Daniel Cormier is joined by Sean O’Malley ahead of his fight against Aiemann Zahabi at UFC Freedom 250 at the White House. Suga Sean talks about how this is a PERFECT matchup for him to deliver a LEGENDARY KNOCKOUT on the White House lawn. Sean is coming off a win over Song Yadong, and looking to get back to a title shot after losing his belt to Merab Dvalishvili. Sean is the American with the best odds to win on Sunday night, and he talks about whether he feels pressure to perform not only for himself, but for his country. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, guys, Hey, UFC Freedom two fifty goes down
this Sunday from the South Lawn at the United States
White House, and I'm drawn by the sugar show. Sean, O'Malley, Sean,
my brother, thank you so much for tapping with me again. Man,
I appreciate it big time fight card. Here's the thing, though, Sean,
we sat down. We're getting into this thing. I'm getting
(00:32):
to no Sean. Guys, I'm getting to no Sean. He
telling me about his history, he telling me about his job,
how all this other stuff. I tell him, Sean, would
you like to be on the White House?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You know, DC, Man, I might.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I might.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Now I don't like it. Next morning, Sewan's on the
White House. I mean, come on, my brother, you could
you could have told me?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Maybe not on camera. I hope Hunter sees this and says, hey,
we get trusted with the secret. That's what I still
a Hunter told me, Hey, fighting at the White House.
Don't tell anybody. I'm like, I took that. I took
that as all right. I'm not gonna tell anybody. I
don't want to take, you know, anything to happen. So
hopefully you know, if you ever need to tell me
a secret, DC that I'll keep it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, if I have a secret from you, I
think I got to keep one from you. Which one
I hope I'll find out? Like you're fighting for the
belt and then you want to know it, I'm not
going to tell you. That's been the only thing that
I could do, right, like everything else you gon know
before me, I sean. So you get that call that
you're fighting at the White House. You spoke about how
excited you would be to have this opportunity, you get it.
(01:34):
What was the reaction, right being that you had kind
of laid the foundation for possibly being in this position?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean opening up the paramount card in January.
I knew the White House card. I think it was
still June July. They didn't know. I'm like this, that
works out perfect. I get out of this fight healthy.
June July lines up perfectly. And you know, it's so
weird looking back on my career, like the first Cheeto loss,
how it led to great things, and then the Morob
loss and then it's you know, I'm fighting out the
White House right now, and who knows if I would have,
(02:01):
you know, won the belt, and then just timing didn't
work out all. It all works out for a reason.
We're fighting, and I love this stylistic matchup for me.
This is this is made for me. Go out there
and knock this dude out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So when you get Amon's a Hobby as an opponent, right,
you get the White House. But it's not necessarily that
big flashy name that generally is alongside Sean O'Malley, right,
because most times it's Sean Omalley, Rob Cheeto, Algael, like
big name guys, not a guy like Amon's a Hobby.
Were you surprised that that was the guy because he
(02:33):
was calling for you? But there are instances where I go, well,
Ben was Santani called out Dustin Poor and I was like,
he could call him out as much as he wanted,
he'll never get it. Then he got it. The Hobby
calls him, calls you out, and I'm like, I don't
think he'll get that fight, but then he gets it.
Like what was your reaction to it whenever you heard
(02:53):
that it would be aiming?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, I mean, yeah, he called me out, and then
you know, the paramount card came around and I'd reached
out to u FCS. I'll accept that offer, I'll accept
that call out. And they said UFC where people think
like UFC does their own thing. They're said, no, you're
fighting Song. I'm like, oh, that wasn't really on my radar.
Song's very dangerous guy. Yeah, that's who I fought. I
(03:15):
thought Song. You know, I asked for Peter at the
White House. I thought that was that bic. I thought
that was the fight to make you. And then they
offered me aiming. I said, well, shit, I'll try to
fight him.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Last fight over.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Hey, I'll fight in this time. So it works out,
and it all works out. Just trust the process for
me and uh, you know, go out there and get
a big win. We'll see what's next.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
As a guy that's dynamic, right, You're a very dynamic striker.
