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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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year outside of the football season is NFL free agency
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Gunzaga basketball coach stopping by today a couple of weeks
away from March Madness. So we had a huge trade
one minute before yesterday show between the Rams and the Chiefs.
We've got another one just came down bare Err in
the Buffalo Bills. So everybody has been throwing shade at
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Brandon being the GM of the Bills. I like the move.
He just got DJ Moore wide receiver, a number one
ride receiver who never misses starts the dude hasn't missed
a start in like five years. Dj Moore worked with
Joe Brady, the head coach, the new head coach of
the Bills in Carolina, and he had his best year.
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So Dj Moore is absolutely a number one. The Bills
drafted Luther Burden and Roman Dunza, and they've got Colston
Lovelin and two backs, so Chicago doesn't need They got
to start getting ready. They may have to make another
move here, Max Crosby maybe need some cap space. But
now Buffalo, Buffalo's got their quarterback, they're running back, they're
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left tackle, slot receiver, excellent tight ends. Now they've got
their number one. So if keon Coleman, you know who knows,
maybe he works, maybe he doesn't. Take's wide receivers a
while to work themselves into high end luxury play. If
he works, great, If he doesn't, fine, But look at
Buffalo's offense and they're gonna give up mid round pick,
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probably give up like a four. But this is a
move I like. Then it also creates clarity. Buffalo can
now use all their picks on the defensive side because
they've got slot perimeter, young receiver, quarterback that doesn't get
hurt much left tackle, running back tight ends their set.
Nice move and the Bears little cap relieve here maybe
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big game hunting. And I want to talk about that
because the Rams yesterday gave up another first round pick.
Now they still have one left. But they have traded
nine of their last ten first round picks. Yet their
Super Bowl favorites. Yet they have the second most playoff
wins outside of Kansas City in the last eight years,
only one losing season. How do they do it? How
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is it possible? Deepest roster next to Seattle in the league,
maybe Philadeli? How do they do it? In that same
time period, the Jets have had twelve first round picks,
the Raiders have had eleven, and they both stink. It's
not that the Rams undervalue picks, but is it possible
the rest of the league mostly overvalues picks. We've talked
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about this with Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys fall in love with
their picks. They don't spend much money in free agency.
The Cowboys draft somebody, then they pay them, and they
often pay them two or three times. I don't like that.
There are just many ways to be great in this league.
The Seahawks do it through the draft and then go
small game hunting. The Rams get a lot of picks
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in the mid rounds like Pooka and Kyron Williams, and
then they go big game hunting. Davonte, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford,
Trent McDuffie yesterday. It's not like the Rams are giving
away the first round picks for nothing. They got Goff, Jalen, Ramsey, McDuffie,
Matt Stafford are getting something for it. But success and
excellence in the NFL, once again, is not just one framework.
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You know, it cracks me up when you go on TikTok.
It's like, here's how to solve your liver. Here's how
to absolutely invest this will guarantee a longer life. It's
a bunch of grifters. There's a lot of different ways.
Some people have good genetics, some people have bad genetics.
Some people eat like crap and look great at sixty.
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There's no one way to do anything. Hell, Tim Burton
and Christopher Nolan both made a Batman movie. They both
worked okay, and they were very different. So you know,
the Rams do it one way. They're trading the first rounder.
The Buffalo Bills just went out and took a big swing.
I would say this with the Chicago Bears. I think
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part of moving Dj Moore is open up space for
Max Crosby. Max Crosby is so much better than anybody
you're going to draft at the end into the first
round what the Chicago Bears are doing. So I'm not
against or four trading first round picks, but if I
get Max Crosby, Jalen Ramsey in his prime, Matt Stafford,
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Jared goff Trent McDuffie, absolutely, okay. So it's funny about this,
and we've said this before, is that you know, everybody
likes their president that they vote for, right. Everybody hates
senators except sometimes their own. You know, we're all that way.
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So people loved Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan spent a lot
of time at the free throw line. He wants to
average twelve free throws a game. Nobody complained three times.
Kobe Bryant averaged ten free throws a game. Nobody complained
about it. K D Crickets he averaged early in his
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career over ten free throws a game. Crickets his game fluid,
it's clean, catch and shoot, fits everywhere. But people are
really up in arms because SGA shoots a lot of
free throws, but he's shooting last night two in the
fourth quarter. That was it two. And I've never heard
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a guy get more flak for shooting two in the
fourth quarter. Here's Nick's coach in a loss, very good
game on Sga.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
One of the areas, obviously, is the free throw line.
