Colin Cowherd talks about the Timberwolves hanging on for a game 1 win over the Spurs and how Anthony Edwards captured a win over Victor Wembanyama.
Thoughts on the Knicks destroying the Sixers in game 1.
He points out why he thinks the Cowboys are facing an uphill battle this season and why the Lions are in prime position for a big bounce back year in the NFC.
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Nick right one hour, Frank A. Sola on the nixt win.
The most disrespected franchise in the NBA has to be
the Minnesota Timberwolves in the packed Western Conference. They've gone
to back to back Western Conference Finals. They lead the
Spurs now with WENB one to zero. And we treat
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them like the Pelicans, and we said yesterday on the
show they actually are kind of built to beat San Antonio. Thick, big, experienced,
well coached. They'll get physical. They're a great fourth quarter team,
and they did it. They won Game one in San
Antonio and it was a classic t Wolves game. They've
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been an unbelievable fourth quarter team, but they just kind
of hung around. San Antonio had been red hot from
three point land. They took them out of their game
and then in the fourth quarter, Ant had eleven points.
Julius Randall, the guys are walking nineteen and nine, twelve
years in the NBA, like the t Wolves, not really
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respected Clever. Mike Conley hit a three. They're just a
perfect mix of youth and experience and trunky and physical
and long the best team in the NBA in the
fourth quarter. Now in the playoffs they're number one and
basically everything offensive rating, defensive rating, point differential and all
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that is is experience plus coaching and their general manager
Mike Conley, Tim Connolly, he's the one that built Denver
into a title team.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
He left Denver.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Have you noticed the Nuggets have overpaid for some players,
don't have the bench, The Nuggets aren't as good. He
goes to Minnesota, and like Denver, he has built a
roster that actually matches up with everybody in the NBA.
And we talked about this yesterday. When the playoffs arrive,
you gotta have a star who can rise above scheme.
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That's Ant that he can just put the ball in
his hands, make plays. Because you're playing the best coaches,
you're facing the best teams, you can't keep out scheming everybody.
And these were excellent rosters. When you watch the Western Conference,
it reminds me of the SEC five years ago. Over
the Big Ten. Now it's just really good. You get
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real clarity, you can tell who's good. I don't feel
that way in the East, but the t Wolves have
been just giant killers the last several years. They beat
KD and Booker in Phoenix. They beat Jamal Murray and
Jokic two different times. They beat Luca and Lebron, and
now they got their eyes set on Wemby and they're
a nightmare matchup. I was looking this morning. The starting
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lineup for the tee Wolves has it combined three hundred
playoff games, the Spurs thirty six. That is a major
problem in the fourth quarter because if you watched whim,
they took Wemby out of his game. They had him
off balance. He was zero for eight from three. They
took away. They have such length and excellent athleticism on
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the perimeter. San Antonio is eating everybody alive on three
point shooting, and they just negated. That's why the Spurs
could not pull away, and that if you're a San
Antonio fan, you do not want these games to be
close entering the fourth quarter. That's gonna be Minnesota's quarter.
They don't have the playoff experience, and if you take
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Wemby out, Minnesota is actually deeper and better and more physical.
So San Antonio, you got to put Minnesota away quickly.
And it's interesting. I mean, even on this show, I
mean I give the Celtics a certain level of respect,
and I give okay See respect, and I give Denver
respect that everybody gives Lebron respect.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Here are the Tea Wolves.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
In back to back Western Conference finals with there's an
argument outside of Oklahoma City, it's the deepest roster in
the NBA. I mean, they got young kids that weren't
even in the rotation now that are flourishing. Number one
fourth quarter team, number two in the regular season. That
was the difference last night. And with eleven points, although
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he did not think he played great down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'm disappointing myself. How can you be disappointed? We didn't
even expect to see you out here tonight? How important
was it for you? To be available for your guys
in game one.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
For me, man, seventy five percent of the game for
me is my mind. My mind got to be where
it needs to be in In the last two minutes
of the game, it wasn't. I gave up two offensive rebounds,
turned the ball over.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, all I know is this.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You got guys like Julius Randall, who's been bouncing around
the league, and he's the perfect timberwolf because he's overlooked.
