December 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin Cowherd elevates Patriots QB Drake Maye into the elite quarterback conversation after another MVP-caliber performance in New England’s Monday Night Football win over the Giants
Giants QB Jaxson Dart needs to learn how to protect himself
The Cowboys continue to exceed expectations - Dak Prescott is the reason
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, it is a Tuesday show. Jim Harbass Stoppin' by
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Jackson dartboard he got smoke last night. It's the Herber
in Chicago, little snow. Last night's football season. Officially, wherever
you may be and however you may be listening, Thanks
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for making us part of your day. So I mean,
I'm I watched the game last night. I think Jackson
Dart has a chance to be a fine franchise quarterback
for the New York John. I mean, Manning wasn't even
the best manning Son and he won two Super Bowls
in New York. I think Jackson Dart's gonna have a
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fine career. Drake may It's a different discussion. He looks
like he's gonna be one of these guys about every
four years that enters the league and is an all
timer size arm iq. I mean, Drake May he just
doesn't miss. Even when he was missing in the end zone,
they were smart misses. Nobody else could get him. Didn't
have his left tackle, didn't have a left guard, doesn't
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have a number one wide receiver. They don't run the
ball particularly well. He had thirty points in the first half.
It was a show off flex game for New England.
That's been really good all season, but they don't get
many standalone games. And you know, one of the rules
when somebody's going to be great, they don't necessarily make
it look easy, but they make it look easier than
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it looks for ninety percent of the quarterbacks in the league.
Joe Burrow on third, he doesn't have a huge arm,
he's not a giant guy, he's not super mobile. It
just always puts the ball in the right place when
he's healthy. You know, like it's just great, looks a
lot easier. I watched Michael Jordan for years. He wasn't
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the best ball handler, he wasn't the strongest player. He
didn't have the best long range. Just like seventeen feet away,
he's couldn't stop him, and the first year he was
a little reckless, got hit too often. Beginning of this
year he wasn't quite there yet. But I watched in
the last four or five weeks. I was sitting there
waiting for his bubble to burst a little bit, you know,
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sophomore slump nup. He's getting better every week. This is
one of those guys that checks.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
All the boxes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Jackson Dart to me, feels like he is still to
some degree kind of winging it and doesn't quite see
the field as well as I'd like him to see
the field. Drake May, you're watching it in real time, stoic.
Not a lot of bad throws, not getting hit. I mean,
it's only listen, you get a franchise quarterback every year.
You get an old timer about every four or five years.
(03:07):
I think we found one. He is on pace to
be the greatest quarterback on first down in the history
of the game for a single season. Number two's Aaron Rodgers.
Number three his Drew Brees. And here's the thing. New
England's offensive roster is still at least one draft class away.
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They got to upgrade the old line upgrade. They need
more dynamic players at tight end and wide receiver. Their
run game again below average. So I and I am
watching them last night. I know anybody. I lived, you
know in New England territory for a decade. So I
watched every Patriot game during Brady Belichick, Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels.
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It's a very reminiscent team. There's a lot of do
your job efficiency, just like Belichick. Rabel's special teams are great,
and Josh McDaniel is designing the offense and play calling.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Craft still the owner.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Vrabel's a more player friendly version of Belichick, and Drake
May is a more mobile version of Brady. Tall guy,
smart guy, doesn't take a lot of hits, doesn't make
a lot of bad throws, super accurate. It's very reminiscent,
and it's almost like you ever have a car you
absolutely love and you eventually turn it in. You still
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love it, but it's getting a little old. You turn
it in and you get a newer version, same model.
That's what New England is. Vrabel is Belichick really cares
about special teams. He's just more player friendly and more current.
And Drake May has a lot of Brady accurate moves. Well,
doesn't take shots, not a lot of picks. He's just
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a little, a little more mobile. I'm getting the new
model of the car, and I just I'm not sure
if I love the mustache everything else. We say it
all the time, when you get the quarterback and the
coach right, it just doesn't take that long. There's so
much mediocrity in every business. Here's the other thing. They're
ahead of schedule. Drake may is two and a half
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years younger than Bo Nicks. He's a year younger than
Caleb Williams. He's two years younger than Michael Pennix. He's
a year and a half younger than Jayden Daniels. He's
younger than cam Ward and he's easily the best of
that group, the most accurate of that group, the most
poised of that group. Well, talent, talent is just part
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of the boxes you have to check. So there, I mean,
I watch him something I look for all the time.
Even his misses are smart, like those throws in the
back of the end zone. He had a deep ball,
only one guy was going to catch it at Patriot
he didn't get it. Nobody did. Even his missus are
in the right spot. He was a little he got
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took too many shots last year. Beginning of this year,
he wasn't quite there yet. But miss kid is I
mean two and a half years younger than bo Nicks,
he younger than cam Ward. And yes it helps that
he got Mike Frabele. Every great quarterback, however, has had generally,
you know, Marino had Don shul Brady at Belichick, Montana,
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at Bill Walsh.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Here is the coach and the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
After he's realizing what what he can be and what
the impact that he makes on this offense and being
the conductor, he's hard on himself. I think that he
challenges himself as well as his coaches, and I mean
he means a great deal to this football team.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Trying to be the face, trying to be the conductor
he called the conductor of the offense. They're trying to
be the face of the offense, trying to you want
the want, the want the pressure, you want to you know,
the ball in my hands.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And I've tried to.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Show that all year and and throughout my career. So
what you know, I kind of feel like and know
they feed off of me and feel off my energy
and you'll know me when diversity hits, you know, I
got to respond and from there I just got to be,
you know, the same guy, the same guy every day,
you know, don't try to change.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know, Drake May's first year, he didn't get the
right coach. By the second coach, they got the right guy.
His comp was Justin Herbert, who had to go through
a couple of coaches and get the you know what
beat out of him until he got Jim Harbaugh. Then
their offensive line fell apart, and he's still getting beat up.
But a lot of this dynamic is I watched the
last night and I saw what you saw. It was
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very reminiscent of the old Patriots. Great special teams, excellent coach,
very good on details, big tall quarterback, stole, it doesn't
make a lot of mistakes. And Josh McDaniels designing and
calling the plays. So Dallas plays Detroit on Thursday. I
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like Dallas in that game. And they just beat Philly,
and they just beat Kansas City. Dallas will make the
Herd higher today. I'll tell you in advance. They are six'
five and. ONE i thought they'd win four games this,
year tops. Five look at their. Schedule they can win.
Out if they, Do dak will make the playoffs and
(08:14):
will have made the playoffs With Jason, Garrett mike, McCarthy
And Brian. Schottenheimer, translation the head coach just doesn't mean that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Much With Dak.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Prescott when he first came into the, LEAGUE i thought
his success was. Circumstantial he was A b QUARTERBACK bb.
Plus but he had the best online easily in, football
the best running back arguably in, football rookie, contract they
stack the. Roster he is currently guiding the number one
offense in THE, nfl and he will do it with
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a third different head coach and most of. US i
Like Jason garrett more than other, people but a lot
of you didn't Like Jason. Garrett almost nobody Like Brian
schottenheimer And Mike McCarthy's a coin flip depending on which
room he, answer and he keeps being number. ONE i
talked about conversations Changing Dak prescott's all time. Rank this
(09:08):
is year. Ten he's got five or six. Left this
is the best he's ever. Played he's got at least
five years. Left top ten in completion, percentage touchdown to, interception.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Radio and passion. Rating it is.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Time it is time we start having a different. Conversation,
Listen SAMUEL. L jackson started acting in his. Seventies he
didn't become a big time star until he was nine
in the. Nineties it's not Like SAMUEL. L jackson just
became a really good actor in the. Nineties he finally
got an. Opportunity Quentin tarantino, right Like amazon didn't make
(09:38):
money for twenty one. Years like sometimes it takes, longer
the bake is longer to see. Greatness but you, know
people have said That Philip rivers will Get hall Of fame,
votes AND i. Agree and one of the REASONS i
agree Because Philip rivers made the playoffs With Marty schottenheimer
And Norv turner And Anthony lynn And Frank reich And mike.
(09:59):
McCoy he made the playoffs with five different. Coaches not
everybody Gets belichick out Of, michigan AND i Love, brady
but Sometime mahomes Gets Andy. Reid you got a meddling,
owner you got a lot of. Noise And Dak prescott
is proving once. Again and this is what the great ones.
Do they rise above the. Environment they are not held.