You move well inside the octagon, You've got championship level experience.
Aman's a hobby, doesn't pop off the pages. A dynamic guy.
He's tough, he's durable, but he doesn't have that thing
that makes you kind of go, oh my god. Amon's
a hobby. Do you believe that? Because he has that
(03:53):
style where he's very meat and potatoes, but he's very
good at what he does. He's very dangerous. Can that
style match up with the style that you have, or
will his style lead to him stepping into some of
those traps that's still get as said.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I you know, I picture this fight going that way exactly,
him stepping into these traps. And uh, I'm also been
around long enough to know fight anything could happen. You know,
anything could happened. I love this matchup for myself. I'm,
like you said, very dynamic. He's kind of he sees
similar to Cheeto in a sense, and I beat the
fuck out of Cheetoh. Like That's how I see this
fight going. Except for I think he's gonna pressure more,
(04:30):
which is gonna that knockout is gonna present itself more often,
so Aiming this is an opportunity for Aiming to build
his name. This is a massive opportunity for him, and uh,
you know that's dangerous. That's dangerous. That makes someone very
dangerous when this is his probably only opportunity. I mean,
although fight he will we capitalized the Cheeto fight, big
(04:52):
fight for him, capitalized. This is a next level, big
fight for him, big moment for him. So I'm expecting
him to come out there and be as good as
he possibly can.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Be when he won those fights. Those are massive names.
But everybody wants to say those wins are great. They
would have been better before. Right, this is your prime.
You're still Sean O'Malley coming off victory, just beat song.
You dong those dangerous in a title fight only two
fights ago. Someone said to me who benefits the most
(05:24):
from his card in terms of the visibility. I said
it would be Aman as a hobby if he is
able to win. You say that'd make some dangerous. But
why has he not resonated when he's won seven fights
in a row. Whereas if you win this fight, you're
probably next for a title fight.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, I mean I think the way he's winning to all,
the fight was epic. I rewatched he came back, Yeah,
I got soccer kick in the head. It ends up
winning the round like it was very impressive. It was epic.
The Cheeto fight was a close fight. Wasn't nothing stood out? Yeah?
I mean, who knows. Everyone stands out for different reasons.
This could be his moment. Morob didn't really have a
(06:01):
Morob wasn't really that guy. And then he beats me
with the spear and Rob kind of turns into it
super I mean, he did what he did and he
won big fights, title fight, like you know, he needed
an opportunity. Aimon's looking for this to be his opportunity,
and there's just no way that that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You're always around the title, right, it doesn't take it
should It doesn't take a guy that has a big
following and that can fight in the exciting style that
you do to work his way back to a championship opportunity.
Is just a win enough this weekend? Or do you
feel like you have to do something spectacular against Amon's
a hobby in order to earn that championship opportunity.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know, even if I go out there and get
a viral knockout, I don't know if I'm getting a
title shot. I think Peter and Rob has been lwer
like lingering around like Peter's getting hair and plants. He's
out for a little bit. Morob's nose is broke, So
we don't know what's gonna happen with that fight that's
supposedly that's going to get announced eventually. So you know,
I go out there knockout Amen, Do I take another fight?
Wait for the time title does it matter if Rob wins,
(07:02):
is that is that enough for me to get a
title shot? Or if Peter wins? For sure? So's There's
a lot going on depends, you know. I think first
things first, go out there, get a viral ko see
what happens with Peter and Rob.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Sean. When you look back on your life and now
that I recognize and understand a little bit about your
life before fighting, could you ever have imagined as that
kid that was in Montana right playing basketball, uh, moving
out to Arizona to fight, that you would have the
opportunity to fight at the White House, to fight on
(07:33):
the South Lawn, and not only be there, but be
one of the main card fighters, one of the guys
that the fight card is built around. Like, did you
ever imagine in your wildest dreams that this could be
a reality.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
In my wildest dreams, I pictured myself headlining, being a
suit superstar, But never at the White House. I mean
that doesn't even if anyone said their vision to that,
they're fucking lion or they're they yeah, time traveler, but
you know, no one could picture like it takes Trump
being our president and to be friends with Dana and
for them to just say let's have a fight at
(08:06):
the way House, like it takes that career. That's insane
to think about. But that's yeah, didn't envision that. As
far as being in the position I'm in, I definitely
saw this, envisioned this. I spoke it into existence in
a sense I.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Was telling uh, I was telling Cyril gun, this is
the only time since I retired. Then I'm like, damn,
that would have been nice. Like this would have been
the only time that I thought to myself, I missed
out on something in fighting you have C three hundred
could I didn't care the fear, didn't care, But like this,
I felt like, man, this would have been nice.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You'll be there.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'll be there, which is as good as it gets.