And it could be nas Reed, and it could be
Jaden McDaniels, it can be ac and it can Rudy
Gobert has been getting crapped for years. It could be
Mike Conley. There's just so much experience and talent with Minnesota.
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And if these games are close, fourth quarter is the
tea wolves between coaching and experience. Okay, so it's I
said this about the Eastern Conference. I mean through various
times this year. I mean last year, out of the blue,
the Pacers fly through it. And this year you're like
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Detroit's a number one seed, They've got one score. I
can't really figure out the East. So I watched the
Knicks over their last four games, They've won by thirty nine,
fifty one, twenty nine and sixteen.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Are they great? I don't really think so. Are they?
Are they good? Absolutely? Are they very good? I don't know. Now.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The Sixers last night, off an emotional Game seven against Boston,
were completely flat. I mean, Jalen Brunson kind of did
whatever he wanted to do, scored thirty five points, twelve
for eighteen. He just did whatever he wanted to do.
I kind of felt like Nick Nurse was just he
knew his team was fatigued. He knew his team was
going to be flat, so he didn't give away a
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lot of secrets. He just kind of let it play out.
But I will give the New York Knicks credit for this.
So they fired TIBs because they thought they just weren't
good enough offensively. And you gotta give Mike Brown credit. Okay,
they're shooting sixty in their last three games. Mike Brown's
not a rigid guy. He is willing to experiment, and
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what they've done with Katkat now is like a point center.
He has doubled his assists, his distribution numbers from regular
season to postseason, and a lot of that's just good coaching,
but it's difficult. Remember in the Super Bowl, like, look,
was New England really a good team? We watched the
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Seahawks and the Rams play and you're like, those are
the two best teams in football. But New England got
to the Super Bowl because the easiest schedule in the
last thirty years, and Bo Nicks got hurt for Denver.
But if you looked at the Rams and the Seahawks,
they went ten to zero against the AFC and the
Thunder and the Spurs have gone forty nine and eleven
against the Eastern Conference. So I don't know what the
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hell to make of the East. Are the Knicks good?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think offensively. Now that Mike Brown is putting the
ball in the hands of Cat up top, I think
that's really smart. It's taken some of the heat off
Brunson to constantly be the playmaker and to make Cat
kind of a score and a distributor. Now you know
what they're going to try to do. They're going to
have himbiid, go after Cat, try to eliminate that, get
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him into foul trouble. And last night the Knicks Biggs.
They drew some early fouls. But I will say this,
the fatigued Sixers will play better in Game two. But
when you watch this with the Cat move, Nicks are
playing with confidence. It's a totally complimentary, flawed roster, but
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they play very well together. They've got a little bit
better bench, not a great one, but better than the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Home court advantage.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So you know, I can watch Minnesota in the Spurs
Oklahoma City and go those are really high end teams.
Maybe I haven't given given the Knicks enough credit. I
find the Eastern Conference. I mean, Detroit's a number one seed.
Is Cleveland good? The Pistons don't have a number two score.
Philadelphia we gave up on him. Are they good? I
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thought the Celtics were. But I'll say this, using Cat,
the way they're using him is effective, it's smart.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And here he was after the win.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
He's just kind of got a job as a team executing.
And you know, obviously we changed a little bit things
up and it's been very good for us. I just
love that I get to get my teammates involved and
I give it to the chance of quarterback, to the
offense and give them, you know, put them in positions
I feel they could succeed, and they've obliged, like I
said before, you know, they trust they're trusting me more
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with ball right now, and I just want to continue
to repay their trust with the right plays and making
the right decisions.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I mean a lot of people say it's the best
jump shooting big in basketball. He is a Remember when
Anthony Davis was with the Lakers, he was never really
comfortable outside great defensive player. Cat's not never really comfortable
on the deep perimeter. But Cat is and the fact
that like a Yokich he can distribute assist totals. It's
like a smart move. And when they got rid of Tibbs,
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I said, what are you doing? You finally got the
coach and Mike Brown's been like experimental, you know, he's
been taking some swings and it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Kind of works.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But I go back to I just don't know right, Like,
I'm not really sure because all year long we've been
looking at the East going Detroit's good, Wait till Boston
gets Tatum last year It's like India is Indiana good?
