March 9, 2026 • 42 mins
Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington fill in for Colin as they react to the news that the Miami Dolphins will be releasing Tua Tagovailoa this Wednesday to be a free agent. Plus, the guys react to running back Kenneth Walker III signing with the Chiefs as a huge domino to start free agency, we also have some more free agency news on the Herdline News, and more!!
#2pros
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Listen
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to
catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and
noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find
your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com,
or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app
by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio anyway we go.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
On a Monday, it is The Herd on Fox Sports Radio.
No colin, It is LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox in
for the crew here. We're going to take you all
the way up until three o'clock Eastern time, noon Pacific.
You can listen to this show as always on the
iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates
all across the country live during that three hour duration.
(00:53):
If you're listening on a podcast, we appreciate you doing so.
You can hear LeVar and I weekday morning, six am
Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific on a show called Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe alongside Brady Quinn. But
it is Styx and I a little bit of black
and drack on this Monday morning for some free agency
frenzy and legal tampering.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah you look, I'll still never understand. Well I'm overweight,
but thank you, No, I feel relieved. I feel relieved weight.
Everybody out there listening, you might not have known you
were rooting for me, but thank you for pulling for
me and rooting for me. I had a nice cup
of coffee on my twenty first anniversary with Big Trish,
(01:40):
and it was a great coffee. It's a very very
very nice gourmet coffee. Gave it some time to stay
at home, you know, had enough time to drink it
and do what you know coffee does to you for
you in the morning. But nothing really happened, you know.
I just had it, enjoyed, had nice hug. See when
(02:00):
I get back, got into the car, got to the
gas station, got the gas, got up out of the
gas station, was heading up onto the ramp to get
onto the traffic ridden highway to get me here. And
let's just say, while there was a ton of gridlock
and traffic on the highway, that gridlock in that traffic
(02:23):
opened up in my belly. Oh yeah, and I had
to go forty five fifty minutes of mind control to
make it here this morning and actually be able to
deliver the kids to the pool avoid of any accidents
(02:43):
or prematurely dropping them off. You know, you ever see
somebody like jump off of a roof or something like
being silly trying to get to the pool and they
don't make it to the pool. That's what I was
trying to avoid this morning. Yeah, spend some that have
tried it off this parking structure before going on. I
could have been on.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That list today. It was very close. But I did
make it everyone, So we're going to have a great show.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So here we go, all.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Right, Well, I guess that is the perfect transition. It
is a great transition. I mean, you know, from one
toilet to another, it is perfect. Two A tug of
my law and the Miami Dolphins are no more. The
Miami Dolphins have officially parted ways by releasing to a.
It is a ninety nine million dollars dead cap hit,
(03:31):
which is a record NFL record, and apparently they're gonna
split it over the next two years because they're going
to make him a post June one designation. But he's
going to make fifty four million dollars from the Dolphins
and that'll be that for the two A tugay Law
experience with the Miami Dolphins. Who I know a lot
(03:51):
of people are are taking the shots or the victory
laps now because they look at it and they go, oh, well,
you know, clearly he was the third best quarterback in
that class when you consider he was next to Joe Burrow,
and he was next to Justin Herbert and all that,
and Miami made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I get all that.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Look, they tried, they wanted Joe Burrow, they didn't get him,
and then they chose to over Justin Herbert. Clearly not
the right choice, not the right decision. But I do
think it also bears pointing out the concussions really changed everything,
completely changed everything for the trajectory of Tua's career. And
so because of that and other things, now Tua finds
(04:30):
himself away from Miami, gone from the Dolphins, and making
fifty four million dollars this next year.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Victory laps. I mean, if people want to take victory laps,
that's not a that wasn't a hard race to run
and win. I mean, I think a lot of people
felt as though, because of the cat situation, that the
Miami Dolphins were almost forced to try to figure out
what to do with Tua for another season at least,
bless you, and at the end of the the road
(05:01):
in this scenario, I think you have to take a
good look at it and say, man, like, this is
a record breaking record setting cap hit dig cap hit
loss in the league. And guess who set the record
not too long ago. You got it, You got it.
You know who said it? Russell Will we set that record?
(05:25):
So interestingly enough, coincidentally enough, Russell Wilson has not been
the same quarterback. Is there any comparisons here? Let's see,
you got an undersized quarterback, didn't have a legitimate running
attack to help him in the passing game. Passing game
kind of took a dip and suffered. Sounds a little
(05:47):
comparable in comparison. Jonas and I would say my biggest
question here is if I'm to a tongue of a
loa and I get to make fifty four million guaranteed,
I think, and that's before us structuring, right. I think
it might be more. It could be more. I'm not certain.
(06:07):
I wish we had Q to be able to discuss
the you know, the details of the contracts. But with
that being said, I'm just curious as to what do
you do? Isn't that the biggest question if you're too
a what do you do if you make this amount
of money and you got it as a parting gift?
(06:32):
Take care of your head, take care of your family.
I'm not one to tell you what to do, but
if I'm giving you advice on what I think would
be the best thing for you to do. Your game
did take a change for the dramatics of not being
as good once you were making sure you were limiting
the amount of times you were hit.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
The reports are that the Falcons are going to pursue
to A and the reason it would make sense for
Atlanta is because you've got Michael Pennix junior. You got
another lefty in two that you could bring in. Kevin
Stefanski's now the head coach there. He's done things with
quarterbacks before and and operated and done a really good
(07:17):
job with quarterbacks, and maybe people thought he couldn't get
a lot out of you know, case in point Joe
Flacco when he did it and brought him in any
One Comeback Player of the Year, which still, by the way,
one of the most amazing things and feats I've ever
seen in my life. Joe Flacco won Comeback Player of
the Year for a partial season and he beat out
a guy who almost died on the field. That's one
of the one of the great achievements in the history
(07:38):
of the NFL. So Kevin Stefanski, there's some thought that
he would bring into it. And the reason also financially
why it makes sense, similar to Kyler, is that because
of the money that they're making from their former team,
they can sign a low rate deal for a little
over a million dollars because they're still going to get
(08:00):
their full fifty plus million from there from from his
previous team. So if you're Atlanta and you want to
create some competition, if you're not sold on Michael Pennix
junior and you want to bring in another lefty to
the fold, Toua to Atlanta would make some sense. And
you know, you mentioned you know, if you're Tua, take
care of your head, take care of your health. Look,
(08:21):
we spent a long time talking about you know, the Samoans, the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Tongans, the Hawaiians. They don't operate that way, Brad. It's
not that's not the way they operate. It's a warrior
mentality he's going to play.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And I think that that, you know, in part, led
to look he's not a big guy, so yeah, he should,
you know, slide early, do this, But that's not That's
just not the way he That's not the way he.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I think he did avoid contact this past season, and
I think it did impact the way that his results were.
You know, within the games he.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Didn't I take hits and you didn't want to see
him take any hits in the season's past where you
saw those hits take place and he was on the
ground and his fingers was doing the crypt crip signs
and throwing up you know, gang signs out there on
the field like that, ain't it?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's not it? And sure I would assume you're right
in the fact that he will look at this and
want to continue to play. But if I'm a team
in the NFL, if I'm the Atlanta Falcons, the first
thing I'm looking at is his head injuries report. If
I'm any team in the NFL, I'm looking at the
(09:38):
head injury reports, and I just I just don't feel
compelled to take that chance. I think I could take
that chance with a lot of other quarterbacks. And while
there may be the opportunity or the potential of what
you could get out of to a coming to your team,
(09:58):
or even a safety considering to be maybe a safety
net for someone like a Michael Pennix who's also injury prone.
I think that I mentioned Russell Wilson earlier, and I
mentioned him not because of the injury. I just mentioned
that because of the fall off. Why take a chance
(10:20):
on a player that you already saw the falloff taking
place in Miami. I know you say coaches feel like
they can save these guys and my system can develop them.
And we have seen guys that didn't have great starts
to their careers actually come back to life in a
different setting. If that happens, it's great. But I think
the one determining factor here with two of that make
(10:42):
gives me tremendous pause, is his head. Injuries Like this
isn't about if you can clean up and fix him
playing the game, get better results from him as a quarterback.