You know SGA is, he's a tough cover, and he
does a great job of convincing the referees, probably better
than anybody in the league that that you know, he's
getting hit.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
So what people in the NBA are trying to convince
me of is that either the league's rigging it for
a skinny kid who's not very verbal from a tiny
market Oka. See, that's what Adam Silver wants. Let's have
our powerhouse be in our smallest market. Or you're trying
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to convince me that the refs on a nightly basis
all get fooled and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
go there. If you don't have Shack's power or Lebron's
body or ants vertical and you're six six and a
buck ninety four, you have to manipulate, and you have
to find your game. He's a wirey sixty six a
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buck ninety five. So for the record six six and
a buck, I wear buck ninety five and I'm six
one and a half. He's thin. In a pro athlete league,
he does get bumped a lot. So and also, I
think when you don't have certain athletic gifts and he
doesn't have big hops, you know you're not doing tomahawk slams.
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Tom Brady? Why was he so good pre snap? Same
with Drew Brees and Payton Manning because they had to be.
Why I was Philip Rivers good pre snap because he
had to be. So. I think the truth about this
with SGA is you don't like his game. You love
Michael's game, you love Kobe's game, and they lived at
the free throw line. You just don't like his game.
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It's not flashy, it's not fun to watch, right, and
it's not. But I mean Kevin Durant, Michael Kobe games
people love lived at the free throw line. You know
what I look at SGA. You know what I see?
I see a football player. I say, I see JSN,
the wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Neither are truly
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gifted athletically JSN both though, can manipulate coverage, both ascending
statistically every year they get better, so they clearly work
on their craft work, ethic manipulation iq EQ. That's what
I see. Jsn's olways open and SGA off and gets
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to the free throw line. How how do they do it?
Because they're smart guys, and they use their body and
they manipulate other players. When you don't have major hops,
you don't worry about getting in the air. You worry
about getting other people in the air. So SGA does
a great job to compromise defenders. And for the record,
SGA's game is very unique. It fooled the Clippers front office.
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They gave him away. He was only the number eleven
draft pick. So this guy's been fooling the league and
tricking the league and making defensive players, putting them in
compromising spots. Let's give him credit. It's not about the refs,
it's not about the whistle. The Clippers good front office
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didn't see it. First ten picks in the draft did
not see it. It's like JSN, he's arguably the best
player out of that draft, but he wasn't a burner.
He doesn't run past people, so we you know, we
love to do that. For the record, I just I
want to show. I mean, I'm not saying SGA didn't
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have style here he was after the gig.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, late game, they were like sitting a lot of doubles,
and I just felt like I ain't got a shot
in a long time, and I wanted to like kind
of have my imprint on the game, especially late. So
I tried to just like a screen game, So I
tried to reject it to get space, and then OG
was like chasing to cut me off, so I knew
I had a step back, stepped into it, knocking out.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
By the way, why does some things look so good
on some people and so bad on other people? That
jacket just would not work with me at all. But
SGA pulls it off, just like he pulls off getting
to the free throw line about seven, eight nine times
a game, or two times in the fourth quarter last night.
Let's give him credit and JSN credit for getting open.
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It's not about the refs deciding we want this kind
of quiet guy, skinny guy that's not vertical in tiny
Oklahoma City to dominate the league. That's not it. So
Jmak the Buffalo Bills. Everybody crapped on their GM Brandon Bean.
We also have to be fair. If you look at
Buffalo this morning, you can look at Baltimore and have
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questions about Lamar's deal. You can look at Kansas City
and ask are they the third best team in the division.
You look at Buffalo's offense, new stadium, Weather's going to
be a little better, not as windy now they had
a number one wide receiver. I'd feel pretty good if
I was a Bills fan. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I think this is a big move, especially when you
combine it with the Patriots losing Stefan Diggs. I mean,
you look at the Patriots wide receiver room now and
they need a guy aj Brown out there on the market.
But I think djmore really good get for the Bills.
I think the Bears don't lose much when you consider
Luther Burton, Romadunze the tight end situation.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
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good deals for both teams.