I love Halliburton, but are so I'm one of these
viewers of the East. I'm like, I will have Frank
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I Sola on here. I mean, there's things they do well.
But then I watch which, by the way, I don't
like putting playoff games on at the same time, but
I'm watching this Pursson in Minnesota and I'm like, Holy
my god, Minnesota's athletes and.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Length and size and ant and wow.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Then Wemby and I don't know, it's different to me,
Jay Mack, You've been on the Knicks all year. That's
your favorite team. They're on an absolute offensive heater. But
it did a lot of it did feel like Philadelphia
Like Nick Nurse came out, he just kind of let
him play. He wasn't gonna give anything away. The game
felt over at half. In the second half, it was
like they're just out of there because the Sixers have
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no bench. So I mean like like a fatigued Sixers
team got ugly really fast.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
I think the Sixers gave up what seventy four points
in the first half to the next You could just
tell they were weary.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
From the Boston series.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Thing is Colin only a day off between the next game.
I think Philly's got to win that one. I didn't
really see anything other than hack of Mitchell Robinson that
jumped out as a win for Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
There they did not look great.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You know we love to you know, like Lebron, we
like to elevate others beyond ourselfs J.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Mac.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You know, over the last couple of years, I've been
pretty successful on what they call future bets, where you
pick an over under and you try to guess you
I and the audience tries to guess where the team
will finish. We've had great success on this show. I
(12:12):
just felt like I was in the mood to give
money away, and I want to talk about a couple
of teams that one to be very careful of and
one to keep your eye on. On today's show, Nick
right top of next hour, Frank isola on the Knicks.
I mean he watches them every night.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What are they? We'll see.
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Speaker 1 (13:09):
So I've had I think it's four or five straight years.
I've been able to pick two teams each year they'll
double their win total or will be dramatically better. And
one of the things I'd always look at as schedule.
And I've said this for years. I used to when
I first started paying so much attention, like ten twelve
years ago, fifteen years ago, to the NFL schedule release,
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and people would say, we already know who they're playing.
I'm like, yeah, but the order matters. You're not going
to beat Andy Reid generally in September. You don't want
to play at Denver at what's your quarterback? Like, what's
you like in cold weather games? Do they all stack
up late in the season?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It matters.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
A prime example last year, the Patriots had the easiest
schedule in over twenty years, and they got to a
super Bowl largely because of that schedule. They stayed healthy
you get a home game here there, bo Nicks gets hurt.
You watch them in the Super Bowl, totally outclasp, no
business being there. San Francisco forty nine Ers started the
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year people thought with the easiest schedule, became the second
easiest schedule. They go twelve and five. The last two
times they played the Seahawks, Kyle Shanahan couldn't score a touchdown.
They couldn't generate a single touchdown. They weren't really a
twelve and five team, so the two teams were schedules.
This year will play a big factor. Everybody loves Dallas.
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They're over and unders eight and a half. I would
take the under. I would I would take the under.
I think they're seven to ten, eight to nineteen. I
like their draft, I like their personnel. But last year
they played the third easiest schedule and won seven games.
In their eight games against teams with a winning record,
they went one in seven. And if you look at
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their schedule this year, they have their home games Eagles, Jaguars, Ravens,
forty nine Ers, their road games, Giants, Packers, Texans, Colt, Seahawks, Rams.
That's not a nine or a ten win team. That
is a brutal schedule last year. Here's the here's the quarterbacks.
The Cowboys faced, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Geno Smith, Josh Johnson.
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You say they beat Mahomes, Mahomes ate him for lunch.
He had four touchdowns, no pick, one hundred and thirty
passer rating. It wasn't about Mahomes not scoring. Mahomes moved,
played as well as he did in any game all season.