He's been a good quarterback. He's been a good quarterback,
so it's not like he hasn't had success as a
quarter That's what led to him having this large contract
(11:03):
to begin with. The biggest concern and the biggest issue
and the reason why sometimes you got to save somebody
from themselves to it. Probably isn't going to go into
retirement after this, but he probably should. And if I'm
a team and I'm looking at this, if I'm looking
at a guy that because of head injuries, probably should
(11:25):
make the decision to walk away, He's got a great
payday to go, you know, live the rest of his
life and be comfortable with him and his family. And
you could do all the tongue in teas all you want,
wherever you want, playing some beach catch, play some catch
with your kids, with your family. You don't need to
do it in the NFL. I'm just saying, for me,
(11:47):
hard line stance. With that many head injuries and the
way it looked playing out on national television for all
to see over and over and over again multiple times,
maybe the best, the best decision to make is to
move on with your life. He did take a shot
this year.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I forget who it was, but I think it was
on a It might have been a Thursday night game.
I forget, Like what there was a game I watched
where he did take a shot like it was a
legitimate shot. To the head and he got right back up.
So I do think there's been some time since. But
what was your thought when you saw it?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
A hit? Oh? God? Like somebody call him medic? Okay, yeah,
Like so even if he got right back up, do
you not think that there was an impact on him
and on his hit, even though he was able to
get right back up.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It's the Alex Smith stuff. When Alex Smith came back
from that gruesome leg injury he suffered. I remember the
first game back, he was playing against the Rams, and
I was watching with my head kind of turned when
he got tackled the first time. It was Aaron Donald
and I just thought to myself, Man, bring him down
and off his feet, like, don't let his leg get planted.
(12:56):
Don't let So there's always that that sort of cost.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
That's a leg and so like you just can move
through life, like I know, because my pop, you can
move through life with a limb not being what it
needs to be. Like you can limp around, you can
you know, you could use the other hand, but your
head look and I get so much different. It's a
much bigger.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I also think that calls into question, you know, if
all of that stuff was on the table. Why did
the Dolphins give him the deal they gave him after
all that stuff was on the table.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
It's a very good.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And I think I think the reason they did it
is because they were sort of as in this in
between where he didn't show flashes of being the greatest
quarterback in the league. You're not going to find the
Mahomes or a Josh Allen in a Tua. But he
did play, and you mentioned this, he did play good football.
It's not like there was a thought that, you know,
the Brian Flores experiment happened, and Brian Flores, for anybody
(14:01):
that wants to, you know, kiss kiss his ass and
talk about all wow, he was right about Tua. No,
he butchered that from the get go, all right, like
he was pulling a rookie quarterback out of games early
so that Ryan Fitzpatrick could finish it. Like that doesn't
make any sense whatsoever. Go through the growing pains. We
talked about this for Fernanda Mendoza, and then all of
(14:22):
a sudden, Mike McDaniel gets there and he finds something
with Tua. He starts to play at a high level.
Tua was good. The concussions derailed everything. Like he played
at a high level. He played really good football. The
concussions derailed that. Stuff got in the way. And then
this past year happened, and you knew that his time
(14:45):
was limited in Miami based on the fact that he
started calling out teammates.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
This time was limited.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He started, he started total, he started calling out teammates.
There was some question and then he had to come
back after all that incidental.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It seemed good natured, good hearted, but the way it
was perceived after you could hear it, that was one
of those ones. Once he heard it, he probably wishes
he could have it back.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And I just you know what happened. And then afterwards
they're like, what would you think about a change of scenery?
He goes, you know, that's probably a good idea, Like
after the seat he just I think he just that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Change of scenery should be his crib. I mean, that's
that's changing scenery should be the vacating from the NFL altogether.
I also think coach coach.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I also think that he was in an impossible situation
because he was always going to be compared to Joe
Burrow and Justin Herbert, like that's that is.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Always First of all, he's made it to the playoffs,
just like those guys. Joe Burrow's made it to a
to a super Bowl. I get that, But I don't
know what Joe Burrow is going to be moving forward.
He was like in this weird space this past season
and justin Herbert all ways when he gets to the
playoffs right yet no, no, yeah, she thought he was
(16:04):
winning something. Hey, I said twenty one years today, Broy,
Jessica Alba, and Madison Beer got news for you, man,
I got news for you. Business as a quarterback is good.
Business is real good at quarterback. I'm just saying, man, hey,
(16:24):
if he's always going to be compared to them, get
on my level. Bro, Like he got his money and
and he's still seemingly I don't know what what Toua's
You know, vitals are on his activation and operation of
brain brain function. But if you still, like, bro, like
(16:46):
save your brain.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Man, seriously, And I'm not trying to like be on
no joking type matter on this.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
This is a very serious thing. It's funny because we
make it a point to focus in At least I've
made it a point to focus in on the amount
of cushions and head injuries he's had. But it happens
to probably other players more, other positions, more than the
quarterback's position. I just think that there's such a focal
point on the position that when something like that happens,
(17:14):
it hits a little different. You know, like like when
you're watching a movie or a cartoon or TV show
and then the TV show like the main character is
just busting off on people. Bow shot that person, that
bow shot that person, Like you can watch them take
down at least ten to fifteen people, but let somebody
cut them or let somebody like shoot them and they
(17:35):
gotta go. It's like, Oh, it hits you different. You're
like dese sensitized to actually looking at the impact on others.
I always say, you want to like have a cool show,
take one of the shows of where the hero is
busting off on everybody to get to the mission, and
then the objective of the TV show and do a
(17:58):
story on one of them people that he shot down.
He mowed down on his way to help and save
somebody's life. Anyway, the point I'm making is is that
we look at Tua and the the amount of importance
you place on his mental and head health is probably
(18:18):
much higher because of the amount of attention and time
that's been put on covering it and showing it, in it,
showing it. It's almost like it's sensationalized to sit there
and show the aftermath and the effects of when he's
gotten hit and has sustained these concussions.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well, you know, we uh from uh from toua to
tuy for some breaking news.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
You know it's you know what time it is, right,
it's it's.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Legal first big signing, guys. Alec Pierce from the Colts
is heading back to Indy four years, one hundred fourteen
million dollar deal. Corni schefter, rapaport Ian, rapaport A lot
of people thought he could be going to New England
or potentially Washington, Vegas, Tennessee. That's interesting. You know what,
(19:12):
let's Chris had a name. Let's not bury the lead here.
That's a win for us too.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah we did. Oh man, everyone out there wondering what
uh Jonas Knox is talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Alec Pierce happens to be white? That through what do
you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, clean cut, all American looking do from you know,
up top to he told you we could do it.
Played at Cincinnati. He's a beer cat, you know. Good
for him, man. And by the way, good player, good size,
good good, very good. Yeah. So uh yeah, going back
to Indy. There you go.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
One of the prizes of the off season. Would love
me some legal tam If we're gonna throw them the ball,
is it going to be Daniel Jones? You gotta figure
that one out.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I don't know. Two was campaigning for Jack Trudeau earlier
for some reason. I don't know what that was about.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He's got some left in an arm. I think, I
mean the cults. There are a lot of quarterbacks over
the past several years, so who knows.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
So so Ersa is making big moves and and uh,
Indy to make sure she's building that uh damn right
up the right way. Damn right. She's got enough information
in her notes that she looked at it and she
was in the office and said, you know what, Alec Pierce,
he fits the mole list, he fits the criteria. Somebody
that we need to keep here and give a nice contract.
(20:40):
Let's give him that.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's elite. No taking there it is. You have to
see me on that sideline taking them notes. By the way,
be sure be sure to check out our brand new
YouTube channel for the show. Just searched two pros FSR
on YouTube. Begin that's two pross. Be sure to hit
the subscribe button. Don't stop there, hit the thumbs up
icon and comment away. Let us know who the show
you agree with, who you think is wrong. But check
(21:02):
out our new channel on YouTube again. Just search two
pros FSR and subscribe. LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox in for
The Herd today and this went way better than anybody expected.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Over the weekend, we'll tell you what it is next.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noone Easter not a Empacific.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Steve Gott's here.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I have a podcast Empire. It continues to grow and
I have brought it here to iHeart. I'm also doing
a live radio show from three to five pm Eastern
because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house.
