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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Was that a heater last night?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Or what?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
How great is college football? The Miami Hurricanes will play.
They are back for a national championship ten days from now.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's the Herd. We're in La.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Wherever you may be, however you may be listening or watching.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Yes, I
will have a blazing five. I will I found a
fifth game. Tu bet we had a great season sixty percent.
I feel pretty good about it. It's our postseason blazing five.
I'm not letting you erode our regular season winning percentage.
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We go to our postseason blazing five. Jay McK and
I sat and watched that game together last night, maybe
over a cold brew. Wow wow. So let's start with
this Miami. The Miami Hurricanes, regardless of who they play,
will be the most talented team in the National Championship.
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They've got more talent in Indiana, and they got more
talent than Oregon, and they physically dominated Ole Miss, but
Ole Miss took two fourth quarter leads. That's why I'm
not sure if Miami can beat in Indiana. Between the
Hurricanes drop passes, drop picks, late hits, penalties, and weird
play calling, you let your opponent back in games all year.
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Miami needed a touchdown with eighteen seconds left, yet they
had a forty one minute to eighteen minute time of
possession advantage.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
They pushed All Miss all over the field.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You can't beat Indiana and be that inefficient. I don't
care how much more talent you have, you may may
be able to beat Oregon. I mean, why did Carson
Beck throw thirty seven times? Why he could have thrown
seven times. They were running all overall Miss, and they
started doing flea flickers and difficult passes and risky sideline throws.
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I don't know if Miami plays complimentary football, but it
is just a flood of speed and size and strength
and power and aggressiveness and let's just see what happens.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So, if you.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Want to watch talent turn on the Miami Hurricanes, a
team that's massively improved from the middle of a season.
This team lost to Louisville, and Louisville's not a bad program,
But I mean this team has really improved, and that
speaks to the coaching staff. If you want to watch
some talent with efficiency, I think you're better off to
watch Oregon in Indiana. So I watching Miami's aggressiveness last night.
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They're like a fourteen year old after a big bag
of skittles. They're all over the place. But Chicato appreciate
the talent. I'm glad they won. College football is better
when Miami's great. I'll argue in about ten minutes about
the pass interference non call, which I thought was the
right call. College football is better. Talent absolutely wins in
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every level of football. But the Patriots rarely had the
most talented team. In fact, i'd argue the Randy Moss
teams with the most talented they didn't win super Bowls.
You know, Chiefs won when Tyreek Hill left the building,
won a couple of super Bowls. I don't know if
just talent alone wins. At Miami, the play calling drove
me nuts. They got too cute, They threw too much,
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the late hit, the drop passes, the drop picks. But
you know what, what they are is a symbol of
what ni al and transfer portal football is. We watch
them grow and mature. You're allowed to do that now
in college football. You don't have to be at your
best October eighth, and as the sports become a little
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bit college football, a little bit NFL. I love the
fact that Ole Miss and Miami we're just playing the
right team one, the better team one. And here's Mario
Christobal after.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It's a reflection of.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
How awesome this sport is.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
How teams have the opportunity to get better as year
goes on, how young players get to develop, Veteran players
have a chance to become leaders, and all of a
sudden you have a different dynamic in the middle of
the season and then down the stretch, and it carries
you into the playoffs. You can get hot at the
right time and things could be pretty interesting in a hurry.
So I mean, football's about settling it on the field right,
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and when the more we can give teams an opportunity
to do that, I think it makes.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The sport better for the record, that game does not
exist last night without the transfer portal, without the NIL,
without the college football Playoff, which a majority of fans
complained about. They want their old regional rivalries.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You can have a few of those. I want last night.
I want Miami being great. I want Michigan winning one year,
Ohio State the next year, and Miami, Oregon and Indiana
possibly winning the next year. Tonight's game could be potentially
even better. But this game doesn't happen without NIL and
the transfer portal, and without a playoff that now allows
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allows teams to stumble come on their nineteen twenty year
old kids. Even professional team stumble. The Rams go to Carolina.