So the reality with the Cowboys is I do like
I think their rosters better than we give it credit for,
but their schedules brutal, and they've not shown an ability
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with Brian Schottenneimer to win against better quarterbacks consistently. Okay,
now here's the opposite is the Detroit Lions, who I
think upgraded massively at offensive coordinator, so they're over and
under his ten and a half.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You're like, WHOA, never.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Forget because they got a fourth place schedule, right They
got home games against the ain'ts, Bucks, Jets, and Titans,
rode games against the Falcons, Dolphins, and Cardinals. This morning,
I got the seven wins and I wasn't even worried
about their Their division in Minnesota could be bad. So
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my point is if you look at the Cowboys, you're like, oh,
I like what they're doing. You gotta check schedules. Only
one other team in the NFL has a schedule that
will increase in difficulty more than Dallas. And here's Detroit.
Everybody's selling their Detroit stock. Great GM culture, cate coach,
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a quarterback, excellent skill, solve their left tackle issue, and
a cupcake schedule relative to the NFL average. Bet the
under on the Cowboys, believe it or not, Detroit at
eleven and six. If they go five hundred in division,
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and I think they'll do better than that, is one
of the better over bets at ten and a half.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Jmack with a news no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
This is the herd line news. I like that.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Give it away free money before the first hour of
the show is done.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Not even Christmas.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
So generous of you. I got some bad news though.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Luka Doncic has officially been ruled out of Game one
with the hamstring injury. The Lakers are not commenting on
other games in the series, but Colin, I think we
can connect some dots here, right, new ownership for the Lakers,
knowing that they are massive underdogs. Yeah, the team got
swept by the Thunder by an average margin of like
twenty eight this season. Luca's not going to play in
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this series. You're not forcing it. You do not want
to double up on the injury the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Even though Jason Tatum came back with a long runway,
he hobbled off the floor in Game six and couldn't
play in Game seven. And I think the Celtics were
smart and in the end they they I think deep
down they looked at that roster with Brown and Tatum,
and they looked at their inexperienced bigs and thought, we're
not one of the title. We're not beating OKC or
a San Antonio or even a Minnesota. So I think
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it's the smart play of the Lakers. I doubt he'll
plan this thing.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see him playing now.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
This is what I asked this on my podcast is
some people are really upset.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I said, listen, if Sga were out.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
For this series like Luca's out, I think it's a series.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
It's a real series.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
That the Lakers have a chance because Sga is that good.
But no, Luca, the Lakers have both hands tied behind
their backs. They have no chance in this series. And
you know I'm a Lakers honk, I'm lobbying my buddy
to take.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You remember three or four like Houston Houston was. What
we discovered in the Houston series is and you see
this all the time, is when you don't have a
pure point guard, it's very difficult to initiate offense. Houston
really struggled. Their efficiency was bad, even though they had
the better, deeper, athletic, younger roster than the Lakers. Is
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they struggled to get into their plays. The Lakers, meanwhile,
gave it to Lebron and said, you initiate our offense.
Even without Austin Reeves and Luca in the first couple
of games, they got right into their offense. I mean,
I just I feel like, never forget the comp for
a point guard in the NBA is a quarterback. That's
why Houston struggled. Imy A Dooka talked about that. He goes,
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I love Reed Shepherd, I love him and Thompson, but they're.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Not true points.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
He goes, They're getting better at it, but we are
struggling to get into our offense. So I think Houston
will mostly solve that. When Fred van Leek comes back
next year. Smart KG veteran. Yeah, but the way they
beat Houston, which was an inefficient offense that kind of
struggled getting into their offense. That is not sant and
that is not Oklahoma City.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, and Oklahoma City's probably gonna full court press the
Lakers the full game because they got twelve dudes on
their roster and Lebron could easily walk it up against Houston.
There's not going to be They're not going to be
that generous. Austin Reeves is gonna have to step up.
