their top.
Ten AND i could see the argument because when he was,
(05:56):
healthy he was so. Good BUT i don't want TOO
i actually give more credence to a quarterback who was
terrible one, year Like Caleb, williams and then improved markedly
in the second. Year then a quarterback who came from
nowhere had an incredibly great. Year we've seen it with C.
J stroud and then there's. Regression SO i don't know
(06:17):
what we're getting From Jaden daniels. Yet and SO i
do feel confident With Caleb williams and they're being progress
versus the jury is still out With Jadan. Daniels so he.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Burned us too, though right chat we both had our
top ten last year and we said they're going to
regress this.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Year he totally fell on his.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Space you can say you can blame all the injuries you,
want but when he was, playing he wasn't playing that well.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Either so that's WHY i didn't Have Drake. MAY i.
WENT i heard a lot From Drake may. Haters it's one.
YEAR i.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
NEED i can't keep doing this thing WHERE i buy.
Guys after one YEAR i. NEED i need to start
being more firm ON i need more time with. Guys
and again that goes back to my gill And hurts.
Argument five years as a five year, starter he's top
three in, touchdowns wins and rushing.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yards that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Matters it's like being healthy on the, field being, available it.
Matters So Jane, daniels me And, chatter no one's down
the talent. Level that's a great.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Point.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Chat it's, LIKE i JUST i can't even put him
over a guy Like Sam donald right. Now like it's
Just Sam donald is consistently available for his. Teams he's
played now multiple seasons from multiple different, teams doesn't miss.
Games that's that's. Important you see why that's. Important he
led his team to A Super. Bowl So Jade, Daniels,
yeah that's that's WHY i didn't hear too many people
(07:31):
complain About that's definitely one in the back of my.
Mind now next, yearhere it's, like is that another guy
that we could see bounce back or is that just
a one one hit?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Wonder.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
YEAH i also liked in the Comments dak was getting
some love. Also oh and AGAIN i read all the.
COMMENTS i try to respond as many as. POSSIBLE a
lot of comments about our conversation in The odyssey and
whether or not we loved it too. Much for the,
RECORD i tried to be. CLEAR i thought the filmmaking
(08:01):
was incredibly. Ambitious i'm not sold on the. Story and
for the, record, also the person who wrote the translation
of The odyssey That Christopher nolan based based the movie
on thinks the movie is. Terrible so it's starting to.
Generate after sort of all the glory and love and you,
know deification Of nolan And Matt, damon starting to get
(08:24):
a little bit of a little bit of blowback on The.
Odyssey So i'm, excited.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know the.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Deal we need, doubters we need. Haters that's just part
of the.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Course, also one more comment WHICH i. Love the first
comment was someone, saying amidst all the media chaos in the,
WORLD i like That chad And simon will still be
doing the same show for however long they can do.
It AND i said in the, comments oh my, God
simon AND i just talked about this on the phone. Yesterday,
anyways keep the comments. Coming i'll be in. THERE i
(08:54):
will be in. There. Listen we're doing part two of
our you, know annual eight, parts division by DIVISION nfl
betting preview moving into THE Afc south, today big big Topic. Simon,
Obviously Trevor lawrence wasn't on our. List some people asking about.
That can we See Liam cohen Take Trevor lawrence to
(09:15):
the next? Level what the hell is going on WITH. Cj?
Stroud is he going to take a next? Step is
he going to further, regress It's Robert salad going to
save The. Titans is the window closed for The? Colts
setting the, table betting markets show a very even division
top to. Bottom houston win totals nine and a half
(09:38):
minus one twenty to the Over jacksonville eight and a
half minus one forty to the over again from hard
rap Bat indianapolis Colt seven and a half minus one
thirty five to the Over tennessee minus six and a
half minus one ten on both. Sides all, Right Simon,
Hunter Houston. Texans this team did not start, strong and
(10:03):
then they had a defense that did not quit and
a coach And Dimico ryans who keeps them playing at
a very high. Level and it is really a guy
that a lot of people would want to play. For
so they finish twelve and. Five they Crush Aaron rodgers
and The steelers in the wild card before Losing New
england in The divisional. Round, tough tough game for them
in The divisional round plus one twenty to win the.
(10:27):
Division they are the favorites nine to one to win the,
conference twenty to one to win The Super. Bowl, LOOK
i think we need to have a conversation about The
jaguars on the upswing and The texans plateauing where is your?
(10:50):
Head right?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Now It's Texans division easily to.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Win and that's If i'm putting my money highly invested
into a team in this, division it's got to Be.
Houston it's a team that's returned to all eleven other defensive.
Starters AND i, mean we we can talk anagement about.
It Demiko, ryans how smart he is defensive, mind the
talent they have, Defenses oh my, god they might have
two top, five top seven depending on your grades d
(11:17):
ends for this, team Right and you know it's when
they Got, HUNTER i was, Like, okay that's that's a
good right because now they're gonna have one one one
of them is gonna one on one matchups on the.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Edges you saw last.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
YEAR i think they had both had double digit, sacks
like they were just so. Dominant and you, KNOW i
don't want to say he's lost all his, aura BUT. Cj,
STROUD i don't know if you saw that video of
him walking into camp the other, Day, chad and if
you have anyone out, there you need to go look it.
Up he looks like a seventh grader getting dropped off at.
School the way he, walks in his, style the way,
(11:50):
yeah the, mannerisms it's so bizarre where it's, like what
has happened TO. Cj he does not have the swag
or the confidence or whatever it was that he had
after that first year.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Year oh my. GOD i hope he can find it because.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This is such a talented team and our questions are
the offensive. Line and this has been What. Chad, now
this is year four of us being, like we think
they have the, talent do they have the offensive? Line
and we've seen every YEAR cj has gotten worse since
that rookie. Year and that's just the accumulation of hits
and bad coaching in my, opinion. Offensively and you know,
(12:23):
what Is David montgomery the answer for? THEM i think
he's gonna. HELP i do think he's gonna, help THOUGH
i know he's not the exact nits you're looking, for
but this is a veteran that's consistent and that's something
they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Need where their defense gives them short.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Fields that's what was so impressive last year was just
felt like every time they needed, to they had the
ball in their opponents thirty or. Forty BUT cj is
just settling for field. Goals he could not move or
advance the, ball and it was JUST i, MEAN i
don't pep remember their kicker felt like every game it
was getting like five field. Goals it was just bizarre
award where they just could not score offensively and that cost.
Him earlier the, year what they start owing, three chatter
(12:56):
was owing. Four it was something crazy like. That and
they obviously turn it around and still made the, playoffs
but they didn't win their division because of.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It, right that's Why jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Did so just projecting, out we expect them to have
a better season they did last, year, right not to
start as. Poor the bringing back the eleven, STARTERS i
can't be banging people over the head enough about how
crazy that, Is like this is already a top three.
Defense the connuity now of having those guys back With demko,
again it's just it's all ON.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Cj so just value, WISE i like.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
IT i have them at eleven, wins so nine and a,
half no problem betting that over if you want to
divisionally their plus one twenty no issue betting that. Either
and we'll obtually get these other. Teams but it's just
it's all lined up For. Houston they're far and above to,
me the best team this. Division the question would be
their offensive line obviously IN. Cj but WHEN i look
at both those obstacles right, NOW i do think their
(13:48):
their offense line is going to be better than it has
been years, previously which isn't saying.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Much, well, look that's where they put their that's where
they put their. Money and there's a lot of questions right,
now and there's been a lot of speculation during the.
Offseason did they do, enough did they pay attention to?
It it's not where it's not where anyone feels like
(14:12):
it should be, yet but they did spend a first
round pick on. It Keelan rutledge from the guard From Georgia.