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Speaker 1 (13:51):
You're now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored by Credible
Rate Rates, None of the bull. So the Buffalo Bills
have already made a move today. Kansas City made a
move yesterday. The Rams did to get Trent McDuffie, and
they got all sorts of draft picks. Kansas City got
a first round pick, a fifth to sixth, the third
round picks. The Kansas City now has two first round picks,
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and they've got a couple of needs. But everybody is
bury in Kansas City. And my take is people did
to this with the Rams, but they had Stafford and
they had Sean McVay, and they win a Super Bowl,
they go five and twelve, everybody's beat up, and then
all of a sudden, next three years playoffs in a
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great division, and now they're favored to win the super
Bowl next year. Don't bury Kansas City. It's like a
real estate. If you got an ocean view and a
good school district. I don't care what the economy is
doing nationally, Yours is not going to go through the floor.
You're okay. Kansas City with two first round picks, and
I believe now Kansas City is on a short list
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of teams that will move up in this draft, potentially
move up. Most people want to move down because it's
considered an okay draft. Kansas City at nine, Now they've
got a couple of fives. Okay, Now Kansas City's got
two ones. Would not be shocked if Kansas City moved
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up three or four spots and got Jeremiah loved the
running back out of Notre Dame. Problem solved in the backfield.
Next pick, get a tackle, next pick after that, get
a corner to replace Trent McDuffie. I think he'll be good.
So it's just funny to watch everybody. Barry and I
said this, when you have the head coach and the
quarterback right, you can heal the skin heels very quickly.
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I mean a great example of that. Vrabel ends up
with Drake May Awful to Super Bowl Chicago train Wreck
to a play from the NFC championship. So you give
me Andy Reid and you give me Patrick Mahomes. If
they nail their first two picks, by the way, moving
off McDuffie, they may be able to afford Walker, the
running back out of Seattle. I think they're going to
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be fine. Here's Albert Rear yesterday on why Kansas City
traded McDuffie. A great corner.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
They've drafted and developed pretty well the last few years.
And you know, so that's meant negotiating new contracts with
these guys.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
And some of them get done and some of you,
some of them you don't.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
So this sort of sets up like the Tyreek Hill
deal did, right, like where the Tyreek Hill deal.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
Gave him an opportunity to reset a bunch of things
in their roster.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So they've got two first, a second, a third of four,
three fives and a six. Watch them play around with
their three fives and a six to move up. Get
the tackle, get the running back, get the corner. I'm
not burying Kansas City. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
No, no, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
All right, God, let's start with this DJ Moore trade.
It's weird like they announced. You know, these reporters are
tripping over themselves to announce.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
We got a trade. We don't even know what the
compensation was.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
They're calling it mid round comp could be a third, fourth, fifth.
I guess we got a weak to find out. Obviously,
it's a good move for Buffalo adding a top tier receiver.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I don't know you called him a one. Oh, I mean,
I don't know. I don't know that it matter low
end one, high two. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
No, I'm talking.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
About a guy who had six hundred yards last year.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, but he's also a lot of that's because the
Bears quarterback runs two good backs, two tight ends, other
good receivers. That's not because they don't like him. It's
because they're fairly stacked on offense. I like this move
by Ryan Polls the Bears GM. They want to clear
up some space. They got to fix their defensive line.
They need more edge pressure. They need probably a safety
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and a corner. They got to get faster at linebackers.
So their issues are defensive. So if they get it,
let's say they get a fourth round pick and a six.
You know what, it's a numbers game. More picks, better
chance you hit a few of them. So I like
it a lot for Buffalo, and I like it a
lot for Chicago. I really did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Now, the only thing with Buffalo, let's remember that game
against Denver in the playoffs. They couldn't get any stops.
That's the reason they lost that game. Like Josh Allen,
can you manufacture offense?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
So I like it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I'm just curious what the Bears are going to end
up doing in the draft.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
So we like their receivers, right, Burden and a Jenza,
two young, good.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Cheap receivers. Do they need like a veteran Do they
need one other guy?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Because you said yesterday the Rams have Davonte and Puca
and they need another receiver.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Do the Bears do they fall into that same situation?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, no, the Bears need an edge rusher and a center.