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Down and people will, say, well he hadn't that great
success in the. Playoffs Dan marina Had don shul as
a head coach sub five hundred in the. Playoffs Lamar
jackson Has John harbaugh as a. Coach Lamar jackson struggled
in the. Playoffs Aaron. RODGERS i think he's one game
above five. Hundred he's considered an absolute top ten legend
(10:45):
of all. Time you can't hold playoffs against the. GUY i,
Mean Eli manning's regular season numbers will not be as
good As, dak's but he Won Super, bowl so absolutely
a Super bowl would Help. Dak nobody's disputing. That BUT
i Think dak's very. UNIQUE i always say By thanksgiving
of your second, YEAR i feel very CONFIDENT i CAN
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i can call you what you. Are but you, Know
baker took a, While darnold took a. While Dak, prescott
we gotta he's. Hot he's got the number one offense,
Again he's got a coach not everybody. Loves, again the
past protection with this offensive line is not. Ideal they're
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making big trades in the middle of a. Season Dak
Thursday lions get A w, seven five and one Playoffs,
again Here's.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Dak i'd been on other teams where you started off
hot and you're at this time of the year trying,
to you, know figure out what you've got to do
to get back on the horse and to have the.
Moment and we do right now the confidence AND i
just had the right guys in the locker room who
understand where we, are who understand that this is the
most important time of the, year and showing that in
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just their daily prepping throughout the week is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Fun, yep he's put his head down. Listen seinfeld almost got. Canceled,
Similarly dak has been very good in. Syndication every Time i'm,
like all, right He's Kirk cousins with a star in his,
helmet little better.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Mobility who is the Best i've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Him it's not everybody is a child actor or De
niro and taxi. Driver it takes a lot of actors
a long time and a lot of writers to have
their first great. Novel dak has been a slow. Bake
but if he Wins, thursday you can roll your eyes
all you. Want you start doing a deep dive on
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all his career. Numbers he's playing better than he ever
has in year. Ten what he didn't have four or
five years. Left he's gonna end up top five to
six in a lot of. Stats he just needs a
couple of pelts in the. Postseason j mac, LISTEN i can.
Acknowledge it took me a while to figure him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Out but he's. Good he's and we both Like dallas
against The Lions. Thursday so you have One hall Of fame.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Vote, okay you can only vote for vote for one
of these two, Guys Russell wilson Or Dak.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Prescott.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Dak, oh come, on well da in Annoy russell had great.
Success who one coach one?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Team how Many? Superables how Many Super?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Bowls, well, again you're asking. ME i didn't say it
was a. Landslide BUT i also think one of the
things you have to consider when it's closed is, intangibles.
Leadership there's a lot of things to. Consider it's not
just you. KNOW i, mean Like russ has dived at
the end of his, Career dak's getting.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Better can we get a conference championship game appearance before
before we carve up the bust for The hall Of?
Fame just a conference title? Game that's all of. Asking
But i'm getting very.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
EXCITED i can tell you're fired. Up Oh, no it's
JUST i, mean he's this guy's played out of his.
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Subscribe all, right there was a moment last night's game
Where Jackson dark runs early in the, game team trailing
and gets absolutely and it's illegal, hit gets absolutely smoked
on the, sidelines got way too. Cute this is a
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guy that lives in the blue. Tent and it was
ten to, nothing it was first, quarter this was not
THE nfc. Championship fourth. Quarter try to get a first
down to get to A Super?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Bowl, bro what are you?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Doing and after the, game oh, boy here's what he said.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Is there anything you would have done different on that. One, no.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Look LIKE i understand the, question but like this is
like this is, Football Like i'm gonna get hit If
i'm in the pocket or outside the. Pocket i've played
this way my whole entire. Life this shouldn't be like
any shock or anybody if you've followed along with my.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Career, okay so.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
When anybody says it's just part of the game for,
linebackers not for. Quarterbacks the second thing, IS i don't
like this quote when he, says Like i've played my
entire career this. Way this is Not Corner Canyon High
school In. Utah, okay that's not what we're doing. Here smart,
people including football, players. Evolve lots of things are cool
at nineteen beer, bongs.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
They're not at twenty. Two when you're the face of
The New York.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Giants it's like WHAT i HEAR nba players Like Jahn,
morant hey, man this is just my, game and they
rely on super athleticism And Jahn morant like never. Changes
John wall had this, component hey, man this is my. Game,
well in this episode Of Let's Keep It, Real exit stayed.
Right you have to evolve the. Game you have to
be able to shoot. Threes you've got to improve elements
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of your. GAME i don't want to. Hear, hey it's just.
Football no quarterback should ever take a hit like. That and,
again if you're stretching for a first down at the
marker to get to a Super bowl or win, one
it's a different. Conversation this is a first quarter game
and you're not making the. Playoffs and The New York
giants have not had a quarterback start and finish the
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season every start Since Eli. Manning and this kid has
lived in the blue. Tent so to, me it just
lacks a self aware and there's there. Again Kevin durant
And Tyrese halliburton got to THE Nba finals and there
was a, risk right they, Said i'm gonna play because
you're planning for a. Trophy Even Bill belichick had a
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legendary rule with The, patriots do not stretch the ball
out for a first down unless it's the Super bowl
and we're going to win. It like there are exceptions to,
everything you can't take that. Hit so it just it's just,
again there's a gigantic gap in this. League kd And
(17:35):
Tyrese halliburton risking their health to hoist a.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
TROPHY i got. YOU i get it.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
THAT i.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Understand pacers may never get back. There kd may never
get back. There but that's not smart AND i don't
want to hear this is my, Game, no it's. NOT
i Mean Lebron, james until about six year years, ago
was adding elements to his game every. YEAR i, mean
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if you've been in THE nba for twelve, Years Kevin,
duran at this, point your game is your. Game it's
not your first four years in THE. Nba and it's
not for a quarterback in year. One this is JUST i,
MEAN i like his. Confidence he's a bit of a.
Playmaker his accuracy is good. Enough you, know he's a.
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Shador sanders and he both like to air it out.
Downfield they take big. Swings that's a LOT i like about.
Him but, well you, know it's, football that's. Right it's not.
Football that's the one where you can flop overseas football six,'
six two hundred and fifty eight pound defensive ends who
can Bench Press rhode island should never get a clean shot, at,
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you ever. Any circumstances for, The record drake may first
year spent some time in the.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Blue tenth stay out, of it stay away from the.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Blue Tent peyton Manning And tom brady made art out
of avoiding the. Big HIT and i know bike helmets.
Aren't cool where? One please this is a it's a
top five hit.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
In the league.
Speaker 10 (19:14):
This year.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What are? We Doing j mack with? The news this
is the herd. LINE news i. Like her he lives
in the.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Blue tent he's. Paying rent he spends so much time
in the.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Blue tent, all right let's Go.
Speaker 10 (19:33):
To, Lane.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
KIFFIN colin, i mean this story is just continues to
be bonkers and college football fans are. Going crazy so
he was introduced as LSU's Coach. On, monday obviously everybody
knows he tried to Still Coach old miss while TAKING the.
Lsu job he was, denied that but he did get one,
Thing Interesting. Old miss if they win in, the playoff
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THEY will lsu Will Pay lane kiffin what he would
Earned For. Old miss, Just. Crazy Colin here's kiffin at his.
Speaker 11 (20:03):
Press Conference Leaving old miss was, extremely difficult extremely, difficult
decision and in that we tried every every single thing
possible to continue to coach the team through.
Speaker 12 (20:17):
THE playoffs i ken the players in, the end that
was their decision and we totally. Respect THAT but lsu
is the best job. In football when you take, the, history,
tradition passion and the great players in the State, of
louisiana no one can. Argue that when You're In tiger
(20:38):
Stadium on, saturday night there is nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
LIKE it i want to tell you, right now he
is gonna win a national CHAMPIONSHIP. At, lsu okay, oh,
yeah Absolutely ed orzer On one, Natty there laney.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Guy has never.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Won anything can we settle DOWN with LANKIVI and i
know he's a good coach and he knows offense hasn't won.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Anything ever can we relax a little bit? On that
win a?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
National championship won a lot of, Rivalry games he's won
a lot of. Big game if you're IN the fcc
and winning, eleven games you've won a lot of.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Big games he's a.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Good coach That's, On, tanabo well win. A nationals give
me a timetable.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
On that what are?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
You talking seven years and, a way by the Way Before,
jim harball who's on the, show today Won a Natty.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
AT michigan i heard a lot of, this, Well no
i've never.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Won anything are You Denying jim harbaugh as one of
the top five coaches of? Our?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Lifetime, wait, no, no, No no harball won like, Division titles
he WON an nfc.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Championship game that.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
STUFF matters, I mean kifvin's never done any, OF that,
i mean can we let's just get the basic stuff
out of. The Way but, i'm curious do you think
that like this is gonna happen sooner, than Later because
i'll tell you. Right now LSU's not going to the playoff?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Next year, oh yeah. No chance have you looked at?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
The? Schedule, yeah, no shot we'll look At the, Rams schedule,
Niners twice, Seahawks Twice. Philadelphia eagles so what if, you're
great you, WIN games lsu is gonna be great?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Next, season, Well hey texas was great this year nine.
