In a SPECIAL EDITION of the Daniel Cormier Show, DC sits down with PADDY "The Baddy" PIMBLETT ahead of his massive fight against Benoit Saint-Denis at the UFC's International Fight Week on a card that features Conor McGregor and Max Holloway! Pimblett breaks down why he'll beat Benoit convincingly on Saturday night. Hear Paddy give his hilarious reaction to Justin Gaethje defeating Ilia Topuria at UFC Freedom 250 and go off on Ilia "QUITTING" in the corner. Plus, hear Pimblett's incredible story of how he started pro MMA at such a young age in Liverpool and why his relentless confidence has made him the superstar he is today. And don't miss Paddy talk about his Baddy Foundation, his uncle playing for Aston Villa, and DC's $1,000 LOSING BET with Paddy Pimblett on the World Cup!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Now that's a total power move. Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
A guy that is looking to make a power move
this weekend is Patty Pimblet. He went from being a
guy that fought in Liverpool to one of the most
recognizable faces and personalities in the UFC. He has built
a massive following while proving he belongs amongst the best lightweights.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But what makes this conversation special is that I'm not
gonna just talk to him about the fight this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We're gonna talk.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
About the journey that got him from Liverpool to here,
the pressure that he carries on his back by carrying
that city with him, dealing with the criticism that he's
had to deal with throughout his career, and how he's
balanced the spotlight with the expectations that come with it. Obviously,
we're gonna talk about the matchup with ben Wile san Deni,
what he learned from his last fight, his beloe that
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he could still become a UFC champion, life outside the octagon, family, fatherhood,
and why he believes that his best days are still
ahead of him today. We don't only get the fighter,
we don't only get the entertainer. We get the family man,
and we get the man himself. Guys, I want you
to welcome into one and only Batty Patty Pimley.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Patty, thank you for joining me with my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Hey, you know, we're trying to polish you up a
little bit. You know, Hey, you look different. I saw
you in Hungary for the Champions League final. You don't
even look like the same guy.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
A lot of people say stuff like that, everybody. Yeah,
just consistent diet, you know what I mean. Gott thea.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
When we were talking in the bus ride on the
way back to the hotel which you so kindly dropped
me off at dinner to go meet how beaving him,
you were talking about what the training camp was gonna
look like, and you were so fired up about the
work that you had ahead of you, Like, how do
you prepare yourself mentally for that?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Obviously this one was easy to prepare for mentally because
I lost my last fight. Yeah know what I mean?
I got beat and when you lose, you've got the
most motivation. You've had a lot to come back and win.
There was an easy one to get motivated for, so.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Patty, we got to start like I always try to
start these interviews with the beginning, right.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Liverpool is not an easy place.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You told me to watch a documentary whenever I was
leaving about that World Cup team or the Premier League team,
World Cup, no Champions League team from back in the
day with Jamie Carrigan, all those guys, and they.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Spoke about Liverpool.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Liverpool's not a easy place to grow up. What was
that like for you growing up there?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I just I love my city, you know what I mean.
I totally enjoyed growing up there. For I can't see
a lot of people that think it will be odd.
You know, there's quite a few deprived areas. But my
little lady and opening it was quite nice. But wasn't
it wasn't not unsatable. I enjoy it going off. I
enjoyed school, Well I didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well they did you enjoy You were gonna say you
enjoyed school, but you didn't like school?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Pat When you look back now, you miss it, you
know what I mean? It's mid because when you're younger,
you wish the years away. When you're older, you wish
the years bach. But yeah, I didn't really like school
getting told what to do people, You know what I mean, Like,
it's just it wasn't what I was about.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
How could you recognize that at such a young age
I did. I mean, they're trying to teach you, Patty,
They're not telling you what to do.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, I had to teach you. What told me to
stop doing mm because it was too small?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But why you know what's weird about that?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So many times when you're growing up in these types
of situations as a young person and you dream big,
the people around you, because they are confined to where
they're from, they tell you that you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I always tell.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
People that I'm Like when I was training for the
Olympic Games and I said I'm gonna be Olympic champion
about it in Louisiana, was like, this, dude is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You're crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You're crazy, And then all of a sudden they see
me at the Olympic Games. I'm I was always willing
to be crazy to give myself a chance.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
When did you realize that you had that ability?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
For everybody around you to maybe not think as big
as you did.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I always have big dreams. Like one thing I always
say is if people don't laugh at your dreams, then the
not big enough. You know what I mean. People should
be laughing at when you say I'm gonna do this,
I'm gonna do that, because if the nod and it's
just normal.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But why why do you think that? Why do you
think it's like that?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I don't know. I always said, like the Sooners, I
have me fast fighting got me I raised. I was like,
this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be a
UFC world championis I thought it's sixteen. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So you have an older brother, Yeah, right, that can
be tough. I had an older brother too. I mean,
how was that growing up with you?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Chris Weidman's older brother was a nightmare. He would beat
the shit out of him, to the point that Chris
would Chris would sing this song like U a tank
engine that would give him courage to make him go
and fight.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But what how was it growing up with your brother?
I guess he would beat you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Up now and then Yeah, because there was a big gap.
Betwens thought he was like five and a half years
older than me, so we didn't get into many fights,
but normally when we did, he'd beat me up because
he was so much bigger than me.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And what did you do?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I always full apoking on I man and have another
bouncer quit in me. I keep going no matha, wah, yeah,
you'll probably see that now. Still let me fight in
Star Helica.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Isn't it amazing though, that even in those moments where
it's not supposed to be that, like, you show that
thing that's inside of you that makes you a fighter.
Like I used to get bullied when I was a
kid and I wouldn't fight back until eventually I did,
And when I did, I never stopped fighting. I never
stopped fighting back and I never stopped fighting even when it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Turned into my career.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But isn't it amazing that you developed these things unknowing
that ultimately would define you in the career that you've
not chosen.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, definitely, you don't. You don't even realize that things
are molding. You're into your futureself when you do it.
But when you look back now, you realize, oh my god, yeah,
that was that was making me the person I am today.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know you talked about your dad will be here
at the end of the week to watch you fight
your parents.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Like our parents teach you so much.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Is there something that you can look back on from
your upbringing that your parents.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Told you that you still carry.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The day me Dad's just always had. So they both
believed in me, like you know me and from day one,
and I said I was going to do this even
though you didn't even know what MMA was. But since
day one, my dad's a total belief in me, you
know what I mean, having me to wolver Amson and
to Newcastles and Manchester, to the Grapplin's ornaments, and then
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he's the only person who's never missed a fight, like
being at every single thing I've ever done. And he's
literally always supposed to me no matter what me. But
my mum's only ever come to one fight and I lost,
so she is never invited again.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Was that enough?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Like that belief from your parents, even though all the
outside might have been like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
This is too much for you.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Did that belief of your parents knowing or believing in you,
Is that enough to kind of counter everything else that
was coming from the outside.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah. The only people's opinions. Who really matter are the
ones who actually cared about you. It'll affect them, you
know what I mean? All these souls and haters online
can say what he wants for not un that they
shay or do will ever affect my life? Well, me
mom and dad, me wife, mean family, be close friends,
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all them people, They actually affect my life and what
happens in my life. So I'll take advice from them
and be catiticism from them. But other people on the outside,
I won't. I won't really be bothered. I'm used to
it now. A lot of people are being commenting on
my stuff since I was sixty and giving me shit.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's crazy for such a young age. At fifteen, you
walk into that gym, were you nervous or did you
feel confident that you were in the right place. I
know you said you did grappling and all those things,
but were you nervous? I remember my first wrestling practice.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I was so scared. I had no idea what was
gonna happen to me. I thought I was would do
what Rick Flair did. I really thought I was going
in to do what Ric Flair did.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But it was wrestling. But I was so nervous, but
I fell in love on day one. Like, how'd you
feel walking into an MMA gym for the first time.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, I've never done anything before. I've done a little
bit of boxing when I was about ten for a
couple of weeks and then, as I said, I just
watched the fight at UFC Fights on YouTube and was like,
I need to try this. And then when I walked
in the gym, I just fell in little b as
soon as I done them first couple of sessions on
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the See sessions in one night, and I was like, yeah,
this this is what I'm want to do. And it
was weird when you just find your call and that
was what I've done.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But what did what did that feel like?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like, what did that feel like to you? Where you're like,
in what moment do you go? This is me?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because while while wrestling became my uh, defining thing, there
were a lot of times I was like I don't
know if I want to do this ship man, like
it just sucks, But like when did when did you know?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like, man, this is the first day. What did it
feel like? Like I'm just home?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, I was more nervous walking in because I couldn't
find the place. It was on the fourth floor, and
I had to bring Paul, who's now my coaches, like
meet me uncle. I had to bring him saying I
can't find that way it is and he's like loo loo.
I was like, oh, made the made the right. No
better than myself here. I took a little hope and
go up in a lift. But yeah, I didn't feel
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nervous getting on the mat, nothing like that, Like I'd
feel nervous to doing anything else. But I think it's
just it's what I'm meant to do, so I didn't
feel nervous doing it. You.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I said that people have been commenting on your stuff
since you were sixteen years old. It's easy to comment
on someone's stuff negatively when at sixteen years old they
say I'm gonna be a world champion.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You said that at such a young age you had
made the determination. But with that, with that expectation comes pressure.
Did you ever feel pressure when you made that statement
in that interview that you would be able to do
what you say that you were going to do.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, of course you always have pressure, especially the positions
that we put ourselves in. We we bring pressure on
we invite it. You know what I mean? Well, as
the saying goes, pressure makes Domonds wouldn't be where I
am today. It's made me the past I am.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
How do you deal with that pressure?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I don't know. To be honest, I'll just take happy,
enemy strive. Paul always says to me, wanted me be
best thoughts of you. Probab me best thoughts of you.
There's me confidence, Yeah, because I'll be honest, I don't
know where I got it from, but I am so
confident and it probably is the best thing that I
have because in my head, I don't think anyone can
be me.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You're a twenty one year old kid right in sixteen,
I'm gonna be a world champion. Early twenties I started
thinking about maybe walking away. What was that lightwood brought
about that decision?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It was before me twenties. To be honest, I think
I was eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But why I was?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I was four and one pro and I just went
making enough money just financial. Yeah, I wasn't paying the bills.