Tech they Added Braden smith from The, Colts they Added
Wyatt teller from The, browns they Added Evan brown from The. Cards,
like they're basically GIVEN cj a brand new offensive. Line
(14:35):
so part of, that, okay they're. Recognizing part of that
is everyone knows how important it is for an offensive
line to be coordinated and play well. Together so was
that going to be a hindrance early in the, Year
and Again it's also about the. Offense they continue to
change offensive coordinators on this, team and how are they
(14:57):
going to find an offense that plays To CJ's. Strengths
his ability to throw the ball down field was always
something that separated him and be accurate with those and
that's been getting increasingly. Worse like it's weird to be
thinking that we're talking ABOUT. Cj shroud as the reason
why this team might not win the, division but it
kind of is all on him at this. Point he
(15:19):
is the difference between this team being a Super bowl
contender in an incredibly competitive conference and this team again
needed to rely, on you, know their field goal kicker
and their. Defense that's what it. Is that's.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It, Yeah and it's and like you, said IT'S. Cj
as they've gone tape on, him we said he's regressed
in many. Ways but that's that's the way the league, is,
Right they're going to keep attacking their strengths and try
to expose your. Weaknesses and we've seen that over the.
YEARS i mean that those playoff games Against pittsburgh And New.
ENGLAND i can't get that out of my. Mind that's
WHY i, mean you donhim in bad AND i think
(15:54):
about him as a top ten, guys he's not even
a top fift, team maybe potentially top. Twenty he's played
that poor in such a, Games so huge year For
Cjing and obviously contract, wise they if you had done
what he needed to, do he had been paid right, Now,
yea he knows obviously what's going on as.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well so, yeah it's it's all there For. Houston it's
all up for.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Them AND i obviously love the fact they they won
the division last year because it helps them with an easier.
Schedule but we'll, see it's the way the league is
the new. Year it's there's not that big of a
difference between the two or the one in your. Division,
right instead of playing The, patriots they Played Josh. Allen
now like that that actually does kind of. Matter so,
yeah it's it's all there For.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
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think we both both. Agree we love this. Guy, huge
Huge Liam cohne, Fans and one of our favorite conversation
(18:48):
points last year Was Liam cohne's facial expressions When Trevor
lawrence made an, idiotic boneheaded, mistake or the way he
would not even Bailed Trevor lawrence out when it was
getting so late in the playclock and he was clearly
in the wrong play and was trying to get out of.
It Meeting Trevor lawrence And William cogan would not call
(19:10):
a time. Out he would just be, like screw, You
we're taking the five yard. Penalty you're gonna come over,
Here i'm gonna yell at. You i'm going to explain
to you what you're supposed to, do and hopefully at
some point it gets into your pretty little. Head so
what happens this? Year they go thirteen and? Four last
year they win the? Division can they run it? Back
(19:31):
Is Trevor lawrence? Smarter is this a team that has the? Talent, because,
LIKE i think their defense is pretty, good AND i
do think that like, offensively there are moments Where Trevor
lawrence is clearly the best quarterback in the. Division so
why DON'T i want to bet on this? Team?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, Right and it's a team that come into this,
YEAR i would shocked to see that.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They weren't the favorite Over.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Houston and maybe you could, say well that is because
the first best schedule and all, that but, yeah that
it's a team in the second half of the season
you could say they were probably the best team in.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
FOOTBALL i, mean That's.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
William cohen did last year to get this team turned
around was was, amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And they just were so well coached offensive by, like you,
know me And chad were Giving trevor with to ours
hard time because he looked like an. Idiot he looked
totally lost for the first six seven, weeks which that
makes sense in a new, offense but we were really
based on our opinion of How leean was treating, him like
how we both envisioned. That and obviously the second Half
trevor was what we've all expected to, be, right this
(20:38):
number one, pick this guy who's you know when of
the top raighted players ever come out of high school
dominated college and then came to the league and in
that draft, class he's, only honestly the only one left.
Standing he really was a tier above everyone else in many,
ways and just watching him, play we see the.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Talent it's just so.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Inconsistent AND i Mean chad said their defense was improved last.
Year now to me that same. Thing they didn't improve
the offensive, line WHICH i thought was really. Interesting you,
know they have a ton of talent receiving, wise, right
we already know you Know. HUNTER i believe now they've
saying he's going to be a, cornerback WHICH i agree.
WITH i don't think they need another. Receiver they're they're
(21:16):
good in that. Position but the fact that they're gonna
just what we took it from the get. Go there's
a reason there aren't two way players in this. League
the body can't hold. Up his first, season he didn't
even last and you can say that was a fluke,
injury but it's what we've been. Preaching it's just it's
different than college. Football this is grown men hitting you.
Consistently in this, league it's really hard to have your
body hold, up let alone taking hits and delivering. Hits thank,
(21:38):
God hunter is now going to play one, position WHICH
i think is gonna better for The. Jaguars BUT i
think as a CORNER i much prefer him THAN i do.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
As wide, receiver especially folk work.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Wise so you, know the Reason i'm not crazy about
betting this team is just BECAUSE i do think they're
gonna have a. REGRESSION i do, think as WHICH i
Love Liam COB's. OFFENSE i think giving these other teams
an offseason a look at what they did With Trevor,
lawrence they're going to attack.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
That can he adjust that you know to be.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Seen but it's just WHEN i look at in this whole,
division who is the most dominant GROUP i do Put
houston way above everyone else with that. DEFENSE i just
think that is such a dominant. GROUP i know exactly
What i'm. GETTING i have too many questions still about
This jaguars, team not just, defensively you, know not that
they weren't lucky last, year but they had a lot
of bears to, them a lot of turnover luck where The,
(22:26):
bears as bad as their defense might have, been what
was it a thirty three thirty five year old safety of, Yours,
CHAD i forget who it. Was we had like five,
PICKS i feel, like and it was like four games
in a. ROW a lot of things bounce their Way
bears wise. Defensively feels the same way with The. Jaguars,
now it's good, coaching, right putting your guys in the right.
Position but we talk all the. Time when you look
at those, charts you have to bet regression on certain
(22:48):
sides of the, ball AND i think there will be
aggressing defensively on the turnover luck and. OFFENSIVELY i know
they're trying to say it's not a big deal los
an etn and have a two and step in, there
but that's gotta be somewhat of a DOWNGRADE i Mean
etn was a different player than. TWO i know tunes
run through your, type run through your face type of running,
back but he doesn't have the finest That etn. Had
so that's gonna be another adjustment that teams you have
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to make so they're right there With.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Houston.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
OBVIOUSLY i know professional betters that have to take a
position On jaguars just because you're getting plus two ten
plus two twenty f books right now, divisionally BUT i
think the books are telling themselves a little, bit. Right
that's such a huge delta between these. Two even THOUGH
i think public perceptions these teams are pretty close to each,
other well they're really. Not like my model has, Obviously
houston way above This jaguars.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Team So i'm not gonna fall for the.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
TRAP i MIGHT i might look a little towards the
over and their win totals as we get closer to the,
season just because this, DIVISION i mean we're Not we're
about to getting The colts into a. Minute it's just
it feels like there's ones they be have in this
division this upcoming. Year SO i don't hate, that but,
divisionally something is. OFF i just DON'T i don't trust
those odds at plus two. TEN i think they're trying
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to suck me in here on, this on This jaguars
team that their divisional.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Odds it is a very juicy number WHEN i look at,
it getting over plus two hundred on The jags in
a division they won last year with a coach that
we really believe. IN i agree with you about Etn
they also Lost Devin, lloyd who sort of had that
(24:21):
career year at the exact moment he needed to have.
It he's. Gone we talked about that on THE Nfc south.
Episode what they really did was they just invested in
re signing some of their best. Players at the top
of that Is Travon. Walker they gave him one hundred
and ten million, dollars you, know former number one overall,
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pick the guy famously taken right Before Aden. Hutchinson and
he's been, good but not. DOMINANT i think what he's
really been is sort of a really good balance for
the other side of that defensive. Line so you've really
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got to believe In Trevor lawrence if you're gonna take
a shot at the plus two ten. Here that that's
what really gives me the biggest, pause BECAUSE i want
to take. IT i want to take it so. Badly
it just feels like too much of a, difference like you,
said between plus one twenty for The texans and plus
two ten for The, jaguars too, much too. Much they're begging,
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Me they're kind of begging me to do.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It it's a.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Trip that's Why i'm not going to do. IT i
didn't even make a note on. It i'm not going
to do. It you mentioned The colts what a bummer
right like they were crushing. It Daniel jones was on.
