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Here we go. It is a what is it a Wednesday?
A Thursday? I forget what day? It is? Midweek Wednesday.
It's great, it's The Herd. We're live. We're in Chicago.
I gotta tell you we have a show today. Well,
I got so many things to talk about and a
story is developing and I do not get the story.
(00:46):
Good to see you warming up in Chicago. I almost
wore cargo pants to work today. So Clint Koobiac is
the new coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. I like
to hire. He was quoted yesterday saying, Hey, I got
to watch a lot of tape to determine who's going
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to be the number one pick. Clint, I've seen the
tape draft Fernando Mendoza. What is happening over the last
forty eight hours on People? I am talking to in
the NFL is crazy. I'm getting real pushback on Fernando
Mendoza as an a quarterback prospect. The last time I
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got this much pushback on a quarterback I loved, and
a lot of people in the league were a little
cool on him. Maybe you've heard of him, Sam Darnold.
Usually I agree with people. I always call on people.
But the majority opinion I am hearing in the league
is he is a good prospect. But Indiana football is
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about Kurt Signetti. What a crock that is. And I
like Kurt Signetti. Indiana loses three games this year minimum
without Fernando Mendoza. Miami, Ohio State, and Penn State not
win in those games, and I would argue maybe five losses.
They trailed Iowa in the fourth and were tied with
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Oregon at ousin in the fourth. Maybe they win those,
maybe they don't, but you could have had five losses
without Mendoza and a lot of Indiana fans and by
the way, Indiana football fan, you've mattered for twenty minutes.
Lose the arrogance. You're not Oklahoma, you're not Ohio State,
you're not Notre Dame. You're Indiana. You're a basketball school
with a couple rich boosters. I didn't buy you last year.
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I called you fraud because you were because you had
the number two scoring offense in the country, and you
built it up against a bunch of you know, Panera
breads in the out of conference. Last year they hung.
This is pre Mendoza. Indiana hung seventy seven on Western Illinois,
fifty two on something called Charlotte, and sixty six on
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per Don't you averaged fifty three and a half points
and you're out of conference games, so you thought that
was a real flex. And then you played Ohio State
and at one hundred and fifty yards offense, and you
played Notre Dame and you trailed twenty to three in
the fourth before some garbage stats, and you played a
bad Michigan team and you had forty yards rushing. Don't
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you don't matter. You had a great season and a
great team the year before. I stand by everything I said.
If fools gold you played a bad Michigan team, they
pushed you around, you couldn't move, you couldn't run the ball.
And then Fernando Mendoza arrives and you dropped, you know,
thirty eight on Bama and sixty six on a very
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very good Illinois team, and fifty plus on Oregon in
the in the playoff or whatever it was. That's a
legitimate team. Sixteen and oh was a legitimate team. So
I don't want to hear about all the whiny Indiana
football fans. And we got a lot of them in
the Fox building. I had ah whiner. Oh a year ago,
you said, I said the truth, you crushed Western Illinois.
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I don't even I mean, I live in Illinois. I
thought Western Illinois was Indiana. Is it a school that's
on an island in the in the in the lake Michigan. Well,
what is Western Illinois? Charlotte? Well, what is that? This year?
You go to Penn State, you go to Oson. You're
crushing Alabama, You're rolling people, you're beating Ohio State. You
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were totally legitimate. That's not Signetti alone. If quarterback doesn't matter,
and it's all about Signetti, then Kurte Signetti is the
only coach in the history of football AFL, NFL College
Football Division one through Division thirteen where quarterback really doesn't
have that much of an impact. Yeah, I'm gonna say
it does. And I thought last year. A lot of
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that stuff last year with Indiana was cotton candy scheduling.
When they faced the big boys, it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that Notre Dame game. They're punting in their own territory.
They're punting it like the what are they putting it?
Like the Notre Dame forty f something. You're like, yeah,
give me a break, I mean, give me you guys
have I mean, everybody's got amnesia. This year's Indiana, yikes.