I was having to do other stuff on the side,
and the hustle to stay in the gym and training,
you know, what I mean. And as I say, luckily enough,
I've got a coach like Paul, and he gave me
a job in the gym, and I started the enemy
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money in the gym, doing Pete privates and helping him
with training and doing bits of cleaning and stuff like that,
and without dying, never know, I might even be here.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But so he was the one that talked to you
his names, like you cannot stop doing this?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Stuffed doing this? How cold you gonna be? You calm
through this? If you did it, it will be a waste
of solence. And that's one thing that Dodd's always said
to me that I'll never figure. There's nor westing this
well than a waste of solence.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh, it's the worst, Like I see it constantly. You
know what's the worst when you're when you're growing up
with someone.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
One of my friends told me the other day, he goes,
you weren't the most talented guy in the neighborhood, and
I was like kind of offended. I was like kind
of offended a little bit, but he said, you you
were the one that was able to stay disciplined. Because
I know there are so many distractions in our youth
where we can kind of flutter off and go in
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the wrong direction. But I see so many guys now
hoop dreaming. They call it hoop dreaming, where they're still
on the basketball court at night shooting, telling people I'm
going to the NBA, I'm gonna get a college scholarship,
And I'm just so lucky that I didn't waste that.
I didn't waste that because I didn't work hard enough.
So I can't imagine how thankful you are for your
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coach for not allowing you to waste and your father
right for giving you the right type of lessons.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But me, uncle did all the good. He played for
Austin Villa's first really when he was sixteen, played for
the first team at on field against Liverpool.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Shut up Patty and his debut and so what happened?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He was big drink cab woman and just falling off,
you know what I mean. And he was spoke about
is the next big thing in English football. Dad always
says when some players come on to tell he couldn't
lace your uncle's boots?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Really, yeah, and how was your uncle today? Like does
he tell the story of Patty? I love that you
stuff with that now he died.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
He died last year. He lived in Ustaia though I
only met him like twice. Really well, every single person
who ever mentions him, it was just like do you
understand how good he was a football? Know what I mean?
Like I'm just always like, wow.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Did your did your like did your dad talk to
you about that when you were thinking about walking away?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Like, dude, your uncle was you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah? We thought sawing me all about it. He said,
you can't, you can't waste the talent. That was the
main thing. They just always sticks to me. Yet that
he said, life, there's non wayst don't wasted silence. We've
already odd one in this family. We don't need ane
at all.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Your uncle at sixteen plays at anfield against Liverpool, Like
that's a dream country, especially for someone that likes football.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now like me, I'm not as.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm not a I didn't realize how much of an
expert you were at football until we were at the
Champions League. But every young guy sits there and goes,
I want to make the first team and I want
to play at anfield. I want to play at DM reates,
I want to play in these big stadiums. You got
the call to come to the UFC and you said, no,
you didn't rush. How did you have that confidence that
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it would still happen if it didn't happen now, And
what gave you the mindset to know maybe now is
not my time.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, obviously the close people around me, me managing me, coach.
And at the time when I was twenty one and
I first got asked, I was still a baby like
I was. If you look at pictures of me from
when I won the Cage Whardiers featherweight belt, I was
very small, but I was still grown. And then when
I got asked the second time, I'd only just moved
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up to light weight and my body was I was
twenty three. Bo I was still a baby. Only mean,
if you look at me body, I never had no traps,
never had no muscle Like if you look at my
debut pitcher to me picture now, I look completely different.
And it's because I wasn't that professional back then. I
only started lifting weights in like twenty twenty. Really, yeah,
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before then all was used to there was like sacreds
for me for me, s and c. Where I started
lifting weights, and I've put so much muscle mass on,
so much muscle, and that's why I've now grew in
to one of the biggest lightweights, where even if I
would have said yet to the second offer off the UFC,
I would have been one of the smallest lightweights. So obviously,
waiting and coming on the third offer it was the
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best thing I ever done. But I'd like to tell
younger fighters that because younger fighters now just rushed to
the UFC.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yes, that's what.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I was saying, and the get beats and then they're gone,
and then they're gone, and then the dreams are over.
Where if you would have just waited, got a couple
more fights in and then went to the UFC, you
would have had a much better standard and chance of staying.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But in cage waters, in cage warriors, are you making
enough money there to make that type of.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Decision or like I was?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, personally I was, But how do you like because
that's hard man.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Everybody wants to get to the mountain top.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Like I don't know that I could have said no,
even though I had done all the things that I
had done prior, because of the draw of the UFC.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, when I, as I said, when I got off
of the first UFC contact I got off of the
new contact of Cage Audios, and I was getting paid
a lot more off Cage really start in contact with
the UFC, and then the second time I was still
getting the same wage off Cage what he is, but
would have been the start and contact off the UFC,
and I did end up just getting a start in
contact off the UFC ten and ten, twelve and twelve.
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Bo I don't already built enough money up from me
Cage Audio's money to sacrifice that and to go for
that knowing that once I have one fight and I
speak on the mic, I will get a big sponsorship.
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Is there something you've done that you're like extremely proud of?
I when I was researching it said, you made a
big check, you paid off a mortgage. I remember buying
my mom a house in my hometown. Yeah, I was
so happy, but I could not wait to give her
the keys, right, Like, what's the one thing that you've
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done that you're just so extremely proud of? Since you've
been able to make the money that you've made the.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
First thing it did when I was twenty one was
payoff my mom's mortgage. You know what I mean as
a kid. Yeah, well basically I was only twenty one. Yeah,
well I just got she didn't have that much left
on what I mean, it wasn't like a big extravagant amountable.
I helped paid that off, and I helped my sister
got a new kitchen.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's kind of crazy though, Like it's like sometimes people go, Patty,
remember you call all that shit down before, and we'll
talk about all that a little bit later. But it
seems like you were so much more mature at a
younger age than so many of us. When I was
twenty one years old, bro, I was at Oklahoma State
going absolutely bunkers. I could not have paid off my
mom's morgan if I would have made money out of
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Jordan's shoes.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I wasn't mature then. Yeah. I didn't mature till I
was about twenty five, you know. After I had a
few bad stints around when I lost fights in cage,
but as well, I was going out partying too much
of people went me. The women made to you mp
me proper makes on of me, and I grew up
with because all my mates sugar come on the weekend.
I've I've been made with them since primary school and
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infant school. I've been made to de since I was five,
six seventies and then some of them from senior school
started at eleven. All my mates to it. It would
be properly mates. I'm tight, knits were close, you know
what I mean. And we've been made since babies.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The one thing about people from Liverpool is they take
a lot of pride in that city. They you guys
love your city, from the football club to the city
the people, you guys love it. You got to defend
your championship or win the championship there? Does that still
stack up as one of the biggest moments of your
career even though you have done some of the big
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things that you've done now in your career.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Definitely winning the belts in the local arena in front
of like twelve to thirteen thousand people whatever it was,
everyone was there to watch me. That was a special
feeling that you know, hopefully one day we can fight
in on field and I can win a fight there,
and now me and Mobile and I'll be the Frenchman.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well yeah, come full circle.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You finally take the UFC's offer and I remember being
at your first fight Patty and uh, you kind of
look like Owen Heart. It was a wrestler, and I
was like, it kind of looks like oh and hard
as you were fighting, and you went like, hey.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's one thing to say.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I know, if I fight and get on that microphone,
I'm gonna make people pay attention.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But you actually did it. What do you remember about
that night?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It was in the Apex, right like in the Apex
getting ready, went all this hype and expectation because dude,
people had polished you up before you even got there.
So few guys get that before they make their debut
and deliver.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
What do you remember about that night?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But it wasn't even the nights. It was the Dalue,
wasn't it? Because it was it was the afternoon ABC.
It was a COVID show. We have to We were
still in a hotel for the whole week. We couldn't leave.
That was my fast expedions in Vegas. Bollm a Molly
fighting before me, and that a thing I thought. All
I opened up the main card or I was second
fights on the main car, but I just properly enjoyed it.
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I love fighting and it was probably payfect that he
caught me with a big punch and then knocked them
out because it made the fight better, It made it
more thrillering for everyone to watch. It's better than just
going out there and steamrolling someone and thirty seconds I
comes at I give the audience a little bit of
suspense and then obviously I grabbed the mic and said
a few things and everything just went bananas.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But you just knew. You just knew that it was
a game. But did you did you expect it to
become what it became? The fame?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah? Really, that's why I've I've always took her all
in my stard I always knew this was going to happen.
I always knew Superstar and was gonna come. I don't
know why I just started in the back of me
man that I knew. I knew that all this was
going to happen. And that's why I still say to
this day, even though just Engage you beat me for
the Internet title, I know I'm going to be USC
Lightwick Champion, and know for the fuck.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know, stardom in superstardom is something that's very hard
to come by. I had to defend that belt so
many times for people to start going okay, well, buy
into what he's doing. Unless I fought John Jones and
one of those other guys, you've not only become a
great fighter, almost a champion, fall for the belt already,
but you've got them both.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Like it doesn't happen for me where they get both.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You knew you could fight, you say you knew you
could become a star in this thing, But is it
hard to manage? Like when you're in Liverpool going out
and about as the superstar Patty pimblet while you're still
trying to just get to training.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
To be honest, it's off normal in Liverpool now, Like
I just said, when the belts it's twenty one on cage.
What he Isn't I blew open Liverpool then? Anyway, I
don't think that's why I got to add to myself
a little bit because I was going out posting all
the time and people want us to know me and
this and and I got a little bit of adding myself,
Like at that point when I was like twenty two,
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I needed to lose. I needed to bring back down's away. Yeah,
and it's modd when you look back now, because I
wouldn't be the person I'm on the position I'm in.
If I didn't fall off then to build myself back up,
I would have got in the UFC and without losing
the bells capt winning fights. I might have had a
crazy fall off like make did a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
But he did so much before right like and I
think like he almost laid the blueprint for a guy
like you to be able to come in here and
do what you've what you've done. But with that, right
with the personality and with the following, everybody wants to
doubt you, like they're really Patty's got easy matchups. They're
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giving him the best fights to make him get to
where they want him to go. Why why do people
still doubt Patty Pimblet That's slot.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I've been dealing with that since I was sixteen years
of age fighting amateur in a local venue in Liverpool.
That'll just be me for the rest of my career,
you know what I mean. I'll bet everyone's saying BSD
is gonna beat me and he's a killer. I'll beat
him and they'll be like, oh, he wasn't good anyway.
I'll go and be Tom and it'll be like because
the only wrestling doesn't have anything else, you know what
I mean? Beats Ilia Ilia was too small, you know
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what I mean? That's that's just the way I'm used
to it. That's my kiddy. People put dom me achievements,
but I'm not asked.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Do you do you like proving people wrong?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Oh yeah, It's like one of the things that gets
me out about every morning. Really why Because I just
love saying to people, I told you so. You told
me I couldn't do this. I told you I could.
I love proving people wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's a it's a it's a great thing. Oh man.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I remember when I fought Anthony Johnson. I beat him
the first time. I went to the rematch as an
underdog again. It was so fulfilling afterwards because then you
just could talk to you to people in their face.