Fire you. KNOW i mentioned in THE qb episode quarterbacks
who were in top ten in BOTH epa per drop
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back and success, rate and the list included, illuminaries you,
know Like. Mattheword hold, ON i want to look at
the exact list here for a, second because it Was,
Stafford Drake, May Jordan love brought, party but also on that,
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List Mac, Jones Daniel. Jones Daniel jones didn't get a
sniff for top ten, quarterback even though if you had
asked anybody before he was injured last, year would he
have qualified as a top ten? Quarterback of, course because
he was playing at AN mvp. Level so they start
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off eight and two Finish you know what did they?
Finish eight and? Nine And i'm sorry they start off
six and? Two what was it eight and two or
six and? Two let me look at my.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Notes.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Two, yeah started eight and two and then they missed
the playoffs for the fifth straight. Season Sas, gardner they
give up their first round picks for. Him he was not.
Great Daniel jones is now recovering from a torn of
killes plus three seventy five to win the. DIVISI i
don't think this team got, Better, Simon like they added
(27:06):
their biggest additions Were ard And, key a defensive end
from The titan offrom The, titans and they got rid
Of Michael pittman in favor Of Alec. Pearce it was now.
Injured this team did not get. BETTER i feel badly
for them BECAUSE i felt like they had a shot last.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Year, yeah and this feels like it's the year before the.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Year in my, opinion you Have Daniel jones coming off
a major, injury and this Isn't mahomes. Type this Is
Daniel jones coming off a major. Injury we don't expect
them to step right in and be an elite level.
Quarterback last year he was building to be an elite level, quarterback,
Right AND i mean.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
We made the running.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Joke i've never in my life ever had a team
hit my win, total which they. Weren't total was seven
and a. Half last, year the chat said they were
eight and. Two they hit their win total was the
end Of october or Early. November they didn't win another
game the rest of the. Year like you just it
just doesn't, happen, right and.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
The.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Sink, yeah the mentality of this, TEAM i JUST i
have major. Questions and in the, SEASON i MEAN i
Know manmacher was in our chests and With Chris, ballard
who he painally said he turned. Down he turned down
a contract to start the year because he wants to
win before signing a new. DEAL i feel like the
fans in the same boat as. Me they just they
need something different in. THERE i hope the owners listen
to their fans and they just as much as he's,
(28:20):
TRIED i do not Fall. Chris he's every he's trying
to get a different. Quarterback remember that whole run we
had The Matt, ryan The Philip rivers every year trying
to find a. Guy Carson Wentz no one faults, him,
right it was just a lot to put on a
guy's plate After Andrew luck retired on them and they
just never found their. Way and last year was the
way they had the. TEAM i felt, like right they
had the. Offense you know that we're not even talking
(28:42):
About Alex. Pierce how big of a deal that. Is
this kid might start in the pump like that's their
by far number one, receiver especially now they got rid Of.
Pittman you, know it's just it feels like next year
we'll be all.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
In on The.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Colts that's honestly HOW i feel, like get Get Daniel jones.
BACK i know he's trying to rush back right.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
NOW i hate.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It it's, like, dude you had an achilles. Tear you're
a mobile. Quarterback please take your. TIME i, mean as
you don't want to See Anthony richardson going there and
potentially steal your. JOB i think we think most of
us agree you're. Safe like that, kid he's just not
gonna figure out like. That what he needs to figure
out is going to take years to figure. Out SO
(29:19):
i just from my, standpoint how do you bet anything
into their Over everything on this team screams. Under it
just not from a season from, hell because they still have, talent,
right they still Have Jonathan taylor And Tyler warren on,
offense and if it Is Anthony, RICHARD i Think shane
sticking about was scheming. Up this is one of the
great best schemers. EVER i, mean we've seen what he's
done and since he's been in The, colts he always
(29:40):
finds a way to make get the most of the
talent he has an. Offense But chad said it like
they didn't really add much, right because they're kind of
handcuffed because they just tried to go so. Big The
Sauce gardner trade might be one of the worst trades,
Ever like giving up multiple first round picks for that,
guy and we've seen the trademark and other. Players you,
know would you rather have him Or Miles. Garrett it's
not even the, contest so it, is and it's tough
(30:04):
with This colts. TEAM i want to be, POSITIVE i
want to like, them BUT i could easily see them being.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Fourth place in this division this.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Year it's it's going to be really close to than
The tennessee and it doesn't feel like it's. Them but this
feels like a five win. Team if you have a
quarterback coming back to early off. INJURY i think it's
going to lack a lot of confidence in the locker
room and that's just going to great. Turmoil Where as
much AS i respect shanstike, AND i don't know if
you can overcome all that. Drama and you, know this
is going to be a tougher. Division it's be interviewous
(30:30):
years like That Jaguars houston. Team you, know as much
as we like to think The colts can split it with,
THEM i could easily see both those teams sweeping This colts.
Team so it's it's dark right now for my view
on This colts team's upcoming.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Season what a bad run For Indianapolis Sports Dance june
of what year was? It twenty twenty? Five Tyris halliburton
has an epic, run taking The pacers to the final
tearr's his. Achilles The colts come out looking like world
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beaters eight and. Two shane steiken finally gets to be
in his. Bag we both Love Shane. STEIKEEN i think he's.
AMAZING i think what he's done with that, team various,
quarterbacks you, know transitioning NonStop From Anthony richardson To, Gardner
minshew To Daniel, jones like he has found ways to
make that team, competitive really, impressive, stock really Stoic Daniel,
(31:29):
Jones tarr's his. Achilles they go all in For Sauce
gardner and it all falls, apart so now they don't
have draft. Picks, meanwhile The Indiana pacers they goll in
for the center from The clippers whose NAME i can't
remember or pronounce appropriate properly right, now and they give
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up the chance to get one of the four players
coming out of college basketball this year in the draft
because they lose their lottery position with the trade they
made with The. Clippers that is just an epically bad
run in lacking new talent and your best players tearing.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Achilles you got from, me you Got signetti and The.
Hoosiers you're gonna be, Fine.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Indiana, well you know it's. FUNNY i was In indie
last week and my uber driver we were, talking and
all we did was talk about THE iu football. Team
he was in the playoffs last. YEAR i went to
the playoffs last. Year it was so freaking. Glorious most
(32:38):
people could probably see THE iu wins poster over my.
Shoulder but that's. True we did Get indiana. Football it's
too bad for The colts and The. Pacers, THOUGH i
THINK i might be the only one who cares about
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Speaker 1 (35:01):
Simon the team that we have been completely misaligned with
for the past two, seasons The Tennessee. Titans when it
was time to bet against, them we couldn't do. It
we wouldn't do it when it was time to bet on.
Them we couldn't do. It we wouldn't do. It this,
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year it's a brand new. Ballgame robert sala is the new.
Coach brian Dave ball is the new offensive coordinator after
his stint with The. Giants Gus, bradley longtime defensive coordinator
former head, coach is now the defensive coordinator for The Tennessee.
Titans Cam. Ward we saw a lot of potential with Cam.
(35:44):
Ward they finished three and fourteen plus eight hundred to
win the, division sixty to one to win The, conference
one hundred and fifty to one to win The Super.
Bowl here's WHAT i thought was. Interesting so they Got
Carnel ta From Ohio state in the first. Round they
also Drafted Keldrick fall From auburn on the. Edge they
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Gave Jeffrey simmons a massive new, deal their biggest wide
receiver free, agent Signing Wandale. Robinson Brian daball favorite with The.
Giants they signed Former Jet John Franklin myers to a big,
deal and they traded for Former Jet Jermaine. Johnson Is
robert solid just trying to reconstitute The New York jets
(36:28):
in the middle Of. Nashville what is happening.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
HERE i love our.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Fans we talked way too much for the. HONESTY i
had someone dam me a meme of when we mean
you were going to talk About, tennessee and it's Of
Matt damon tied to the bow of the, ship screaming
when the sirens that it should honestly be me And
Chad we should be just screaming at top of our,
lungs tied to the, bows not able to swim away
Toward Tennessee, titans who we.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Love, yeah it's so.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
TRUE i am tempted here plus eight hundred to win the.