I mean, okay, I mean Roma Dunze, Luther Burden. I
mean they've shown an ability to find skill people. You know,
they'll probably again if they get a mid round fourth,
go get another wide receiver. But I think their offense
is fine. They do have to get a center. But
the good news they have Joe Toney and Jonah Jackson
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on the both sides, so they're fine. But Drew Dalmen
was a pro bowler, so they got to get that fixed.
But you know, I think Chicago and Buffalo have to
feel pretty good today, certainly.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
All right, let's move on to the next story. Sticky
in the AFC East. I alluded to this earlier. The
Patriots have dumped Stefan Diggs, the troubled wide receiver. He's
I didn't realize this. He's thirty two years old. This
guy's getting up there in age, and we know off
the field he's an absolute disaster us.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know he was he was he a problem this
year for New.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
England on the field, No, he was good. He delivered
on the field, he was a solid receiver.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Well what did he do off the field?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, he got in trouble with the law, and he's got,
you know, a court situation. He's got the girlfriends like
this guy's been on three teams at three years, Colin,
he's gone. It's over for him in New England. I
don't know what kind of market there is for him.
I think the bigger question is what do the Patriots
do to fill that void? And everybody's gonna say aj Brown.
I think that's almost too obvious at this point, right.
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I wonder if some people are speculating maybe they throw
a hail Mary. They've got a lot of cap room
given the quarterback on the rookie deal. Do they go
after Pierce to stretch the field receiver from Indy?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I like Pierce a lot. I think that's a good caller.
So they gotta get offensive line right. They need an
edge rusher. Pierce would be a good fit for me.
I like him.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So the problem is the numbers that are being thrown
around are a little goofy.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
They're like, oh, yeah, he could get thirty.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
Million a year.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I'm like, whoa hold on?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
What?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Like, listen, he's a good stretch the field guy. He
was fantastic with Daniel Jones throwing the deep ball. Drake
May throws a great deep ball. It feels like a
natural fit. But thirty mil.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I think if I honestly think the young receivers for
New England probably well coached, get better. My take is,
if you get the offensive line right in New England,
you don''t have to worry as much about wide receiver.
They said they're only they got to a Super Bowl
with a very average O line and J Mack. That
is hard to do. Cincinnati did that with Burrow and
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New England did it. It's hard to get playoff w's
with an average O line. So my take, if they
significantly upgrade their offensive front, New England's gonna be fine.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I totally forgot this.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Last year, the Patriots were rumored to have made a
play at Chris Godwin. Well, his teammate Mike Evans is
on the market. Mike Evans, now he's a great red
zone target, will be awesome. Yeah, we know he's very talented.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Play older, good red zone guy.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Interesting, So Patriots got options and they got the quarterback
on the rookie deal. Final story, Colin Is Baseball Team USA. Yep,
Oh my gosh, they're just hammering teams. Beat the Giants
fifteen to one, scored fourteen on the Rockies in exhibition play.
They took on Brazil tomorrow at eight eastern on Fox.
It should be a very good game, and we've already
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had two good games in pool play. South Korea beat
check to you eleven to four. In Australia shutout Chinese
TYPEE three zero. Obviously, everybody's fired up to see Otani
tomorrow morning, five am Eastern on FS.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I think this was a smart buy by US. I'll
be honest with you. I don't want to suck up
the bosses, but I there's one or two things if
I ran a sports network that are under the radar
that I would spend money on this. This is actually
especially coming in an Olympic year. This is a winter
Olympic year. People are into the patriotism. I think people
will enjoy that. I bet this does better than people think.
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I think it's going to do well.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I mean, listen, you got the big names, right, Judge Otani,
You got Bryce, Bryce Harper, Yeah, Jamie got Well.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping that the herd
Line news.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's interesting. We had Rick Patino on yesterday and he
was great and by gone Zaga's standards, even though they've
won I think twenty two or twenty three, they're twenty
eight and three, they're kind of under the radar for
Gonzaga standards. And Mark Few who has a pretty high
standard himself, two time National Coach of the Year. You know,
I had Patino on yesterday. He's a pretty good coach.
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I'm not sure you heard of him. He's a pretty
good coach. And uh I asked him. I said, you know,
a lot of these guys get older and they get
out of this business. And I'm like, you're still firing away.