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And they were legit, but like any team, they were
very reliant on a great quarterback. And I am getting
so much pushback on Fernando Mendoza, and I don't get it. Big,
accurate moves, humble gratitude, I don't get it. I watched
them at Penn State, I watched them against Ohio State,
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I watched them against Miami's defense. He's unbelievable and nobody
loves him. Everybody likes him. My guy, Todd McShay said
this yesterday on the show. Talent is talent, right, And.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I really like Fernando Mendoza. He's tall, six' five two,
Twenty he's got mobility for his, Size he's got a
lot of, energy on the, ball and he's, smart but
he's not if we're talking, physically he's not some of
the guys we've seen in the last Few he's Not,
caleb he's Not, jayden he's Not, drake he's not even Cam.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Ward so there's that to. UNPACK i like Cam. Ward
Fernando mendoza is not a better prospect than Cam. Ward
i'm telling, you what's The Will ferrell. Line you people
are taking crazy. Pills i'm not saying He's Andrew. Locke
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i'm not saying He's John. Elway i'm Not i'm not
saying he has the horsepower Of. Caleb i'm not saying
as a prospect He's Josh, allen who Mel kiper called
a top ten. Prospect, There i'm not saying. That But
Kurt signette's. Great Kurt signetti had a bb gun offense
the year Before mendoza. Arrived it was a water. PISTOL
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i mean they were they were, dominating you, know directional.
Schools this. Year they were Kicking. Alabama's but, okay, yeah
THE nio got them a few more good, players no.
Question a couple edge. Rushers one was hurt, though got.
Hurt BUT i it's, folks every go look At belichick Without.
(07:12):
Brady every coach in the history of up go look
At Bruce arians when he Had, brady and when he
Had Carson, palmer and then look At Bruce arians when he.
Didn't And Bruce arians a great. Coach every coach is
driven by their quarterback, player and he reads. Unbelievable he's
way better With. Mahomes, Okay so that just throws.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Me for a.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
LOOP i get off the phone the last two days
And i'm, like, MAN i like this guy way more
than everybody. Else there's so MUCH i like about. It,
okay you get me worked up on this. Stuff the
draft doesn't even Until, april And i'm having you, Know
i'm going nuts over. Here maybe it's the. Coffee. Okay
(07:53):
so last Night spurs play The. Lakers two nights, ago
it was, okay See. Lakers two truths were on. Display
number one IS nba fix your. Product Luca lebron And
Austin reeves were not. Available what a crappy. Product you're a,
kid you go to a, game you live In, palmdale
you go to one one game a, year and you
(08:14):
don't Get, Lebron luca and by the way The warriors play.
Tonight No, steph No Jimmy, Butler butler's, injured but give
me a, break bad. Product here's everything in THE nba
is a, yeah but, oh we gotta go watch the team. Tonight,
yeah but so and so's not. PLAYING i, mean in THE,
nfl you always get the, stars, right and that sport
they tackle each. Other here's the other, truth those new
(08:37):
Wealthy laker. Owners that's gonna hurt for J. Mack they
have watched the last two NIGHTS okc come into town
and The spurs come into, town and those two rosters
compare to The lakers, depth, length, defenders multiple, scores guys
that aren't old and sleepy and can't play back to.
(08:58):
Backs those rosters are the best two rosters in THE.
Nba and those New laker owners are watching those two
teams waltz in The Crypto arena and The lakers look
a mile, away a mile, away and you could, say,
well The lakers got. Injuries the New laker owners own The.
(09:18):
Dodgers the last two, years the twenty twenty Five dodgers
topped the record set by the twenty twenty Four dodgers
in pitchers used for A World series winning. Team The
dodgers have been beat up for two. Years they're not
interested in the. Excuses luca's twenty seven is supposed to
be in his. Prime why has his game gotten more
(09:39):
cerebral than? Athletic why has he hurt so? Much Because
wimby's not in his, prime five years, younger and he
is a mile better Than luca right now because he
actually plays, defense rim, protector runs the, floor does everything.
Well so those New laker owners walked into this, organization
and the last two nights they have seen the league's.
(10:02):
Truth the Gat wemby had thirty seven at, Half he
could have scored. Seventy he could have done. WHATEVER i
mean they. Scored what do they? Score how many points
they have at? Halftime seventy four points at halftime or
something like. THAT i, Mean spurs were just doing whatever
they wanted. To and everybody tells me About, luca AND
i Like, luca but he's twenty. Seven the game's not as.
(10:24):
Vertical i'm. Sorry he doesn't once again look to be
in the best. Shape so people, say, well The lakers
have cap. Space it is not a transactional league like that.
Anymore it's a draft and developed. League look at The,
pistons look at The, spurs look AT. Okc three best
teams in the. League it is a draft and develop.
League the sharp young gms are. Crushing SO i gotta
(10:47):
tell you the last two, nights And crypto is a
perfect sponsor for The. Lakers, facility bloated valuation, rules gold
buying into gold and. Purple you know In crypto they
called a rug. Pull they called a rug pull when
(11:10):
the price. Craters lakers need a rug. Pull THEIR gm Rug,
polinka he may need to get. Pulled lakers against winning.