Matt Stafford can't stop throwing the ball to the other team.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
He's a thirty seven year old.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Pro, So we think an October law should wreck it
for a nineteen twenty year old kid. Miami is a
symbol of what college football now is, and I want
to specifically, there.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Was a moment don't go to it yet.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There was a moment last night that really crystallized to
me the demise. And it's not arguable of the sec
there was a singular play middle of the game, run
play for Miami against SEC team, Old Miss. Watch the play.
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It is a run play and it would have gone
like for five or six yards. Watch the ACC team
push the SEC team back twelve yards.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
That didn't happen five years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Nobody pushed Georgia around LSU, around Bama around Bama just
got housed by Indiana that play. Miami is bigger than
the set team. They're stronger than the SEC team. They're
more physical than the SEC team. Well, it's old Miss.
Ole Miss this year is really good to the best
SEC team this year. They beat Georgia. Georgia couldn't stop them.
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Bama couldn't stop anybody. Ole Miss couldn't stop Miami last
night when it mattered. But that play symbolized it. You
can't have a car dealer and a whiskey distributor and
a personal injury attorney be your number one nil booster.
You need a car maker. You need a billionaire. That's
what the Notre Dames and the Michigans, the big endowments
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at some of these universities, Big City Miami, Like when
you watched how much time Carson Beck had or the
physical domination, I mean the running back for Miami is
bigger than the linebackers and defensive ends for ole Miss,
and that played to me. I mean, listen, the SEC
had five teams in the College Football Playoff. The only
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team that SEC teams that wasn't an SAC SEC team
was Too Lane. In fact, SEC team's first non conference
power opponents this playoff and this postseason.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Do you know what they are?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
One in eight minus sixty four point differential. I got
nothing against bourbon distributors, personal injury attorneys, and car dealers,
but if they're your number one nil moneybag guy, you're
not gonna beat Ohio State and going forward Michigan USC
is just right and checks left and right, Oregon right
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and checks Notre Dame right and checks. This is easy.
This has been the last three weeks. BAMA getting pushed
around by Indiana's offensive line. I mean, I'm watching that
game last night. I'm like, why is Miami throwing just
run the ball forty straight times? You used to not
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be able to run it twice in a row. There
were times the SEC would dominate a national championship game
against the Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The game was over the second series.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So not only are SEC teams getting posted, but like
National Letter of intentde this year. Forget the portal, the
National High School letter of Intent day USC Oregon Notre Dame.
Whoa what there was no Georgian there. So man, it's
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a new world of college football.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Jmac.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
People are freaking out about the hail Mary or the
pass interference. I'll get to that around the corner Bears Packers.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
By the way, this game would not have been close
if Miami didn't drop like five interceptions.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I mean, I've never seen anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well we were in Yeah, just listen. They're a flood
of raw talent, speed, athleticism. Their O line play is dominant,
and you know, teams become the personality of their coach. Right,
so Mario Christobal loves UFC, big guy, warrior offensive line guy.
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What's the strength of their team? Raw power offensive line?
Right when Chip Kelly was at Oregon, it was the
no huddle. Chip's kind of a creative, a clever guy,
like they literally got rid of huddles in college football.
You become in college football, your personality, your head coach.
That's what the team becomes. And Miami's going to be
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a bully. Miami's gonna get in your grill They're not
going to be artistic, they're not going to be pretty.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
They're always going to be efficient.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean, they dropped so many balls and so many picks,
so many penalties.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But man, that that that is they're back.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, well, let's reserve judgment until they play Indian.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Organ If you get to the Natty, your back.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But Indiana or Oregon I think both would be favored
against Miami.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Indiana would be Oregon.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Okay, Oregans like every other team not named Indiana. Oregon
makes mistakes too, not as many is Miami, but they
don't have Miami's talent. So everybody's arguing about it's gotta
be pass interference. I want to add some perspective to this.