It's like you can literally tell them how great you are.
They can't say nothing in that moment. Eventually, don't go, boy,
you lost to this guy, or you did this, this
and the other. But in that moment they have to
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acknowledge that you actually did what you s you're gonna do.
It is literally the best thing ever because everybody's a genius.
Everybody knows everything online, so when you get the opportunity
to shut them up, that has to be nice.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
But I talked about.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They always point back to someone that got you. I
want to talk to you about that justin Gaegee fight,
because we sat down before that fight, and as you
always are, you were very confident that you were going
to win that fight. Was there something surprising that happened
in there?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And what did that fight teach you about about Patty Pimbler?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It didn't teach me any and I didn't know that.
You know, it's almost everyone else on the outside. I
always knew that no matter walked someone, it was not me.
I'm not gonna stop. I'm gonna keep fighting and keep
coming forward. Hit me on the chin of thousands tunds
if you want, I'm still gonna keep coming forward. Just
like the end of the fifth round, I'm not gonna stop.
And it showed me not a knew day anyway, but
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that I can be in there with someone at a
high level for five rounds and all my own And
obviously it gave me even more motivation when he beats
Illy here the other week, because yeah, people were saying
that he didn't stand the chance and Imber saying to
him the pest lot, I think Justin's gonna beat him.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You said that before the fight, you were one of
very few. What gave you the confidence that he could
get that done?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Because I know I could beat Illy, hadn't Justin beat me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well what did you what did you take from that fight? Actually,
while we're talking about that, like when you watch Ilia
and Justin fight, like obviously you said he was gonna win,
but were you surprised by the way that he did it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
That's just a Justin gageyesque fight, isn't it. That's why
he's your favorite fighters, favorite fight a lot. Yeah, everyone
loves Justin Gagey. You know, even though he beat me.
I'm still a fun simple as that, And it was
just great to see that little bit quitz in the
But he didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Quit, Patty. But he did not quit Patty.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Chris No, No, his corner who stopped the fight because
it sounded like someone.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Said we finished the fight.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
He quit.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Somebody said he we finished the fight, and he quit.
You think he quit.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
If my coach says to me we finished the fight,
I don't know. We finished the fight. We're going We're
going out there end of Ye, we're not quitting on
the stool. We're not bitches, we're fighters. Can't sit there,
no mass, no mass.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You heard him prepared. You didn't hear him say that.
I don't would. Why do you just like, why do
you dislike him so much?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Because he's fake? He's so fake load, everything's just all
stated seen him behind the scenes that he's the fakest pace.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You've seen him behind the scenes. And he's not that.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Illiat the boy faith loud, he's a he's an actor.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, it's so funny. So you've found a lot of
joy in that.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, oh yeah. I celebrated watching just and Win and
I did. I was so happy and it gave me
even more motivations because it was on a Sunday night,
wasn't it. Yeah, So what I do to watch the UFCS.
I have my phone on doing not to stay. I
remember you telling me this, and I get up at
like six seven am to watch it because I don't
want to room sleeping pattern and I've done that and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So your breakfast morning morning.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Monday morning, I was watching that before I went to gym,
and I had such a good session that Monday morning.
When I got to gym. I felt like shit the
Friday before it saying and then on that Monday morning
I had one of the best sessions of my whole
comp He was mad. It was crazy, to be honest, though, Yeah,
it was great to see. I love watching he got
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his ass beat well waste than I did.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Patty, when you go.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Through a camp like that, with the acknowledgment of this
dude got me, I've got to get better for it
is Patty pivolet today with the work that you've done
in camp, better than the guy that thought justin gates
you back in January.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, of course I get better. I get better at day.
I train every single day and my little micro improvements
every day when I train. You know, people always give
me share for being fat and stuff like that. But
even when I put a bit of weight on, I'm
still in the gym too. I was every day at
least putting the work in getting better. And that's what
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I do. And this camp, obviously, because I'm fighting BSD,
we have to do a lot of different specific stuff
for him. But he's on the feet. He's not that
different and just engaged. He comes forward, he puts pressure on,
he's got nowhere near the level of Schon as him.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
He's very reckless.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
He can be very reckless, very reckless, and you know,
when it comes to the grapping side of things, he's
a lot like Michael Chandler. I mean, he'll shoot in
a lot, he'll try and put you down, keep you there,
and I just don't see if any way that he
beats me. I genuinely don't.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I believe that what separates great fighters in our elite
fighters from good fighters is like this, right, what's up?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Peer? What are you having?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
In terms of internal conversation when their doors locked and
the referee is about to say fight. I remember that
I was. I was so aware of my surroundings inside
the octagon. I could hear the pin drop right. I
would go to the center, they would give us our instruction.
When I would turn around, everybody's gone except for me,
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the referee, and the guy Bruce is going with his
nice suit. Everything's gone. And I would think to myself
right before, I'm like, y, I'm about to try to
fuck this dude, though I swear to God, like every time,
I initially i'd be kind of scared, like, can I
if I can get out of this thing.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'd be good, but like alright in the back.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But I would think to myself right before, like I'm
gonna try to I want to kill this dude. Like
what kind of internal conversation are you having when that
fight started out?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
The exact same conversation. Really, Yeah, I tell I say
to myself, the only people in this world do moth
to light. Now I was not rough because he decides
on this, finishes on this motherfucker. I'm gonna kill. Yeah,
that's the only thing I have in my head. The
crowd doesn't matter, no one else. Masa's only that pass
and standing in front of me that's gonna sign and
take my head off. I'm gonna take his ad off first.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But isn't it the greatest feeling?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
It's like, no, there's no feeling like that. I always
say people, the only thing that I can compare to
get my un raised in the in the octagon is
seeing me wife give birth. Yeah, there's there's no there's
no youth for you like it. Citizens.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's unbelievable when you go in there, Like when I
would walk up those stairs and I would stand there
waiting and they're introducing you and they go in the
first time you guys hit each other, You're like, it
just wakes something up inside of you.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's so like Prime was like.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, it's fucking crazy, right, Like you literally want to
fight until somebody drag you off of his person. I'm like,
I could leave his carcass in the middle of this
damn octagon if I could. But it's the greatest thing
in the world because there's no fulfillment, like two men
who are trained to the peak level to go out
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there and test ourselves against each other, and I know
that I got one over on you. That's literally I
don't I don't know, man, I've never felt anything like it.
I think it's It gives me chills even thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, those kids pumps because it's like old Gladys stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Man, it's like what they used to do in the coliseum.
But we I'm out in the glady as some way
ot in the Dieto putts Zeo's Zozo zero one percent
of humans on Earth expandy and stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I Actually I get chills when I watch you guys
in there, Like I swear, dude, every time a title
fight happens, I'm like, oh, it starts shaking this. It
really is the best. I think that I have the
best job because now I don't have to get punched anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I can actually watch you guys do it. But I
mean it's fucking awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Moments are what we tried to have inside of fighting.
You get an opportunity this weekend to try to create
another moment against ben watas sounding neat what makes him
dangerous as recklessness.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It does both. It makes him dangerous and also makes
him weak at the same time because I can see
myself catching him with a nay a punching elbow all
the submission and his bit of recklessness. And I love
a car crash that. I love it when two things Collard,
that's my game as a whole. Obviously, the biggest things
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I've got to watch out for is his backhand, his
back kick, and take dance. There they're the main things,
and he does that against everyone.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But does that benefit you him trying to wrestle with
you more?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, I think he may not wrestle with me because
he knows also him like, if he has to wrestle me,
I can see myself sending up a choke pretty fast
and put in his ass a cure because I don't
think he'll tap you know what I mean. He's a
warrior like he's wrong, the god of war, former marine.
But I'll choke that ass unconscious and know whether.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Is this the most important fight of your career?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah? I always say that the next fight is always
knows the important fight. The next one's always know its
important because especially coming off a loss. You know what
I mean, I've never lost two back to the back
of my life and I'm not gonna start now.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
How close are you, like, how close are you with
the champion change in everything you have in a history
with Justin Gaetgee? How important is it for you to win?
And how close do you think a win puts you
back into that picture? Because again that superstartup that you
have now gained allows for you to always be relatively
close to a championship opportunity.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Well, a loss puts me miles beyond, so that's not
an option. A win. I don't think I got a beam,
I say to way with Justin. I'll be honest, like
I know I've got superstar and as you call it, well,
I feel like I'm definitely gonna have to win one more,
you know what I mean? Went have to beat someone else,
whether it be Charles Max Man Connor, you know what
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I mean, I'd definitely have to win one more. I'd
love to just fight just then again. You know, as
I said, I've got nothing much respect for him, the
better man one on the NPO. At the same time,
a couple of things what happened in that fight change
the course of the fight. So I'd love to get
that rematch. I'd love to fight him again, but I'm
just gonna have to play it by year and take
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up one fight at the time.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
One second, what's the score.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Too? Too?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Not many to England.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Be funny if that goes to you all.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Dude, we just asked about the World Cup is happening
right now.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You're an English guy.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You love football, but you have no interest in the
World Cup in international football.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
No, I'm international footballs ball, but you're.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Just England's winning. That's your country, I know, and just nothing.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm a Liverpool fan, lad, I'm a football fan in general,
but I'm a Liverpool fan. I'd rather Liverpool win the
coupe England and the whale coup.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I went to a game the other day in San Francisco.
It was awesome, like so many people US versus uh Bosnia.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, here's a Gova.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
What did they put this? HER's a GOVA on bottom?
What is that?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What is in the p? I didn't we what's on
the P I did the day but oh no, that
was the night time we watched it on the television. Anyway,
I nam them was very good. US team is very good.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Don't know, we're very good.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I don't overstep them off.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
We're very good. I don't understand why he just insist
on district.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's only like three four teams on one.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Of them France, Yeah, England, Spain, France, Spain, Argent.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Three goods the United States of America. We're pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
The news you think that Norway could beat the United.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I just watch I just watched Paraguay. Paraguay played France
to one zero. We beat him four to one. We
killed Paraguay.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I what that's like.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
MMA moth doesn't wear football, months doesn't, but it kind
of does.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Though it doesn't team sport. It doesn't team sport.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
It works more than Mma'll get it works more than
MMA and team sport, you know what I mean? It
just doesn't laugh like that, So.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You don't think we could play France competitive I'm just
asking here's a real question. I don't mean to veer
off of the fucking conversation, but you don't think we
can play France competitively?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Are you taking the.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Paraguay went one zero with them?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Dude, played ball like yours Arsenal team that you love.
He put eleven men beyond the ball and just didn't
let them.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So why would the United States team do the same thing?