But I'll ask you this, though, is there a responsibility
right as the American guy to go out there truck
because the American guys are up against it, right, Justin's
a massive underdog. Chandler's a massive underdog. You aren't right,
You're a guy that's supposed to win on there this weekend.
Do you feel a responsibility to carry that flag and
(09:04):
go into the octagon and and get a victory?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Personally? No, I just for me, it's man versus man,
Like that's just what it always says every time I
enter the octagon. It's like I'm representing myself, my team,
and if ever other people want to look at it
as like a sporting team event USA vers Canada, I think,
I think that's great for me personally, Like I put
(09:29):
the pressure on myself to win, just in general, not
because I'm the American on the car that's supposed to win.
I just the pressure I feel is the pressure put
it myself because I know how good I am and
I know that I'm I'm better than this guy. So
I don't. But I think maybe looking back at after
it's all said and done, it who maybe maybe I
did a little bit. Yeah right now, It's like.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I was kind of meaning that, you know, at the
White House, American's Birthday, the US's birthday just seems like, man,
you guys, there's a little pressure for you guys to perform. Yeah,
as Americans, I'm telling you, as an American, the pressure
for you boys to go out there and try to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know, we gotta get it done.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, Sean, good luck this weekend, you know, man, bo,
Thank you guys. Sugar Shan O'Malley fights. Aman's a hobby
this weekend and you have ce freedom to fifty. Make
sure you guys go check out everything he's doing his
YouTube channel, follow all of his socials. He's a tremendous guy,
tremendous fighter. He will be in one of the biggest
fights in the history of mixed martial arts this coming Sunday.
(10:24):
Do not miss it until next time, Guys like a
subscribe Peace
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, guys, Hey, UFC Freedom two fifty goes down
this Sunday from the South Lawn at the United States
White House, and I'm drawn by the sugar show. Sean, O'Malley, Sean,
my brother, thank you so much for tapping with me again. Man,
I appreciate it big time fight card. Here's the thing, though, Sean,
we sat down. We're getting into this thing. I'm getting
(00:32):
to no Sean. Guys, I'm getting to no Sean. He
telling me about his history, he telling me about his job,
how all this other stuff. I tell him, Sean, would
you like to be on the White House?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You know, DC, Man, I might.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I might.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Now I don't like it. Next morning, Sewan's on the
White House. I mean, come on, my brother, you could
you could have told me?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Maybe not on camera. I hope Hunter sees this and says, hey,
we get trusted with the secret. That's what I still
a Hunter told me, Hey, fighting at the White House.
Don't tell anybody. I'm like, I took that. I took
that as all right. I'm not gonna tell anybody. I
don't want to take, you know, anything to happen. So
hopefully you know, if you ever need to tell me
a secret, DC that I'll keep it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, if I have a secret from you, I
think I got to keep one from you. Which one
I hope I'll find out? Like you're fighting for the
belt and then you want to know it, I'm not
going to tell you. That's been the only thing that
I could do, right, like everything else you gon know
before me, I sean. So you get that call that
you're fighting at the White House. You spoke about how
excited you would be to have this opportunity, you get it.
(01:34):
What was the reaction, right being that you had kind
of laid the foundation for possibly being in this position?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean opening up the paramount card in January.
I knew the White House card. I think it was
still June July. They didn't know. I'm like this, that
works out perfect. I get out of this fight healthy.