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Speaker 1 (11:57):
Nobody wants to hear this about our justice system. But
sometimes a judge will make an arbitrary ruling.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
There's a very serious case.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
The person has done something very bad and yet comes
into the courtroom with an attitude and is snarky, and
the judge says, I don't like your attitude, Meaning judges
in our justice system can be arbitrary. When you get
in your car and drive on the freeway, it's called
a speed limit. I think you deserve a ticket. You
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went one mile per hour over the speed limit. The
truth is on LA freeways the four zero five, everybody's
going eight to twelve miles an hour faster than the limit.
You got to go about twenty five miles an hour
faster to stand out and get a ticket. Yet it's
called the speed limit. Folks, there is nuance in every
part of our lives, law, law enforcement, our judicial system,
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and it's the same with officiating. You're not calling pass
interference to end the game. You're not calling it. You
could call that play at the end of the game.
You could call pass interference on every Hail Mary in
the history of the NFL, every single one. It's jocking
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for position, and they almost never do yes. If there
was an egregious face mask or two to pull him down,
you'd call it.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
There wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You go to the last thirty seconds of the NBA Finals.
We don't want the game ending at the free throw line.
Michael Jordan to push off against Utah. That's a foul
in the second quarter. Absolutely a foul in the second quarter,
sending a message to mj don't do that. But on
the final possession, you're not calling that. You're not calling that.
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That's too iconic. It's history. Time and place matters for everything, marriage, speed, limits,
our justices, them, even officiating. The NFL change the catch
rule in a Super Bowl Philadelphia, New England. They change
the catch rule in the Super Bowl. The NFL often
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will do it in preseason and in September. There'll be
a point of emphasis in a rule change, and the
NFL will overcall get hyper aggressive, calling certain things to
emphasize to the players and coaches. We want this habit
to end. Listen, Miami at a fifteen place, seventy five
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yard drive to win. If All Miss makes one play
on that drive, they don't have to cross their fingers
and hope they get one call to save their butt
because they got outplayed.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
And out hit.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But there's nuance in everything everything, speed limits, law enforcement,
judges in courtrooms, you're not calling that. Whenever fans do this,
you want one call, but your team couldn't make one
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play on a fifteen play seventy five yard drive. Thank
god the adult. Pete Golding, the coach for Old Miss,
understands how the world works.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Those situations are tough to call them them in those situations.
But I mean, yeah, there was contact, but I mean
it happens a lot. You know, that's that's not why
we lost the game. But you know, we just had
a lot of opportunities late. But I mean, I think
it shows you the resiliency of the team, you know,
I mean, they didn't care was at eighteen fifteen. They're
going to go out there and give it all they
got and.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You know, looks like you ran out of time.
Speaker 10 (15:39):
But we didn't.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Execute well enough, didn't I'm prepare well enough and we
didn't coach good enough.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah. Fan is short for fanatic. He's absolutely right. I
going into this game, I don't know if you liked.
I liked Miami to win, but I kept saying, if
Ole Miss with Trinidad Chandler's came back and back door
to it, you wouldn't be shocked because they're all Miss
doesn't play normal football games. Every Old Miss game is crazy.
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Every game they play is crazy, and that's why they're
so endearing. And that's why I hope Trinidad Chambliss gets
another year. That's just fun to watch. Great heart, the
whole Kiffin thing. It's a fascinating story. But you know it,
and I know it. If you were if you were
an Old Miss fan and you had dominated Miami and
you had had a seventy play, five yard drive, fifteen plays,
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they couldn't make a single play, would you want the
past interference? Go? No, you just don't call that now
in that spot. It would have to be so overtly,
ridiculously egregious, and it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And the coach gets it. J Mack with the news, No, no,
turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This is the headline news, all right, call it NFL
Playoffs this weekend Monday Night. The Steelers and Texans are
an interesting matchup. Aaron Rodgers back in the playoffs and what.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Did you know it?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Colin yesterday while talking about Mike tom And he decided
to take a shot at his former team, my Jets.
Speaker 10 (17:04):
I think the way that he creates the culture and
allows guys to be themselves an important part of team
chemistry and a locker room being a healthy locker room.