Marcus Smart, I don't know. I'm I can't get excited
about the series. I mean, the best player, the leading
score in the league is out. You know, It's like,
I don't think they have a chance. All right, let's
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move on to last night's Nick Sixers series. I don't
know if you saw this moment, but Joel Embiid is
setting a screen here on McHale Bridges and Bridges kind
of lowers the boom into Embiid. Now, I didn't think
at the time there was anything dirty or untoward, but
people are noting. Listen, the guy just had appendectomy surgery
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and now you're drilling him in the chops, right right
there in the midsection. I'm like, maybe Joel Embiid talked
about it after the game.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
I got hit on it. I don't know if she was,
you know, obviously based on what it's been going all,
I guess I gotta protect him as so. I don't
know if she was there or not. So, yeah, I
guess I gotta do a bet. I will protect my Yeah,
especially at that part. I don't think that was necessary
because Quig, you know, Tom was already going there.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It was kind of like, you.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Know, after the play, I just felt like it wasn't necessary,
but flute and move.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Off lead troll in the NBA. I don't know if
it was dirty or not. I guess I have to
protect myself. Yeah, Michael Bridges is turning into lou Dort.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Embiide knows how to play the refs. You saw him
with goating Towns and Robinson into Foules. He knows how
to play the crowd. I don't think anybody's taking the
bathe here. What's your official verdict on this?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, this game was over in the second quarter, and
again I think Philadelphia went into it and said we're
not we're not even going to unveil or game plan.
We're just we're tired, we're fatigued. I mean, it just
it just felt like Philly. Not that they gave a
game away, but I felt the I mean, the Knicks
did not come out of a wildly competitive series at
the end.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
They dominate the last two games.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They're playing with confidence, they're at home, better rested, and
it just it wasn't much of a game. I was
expecting more. Remember I said yesterday on the show, I said,
take the Knicks. Yeah, minus the seven points. That line
feels like it should be four three seven tells you,
the analytics tell you a team off an emotional NBA
playoff game. Seven drops off a cliff, and it was.
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It was not a competitive game by the second quarter.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
I know zigzag theory says you're supposed to bet sixers
next game.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I kind of like the Knicks film A.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm ready to be the Knicks.
A just vibing right now. Everything looks so smooth the offense,
and we talked about yesterday, this is Karl Anthony Town's
new role.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
As a facilitated to difference maker.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Yeah, six assists yesterday. I mean again, and he only
played like twenty something minutes. I mean, the Knicks look great.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Final story, Let's go to the NFL and my new
best friend Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Now.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Listen when I ran into him last week, Remember we talked,
but it's off the record. I couldn't say anything. Now
Brett Veach is coming out and talking about the return
of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Him being way ahead of schedule.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Here's the GM of the chiefs.
Speaker 11 (22:54):
In our building every single day, and even when he
goes away for a few days to stay to Dallas
for weekend with his family, and he takes one of
our trainers with him, so needless to say, he's way
ahead of schedule. I think the biggest challenge that we're
gonna have is protecting him against himself, because I'm sure
when we get to Saint Joe, Missouri for training camp,
you know he's gonna want to.
Speaker 12 (23:14):
Be full go, but we're gonna have to hold him
back a little. And again, I don't want to put
a timetable on it, but I think you guys know
the type of person and the competitor pad is, and
you know I would just say we're in a really
good place right now.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Once again, you know, it can be Ant, it can
be Mahomes, it can be Tatum. When you're in great shape.
These guys always heal forty percent faster than we think. Interestingly,
Luca doesn't heal as quickly. Wonder why and is back
like two weeks early Jason Tatum, we didn't know if
he was going to play Mahomes again, grinder, way ahead
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of schedule. Luca probably knocking down a Belgium beer right
about now, thinking about the glory days of his Laker career.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
This is unnecessary shot at Luca out of nowhere, I mean,
just flying in. So remember like two months ago, I
was like really down on the Chiefs that I was like,
Mahomes might start.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
On the pup list.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Okay, he got his ACL torn into December fourteenth, that
was like two months ago.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
There's no way he's starting on the pup list. I'll
tell you that, no shot.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, I really like him. It's just very easy.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
We love to Barry Champions owner GM coach quarterback went
and got a star running back. Also got a backup
running back out of Nebraska. I think in the sixth round.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Keep your eye on the Kansas.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Wait, wait a minute, how's that wide receiver room Colin.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, Rashi Rice was hurt. Now he's back?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Oh is he back? Are we sure he's not in trouble? No,
how old Iss Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
He is focused and ready to go.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Rashi Rice is locked in new mature but sure. Oh
and who's the other the skiddy guy?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Zave?