Division i'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
LIE i did place a little bet because we talked
all the time about the new coach bump and the
year two. Bump, right DO i really believe Cam wore
is gonna take this giant? Step, no because he just
had a lost. Season but the potential is. There we
see time to top again in THE. Nfl like the
talent level these quarterbacks is so. High if you can
just get it in between before these defense can figure you,
(37:18):
out you can steal a. Season that's just how it
is in this, league where it's, like well.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Look At Drake may and look At Kayla, Bipes yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Exactly it's, like but any of us had seen them
becoming the one and two seeds last? Year no or
two seeds for both. Divisions, no it's you know the.
Conferences you just don't see these things. Coming so WHY
i look at this, Team it's LIKE i still see major,
holes major.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Weaknesses can solid correct that stuff on? Defense? Sure? Offensively
is Is tate really gonna be that? Guy you?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Know Is pollard gonna be the number one back that
they need to step up and be a workhorse for
them because you can't put it all On.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Cam we saw last year right.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
With cam how many bets do we Lose shad in
the final three minutes of the fourth quarter because cam
or tried to do too Much and we don't fault
them for that a rookie making rookie. Mistakes But, SALA
i don't, know if you watch A tv, show it
felt like they were very gentle to him last. Year
Cam Ward sala is not that. Guy SALA'S i think
he's gonna be in his face being, like you're losing me,
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games were costing me. Games i'm not gonna waste my
time in another quarterback like this like this really would
be a true test here to me for Cam. Ward
maybe they give him another year after, this but the
draft class is so good. Upcoming if they're number, two
number three pick on this upcoming, draft it would be
really hard at A gm to pass on this draft.
Class as much AS i love Cam ward AND i
think he's a ton of, talent you just have to
(38:35):
do what's best for.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Organization that's restart.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Over AND i really do think Cam they've supported, Him
they've put pieces around. Him will the offensive line be
better than it was last? Year they need to, be
because he was too much pressure in his face. Consistently
and you, KNOW i look at this team WHERE i
can SEE i can see the talent. There and If
salad does come in and changes this whole mentality, team
(38:58):
there is something to boat off of. It AM i
gonna tell people ON ourt that listen to this that
bet this team Over. Houston. NO i have much more
faith In. Houston better, value in my, Opinion houston a
lot of that. Stuff SO i JUST i think the
numbers too. BIG a plus eight hundred is too. BIG
i have a plus six. Hundred the numbers thrown off too.
MUCH i think The colts is getting too much love
(39:18):
from the sports, book AND i think that's, why in my,
opinion you're getting free value here this on This tennessee.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Team they're not gonna be as bad as they were last.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Year i'm telling you, guys it's just as much as we, think, well,
okay maybe they'll steal one or two games that they
didn't steal last. YEAR i agree with that, sentiment BUT
i think you know what are they had six. Wins
that's where their win totals this. Year six and a.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Half, yeah six and a. HALF i could see.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Him getting the seven or eight. Wins.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Chat it's just that big of a BUMP i think
From salah and Cam. Ward SO i am highing this.
Team what in this division, Though it's just you need
so many things to break your. Away you need a
lot of things go wrong In, houston not only injury,
luck but you need their defense to follow up part
and then we've already talked nowage about The. Jaguar and you,
know even if they regress a little, BIT i still Think,
(40:03):
liamp you get that team to ten, Wins Like that's
how good of a COACH i Think Liam cohen. Is
so it's just it's hard for me to see this
team be a playoff team to win this. Division but
if you want to take their win, TOTAL i don't hate.
THAT i can see them getting seven or eight. Wins it's,
just you, know for me to be all on The titans,
Team i'm gonna wait another. Year i'm gonna be patient,
here But i'm excited the fact that they did go
get a new. Coach they are trying to support Cam,
(40:25):
ward and it's it's it's what you want to see,
organizationally if you're a fan of The Tennessee, titans it's
it feels like it's the year before the.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Year the parallels now THAT i think about, it between
The Bears Ben, Johnson Caleb williams and The Patriots Mike,
Rabel Drake may and The Titans Robert Sala Cam mooard are, interesting,
(40:51):
right new, coach new, energy second year quarterback who showed
flashes opportun unity to. Improve, now if you and you,
know The bears got, lucky, right they had great sort
of fortuitous opportunities Between Michael parsons getting injured and The
(41:15):
lions offensive line being in shambles AND jj McCarthy not
being the answer and The patriots had a really great
run with their schedule and some tough losses by The.
Bills so you, know if you both.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Played the fourth base schedule, right chat someone youkognoledge, about
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Matter it doesn't. Matter like if you squint you can see. It.
Now the difference, is Is Robert Salad Ben, Johnson, like
is that a? Match? No Is Robert thalid that he
have the same kind of success In aura That Mike
rabel had before he went To New. England, No so
it's not a perfect, comparison but superficially it's. There and
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then it's like you got to believe That Brian dayball
can do for Cam ward what a lot of people
allege he did For Josh, allen and that's how we
ended up getting The giants. Job now you could also
say didn't really do that much in the. End was
he that great of a? Coach we don't. Know so
there's also ways in which the comparison completely falls. Apart
but IF i were doing, THIS i would take the
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flyer on the plus eight. HUNDRED i would not take
the flyer on over their season win to just better,
value like take a little bit smaller taste and have
a little more.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Upside, yeah and our dream scenario would be it's week,
sixteen seventeen And tennessee's a game Behind houston and we
can find a position.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Aheage SO i totally. Agree that's WHY i threw a
little on the plus eight Hun.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
DREDGES i Bet houston plus one to twenty didn't touch
The jaguars didn't touch the cold. Type put a little
bet on This tennessee. TEAM i just think when you
had the same mentality that new coach year two quarterback.
Bump it sounds crazy here In, august but you know
it just happens time and time again in THE.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Nfl little little tiny. Taste all, right, listen THAT'S Thefc south.
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Speaker 4 (43:29):
Doo all do all
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Day
Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rod Bet. We're
part of the Volume podcast network. This is the show
that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys
pay attention. I am Chadmilman. I am Joamed as always. Bye,
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
So i'mon, Chad, how much hate or love did you
receive for your top ten lists for a Q.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know, it's so interesting, Simon, because I like to
go into the YouTube comments and I'll reply to people,
and so I was doing that.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Chad is here.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I like to engage. So I was doing that yesterday
and or not yesterday. When was I doing it? I
can't remember anyways, uh, And I was replying to people.
It's interesting. A lot more love for Jared Goff than
I expected, and Sam Donald fans or Seahawks fans just
(01:03):
apoplectic that he was not on the list, and I,
you know, in a reasonable way, tried to explain my
list from my point of view, as I said on
the show, is really about what quarterbacks am I most
afraid to have bet against? In the final two minutes
of the game, or who am I most excited that
(01:23):
I bet on in the final two minutes of the game.
That's my criteria. That's why it's a different list and
a different point of view. We're on a betting show.
I'm not trying to go on get up and say
these are the most talented quarterbacks, these are the best
quarterbacks statistically. These are the quarterbacks who, in the final
two minutes of a game either want to be all
(01:44):
in on or I am super upset that I did
not go all in on them. Sam Donald isn't on
that list for me. Jared Goff isn't on that list
for me. That was interesting to me. I don't know
what kind of response you've.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Gotten, you know, but yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't like that people are really against you. And
Jalen hurts.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah again, I could defend him more.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't want to take up too much of richest time,
right I as much as me and Chad loved to
hearing her own voices, we did have a guest on
so I could spend you know, tons of time on.
I know Matt Mitchell threw a conniption about it, which
I get right, He's a Bills guy's got to.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Defend his guy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And my viewpoint, though, which me and Chad talking about,
we do our list differently. My viewpoint is it's all
about what you've accomplished in your career. No one's saying
Josh Allen has an accomplished a ton of his career.
Adam literally ranked as the fourth best quarterback in all
football right now, But Jalen Hurts is accomlished more's career
that any quarterback in Bill's history.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean, what are we doing here? For real? People
like super Bowls do matter? Right?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Sam Darnold, we give him respect about his super Bowl
is in our top ten list?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
He led the league in turnovers? Did he lead that team? No?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now San Donald makes it back to another Super Bowl
and gets outplayed by Josh Adam or Lamar Jackson or Mahomes, Yeah,
I would say me and chat would have a different
view of him. He beat a banged up Patriots team.