June July lines up perfectly. And you know, it's so
weird looking back on my career, like the first Cheeto loss,
how it led to great things, and then the Morob
loss and then it's you know, I'm fighting out the
White House right now, and who knows if I would have,
(02:01):
you know, won the belt, and then just timing didn't
work out all. It all works out for a reason.
We're fighting, and I love this stylistic matchup for me.
This is this is made for me. Go out there
and knock this dude out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So when you get Amon's a Hobby as an opponent, right,
you get the White House. But it's not necessarily that
big flashy name that generally is alongside Sean O'Malley, right,
because most times it's Sean Omalley, Rob Cheeto, Algael, like
big name guys, not a guy like Amon's a Hobby.
Were you surprised that that was the guy because he
(02:33):
was calling for you? But there are instances where I go, well,
Ben was Santani called out Dustin Poor and I was like,
he could call him out as much as he wanted,
he'll never get it. Then he got it. The Hobby
calls him, calls you out, and I'm like, I don't
think he'll get that fight, but then he gets it.
Like what was your reaction to it whenever you heard
(02:53):
that it would be aiming?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, I mean, yeah, he called me out, and then
you know, the paramount card came around and I'd reached
out to u FCS. I'll accept that offer, I'll accept
that call out. And they said UFC where people think
like UFC does their own thing. They're said, no, you're
fighting Song. I'm like, oh, that wasn't really on my radar.
Song's very dangerous guy. Yeah, that's who I fought. I
(03:15):
thought Song. You know, I asked for Peter at the
White House. I thought that was that bic. I thought
that was the fight to make you. And then they
offered me aiming. I said, well, shit, I'll try to
fight him.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Last fight over.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Hey, I'll fight in this time. So it works out,
and it all works out. Just trust the process for
me and uh, you know, go out there and get
a big win. We'll see what's next.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
As a guy that's dynamic, right, You're a very dynamic striker.
You move well inside the octagon, You've got championship level experience.
Aman's a hobby, doesn't pop off the pages. A dynamic guy.
He's tough, he's durable, but he doesn't have that thing
that makes you kind of go, oh my god. Amon's
a hobby. Do you believe that? Because he has that
(03:53):
style where he's very meat and potatoes, but he's very
good at what he does. He's very dangerous. Can that
style match up with the style that you have, or
will his style lead to him stepping into some of
those traps that's still get as said.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I you know, I picture this fight going that way exactly,
him stepping into these traps. And uh, I'm also been
around long enough to know fight anything could happen. You know,
anything could happened. I love this matchup for myself. I'm,
like you said, very dynamic. He's kind of he sees
similar to Cheeto in a sense, and I beat the
fuck out of Cheetoh. Like That's how I see this
fight going. Except for I think he's gonna pressure more,
(04:30):
which is gonna that knockout is gonna present itself more often,
so Aiming this is an opportunity for Aiming to build
his name. This is a massive opportunity for him, and uh,
you know that's dangerous. That's dangerous. That makes someone very
dangerous when this is his probably only opportunity. I mean,
although fight he will we capitalized the Cheeto fight, big
(04:52):
fight for him, capitalized. This is a next level, big
fight for him, big moment for him. So I'm expecting
him to come out there and be as good as
he possibly can.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Be when he won those fights. Those are massive names.
But everybody wants to say those wins are great. They
would have been better before. Right, this is your prime.
You're still Sean O'Malley coming off victory, just beat song.
You dong those dangerous in a title fight only two
fights ago. Someone said to me who benefits the most
(05:24):
from his card in terms of the visibility. I said
it would be Aman as a hobby if he is
able to win. You say that'd make some dangerous. But
why has he not resonated when he's won seven fights
in a row. Whereas if you win this fight, you're
probably next for a title fight.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, I mean I think the way he's winning to all,
the fight was epic. I rewatched he came back, Yeah,
I got soccer kick in the head. It ends up
winning the round like it was very impressive. It was epic.
The Cheeto fight was a close fight. Wasn't nothing stood out? Yeah?
I mean, who knows. Everyone stands out for different reasons.