And three they're probably not going to make. THE playoffs
sec is, really.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Hard man that's why THIS whole.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Lsu stuff you know WHAT the sec is? Next year five.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
New coaches i'd RATHER have lsu new coach with their
players the. Whole Conference kirby, smart's THERE but I mean
Kaylin de borr now is in year three it's got
five new coaches in, the conference so it's. WIDE open,
I mean i put it down. RIGHT now i may
buy season tickets JUST so i can get there for the.
PLAYOFF game Lsu And lane kiffin are making.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
The playoffs I'll say texas is definitely making it. Next
year Arts staying. Sarcus staying they're. A lot it Sounds
like matier is not. Going anywhere he's a good quarterback
and if he was healthy the. Full Season maybe oklahoma
is close, to Undefeated so okahoma is better. Than them
alabama will see what they do.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
AT quarterback I.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Just i don't see it INSTANTLY. FROM lsu i think
in like, three years could they be?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Eleven?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Wins sure three years, Transfer, portal oh they're gonna step up.
AND buy i mean they're gonna land like six five.
Star guys they're gonna land four or five star guys in.
The portal and by, The, way brian it's not like
he's taking over Old miss THEY'VE got nfl.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Bodies EVERYWHERE last lsu trip to the Playoff Was.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Joe burrow that was. Ages ago for, the record they,
won it.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
They, did yeah many teams have been in the playoffs,
Since then i'm just not BUYING this, lsu LIFE and
I think i'm gonna. Double down YOU and i are
gonna go ahead to head for the next. FEW years
I don't i just don't think this is gonna. Work
Out but i'm probably in. The minority, next up let's
go To The Kansas.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
City.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Chiefs colin, they listen they're down bad. Right, now okay
line dropping Against. The texans they are two games back
of a lot of teams in the. Wildcard Chase But,
andy reid, oh boy he refuses to hear any.
Speaker 13 (23:47):
Of that.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
If you're coming to me, On, This matt i'm, telling
you we're gonna go after you, every game and you
know that's how. We roll we're gonna try to tickle
your tonsil on every, every play. Every game and but
that's that's the attitude that we're coming. In with then
then that you let the chips farward.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
They may i'll, say THIS if i had to win
one game with an offense that's been a, LITTLE uneven
i would not want to Face, the texans who have won.
Four straight the defense, is good. Mostly HEALTHY. C j
stroud now is back in.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
This, schedule well The, schedule colin there's a world where
they sweep all These the Raiders. And titans they're winning,
those two so that's. Two wins right then you've got
the rematch With the broncos. At home you Got the chargers.
At home why Aren't they they're going to be favored
in those games. At Home this texans one day are
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favored Five and o's.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
In play those are.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
All close three of those games are going to. Be
close how have they been in close games?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
This, year well a lot of them have been on,
the road and for unfortunately For, the chiefs a lot
of these are. AT home i, don't know, TRUST me
i don't want to See the chiefs in. The playoffs by,
the way are.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
They in the?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Hurt hierarchy if, they are we're gonna have to have
a chat. OFF air, i mean this is not except
they're definitely not a top ten team in the league.
Right now, Final, Story colin let's go To The. PRO
bowl i know you Love The. Pro bowl how about?
This Shocker The detroit lions have eleven players eleven in
the top Ten.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Of pro bowl votes at their.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Respective Position jamior gibbs obviously's.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Up There.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
The lions have a lot of. Good, plays colin this
is a team that's probably gonna miss.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The, PLAYOFFS yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I know, i mean this is why this all goes back.
To something remember that they were In the Hall of
fame game and they. Were atrocious remember in, the PRESEASON
and i said this, is, bad right, Right right and
because they made coaching changes and then. They Stabilized but i've,
always said the longer a.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Season goes the truth.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Comes out like the longer the, Season Goes, Drake man,
mike's rabel it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
A mirage they're.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Really good the longer the season, Goes well denver keeps.
Winning Games bo Nicks And, sean payton they. Work together
the longer the, Season Goes dak presscott in the offense keeps.
Getting better they got a lot of. Good players pickens was.
A steal the longer the season goes For, the lions
the worst they get on, third down the worst they
get on. Fourth down it's not a. Player issue it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So what are we?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Doing Here Is dan kimball's? A, problem No It's, dan
Campbell Like nick sirianni is a bit more Coordinator to
pendent Mcphay's knock. Shanahan's not That's, why belichick by, the
Way kept josh. McDaniels forever he wasn't an offensive. Scheme
guy so they got to get the right. Right now
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it's it's just not tied. It up And green bay
looks Like A super. Bowl team chicago's a number, one
seats so they're Lucky in Detroit that minnesota is kind
of playing with their food and can't figure it out
Because green Bay and chicago Are. Green bay after that Went,
over detroit there's an argument there as good as anybody
in the league.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Right now and by, the way can We Call cowboys
lions an elimination Game because cowboys cannot lose.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It if they want to get in.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
The playoffs there's just too many good teams IN, the
NFC and i do believe For the lions with, their
schedule this is an. Elimination game this has.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
To be every trick in.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
The book and by, the Way, no laporta No Aman,
ROSSE brown, i.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Know more pressure. On golf good.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Luck keeping up With that.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Dallas, offense yeah j McK with, The news well that's,
the news and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Line NEWS so i read a, Headline Today shador sanders deserves.
MORE time, i agree the rest Of the browns operation.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Does not so.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
About twenty five, years ago oh it was over thirty.
YEARS ago i had a very smart news director tell.
Me something his Name Is. Mike cutler, he SAID if
I if i fire an anchor or a reporter and
they don't, GET hired i made the. Right MOVE if
i fire an anchor and a reporter and they get
a job immediately in a, GOOD job i probably made.
(28:11):
A Mistake kevin stefanski would get a job and a
good job. Very, quickly folks we are just two. Years
removed if you think About Firing kevin stefanski two, YEARS
removed i don't even think it's officially two years From
the browns being eleven and six and their Quarterbacks Were,
Deshaun Watson, JOE Flacco, Pj Walker jeff driscoll And dtr
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and they were IN, the afc and they were eleven
and six WHEN the afc at that point probably the,
best Conference. So Cleveland firing stefanski would be A very
cleveland thing where they can't even identify in the building. Who's,
GOOD so, i mean it's just think about this think
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About what Stefanski And andrew barry have to overcome. This
Morning deshaun watson is a bigger cap hit this Year
Than jordan Love Or. Patrick mahomes now think about that
you wake up in. The morning that's Why What sean
payton's Done in Denver With russell wilson's cap hit. Is
remarkable and The Owner, jimmy haslam and he deserves credit for,
(29:18):
acknowledging it but he's the one that made.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That Move The deshaun.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Watson move So If mike Tomlin, exits pittsburgh many are suggesting,
he should and there.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Are discussions now.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
It's possible one of the top candidates For the STEELERS
job i would think would have To Be. Kevin stefanski
he knows. The division so the market tells you when
you make. A mistake remember When The tennessee Titans Fired,
mike vrabel the market told You the jets, wanted Him
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the patriots, wanted him Everybody Wanted. Mike rabel cowboy fans.
Wanted it the market, Told, you tennis he made. A
Mistake and i'm just, telling You if stefanski's on, the
market he's going to get. A job and it may
be really Close. To cleveland it could be. In Division
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zach taylor's only got one. Year left they're Not getting
they're Not Giving joe burrow a, STIFF right, I Mean
joe burrow's not happy With. The bengals now they're going
to hire somebody who knows the division. Offensive guy So
here's stefanski this week on should or coming off.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
A loss he wants to continue to get better, and
better and that's the right attitude, to have and that's
that's why we'll continue. To work there are things that
he wants back that we're coaching up right now that
he can. Improve upon but bottom line is we have
to continue to put our players in position. To succeed
so just looking forward to that constant Improvement with shador
and for all of our.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Young players just go back a couple of years ago eleven.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
AND.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Six afc buffalo is better, Than Now kansas city was
better than. Than Now the bengals were arguably better then.