Teams eleven and thirteen against winning, teams they're not. Good,
oh they're unbelievable against The. Wizards SO i said it.
(11:31):
YESTERDAY Jj, reddick love, Him luca like him a. Lot everybody.
Else wrecking. Ball those New laker, owners those, cats they're moving.
Off Cody, Bellinger Manny, Machado Scott, Seeger Trade, turner those
are great. Players that was Like hall Of. FAME i
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mean many Of machado's gonna beat The hall Of. Fame
they're moving off those. GUYS i, mean you watch The
spurs and THE. Okc they both have more draft, capital
they have more good, players great, benches, unbelievable twitchy defenders and,
length and they have like each five or six ascending.
Players who's ascending on The, lakers it's Not. Luca all
(12:15):
are you all day? Long it's Not. Luca luca's, Great
he's not. Ascending his game has gotten more a little
bit more, cerebral which is, great but it's not quite
as athletic as three years, ago which would worry me
because he's twenty. Seven, yeah my bads first had eighty
four points at a. HALFTIME i, mean, Well, colin this
(12:36):
guy didn't, play and this guy didn't, play and this
guy didn't. Play Those dodgers, OWNERS i, mean those guys
have been Winning World series titles using forty. PITCHERS i
mean they're just basically trying to figure out who's available
for the eighth. Inning you, know in your divisional round playoff,
series they're running out of. Guys Here's wemby on his
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performance last.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Night you got to have no degree and every game
you have to have this, agreed you know, two well
the more every time because you, know at all times
it doesn't matter who's in the court as somebody who's
gonna want to tuck you from. There what you do o,
There so you got a, Degree.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Greg cosel in forty five. Minutes J, mac there's no
reason to go into play by play ON okc In San.
Antonio but when you look at those two, rosters you
look at THE i, mean The spurs just come in
And castle got hurt on top of the second. Quarter
but when you look at those, rosters you're just, like,
(13:38):
wow young and those teams have draft capital.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Galore.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Yeah SO i was at the game last night and you,
know we walk in un of the, areno we know
who's out for The, lakers and we look at the
first half line and it was Only spurs minus seven
and a. Half, now that was WHAT i had loaded up.
On it was like they were up thirty at. Halftime
it was a. Bloodbath The lakers not. Competitive the guy
who's probably a little nervous right, Now, colin we talked
(14:04):
about this. Yesterday it's Probably Rob. POLINKA i, mean, LISTEN
i like The. LAKERS i think they're gonna be fine
this season and do well in the. Postseason But, rob
that roster looked really exposed last night compared to The,
spurs who's bench players were miles. BETTER i, Mean Carter,
bryant the rookie From. Arizona, oh yun.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Kid he was.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
AWESOME i mean you should have seen him in the
dunk line before the. GAME i was, Like, wow who's this.
Guy spurs are. Loaded they're gonna be my. Pick they're
officially my pick to win THE nba.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
TIME i think so.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
TOO i, mean they just you, know THESE nba, champs
they have their starting, five they have their three to
four man. Rotation The spurs walk into town and If wemby's,
playing it's the same starting. Five it's the same four
guys in the. Rotation they're well been well run. Forever
but when you Watch wemby's upside and, again you can, say,
well The lakers are missing bang Bang. Bank, well that's
(14:53):
Because lebron can't play back to. Back that's Because luke
over the last three years is always dinged. Up austin
reeves not one hundred, percent and so it's, like you,
know it's. Funny The spurs are. Healthy, Okay siso was.
Healthy if it wasn't for flu the last two, nights
you'd have had everybody. Else when you have young players
in their prime who were in great shape all the,
time they don't get hurt as. Much It's Anthony davis
(15:16):
can't stay? Healthy why would that be in his entire?
Career AND i Love Anthony. Davis one of the best
defensive players of my life though ads and in his
prime is one of the great defensive Players i've ever.
SEEN i said it two years ago or last. Year
should have Been Defensive player of the. Year unbelievable, talent never?
Healthy what was a knock on? Him not in great?
SHAPE i, MEAN i you know, Now i'm not saying
(15:38):
you have to be in D wade And lebron's, shape
but the guys that get dinged up a, lot it's
not just. COINCIDENCE i don't buy, that all, right you
get me worked up on this. Stuff j, MACWAN i love.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
How fire up you. Are That lakers rerant was. EPIC i,
mean they, listen they're gonna be. Fine but your rent
was a. Plus good. Stuff, OH i really appreciate. That
was it a neurogum kind of? Morning are you back
on that?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Stuff you?