So I feel your paint Shawks fan. I just I
couldn't get there with it. And between the Josh Allen
(03:15):
and Hurts thing, I've said it a million times. No
one doubts the talent level of Josh Allen. What I'm
doubting is which Rich even put it out there. Rich
said he has the most playoff wins in whatever his
last five years NFL. More wins than Mahomes, more wins
than Hurts. That's damning. That's not a good thing. Him
and McDermott had their record for most wins without a
Super Bowl appearance NFL history.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's not a good thing. The league, the Super Bowl
has been around for sixty years.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So that's just my point that I just I get
where they're coming from. It's just I think we're gonna
look back in ten years and differently a Jalen Hurts
that people look at him right now he's too controversial.
Where this is a man that we've been waiting for
a running quarterback to take the NFL to another level.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You have done it. Hurts.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
The man literally went to the NFL Super Bowl, set
the record for most rushing yards and then broke it
his next appearance. So it's like we're in a weird
stage where people still want him. This six', five blonde
haired white guy dropping back and throwing the ball eighty.
Yards hurts can still throw that ball eighty. Yards he
just doesn't look as sexy As herbert doing. It it's
just we're really weird about our eye test. Here so,
(04:20):
yeah it's it's my job to defend his. Honor AND
i JUST i Had stafford above him because What stafford's
more accomplished than. Herts that's my whole point, Here People's
i'm not trying.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To ding these.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
People it's just my viewpoint of who's accomplished more in
this league and end of the, day Super bowls. Matter
Dan marino greatest Pass i've ever seen in the. Football
would we any of us ever put him Above Payton? Manning,
No Payton manning has the. Ring so that's just my whole.
POINT i just people were very Upset, chad not just our.
FANS i had professional better saving me up being like
you're too disrespectful To Josh. Allen it's, like AM i
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THOUGH i had him in the top, five AND i
think one year me and you both had him over
in my. Homes this is one of homes only had
One Super bowl ring AND i felt dirty doing. It
SO i love doing those. Lists it's fun here For oh, yeah,
YEAH i definitely agree with. You by The Sam darnald,
One this sip my, mind, honestly LIKE i probably would
have had him in that thirteen fourteen, range BUT i
think we're in a green.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
SCHECH i don't think of us would have him in
our top. Ten.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No the other one that stood out to me a
couple of comments Was jaden And. Daniels and my comment
to folks who were asking About James daniels was there's
probably a little bit of recency bias there and that
he you, know he wasn't in top form last. Year
he was injured a lot last, year and so you,
KNOW i in preparation for, THIS i mentioned this in
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the Comments Nate Tice football three TO zho one podcast
he had On Bill barnwell And Greg rosenthal a couple months,
ago and they did sort of a snake draft of top.
Quarterbacks they went through one through, eighteen And Jadan. DANIELS
i think someone chose him to be in their top.
Ten AND i could see the argument because when he was,
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healthy he was so. Good BUT i don't want TOO
i actually give more credence to a quarterback who was
terrible one, year Like Caleb, williams and then improved markedly
in the second. Year then a quarterback who came from
nowhere had an incredibly great. Year we've seen it with C.
J stroud and then there's. Regression SO i don't know
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what we're getting From Jaden daniels. Yet and SO i
do feel confident With Caleb williams and they're being progress
versus the jury is still out With Jadan. Daniels so he.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Burned us too, though right chat we both had our
top ten last year and we said they're going to
regress this.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Year he totally fell on his.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Space you can say you can blame all the injuries you,
want but when he was, playing he wasn't playing that well.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Either so that's WHY i didn't Have Drake. MAY i.
WENT i heard a lot From Drake may. Haters it's one.
YEAR i.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
NEED i can't keep doing this thing WHERE i buy.
Guys after one YEAR i. NEED i need to start
being more firm ON i need more time with. Guys
and again that goes back to my gill And hurts.
Argument five years as a five year, starter he's top
three in, touchdowns wins and rushing.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yards that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Matters it's like being healthy on the, field being, available it.
Matters So Jane, daniels me And, chatter no one's down
the talent. Level that's a great.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Point.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Chat it's, LIKE i JUST i can't even put him
over a guy Like Sam donald right. Now like it's
Just Sam donald is consistently available for his. Teams he's
played now multiple seasons from multiple different, teams doesn't miss.
Games that's that's. Important you see why that's. Important he
led his team to A Super. Bowl So Jade, Daniels,
yeah that's that's WHY i didn't hear too many people
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complain About that's definitely one in the back of my.
Mind now next, yearhere it's, like is that another guy
that we could see bounce back or is that just
a one one hit?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Wonder.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
YEAH i also liked in the Comments dak was getting
some love. Also oh and AGAIN i read all the.
COMMENTS i try to respond as many as. POSSIBLE a
lot of comments about our conversation in The odyssey and
whether or not we loved it too. Much for the,
RECORD i tried to be. CLEAR i thought the filmmaking
(08:01):
was incredibly. Ambitious i'm not sold on the. Story and
for the, record, also the person who wrote the translation
of The odyssey That Christopher nolan based based the movie
on thinks the movie is. Terrible so it's starting to.
Generate after sort of all the glory and love and you,
know deification Of nolan And Matt, damon starting to get
(08:24):
a little bit of a little bit of blowback on The.
Odyssey So i'm, excited.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know the.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Deal we need, doubters we need. Haters that's just part
of the.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Course, also one more comment WHICH i. Love the first
comment was someone, saying amidst all the media chaos in the,
WORLD i like That chad And simon will still be
doing the same show for however long they can do.
It AND i said in the, comments oh my, God
simon AND i just talked about this on the phone. Yesterday,
anyways keep the comments. Coming i'll be in. THERE i
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will be in. There. Listen we're doing part two of
our you, know annual eight, parts division by DIVISION nfl
betting preview moving into THE Afc south, today big big Topic. Simon,
Obviously Trevor lawrence wasn't on our. List some people asking about.
That can we See Liam cohen Take Trevor lawrence to
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the next? Level what the hell is going on WITH. Cj?
Stroud is he going to take a next? Step is
he going to further, regress It's Robert salad going to
save The. Titans is the window closed for The? Colts
setting the, table betting markets show a very even division
top to. Bottom houston win totals nine and a half
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minus one twenty to the Over jacksonville eight and a
half minus one forty to the over again from hard
rap Bat indianapolis Colt seven and a half minus one
thirty five to the Over tennessee minus six and a
half minus one ten on both. Sides all, Right Simon,
Hunter Houston. Texans this team did not start, strong and
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then they had a defense that did not quit and
a coach And Dimico ryans who keeps them playing at
a very high. Level and it is really a guy
that a lot of people would want to play. For
so they finish twelve and. Five they Crush Aaron rodgers
and The steelers in the wild card before Losing New
england in The divisional. Round, tough tough game for them
in The divisional round plus one twenty to win the.
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Division they are the favorites nine to one to win the,
conference twenty to one to win The Super. Bowl, LOOK
i think we need to have a conversation about The
jaguars on the upswing and The texans plateauing where is your?
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Head right?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Now It's Texans division easily to.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Win and that's If i'm putting my money highly invested
into a team in this, division it's got to Be.
Houston it's a team that's returned to all eleven other defensive.
Starters AND i, mean we we can talk anagement about.
It Demiko, ryans how smart he is defensive, mind the
talent they have, Defenses oh my, god they might have
two top, five top seven depending on your grades d
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ends for this, team Right and you know it's when
they Got, HUNTER i was, Like, okay that's that's a
good right because now they're gonna have one one one
of them is gonna one on one matchups on the.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Edges you saw last.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
YEAR i think they had both had double digit, sacks
like they were just so. Dominant and you, KNOW i
don't want to say he's lost all his, aura BUT. Cj,
STROUD i don't know if you saw that video of
him walking into camp the other, Day, chad and if
you have anyone out, there you need to go look it.
Up he looks like a seventh grader getting dropped off at.