THAN now, i mean go.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Back a couple of.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
YEARS ago afc was stacked eleven, and six and go
look at the quarterbacks that. Were playing it was just a.
Revolving door it was a merry. Go Round so i'm
going To Defend, Kevin Stefanski dylan gabriel stabilize. The offense
schador gives them. MORE pop i think he's a really.
GOOD coach i think it's a mistake to Fire. In
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chicago It's.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
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Speaker 1 (31:37):
So, you know there's a lot of things people can
use for tie breakers IN the nfl or.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
College football.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
One of the THINGS that i mean to me the
most important part of, college football because schedules. ARE uneven,
i mean you got the big ten nine. Conference GAMES
the sec is just getting into nine. Conference game the
schedules have. Been UNEVEN so i always look at the
end of, the year give me your, biggest games give
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me the absolute biggest games. You've Played so indiana had
a very, soft schedule but they Did play Oregon at
oatson and.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They rolled so, it's, like Okay and illinois is. Pretty
good they beat him by.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Fifty three so in the two games where they faced a,
really good, solid team they were.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Totally impressive but they didn't have a.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
GREAT schedule i guess They wanted iowa they didn't have a,
great SCHEDULE so i don't want an ugly Loss.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
With indiana they didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Have One but Texas played oklahoma. Hammered him texas a
and m. Dominated him vandy was, top ten, thumped him
was thumping him in the. Fourth, quarter well they Lost
At ohio state by. A touchdown since, That Game ohio
state wins by thirty one. A game they're the only
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team in the country That Gave ohio state a. Good
game and they were introducing four new offensive linemen And
arch banning, biggest game. Massive pressure nobody was Talking About
julian sayan before. That game the pressure was all On.
Arch banning it Was, in COLUMBUS so i in their. Biggest,
games sorry THAT'S why i Say. About alabama their biggest
game this year Was. At georgia they. Were, flawless yeah.
(33:23):
They stumbled alabama Lost To florida state just become a
hasmat spill of. A program but when they Went to georgia,
this year they. Were perfect and that counts as like
three wins.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
To me Winning.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
In ATHENS so i here's sark yesterday on being punished
mostly for a loss in the game they Scheduled in.
Speaker 13 (33:47):
COLUMBUS unequivocally i think we should be in. The playoffs
i'm actually kind of shocked you're actually having a discussion.
About this, but again there's two teams raked in front
of us that we just beat on the little concerned
about what the committee's. Looking at and to, your point
if we're just gonna look, AT records i got to
reevaluate our future SCHEDULES because i have to do what's
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in the best interests Of the University. Of texas if
we're gonna look, AT records i got to Make sure
i'm putting us in position to have the best record
possible at the end of, the season as opposed to
playing really good teams and then looking at the total.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Body Work so, Miami's complaining, miami's, going well We Beat
notre dame head, to head and the voters, are like.
So What so miami's not getting credit for a win
over their, best Opponent and texas is getting penalized for
losing the best team in the country close on.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
The road another Thing in.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Texas's favor like, Last Year notre dame lost at Home
To northern illinois.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And then got To. The natty these are young kids.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
They change texas right now is playing really, good football
the best they've played. All Year arch manning over the last,
five games, sixteen touchdowns. Two Picks so i've always said
even more so than. The pros we. All know in
the pros You see belichick's, Worst Month sean payton's worst Month. Easily,
september well, in college the kids are. Even younger you
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only get seventeen hours. Of PRACTICE so i am always
well if you schedule a tough. GAME early i said
last Year When ohio state Lost, AT autsin, i said
they're gonna. Play Again ohio state's gonna, BEAT them, i
said after they Lost, TO michigan, I Said OHIO state
i still think and Win.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
The natty everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Bailed on him because the young, kids, class midterms fall,
in love bad game. High, in look anybody got kids
up and down UP into. Nfl teams you kind of by,
this time get. Consistent Efforts new england's been good now for.
Eight weeks they're, pretty, Good RIGHT so i Would have,
texas in, You Know Miami.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Notre, dame.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Listen head, to head first Game in august isn't the
be all, End all but if you start looking at
common Opponents with Miami And notre dame the four, Common
opponents miami beat three or four. More soundly and it's
not like the, Fourth Opponent, notre dame beating them by.
One thousand miami also Crushed. Them syracuse So Here's urban
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Meyer on texas and what to do.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
WITH them I think texas deserves me in, the PLAYOFF
and i would not penalize that Loss Against. Ohio state
you can't. Do that you can't or you're getting ready
to see old dominions gonna become a favorite of all
these big teams playing or teams like that because. They
need no One cares Indiana is no one's saying a
Word about indiana's non, conference schedule No. One yet texas
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made a decision to get on a plane and go
play the number one team in the country or to
number two team in the country.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
On, the road and they got beaten a.
Speaker 10 (36:50):
Tough game and now there's a chance because of that
they'll be because if they didn't play.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That game we won't be out in.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
This Conversation so indiana played a really really weak got
on the phone and dialed up very weak out of.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Conference teams but.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
When they Did face illinois, destroyed them and when they
Went to oregon. They won if they Lose, TO illinois
i don't feel the Same about indiana Schedules WEEK so
i think a lot of times my perception of a
team is who'd? You play who did you get on
the phone and? Dial up who are the best teams?
You play how did? You perform i'm not looking for
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perfection and the tougher, your Schedule and texas had, A
gauntlet i'll give you a. Bad loss indiana doesn't get a,
bad loss and they didn't. Have, One texas i'll give
you a. Bad, Loss Oklahoma, Georgia Vandy. OHIO state, i
mean we said this before the. Season Started the texas schedule,
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was brutal. Absolutely Brutal so i'll give You the florida
loss for.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
The record back TO. The nfl.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
We and what's going to be really interesting with these
college football discussions tonight they come out with the. Latest
Rankings notre Dame in miami they're, done playing And so
miami just. LOOKED great i Am Because notre dame was
slightly ahead.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
OF them i.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
AM fascinated I said I Had notre Dame above, miami
too despite the head. To head but after, that win all,
you know everything's.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Been baked not.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
PLAYING again i have a hard Time putting Miami Behind.
Notre DAME and I Think notre dame would be favored if.
They PLAY and I Think notre dame right now because
the run game, is BETTER but i don't. Know that
so now that all the results, are in it's gonna
be hard to Not put Miami Above.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Notre dame.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
VERY difficult i Don't Think notre Dame or miami are national,
championship teams but that's not the. Argument here the argument
is who does to be in, the playoff and it
can't BE who i think. WOULD win, i mean you
play the games for. A reason i can't wait. For
tonight SPEAKING of nfl And The New, england patriots here's what's.
(39:15):
Really interesting so for about a five, year PERIOD the
afc kept hitting in all. The quarterbacks they Hit on
Burrow and Mahomes and Allen and LAMAR.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
AND.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
C j Stroud.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And herbert they were all good AND the afc felt
much better THAN. The nfc that is not the case.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
This year so go look AT the afc.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Playoff picture if you went to the, playoffs today if
You're Doubting. New england the number two Seed, is denver
who scores mostly in the. Fourth quarter do You trust
jacksonville is a? Three seed baltimore is playing, Awful football
herbert's got a. Hand surgery they're the, Fifth seed colts
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regressing six. And no but he knows what to Do with.
Buffalo seven so what's interesting?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Right now IN?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
The Afc, no Burrow, No mahomes, Herbert's, Hurt. Jags colts
so for Anybody Doubting, new england look. At this this
is one of these odd years where the best quarterbacks
may not make the playoffs and the number two and
three and four seeds aren't necessarily. Playing great if you
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go TO, the nfc it's a. DIFFERENT ballgame nfc.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Is STACKED.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
The nfc you can go to the, Seventh Seed, san
francisco nine. AND four I Think san francisco could play
its way INTO The. AFC championship i don't know if,
they'd WIN but I think I think SAN franc i
Mean green bay is a. Sixth SEED now i Think
green bay would WIN. THE afc I think seattle would
WIN the afc a, five SEED and i Know the,
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Rams WOULD so i mean, Right now dallas could run
the table and actually.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Miss.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
The playoffs so you could have an excellent team miss
the playoffs IN. The nfc go look at AGAIN the
afc In What new england may get and as a
number one seed they get A buy so if they're,
dinged up. THEY'RE healthy, i mean this was. The year
sometimes timing really plays. Your Favor no, borough today no
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mahomes Lamar Struggling josh allen didn't have, a defense
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for making us part of your day. So I mean,
I'm I watched the game last night. I think Jackson
Dart has a chance to be a fine franchise quarterback
for the New York John. I mean, Manning wasn't even
the best manning Son and he won two Super Bowls
in New York. I think Jackson Dart's gonna have a
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fine career. Drake may It's a different discussion. He looks
like he's gonna be one of these guys about every
four years that enters the league and is an all
timer size arm iq. I mean, Drake May he just
doesn't miss. Even when he was missing in the end zone,
they were smart misses. Nobody else could get him. Didn't
have his left tackle, didn't have a left guard, doesn't
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have a number one wide receiver. They don't run the
ball particularly well. He had thirty points in the first half.