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KNOW i flew country last. Night, Yes i'm, aware and
the strangest thing. Happened So i'm on the flight next
to a guy is a big, guy you, KNOW i
don't talk much on. FLIGHTS i get, IN i sit,
DOWN i put in the, PODS i stream whatever you,
know it's go On starlink or Whatever United. AIRLINES i
don't talk a. Lot and all of a, sudden about
(16:19):
an hour into the, flight the guy gets. Up i'm
thinking going to the. Bathroom he. Disappears it's a full.
Flight i'm, like where'd he? Go and SO i kept
looking for ten minutes the bathroom AND i got up to,
stretch BUT i looked in the. Back i'm, like not
on the, plane And i'm, like we got A dB
cooper situation. Here somebody jumped out the back of the.
Plane and then about five minutes before we, land he
(16:41):
walks up and SIT's next to, me AND i, said,
UH i was look. Concerned where'd you? Go this? GUY
i had a. BUDDY i was a text at at
the back of the, plane And i'm, Like i'm telling
you right, now it was like who had a? Parachute?
WHO i tried to identify everybody in first. CLASS i
we got A dB cooper thing And i'm looking around.
IT i want TO i d people to make sure
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wild night flying. HOME i didn't even you, KNOW i
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Podcasts all, right welcome. BACK i saw this story this,
morning and this got me worked up. TOO i want
to Defend caleb William bears quarterback BECAUSE i saw the
Story bears Quarterback caleb William Caleb williams is the betting
favorite to WIN mvp next, year AND i can hear
(19:49):
everybody already, SAYING i, mean give me a, break you media.
People first of, all he's got two big. Advantages he's
got a great offensive, coach and his game is. Fun
Matt stafford WON. Mvp you think Of, stafford you're like
big time arm no look, Passes mahomes WINS, mvp, right
what left handed? Passes this is not voted on by an.
(20:12):
Algorithm people vote ON mvp And Caleb, williams even when
you compare him to like really Talented Sam, Donald caleb's just.
Different caleb does stuff nobody else does Except Josh allen
so and the difference IS i Think Caleb, williams in my,
opinion has a better coach Than Josh allen. Did AND
i Think sean McDermott is very very. GOOD i Think
(20:35):
Ben johnson we may have a great one, here we
may have another. McVeigh so The bears went from thirty
second offense total offense to. Sixth you know what that
feels like to, Me very much Like mike McDonald In
seattle who took over For Pete. Carroll they went like
thirtieth to eleventh, two number one in The Super. Bowl
SO i Think Ben johnson In chicago And mike McDonald In,
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seattle we could be. Looking AND i believe this to be.
True we got a couple more, mcvays guys that are just.
Different they're just better than everybody. Else so and there
are and here's my thing About Caleb, williams there are
these players IN nfl. History Lawrence taylor is. ONE i,
mean there's so many funny things on the internet TikTok
(21:18):
About Bill parcells talking About Lawrence, taylor where like he
just would do his own. Thing he freelanced his way
to being the best pass rusher in league. HISTORY i,
mean Even Bill parcells at some points, like, yeah, whatever
do your, Thing Bill. Parcells So Deon sanders didn't like
the tackler defend the. Run he was so good at
guarding everybody in the, league including Mostly Jerry, rice he
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just kind of let him do his own. Thing, SO
i mean when people get worked up on the completion
percentage For Kayleb, williams my take is. Okay here are
people that also struggled in year two of their completion.
Percentage Matt, Stafford Jared, Goff Peyton, manning And Josh. Allen
you know when you're really REALLY i, Mean Peyton manning
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was so good. Upstairs Josh allen has so much, Power
stafford had such a good. ARM i don't get too
caught up on completion. PERCENTAGE i think it needs to
get a little, better a little. Better but if he
gets the sixty one and a half or sixty two
and a, Half i'm kind of okay with. IT i,
Mean Lawrence, taylor kind Of Deon sanders kind of freelanced
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their way a. Lot If caleb freelances six times a,
Game i'm comfortable with. IT i, mean if you told
me who should win THE mvp next, year WHO i
would put my crypto, On i'd Go caleb one And
Josh allen two BECAUSE i Think caleb has the better. Head.