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Because a better manager than that, you don't think he
would let him? No, he plays better football on that.
I actually like Pain. I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
He's doing a great job he is.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
He's a great manager. He got Spares to a Champions
League final. That's how good manager he is. You know
what I mean? Like, I think you just get Spain
or Portal, don't you if you beat Belgium.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I think Portugal is actually playing Yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Playing Spain, They're playing each other. You beat Belgium, you
will get them in the course of finals, and Spain
will absolutely tan your asses for you.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You think so, Yeah, I don't know, man, I think Spain.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Will tan your asses for you, but in a big way.
Wait before the tournament started, they were my three, the
three like when someone said, do you think's got a
chance to win? Him Argentina Spain in France they were
Mike three, and they're probably all going to be in
the semi finals. I think now the way the tournaments go,
and I think Argentina are gonna win. I think Messi
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is gonna win it again because he is, even at
his age, he is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I was on I was, I was at fief for
the other day and they asked me about this, and
I picked the United States.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
See, I think it's just.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
No, but no, no, no, it's like Justin Gaegee beating
Illiot to porious.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
No, it's literally it's literally the same.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
It was, oh yeah, as a two horse race.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It was six to one dog Justin Gagey was.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
It's still a two horse race. But it wasn't fighting.
It's not football change.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It was a six to one odd and because he
was at the White House on America's birthday, he.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Got it done.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I believe that the United States team playing in America
gives us a chance.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I look at you, one thousand dollars right now, the
US he don't win it.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Wait, let's make it more realistic. Can we get past
the quarterfinals?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
He's in the courts is now we're in the round
of sixteen.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That means we have to win two more games. That
would be one of the greatest finishers.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Just won't. Just will not beat Spain or Portugal two.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Games we get to the Semis. Just won't we get
to the Semis.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Beligium might beat you.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
We're not losing a bet, I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I think it's a tight game with fifty to fifty
that will go either way. God, because they've got some
brilliant players. I don't know they getting older, but the
Bruina Telman they're old.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
They're older, They're old.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
We've got is one of the best.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Keays.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yes, but we've got young just young studs ready to
make it.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Look they was, Look he's a beat Senegal.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Bo.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
What's all about USA? Yeah, okay, Senegal won the African
comp Nations.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
But we've won many things Conker calv Cup, We've won
so many things.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Erty whatever, dude, I can't talk to you about. This
is so disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Best I love this guy. He's delusion.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
I'm not delusional. How is that delusion? Bro, how's that delusion?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Whatever, you get to the semi finals, that's one of
the greatest World Cup feats.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It would be the greatest World Cup we've ever had.
We've never we've We've only been to the quarters one twice.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
That's what I mean. You know, that'd be one of
the like Cook get manager of the tournament that if
you got to the semis Yeah, but as I said,
you just might beat Belgium. I'll give you that game,
by the way, especially now that the red cards being Yeah,
some buttersfults in there, Spain or poetryal and I think
it'll be Spain that she's not beating them. Spain one
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of the best teams in the world. That's one of
the best players in the world.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
We got to get back on track.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
But you're just so disrespectful to the United States team.
You won that fight in London, and there was a
little bit of a different side to Patty Pimbler right
at times. You can be fun on the microphone afterwards,
and you talked about men's mental health and you talked
a little bit about your friend Ricky.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
What does that What did that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Why did you feel like that was a time for
you to do that, and why is that important to you?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And well he had literally killed himself like six hours before.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
It was so so it was fresh on your mind
for you even going to octagon and fight, then heavy
on your heart.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I got a phone call like three am Friday morning,
so six hours before the way, and someone rang me
saying he's killed herself, and like he wasn't one of
my closest friends, know what I mean, But he was
me meat, Like he wasn't one of my best meat.
But no matter what, when we see each other, we'd
have a laugh, we talk, and we'd stay in touch.
So when I got told dark and Ember just crying
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and getting in the bath on my own I like
three in the morning, just thinking, oh my god, this
this really happened. And then I'll never forget being in
the back before we walk and I was just fighting
Joan Levy and he come out. It ain't no mountain
high enough, And for some reason I made it made
me cry, you know what I mean, Imember crying walking
before the fire before my song come on. I was
stood in the back crying and Paul, that's like, give
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me a hug. And then I just felt like it
was the right thing to do with fell out saying
if I hadn't rehearsed none of that, almous, it just
come out. And the amount of people that have spoke
to me since, bumped into me or mess me saying
like you saved my life, I'm like, I never you
saved your own life. I just said sot of twins
to get you to go and get out.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
But that's what it's about, right, using your platform to
inspire people.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
That's what I always say. It's nice to be nice,
you know what I mean. Some people who were in
our position wouldn't do that because they're like, oh, the bravado,
We've got to be this, You've got to be that.
Not asked the bar what other people think of me,
you know what I mean. I'd rather be honest because
I've been there all that stuggled in the past, especially
after whether I'd saying that's setting off of down. After
the UFCA and I lost my next fight and I
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broke my hand and I was sitting out for like
eighteen months. I was in a bad way, a bad,
bad way, like I would have finished that fight in
the first round that but didn't go into the fight
with the broke hand, but I went into the fight
with the broken hand and I had a fully fled
RENATD choke on and couldn't finish it because my m
was that week. And then I lose the fight over
five rounds. And then I'm sitting out for literally eighty
(43:53):
fifteen to eighteen months as I can't fight because I'm injured.
And then you're just I was waking up every morning
crying just like my wife then girlfriend. My wife was
waking up away, giving me a kiss and leaving the house,
and I just add normally fall back a sleep. I
was rolling over and just balling my eyes out every morning.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
How'd you get through that?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
It was tough. It was really tough because I was
like another another normal manifest I was like goes to
people and start saying this and that. When I'm the fighter,
I know what I mean. I'm knowing that you'd be
strong in these positions and luckily enough, and then speaking
to me boxing coach Chris who being me corner on
the weekend, and he said, I don't you need to
do that and just speak to someone about it, like
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get her off your chest, and literally I spoke to
him about her when I spoke to a lot of
about it and them speaking to paular Bard and it
was weird. I woke up the next morning I felt lighter.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Literally, I just kind of trying to get rid of
some of it.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And then I ended up going to counsel and now
I end up going to a place in Liverpool, James's Place.
I end up like sitting down and actually speaking to account.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Really that helped because most men trying not to do that,
They don't want to be able to go and reach
out and find that.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
No. I went and as I say, it helped me.
Loads still speak to her now, James, She's brilliant. Without
going and sitting and speaking to her, I don't know
if i'd still be he did.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Did that your friends passing in your issues? Is that
would helped you or inspired you to start the Baddy Foundation?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah? I played the big part and starting I'm through
the foundation. We have used her to donate money to
the place I went to, which is called James's Place
for counseling, and we don't need the money to that
to employ a full time member of staff for two years.
So there's another person for men to go and speak to.
James's Place is a men's only counseling place where you
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only got one to one, but it's still happening that
Like literally it was a lad who come and watch
me fight to Miami. I think it's Michael Chandler. It
was just one year on a versy the other day, Maggie,
he just killed himself out of blue. Another fellow who
would know by our Scott he just killed himself. How
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the blue? He'd just got married a couple of months
before and had two kids. People just I don't know, Dad,
especially in liverpools bad for it because there's like a
stigma against that. And that's why I said the exact
words what I said, I'd rather be make ca on
my shoulder than after carry is common.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, Petty, you have become a father. Now how's that
changed you.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Tenfold? I don't really feel it myself, but everyone else
says it to me. Eye says, oh, he's so different now,
You've like, I've got a lot more motivations to do things.
And I was already a hard worker and dedicated and discipline,
but I'm even more of all of them now, you
know what I mean? And everything the day was to
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provide for me little girls, Like, that's another reason why
I knew I never had any quit in me. One.
Just think gay, he's on Safia punching you in the face, Like,
I'm not stopping you because I've got up my family
and if I get finished like this, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's easy when you can see your why, like your
why right is your wife.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And your kids. And when you can see that right.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
We always fighters always think are they know something inside
of them that propels them forward?
Speaker 1 (47:25):
But when they're right in front of.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
You, right a face, with your children, your family, it
makes it easier because you're not You don't have to
self motivate anymore because it's right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, they give me what you can up every morning.
And seeing their little smiles on the home that I'm
going to put oddway and to keep putting them smiles
on their faces makes every bit of odd way sweat, pain,
see blood.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I asked everybody this before I get them out of
this chair. I ask him years from now when people
talk about Patty Pemble, like, what do you want them
to remember?
Speaker 1 (48:02):
What do you want them to say? Not only about
Patty the fighter, but about Patty the man.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I want them to remember me as a well champion
by that time I'm done, you know what I mean.
I want them to remember that. I'd like them to
remember most of I'm just a nice person. And I
tell people, you know what I mean, because as I
said before, it's nice to be nice. You don't want
to be remembered there's a piece of shit, you know
what I mean. You don't want to be looked out
like a piece of shit like Kolby covingson. You want
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to be looked out as a good person, a good father,
a good friend. Someone wasn't a wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Patty. I want to ask this before I let you go.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I know you haven't thought about it, but what if
the World Championship doesn't happen? Like, could you be okay?
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, You'll always be okay, But I know what's going
to happen. I know what you mean obviously.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I know you don't think about it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
But I like when someone is so tied to a
goal for so long, right, I mean sixteen years old?
Speaker 1 (49:03):
You know you. I just I had to do it too,
like I didn't win the Olympics and that, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Have more inspiration for the tone. I was just engaging. Yeah, yeah,
he was done. Everyone said he was finished. Everyone said
everyone was going to beat him. Just won the world
title of thirty seven. Yeah he did, and he did
it in and he'd done it in spectacular fashion. Yeah,
I've seen physic saying the same thing that motivated him
that most avaateed me. You know what I mean? That
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got me me out of bed to go on saying
you know what I mean? That made me saying even
harder when I've seen him win that beltn't know anything
is possible. Everyone said that was impossible. Like that they
head dan Oka saying that interview. Does anybody year think
that just engage you can beat silly as a polia,
not one of you. Just put your hands up and
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then just engage you when and beats early as a
polia made him look like a right's hit.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
You don't like Eli? What's this weekend look like? Patty?
What does this weekend look like? How does this fight
in between you and BSD?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I was saying, this is some of the other diacon
it being a pretty fast finished for me and a
performance of the night, or I can see it being
a little bit of a war on a Fight of
the night. Well, no matter of wa there's no way
I leave that cage. I'll get my unraised. Simple as that.
It's not it's not an option this weekend.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Patty, you the man, Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I appreciate this, guys. That was Patty to Patty Pimblet.