And he's like, listen, you got to adapt. He goes,
I've got guys from Ghana and Europe. He's got five continents,
and you still have amazing energy. And I think, knowing
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you a little bit, I think one of the things
you're good is adaptability. So and Patino kind of laughed
at it. He was like, I got so many European players.
Give me if I said to you, over the last
three years, mark you've had to make you've had to
adapt with something with the nil and transfer port. What
is the one thing you've had to totally adapt to?
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Well, first of all, great job of kissing up to
the bosses and name dropping in the last you know,
forty five.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Seconds, mission accomplished.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Well, awesome question. Hard to maybe say the one thing?
You know?
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I would say kind of the you.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Know, as you know, following us all these years, we
red shirt guys and we got them in our program
three four or five yep years and that was the standard,
right and now kind of looking around, I got a
bunch of one year guys that are either freshmen or transfers,
and maybe a two.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Year guy here and there.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
But yeah, just the general continuity in college basketball, and
that can be you know, also due to guys leaving.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
Early for the NBA and all that.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
But that's been the hardest thing, I think, is just
always fighting for your culture even though like you're looking
around and like you got to explain it.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
To these guys. Yeah, you know, and they haven't experienced
it yet.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah. You know, your front court scoring is big this year,
not as much in the back court. And when I
think of Gonzaga I kind of always think of balance
from the bench on. But it feels like to me
a lot of your scoring this year is front court
instead of backcourt. Does that you know everybody talks about
guard play in the tournament. Does that concern you at all?
Speaker 9 (24:51):
Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah it does.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
And our back court play has been you know, spectacular.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
At times and then not so spectacular at times, and
so it does.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
But you know, I think back to your point about adaptability.
I think, you know, over the years, we've been front
core dominated. We've been backcourt dominated, we've been great balance dominated.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
If you think that twenty one team.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
And you know this year we got a fantastic interior
player and grahamy K. We had two of them with
Braydon Huff and grahamy K. I think that probably callin
been the biggest story to us this year. We've never
faced the level of adversity via injuries that we have
this year. I mean, Brydon Huff's a national caliber Award
guy and for him to be out this long than
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we've lost Jalen Worley and we even lost Ek for
a while, yep. So it's been really strange.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Patino was saying yesterday with the NIL bringing kids from
Europe over that he doesn't remember college basketball being this
deep and strong. I watched Michigan last Friday play Illinois.
It's like an NBA. They're huge. You guys played them
and got kind of rolled. I mean, I don't sure
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how you prepare for them. What did you make of
Michigan the odds on favorite, Well, they.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Were terrific tonight we played him and they The one
thing they did that night that I think is they're
just their slightest little hiccup in their you know team,
and it's not really even a hiccup, but they shot
the ball extremely well. They shot the cover off that
against us, and Dust even said so afterwards. But their size,
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you're so right, is I mean, it's NBA level size
quite frankly, with the bodies and everything they're playing. You know,
Luxembourg at the three, you know, and he's probably six'
nine to fifty or something and great size around the,
rim great, plan moved the ball really. Well they were
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spectacular in transition back. Then and, again you, know in that,
game you're three games in three. Days you don't really
have a whole lot of time to prepare. For the
teams in their league have starting the kind of game
plan form a little.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
Bit they're.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Good, tommy my old, Assistant Tommy lloyd's having a great
year At. Arizona they're, very very. Good there's some really
really nice teams out. There when we get totally, HEALTHY
i think we can compete with any of, them you.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
Know but in the, MEANTIME i give this group a
lot of. Credit.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Man we've just been hanging in there and winning, games
even though we've been down some pretty key.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Personnel by the.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
WAY i was thinking about you the other day Because
shryshewsky put you In. Beheim you, know you guys were
The olympic. Coaches you guys have Always you And beheim
are close And beheim got a lot of. Crap But
i'll say this For. Beheim he Leaves. Syracuse well what
happened To? Syracuse AND i asked you once About john
Kla perry and you're, like you, guys he's a great.
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Coach it's funny that people get certain labels in. Coaching
and now all you college, GUYS i think college feels
a little more pro with all the international. Stuff has
it changed you as a coach dealing sometimes there's inguage.
BARRIERS a lot of The european guys aren't used to
they're not as good, Defensively patino, said some of these
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guys couldn't guard. Me has it changed you as a?
Speaker 9 (28:09):
Coach?