It was a show off flex game for New England.
That's been really good all season, but they don't get
many standalone games. And you know, one of the rules
when somebody's going to be great, they don't necessarily make
it look easy, but they make it look easier than
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it looks for ninety percent of the quarterbacks in the league.
Joe Burrow on third, he doesn't have a huge arm,
he's not a giant guy, he's not super mobile. It
just always puts the ball in the right place when
he's healthy. You know, like it's just great, looks a
lot easier. I watched Michael Jordan for years. He wasn't
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the best ball handler, he wasn't the strongest player. He
didn't have the best long range. Just like seventeen feet away,
he's couldn't stop him, and the first year he was
a little reckless, got hit too often. Beginning of this
year he wasn't quite there yet. But I watched in
the last four or five weeks. I was sitting there
waiting for his bubble to burst a little bit, you know,
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sophomore slump nup. He's getting better every week. This is
one of those guys that checks.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
All the boxes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Jackson Dart to me, feels like he is still to
some degree kind of winging it and doesn't quite see
the field as well as I'd like him to see
the field. Drake May, you're watching it in real time, stoic.
Not a lot of bad throws, not getting hit. I mean,
it's only listen, you get a franchise quarterback every year.
You get an old timer about every four or five years.
(03:07):
I think we found one. He is on pace to
be the greatest quarterback on first down in the history
of the game for a single season. Number two's Aaron Rodgers.
Number three his Drew Brees. And here's the thing. New
England's offensive roster is still at least one draft class away.
(03:28):
They got to upgrade the old line upgrade. They need
more dynamic players at tight end and wide receiver. Their
run game again below average. So I and I am
watching them last night. I know anybody. I lived, you
know in New England territory for a decade. So I
watched every Patriot game during Brady Belichick, Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels.
(03:51):
It's a very reminiscent team. There's a lot of do
your job efficiency, just like Belichick. Rabel's special teams are great,
and Josh McDaniel is designing the offense and play calling.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Craft still the owner.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Vrabel's a more player friendly version of Belichick, and Drake
May is a more mobile version of Brady. Tall guy,
smart guy, doesn't take a lot of hits, doesn't make
a lot of bad throws, super accurate. It's very reminiscent,
and it's almost like you ever have a car you
absolutely love and you eventually turn it in. You still
(04:29):
love it, but it's getting a little old. You turn
it in and you get a newer version, same model.
That's what New England is. Vrabel is Belichick really cares
about special teams. He's just more player friendly and more current.
And Drake May has a lot of Brady accurate moves. Well,
doesn't take shots, not a lot of picks. He's just
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a little, a little more mobile. I'm getting the new
model of the car, and I just I'm not sure
if I love the mustache everything else. We say it
all the time, when you get the quarterback and the
coach right, it just doesn't take that long. There's so
much mediocrity in every business. Here's the other thing. They're
ahead of schedule. Drake may is two and a half
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years younger than Bo Nicks. He's a year younger than
Caleb Williams. He's two years younger than Michael Pennix. He's
a year and a half younger than Jayden Daniels. He's
younger than cam Ward and he's easily the best of
that group, the most accurate of that group, the most
poised of that group. Well, talent, talent is just part
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of the boxes you have to check. So there, I mean,
I watch him something I look for all the time.
Even his misses are smart, like those throws in the
back of the end zone. He had a deep ball,
only one guy was going to catch it at Patriot
he didn't get it. Nobody did. Even his missus are
in the right spot. He was a little he got
(05:58):
took too many shots last year. Beginning of this year,
he wasn't quite there yet. But miss kid is I
mean two and a half years younger than bo Nicks,
he younger than cam Ward. And yes it helps that
he got Mike Frabele. Every great quarterback, however, has had generally,
you know, Marino had Don shul Brady at Belichick, Montana,
(06:20):
at Bill Walsh.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Here is the coach and the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
After he's realizing what what he can be and what
the impact that he makes on this offense and being
the conductor, he's hard on himself. I think that he
challenges himself as well as his coaches, and I mean
he means a great deal to this football team.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Trying to be the face, trying to be the conductor
he called the conductor of the offense. They're trying to
be the face of the offense, trying to you want
the want, the want the pressure, you want to you know,
the ball in my hands.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And I've tried to.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Show that all year and and throughout my career. So
what you know, I kind of feel like and know
they feed off of me and feel off my energy
and you'll know me when diversity hits, you know, I
got to respond and from there I just got to be,
you know, the same guy, the same guy every day,
you know, don't try to change.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know, Drake May's first year, he didn't get the
right coach. By the second coach, they got the right guy.
His comp was Justin Herbert, who had to go through
a couple of coaches and get the you know what
beat out of him until he got Jim Harbaugh. Then
their offensive line fell apart, and he's still getting beat up.
But a lot of this dynamic is I watched the
last night and I saw what you saw. It was
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very reminiscent of the old Patriots. Great special teams, excellent coach,
very good on details, big tall quarterback, stole, it doesn't
make a lot of mistakes. And Josh McDaniels designing and
calling the plays. So Dallas plays Detroit on Thursday. I
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like Dallas in that game. And they just beat Philly,
and they just beat Kansas City. Dallas will make the
Herd higher today. I'll tell you in advance. They are six'
five and. ONE i thought they'd win four games this,
year tops. Five look at their. Schedule they can win.
Out if they, Do dak will make the playoffs and
(08:14):
will have made the playoffs With Jason, Garrett mike, McCarthy
And Brian. Schottenheimer, translation the head coach just doesn't mean that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Much With Dak.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Prescott when he first came into the, LEAGUE i thought
his success was. Circumstantial he was A b QUARTERBACK bb.
Plus but he had the best online easily in, football
the best running back arguably in, football rookie, contract they
stack the. Roster he is currently guiding the number one
offense in THE, nfl and he will do it with
(08:44):
a third different head coach and most of. US i
Like Jason garrett more than other, people but a lot
of you didn't Like Jason. Garrett almost nobody Like Brian
schottenheimer And Mike McCarthy's a coin flip depending on which
room he, answer and he keeps being number. ONE i
talked about conversations Changing Dak prescott's all time. Rank this
(09:08):
is year. Ten he's got five or six. Left this
is the best he's ever. Played he's got at least
five years. Left top ten in completion, percentage touchdown to, interception.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Radio and passion. Rating it is.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Time it is time we start having a different. Conversation,
Listen SAMUEL. L jackson started acting in his. Seventies he
didn't become a big time star until he was nine
in the. Nineties it's not Like SAMUEL. L jackson just
became a really good actor in the. Nineties he finally
got an. Opportunity Quentin tarantino, right Like amazon didn't make
(09:38):
money for twenty one. Years like sometimes it takes, longer
the bake is longer to see. Greatness but you, know
people have said That Philip rivers will Get hall Of fame,
votes AND i. Agree and one of the REASONS i
agree Because Philip rivers made the playoffs With Marty schottenheimer
And Norv turner And Anthony lynn And Frank reich And mike.
(09:59):
McCoy he made the playoffs with five different. Coaches not
everybody Gets belichick out Of, michigan AND i Love, brady
but Sometime mahomes Gets Andy. Reid you got a meddling,
owner you got a lot of. Noise And Dak prescott
is proving once. Again and this is what the great ones.
Do they rise above the. Environment they are not held.