This dude is tremendous. Obviously he is trying to help
and uplift people from his community and everywhere else. Until
next time, guys like subscribe and tell your friends that
I got a YouTube channel and I'm chatting with guys
like Patty Pimbler for the Daniel Cormier Show. Until next time, Peace,
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Good job Paddy. It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yeah, I enjoy it. The
What's up, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of The Daniel Cormier Show, brought
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Now that's a total power move. Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
A guy that is looking to make a power move
this weekend is Patty Pimblet. He went from being a
guy that fought in Liverpool to one of the most
recognizable faces and personalities in the UFC. He has built
a massive following while proving he belongs amongst the best lightweights.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But what makes this conversation special is that I'm not
gonna just talk to him about the fight this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We're gonna talk.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
About the journey that got him from Liverpool to here,
the pressure that he carries on his back by carrying
that city with him, dealing with the criticism that he's
had to deal with throughout his career, and how he's
balanced the spotlight with the expectations that come with it. Obviously,
we're gonna talk about the matchup with ben Wile san Deni,
what he learned from his last fight, his beloe that
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he could still become a UFC champion, life outside the octagon, family, fatherhood,
and why he believes that his best days are still
ahead of him today. We don't only get the fighter,
we don't only get the entertainer. We get the family man,
and we get the man himself. Guys, I want you
to welcome into one and only Batty Patty Pimley.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Patty, thank you for joining me with my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Hey, you know, we're trying to polish you up a
little bit. You know, Hey, you look different. I saw
you in Hungary for the Champions League final. You don't
even look like the same guy.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
A lot of people say stuff like that, everybody. Yeah,
just consistent diet, you know what I mean. Gott thea.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
When we were talking in the bus ride on the
way back to the hotel which you so kindly dropped
me off at dinner to go meet how beaving him,
you were talking about what the training camp was gonna
look like, and you were so fired up about the
work that you had ahead of you, Like, how do
you prepare yourself mentally for that?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Obviously this one was easy to prepare for mentally because
I lost my last fight. Yeah know what I mean?
I got beat and when you lose, you've got the
most motivation. You've had a lot to come back and win.
There was an easy one to get motivated for, so.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Patty, we got to start like I always try to
start these interviews with the beginning, right.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Liverpool is not an easy place.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You told me to watch a documentary whenever I was
leaving about that World Cup team or the Premier League team,
World Cup, no Champions League team from back in the
day with Jamie Carrigan, all those guys, and they.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Spoke about Liverpool.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Liverpool's not a easy place to grow up. What was
that like for you growing up there?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I just I love my city, you know what I mean.
I totally enjoyed growing up there. For I can't see
a lot of people that think it will be odd.
You know, there's quite a few deprived areas. But my
little lady and opening it was quite nice. But wasn't
it wasn't not unsatable. I enjoy it going off. I
enjoyed school, Well I didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well they did you enjoy You were gonna say you
enjoyed school, but you didn't like school?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Pat When you look back now, you miss it, you
know what I mean? It's mid because when you're younger,
you wish the years away. When you're older, you wish
the years bach. But yeah, I didn't really like school
getting told what to do people, You know what I mean, Like,
it's just it wasn't what I was about.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
How could you recognize that at such a young age
I did. I mean, they're trying to teach you, Patty,
They're not telling you what to do.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, I had to teach you. What told me to
stop doing mm because it was too small?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But why you know what's weird about that?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So many times when you're growing up in these types
of situations as a young person and you dream big,
the people around you, because they are confined to where
they're from, they tell you that you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I always tell.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
People that I'm Like when I was training for the
Olympic Games and I said I'm gonna be Olympic champion
about it in Louisiana, was like, this, dude is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You're crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You're crazy, And then all of a sudden they see
me at the Olympic Games. I'm I was always willing
to be crazy to give myself a chance.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
When did you realize that you had that ability?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
For everybody around you to maybe not think as big
as you did.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I always have big dreams. Like one thing I always
say is if people don't laugh at your dreams, then the
not big enough. You know what I mean. People should
be laughing at when you say I'm gonna do this,
I'm gonna do that, because if the nod and it's
just normal.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But why why do you think that? Why do you
think it's like that?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I don't know. I always said, like the Sooners, I
have me fast fighting got me I raised. I was like,
this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be a
UFC world championis I thought it's sixteen. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So you have an older brother, Yeah, right, that can
be tough. I had an older brother too. I mean,
how was that growing up with you?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Chris Weidman's older brother was a nightmare. He would beat
the shit out of him, to the point that Chris
would Chris would sing this song like U a tank
engine that would give him courage to make him go
and fight.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But what how was it growing up with your brother?
I guess he would beat you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Up now and then Yeah, because there was a big gap.
Betwens thought he was like five and a half years
older than me, so we didn't get into many fights,
but normally when we did, he'd beat me up because
he was so much bigger than me.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And what did you do?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I always full apoking on I man and have another
bouncer quit in me. I keep going no matha, wah, yeah,
you'll probably see that now. Still let me fight in
Star Helica.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Isn't it amazing though, that even in those moments where
it's not supposed to be that, like, you show that
thing that's inside of you that makes you a fighter.
Like I used to get bullied when I was a
kid and I wouldn't fight back until eventually I did,
And when I did, I never stopped fighting. I never
stopped fighting back and I never stopped fighting even when it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Turned into my career.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But isn't it amazing that you developed these things unknowing
that ultimately would define you in the career that you've
not chosen.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, definitely, you don't. You don't even realize that things
are molding. You're into your futureself when you do it.
But when you look back now, you realize, oh my god, yeah,
that was that was making me the person I am today.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know you talked about your dad will be here
at the end of the week to watch you fight
your parents.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Like our parents teach you so much.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Is there something that you can look back on from
your upbringing that your parents.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Told you that you still carry.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The day me Dad's just always had. So they both
believed in me, like you know me and from day one,
and I said I was going to do this even
though you didn't even know what MMA was. But since
day one, my dad's a total belief in me, you
know what I mean, having me to wolver Amson and
to Newcastles and Manchester, to the Grapplin's ornaments, and then
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he's the only person who's never missed a fight, like
being at every single thing I've ever done. And he's
literally always supposed to me no matter what me. But
my mum's only ever come to one fight and I lost,
so she is never invited again.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Was that enough?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Like that belief from your parents, even though all the
outside might have been like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
This is too much for you.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Did that belief of your parents knowing or believing in you,
Is that enough to kind of counter everything else that
was coming from the outside.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah. The only people's opinions. Who really matter are the
ones who actually cared about you. It'll affect them, you
know what I mean? All these souls and haters online
can say what he wants for not un that they
shay or do will ever affect my life? Well, me
mom and dad, me wife, mean family, be close friends,
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all them people, They actually affect my life and what
happens in my life. So I'll take advice from them
and be catiticism from them. But other people on the outside,
I won't. I won't really be bothered. I'm used to
it now. A lot of people are being commenting on
my stuff since I was sixty and giving me shit.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's crazy for such a young age. At fifteen, you
walk into that gym, were you nervous or did you
feel confident that you were in the right place. I
know you said you did grappling and all those things,
but were you nervous? I remember my first wrestling practice.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I was so scared. I had no idea what was
gonna happen to me. I thought I was would do
what Rick Flair did. I really thought I was going
in to do what Ric Flair did.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But it was wrestling. But I was so nervous, but
I fell in love on day one. Like, how'd you
feel walking into an MMA gym for the first time.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, I've never done anything before. I've done a little
bit of boxing when I was about ten for a
couple of weeks and then, as I said, I just
watched the fight at UFC Fights on YouTube and was like,
I need to try this. And then when I walked
in the gym, I just fell in little b as
soon as I done them first couple of sessions on
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the See sessions in one night, and I was like, yeah,
this this is what I'm want to do. And it
was weird when you just find your call and that
was what I've done.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But what did what did that feel like?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like, what did that feel like to you? Where you're like,
in what moment do you go? This is me?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because while while wrestling became my uh, defining thing, there
were a lot of times I was like I don't
know if I want to do this ship man, like
it just sucks, But like when did when did you know?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like, man, this is the first day. What did it
feel like? Like I'm just home?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, I was more nervous walking in because I couldn't
find the place. It was on the fourth floor, and
I had to bring Paul, who's now my coaches, like
meet me uncle. I had to bring him saying I
can't find that way it is and he's like loo loo.
I was like, oh, made the made the right. No
better than myself here. I took a little hope and
go up in a lift. But yeah, I didn't feel
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nervous getting on the mat, nothing like that, Like I'd
feel nervous to doing anything else. But I think it's
just it's what I'm meant to do, so I didn't
feel nervous doing it. You.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I said that people have been commenting on your stuff
since you were sixteen years old. It's easy to comment
on someone's stuff negatively when at sixteen years old they
say I'm gonna be a world champion.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You said that at such a young age you had
made the determination. But with that, with that expectation comes pressure.
Did you ever feel pressure when you made that statement
in that interview that you would be able to do
what you say that you were going to do.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, of course you always have pressure, especially the positions
that we put ourselves in. We we bring pressure on
we invite it. You know what I mean? Well, as
the saying goes, pressure makes Domonds wouldn't be where I
am today. It's made me the past I am.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
How do you deal with that pressure?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I don't know. To be honest, I'll just take happy,
enemy strive. Paul always says to me, wanted me be
best thoughts of you. Probab me best thoughts of you.
There's me confidence, Yeah, because I'll be honest, I don't
know where I got it from, but I am so
confident and it probably is the best thing that I
have because in my head, I don't think anyone can
be me.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You're a twenty one year old kid right in sixteen,
I'm gonna be a world champion. Early twenties I started
thinking about maybe walking away. What was that lightwood brought
about that decision?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It was before me twenties. To be honest, I think
I was eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But why I was?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I was four and one pro and I just went
making enough money just financial. Yeah, I wasn't paying the bills.
I was having to do other stuff on the side,
and the hustle to stay in the gym and training,
you know, what I mean. And as I say, luckily enough,
I've got a coach like Paul, and he gave me
a job in the gym, and I started the enemy
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money in the gym, doing Pete privates and helping him
with training and doing bits of cleaning and stuff like that,
and without dying, never know, I might even be here.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But so he was the one that talked to you
his names, like you cannot stop doing this?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Stuffed doing this? How cold you gonna be? You calm
through this? If you did it, it will be a waste
of solence. And that's one thing that Dodd's always said
to me that I'll never figure. There's nor westing this
well than a waste of solence.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh, it's the worst, Like I see it constantly. You
know what's the worst when you're when you're growing up
with someone.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
One of my friends told me the other day, he goes,
you weren't the most talented guy in the neighborhood, and
I was like kind of offended. I was like kind
of offended a little bit, but he said, you you
were the one that was able to stay disciplined. Because
I know there are so many distractions in our youth
where we can kind of flutter off and go in
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the wrong direction. But I see so many guys now
hoop dreaming. They call it hoop dreaming, where they're still
on the basketball court at night shooting, telling people I'm
going to the NBA, I'm gonna get a college scholarship,
And I'm just so lucky that I didn't waste that.