School the way he, walks in his, style the way,
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yeah the, mannerisms it's so bizarre where it's, like what
has happened TO. Cj he does not have the swag
or the confidence or whatever it was that he had
after that first year.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Year oh my. GOD i hope he can find it because.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This is such a talented team and our questions are
the offensive. Line and this has been What. Chad, now
this is year four of us being, like we think
they have the, talent do they have the offensive? Line
and we've seen every YEAR cj has gotten worse since
that rookie. Year and that's just the accumulation of hits
and bad coaching in my, opinion. Offensively and you know,
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what Is David montgomery the answer for? THEM i think
he's gonna. HELP i do think he's gonna, help THOUGH
i know he's not the exact nits you're looking, for
but this is a veteran that's consistent and that's something
they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Need where their defense gives them short.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Fields that's what was so impressive last year was just
felt like every time they needed, to they had the
ball in their opponents thirty or. Forty BUT cj is
just settling for field. Goals he could not move or
advance the, ball and it was JUST i, MEAN i
don't pep remember their kicker felt like every game it
was getting like five field. Goals it was just bizarre
award where they just could not score offensively and that cost.
Him earlier the, year what they start owing, three chatter
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was owing. Four it was something crazy like. That and
they obviously turn it around and still made the, playoffs
but they didn't win their division because of.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It, right that's Why jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Did so just projecting, out we expect them to have
a better season they did last, year, right not to
start as. Poor the bringing back the eleven, STARTERS i
can't be banging people over the head enough about how
crazy that, Is like this is already a top three.
Defense the connuity now of having those guys back With demko,
again it's just it's all ON.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Cj so just value, WISE i like.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
IT i have them at eleven, wins so nine and a,
half no problem betting that over if you want to
divisionally their plus one twenty no issue betting that. Either
and we'll obtually get these other. Teams but it's just
it's all lined up For. Houston they're far and above to,
me the best team this. Division the question would be
their offensive line obviously IN. Cj but WHEN i look
at both those obstacles right, NOW i do think their
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their offense line is going to be better than it has
been years, previously which isn't saying.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Much, well, look that's where they put their that's where
they put their. Money and there's a lot of questions right,
now and there's been a lot of speculation during the.
Offseason did they do, enough did they pay attention to?
It it's not where it's not where anyone feels like
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it should be, yet but they did spend a first
round pick on. It Keelan rutledge from the guard From Georgia.
Tech they Added Braden smith from The, Colts they Added
Wyatt teller from The, browns they Added Evan brown from The. Cards,
like they're basically GIVEN cj a brand new offensive. Line
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so part of, that, okay they're. Recognizing part of that
is everyone knows how important it is for an offensive
line to be coordinated and play well. Together so was
that going to be a hindrance early in the, Year
and Again it's also about the. Offense they continue to
change offensive coordinators on this, team and how are they
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going to find an offense that plays To CJ's. Strengths
his ability to throw the ball down field was always
something that separated him and be accurate with those and
that's been getting increasingly. Worse like it's weird to be
thinking that we're talking ABOUT. Cj shroud as the reason
why this team might not win the, division but it
kind of is all on him at this. Point he
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is the difference between this team being a Super bowl
contender in an incredibly competitive conference and this team again
needed to rely, on you, know their field goal kicker
and their. Defense that's what it. Is that's.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It, Yeah and it's and like you, said IT'S. Cj
as they've gone tape on, him we said he's regressed
in many. Ways but that's that's the way the league, is,
Right they're going to keep attacking their strengths and try
to expose your. Weaknesses and we've seen that over the.
YEARS i mean that those playoff games Against pittsburgh And New.
ENGLAND i can't get that out of my. Mind that's
WHY i, mean you donhim in bad AND i think
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about him as a top ten, guys he's not even
a top fift, team maybe potentially top. Twenty he's played
that poor in such a, Games so huge year For
Cjing and obviously contract, wise they if you had done
what he needed to, do he had been paid right, Now,
yea he knows obviously what's going on as.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well so, yeah it's it's all there For. Houston it's
all up for.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Them AND i obviously love the fact they they won
the division last year because it helps them with an easier.
Schedule but we'll, see it's the way the league is
the new. Year it's there's not that big of a
difference between the two or the one in your. Division,
right instead of playing The, patriots they Played Josh. Allen
now like that that actually does kind of. Matter so,
yeah it's it's all there For.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
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Tennessee speaking Of, Florida Simon Jacksonville, Jaguars Liam, COHNE i
think we both both. Agree we love this. Guy, huge
Huge Liam cohne, Fans and one of our favorite conversation
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points last year Was Liam cohne's facial expressions When Trevor
lawrence made an, idiotic boneheaded, mistake or the way he
would not even Bailed Trevor lawrence out when it was
getting so late in the playclock and he was clearly
in the wrong play and was trying to get out of.
It Meeting Trevor lawrence And William cogan would not call
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a time. Out he would just be, like screw, You
we're taking the five yard. Penalty you're gonna come over,
Here i'm gonna yell at. You i'm going to explain
to you what you're supposed to, do and hopefully at
some point it gets into your pretty little. Head so
what happens this? Year they go thirteen and? Four last
year they win the? Division can they run it? Back
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Is Trevor lawrence? Smarter is this a team that has the? Talent, because,
LIKE i think their defense is pretty, good AND i
do think that like, offensively there are moments Where Trevor
lawrence is clearly the best quarterback in the. Division so
why DON'T i want to bet on this? Team?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, Right and it's a team that come into this,
YEAR i would shocked to see that.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They weren't the favorite Over.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Houston and maybe you could, say well that is because
the first best schedule and all, that but, yeah that
it's a team in the second half of the season
you could say they were probably the best team in.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
FOOTBALL i, mean That's.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
William cohen did last year to get this team turned
around was was, amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And they just were so well coached offensive by, like you,
know me And chad were Giving trevor with to ours
hard time because he looked like an. Idiot he looked
totally lost for the first six seven, weeks which that
makes sense in a new, offense but we were really
based on our opinion of How leean was treating, him like
how we both envisioned. That and obviously the second Half
trevor was what we've all expected to, be, right this
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number one, pick this guy who's you know when of
the top raighted players ever come out of high school
dominated college and then came to the league and in
that draft, class he's, only honestly the only one left.
Standing he really was a tier above everyone else in many,
ways and just watching him, play we see the.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Talent it's just so.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Inconsistent AND i Mean chad said their defense was improved last.
Year now to me that same. Thing they didn't improve
the offensive, line WHICH i thought was really. Interesting you,
know they have a ton of talent receiving, wise, right
we already know you Know. HUNTER i believe now they've
saying he's going to be a, cornerback WHICH i agree.
WITH i don't think they need another. Receiver they're they're
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good in that. Position but the fact that they're gonna
just what we took it from the get. Go there's
a reason there aren't two way players in this. League
the body can't hold. Up his first, season he didn't
even last and you can say that was a fluke,
injury but it's what we've been. Preaching it's just it's
different than college. Football this is grown men hitting you.
Consistently in this, league it's really hard to have your
body hold, up let alone taking hits and delivering. Hits thank,
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God hunter is now going to play one, position WHICH
i think is gonna better for The. Jaguars BUT i
think as a CORNER i much prefer him THAN i do.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
As wide, receiver especially folk work.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Wise so you, know the Reason i'm not crazy about
betting this team is just BECAUSE i do think they're
gonna have a. REGRESSION i do, think as WHICH i
Love Liam COB's. OFFENSE i think giving these other teams
an offseason a look at what they did With Trevor,
lawrence they're going to attack.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
That can he adjust that you know to be.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Seen but it's just WHEN i look at in this whole,
division who is the most dominant GROUP i do Put
houston way above everyone else with that. DEFENSE i just
think that is such a dominant. GROUP i know exactly
What i'm. GETTING i have too many questions still about
This jaguars, team not just, defensively you, know not that
they weren't lucky last, year but they had a lot
of bears to, them a lot of turnover luck where The,
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bears as bad as their defense might have, been what
was it a thirty three thirty five year old safety of, Yours,
CHAD i forget who it. Was we had like five,
PICKS i feel, like and it was like four games
in a. ROW a lot of things bounce their Way
bears wise. Defensively feels the same way with The. Jaguars,
now it's good, coaching, right putting your guys in the right.