(10:23):
Down and people will, say, well he hadn't that great
success in the. Playoffs Dan marina Had don shul as
a head coach sub five hundred in the. Playoffs Lamar
jackson Has John harbaugh as a. Coach Lamar jackson struggled
in the. Playoffs Aaron. RODGERS i think he's one game
above five. Hundred he's considered an absolute top ten legend
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of all. Time you can't hold playoffs against the. GUY i,
Mean Eli manning's regular season numbers will not be as
good As, dak's but he Won Super, bowl so absolutely
a Super bowl would Help. Dak nobody's disputing. That BUT
i Think dak's very. UNIQUE i always say By thanksgiving
of your second, YEAR i feel very CONFIDENT i CAN
(11:09):
i can call you what you. Are but you, Know
baker took a, While darnold took a. While Dak, prescott
we gotta he's. Hot he's got the number one offense,
Again he's got a coach not everybody. Loves, again the
past protection with this offensive line is not. Ideal they're
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making big trades in the middle of a. Season Dak
Thursday lions get A w, seven five and one Playoffs,
again Here's.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Dak i'd been on other teams where you started off
hot and you're at this time of the year trying,
to you, know figure out what you've got to do
to get back on the horse and to have the.
Moment and we do right now the confidence AND i
just had the right guys in the locker room who
understand where we, are who understand that this is the
most important time of the, year and showing that in
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just their daily prepping throughout the week is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Fun, yep he's put his head down. Listen seinfeld almost got. Canceled,
Similarly dak has been very good in. Syndication every Time i'm,
like all, right He's Kirk cousins with a star in his,
helmet little better.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Mobility who is the Best i've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Him it's not everybody is a child actor or De
niro and taxi. Driver it takes a lot of actors
a long time and a lot of writers to have
their first great. Novel dak has been a slow. Bake
but if he Wins, thursday you can roll your eyes
all you. Want you start doing a deep dive on
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all his career. Numbers he's playing better than he ever
has in year. Ten what he didn't have four or
five years. Left he's gonna end up top five to
six in a lot of. Stats he just needs a
couple of pelts in the. Postseason j mac, LISTEN i can.
Acknowledge it took me a while to figure him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Out but he's. Good he's and we both Like dallas
against The Lions. Thursday so you have One hall Of fame.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Vote, okay you can only vote for vote for one
of these two, Guys Russell wilson Or Dak.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Prescott.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Dak, oh come, on well da in Annoy russell had great.
Success who one coach one?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Team how Many? Superables how Many Super?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Bowls, well, again you're asking. ME i didn't say it
was a. Landslide BUT i also think one of the
things you have to consider when it's closed is, intangibles.
Leadership there's a lot of things to. Consider it's not
just you. KNOW i, mean Like russ has dived at
the end of his, Career dak's getting.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Better can we get a conference championship game appearance before
before we carve up the bust for The hall Of?
Fame just a conference title? Game that's all of. Asking
But i'm getting very.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
EXCITED i can tell you're fired. Up Oh, no it's
JUST i, mean he's this guy's played out of his.
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Speaker 1 (14:35):
Subscribe all, right there was a moment last night's game
Where Jackson dark runs early in the, game team trailing
and gets absolutely and it's illegal, hit gets absolutely smoked
on the, sidelines got way too. Cute this is a
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guy that lives in the blue. Tent and it was
ten to, nothing it was first, quarter this was not
THE nfc. Championship fourth. Quarter try to get a first
down to get to A Super?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Bowl, bro what are you?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Doing and after the, game oh, boy here's what he said.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Is there anything you would have done different on that. One, no.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Look LIKE i understand the, question but like this is
like this is, Football Like i'm gonna get hit If
i'm in the pocket or outside the. Pocket i've played
this way my whole entire. Life this shouldn't be like
any shock or anybody if you've followed along with my.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Career, okay so.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
When anybody says it's just part of the game for,
linebackers not for. Quarterbacks the second thing, IS i don't
like this quote when he, says Like i've played my
entire career this. Way this is Not Corner Canyon High
school In. Utah, okay that's not what we're doing. Here smart,
people including football, players. Evolve lots of things are cool
at nineteen beer, bongs.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
They're not at twenty. Two when you're the face of
The New York.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Giants it's like WHAT i HEAR nba players Like Jahn,
morant hey, man this is just my, game and they
rely on super athleticism And Jahn morant like never. Changes
John wall had this, component hey, man this is my. Game,
well in this episode Of Let's Keep It, Real exit stayed.
Right you have to evolve the. Game you have to
be able to shoot. Threes you've got to improve elements
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of your. GAME i don't want to. Hear, hey it's just.
Football no quarterback should ever take a hit like. That and,
again if you're stretching for a first down at the
marker to get to a Super bowl or win, one
it's a different. Conversation this is a first quarter game
and you're not making the. Playoffs and The New York
giants have not had a quarterback start and finish the
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season every start Since Eli. Manning and this kid has
lived in the blue. Tent so to, me it just
lacks a self aware and there's there. Again Kevin durant
And Tyrese halliburton got to THE Nba finals and there
was a, risk right they, Said i'm gonna play because
you're planning for a. Trophy Even Bill belichick had a
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legendary rule with The, patriots do not stretch the ball
out for a first down unless it's the Super bowl
and we're going to win. It like there are exceptions to,
everything you can't take that. Hit so it just it's just,
again there's a gigantic gap in this. League kd And
(17:35):
Tyrese halliburton risking their health to hoist a.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
TROPHY i got. YOU i get it.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
THAT i.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Understand pacers may never get back. There kd may never
get back. There but that's not smart AND i don't
want to hear this is my, Game, no it's. NOT
i Mean Lebron, james until about six year years, ago
was adding elements to his game every. YEAR i, mean
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if you've been in THE nba for twelve, Years Kevin,
duran at this, point your game is your. Game it's
not your first four years in THE. Nba and it's
not for a quarterback in year. One this is JUST i,
MEAN i like his. Confidence he's a bit of a.
Playmaker his accuracy is good. Enough you, know he's a.
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Shador sanders and he both like to air it out.
Downfield they take big. Swings that's a LOT i like about.
Him but, well you, know it's, football that's. Right it's not.
Football that's the one where you can flop overseas football six,'
six two hundred and fifty eight pound defensive ends who
can Bench Press rhode island should never get a clean shot, at,
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you ever. Any circumstances for, The record drake may first
year spent some time in the.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Blue tenth stay out, of it stay away from the.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Blue Tent peyton Manning And tom brady made art out
of avoiding the. Big HIT and i know bike helmets.
Aren't cool where? One please this is a it's a
top five hit.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
In the league.
Speaker 10 (19:14):
This year.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What are? We Doing j mack with? The news this
is the herd. LINE news i. Like her he lives
in the.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Blue tent he's. Paying rent he spends so much time
in the.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Blue tent, all right let's Go.
Speaker 10 (19:33):
To, Lane.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
KIFFIN colin, i mean this story is just continues to
be bonkers and college football fans are. Going crazy so
he was introduced as LSU's Coach. On, monday obviously everybody
knows he tried to Still Coach old miss while TAKING the.
Lsu job he was, denied that but he did get one,
Thing Interesting. Old miss if they win in, the playoff
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THEY will lsu Will Pay lane kiffin what he would
Earned For. Old miss, Just. Crazy Colin here's kiffin at his.
Speaker 11 (20:03):
Press Conference Leaving old miss was, extremely difficult extremely, difficult
decision and in that we tried every every single thing
possible to continue to coach the team through.
Speaker 12 (20:17):
THE playoffs i ken the players in, the end that
was their decision and we totally. Respect THAT but lsu
is the best job. In football when you take, the, history,
tradition passion and the great players in the State, of
louisiana no one can. Argue that when You're In tiger
(20:38):
Stadium on, saturday night there is nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
LIKE it i want to tell you, right now he
is gonna win a national CHAMPIONSHIP. At, lsu okay, oh,
yeah Absolutely ed orzer On one, Natty there laney.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Guy has never.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Won anything can we settle DOWN with LANKIVI and i
know he's a good coach and he knows offense hasn't won.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Anything ever can we relax a little bit? On that
win a?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
National championship won a lot of, Rivalry games he's won
a lot of. Big game if you're IN the fcc
and winning, eleven games you've won a lot of.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Big games he's a.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Good coach That's, On, tanabo well win. A nationals give
me a timetable.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
On that what are?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
You talking seven years and, a way by the Way Before,
jim harball who's on the, show today Won a Natty.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
AT michigan i heard a lot of, this, Well no
i've never.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Won anything are You Denying jim harbaugh as one of
the top five coaches of? Our?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Lifetime, wait, no, no, No no harball won like, Division titles
he WON an nfc.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Championship game that.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
STUFF matters, I mean kifvin's never done any, OF that,
i mean can we let's just get the basic stuff
out of. The Way but, i'm curious do you think
that like this is gonna happen sooner, than Later because
i'll tell you. Right now LSU's not going to the playoff?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Next year, oh yeah. No chance have you looked at?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
The? Schedule, yeah, no shot we'll look At the, Rams schedule,
Niners twice, Seahawks Twice. Philadelphia eagles so what if, you're
great you, WIN games lsu is gonna be great?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Next, season, Well hey texas was great this year nine.