One thing I really love, and it's kind of the
antithesis of where I was, is is not really any
leaks in the boat. Every year you have difficulties and adversity,
both on the field and off the field, and to
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go through a season like this and to be able
to focus on football and not have a lot of
other out there has been really nice.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
He's not wrong, Definitely, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah. I mean, listen, he got Green Bay. Sometimes Aaron
created the nonsense. I mean he knows it, everybody knows it.
But by and large, it's a great organization. And Pittsburgh,
for all their flaws, like Green Bay, it's about football
and the Jets are a circus.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Well, it's a.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Lot easier when you're winning, you know, you don't have
to worry about all these leaks and nonsense and bs
when you're losing. And Rogers was a big part of
that with the Jets. Yeah, stuff's going to start to
leak out because people are unhappy. I mean, he's definitely
not wrong. By the way, this line now down to
a flat three, no more three and a half.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I will tell you, I will tell you that was
I talked about this all week that I like the
Pittsburgh side, and the staff knows. At my blazing five,
this was my last one I pulled out. This was
my second favorite bet, three and a half. I thought
it was great, But numbers matter in betting. At three,
it's an average bet. Yeah, but at three and a half,
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you'd have to take Pittsburgh at home as a dog.
It just against the Houston team that struggles in the
red zone to put sevens on the board, not threes.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Yeah. Right, we'll talk more about this on Monday.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
All right, Let's go to the next story, and that's
John Horbaugh and his situation after getting fired.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
By the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
He apparently has been linked to the Dolphins a lot,
but according to the Athletic Miami is a serious threat.
And Harball is also very interested in the Giants.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Well, and they've been a big admirer obviously.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
John Mara, Okay, if you were the agent for John Harball,
you'd want to make sure the Miami Dolphins know, Hey,
you think you have me. I'm very interested in the Giants.
Telling you, Harbaugh's probably going to Miami, but the deal
is not done yet. They haven't agreed to terms, they
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haven't agreed to money yet.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So he's going to.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Play because the argument is, I could argue for some reasons,
Miami's a better job because you're going to.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Get control of the front office.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well wait a minute, they apparently are in the process
or just announced a GM hiring this morning. Meanwhile, Joe
Sheen is still in place, a guy that Harball's not
been connected to. I don't have his name off the
top of my head, but it's very interesting that they
would hire a GM knowing that Harball might want to
say something whacky's going on here, or Harbaugh's just wants
a bidding war.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
The minute John was let go, within the hour, Miami
called and said, do you have here's a list of
gms we've talked to which one do you feel most
comfortable with? And John Harbaugh said that one. This is
how the game works, and within forty eight hours they
hire the GM.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
John Harbaugh's most comfortable.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
With taking I don't want to bash to this is
I don't even know if he's a starter next year,
but taking a team with Tua in that contract versus
Jackson Dardan one year.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's a one year contract. You're at all You're done
with the two a thing.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Fat tyreek Hill, Constantine, Denver still paying for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
He's been out the door for years.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah, that dead cap, that was smart.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You can you can if you draft well and hit
on five picks. That doesn't I mean the Denver Broncos
hit on several picks. Suddenly the dead cap. I mean
Bo Nicks basically saved the dead cap.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Dolphins state. That's not great for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So h we got very we would have hardball. We'll
see what happens with the Bills and the Jets have
Aaron Glenn. Not good final story Colin Niners Eagles. That's
a big one and not great news for the Niners. Yesterday,
Ricky Piersall did not practice. The good news is Trent
Williams did return to practice in a limited fashion lines
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at five and a half, and we got some numbers
on the team with and without Trent Williams. Colin, it
is staggering how bad they are. Remember how Lane Johnson
when he misses for the Eagles, they're a different team.