This could be his moment. Morob didn't really have a
(06:01):
Morob wasn't really that guy. And then he beats me
with the spear and Rob kind of turns into it
super I mean, he did what he did and he
won big fights, title fight, like you know, he needed
an opportunity. Aimon's looking for this to be his opportunity,
and there's just no way that that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You're always around the title, right, it doesn't take it
should It doesn't take a guy that has a big
following and that can fight in the exciting style that
you do to work his way back to a championship opportunity.
Is just a win enough this weekend? Or do you
feel like you have to do something spectacular against Amon's
a hobby in order to earn that championship opportunity.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know, even if I go out there and get
a viral knockout, I don't know if I'm getting a
title shot. I think Peter and Rob has been lwer
like lingering around like Peter's getting hair and plants. He's
out for a little bit. Morob's nose is broke, So
we don't know what's gonna happen with that fight that's
supposedly that's going to get announced eventually. So you know,
I go out there knockout Amen, Do I take another fight?
Wait for the time title does it matter if Rob wins,
(07:02):
is that is that enough for me to get a
title shot? Or if Peter wins? For sure? So's There's
a lot going on depends, you know. I think first
things first, go out there, get a viral ko see
what happens with Peter and Rob.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Sean. When you look back on your life and now
that I recognize and understand a little bit about your
life before fighting, could you ever have imagined as that
kid that was in Montana right playing basketball, uh, moving
out to Arizona to fight, that you would have the
opportunity to fight at the White House, to fight on
(07:33):
the South Lawn, and not only be there, but be
one of the main card fighters, one of the guys
that the fight card is built around. Like, did you
ever imagine in your wildest dreams that this could be
a reality.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
In my wildest dreams, I pictured myself headlining, being a
suit superstar, But never at the White House. I mean
that doesn't even if anyone said their vision to that,
they're fucking lion or they're they yeah, time traveler, but
you know, no one could picture like it takes Trump
being our president and to be friends with Dana and
for them to just say let's have a fight at
(08:06):
the way House, like it takes that career. That's insane
to think about. But that's yeah, didn't envision that. As
far as being in the position I'm in, I definitely
saw this, envisioned this. I spoke it into existence in
a sense I.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Was telling uh, I was telling Cyril gun, this is
the only time since I retired. Then I'm like, damn,
that would have been nice. Like this would have been
the only time that I thought to myself, I missed
out on something in fighting you have C three hundred
could I didn't care the fear, didn't care, But like this,
I felt like, man, this would have been nice.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You'll be there.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'll be there, which is as good as it gets.
But I'll ask you this, though, is there a responsibility
right as the American guy to go out there truck
because the American guys are up against it, right, Justin's
a massive underdog. Chandler's a massive underdog. You aren't right,
You're a guy that's supposed to win on there this weekend.
Do you feel a responsibility to carry that flag and
(09:04):
go into the octagon and and get a victory?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Personally? No, I just for me, it's man versus man,
Like that's just what it always says every time I
enter the octagon. It's like I'm representing myself, my team,
and if ever other people want to look at it
as like a sporting team event USA vers Canada, I think,
I think that's great for me personally, Like I put
(09:29):
the pressure on myself to win, just in general, not
because I'm the American on the car that's supposed to win.
I just the pressure I feel is the pressure put
it myself because I know how good I am and
I know that I'm I'm better than this guy. So
I don't. But I think maybe looking back at after
it's all said and done, it who maybe maybe I
did a little bit. Yeah right now, It's like.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I was kind of meaning that, you know, at the
White House, American's Birthday, the US's birthday just seems like, man,
you guys, there's a little pressure for you guys to perform. Yeah,
as Americans, I'm telling you, as an American, the pressure
for you boys to go out there and try to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know, we gotta get it done.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, Sean, good luck this weekend, you know, man, bo,
Thank you guys. Sugar Shan O'Malley fights. Aman's a hobby
this weekend and you have ce freedom to fifty. Make
sure you guys go check out everything he's doing his
YouTube channel, follow all of his socials. He's a tremendous guy,
tremendous fighter. He will be in one of the biggest
fights in the history of mixed martial arts this coming Sunday.
(10:24):
Do not miss it until next time, Guys like a
subscribe Peace
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