Coach Brian, urlacker the very popular Former Great Chicago, bear
(22:47):
was talking About caleb last week TO Usa, Today.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Caleb was really good last year as a. Rookie he
didn't turn the football, over which is a big deal
OF i did not see him making the jump he
made this. Year their whole, team for that, matter. OFFENSIVELY
i just think the belief that had it that they
were going to win every game starts with. Him it's.
Crazy the clutch, throws he makes canon arm and when
things break, down that's when he's really. GOOD i feel, like,
(23:12):
yeah he gets that his.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Best. Yeah SO i to, Me Caleb williams number one PRESEASON,
Mvp Josh allen, two and a lot of it is
because nothing Against Joe, brady but he's Not Ben. Johnson
he may, succeed he's Not Ben. Johnson he's Not Ben.
Johnson for two, years maybe, three before we got the
(23:34):
job In, chicago you AND i were. Spending you'd go
out and talk to fans and it's, like, man who's that?
Guy In? DETROIT i, mean The lions were like creative
and clever and progressive and smart and. Fun And Joe
brady may. WORK i have my, doubts Not Ben. Johnson
(23:55):
SO i Think caleb should be the. Favorite he just
some guys are more fun to watch and easier to vote.
For jmack with the.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
News, no, no, no turn on the.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
News this is The herdline.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
News all, right let's Revisit Super bowl Sixty. Collins fun
little nugget here From mike, McDonald The seahawks. Coach so
we went on The Jimmy Kimmels show this, week AND
i had not heard this. Anywhere he, said in the,
stadium it was Overwhelmingly seahawks.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Fans, yeah take a. Listen it was.
Speaker 11 (24:28):
INCREDIBLE i, mean it's must have been seventy five twenty.
Five it felt, like you, know if you're like when
you come play on a road, game it's hard to
do like a verbal cadence for the quarterback to snap
the ball because he can't hear, Right so you have
to have some sort of like silent you, know we
call it silent.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Cadence where you lift the leg or.
Speaker 11 (24:44):
Whatever but their offense is on silent cadence the whole,
game which gives us.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
An advantage on.
Speaker 11 (24:48):
Defense our offense was able to use a verbal cadence
Where sam could you, know give all the commands to the.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Center so it was like playing a home, game you, Know,
JMACK i was sitting with two, people Joh ryan, producers
watching the, game and we were talking about it right
before the. Game we're, like this is kind of a
home game For, seattle not just because of the, crowd
because they've played in that stadium multiple, times and the
lighting and the angles for a late, afternoon you, know
(25:14):
it was a late afternoon on The West. Coast it
did feel like watching that game Is i've Seen seattle play,
Here i've Seen donald play. Here i've seen The seahawks
the last couple of years. McDonald it felt like and
then you started they panned the crowd and you're, like,
oh this is like one of Those bowl games in
The south where it's like seventy, percent like you, know
it's like sixty five Percent georgia fans and then thirty
(25:35):
five percent you, know whoever the other team is Fans
oregon or. Whatever SO i thought that. PLAYED i Thought
seattle looked much more, comfortable and they were better and
they had a better game plan and a better. Quarterback
BUT i did think it was an Advantage seahawks.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Events, obviously six, sacs three. Turnovers they were. Nasty let's
go to the second, story and that's The Clint kubiak presser,
YESTERDAY i know you were fired up about his comments
About Fernando, mendoza the number one.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Pick, however, however he.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Was also asked About Max, crosby the defensive end who made.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Waves last week with some.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Comments here's What kubiak said about the future Of crosby In.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
VEGAS i love.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Talking ball with, him and you, know look forward to
continuing those. Conversations he was he was the first one in.
Here is more than working, out SO i fired me.
Up we want him to be a part of our
of our success going. Forward you, know there's no doubt about.
That and you know he's he's one of the best
players in THE. Nfl so it's that's a no. Brainer
to get to work With max and to see him
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continue to have success with this.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Organization i'd be.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
BIG i don't.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
KNOW i know you're plugged in With. Crosby he's your.
Guy he don't like me.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well shots at people.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Indiscriminately AND i didn't think he was a top five
defensive end in the.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
League, SORRY i, mean he's really really.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Real, scarrett he's probably number. Two he's, very very. Good
i'm not running to go that. Far but more, importantly
he's the only guy The raiders have look at these
sac numbers since twenty, nineteen it's Basically Max crosby and
random guys who don't do much or aren't sticking Around Long.
Colin they Need crosby. Badly, listen they got some draft.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Capital part of me Wants Max crosby to play In Super.