Look at the numbers without Trent Williams if he's not
able to go four and thirteen, and the points per
game is down, the rushing yards way down.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You and I have talked about this. I don't think
we disagree.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Once you get the right coach, the most important player
is the quarterback. I've argued forever. Left tackle a second,
not edge rusher, wide receiver. Third is a great defensive
frontline player, either Crosby or Garret. On the edge. You
know Chris Jones and his prime Jalen Carter, Aaron Donald.
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But this this number left tackle says it all did.
This is what when you get one of these? I
always said the Keda Brady his career. Everybody says Belichick,
it's Dante Scarnecia. Brady never had a bad offensive line.
Aaron and Brett Fahr never had bad offensive lines. So
you take Trent Williams out. It's a different team, totally.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Different, and that pass rust that the Eagles have, it's
going to be hell for brock Perdy.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I'm I'm, I.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Mean, I think they if they could get an early
lead and Robert Slikin cook up some stuff, maybe there's
a chance here. But I'm with you, I think the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Inside blazing five top of thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So, Bears Packers is interesting. Chicago is a long time.
Chicago has not won a playoff game in fifteen years. Now,
you say to yourself, well, at least they're not the Jaguars.
In that fifteen year span, the Jaguars have won three
playoff games and been to an AFC Championship. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
That.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
In that fifteen year span, the Browns have won a
playoff game, The Arizona Cardinals have won a playoff game,
The Titans have won playoff games, the Bengals have been
to a Super Bowl. The Bears have not won a
playoff game. And it's not just that the Bears are good,
and they are good, they're number two seed. They want
eleven and six. They have a top three rushing offense.
They're a good team, very good team. It's just what
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Ben Johnson did in six months. I mean, this is
a team that last year lost a Hail Mary game
because their cornerback was on the field during the play,
jawing with fans in DC, they were the most sacked team.
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They were thirty first on third down. They found ways
to lose. Now they're arguably the best comeback fourth quarter
offense in the league. They don't turn the ball over
and they've surrendered the third fewest sacks. And the old
line is sensational now and I sometimes and this is
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why you cannot go cheap like the Bengals and the
Dallas Cowboys on coaches. Ben Johnson had to fix the quarterback,
he had to fix the old line, he had to
fix the culture. He had to fix three to four
different things. They were the most sacked team. Now they're
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one of the team sacked fewest. So when I watched
these coaching opportunities, when I watch all these coaching openings,
everybody's like, Oh, let's go get this coordinator.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Go find your Vabel, Go find your John Harball you're
Jim Harbaugh. You hire John Harball Giants Miami, or you
hire Kevin Stefanski, who won playoff games in Cleveland. Like
that's who you hire. Don't outthink the room. These owners
get so and the Bears owners can be a little cheap.
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The Bears owners are poorest or second porest in the league.
They have to spend some real money on Ben Johnson.
So you're what they've done to change the culture, the
O line, the quarterback. It is so dramatic to me.
And now they face their art Drival at home. I
just feel they've got momentum. I think they're roma Dunze's backed.
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I think they're healthy. Here's Ben Johnson on facing the
Packers again.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
I'm rooted a I've been saying it all week. I'm
rooted in the fundamentals, particularly on games like this. It's
about blocking, it's about tackling, it's about catching the ball,
it's about ball security. Things of that nature come come
out to the forefront, and so I'm more concerned with
playing sound football, making sure that we're putting our guys
in a good spot. I meant, we got a lot
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of talented players and you just want them to play fast,
play confident, and put them in a good good spot.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You know, watching that college game last night, Jay McK
and I are watching this and we both remarked how
bad the tackling was. So that's why I don't like
Denver and Seattle getting a week off. You don't do
a lot of tackling in that week off. When you
watch these college football games Indiana, you can see the
Indiana coaching. They tackle well. Bama didn't like the tackling
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last night was bad for both teams. And so you know,
that's my takeaway is in college, you know, you give
eighteen year olds and nineteen year olds ten days of
not practicing that they got a lot of things to do.