It's called Stegots and Company Live, which is available in
podcast form right when the show finishes. Every single day,
(21:45):
some of the biggest names in sports.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
A lot of phone calls. I love you guy, your show.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's one of my favorites.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
A lot of interact shit guys, not taking themselves too seriously.
Those are just some of the things that you could
expect from Stu Gotts and Company, Ends and Company Live.
So listen to ste Gods and Company Live and our
original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review ste Gotson Company
and God Bless Football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. You
(22:13):
do it today and you can check all of those
out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you
get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's a heard on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Jonas
Knox in for Colin. We are going to uh maybe
get into a little bit here about something that went
way better than anybody expected in the world of sports
over the weekend. But as we mentioned, it is the
legal tampering period. The window is opened in the NFL,
(22:46):
and it's time for some more breaking news from Towey,
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
This is a big one, guys. Kenneth Walker is joining
the Kansas City Chiefs. All right, big one, big one.
This kind of seemed inevitable after the Trump McDuffie trade, right,
like they were gonna going after a big fish. When's
the last time they had a dependable running back that
you could look at and go, that's the guy.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I mean Priest Holmes, dang, yeah, Larry Johnson came after
Priest home. What I mean, we all well, hold on,
come on, Larry Johnson was a beast.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Now they had what uh Charles, I like Pacheco. Yeah,
but just get hurt. It gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And look, you had Clyde Edwards, who was Hunt.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
There was a two two hitted monster. Hunt knew who
was that man? There there was two backs. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
They've had some pretty good backs though, I just I
look at but they haven't had a guy that you
look at guard. That's the bellcap back right, like, that's
the lead Denry and and you look at what Kenneth
Walker did late in the season. Zach Charbona goes down
and he was massive for them, and I was surprised
(24:14):
they didn't they didn't put the franchise tag on him.
I was surprised they let him walk. But I think
that's also an indication that they feel like, look, it's
a tough, tough call, tough decision. Appreciate everything he did.
You know, he's got to walk at the height of
his career, just won Super Bowl MVP, but we're just
going to go take our chances and try and get
cheaper at the running back position, trying to get cheaper.
(24:36):
We'll go get cheap like that's that's the way it
looks like. And we've talked about this before. To think
where the running back position was years ago, when it
next to quarterback was the face of the league, and
to where it is now, to where a guy just
won Super Bowl MVP and they're like see you, buddy,
(24:57):
like we'll see you, thank you. We're not even giving
a give you the tag, go have fun. Legal tampering
window opens. And now Patrick Mahomes has got some help
in the backfield and it's going to be Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Listen, it is some help. It certainly does help. Kenneth
Walker is a fine football player and showed how fond
of a player he was by being the best player
in this year's Super Bowl. That was going to be
a defensive heavy game. You were going to need your
(25:32):
running game to be a part of it, and Seattle's
run game delivered, and Kenneth Walker delivered. I guess I
would ask the question, I guess if it improves your team,
then there's nothing wrong with it. But I don't feel
(25:52):
as though bringing Kenneth Walker in alleviates the pressure that
you have mounting in terms of of letting McDuffie go
on the defense side of the ball. I'm curious to
see what they do to shore up their defense to
make sure that their defense is what it needs to
(26:14):
be moving forward, and curious as to what do you
do at the quarterback's position. Obviously you're going to try
to figure out how to run the ball or get
better at running the ball if you're cac because you
don't know what the future holds for Patrick Mahomes right
now and upcoming upcoming weeks and months and days of
(26:40):
his career. So until you can get him back healthy,
fully in the mix and ready to go and confident
in that leg and what he does, I would assume
that you have to one have a quarterback that can
stand in there and help you be competitive until he
(27:00):
gets back. But two, you want to have a running
game that alleviates the stress and the pressure on on
the guy that you're putting in there, and to that point,
to do it for Patrick Mahomes why he gets back
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
The Chiefs haven't had a thousand year old rushers since
twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I just looked it up. I was like, man, y'all
are right, it's just not been Kareem Hunt is probably
the closest they got to, like a guy that was
kind of pushing to be the bail Kyle back for them.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And you know, clearly they've had plenty of success, so
it's not like, well, that's going to really hold him back.
You know, the super Bowls, the dynasty, all that stuff.
But I do think this is also if you've got
a quarterback like Mahomes who's coming back from the injury
and they're optimistic that he's going to be there and
ready to go, you know, to start the year and all,
that's fine, but worst case scenario, he's not there. They
(27:49):
got to start off the season putting him on the
pup list. Okay, or he comes back he is ready
for the start of the season, but it takes him
some time to get used to the new normal, which
is a surgically repaired leg. You're gonna need some help
and if you've got a back there that you can
depend on. I look, I thought they would have been
(28:10):
one of the teams that would have taken a shot
at Jeremiah Love in the draft with a with a
top ten pick and go running back in the draft.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
But the fact that they've.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Made this move and we've seen Andy Reid offenses in
Philly when he's got a back that can catch the
ball out of the backfield, that's a Love screen a
big time. And so I look at that and I go,
that's where a guy like Kenneth Walker can step in
and can be of help at a position of need
that they've needed for quite a while. And then they
(28:43):
look at it and they go on defense. It's not
ideal that we lost Trent McDuffie, but you know, we've
got to make They did the same thing with Legerius
Snead a couple of years ago, and I think that's
probably where they try and get better in the draft,
or who knows, maybe you know, we'll get a Twoy
tampering update at some point on the show, and the
Chiefs are going to attack the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
You know, I think we built Patrick Mahomes up to
be this larger than life figure because he's accomplished so
much that would be deserving of the things that are
allotted his way, the reverence towards him, the respect factor.
He's built up a lot of great will, not just
good will, but great will. And so we talk about
(29:25):
Patrick Mahomes as if he's this invincible figure. I think
the first thing you got to take a look at
is one, he did go down to a serious leg injury.
That's one for two. This offense hasn't been what it's
needed to be. And need I say, I mean, I
mean he's thrown for some good yards during the course
of the season, having a five thousand yard season not
(29:49):
too long ago, what twenty twenty two, But when ericb
Enemy left and I'm not making this about Ericbenemy, but
I'm saying in that moment in time, when Airbi Enemy
left the team, that offense has seemed to not be
the same. Since that departure took place, whatever took whatever
happened in that moment of time, the offense hasn't seemed
(30:13):
to get back on track. I mean, and obviously you
had the departure of you had the departure of the
Cheetah and Tyreek Hill. I know what you're doing. I
just again, I don't. I don't. And it's interesting we're
gonna bring I believe we're gonna bring TJ on today.
I asked the fellas on I asked them on on
up on game on Saturdays by the way, nine am
(30:36):
West West Coast Town. I asked the fellas on Saturday
because I didn't want to feel like I'm going crazy here,
because at times last week I did, is this is
this the end of the road? Like, how should we
be looking at this Kansas City Chiefs team right now?
Is the window closing?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Well? You were you were I think you were trying
to say, and I don't want to put words in
your mouth because I would never want to do that,
but I think you were trying to say that the
Chiefs should fire Andy Reid and make Eric be enemy
the head coach. That's exactly what I'm not saying. Let's
just run that.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
That's exactly we certainly would get. We would go viral.
Let's fire that off. I'm not trying to I'm not
trying to go do shock shock value to get to us. Listen,
just see how long we can keep a straight face
for what I am saying that sometimes we may lose
track of the fact that Patrick Mahomes is a person. Yeah,
(31:36):
he's not an alien, He's not this mythical figure.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's also, if we're gonna be honest, man, like you
are correct. The offense is not looked like this high
powered you know, Houston Euler's running shoot from beg for years,
where you could bring in Cody Carlson and he throw
for five thousand yards, Like you're not that that, we're
not talking about that.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
The defense has been the more consistent. And that's the thing,
Like the conversations have always been about, well, as long
as you got Patrick Mahomes, well, as long as you
got Patrick Mahomes, and the biggest moments of late of
recent like, oh well they made it to the Super Bowl.
Their defenses of through the years, the defense through the
(32:22):
years has come up so big in the most pivotal
moments and the most critical moments of their seasons. It
has been the defense that has delivered. And so that's
why I led off with back to the original point.