Position but we talk all the. Time when you look
at those, charts you have to bet regression on certain
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sides of the, ball AND i think there will be
aggressing defensively on the turnover luck and. OFFENSIVELY i know
they're trying to say it's not a big deal los
an etn and have a two and step in, there
but that's gotta be somewhat of a DOWNGRADE i Mean
etn was a different player than. TWO i know tunes
run through your, type run through your face type of running,
back but he doesn't have the finest That etn. Had
so that's gonna be another adjustment that teams you have
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to make so they're right there With.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Houston.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
OBVIOUSLY i know professional betters that have to take a
position On jaguars just because you're getting plus two ten
plus two twenty f books right now, divisionally BUT i
think the books are telling themselves a little, bit. Right
that's such a huge delta between these. Two even THOUGH
i think public perceptions these teams are pretty close to each,
other well they're really. Not like my model has, Obviously
houston way above This jaguars.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Team So i'm not gonna fall for the.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
TRAP i MIGHT i might look a little towards the
over and their win totals as we get closer to the,
season just because this, DIVISION i mean we're Not we're
about to getting The colts into a. Minute it's just
it feels like there's ones they be have in this
division this upcoming. Year SO i don't hate, that but,
divisionally something is. OFF i just DON'T i don't trust
those odds at plus two. TEN i think they're trying
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to suck me in here on, this on This jaguars
team that their divisional.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Odds it is a very juicy number WHEN i look at,
it getting over plus two hundred on The jags in
a division they won last year with a coach that
we really believe. IN i agree with you about Etn
they also Lost Devin, lloyd who sort of had that
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career year at the exact moment he needed to have.
It he's. Gone we talked about that on THE Nfc south.
Episode what they really did was they just invested in
re signing some of their best. Players at the top
of that Is Travon. Walker they gave him one hundred
and ten million, dollars you, know former number one overall,
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pick the guy famously taken right Before Aden. Hutchinson and
he's been, good but not. DOMINANT i think what he's
really been is sort of a really good balance for
the other side of that defensive. Line so you've really
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got to believe In Trevor lawrence if you're gonna take
a shot at the plus two ten. Here that that's
what really gives me the biggest, pause BECAUSE i want
to take. IT i want to take it so. Badly
it just feels like too much of a, difference like you,
said between plus one twenty for The texans and plus
two ten for The, jaguars too, much too. Much they're begging,
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Me they're kind of begging me to do.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It it's a.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Trip that's Why i'm not going to do. IT i
didn't even make a note on. It i'm not going
to do. It you mentioned The colts what a bummer
right like they were crushing. It Daniel jones was on.
Fire you. KNOW i mentioned in THE qb episode quarterbacks
who were in top ten in BOTH epa per drop
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back and success, rate and the list included, illuminaries you,
know Like. Mattheword hold, ON i want to look at
the exact list here for a, second because it Was,
Stafford Drake, May Jordan love brought, party but also on that,
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List Mac, Jones Daniel. Jones Daniel jones didn't get a
sniff for top ten, quarterback even though if you had
asked anybody before he was injured last, year would he
have qualified as a top ten? Quarterback of, course because
he was playing at AN mvp. Level so they start
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off eight and two Finish you know what did they?
Finish eight and? Nine And i'm sorry they start off
six and? Two what was it eight and two or
six and? Two let me look at my.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Notes.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Two, yeah started eight and two and then they missed
the playoffs for the fifth straight. Season Sas, gardner they
give up their first round picks for. Him he was not.
Great Daniel jones is now recovering from a torn of
killes plus three seventy five to win the. DIVISI i
don't think this team got, Better, Simon like they added
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their biggest additions Were ard And, key a defensive end
from The titan offrom The, titans and they got rid
Of Michael pittman in favor Of Alec. Pearce it was now.
Injured this team did not get. BETTER i feel badly
for them BECAUSE i felt like they had a shot last.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Year, yeah and this feels like it's the year before the.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Year in my, opinion you Have Daniel jones coming off
a major, injury and this Isn't mahomes. Type this Is
Daniel jones coming off a major. Injury we don't expect
them to step right in and be an elite level.
Quarterback last year he was building to be an elite level, quarterback,
Right AND i mean.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
We made the running.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Joke i've never in my life ever had a team
hit my win, total which they. Weren't total was seven
and a. Half last, year the chat said they were
eight and. Two they hit their win total was the
end Of october or Early. November they didn't win another
game the rest of the. Year like you just it
just doesn't, happen, right and.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
The.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Sink, yeah the mentality of this, TEAM i JUST i
have major. Questions and in the, SEASON i MEAN i
Know manmacher was in our chests and With Chris, ballard
who he painally said he turned. Down he turned down
a contract to start the year because he wants to
win before signing a new. DEAL i feel like the
fans in the same boat as. Me they just they
need something different in. THERE i hope the owners listen
to their fans and they just as much as he's,
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TRIED i do not Fall. Chris he's every he's trying
to get a different. Quarterback remember that whole run we
had The Matt, ryan The Philip rivers every year trying
to find a. Guy Carson Wentz no one faults, him,
right it was just a lot to put on a
guy's plate After Andrew luck retired on them and they
just never found their. Way and last year was the
way they had the. TEAM i felt, like right they
had the. Offense you know that we're not even talking
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About Alex. Pierce how big of a deal that. Is
this kid might start in the pump like that's their
by far number one, receiver especially now they got rid Of.
Pittman you, know it's just it feels like next year
we'll be all.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
In on The.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Colts that's honestly HOW i feel, like get Get Daniel jones.
BACK i know he's trying to rush back right.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
NOW i hate.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It it's, like, dude you had an achilles. Tear you're
a mobile. Quarterback please take your. TIME i, mean as
you don't want to See Anthony richardson going there and
potentially steal your. JOB i think we think most of
us agree you're. Safe like that, kid he's just not
gonna figure out like. That what he needs to figure
out is going to take years to figure. Out SO
(29:19):
i just from my, standpoint how do you bet anything
into their Over everything on this team screams. Under it
just not from a season from, hell because they still have, talent,
right they still Have Jonathan taylor And Tyler warren on,
offense and if it Is Anthony, RICHARD i Think shane
sticking about was scheming. Up this is one of the
great best schemers. EVER i, mean we've seen what he's
done and since he's been in The, colts he always
(29:40):
finds a way to make get the most of the
talent he has an. Offense But chad said it like
they didn't really add much, right because they're kind of
handcuffed because they just tried to go so. Big The
Sauce gardner trade might be one of the worst trades,
Ever like giving up multiple first round picks for that,
guy and we've seen the trademark and other. Players you,
know would you rather have him Or Miles. Garrett it's
not even the, contest so it, is and it's tough
(30:04):
with This colts. TEAM i want to be, POSITIVE i
want to like, them BUT i could easily see them being.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Fourth place in this division this.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Year it's it's going to be really close to than
The tennessee and it doesn't feel like it's. Them but this
feels like a five win. Team if you have a
quarterback coming back to early off. INJURY i think it's
going to lack a lot of confidence in the locker
room and that's just going to great. Turmoil Where as
much AS i respect shanstike, AND i don't know if
you can overcome all that. Drama and you, know this
is going to be a tougher. Division it's be interviewous
(30:30):
years like That Jaguars houston. Team you, know as much
as we like to think The colts can split it with,
THEM i could easily see both those teams sweeping This colts.
Team so it's it's dark right now for my view
on This colts team's upcoming.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Season what a bad run For Indianapolis Sports Dance june
of what year was? It twenty twenty? Five Tyris halliburton
has an epic, run taking The pacers to the final
tearr's his. Achilles The colts come out looking like world
(31:06):
beaters eight and. Two shane steiken finally gets to be
in his. Bag we both Love Shane. STEIKEEN i think he's.
AMAZING i think what he's done with that, team various,
quarterbacks you, know transitioning NonStop From Anthony richardson To, Gardner
minshew To Daniel, jones like he has found ways to
make that team, competitive really, impressive, stock really Stoic Daniel,
(31:29):
Jones tarr's his. Achilles they go all in For Sauce
gardner and it all falls, apart so now they don't
have draft. Picks, meanwhile The Indiana pacers they goll in
for the center from The clippers whose NAME i can't
remember or pronounce appropriate properly right, now and they give
(31:51):
up the chance to get one of the four players
coming out of college basketball this year in the draft
because they lose their lottery position with the trade they
made with The. Clippers that is just an epically bad
run in lacking new talent and your best players tearing.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Achilles you got from, me you Got signetti and The.