Speaker 8 (28:13):
NO i MEAN i THINK i hate to just you,
know as you, know just throw out stereotypes and. Generalize you,
know uh S bonus was a, fierce fierce uh tough
as they. Come.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
Uh you, know.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Guy ernowski was you, know he made his big impact
on the defensive. End as anybody might even Been Defensive
player of The year and that year he should have.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
Been.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
Uh so you, know it's it's it's it's uh an,
individual the, INDIVIDUAL i would, say having done and have
all the great experiences WITH usa, basketball the uh this
this high turnover, rate uh to what you, said the,
adaptability the, boy you sure learn from those, guys you
know how to adapt with just you, know their rosters
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are always changing at THE nba, level and guys are
out and load managing.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
And and doing all.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
This oh that's really HELPED i think and just maybe
maybe a little more patience and maybe understanding, that, hey,
well you, know we're not going to click like maybe
our twenty one.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Team did or our nineteen team or.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Whatever but you, know there's some things we do really
really well that are a little different maybe than some
of those. Teams we're a really really good defensive team this.
Year it's a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Underrated THE nil has it made some players harder to?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Coach you, KNOW i was really leary of that and
watching it really, closely AND i and my, experience, no you,
KNOW i mean it's just now, listen man's it is
a royal pain in the rear here when we hit
the off season like you wouldn't, believe because, literally we
have no.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
RULES i, mean you could sign with.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Me tomorrow and then you, know sign with somebody else
a week from, now and so there's we literally have
no rules right.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
NOW i think that's the hardest, thing this roster.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Building but you know, what once like, practice once you
get into your, mode you have your team in the
fall and you start. PRACTICING i haven't noticed any difference
along those. Lines you, know there Is colin though this
there is the difference of uh you, KNOW i mean
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you just you're not maybe quite as hard on guys
as you used to be back in the, past challenging
them and.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Stuff, yeah because they can. Bail but you, KNOW i
mean you don't RECRUIT i, mean you don't recruit a
lot of high maintenance. GUYS i, mean, yeah you. Don't
you don't have that that's not really YOUR i, mean
if you go To, gonzaga you got to leave your
ego at the. DOOR i MEAN I i you, know, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Yeah hey and listen, now hip to go into shameless
self promotion or something, Here but we have this wonderful
documentary that just was done on Gun zaga. Basketball and
they premiered it the other night AND i watched, it
and it brought home so many of these points of
what our program's all, about you, know and one of
it was that, was you, know.
Speaker 9 (31:05):
We don't deal with high, maintenance and.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
You know you're here to you, know there's a culture,
here and there's a family atmosphere, here there's a work
ethic here that's just, innate and.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
Everybody just kind of buys into.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
It and it was great to have our current guys
sit through that thing and watch. It so many of,
them you, know.
Speaker 9 (31:26):
You think they know, it but they.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Don't AND i don't want to, bory but the best
STORY i got out that we have a, transfer ty
On Grant foster AND i, Said, ty what was the
biggest thing you took out of? That and he's, like Coach,
MAN i couldn't believe That Adam morrison was at the
thing last, night you, Know AND i was, Like, ty you,
know he's our radio guy and is at half our
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meals on the road and walking around here and he's
around the gym and he's, LIKE i didn't even recognize,
him you.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
Know he remembered him with long, hair the mustache and
he had no. IDEA i don't.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Know so sometimes it's good to be just reminded of
what this place has been all, about what it stands,
for and why we've kind of had the run we've.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
HAD i don't even know how old you. Are you're
in great shape and you're like you work out and
you bike. Everywhere how long are you going to do?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
This oh?
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Man as long as it's it's still you know, Something i'd,
say something that you enjoy and how can you not,
enjoy you, know being around athletics.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
Like, you, know like you, too you, know you get
to talk about, it around it all the, time.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
You. KNOW i would, say as long as WHEN i
quit feeling like Maybe i'm having this big impact on
him and and not you, know helping them grow as
much as as you, Can i'd say that would be
that that's going to be the big kind of flection
point for.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Me who's the best player you played this year in
the sport? Single best player you?
Speaker 8 (32:51):
Faced Oh, Man luxembourg was terrific against. Us you hit
the first jump shot right in front of me and
and was just PHYSICALLY i thought he was the. Best
we haven't you, know teed it up against any of these.