Bringing in Kenneth Walker is a great move for them
because I believe he has a hard nosed, lunch pale
(32:45):
type of guy. He's a normal type of guy. No
diva connected to him in any type of way. He's
a workhorse. That's great for what they're trying to do.
If they're going to try to bang the ball, run
the ball, established to run and and be able to
have that set up the pass with whatever their quarterback
situation is going to be, that's that's that's a good
(33:07):
move for them. But again we mentioned Chris Jones getting aged.
He's aging, carloftus dope dope player makes plays. Can this
defense return to form? And actually, I don't even want
to say bail out. They have won games for them,
(33:31):
they have one championships for this team. Is this defense
this year good enough to lead the way? And that's
going to be the biggest question that has to be answered.
I if the offense comes back and they're able to
be good, I would be surprised, I really would. It's
going to be on the defense to make sure that
they carry this team through the course of this upcoming season.
(33:55):
And is this a defense that can do it. I'm
a big believer in Spags. Spagnola is a is a
great coach in terms of being able to game plan
and find the weaknesses in an offense, overload the line,
bring blitzes from different positions in different places on the
field where you thought they were in coverage, but they
(34:15):
end up coming in on a blitz. He overloads. He
does a really, really great job, but can he bring
that to the table this year and probably, in my estimation,
one of the most pivotal years for this Kansas City franchise.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
You're just looking for improvements from year in and year out.
I think that's every team's goal, or at least publicly
that's what they say their goal is. And so if
you're the Chiefs and you're coming off a six win
season last year, you just need to find five wins
on the schedule because you already have two with the Raiders.
So if you just find five other on the schedule,
(34:52):
they wash them mouth. Everything's going to be all right
because you do have that bye week that resides, you know,
right across the street from Mandalay bayres that so it's
not you know. We'll keep you posted. And again this
is the Twoy Tracker, the legal tampering Windows Open tongue
(35:12):
in Tooey is here to give us the updates throughout
the course of this show. It is LaVar Arrington. Amazing job, Hey,
LaVar Arrington. Jonas Knox in for Colin. This is the
Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, and more good news
for one team in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
We've got it for you right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noon Eastern non a em Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It's a Herd on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin. Coming up top of next hour,
we'll call it a little over fifteen minutes from now,
we're going to tell you how apparently one team is
really trying hard to make you forget about a decision
they made last off season in the NFL. That'll be
yours here again a little over fifteen minutes from now.
(35:57):
Before we get to the Herdline news, we want to
let you know that if you've missed any of today's
show you want to catch the podcast, just search two
Pros where ever get your podcast. Right after the show,
Today's pot will be posted. Be sure to follow it
rated five stars. You can even provide a review. Again,
just search two Pros wherever gets your podcast. You'll find
today's full show and the best of version posted Right
after we get off the air and before we get
(36:17):
to the Herdline news. We've got more from the tongue
in Tooey transaction wire. The legal tampering window is open.
Great tooy. What's the latest.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Breaking news from Fox Sports? All Right, this just came down.
We told you last hour or earlier this hour that
Alec Pierce was resigning an Indy's I guess what happened.
Now they're trading Michael Pittman to the Steelers. Steelers sounds
like a late round pick swim.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I'm sitting there looking at a picture of the carly
Ers right here, carly Ers, Gordon, and I see her notes.
Well they're fine.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What are you talking about? Well, okay, uh yeah. So
I'm glad that Mike is going to the Steelers. That
is a tremendous addition to the team.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
They trying to are they trying to appease and Aaron
Rodgers return here giving him another weapon potentially.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
It feels like it does feel like that would be
a nice duo. I just couldn't understand why they let
Pickings go. You bring in DK. If you have DK
and Pickings, if they could coexist, that's nice. That's a
great duo. It could be a best hand them developed
in in the league. Instead you, well, I don't know
(37:43):
that Pittman Jr. Has an ego in this scenario, no particular, no, No,
I know what you're saying. But what I'm saying is
is can they co exist? Because one ego is more
than enough. When one ego gets in the way, it
still can have an impact on ego list type of guys.
So I don't know. It seems like a good signing,
though it could be a signal to Aaron Rodgers to
(38:04):
come on back and throw to these two guys.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
So when you when we talked about the Alex Peers signing,
there was a graphic that was posted on X from
the nfl X account. Uh, you know, col twide receiver
Aaliy Pierce agrees to term on an extension with the
with the Indianapolis Colts. Michael Pittman Junior responds and goes
deserved congrats ap and then fifteen minutes later gets traded
(38:29):
to the Steelers. So it's a yeah already, he probably
already knew it. Cold hearted world out here.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Come on popping on Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
We got quarterback news, We got quarterback news.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Pack.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
US free agent quarterback Malik Willis has agreed to a
deal or will agree to a deal today with the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
May makes sense. The Miami connection makes sense. The Miami connection,
Liberty and you yeah, I mean you blew out to
a like you now can ask answer the question why
Tua was blown out and they didn't wait? So yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So the the blueing right on that. And also, you
know Jeff Haffley was in Miami. Is it John Eric
Sullivan who's the GM for the for the Miami Dolphins.
I believe it's John Eric Sullivan if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
it's I mean, you know I've said it before. It's
(39:26):
it's said like that's a serial killer name. I don't
care what anybody says. It just it sounds like something
you would see on a Netflix documentary. But he's now
the GM of the Miami Dolphins. So the connection there,
malks in Miami, Jeff Hafley was in was Malik Willis
was in Green Bay? Jeff Haffley was there, Sullivan was there,
Like the connection, Like, I get it. I just.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Though for Malik Willis, is that really another thing? It's
a big question mark. I mean, but it's the perfect
it's the perfect market for a Malik Willis to go
somewhere and if he it does great, it works out great.
If it doesn't work out at all, it's like, why'd
you bring the leak Willis here? He does keep moving forward.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
And I also wonder what's the structure of the contract,
because we've seen this before. Teddy Bridgewater, you know, signed
a three year deal with Carolina. It turned out it
was a one year. They got out of it after
the first Yeah, clindit to Ian Rappaport. It will be
a three year, sixty seven and a half million dollar deal,
forty five million guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, And I wonder that's manageable.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
That's a manageable that's not a blockbuster contract whatsoever. See
if six starts in his career, I think Malik Wilson's
got six starts in his career, it's got to be
under ten.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah. Yeah, there's just a lot of question marks going
into this, and I know it's been made out for
him to be a very very high profile six starts
to potential put potential acquisition for this offseason. But we
made the conversation point again, I'll continue to give Pete
Prisco a lot of credit. This has not been a
(40:58):
very what you will be consider during a super high
profile free agencies market, So trades were going to have
to come. And now we're seeing in this this legal
tampering period that the trades are flowing, which means that
there was probably illegal tampering going on because of how
quickly these trades are are firing up. Oh I mean,
(41:19):
I'm just saying, you didn't just call me today when
when when the illegal tampering period just went into effect,
You just called me today and said, let's get a
trade done.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You got to assume that they were planning the breaking
up and you're engaged for eight hours later. Oh god,
just you know, in that span of time, I found
the one.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I don't even understand how you call it legal tampering,
Like just say you can talk like why is it
legal tampering? That just seems like a hockey more.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, it is so Blik willis the quarterbacks of the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
You know, is that the only move at the quarterback's
position that doesn't scream starter that contract and screams started.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I was kind of hoping for Quinny or it's just
getting out there slinging it around a little bit and
see what we got.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
You know, you're not that far out in the water
with that. Yeah, I mean you think that's a You're
giving him forty five million guaranteed to not start. That's
a lot of money, but the market that's well below
market value of a of a French.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Maybe compete, right, Yeah, geting is to compete, But I
don't think that's back up money.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I mean it is the Dolphins. We've seen their track record.
Maybe they're giving him this contract so they can to
you know, cut him and then swallow more money for
the next year. Man, I'm just saying anything's on the
table there in South Beach. I think you could get
out of the way of it with that contract. Talking
about Willis, I know, just an opinion.
Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to
catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and
noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find
your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com,
or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app
by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio anyway we go.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
On a Monday, it is The Herd on Fox Sports Radio.