In the pros, time off usually doesn't affect tackling. And
the one thing Tom Brady came on this show yesterday
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and he said it, this week off of those teams
like Seattle and Denver, that's a week of prep, not
a week of rest. I think Chicago, because of their youth,
even though they're in a two game losing streak, I
think Chicago wants to play right now. I think they're
better as a two seed in Chicago than a one
seed I think Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson need reps,
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need that. This is an offense that plays with a lot.
You see it in games. The Bears can be awful
for half, great for a half. Say with Philadelphia, Philadelphia
can be awful for a half, great for a half.
Like Philadelphia gave guys off last week. They were banged out,
and they are older, like a Chicago team. To me,
it's better as a two seed than a one seed.
They're young, they're growing, they're developing. I think when you
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watch college football, the younger the team, the more time
they waste with extra time. The older the team uses
that extra time for By the way, what team tackled
well in college football with time off? Indiana? Look at
Indiana's roster. It's an older, more mature roster. They had
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twenty three, twenty four. So you watch those teams last night,
a lot of young players.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
The other question, so with the talent so spread out
now in college football, right, so it's not concentrated. Georgia
doesn't have like seven starting NFL players, so it's spread out,
And I just I wondered, like last night's game was fun,
but it didn't feel like a heavyweight championship.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Did it with a bunch of supersings.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
No, I think Miami against Indiana could feel that. Oh,
I think you'll have the most talented team and the
best coach team. That's not that Mario Christopaul isn't a
good coach. I mean, he obviously is, but his style
of coaching is raw and aggressive and punitive. Whereas I
look at Indiana, it's almost mathematics. It's efficients. They haven't
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had an errant snap all season, not one. They haven't
had a fumble at Indiana since the eighteenth play of
the season.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
They had the fewest draw passes.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So it's a real you judt opposed those two teams,
and I'm not in Indiana is going to blow out Oregon.
I think they'll beat them. Oregon is your typical, really
good college team. They make mistakes. Miami makes a ton
of mistakes. Indiana makes no mistakes. So you're going to
get a clash of styles potentially.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
By the way, now you said it right, So.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Ten days until the national Championship. They're stringing this out
too far. This is too much, too much time off.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Can we just do a week?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's like the Super Bowl. Sometimes you hate waiting two
weeks for it. Right, it's just ten more days before
the Natty.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
All I know is you and I sat there knocking
down diet cokes and watched a fantastic three four hours
of American sports.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Football is not bad, not a bad sort.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
That game does not exist without the transfer portal nil
college playoff that that oh, miss Miami.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Didn't we watch Notre Dame Penn State last year? That
was kind of a thriller too, right, I'm pretty sure
they were. They met in the semi final and Aller
had that brutal pick late.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
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Speaker 2 (30:03):
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Speaker 1 (30:13):
So of all the playoff games week this weekend, I
have a feeling, you know, if Trent Williams plays and
Ricky Pearsoll does, I think San Francisco Philly could be
really interesting because just all Eagle games are kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
They're really good at home in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
The Buffalo Bill's Jacksonville game is really, to me the
most consequential. There are fourteen teams in the playoffs, only
one team has one way to win and reach the
Super Bowl. The team is Buffalo, and the way is
Josh Allen puts on a cape and is Superman for
multiple weeks.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
San Francisco can be very reliant on Christian McCaffrey, but
Buffalo doesn't have Kyle Shanahan's schemes and play design to
elevate other players. This team not good on the perimeter,
can't stop the run. Don't trust them sometimes with special
teams most teams like justin. Herbert means a lot to
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the Chargers, but they have a great defense, an amazing
head coach, and a stupendous kicker CJ. Stroud. Jalen hurts Herbert.
Don't have to have their A game to win. C J.
Stroud's won three games this year twenty points re fewer anytime.
Josh Allen and the Bills offense has twenty points for
fewer all all of them they lost. So there's got
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one way, and that's why I don't like them.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
This team.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Also constantly I feel like Josh Allen is carrying units
that have let him down. Your wide receiver group can't
be this week. You know, the running game is really
basically Josh and one player, James Cook. There's not a
lot of depth there to me, so special teams I
don't always trust. I mean Josh Allen's. If you look
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at his twelve wins, he had one hundred lever one
hundred and eleven passer rating and his losses it was
eighty seven. He plays poorly, He's off his game. He
didn't have his fastball, he didn't spot the off speed stuff.