I didn't waste that because I didn't work hard enough.
So I can't imagine how thankful you are for your
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coach for not allowing you to waste and your father
right for giving you the right type of lessons.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But me, uncle did all the good. He played for
Austin Villa's first really when he was sixteen, played for
the first team at on field against Liverpool.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Shut up Patty and his debut and so what happened?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He was big drink cab woman and just falling off,
you know what I mean. And he was spoke about
is the next big thing in English football. Dad always
says when some players come on to tell he couldn't
lace your uncle's boots?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Really, yeah, and how was your uncle today? Like does
he tell the story of Patty? I love that you
stuff with that now he died.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
He died last year. He lived in Ustaia though I
only met him like twice. Really well, every single person
who ever mentions him, it was just like do you
understand how good he was a football? Know what I mean?
Like I'm just always like, wow.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Did your did your like did your dad talk to
you about that when you were thinking about walking away?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Like, dude, your uncle was you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah? We thought sawing me all about it. He said,
you can't, you can't waste the talent. That was the
main thing. They just always sticks to me. Yet that
he said, life, there's non wayst don't wasted silence. We've
already odd one in this family. We don't need ane
at all.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Your uncle at sixteen plays at anfield against Liverpool, Like
that's a dream country, especially for someone that likes football.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now like me, I'm not as.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm not a I didn't realize how much of an
expert you were at football until we were at the
Champions League. But every young guy sits there and goes,
I want to make the first team and I want
to play at anfield. I want to play at DM reates,
I want to play in these big stadiums. You got
the call to come to the UFC and you said, no,
you didn't rush. How did you have that confidence that
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it would still happen if it didn't happen now, And
what gave you the mindset to know maybe now is
not my time.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, obviously the close people around me, me managing me, coach.
And at the time when I was twenty one and
I first got asked, I was still a baby like
I was. If you look at pictures of me from
when I won the Cage Whardiers featherweight belt, I was
very small, but I was still grown. And then when
I got asked the second time, I'd only just moved
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up to light weight and my body was I was
twenty three. Bo I was still a baby. Only mean,
if you look at me body, I never had no traps,
never had no muscle Like if you look at my
debut pitcher to me picture now, I look completely different.
And it's because I wasn't that professional back then. I
only started lifting weights in like twenty twenty. Really, yeah,
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before then all was used to there was like sacreds
for me for me, s and c. Where I started
lifting weights, and I've put so much muscle mass on,
so much muscle, and that's why I've now grew in
to one of the biggest lightweights, where even if I
would have said yet to the second offer off the UFC,
I would have been one of the smallest lightweights. So obviously,
waiting and coming on the third offer it was the
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best thing I ever done. But I'd like to tell
younger fighters that because younger fighters now just rushed to
the UFC.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yes, that's what.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I was saying, and the get beats and then they're gone,
and then they're gone, and then the dreams are over.
Where if you would have just waited, got a couple
more fights in and then went to the UFC, you
would have had a much better standard and chance of staying.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But in cage waters, in cage warriors, are you making
enough money there to make that type of.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Decision or like I was?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, personally I was, But how do you like because
that's hard man.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Everybody wants to get to the mountain top.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Like I don't know that I could have said no,
even though I had done all the things that I
had done prior, because of the draw of the UFC.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, when I, as I said, when I got off
of the first UFC contact I got off of the
new contact of Cage Audios, and I was getting paid
a lot more off Cage really start in contact with
the UFC, and then the second time I was still
getting the same wage off Cage what he is, but
would have been the start and contact off the UFC,
and I did end up just getting a start in
contact off the UFC ten and ten, twelve and twelve.
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Bo I don't already built enough money up from me
Cage Audio's money to sacrifice that and to go for
that knowing that once I have one fight and I
speak on the mic, I will get a big sponsorship.
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Is there something you've done that you're like extremely proud of?
I when I was researching it said, you made a
big check, you paid off a mortgage. I remember buying
my mom a house in my hometown. Yeah, I was
so happy, but I could not wait to give her
the keys, right, Like, what's the one thing that you've
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done that you're just so extremely proud of? Since you've
been able to make the money that you've made the.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
First thing it did when I was twenty one was
payoff my mom's mortgage. You know what I mean as
a kid. Yeah, well basically I was only twenty one. Yeah,
well I just got she didn't have that much left
on what I mean, it wasn't like a big extravagant amountable.
I helped paid that off, and I helped my sister
got a new kitchen.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's kind of crazy though, Like it's like sometimes people go, Patty,
remember you call all that shit down before, and we'll
talk about all that a little bit later. But it
seems like you were so much more mature at a
younger age than so many of us. When I was
twenty one years old, bro, I was at Oklahoma State
going absolutely bunkers. I could not have paid off my
mom's morgan if I would have made money out of
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Jordan's shoes.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I wasn't mature then. Yeah. I didn't mature till I
was about twenty five, you know. After I had a
few bad stints around when I lost fights in cage,
but as well, I was going out partying too much
of people went me. The women made to you mp
me proper makes on of me, and I grew up
with because all my mates sugar come on the weekend.
I've I've been made with them since primary school and
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infant school. I've been made to de since I was five,
six seventies and then some of them from senior school
started at eleven. All my mates to it. It would
be properly mates. I'm tight, knits were close, you know
what I mean. And we've been made since babies.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The one thing about people from Liverpool is they take
a lot of pride in that city. They you guys
love your city, from the football club to the city
the people, you guys love it. You got to defend
your championship or win the championship there? Does that still
stack up as one of the biggest moments of your
career even though you have done some of the big
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things that you've done now in your career.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Definitely winning the belts in the local arena in front
of like twelve to thirteen thousand people whatever it was,
everyone was there to watch me. That was a special
feeling that you know, hopefully one day we can fight
in on field and I can win a fight there,
and now me and Mobile and I'll be the Frenchman.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well yeah, come full circle.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You finally take the UFC's offer and I remember being
at your first fight Patty and uh, you kind of
look like Owen Heart. It was a wrestler, and I
was like, it kind of looks like oh and hard
as you were fighting, and you went like, hey.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's one thing to say.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I know, if I fight and get on that microphone,
I'm gonna make people pay attention.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But you actually did it. What do you remember about
that night?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It was in the Apex, right like in the Apex
getting ready, went all this hype and expectation because dude,
people had polished you up before you even got there.
So few guys get that before they make their debut
and deliver.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
What do you remember about that night?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But it wasn't even the nights. It was the Dalue,
wasn't it? Because it was it was the afternoon ABC.
It was a COVID show. We have to We were
still in a hotel for the whole week. We couldn't leave.
That was my fast expedions in Vegas. Bollm a Molly
fighting before me, and that a thing I thought. All
I opened up the main card or I was second
fights on the main car, but I just properly enjoyed it.
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I love fighting and it was probably payfect that he
caught me with a big punch and then knocked them
out because it made the fight better, It made it
more thrillering for everyone to watch. It's better than just
going out there and steamrolling someone and thirty seconds I
comes at I give the audience a little bit of
suspense and then obviously I grabbed the mic and said
a few things and everything just went bananas.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But you just knew. You just knew that it was
a game. But did you did you expect it to
become what it became? The fame?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah? Really, that's why I've I've always took her all
in my stard I always knew this was going to happen.
I always knew Superstar and was gonna come. I don't
know why I just started in the back of me
man that I knew. I knew that all this was
going to happen. And that's why I still say to
this day, even though just Engage you beat me for
the Internet title, I know I'm going to be USC
Lightwick Champion, and know for the fuck.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know, stardom in superstardom is something that's very hard
to come by. I had to defend that belt so
many times for people to start going okay, well, buy
into what he's doing. Unless I fought John Jones and
one of those other guys, you've not only become a
great fighter, almost a champion, fall for the belt already,
but you've got them both.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Like it doesn't happen for me where they get both.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You knew you could fight, you say you knew you
could become a star in this thing, But is it
hard to manage? Like when you're in Liverpool going out
and about as the superstar Patty pimblet while you're still
trying to just get to training.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
To be honest, it's off normal in Liverpool now, Like
I just said, when the belts it's twenty one on cage.
What he Isn't I blew open Liverpool then? Anyway, I
don't think that's why I got to add to myself
a little bit because I was going out posting all
the time and people want us to know me and
this and and I got a little bit of adding myself,
Like at that point when I was like twenty two,
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I needed to lose. I needed to bring back down's away. Yeah,
and it's modd when you look back now, because I
wouldn't be the person I'm on the position I'm in.
If I didn't fall off then to build myself back up,
I would have got in the UFC and without losing
the bells capt winning fights. I might have had a
crazy fall off like make did a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
But he did so much before right like and I
think like he almost laid the blueprint for a guy
like you to be able to come in here and
do what you've what you've done. But with that, right
with the personality and with the following, everybody wants to
doubt you, like they're really Patty's got easy matchups. They're
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giving him the best fights to make him get to
where they want him to go. Why why do people
still doubt Patty Pimblet That's slot.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I've been dealing with that since I was sixteen years
of age fighting amateur in a local venue in Liverpool.
That'll just be me for the rest of my career,
you know what I mean. I'll bet everyone's saying BSD
is gonna beat me and he's a killer. I'll beat
him and they'll be like, oh, he wasn't good anyway.
I'll go and be Tom and it'll be like because
the only wrestling doesn't have anything else, you know what
I mean? Beats Ilia Ilia was too small, you know
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what I mean? That's that's just the way I'm used
to it. That's my kiddy. People put dom me achievements,
but I'm not asked.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Do you do you like proving people wrong?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Oh yeah, It's like one of the things that gets
me out about every morning. Really why Because I just
love saying to people, I told you so. You told
me I couldn't do this. I told you I could.
I love proving people wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's a it's a it's a great thing. Oh man.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I remember when I fought Anthony Johnson. I beat him
the first time. I went to the rematch as an
underdog again. It was so fulfilling afterwards because then you
just could talk to you to people in their face.
It's like you can literally tell them how great you are.
They can't say nothing in that moment. Eventually, don't go, boy,
you lost to this guy, or you did this, this
and the other. But in that moment they have to
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acknowledge that you actually did what you s you're gonna do.
It is literally the best thing ever because everybody's a genius.