No colin, It is LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox in
for the crew here. We're going to take you all
the way up until three o'clock Eastern time, noon Pacific.
You can listen to this show as always on the
iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates
all across the country live during that three hour duration.
(00:53):
If you're listening on a podcast, we appreciate you doing so.
You can hear LeVar and I weekday morning, six am
Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific on a show called Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe alongside Brady Quinn. But
it is Styx and I a little bit of black
and drack on this Monday morning for some free agency
frenzy and legal tampering.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah you look, I'll still never understand. Well I'm overweight,
but thank you, No, I feel relieved. I feel relieved weight.
Everybody out there listening, you might not have known you
were rooting for me, but thank you for pulling for
me and rooting for me. I had a nice cup
of coffee on my twenty first anniversary with Big Trish,
(01:40):
and it was a great coffee. It's a very very
very nice gourmet coffee. Gave it some time to stay
at home, you know, had enough time to drink it
and do what you know coffee does to you for
you in the morning. But nothing really happened, you know.
I just had it, enjoyed, had nice hug. See when
(02:00):
I get back, got into the car, got to the
gas station, got the gas, got up out of the
gas station, was heading up onto the ramp to get
onto the traffic ridden highway to get me here. And
let's just say, while there was a ton of gridlock
and traffic on the highway, that gridlock in that traffic
(02:23):
opened up in my belly. Oh yeah, and I had
to go forty five fifty minutes of mind control to
make it here this morning and actually be able to
deliver the kids to the pool avoid of any accidents
(02:43):
or prematurely dropping them off. You know, you ever see
somebody like jump off of a roof or something like
being silly trying to get to the pool and they
don't make it to the pool. That's what I was
trying to avoid this morning. Yeah, spend some that have
tried it off this parking structure before going on. I
could have been on.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That list today. It was very close. But I did
make it everyone, So we're going to have a great show.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So here we go, all.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Right, Well, I guess that is the perfect transition. It
is a great transition. I mean, you know, from one
toilet to another, it is perfect. Two A tug of
my law and the Miami Dolphins are no more. The
Miami Dolphins have officially parted ways by releasing to a.
It is a ninety nine million dollars dead cap hit,
(03:31):
which is a record NFL record, and apparently they're gonna
split it over the next two years because they're going
to make him a post June one designation. But he's
going to make fifty four million dollars from the Dolphins
and that'll be that for the two A tugay Law
experience with the Miami Dolphins. Who I know a lot
(03:51):
of people are are taking the shots or the victory
laps now because they look at it and they go, oh, well,
you know, clearly he was the third best quarterback in
that class when you consider he was next to Joe Burrow,
and he was next to Justin Herbert and all that,
and Miami made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I get all that.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Look, they tried, they wanted Joe Burrow, they didn't get him,
and then they chose to over Justin Herbert. Clearly not
the right choice, not the right decision. But I do
think it also bears pointing out the concussions really changed everything,
completely changed everything for the trajectory of Tua's career. And
so because of that and other things, now Tua finds
(04:30):
himself away from Miami, gone from the Dolphins, and making
fifty four million dollars this next year.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Victory laps. I mean, if people want to take victory laps,
that's not a that wasn't a hard race to run
and win. I mean, I think a lot of people
felt as though, because of the cat situation, that the
Miami Dolphins were almost forced to try to figure out
what to do with Tua for another season at least,
bless you, and at the end of the the road
(05:01):
in this scenario, I think you have to take a
good look at it and say, man, like, this is
a record breaking record setting cap hit dig cap hit
loss in the league. And guess who set the record
not too long ago. You got it, You got it.
You know who said it? Russell Will we set that record?
(05:25):
So interestingly enough, coincidentally enough, Russell Wilson has not been
the same quarterback. Is there any comparisons here? Let's see,
you got an undersized quarterback, didn't have a legitimate running
attack to help him in the passing game. Passing game
kind of took a dip and suffered. Sounds a little
(05:47):
comparable in comparison. Jonas and I would say my biggest
question here is if I'm to a tongue of a
loa and I get to make fifty four million guaranteed,
I think, and that's before us structuring, right. I think
it might be more. It could be more. I'm not certain.
(06:07):
I wish we had Q to be able to discuss
the you know, the details of the contracts. But with
that being said, I'm just curious as to what do
you do? Isn't that the biggest question if you're too
a what do you do if you make this amount
of money and you got it as a parting gift?
(06:32):
Take care of your head, take care of your family.
I'm not one to tell you what to do, but
if I'm giving you advice on what I think would
be the best thing for you to do. Your game
did take a change for the dramatics of not being
as good once you were making sure you were limiting
the amount of times you were hit.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
The reports are that the Falcons are going to pursue
to A and the reason it would make sense for
Atlanta is because you've got Michael Pennix junior. You got
another lefty in two that you could bring in. Kevin
Stefanski's now the head coach there. He's done things with
quarterbacks before and and operated and done a really good
(07:17):
job with quarterbacks, and maybe people thought he couldn't get
a lot out of you know, case in point Joe
Flacco when he did it and brought him in any
One Comeback Player of the Year, which still, by the way,
one of the most amazing things and feats I've ever
seen in my life. Joe Flacco won Comeback Player of
the Year for a partial season and he beat out
a guy who almost died on the field. That's one
of the one of the great achievements in the history
(07:38):
of the NFL. So Kevin Stefanski, there's some thought that
he would bring into it. And the reason also financially
why it makes sense, similar to Kyler, is that because
of the money that they're making from their former team,
they can sign a low rate deal for a little
over a million dollars because they're still going to get
(08:00):
their full fifty plus million from there from from his
previous team. So if you're Atlanta and you want to
create some competition, if you're not sold on Michael Pennix
junior and you want to bring in another lefty to
the fold, Toua to Atlanta would make some sense. And
you know, you mentioned you know, if you're Tua, take
care of your head, take care of your health. Look,
(08:21):
we spent a long time talking about you know, the Samoans, the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Tongans, the Hawaiians. They don't operate that way, Brad. It's
not that's not the way they operate. It's a warrior
mentality he's going to play.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And I think that that, you know, in part, led
to look he's not a big guy, so yeah, he should,
you know, slide early, do this, But that's not That's
just not the way he That's not the way he.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I think he did avoid contact this past season, and
I think it did impact the way that his results were.
You know, within the games he.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Didn't I take hits and you didn't want to see
him take any hits in the season's past where you
saw those hits take place and he was on the
ground and his fingers was doing the crypt crip signs
and throwing up you know, gang signs out there on
the field like that, ain't it?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's not it? And sure I would assume you're right
in the fact that he will look at this and
want to continue to play. But if I'm a team
in the NFL, if I'm the Atlanta Falcons, the first
thing I'm looking at is his head injuries report. If
I'm any team in the NFL, I'm looking at the
(09:38):
head injury reports, and I just I just don't feel
compelled to take that chance. I think I could take
that chance with a lot of other quarterbacks. And while
there may be the opportunity or the potential of what
you could get out of to a coming to your team,
(09:58):
or even a safety considering to be maybe a safety
net for someone like a Michael Pennix who's also injury prone.
I think that I mentioned Russell Wilson earlier, and I
mentioned him not because of the injury. I just mentioned
that because of the fall off. Why take a chance
(10:20):
on a player that you already saw the falloff taking
place in Miami. I know you say coaches feel like
they can save these guys and my system can develop them.
And we have seen guys that didn't have great starts
to their careers actually come back to life in a
different setting. If that happens, it's great. But I think
the one determining factor here with two of that make
(10:42):
gives me tremendous pause, is his head. Injuries Like this
isn't about if you can clean up and fix him
playing the game, get better results from him as a quarterback.