Hoosiers you're gonna be, Fine.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Indiana, well you know it's. FUNNY i was In indie
last week and my uber driver we were, talking and
all we did was talk about THE iu football. Team
he was in the playoffs last. YEAR i went to
the playoffs last. Year it was so freaking. Glorious most
(32:38):
people could probably see THE iu wins poster over my.
Shoulder but that's. True we did Get indiana. Football it's
too bad for The colts and The. Pacers, THOUGH i
THINK i might be the only one who cares about
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Speaker 1 (35:01):
Simon the team that we have been completely misaligned with
for the past two, seasons The Tennessee. Titans when it
was time to bet against, them we couldn't do. It
we wouldn't do it when it was time to bet on.
Them we couldn't do. It we wouldn't do. It this,
(35:24):
year it's a brand new. Ballgame robert sala is the new.
Coach brian Dave ball is the new offensive coordinator after
his stint with The. Giants Gus, bradley longtime defensive coordinator
former head, coach is now the defensive coordinator for The Tennessee.
Titans Cam. Ward we saw a lot of potential with Cam.
(35:44):
Ward they finished three and fourteen plus eight hundred to
win the, division sixty to one to win The, conference
one hundred and fifty to one to win The Super.
Bowl here's WHAT i thought was. Interesting so they Got
Carnel ta From Ohio state in the first. Round they
also Drafted Keldrick fall From auburn on the. Edge they
(36:07):
Gave Jeffrey simmons a massive new, deal their biggest wide
receiver free, agent Signing Wandale. Robinson Brian daball favorite with The.
Giants they signed Former Jet John Franklin myers to a big,
deal and they traded for Former Jet Jermaine. Johnson Is
robert solid just trying to reconstitute The New York jets
(36:28):
in the middle Of. Nashville what is happening.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
HERE i love our.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Fans we talked way too much for the. HONESTY i
had someone dam me a meme of when we mean
you were going to talk About, tennessee and it's Of
Matt damon tied to the bow of the, ship screaming
when the sirens that it should honestly be me And
Chad we should be just screaming at top of our,
lungs tied to the, bows not able to swim away
Toward Tennessee, titans who we.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Love, yeah it's so.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
TRUE i am tempted here plus eight hundred to win the.
Division i'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
LIE i did place a little bet because we talked
all the time about the new coach bump and the
year two. Bump, right DO i really believe Cam wore
is gonna take this giant? Step, no because he just
had a lost. Season but the potential is. There we
see time to top again in THE. Nfl like the
talent level these quarterbacks is so. High if you can
just get it in between before these defense can figure you,
(37:18):
out you can steal a. Season that's just how it
is in this, league where it's, like well.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Look At Drake may and look At Kayla, Bipes yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Exactly it's, like but any of us had seen them
becoming the one and two seeds last? Year no or
two seeds for both. Divisions, no it's you know the.
Conferences you just don't see these things. Coming so WHY
i look at this, Team it's LIKE i still see major,
holes major.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Weaknesses can solid correct that stuff on? Defense? Sure? Offensively
is Is tate really gonna be that? Guy you?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Know Is pollard gonna be the number one back that
they need to step up and be a workhorse for
them because you can't put it all On.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Cam we saw last year right.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
With cam how many bets do we Lose shad in
the final three minutes of the fourth quarter because cam
or tried to do too Much and we don't fault
them for that a rookie making rookie. Mistakes But, SALA
i don't, know if you watch A tv, show it
felt like they were very gentle to him last. Year
Cam Ward sala is not that. Guy SALA'S i think
he's gonna be in his face being, like you're losing me,
(38:13):
games were costing me. Games i'm not gonna waste my
time in another quarterback like this like this really would
be a true test here to me for Cam. Ward
maybe they give him another year after, this but the
draft class is so good. Upcoming if they're number, two
number three pick on this upcoming, draft it would be
really hard at A gm to pass on this draft.
Class as much AS i love Cam ward AND i
think he's a ton of, talent you just have to
(38:35):
do what's best for.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Organization that's restart.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Over AND i really do think Cam they've supported, Him
they've put pieces around. Him will the offensive line be
better than it was last? Year they need to, be
because he was too much pressure in his face. Consistently
and you, KNOW i look at this team WHERE i
can SEE i can see the talent. There and If
salad does come in and changes this whole mentality, team
(38:58):
there is something to boat off of. It AM i
gonna tell people ON ourt that listen to this that
bet this team Over. Houston. NO i have much more
faith In. Houston better, value in my, Opinion houston a
lot of that. Stuff SO i JUST i think the
numbers too. BIG a plus eight hundred is too. BIG
i have a plus six. Hundred the numbers thrown off too.
MUCH i think The colts is getting too much love
(39:18):
from the sports, book AND i think that's, why in my,
opinion you're getting free value here this on This tennessee.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Team they're not gonna be as bad as they were last.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Year i'm telling you, guys it's just as much as we, think, well,
okay maybe they'll steal one or two games that they
didn't steal last. YEAR i agree with that, sentiment BUT
i think you know what are they had six. Wins
that's where their win totals this. Year six and a.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Half, yeah six and a. HALF i could see.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Him getting the seven or eight. Wins.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Chat it's just that big of a BUMP i think
From salah and Cam. Ward SO i am highing this.
Team what in this division, Though it's just you need
so many things to break your. Away you need a
lot of things go wrong In, houston not only injury,
luck but you need their defense to follow up part
and then we've already talked nowage about The. Jaguar and you,
know even if they regress a little, BIT i still Think,
(40:03):
liamp you get that team to ten, Wins Like that's
how good of a COACH i Think Liam cohen. Is
so it's just it's hard for me to see this
team be a playoff team to win this. Division but
if you want to take their win, TOTAL i don't hate.
THAT i can see them getting seven or eight. Wins it's,
just you, know for me to be all on The titans,
Team i'm gonna wait another. Year i'm gonna be patient,
here But i'm excited the fact that they did go
get a new. Coach they are trying to support Cam,
(40:25):
ward and it's it's it's what you want to see,
organizationally if you're a fan of The Tennessee, titans it's
it feels like it's the year before the.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Year the parallels now THAT i think about, it between
The Bears Ben, Johnson Caleb williams and The Patriots Mike,
Rabel Drake may and The Titans Robert Sala Cam mooard are, interesting,
(40:51):
right new, coach new, energy second year quarterback who showed
flashes opportun unity to. Improve, now if you and you,
know The bears got, lucky, right they had great sort
of fortuitous opportunities Between Michael parsons getting injured and The
(41:15):
lions offensive line being in shambles AND jj McCarthy not
being the answer and The patriots had a really great
run with their schedule and some tough losses by The.
Bills so you, know if you both.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Played the fourth base schedule, right chat someone youkognoledge, about
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Matter it doesn't. Matter like if you squint you can see. It.
Now the difference, is Is Robert Salad Ben, Johnson, like
is that a? Match? No Is Robert thalid that he
have the same kind of success In aura That Mike
rabel had before he went To New. England, No so
it's not a perfect, comparison but superficially it's. There and
(41:54):
then it's like you got to believe That Brian dayball
can do for Cam ward what a lot of people
allege he did For Josh, allen and that's how we
ended up getting The giants. Job now you could also
say didn't really do that much in the. End was
he that great of a? Coach we don't. Know so
there's also ways in which the comparison completely falls. Apart
but IF i were doing, THIS i would take the
(42:16):
flyer on the plus eight. HUNDRED i would not take
the flyer on over their season win to just better,
value like take a little bit smaller taste and have
a little more.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Upside, yeah and our dream scenario would be it's week,
sixteen seventeen And tennessee's a game Behind houston and we
can find a position.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Aheage SO i totally. Agree that's WHY i threw a
little on the plus eight Hun.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
DREDGES i Bet houston plus one to twenty didn't touch
The jaguars didn't touch the cold. Type put a little
bet on This tennessee. TEAM i just think when you
had the same mentality that new coach year two quarterback.
Bump it sounds crazy here In, august but you know
it just happens time and time again in THE.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Nfl little little tiny. Taste all, right, listen THAT'S Thefc south.
Preview we're gonna continue with our next. Episode we're doing
THE Nfc, west coming out On. Thursday this has Been Sharper,
square part of The volume podcast. Network watch or listen
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