Freshmen they're having some great. Years but you, know there's
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some veterans out there that are having some great years
THAT i think are getting a little overlooked with all
this freshman.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Hype, yeah, hey do You i'm not into this tournament.
EXPANSION i don't like. IT i don't even like the
first four nonsense start On, thursday sixty four. Teams i'm.
Good don't confuse my small. BRAIN i don't want. It
what do you make Of what do you make of?
Expansion i'm with you on. IT i don't think it
needs to be watered down. Anymore and you, KNOW i
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don't want to dilute the regular.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Season you, KNOW i want this last month where people
are are really sweating it and scratching to get into
this thing and make it something that's really really prestigious.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
To just to get.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Into to have your name called on Selection, sunday that's
still a big thing to. Me does Heegn zaga pop
up there on Selection? Sunday AND i, think you, know
adding more is just going to water it.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Down his winning percentage is eighty three. Percent that's pretty.
Good oh you. See Kevin durant said he plans to
play in The olympics In Los. Angeles you KNOW kd pretty.
Well what was he like to?
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Coach, awesome this, awesome awesome, guy just a wonderful player
and just a great. Teammate he was so, great uh
as a, teammate and the, uh the.
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Synergy between him And Anthony edwards was just.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
Priceless Anthony, edwards you, know grew up idolizing THE kd
and and uh they were kind of on the floor
together a lot.
Speaker 9 (34:45):
With our our our one of our.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Groups and it was fun to watch Even ant kind
of defer to him a little bit and get such
great joy when he SAW kd hit a jumper and.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
Just you Know steph's threes and, uh you Know louell cinder.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Skyhook Kevin durant's pull up man has to go down
as one of the most, legendary you, know iconic shots
in all of basketball.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
HISTORY i think it's about as automatic as you can. Get.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
YEAH i, said if you take out centers and you
had an all time one on one, TOURNAMENT i would
TAKE kd to even BEAT, mj BECAUSE i don't THINK
mj could stop, him AND i don't THINK i don't
Think lebron could shoot with. HIM i THINK kd individually
is as good an offensive. Player i'm not talking about you,
KNOW i don't Want shack in my one on one
tournament Or. Kareem but if you took all the other,
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Players i've never seen a guy. Score maybe you have
because you coach pros and it looks so. Easy you
can give him the ball in the last second half
of the shot. Clock he gets an effortless. Jumper he can.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Get it off on anybody anytime he. Wants you, know
he can get that shot off no matter what defense you're.
In but let's poster, say let's not discount you, Know
lebron in one on. One he's still got that, heart
he still got that, brain he.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
Still got that.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
TOUGHNESS i wouldn't count him out on any sport where
you're keeping.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Score Mark Few gonzaga coach uh as. Always you know
it's okay to suck up to your bosses once in a.
While you're a powerful. Coach you don't have to suck
up to YOUR a. D i'm still just trying to
get by here and get a, check all, right yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:18):
Right killing it in the ratings, thing demanding a move
To chicago LIKE i, say you're doing okay for.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Yourself, Hey i'm going to the state tournament today In.
Washington you remember those?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Days where is it At? St mary's Ups Ta.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
Comodome Ta Coma. Doome so, YEAH i figured you'd remember
those days back when the old.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Ground oh, yeah, Boy i'd get on a. Heater you
couldn't stop, me that's for. SURE a little crossover pull
up couldn't stop. Me, right that's. Right good seeing, You,
Mark yeah you, too call? Him, YEAH i. Remember, yeah
The Tacoma dome that WHEN i was really, young there
was there wasn't To Koma. Dome it was The. Kingdome
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then they built The Tacoma dome and they put all
the high school state championships in. There, okay it is
a done. Deal The bills deal is a done. Deal woo.
Wee bear's got a second and a. Fifth bear's got
a second round pick OFF Dj. Moore, wow a second
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and a. Fifth so The bears now hold, on hold, On.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Oh, WELL Dj moore and if, YEAH dj moren't, here
The bills are sending a twenty twenty six second round
pick to The.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Bears, okay so Basically chicago's gonna have a first and
two seconds and a. Third that's the, key the four
top picks for The.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
BEARS i, Mean, colin this is a horrible deal for The.