He's been a good quarterback. He's been a good quarterback,
so it's not like he hasn't had success as a
quarter That's what led to him having this large contract
(11:03):
to begin with. The biggest concern and the biggest issue
and the reason why sometimes you got to save somebody
from themselves to it. Probably isn't going to go into
retirement after this, but he probably should. And if I'm
a team and I'm looking at this, if I'm looking
at a guy that because of head injuries, probably should
(11:25):
make the decision to walk away, He's got a great
payday to go, you know, live the rest of his
life and be comfortable with him and his family. And
you could do all the tongue in teas all you want,
wherever you want, playing some beach catch, play some catch
with your kids, with your family. You don't need to
do it in the NFL. I'm just saying, for me,
(11:47):
hard line stance. With that many head injuries and the
way it looked playing out on national television for all
to see over and over and over again multiple times,
maybe the best, the best decision to make is to
move on with your life. He did take a shot
this year.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I forget who it was, but I think it was
on a It might have been a Thursday night game.
I forget, Like what there was a game I watched
where he did take a shot like it was a
legitimate shot. To the head and he got right back up.
So I do think there's been some time since. But
what was your thought when you saw it?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
A hit? Oh? God? Like somebody call him medic? Okay, yeah,
Like so even if he got right back up, do
you not think that there was an impact on him
and on his hit, even though he was able to
get right back up.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It's the Alex Smith stuff. When Alex Smith came back
from that gruesome leg injury he suffered. I remember the
first game back, he was playing against the Rams, and
I was watching with my head kind of turned when
he got tackled the first time. It was Aaron Donald
and I just thought to myself, Man, bring him down
and off his feet, like, don't let his leg get planted.
(12:56):
Don't let So there's always that that sort of cost.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
That's a leg and so like you just can move
through life, like I know, because my pop, you can
move through life with a limb not being what it
needs to be. Like you can limp around, you can
you know, you could use the other hand, but your
head look and I get so much different. It's a
much bigger.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I also think that calls into question, you know, if
all of that stuff was on the table. Why did
the Dolphins give him the deal they gave him after
all that stuff was on the table.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
It's a very good.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And I think I think the reason they did it
is because they were sort of as in this in
between where he didn't show flashes of being the greatest
quarterback in the league. You're not going to find the
Mahomes or a Josh Allen in a Tua. But he
did play, and you mentioned this, he did play good football.
It's not like there was a thought that, you know,
the Brian Flores experiment happened, and Brian Flores, for anybody
(14:01):
that wants to, you know, kiss kiss his ass and
talk about all wow, he was right about Tua. No,
he butchered that from the get go, all right, like
he was pulling a rookie quarterback out of games early
so that Ryan Fitzpatrick could finish it. Like that doesn't
make any sense whatsoever. Go through the growing pains. We
talked about this for Fernanda Mendoza, and then all of
(14:22):
a sudden, Mike McDaniel gets there and he finds something
with Tua. He starts to play at a high level.
Tua was good. The concussions derailed everything. Like he played
at a high level. He played really good football. The
concussions derailed that. Stuff got in the way. And then
this past year happened, and you knew that his time
(14:45):
was limited in Miami based on the fact that he
started calling out teammates.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
This time was limited.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He started, he started total, he started calling out teammates.
There was some question and then he had to come
back after all that incidental.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It seemed good natured, good hearted, but the way it
was perceived after you could hear it, that was one
of those ones. Once he heard it, he probably wishes
he could have it back.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And I just you know what happened. And then afterwards
they're like, what would you think about a change of scenery?
He goes, you know, that's probably a good idea, Like
after the seat he just I think he just that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Change of scenery should be his crib. I mean, that's
that's changing scenery should be the vacating from the NFL altogether.
I also think coach coach.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I also think that he was in an impossible situation
because he was always going to be compared to Joe
Burrow and Justin Herbert, like that's that is.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Always First of all, he's made it to the playoffs,
just like those guys. Joe Burrow's made it to a
to a super Bowl. I get that, But I don't
know what Joe Burrow is going to be moving forward.
He was like in this weird space this past season
and justin Herbert all ways when he gets to the
playoffs right yet no, no, yeah, she thought he was
(16:04):
winning something. Hey, I said twenty one years today, Broy,
Jessica Alba, and Madison Beer got news for you, man,
I got news for you. Business as a quarterback is good.
Business is real good at quarterback. I'm just saying, man, hey,
(16:24):
if he's always going to be compared to them, get
on my level. Bro, Like he got his money and
and he's still seemingly I don't know what what Toua's
You know, vitals are on his activation and operation of
brain brain function. But if you still, like, bro, like
(16:46):
save your brain.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Man, seriously, And I'm not trying to like be on
no joking type matter on this.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
This is a very serious thing. It's funny because we
make it a point to focus in At least I've
made it a point to focus in on the amount
of cushions and head injuries he's had. But it happens
to probably other players more, other positions, more than the
quarterback's position. I just think that there's such a focal
point on the position that when something like that happens,
(17:14):
it hits a little different. You know, like like when
you're watching a movie or a cartoon or TV show
and then the TV show like the main character is
just busting off on people. Bow shot that person, that
bow shot that person, Like you can watch them take
down at least ten to fifteen people, but let somebody
cut them or let somebody like shoot them and they
(17:35):
gotta go. It's like, Oh, it hits you different. You're
like dese sensitized to actually looking at the impact on others.
I always say, you want to like have a cool show,
take one of the shows of where the hero is
busting off on everybody to get to the mission, and
then the objective of the TV show and do a
(17:58):
story on one of them people that he shot down.
He mowed down on his way to help and save
somebody's life. Anyway, the point I'm making is is that
we look at Tua and the the amount of importance
you place on his mental and head health is probably
(18:18):
much higher because of the amount of attention and time
that's been put on covering it and showing it, in it,
showing it. It's almost like it's sensationalized to sit there
and show the aftermath and the effects of when he's
gotten hit and has sustained these concussions.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well, you know, we uh from uh from toua to
tuy for some breaking news.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
You know it's you know what time it is, right,
it's it's.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Legal first big signing, guys. Alec Pierce from the Colts
is heading back to Indy four years, one hundred fourteen
million dollar deal. Corni schefter, rapaport Ian, rapaport A lot
of people thought he could be going to New England
or potentially Washington, Vegas, Tennessee. That's interesting. You know what,
(19:12):
let's Chris had a name. Let's not bury the lead here.
That's a win for us too.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah we did. Oh man, everyone out there wondering what
uh Jonas Knox is talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Alec Pierce happens to be white? That through what do
you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, clean cut, all American looking do from you know,
up top to he told you we could do it.
Played at Cincinnati. He's a beer cat, you know. Good
for him, man. And by the way, good player, good size,
good good, very good. Yeah. So uh yeah, going back
to Indy. There you go.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
One of the prizes of the off season. Would love
me some legal tam If we're gonna throw them the ball,
is it going to be Daniel Jones? You gotta figure
that one out.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I don't know. Two was campaigning for Jack Trudeau earlier
for some reason. I don't know what that was about.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He's got some left in an arm. I think, I
mean the cults. There are a lot of quarterbacks over
the past several years, so who knows.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
So so Ersa is making big moves and and uh,
Indy to make sure she's building that uh damn right
up the right way. Damn right. She's got enough information
in her notes that she looked at it and she
was in the office and said, you know what, Alec Pierce,
he fits the mole list, he fits the criteria. Somebody
that we need to keep here and give a nice contract.
(20:40):
Let's give him that.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's elite. No taking there it is. You have to
see me on that sideline taking them notes. By the way,
be sure be sure to check out our brand new
YouTube channel for the show. Just searched two pros FSR
on YouTube. Begin that's two pross. Be sure to hit
the subscribe button. Don't stop there, hit the thumbs up
icon and comment away. Let us know who the show
you agree with, who you think is wrong. But check
(21:02):
out our new channel on YouTube again. Just search two
pros FSR and subscribe. LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox in for
The Herd today and this went way better than anybody expected.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Over the weekend, we'll tell you what it is next.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noone Easter not a Empacific.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Steve Gott's here.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I have a podcast Empire. It continues to grow and
I have brought it here to iHeart. I'm also doing
a live radio show from three to five pm Eastern
because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house.
It's called Stegots and Company Live, which is available in
podcast form right when the show finishes. Every single day,
(21:45):
some of the biggest names in sports.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
A lot of phone calls. I love you guy, your show.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's one of my favorites.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
A lot of interact shit guys, not taking themselves too seriously.
Those are just some of the things that you could
expect from Stu Gotts and Company, Ends and Company Live.