Everybody knows everything online, so when you get the opportunity
to shut them up, that has to be nice.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
But I talked about.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They always point back to someone that got you. I
want to talk to you about that justin Gaegee fight,
because we sat down before that fight, and as you
always are, you were very confident that you were going
to win that fight. Was there something surprising that happened
in there?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And what did that fight teach you about about Patty Pimbler?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It didn't teach me any and I didn't know that.
You know, it's almost everyone else on the outside. I
always knew that no matter walked someone, it was not me.
I'm not gonna stop. I'm gonna keep fighting and keep
coming forward. Hit me on the chin of thousands tunds
if you want, I'm still gonna keep coming forward. Just
like the end of the fifth round, I'm not gonna stop.
And it showed me not a knew day anyway, but
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that I can be in there with someone at a
high level for five rounds and all my own And
obviously it gave me even more motivation when he beats
Illy here the other week, because yeah, people were saying
that he didn't stand the chance and Imber saying to
him the pest lot, I think Justin's gonna beat him.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You said that before the fight, you were one of
very few. What gave you the confidence that he could
get that done?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Because I know I could beat Illy, hadn't Justin beat me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well what did you what did you take from that fight? Actually,
while we're talking about that, like when you watch Ilia
and Justin fight, like obviously you said he was gonna win,
but were you surprised by the way that he did it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
That's just a Justin gageyesque fight, isn't it. That's why
he's your favorite fighters, favorite fight a lot. Yeah, everyone
loves Justin Gagey. You know, even though he beat me.
I'm still a fun simple as that, And it was
just great to see that little bit quitz in the
But he didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Quit, Patty. But he did not quit Patty.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Chris No, No, his corner who stopped the fight because
it sounded like someone.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Said we finished the fight.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
He quit.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Somebody said he we finished the fight, and he quit.
You think he quit.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
If my coach says to me we finished the fight,
I don't know. We finished the fight. We're going We're
going out there end of Ye, we're not quitting on
the stool. We're not bitches, we're fighters. Can't sit there,
no mass, no mass.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You heard him prepared. You didn't hear him say that.
I don't would. Why do you just like, why do
you dislike him so much?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Because he's fake? He's so fake load, everything's just all
stated seen him behind the scenes that he's the fakest pace.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You've seen him behind the scenes. And he's not that.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Illiat the boy faith loud, he's a he's an actor.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, it's so funny. So you've found a lot of
joy in that.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, oh yeah. I celebrated watching just and Win and
I did. I was so happy and it gave me
even more motivations because it was on a Sunday night,
wasn't it. Yeah, So what I do to watch the UFCS.
I have my phone on doing not to stay. I
remember you telling me this, and I get up at
like six seven am to watch it because I don't
want to room sleeping pattern and I've done that and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So your breakfast morning morning.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Monday morning, I was watching that before I went to gym,
and I had such a good session that Monday morning.
When I got to gym. I felt like shit the
Friday before it saying and then on that Monday morning
I had one of the best sessions of my whole
comp He was mad. It was crazy, to be honest, though, Yeah,
it was great to see. I love watching he got
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his ass beat well waste than I did.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Patty, when you go.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Through a camp like that, with the acknowledgment of this
dude got me, I've got to get better for it
is Patty pivolet today with the work that you've done
in camp, better than the guy that thought justin gates
you back in January.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, of course I get better. I get better at day.
I train every single day and my little micro improvements
every day when I train. You know, people always give
me share for being fat and stuff like that. But
even when I put a bit of weight on, I'm
still in the gym too. I was every day at
least putting the work in getting better. And that's what
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I do. And this camp, obviously, because I'm fighting BSD,
we have to do a lot of different specific stuff
for him. But he's on the feet. He's not that
different and just engaged. He comes forward, he puts pressure on,
he's got nowhere near the level of Schon as him.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
He's very reckless.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
He can be very reckless, very reckless, and you know,
when it comes to the grapping side of things, he's
a lot like Michael Chandler. I mean, he'll shoot in
a lot, he'll try and put you down, keep you there,
and I just don't see if any way that he
beats me. I genuinely don't.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I believe that what separates great fighters in our elite
fighters from good fighters is like this, right, what's up?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Peer? What are you having?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
In terms of internal conversation when their doors locked and
the referee is about to say fight. I remember that
I was. I was so aware of my surroundings inside
the octagon. I could hear the pin drop right. I
would go to the center, they would give us our instruction.
When I would turn around, everybody's gone except for me,
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the referee, and the guy Bruce is going with his
nice suit. Everything's gone. And I would think to myself
right before, I'm like, y, I'm about to try to
fuck this dude, though I swear to God, like every time,
I initially i'd be kind of scared, like, can I
if I can get out of this thing.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'd be good, but like alright in the back.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But I would think to myself right before, like I'm
gonna try to I want to kill this dude. Like
what kind of internal conversation are you having when that
fight started out?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
The exact same conversation. Really, Yeah, I tell I say
to myself, the only people in this world do moth
to light. Now I was not rough because he decides
on this, finishes on this motherfucker. I'm gonna kill. Yeah,
that's the only thing I have in my head. The
crowd doesn't matter, no one else. Masa's only that pass
and standing in front of me that's gonna sign and
take my head off. I'm gonna take his ad off first.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But isn't it the greatest feeling?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
It's like, no, there's no feeling like that. I always
say people, the only thing that I can compare to
get my un raised in the in the octagon is
seeing me wife give birth. Yeah, there's there's no there's
no youth for you like it. Citizens.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's unbelievable when you go in there, Like when I
would walk up those stairs and I would stand there
waiting and they're introducing you and they go in the
first time you guys hit each other, You're like, it
just wakes something up inside of you.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's so like Prime was like.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, it's fucking crazy, right, Like you literally want to
fight until somebody drag you off of his person. I'm like,
I could leave his carcass in the middle of this
damn octagon if I could. But it's the greatest thing
in the world because there's no fulfillment, like two men
who are trained to the peak level to go out
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there and test ourselves against each other, and I know
that I got one over on you. That's literally I
don't I don't know, man, I've never felt anything like it.
I think it's It gives me chills even thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, those kids pumps because it's like old Gladys stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Man, it's like what they used to do in the coliseum.
But we I'm out in the glady as some way
ot in the Dieto putts Zeo's Zozo zero one percent
of humans on Earth expandy and stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I Actually I get chills when I watch you guys
in there, Like I swear, dude, every time a title
fight happens, I'm like, oh, it starts shaking this. It
really is the best. I think that I have the
best job because now I don't have to get punched anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I can actually watch you guys do it. But I
mean it's fucking awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Moments are what we tried to have inside of fighting.
You get an opportunity this weekend to try to create
another moment against ben watas sounding neat what makes him
dangerous as recklessness.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It does both. It makes him dangerous and also makes
him weak at the same time because I can see
myself catching him with a nay a punching elbow all
the submission and his bit of recklessness. And I love
a car crash that. I love it when two things Collard,
that's my game as a whole. Obviously, the biggest things
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I've got to watch out for is his backhand, his
back kick, and take dance. There they're the main things,
and he does that against everyone.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But does that benefit you him trying to wrestle with
you more?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, I think he may not wrestle with me because
he knows also him like, if he has to wrestle me,
I can see myself sending up a choke pretty fast
and put in his ass a cure because I don't
think he'll tap you know what I mean. He's a
warrior like he's wrong, the god of war, former marine.
But I'll choke that ass unconscious and know whether.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Is this the most important fight of your career?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah? I always say that the next fight is always
knows the important fight. The next one's always know its
important because especially coming off a loss. You know what
I mean, I've never lost two back to the back
of my life and I'm not gonna start now.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
How close are you, like, how close are you with
the champion change in everything you have in a history
with Justin Gaetgee? How important is it for you to win?
And how close do you think a win puts you
back into that picture? Because again that superstartup that you
have now gained allows for you to always be relatively
close to a championship opportunity.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Well, a loss puts me miles beyond, so that's not
an option. A win. I don't think I got a beam,
I say to way with Justin. I'll be honest, like
I know I've got superstar and as you call it, well,
I feel like I'm definitely gonna have to win one more,
you know what I mean? Went have to beat someone else,
whether it be Charles Max Man Connor, you know what
(35:01):
I mean, I'd definitely have to win one more. I'd
love to just fight just then again. You know, as
I said, I've got nothing much respect for him, the
better man one on the NPO. At the same time,
a couple of things what happened in that fight change
the course of the fight. So I'd love to get
that rematch. I'd love to fight him again, but I'm
just gonna have to play it by year and take
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up one fight at the time.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
One second, what's the score.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Too? Too?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Not many to England.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Be funny if that goes to you all.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Dude, we just asked about the World Cup is happening
right now.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You're an English guy.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You love football, but you have no interest in the
World Cup in international football.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
No, I'm international footballs ball, but you're.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Just England's winning. That's your country, I know, and just nothing.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm a Liverpool fan, lad, I'm a football fan in general,
but I'm a Liverpool fan. I'd rather Liverpool win the
coupe England and the whale coup.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I went to a game the other day in San Francisco.
It was awesome, like so many people US versus uh Bosnia.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, here's a Gova.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
What did they put this? HER's a GOVA on bottom?
What is that?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What is in the p? I didn't we what's on
the P I did the day but oh no, that
was the night time we watched it on the television. Anyway,
I nam them was very good. US team is very good.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Don't know, we're very good.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I don't overstep them off.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
We're very good. I don't understand why he just insist
on district.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's only like three four teams on one.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Of them France, Yeah, England, Spain, France, Spain, Argent.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Three goods the United States of America. We're pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
The news you think that Norway could beat the United.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I just watch I just watched Paraguay. Paraguay played France
to one zero. We beat him four to one. We
killed Paraguay.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I what that's like.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
MMA moth doesn't wear football, months doesn't, but it kind
of does.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Though it doesn't team sport. It doesn't team sport.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
It works more than Mma'll get it works more than
MMA and team sport, you know what I mean? It
just doesn't laugh like that, So.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You don't think we could play France competitive I'm just
asking here's a real question. I don't mean to veer
off of the fucking conversation, but you don't think we
can play France competitively?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Are you taking the.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Paraguay went one zero with them?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Dude, played ball like yours Arsenal team that you love.
He put eleven men beyond the ball and just didn't
let them.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So why would the United States team do the same thing?
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Because a better manager than that, you don't think he
would let him? No, he plays better football on that.
I actually like Pain. I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
He's doing a great job he is.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
He's a great manager. He got Spares to a Champions
League final. That's how good manager he is. You know
what I mean? Like, I think you just get Spain
or Portal, don't you if you beat Belgium.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I think Portugal is actually playing Yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Playing Spain, They're playing each other. You beat Belgium, you
will get them in the course of finals, and Spain
will absolutely tan your asses for you.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You think so, Yeah, I don't know, man, I think Spain.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Will tan your asses for you, but in a big way.