Bowl So i've come to the conclusion that If max gets,
TRADED i think it's really, cool especially if he went
to LIKE i, mean just to put him. On you,
Know buffalo for, instance could use a consistent edge. RUSHER
i would love to See Max crosby In. Buffalo it's
nothing against The, raiders BUT i do WHEN i have
SOMEBODY i, like Like Sam, DARNOLD i LIKE i Wanted
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sam to Have kevin. O'Connell i Wanted sam to go To.
SEATTLE i Want sam To. Florid Max crosby is one
of my, Guys SO i think if he stays in
The raiders and they pay, Him i'm happy because he's
going to get more money. Soon but my other take
is if he goes to somebody like let's Say jacksonville
or With Liam cohen and that team that's like a
player away or he goes To. Buffalo i'm also happy for.
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Him I'm. Buffalo you don't have a single pro bowler on.
Defense how can you make your corners and your safety's?
Better a great pass? Rush you got to give.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Up a lot to get him, Though.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Huh you got to give up a lot to get
him To? Buffalo, Okay Josh, allen four more years. PRIME
i don't need first round. Picks you've got it your left,
tackle you're running. Back you need an edge. RUSHER i.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Get what's the? Timeline we were talking about this during
the prep this. Morning luca's twenty. Seven you Think lucas
got six more years of. Prime his game is already
less athletic today than it was four years. Ago, Okay, so,
like What's luca's window to? Me luca's window is the
next four. Years Rob, Polenka Nick Right knight talked about this.
Yesterday you got to speed it up here Because luca
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is aging. Faster carmelo aged very. Fast didn't Eat why
he wasn't In lebron's? Shape how do they come out
at the same time And lebron's still playing in mellow a?
Broadcast because so to, Me Josh, allen the way he
runs around and gets, popped you probably have four years
OF aaa plus and then Like Big benn Or, cam
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big guys who you, know run, around get. Hit it,
starts you can. See so to, me your window In
buffalo is.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Today, Now i'm, SORRY i can't rock you just sort
of like you don't need first round. Picks we just
Saw seattle draft m And worry and he's a huge
factor in the.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
League a better second round. Pick you need your, Picks.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Colin you know Those rams have had one first round
pick in nine. Years second best franchise in the. League
the only team that can move the ball on The
seahawks is the team that's had one first round pick
in nine. YEARS i, mean if you draft, well, second, third,
fourth fifth round and you have a team friendly quarterback,
deal you can be an Excellent.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Claws the team friendly quarterback screws it. Up BUT i,
HONESTLY i don't know That i'm trading For. Crosby If
i'm If buffalo you're gonna cost you two.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Ones let me ask.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
This, guy what are you gonna get in the first?
Round how did? That Keyon coleman thing work has been?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Wow that was a very poor.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Job, remember you're giving up two first round picks In,
buffalo their bottom of the first. Round what are you
getting the best corner At? Georgia let me The.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Eagles eagles sure.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Did draft some really good players and the first shift
on a late first round pick a. Receiver if you
recall out OF, tcu those late the best GM's in the.
League jason Light uh In, tampa GREAT. Gm he Took
Kyle Trask. Florida that is an impossible place to. Draft
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Even Seattle's John. Snyder now he's drafted to get the
bottom of the First, dude those are second round players
by the twentieth.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Pick that's a hard place FOR. Gm what's your guests On?
Crosby is he playing for The raiders next season or?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Traded ALL i, know If I'm, BUFFALO i give up
two first in a heartbeat to get him because the
one thing they need are explosive defensive. Players, now if
you want to move up and Get baine or like
out Of, miami The hurricane, kid or if you want
to move, up you could do, it but you're going
to have to give up A maybe you don't give
up to, first maybe you give up a second and a.
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Third that's not a bad move By. Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Listen rams Found Jared verse late first round and he's
crushing it, already an elite player at his. Position game Changer,
LIKE i don't, know, MAN i think you're. Who that's
a good topic for the, offseason. Though would you give
up two first round picks For Max?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Crosby what depends on the downside is you're Paying Josh
allen so. Much for, Instance i'll give you a team
that should look At Max, crosby The Chicago bears quarterbacks
on a rookie. Deal, yes that may give you another,
Team New England patriots quarterbacks on a rookie. Deal both those,
Teams chicago's got a decent, defense they do not have
a consistent. EDGE i would have no Problem Ryan pole's
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given up first to Get Max. Crosby what is the
window to win A Super bowl With Caleb. Williams, now
you could say it's ten, years but we just watched
The Super bowl with two team friendly quarterback. Deals by the,
way if Bow nix is, healthy he's probably in The Super.