So listen to ste Gods and Company Live and our
original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review ste Gotson Company
and God Bless Football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. You
(22:13):
do it today and you can check all of those
out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you
get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's a heard on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Jonas
Knox in for Colin. We are going to uh maybe
get into a little bit here about something that went
way better than anybody expected in the world of sports
over the weekend. But as we mentioned, it is the
legal tampering period. The window is opened in the NFL,
(22:46):
and it's time for some more breaking news from Towey,
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
This is a big one, guys. Kenneth Walker is joining
the Kansas City Chiefs. All right, big one, big one.
This kind of seemed inevitable after the Trump McDuffie trade, right,
like they were gonna going after a big fish. When's
the last time they had a dependable running back that
you could look at and go, that's the guy.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I mean Priest Holmes, dang, yeah, Larry Johnson came after
Priest home. What I mean, we all well, hold on,
come on, Larry Johnson was a beast.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Now they had what uh Charles, I like Pacheco. Yeah,
but just get hurt. It gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And look, you had Clyde Edwards, who was Hunt.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
There was a two two hitted monster. Hunt knew who
was that man? There there was two backs. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
They've had some pretty good backs though, I just I
look at but they haven't had a guy that you
look at guard. That's the bellcap back right, like, that's
the lead Denry and and you look at what Kenneth
Walker did late in the season. Zach Charbona goes down
and he was massive for them, and I was surprised
(24:14):
they didn't they didn't put the franchise tag on him.
I was surprised they let him walk. But I think
that's also an indication that they feel like, look, it's
a tough, tough call, tough decision. Appreciate everything he did.
You know, he's got to walk at the height of
his career, just won Super Bowl MVP, but we're just
going to go take our chances and try and get
cheaper at the running back position, trying to get cheaper.
(24:36):
We'll go get cheap like that's that's the way it
looks like. And we've talked about this before. To think
where the running back position was years ago, when it
next to quarterback was the face of the league, and
to where it is now, to where a guy just
won Super Bowl MVP and they're like see you, buddy,
(24:57):
like we'll see you, thank you. We're not even giving
a give you the tag, go have fun. Legal tampering
window opens. And now Patrick Mahomes has got some help
in the backfield and it's going to be Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Listen, it is some help. It certainly does help. Kenneth
Walker is a fine football player and showed how fond
of a player he was by being the best player
in this year's Super Bowl. That was going to be
a defensive heavy game. You were going to need your
(25:32):
running game to be a part of it, and Seattle's
run game delivered, and Kenneth Walker delivered. I guess I
would ask the question, I guess if it improves your team,
then there's nothing wrong with it. But I don't feel
(25:52):
as though bringing Kenneth Walker in alleviates the pressure that
you have mounting in terms of of letting McDuffie go
on the defense side of the ball. I'm curious to
see what they do to shore up their defense to
make sure that their defense is what it needs to
(26:14):
be moving forward, and curious as to what do you
do at the quarterback's position. Obviously you're going to try
to figure out how to run the ball or get
better at running the ball if you're cac because you
don't know what the future holds for Patrick Mahomes right
now and upcoming upcoming weeks and months and days of
(26:40):
his career. So until you can get him back healthy,
fully in the mix and ready to go and confident
in that leg and what he does, I would assume
that you have to one have a quarterback that can
stand in there and help you be competitive until he
(27:00):
gets back. But two, you want to have a running
game that alleviates the stress and the pressure on on
the guy that you're putting in there, and to that point,
to do it for Patrick Mahomes why he gets back
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
The Chiefs haven't had a thousand year old rushers since
twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I just looked it up. I was like, man, y'all
are right, it's just not been Kareem Hunt is probably
the closest they got to, like a guy that was
kind of pushing to be the bail Kyle back for them.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And you know, clearly they've had plenty of success, so
it's not like, well, that's going to really hold him back.
You know, the super Bowls, the dynasty, all that stuff.
But I do think this is also if you've got
a quarterback like Mahomes who's coming back from the injury
and they're optimistic that he's going to be there and
ready to go, you know, to start the year and all,
that's fine, but worst case scenario, he's not there. They
(27:49):
got to start off the season putting him on the
pup list. Okay, or he comes back he is ready
for the start of the season, but it takes him
some time to get used to the new normal, which
is a surgically repaired leg. You're gonna need some help
and if you've got a back there that you can
depend on. I look, I thought they would have been
(28:10):
one of the teams that would have taken a shot
at Jeremiah Love in the draft with a with a
top ten pick and go running back in the draft.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
But the fact that they've.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Made this move and we've seen Andy Reid offenses in
Philly when he's got a back that can catch the
ball out of the backfield, that's a Love screen a
big time. And so I look at that and I go,
that's where a guy like Kenneth Walker can step in
and can be of help at a position of need
that they've needed for quite a while. And then they
(28:43):
look at it and they go on defense. It's not
ideal that we lost Trent McDuffie, but you know, we've
got to make They did the same thing with Legerius
Snead a couple of years ago, and I think that's
probably where they try and get better in the draft,
or who knows, maybe you know, we'll get a Twoy
tampering update at some point on the show, and the
Chiefs are going to attack the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
You know, I think we built Patrick Mahomes up to
be this larger than life figure because he's accomplished so
much that would be deserving of the things that are
allotted his way, the reverence towards him, the respect factor.
He's built up a lot of great will, not just
good will, but great will. And so we talk about
(29:25):
Patrick Mahomes as if he's this invincible figure. I think
the first thing you got to take a look at
is one, he did go down to a serious leg injury.
That's one for two. This offense hasn't been what it's
needed to be. And need I say, I mean, I
mean he's thrown for some good yards during the course
of the season, having a five thousand yard season not
(29:49):
too long ago, what twenty twenty two, But when ericb
Enemy left and I'm not making this about Ericbenemy, but
I'm saying in that moment in time, when Airbi Enemy
left the team, that offense has seemed to not be
the same. Since that departure took place, whatever took whatever
happened in that moment of time, the offense hasn't seemed
(30:13):
to get back on track. I mean, and obviously you
had the departure of you had the departure of the
Cheetah and Tyreek Hill. I know what you're doing. I
just again, I don't. I don't. And it's interesting we're
gonna bring I believe we're gonna bring TJ on today.
I asked the fellas on I asked them on on
up on game on Saturdays by the way, nine am
(30:36):
West West Coast Town. I asked the fellas on Saturday
because I didn't want to feel like I'm going crazy here,
because at times last week I did, is this is
this the end of the road? Like, how should we
be looking at this Kansas City Chiefs team right now?
Is the window closing?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Well? You were you were I think you were trying
to say, and I don't want to put words in
your mouth because I would never want to do that,
but I think you were trying to say that the
Chiefs should fire Andy Reid and make Eric be enemy
the head coach. That's exactly what I'm not saying. Let's
just run that.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
That's exactly we certainly would get. We would go viral.
Let's fire that off. I'm not trying to I'm not
trying to go do shock shock value to get to us. Listen,
just see how long we can keep a straight face
for what I am saying that sometimes we may lose
track of the fact that Patrick Mahomes is a person. Yeah,
(31:36):
he's not an alien, He's not this mythical figure.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's also, if we're gonna be honest, man, like you
are correct. The offense is not looked like this high
powered you know, Houston Euler's running shoot from beg for years,
where you could bring in Cody Carlson and he throw
for five thousand yards, Like you're not that that, we're
not talking about that.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
The defense has been the more consistent. And that's the thing,
Like the conversations have always been about, well, as long
as you got Patrick Mahomes, well, as long as you
got Patrick Mahomes, and the biggest moments of late of
recent like, oh well they made it to the Super Bowl.
Their defenses of through the years, the defense through the
(32:22):
years has come up so big in the most pivotal
moments and the most critical moments of their seasons. It
has been the defense that has delivered. And so that's
why I led off with back to the original point.
Bringing in Kenneth Walker is a great move for them
because I believe he has a hard nosed, lunch pale
(32:45):
type of guy. He's a normal type of guy. No
diva connected to him in any type of way. He's
a workhorse. That's great for what they're trying to do.