They lose and that's not the case with Herbert or c. J.
Stroud or Jalen Hurts, even brock Perty. So pro athletes
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want to be the man. They don't want to be
the only man. And Tom Brady talked about that, carrying
the load as the quarterback, knowing you are the way
in which your team can excel.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
I think it's very psychological, very emotional. When they've been
in these situations, they haven't played the type of winning
football needed in order for them to advance. Ken Buffalo
find it within themselves to play their best football in
the biggest moments and looks. Some weeks they've looked great.
The passing game looks great. Obviously, they're runners. One of
the top backs in the NFL. And the way Josh
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plays when he's playing and his rhythm, you know, he's
virtually impossible. MVP caliber season last year, and I thought
he played very well this season.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
So I want to go back to the Miami Hurricanes.
So I remember when I worked at the other place
and I had said, yeah, I know Tim Tebow's forty
eight and seven at Florida, but he's not an NFL
starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Colt McCoy forty five and eight at Texas.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You're not building a pro team around Tim Tebow or
Colt McCoy. Maybe they could be a backup, but don't
confuse really great college quarterback due to what's around him,
and really great college quarterback who is a great Sunday
quarterback too. Carson Beck's a great example. He is a
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classic great college quarterback. Good for him. He could win
his third Natty next Monday. But this team is great
because they dominate the line of scrimmage and have tons
of perimeter talent edge rushers. I mean, did you notice
how many times he threw behind the line of scrimmage
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just getting the ball to these supreme athletes. At Miami,
that's the game. At Georgia, it was a dominating defense,
suffocating pass rush and good run games and an occasional
really nice weapon.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
That is not a knock on him. It's different.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Fernando Mendoza leads the nation in yards per attempt per throw.
Carson Beck is twenty ninth. Yet Mendoza's got fewer picks.
So Indiana has less talent, and they ask him to
throw the ball down the field more, and yet he's
giving you an insane completion percentage and he's not throwing picks.
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That's a Sunday quarterback. That's a build around quarterback. Now,
Fernando Mendoza, you build a franchise around you. Draft players
that fit him. Carson Beck maybe backs up in the league.
Seems like a great kid, great story arms okay, athletic
ability is okay.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
He needs great playmakers.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
If you watch Miami's game plan, when you watch Indiana play,
they are going down field. They are throwing the ball
up the sideline, down the field, hard seam throws, hard
flag throws. That's how they win. They're telling you we
have this supreme Sunday quarterback. Who can make difficult throws
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not everybody can make. If you watch Miami play, they're
telling you, Yeah, Tony's unbelievable. Our speed is great. We
just got to get the ball quickly to those guys
and get it out of Carson Beck's hand. So the
game plans tell you where your quarterback's gonna play Saturdays
or Sundays. Miami's game plan tells you, you know, it's
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not that he can't make throws over the middle. They
wanted to get the ball out quickly to playmakers.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
How Indiana plays.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I mean, I was looking at this Fernando Mendoza at
Indiana and Col. Not exactly Juggernauts until this year. Sixty
nine percent completion percentage and first in yards per attempt.
That's crazy. To complete almost seventy percent of your throws
at Indiana and Col throwing the ball deep downfield often.
Carson Beck awesome college career. Could when his third Natty,
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he talks about Mario Crystal Ball and the program.
Speaker 9 (36:31):
I remember me and coach Chris Ball talking on the
phone for the first time. I was sending Jacksonville in
my house, in my room, and I just had a
big smile on my face, and he had a big
smile on his face, and he said, like he said,
let's get to work. And you know, I believed in
his vision. I believed in you know what he's been
able to build here and add on to the culture
of what Miami is and and I mean, what an
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unbelievable year. And it was never easy. You know, it
was never perfect. There's a lot of ups and downs.