Bills what happened to mid round? Compans a second round
pick FOR Dj?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Moore what does that?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Mean Aj brownsworth a first. Stunned i'm. Stunned holy, cow
that's a lot FOR Dj.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Moore so The bill's GOT Dj moore and a fifth round.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Pick, yeah and The bear's got a second round pick
FOR Dj, moore who had six hundred yards and six.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Touchdowns he's a good, receiver but a second round pick
that seems really. Rich, Colin holy, COW i don't. Know
a second round pick that's huge. Value you could get receivers.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Down IF i Said deliver had eight hundred and fifty,
yards remember he had his best year Under brady down In.
Carolina IF i SAID Dj moore had eight hundred and
fifty yards and six, touchdowns you'd be, Like, okay second
round pick who hit about fifty seven percent of the,
time sixty percent of the. Time THAT'S i don't. KNOW i, mean,
LISTEN i, LIKE i like proven stars who don't miss.
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Games fair That's Dj. Moore he hasn't missed a start in.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Forever does this speak to a desperation level that The
bears would give up a second round pick For?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Jails The, bills we give up a second round pick
FOR Dj.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Moore i'm gonna say, desperation it's a.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Need, well they clearly didn't have themo for Aj, brown
so they're, like all, right well we'll go FOR Dj.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Moore woo In, chicago it's The.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
Herd be sure to catch live editions Of The herd
weekdays and Noon easter not A.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Empacific, yesterday the big, Trade rams Getting trent McDuffie giving
up a first round pick to The. Chiefs the big.
Deal today The bears get a second round, pick TRADING
Dj moore To. Buffalo So buffalo and The rams field
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they're in The Super bowl. Bubble The rams were missing
a top, corner they go buy. One The bills we're
missing a number one, receiver they go buy. ONE i
like what The rams. DID i like what The bills.
Did and now That Drew dolman's, retired The bears get
another second round. Pick bears are going to go edge, corner,
interior old, lineman you, know maybe another defensive, tackle maybe a.
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Safety we know what The bears. Need they need an edge,
rusher another, corner and some speed at. Linebacker now they
need a. Center so you, Know i'm set it. YESTERDAY
i think they they're still not. Done IF i was The,
bears i'd give it my first round. Pick once you
have the. Quarterback first round picks are not as. Valuable
you need those first round picks if you don't have
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a quarterback because you got to be better everywhere. Else
but once you have A stafford or An, allen first
round picks aren't as. Valuable Caleb, williams you can move.
On So i'd give up to first For Max. Crosby
if that was the bottom, Line i'd give. Up, remember
The bears are going to be, good so they're giving
up a late first this. Year it'll be a late
first next. Year that's death. Valley that's no man's land
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for a general. Manager is being twentieth pa and beyond
that's a second round. Talent you're paying a first round.
Price so to Get Max crosby for a couple of
like twentieth and twenty next year it will be the
twenty sixth, pick no problem. Whatsoever rams have been doing
it they've mastered. It it doesn't. Matter go big game,
hunting watch The. Rams you get a smart offensive, coach
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get a star. Quarterback you don't need first round picks
nearly as. Much, again when you don't have the, quarterback
you do because you have to be better on defifth
you have to be better running the. Football, so by the,
Way Miles garrett got his ninth speeding ticket in the
last eight years for The Cleveland. Browns you, know there's
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nothing you can. Do what are the, repercussions best player
easily dysfunctional. Franchise head coaches don't, last quarterbacks don't. Last you,
know what are they gonna? Do you, know he's a great.
Player AND i always HAD i told, THIS i told
everybody this. Morning the more boring the city you live,
in you have to manufacture. Fun and you, know he's
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driving one hundred miles an hour in a sixty and it's,
like you, know not very. Responsible but it's The. Browns
AND i also think sometimes if you have a chance
to be a little squarely as a player in bad,
judgment if you're in a winning, organization you kind of
join the winning. Current you, know The rams don't have
a lot of guys get in, trouble you, know The
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San Antonio, spurs most of that. Franchise getting a lot
of guys in, trouble you kind of join the winning.
Current what happens when you're easily the best? PLAYER i
mean between The jets and The browns one playoff win
in thirty years. Combined what are they going to say
To Miles? Garrett he is the. STANDARD i, mean he
is the, standard and nobody else there can live up
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to his. Standard hour two on A thursday neck