If they're going to try to bang the ball, run
the ball, established to run and and be able to
have that set up the pass with whatever their quarterback
situation is going to be, that's that's that's a good
(33:07):
move for them. But again we mentioned Chris Jones getting aged.
He's aging, carloftus dope dope player makes plays. Can this
defense return to form? And actually, I don't even want
to say bail out. They have won games for them,
(33:31):
they have one championships for this team. Is this defense
this year good enough to lead the way? And that's
going to be the biggest question that has to be answered.
I if the offense comes back and they're able to
be good, I would be surprised, I really would. It's
going to be on the defense to make sure that
they carry this team through the course of this upcoming season.
(33:55):
And is this a defense that can do it. I'm
a big believer in Spags. Spagnola is a is a
great coach in terms of being able to game plan
and find the weaknesses in an offense, overload the line,
bring blitzes from different positions in different places on the
field where you thought they were in coverage, but they
(34:15):
end up coming in on a blitz. He overloads. He
does a really, really great job, but can he bring
that to the table this year and probably, in my estimation,
one of the most pivotal years for this Kansas City franchise.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
You're just looking for improvements from year in and year out.
I think that's every team's goal, or at least publicly
that's what they say their goal is. And so if
you're the Chiefs and you're coming off a six win
season last year, you just need to find five wins
on the schedule because you already have two with the Raiders.
So if you just find five other on the schedule,
(34:52):
they wash them mouth. Everything's going to be all right
because you do have that bye week that resides, you know,
right across the street from Mandalay bayres that so it's
not you know. We'll keep you posted. And again this
is the Twoy Tracker, the legal tampering Windows Open tongue
(35:12):
in Tooey is here to give us the updates throughout
the course of this show. It is LaVar Arrington. Amazing job, Hey,
LaVar Arrington. Jonas Knox in for Colin. This is the
Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, and more good news
for one team in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
We've got it for you right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noon Eastern non a em Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It's a Herd on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin. Coming up top of next hour,
we'll call it a little over fifteen minutes from now,
we're going to tell you how apparently one team is
really trying hard to make you forget about a decision
they made last off season in the NFL. That'll be
yours here again a little over fifteen minutes from now.
(35:57):
Before we get to the Herdline news, we want to
let you know that if you've missed any of today's
show you want to catch the podcast, just search two
Pros where ever get your podcast. Right after the show,
Today's pot will be posted. Be sure to follow it
rated five stars. You can even provide a review. Again,
just search two Pros wherever gets your podcast. You'll find
today's full show and the best of version posted Right
after we get off the air and before we get
(36:17):
to the Herdline news. We've got more from the tongue
in Tooey transaction wire. The legal tampering window is open.
Great tooy. What's the latest.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Breaking news from Fox Sports? All Right, this just came down.
We told you last hour or earlier this hour that
Alec Pierce was resigning an Indy's I guess what happened.
Now they're trading Michael Pittman to the Steelers. Steelers sounds
like a late round pick swim.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I'm sitting there looking at a picture of the carly
Ers right here, carly Ers, Gordon, and I see her notes.
Well they're fine.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What are you talking about? Well, okay, uh yeah. So
I'm glad that Mike is going to the Steelers. That
is a tremendous addition to the team.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
They trying to are they trying to appease and Aaron
Rodgers return here giving him another weapon potentially.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
It feels like it does feel like that would be
a nice duo. I just couldn't understand why they let
Pickings go. You bring in DK. If you have DK
and Pickings, if they could coexist, that's nice. That's a
great duo. It could be a best hand them developed
in in the league. Instead you, well, I don't know
(37:43):
that Pittman Jr. Has an ego in this scenario, no particular, no, No,
I know what you're saying. But what I'm saying is
is can they co exist? Because one ego is more
than enough. When one ego gets in the way, it
still can have an impact on ego list type of guys.
So I don't know. It seems like a good signing,
though it could be a signal to Aaron Rodgers to
(38:04):
come on back and throw to these two guys.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
So when you when we talked about the Alex Peers signing,
there was a graphic that was posted on X from
the nfl X account. Uh, you know, col twide receiver
Aaliy Pierce agrees to term on an extension with the
with the Indianapolis Colts. Michael Pittman Junior responds and goes
deserved congrats ap and then fifteen minutes later gets traded
(38:29):
to the Steelers. So it's a yeah already, he probably
already knew it. Cold hearted world out here.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Come on popping on Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
We got quarterback news, We got quarterback news.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Pack.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
US free agent quarterback Malik Willis has agreed to a
deal or will agree to a deal today with the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
May makes sense. The Miami connection makes sense. The Miami connection,
Liberty and you yeah, I mean you blew out to
a like you now can ask answer the question why
Tua was blown out and they didn't wait? So yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So the the blueing right on that. And also, you
know Jeff Haffley was in Miami. Is it John Eric
Sullivan who's the GM for the for the Miami Dolphins.
I believe it's John Eric Sullivan if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
it's I mean, you know I've said it before. It's
(39:26):
it's said like that's a serial killer name. I don't
care what anybody says. It just it sounds like something
you would see on a Netflix documentary. But he's now
the GM of the Miami Dolphins. So the connection there,
malks in Miami, Jeff Hafley was in was Malik Willis
was in Green Bay? Jeff Haffley was there, Sullivan was there,
Like the connection, Like, I get it. I just.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Though for Malik Willis, is that really another thing? It's
a big question mark. I mean, but it's the perfect
it's the perfect market for a Malik Willis to go
somewhere and if he it does great, it works out great.
If it doesn't work out at all, it's like, why'd
you bring the leak Willis here? He does keep moving forward.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
And I also wonder what's the structure of the contract,
because we've seen this before. Teddy Bridgewater, you know, signed
a three year deal with Carolina. It turned out it
was a one year. They got out of it after
the first Yeah, clindit to Ian Rappaport. It will be
a three year, sixty seven and a half million dollar deal,
forty five million guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, And I wonder that's manageable.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
That's a manageable that's not a blockbuster contract whatsoever. See
if six starts in his career, I think Malik Wilson's
got six starts in his career, it's got to be
under ten.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah. Yeah, there's just a lot of question marks going
into this, and I know it's been made out for
him to be a very very high profile six starts
to potential put potential acquisition for this offseason. But we
made the conversation point again, I'll continue to give Pete
Prisco a lot of credit. This has not been a
(40:58):
very what you will be consider during a super high
profile free agencies market, So trades were going to have
to come. And now we're seeing in this this legal
tampering period that the trades are flowing, which means that
there was probably illegal tampering going on because of how
quickly these trades are are firing up. Oh I mean,
(41:19):
I'm just saying, you didn't just call me today when
when when the illegal tampering period just went into effect,
You just called me today and said, let's get a
trade done.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You got to assume that they were planning the breaking
up and you're engaged for eight hours later. Oh god,
just you know, in that span of time, I found
the one.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I don't even understand how you call it legal tampering,
Like just say you can talk like why is it
legal tampering? That just seems like a hockey more.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, it is so Blik willis the quarterbacks of the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
You know, is that the only move at the quarterback's
position that doesn't scream starter that contract and screams started.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I was kind of hoping for Quinny or it's just
getting out there slinging it around a little bit and
see what we got.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
You know, you're not that far out in the water
with that. Yeah, I mean you think that's a You're
giving him forty five million guaranteed to not start. That's
a lot of money, but the market that's well below
market value of a of a French.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Maybe compete, right, Yeah, geting is to compete, But I
don't think that's back up money.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I mean it is the Dolphins. We've seen their track record.
Maybe they're giving him this contract so they can to
you know, cut him and then swallow more money for
the next year. Man, I'm just saying anything's on the
table there in South Beach. I think you could get
out of the way of it with that contract. Talking
about Willis, I know, just an opinion.
Hosts And Creators
Colin Cowherd
Jason McIntyre
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Fudd Around And Find Out
UConn basketball star Azzi Fudd brings her championship swag to iHeart Women’s Sports with Fudd Around and Find Out, a weekly podcast that takes fans along for the ride as Azzi spends her final year of college trying to reclaim the National Championship and prepare to be a first round WNBA draft pick. Ever wonder what it’s like to be a world-class athlete in the public spotlight while still managing schoolwork, friendships and family time? It’s time to Fudd Around and Find Out!