And three they're probably not going to make. THE playoffs
sec is, really.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Hard man that's why THIS whole.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Lsu stuff you know WHAT the sec is? Next year five.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
New coaches i'd RATHER have lsu new coach with their
players the. Whole Conference kirby, smart's THERE but I mean
Kaylin de borr now is in year three it's got
five new coaches in, the conference so it's. WIDE open,
I mean i put it down. RIGHT now i may
buy season tickets JUST so i can get there for the.
PLAYOFF game Lsu And lane kiffin are making.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
The playoffs I'll say texas is definitely making it. Next
year Arts staying. Sarcus staying they're. A lot it Sounds
like matier is not. Going anywhere he's a good quarterback
and if he was healthy the. Full Season maybe oklahoma
is close, to Undefeated so okahoma is better. Than them
alabama will see what they do.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
AT quarterback I.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Just i don't see it INSTANTLY. FROM lsu i think
in like, three years could they be?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Eleven?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Wins sure three years, Transfer, portal oh they're gonna step up.
AND buy i mean they're gonna land like six five.
Star guys they're gonna land four or five star guys in.
The portal and by, The, way brian it's not like
he's taking over Old miss THEY'VE got nfl.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Bodies EVERYWHERE last lsu trip to the Playoff Was.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Joe burrow that was. Ages ago for, the record they,
won it.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
They, did yeah many teams have been in the playoffs,
Since then i'm just not BUYING this, lsu LIFE and
I think i'm gonna. Double down YOU and i are
gonna go ahead to head for the next. FEW years
I don't i just don't think this is gonna. Work
Out but i'm probably in. The minority, next up let's
go To The Kansas.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
City.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Chiefs colin, they listen they're down bad. Right, now okay
line dropping Against. The texans they are two games back
of a lot of teams in the. Wildcard Chase But,
andy reid, oh boy he refuses to hear any.
Speaker 13 (23:47):
Of that.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
If you're coming to me, On, This matt i'm, telling
you we're gonna go after you, every game and you
know that's how. We roll we're gonna try to tickle
your tonsil on every, every play. Every game and but
that's that's the attitude that we're coming. In with then
then that you let the chips farward.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
They may i'll, say THIS if i had to win
one game with an offense that's been a, LITTLE uneven
i would not want to Face, the texans who have won.
Four straight the defense, is good. Mostly HEALTHY. C j
stroud now is back in.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
This, schedule well The, schedule colin there's a world where
they sweep all These the Raiders. And titans they're winning,
those two so that's. Two wins right then you've got
the rematch With the broncos. At home you Got the chargers.
At home why Aren't they they're going to be favored
in those games. At Home this texans one day are
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favored Five and o's.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
In play those are.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
All close three of those games are going to. Be
close how have they been in close games?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
This, year well a lot of them have been on,
the road and for unfortunately For, the chiefs a lot
of these are. AT home i, don't know, TRUST me
i don't want to See the chiefs in. The playoffs by,
the way are.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
They in the?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Hurt hierarchy if, they are we're gonna have to have
a chat. OFF air, i mean this is not except
they're definitely not a top ten team in the league.
Right now, Final, Story colin let's go To The. PRO
bowl i know you Love The. Pro bowl how about?
This Shocker The detroit lions have eleven players eleven in
the top Ten.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Of pro bowl votes at their.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Respective Position jamior gibbs obviously's.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Up There.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
The lions have a lot of. Good, plays colin this
is a team that's probably gonna miss.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The, PLAYOFFS yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I know, i mean this is why this all goes back.
To something remember that they were In the Hall of
fame game and they. Were atrocious remember in, the PRESEASON
and i said this, is, bad right, Right right and
because they made coaching changes and then. They Stabilized but i've,
always said the longer a.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Season goes the truth.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Comes out like the longer the, Season Goes, Drake man,
mike's rabel it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
A mirage they're.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Really good the longer the season, Goes well denver keeps.
Winning Games bo Nicks And, sean payton they. Work together
the longer the, Season Goes dak presscott in the offense keeps.
Getting better they got a lot of. Good players pickens was.
A steal the longer the season goes For, the lions
the worst they get on, third down the worst they
get on. Fourth down it's not a. Player issue it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So what are we?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Doing Here Is dan kimball's? A, problem No It's, dan
Campbell Like nick sirianni is a bit more Coordinator to
pendent Mcphay's knock. Shanahan's not That's, why belichick by, the
Way kept josh. McDaniels forever he wasn't an offensive. Scheme
guy so they got to get the right. Right now
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it's it's just not tied. It up And green bay
looks Like A super. Bowl team chicago's a number, one
seats so they're Lucky in Detroit that minnesota is kind
of playing with their food and can't figure it out
Because green Bay and chicago Are. Green bay after that Went,
over detroit there's an argument there as good as anybody
in the league.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Right now and by, the way can We Call cowboys
lions an elimination Game because cowboys cannot lose.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It if they want to get in.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
The playoffs there's just too many good teams IN, the
NFC and i do believe For the lions with, their
schedule this is an. Elimination game this has.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
To be every trick in.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
The book and by, the Way, no laporta No Aman,
ROSSE brown, i.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Know more pressure. On golf good.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Luck keeping up With that.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Dallas, offense yeah j McK with, The news well that's,
the news and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Line NEWS so i read a, Headline Today shador sanders deserves.
MORE time, i agree the rest Of the browns operation.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Does not so.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
About twenty five, years ago oh it was over thirty.
YEARS ago i had a very smart news director tell.
Me something his Name Is. Mike cutler, he SAID if
I if i fire an anchor or a reporter and
they don't, GET hired i made the. Right MOVE if
i fire an anchor and a reporter and they get
a job immediately in a, GOOD job i probably made.
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A Mistake kevin stefanski would get a job and a
good job. Very, quickly folks we are just two. Years
removed if you think About Firing kevin stefanski two, YEARS
removed i don't even think it's officially two years From
the browns being eleven and six and their Quarterbacks Were,
Deshaun Watson, JOE Flacco, Pj Walker jeff driscoll And dtr
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and they were IN, the afc and they were eleven
and six WHEN the afc at that point probably the,
best Conference. So Cleveland firing stefanski would be A very
cleveland thing where they can't even identify in the building. Who's,
GOOD so, i mean it's just think about this think
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About what Stefanski And andrew barry have to overcome. This
Morning deshaun watson is a bigger cap hit this Year
Than jordan Love Or. Patrick mahomes now think about that
you wake up in. The morning that's Why What sean
payton's Done in Denver With russell wilson's cap hit. Is
remarkable and The Owner, jimmy haslam and he deserves credit for,
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acknowledging it but he's the one that made.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That Move The deshaun.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Watson move So If mike Tomlin, exits pittsburgh many are suggesting,
he should and there.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Are discussions now.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
It's possible one of the top candidates For the STEELERS
job i would think would have To Be. Kevin stefanski
he knows. The division so the market tells you when
you make. A mistake remember When The tennessee Titans Fired,
mike vrabel the market told You the jets, wanted Him
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the patriots, wanted him Everybody Wanted. Mike rabel cowboy fans.
Wanted it the market, Told, you tennis he made. A
Mistake and i'm just, telling You if stefanski's on, the
market he's going to get. A job and it may
be really Close. To cleveland it could be. In Division
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zach taylor's only got one. Year left they're Not getting
they're Not Giving joe burrow a, STIFF right, I Mean
joe burrow's not happy With. The bengals now they're going
to hire somebody who knows the division. Offensive guy So
here's stefanski this week on should or coming off.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
A loss he wants to continue to get better, and
better and that's the right attitude, to have and that's
that's why we'll continue. To work there are things that
he wants back that we're coaching up right now that
he can. Improve upon but bottom line is we have
to continue to put our players in position. To succeed
so just looking forward to that constant Improvement with shador
and for all of our.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Young players just go back a couple of years ago eleven.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
AND.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Six afc buffalo is better, Than Now kansas city was
better than. Than Now the bengals were arguably better then.
THAN now, i mean go.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Back a couple of.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
YEARS ago afc was stacked eleven, and six and go
look at the quarterbacks that. Were playing it was just a.