Bowl he is a team friendly. Deal my final, Story
crosby is works if you've got an inexpensive quarterback That
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ADEN i can Ride Jayden daniels In, Washington Drake, May
Sam darnold or Not Sam, Donald Caleb Williams. Bone, well
they they don't need more pass rushers In. Denver.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Yeah final story is to THE.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Nba Jalen brunson went off last night forty, piece but
The knicks lost to The Oh boy fourteen Win. Pacers
pacers are not a great team this. Year obviously a
lot of. Injuries they trade For zubots he ain't playing,
now The knicks did not have ogn andob one of
their best, defenders and look at. That The pacers drop
one hundred and thirty seven. Points, colin you remember the
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Immortal Phil, jackson great, coach had a bunch Of phil.
Jacksonisms he had a forty twenty. Theory it states that
if a team suffers twenty law before they win, forty
they went in the. Championship this loss last night was
The knicks. Twentieth not great, news and especially when you
look at the other contenders who apply to forty Twenty Detroit, PISTONS, Okc,
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Thunder San Antonio, spurs those are clearly the three best,
teams AND i think The knicks would be in probably
the next.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
TIER i agree.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Totally but they're in The east, though you know.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
That.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah by the, Way Ken coleman was a second round.
Pick my bet wasn't the, First Oh? Buffalo, yeah, Yeah,
NO i think The knicks If halliburton was healthy And
Jason tatum was, HEALTHY i don't think The knicks are
a title team or even a finals. TEAM i Still
i'm going to Take detroit over the NEXT i think it's.
Close but BUT i that's. So Phil jackson's theory was
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if you lose twenty before you win, forty you're not
a title. Team.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Yeah so The celtics are at thirty four and nineteen
they technically could pull it, off and The rockets are
thirty three and, nineteen so they're right. There rockets have
been leaking oil for a little while now the Injuries
dean Vleet adam's catching. Up but, Man i'm not selling
My knick. Stock if, Anything i'm gonna add to. It.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
COLIN i still think they're the cream of the crop
in The. East all, right.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
What's your favorite, team by the, way in The east
as a Kid.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Nix, yeah AND i know The pistons smashed from recently
by forty distance are motivated after The knicks beat them last?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Year, okay they.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Are you just wait till the series comes if The
knicks are healthy nix and.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Six all, Right, WELL i love your. Optimism it's almost.
Childlike it's a very youthful. Enthusiasm well, said appreciate. That
it's like it's like the kind of enthusiasm you had
when you had dual. Earrings you just were very. Optimistic
you woke up and every day was your. Oyster.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
YES J mack with the, News well that's the, news
and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
News.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
YEAH i Think Bears patriots one and, two go Get Max.
Crosby there's nobody in the first round for the next two,
years maybe next three that's going to be as good
As Max. Crosby there's not a guy in this draft
outside Of Fernando, mendoza potentially because he's taken seventy snaps a,
game especially if The raiders are, Trailing he's thrown a
lot that that's. Influence but none of these other picks
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are going to have the immediate impact Of Max. Crosby Fernando.
Mendoza next, year we got a bunch of quarterbacks that.
Could but if you take Out Fernando, mendoza what player
in this draft for the first two years is going
to Post Max crosby Numbers bagel. Zero now that doesn't
mean that guy isn't, inexpensive it doesn't become. Great But
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Max crosby is a you're talking about one of the
TOP i, MEAN i love when they mic players and
you and they keep the they keep the you, KNOW nfl,
films they watch him for the entire. Game, dude he
is one of those guys that does not take plays.
Off he is just he. IS i mean, again he's
a twelve year old on a two bags of. Skittles
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he never. Stops it's like relentless. Energy that is hard
to play at that. Level and remember The. Raiders just
think how Good Max crosby would be if his team was.
Good but he's facing teams in the fourth quarter that
are running the ball because they lead The raiders by two.
Touchdowns can you imagine if he played On chicago and
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you lead late Or New england and you lead late
and the other team has to pass And Max crosby
can pin his ears. Back So Max crosby usually eight
minutes to. Go his team. Trails they're trying to kill the.