Wait before the tournament started, they were my three, the
three like when someone said, do you think's got a
chance to win? Him Argentina Spain in France they were
Mike three, and they're probably all going to be in
the semi finals. I think now the way the tournaments go,
and I think Argentina are gonna win. I think Messi
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is gonna win it again because he is, even at
his age, he is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I was on I was, I was at fief for
the other day and they asked me about this, and
I picked the United States.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
See, I think it's just.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
No, but no, no, no, it's like Justin Gaegee beating
Illiot to porious.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
No, it's literally it's literally the same.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
It was, oh yeah, as a two horse race.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It was six to one dog Justin Gagey was.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
It's still a two horse race. But it wasn't fighting.
It's not football change.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It was a six to one odd and because he
was at the White House on America's birthday, he.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Got it done.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I believe that the United States team playing in America
gives us a chance.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I look at you, one thousand dollars right now, the
US he don't win it.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Wait, let's make it more realistic. Can we get past
the quarterfinals?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
He's in the courts is now we're in the round
of sixteen.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That means we have to win two more games. That
would be one of the greatest finishers.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Just won't. Just will not beat Spain or Portugal two.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Games we get to the Semis. Just won't we get
to the Semis.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Beligium might beat you.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
We're not losing a bet, I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I think it's a tight game with fifty to fifty
that will go either way. God, because they've got some
brilliant players. I don't know they getting older, but the
Bruina Telman they're old.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
They're older, They're old.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
We've got is one of the best.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Keays.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yes, but we've got young just young studs ready to
make it.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Look they was, Look he's a beat Senegal.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Bo.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
What's all about USA? Yeah, okay, Senegal won the African
comp Nations.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
But we've won many things Conker calv Cup, We've won
so many things.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Erty whatever, dude, I can't talk to you about. This
is so disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Best I love this guy. He's delusion.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
I'm not delusional. How is that delusion? Bro, how's that delusion?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Whatever, you get to the semi finals, that's one of
the greatest World Cup feats.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It would be the greatest World Cup we've ever had.
We've never we've We've only been to the quarters one twice.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
That's what I mean. You know, that'd be one of
the like Cook get manager of the tournament that if
you got to the semis Yeah, but as I said,
you just might beat Belgium. I'll give you that game,
by the way, especially now that the red cards being Yeah,
some buttersfults in there, Spain or poetryal and I think
it'll be Spain that she's not beating them. Spain one
(41:18):
of the best teams in the world. That's one of
the best players in the world.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
We got to get back on track.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
But you're just so disrespectful to the United States team.
You won that fight in London, and there was a
little bit of a different side to Patty Pimbler right
at times. You can be fun on the microphone afterwards,
and you talked about men's mental health and you talked
a little bit about your friend Ricky.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
What does that What did that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Why did you feel like that was a time for
you to do that, and why is that important to you?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And well he had literally killed himself like six hours before.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
It was so so it was fresh on your mind
for you even going to octagon and fight, then heavy
on your heart.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I got a phone call like three am Friday morning,
so six hours before the way, and someone rang me
saying he's killed herself, and like he wasn't one of
my closest friends, know what I mean, But he was
me meat, Like he wasn't one of my best meat.
But no matter what, when we see each other, we'd
have a laugh, we talk, and we'd stay in touch.
So when I got told dark and Ember just crying
(42:24):
and getting in the bath on my own I like
three in the morning, just thinking, oh my god, this
this really happened. And then I'll never forget being in
the back before we walk and I was just fighting
Joan Levy and he come out. It ain't no mountain
high enough, And for some reason I made it made
me cry, you know what I mean, Imember crying walking
before the fire before my song come on. I was
stood in the back crying and Paul, that's like, give
(42:46):
me a hug. And then I just felt like it
was the right thing to do with fell out saying
if I hadn't rehearsed none of that, almous, it just
come out. And the amount of people that have spoke
to me since, bumped into me or mess me saying
like you saved my life, I'm like, I never you
saved your own life. I just said sot of twins
to get you to go and get out.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
But that's what it's about, right, using your platform to
inspire people.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
That's what I always say. It's nice to be nice,
you know what I mean. Some people who were in
our position wouldn't do that because they're like, oh, the bravado,
We've got to be this, You've got to be that.
Not asked the bar what other people think of me,
you know what I mean. I'd rather be honest because
I've been there all that stuggled in the past, especially
after whether I'd saying that's setting off of down. After
the UFCA and I lost my next fight and I
(43:31):
broke my hand and I was sitting out for like
eighteen months. I was in a bad way, a bad,
bad way, like I would have finished that fight in
the first round that but didn't go into the fight
with the broke hand, but I went into the fight
with the broken hand and I had a fully fled
RENATD choke on and couldn't finish it because my m
was that week. And then I lose the fight over
five rounds. And then I'm sitting out for literally eighty
(43:53):
fifteen to eighteen months as I can't fight because I'm injured.
And then you're just I was waking up every morning
crying just like my wife then girlfriend. My wife was
waking up away, giving me a kiss and leaving the house,
and I just add normally fall back a sleep. I
was rolling over and just balling my eyes out every morning.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
How'd you get through that?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
It was tough. It was really tough because I was
like another another normal manifest I was like goes to
people and start saying this and that. When I'm the fighter,
I know what I mean. I'm knowing that you'd be
strong in these positions and luckily enough, and then speaking
to me boxing coach Chris who being me corner on
the weekend, and he said, I don't you need to
do that and just speak to someone about it, like
(44:34):
get her off your chest, and literally I spoke to
him about her when I spoke to a lot of
about it and them speaking to paular Bard and it
was weird. I woke up the next morning I felt lighter.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Literally, I just kind of trying to get rid of
some of it.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And then I ended up going to counsel and now
I end up going to a place in Liverpool, James's Place.
I end up like sitting down and actually speaking to account.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Really that helped because most men trying not to do that,
They don't want to be able to go and reach
out and find that.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
No. I went and as I say, it helped me.
Loads still speak to her now, James, She's brilliant. Without
going and sitting and speaking to her, I don't know
if i'd still be he did.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Did that your friends passing in your issues? Is that
would helped you or inspired you to start the Baddy Foundation?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah? I played the big part and starting I'm through
the foundation. We have used her to donate money to
the place I went to, which is called James's Place
for counseling, and we don't need the money to that
to employ a full time member of staff for two years.
So there's another person for men to go and speak to.
James's Place is a men's only counseling place where you
(45:45):
only got one to one, but it's still happening that
Like literally it was a lad who come and watch
me fight to Miami. I think it's Michael Chandler. It
was just one year on a versy the other day, Maggie,
he just killed himself out of blue. Another fellow who
would know by our Scott he just killed himself. How
(46:05):
the blue? He'd just got married a couple of months
before and had two kids. People just I don't know, Dad,
especially in liverpools bad for it because there's like a
stigma against that. And that's why I said the exact
words what I said, I'd rather be make ca on
my shoulder than after carry is common.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, Petty, you have become a father. Now how's that
changed you.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Tenfold? I don't really feel it myself, but everyone else
says it to me. Eye says, oh, he's so different now,
You've like, I've got a lot more motivations to do things.
And I was already a hard worker and dedicated and discipline,
but I'm even more of all of them now, you
know what I mean? And everything the day was to
(46:54):
provide for me little girls, Like, that's another reason why
I knew I never had any quit in me. One.
Just think gay, he's on Safia punching you in the face, Like,
I'm not stopping you because I've got up my family
and if I get finished like this, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's easy when you can see your why, like your
why right is your wife.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And your kids. And when you can see that right.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
We always fighters always think are they know something inside
of them that propels them forward?
Speaker 1 (47:25):
But when they're right in front of.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
You, right a face, with your children, your family, it
makes it easier because you're not You don't have to
self motivate anymore because it's right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, they give me what you can up every morning.
And seeing their little smiles on the home that I'm
going to put oddway and to keep putting them smiles
on their faces makes every bit of odd way sweat, pain,
see blood.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I asked everybody this before I get them out of
this chair. I ask him years from now when people
talk about Patty Pemble, like, what do you want them
to remember?
Speaker 1 (48:02):
What do you want them to say? Not only about
Patty the fighter, but about Patty the man.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I want them to remember me as a well champion
by that time I'm done, you know what I mean.
I want them to remember that. I'd like them to
remember most of I'm just a nice person. And I
tell people, you know what I mean, because as I
said before, it's nice to be nice. You don't want
to be remembered there's a piece of shit, you know
what I mean. You don't want to be looked out
like a piece of shit like Kolby covingson. You want
(48:30):
to be looked out as a good person, a good father,
a good friend. Someone wasn't a wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Patty. I want to ask this before I let you go.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I know you haven't thought about it, but what if
the World Championship doesn't happen? Like, could you be okay?
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, You'll always be okay, But I know what's going
to happen. I know what you mean obviously.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I know you don't think about it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
But I like when someone is so tied to a
goal for so long, right, I mean sixteen years old?
Speaker 1 (49:03):
You know you. I just I had to do it too,
like I didn't win the Olympics and that, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Have more inspiration for the tone. I was just engaging. Yeah, yeah,
he was done. Everyone said he was finished. Everyone said
everyone was going to beat him. Just won the world
title of thirty seven. Yeah he did, and he did
it in and he'd done it in spectacular fashion. Yeah,
I've seen physic saying the same thing that motivated him
that most avaateed me. You know what I mean? That
(49:29):
got me me out of bed to go on saying
you know what I mean? That made me saying even
harder when I've seen him win that beltn't know anything
is possible. Everyone said that was impossible. Like that they
head dan Oka saying that interview. Does anybody year think
that just engage you can beat silly as a polia,
not one of you. Just put your hands up and
(49:50):
then just engage you when and beats early as a
polia made him look like a right's hit.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
You don't like Eli? What's this weekend look like? Patty?
What does this weekend look like? How does this fight
in between you and BSD?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I was saying, this is some of the other diacon
it being a pretty fast finished for me and a
performance of the night, or I can see it being
a little bit of a war on a Fight of
the night. Well, no matter of wa there's no way
I leave that cage. I'll get my unraised. Simple as that.
It's not it's not an option this weekend.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Patty, you the man, Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I appreciate this, guys. That was Patty to Patty Pimblet.
This dude is tremendous. Obviously he is trying to help
and uplift people from his community and everywhere else. Until
next time, guys like subscribe and tell your friends that
I got a YouTube channel and I'm chatting with guys
like Patty Pimbler for the Daniel Cormier Show. Until next time, Peace,
(50:47):
Good job Paddy. It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yeah, I enjoy it. The
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