There's a lot of adversity that not the I face
and individually, but that we faced as a team.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I mean, it's just a great story.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Did you notice he also said this, this is what
Vrabel did, This is what Jim Harbaugh did, this is
what Sean Payton. Did you hear what he said? What
a great culture Mario Christobal has built. That's what Barry
Alvarez that at Wisconsin. He took over Wisconsin and it
was like god, they were bad. And he went to
three Rose Bowls, one all of them. And Barry Alvarez said,
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why do we rebuild a stadium? Our stadium is great.
We're gonna add some paint here and there, but there's
got to be self belief. Barry Switzer is one of
the great college football coaches of all time. If you
know what Wisconsin was pre Barry Switzer, it was unwatchable,
it was bad, and it's not great now. They were
winning Rose Bowls when he was there, three different ones,
I believe. So it is about building the culture. Now
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you're seeing a lot of that right now at Indiana.
And by the way, Indiana was good last year they
got into the playoffs, and Indiana now is really good.
This is not a knock on Kurt Signetty, who's excellent,
or their players. They have like seven and eight NFL guys.
But I'm gonna still argue Fernando Mendoza is the difference here.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
If you put.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Fernando Mendoza on Miami and Carson Beck on Indiana, Miami
blows Indiana out. I think Fernando Mendoza is that unique.
His personality, his gratitude, his arm, his size. Not everybody
thinks that. A lot of people think he's a B prospect.
I think he's an A prospect here he is. I'm
getting ready for Oregon tonight.
Speaker 13 (38:35):
Actually a system that I follow that I go and
I really intricately do and make my system with my coach.
When I'm going to do that system, that means, Hey,
I've done everything possible to prepare for this game, and
so when I go step on that field, I am
confident as I know that my preparation is unmatched, and
I know that's the most that I could do possibly,
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and so when I go on the field, I'm confident
that my process take me here and that I can
compete at the highest level.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I mean, that's exactly what you there are one of
the things I like. And people think I get too
worked up over this. What you say at the podium matters.
Jalen Hurts is not the biggest arm great at the podium.
I mean, Dak Prescott is as good as anybody I've
ever seen in the podium. Than there are guys I
don't need to mention them that started fires at the podium.
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Fernando Mendoza is on the podium. NFL All Star Team.
He's not in the league yet. Brady never gonna get
get trouble at the podium. You don't want to start fires.
You want to put him out. If you have to
be a little cringey, a little cliche, I can live
with it. Try to be authentic, but I think this
is who the Fernando Mendoza is night. I don't think
this game will be as good as last night's game
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because I think there is a gap between Indiana and Oregon.
I think what last night provided Miami was the physical,
raw talent squad. Ole Miss was the underdog with a
ton of offensive firepower.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
So it just you knew in that game.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You're what I mean, even in the first half, you
and I are like, this should be thirty to three,
and You're like, all Miss is just this wild come
from behind, What a wonderful story.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Trinidad Chambliss is well.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Miami also self inflicted wounds with the penalty. He has
some dumb penalties too, undisciplined stuff from college kids to
pick near the red zone from beck on the tip,
Like you said, they should have just been running the football.
They're gonna run for two fifty last night easily.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I don't like to criticize play calling usually and the
offensive coordinator. One of the reasons Mario Cristobal like him.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Likes him.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
He's considered kind of conservative. He's kind of a run guy,
uh Dawson kind of it. He likes to run. Last night,
I thought he got way too cute. They were trying
to flee flicker. It's like, bro, this is not the
time for a flea flicker. This is the last time.
Let all miss try to pull bows off.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Now they get to play in basically a whole game
in the National champions If that's kind of cool, Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
That actually helps Miami. I think Miami needs every little
edge to potentially beat Oregon or Indiana and that that
that's for college kids home fields, a touchdown. I think
for college kids it's a big deal and NFL it
doesn't mean much. All Right, blazing five. What a regular season?
We had sixty percent. We begin our postseason blazing five.
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Neck