Revolving door it was a merry. Go Round so i'm
going To Defend, Kevin Stefanski dylan gabriel stabilize. The offense
schador gives them. MORE pop i think he's a really.
GOOD coach i think it's a mistake to Fire. In
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chicago It's.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
The herd be sure to catch live editions Of the
herd weekdays And noone easter Not. A empacific.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So, you know there's a lot of things people can
use for tie breakers IN the nfl or.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
College football.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
One of the THINGS that i mean to me the
most important part of, college football because schedules. ARE uneven,
i mean you got the big ten nine. Conference GAMES
the sec is just getting into nine. Conference game the
schedules have. Been UNEVEN so i always look at the
end of, the year give me your, biggest games give
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me the absolute biggest games. You've Played so indiana had
a very, soft schedule but they Did play Oregon at
oatson and.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They rolled so, it's, like Okay and illinois is. Pretty
good they beat him by.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Fifty three so in the two games where they faced a,
really good, solid team they were.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Totally impressive but they didn't have a.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
GREAT schedule i guess They wanted iowa they didn't have a,
great SCHEDULE so i don't want an ugly Loss.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
With indiana they didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Have One but Texas played oklahoma. Hammered him texas a
and m. Dominated him vandy was, top ten, thumped him
was thumping him in the. Fourth, quarter well they Lost
At ohio state by. A touchdown since, That Game ohio
state wins by thirty one. A game they're the only
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team in the country That Gave ohio state a. Good
game and they were introducing four new offensive linemen And
arch banning, biggest game. Massive pressure nobody was Talking About
julian sayan before. That game the pressure was all On.
Arch banning it Was, in COLUMBUS so i in their. Biggest,
games sorry THAT'S why i Say. About alabama their biggest
game this year Was. At georgia they. Were, flawless yeah.
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They stumbled alabama Lost To florida state just become a
hasmat spill of. A program but when they Went to georgia,
this year they. Were perfect and that counts as like
three wins.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
To me Winning.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
In ATHENS so i here's sark yesterday on being punished
mostly for a loss in the game they Scheduled in.
Speaker 13 (33:47):
COLUMBUS unequivocally i think we should be in. The playoffs
i'm actually kind of shocked you're actually having a discussion.
About this, but again there's two teams raked in front
of us that we just beat on the little concerned
about what the committee's. Looking at and to, your point
if we're just gonna look, AT records i got to
reevaluate our future SCHEDULES because i have to do what's
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in the best interests Of the University. Of texas if
we're gonna look, AT records i got to Make sure
i'm putting us in position to have the best record
possible at the end of, the season as opposed to
playing really good teams and then looking at the total.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Body Work so, Miami's complaining, miami's, going well We Beat
notre dame head, to head and the voters, are like.
So What so miami's not getting credit for a win
over their, best Opponent and texas is getting penalized for
losing the best team in the country close on.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
The road another Thing in.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Texas's favor like, Last Year notre dame lost at Home
To northern illinois.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And then got To. The natty these are young kids.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
They change texas right now is playing really, good football
the best they've played. All Year arch manning over the last,
five games, sixteen touchdowns. Two Picks so i've always said
even more so than. The pros we. All know in
the pros You see belichick's, Worst Month sean payton's worst Month. Easily,
september well, in college the kids are. Even younger you
(35:16):
only get seventeen hours. Of PRACTICE so i am always
well if you schedule a tough. GAME early i said
last Year When ohio state Lost, AT autsin, i said
they're gonna. Play Again ohio state's gonna, BEAT them, i
said after they Lost, TO michigan, I Said OHIO state
i still think and Win.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
The natty everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Bailed on him because the young, kids, class midterms fall,
in love bad game. High, in look anybody got kids
up and down UP into. Nfl teams you kind of by,
this time get. Consistent Efforts new england's been good now for.
Eight weeks they're, pretty, Good RIGHT so i Would have,
texas in, You Know Miami.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Notre, dame.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Listen head, to head first Game in august isn't the
be all, End all but if you start looking at
common Opponents with Miami And notre dame the four, Common
opponents miami beat three or four. More soundly and it's
not like the, Fourth Opponent, notre dame beating them by.
One thousand miami also Crushed. Them syracuse So Here's urban
(36:20):
Meyer on texas and what to do.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
WITH them I think texas deserves me in, the PLAYOFF
and i would not penalize that Loss Against. Ohio state
you can't. Do that you can't or you're getting ready
to see old dominions gonna become a favorite of all
these big teams playing or teams like that because. They
need no One cares Indiana is no one's saying a
Word about indiana's non, conference schedule No. One yet texas
(36:43):
made a decision to get on a plane and go
play the number one team in the country or to
number two team in the country.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
On, the road and they got beaten a.
Speaker 10 (36:50):
Tough game and now there's a chance because of that
they'll be because if they didn't play.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That game we won't be out in.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
This Conversation so indiana played a really really weak got
on the phone and dialed up very weak out of.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Conference teams but.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
When they Did face illinois, destroyed them and when they
Went to oregon. They won if they Lose, TO illinois
i don't feel the Same about indiana Schedules WEEK so
i think a lot of times my perception of a
team is who'd? You play who did you get on
the phone and? Dial up who are the best teams?
You play how did? You perform i'm not looking for
(37:27):
perfection and the tougher, your Schedule and texas had, A
gauntlet i'll give you a. Bad loss indiana doesn't get a,
bad loss and they didn't. Have, One texas i'll give
you a. Bad, Loss Oklahoma, Georgia Vandy. OHIO state, i
mean we said this before the. Season Started the texas schedule,
(37:48):
was brutal. Absolutely Brutal so i'll give You the florida
loss for.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
The record back TO. The nfl.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
We and what's going to be really interesting with these
college football discussions tonight they come out with the. Latest
Rankings notre Dame in miami they're, done playing And so
miami just. LOOKED great i Am Because notre dame was
slightly ahead.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
OF them i.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
AM fascinated I said I Had notre Dame above, miami
too despite the head. To head but after, that win all,
you know everything's.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Been baked not.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
PLAYING again i have a hard Time putting Miami Behind.
Notre DAME and I Think notre dame would be favored if.
They PLAY and I Think notre dame right now because
the run game, is BETTER but i don't. Know that
so now that all the results, are in it's gonna
be hard to Not put Miami Above.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Notre dame.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
VERY difficult i Don't Think notre Dame or miami are national,
championship teams but that's not the. Argument here the argument
is who does to be in, the playoff and it
can't BE who i think. WOULD win, i mean you
play the games for. A reason i can't wait. For
tonight SPEAKING of nfl And The New, england patriots here's what's.
(39:15):
Really interesting so for about a five, year PERIOD the
afc kept hitting in all. The quarterbacks they Hit on
Burrow and Mahomes and Allen and LAMAR.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
AND.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
C j Stroud.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And herbert they were all good AND the afc felt
much better THAN. The nfc that is not the case.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
This year so go look AT the afc.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Playoff picture if you went to the, playoffs today if
You're Doubting. New england the number two Seed, is denver
who scores mostly in the. Fourth quarter do You trust
jacksonville is a? Three seed baltimore is playing, Awful football
herbert's got a. Hand surgery they're the, Fifth seed colts
(39:56):
regressing six. And no but he knows what to Do with.
Buffalo seven so what's interesting?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Right now IN?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
The Afc, no Burrow, No mahomes, Herbert's, Hurt. Jags colts
so for Anybody Doubting, new england look. At this this
is one of these odd years where the best quarterbacks
may not make the playoffs and the number two and
three and four seeds aren't necessarily. Playing great if you
(40:28):
go TO, the nfc it's a. DIFFERENT ballgame nfc.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Is STACKED.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
The nfc you can go to the, Seventh Seed, san
francisco nine. AND four I Think san francisco could play
its way INTO The. AFC championship i don't know if,
they'd WIN but I think I think SAN franc i
Mean green bay is a. Sixth SEED now i Think
green bay would WIN. THE afc I think seattle would
WIN the afc a, five SEED and i Know the,
(40:52):
Rams WOULD so i mean, Right now dallas could run
the table and actually.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Miss.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
The playoffs so you could have an excellent team miss
the playoffs IN. The nfc go look at AGAIN the
afc In What new england may get and as a
number one seed they get A buy so if they're,
dinged up. THEY'RE healthy, i mean this was. The year
sometimes timing really plays. Your Favor no, borough today no
(41:22):
mahomes Lamar Struggling josh allen didn't have, a defense
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