Clock NOW i get fifteen late game snacks with snaps
With Max crosby pinning his ears back because The patriots
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The bears lead by eight or. TEN i mean to,
ME i don't care about the number that GUY i
want on my. TEAM i, mean between My Max crosby
take and My Fernando mendoza, take the fact That i'm
not GETTING gm offers is, surprising it's. DISCOURAGING i, mean
today's show alone should qualify me for.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
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Speaker 1 (37:14):
Fox so The athletic they do a good job at.
This they do a lot of surveys and. Polls they
pulled NINE nfl coaches and executives on the best coaching
hires in this. Cycle so there were nine first place
votes best coaching in this cycle best coaching. Hires so
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let's go look at the. Results John Harbaud Giants that
was my, take is the Best hire got six of
the nine first place, Votes Kevin stefanski got to, Vote Jesse,
minter AND i Guess Joe brady got a. Vote, okay
there you. Go but what's interesting if you add up
all the, Votes Joe brady was only the eighth best
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hire of. Ten that is way down that, list people Like, Harboss,
Defansky Jesse, Minner mike, McCarthy Jeff, Hafley Clint, Kobiak Robert,
SALA i, mean, nobody no votes For Todd, Mounkin so
way to, Go. Cleveland but the ONE i look at
Is Joe. Brady Joe brady is way down that. List
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so think about what's happening In. Buffalo they're already banging
on the fans are already banging on the fans in
the media are banging On brandon being THE gm because
of the drafting. Record so they've lost a lot of
patience In buffalo With Josh allen not being surrounded by
elite players like A Matt stafford is or A Sam
darnold is Or mahomes and his titles were Or Jalen
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hurtz is or Now Kayleb williams. Is so here's what's
really fascinating about The Joe brady. Hire so, again we
all Knew sean McDermott was a very good. Coach he
may have struggled In, january he was a very good.
Coach have you Seen buffalo's schedule this, year? Folks they
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face THE Afc, west THE Nfc, north plus The rams
and The Houston. Texans these Are Joe brady's coaching opponents this.
Year Andy, Reid Mike frable, Twice Jim, Harbaugh Ben, Jonson Sean,
Payton sean, McVay Matt, Lafleur Demiko, ryans And Dan. Campbell
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now he does Get Aaron glenn. Twice that, Helps sorry J,
mac but look at, this that's like those That's hall
Of fame stuff as a rookie head coach without a
pro bowler, Defensively, SO i don't. KNOW i don't know
How i've said, Before SOMETIMES i just have to watch.
STUFF i Think Clink koobeek's a good HIGHER i gotta see.
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IT i Think Fernando mendoz gonna be a good. QUARTERBACK
i got to see. It you ever go to a prize,
fight a boxing? Match can you think you? KNOW i
went to a Couple pacquil fights in my life And i'm,
LIKE i don't. Know middle of second, Round i'm, like,
Oh pacio's gonna win this. Fight so, LIKE i have
to See Joe brady In. BUFFALO i have no. IDEA
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i Thought sirianni was over a skiz completely and he's
got a. Trophy Here's Joe brady on becoming The bills.
Speaker 9 (40:19):
COACH i know IT'S i might be in the head coaching,
role But i've to, Me i've woke up with the same,
mindset same approach every day That i've been. Coaching the
only difference Is i'm going to a different, office RIGHT
i know the guys aren't, here and it's a little.
Different i'm you, KNOW i might be on my phone
a lot more Than i'm usually never on my, phone
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And i've been on my phone more THAN i ever
have in my life the last. Week but my, approach
my work, ethic the Time i'm waking, up nothing's. Changed
it's kind of WHO i.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
AM i always root for. Coaches it's really. Hard you
don't see your. FAMILY i don't root against. COACHES i
mean it's pretty obvious on certain coaches very. Quickly that's
not gonna. Work i'm not rooting against. Them it's just
not gonna. Work Joe brady may, work but when you
look at the coaches he's gonna face and he doesn't
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have a pro bowler on. Defense that's a lot of
good coaches and a lot of good. Quarterbacks speaking of,
that it is, like what a. Nightmare honest to, God
Andy reid vrabel. Twice all of these are road. GAMES i,
mean he got the short end of the stick on
year one, coaches you have to face with high expectations
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with A gm who's getting all sorts of heat because
of his drafting. Record his drafting record on offense has
been pretty. Good Keon coleman second round receiver pick hasn't.
WORKED i liked him in. COLLEGE i thought it was
a good. PICK i thought it was gonna. WORK i
watched him At Florida state And i'm, like, OH i
take a, while but he'll be. Good greg co sells
around the corner and a list yes already on next
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here