Speaker 8 (24:54):
You're worthy the gadget? Is he going to graduate from
gadget guy to.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Swiss army knife?
Speaker 13 (24:58):
Got?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I mean kitty level. I said that when he got drafted.
He's more gadget than volume. There's nothing wrong with a
gadget guy.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
They need somebody to step up. They'll they'll, they'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah they really.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Taekwon Thornton was like their deep threat last year who
he delivered a.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Pizzaut of the studio and they didn't even know who
it was.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Come on, let's not take our shots.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
By the line.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Now, So you know, Wemby is, you know, the whole
face of the league. I've said before, I don't think
the NBA needs a face of the league, and I
don't think there's been that many I think Magic and
Bird were face of the league. I think Michael Jordan
was face of the league. I think Lebron's been face
of the league. But many of the great players, Kareem,
Tim Duncan, a Keem, they were great players, they weren't
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the face of the league. I don't think it's necessary.
Uh Ant doesn't really want to be. Jason Tatum doesn't
have the aura. SGA is just not that fascinating. I
do think Cooper Flag and Wemby kind of like they
could be the face of the league. Wemby is almost domestic.
Most international players don't care. Wemby does like he wants
to be the face of the league, which is encouraging.
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But it's interesting. My take when you watch him is
the Tea Wolves are very well coached. There is one
downside to being seven foot four, and you see a
little bit of this last night. You can put smaller
players on Wemby and disrupt his balance his defense. He
had twelve blocks. It's remarkable. I've never seen anything like it,
including Kareem.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
At his peak.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But offensively, he's not an initiator. He's not Jokic, That's
not what he does. He is a disruptor and a finisher.
He's not a creator and an initiator.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's not what he is.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
He's also he's not a great passer like Jokic. His
decision making is hit and miss. But you can, and
I saw it last night, you can take him out
of his game. You can disrupt him. He was zero
for eight last night on three pointers. So it's funny.
I think Wemby is at his best and the Aaron
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Fox did not play well. Wemby is at his best
when somebody sets it up for him and he can
and he can create off that or finish off that.
But the every thing I worry about. He spends a
lot of time on the floor. And it's almost like
there's very few great tall running backs because you can
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take their legs out from them. Like the great running
backs like Emmick Smith, they all feel low center of
gravity they come through the line. Wemby is you can
knock him off balance, and he's just so tall you
could like Julius Randall, to me is the classic example.
Remember when he came into the league, people said he's
gonna get pushed around, and he did for a year.
He put on strength and he doesn't get pushed around
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nearly as much. But last night I watched him and
Minnesota is a tough matchup. And I say this all
the time. It's not just the three hundred playoff games
of experience. It's guys that have been an NBA weight
room and nutrition programs for eight, nine and ten years.
Julius Randall's been an NBA nutrition and weight programs for
twelve years.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Dude is a man. He is physical.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
These nos reads, these guys are big, strong men. And
you know it's Wemby's going to bounce back, but he
you know, he's not an initiator and a creator. He's
a disruptor and a finisher. And you know a little
like Kareem. That was Kareem. He was a disruptor defensively
and he was a finisher offensively. You can't run your
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offense through Kareem. You run it through whether it was
Jerry West, whether it was Magic Johnson. Excuse me, you
know you you you you know not Jerry West, Magic Johnson.
You want to run it through with Magic Johnson. That
was when you get the Kareem that's unstoppable. He can
get it at the end of the shot clock so
Oscar Robertson in Milwaukee set it up for him. So
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here's beyond game one loss.
Speaker 13 (29:03):
I had to use my energy, you know, obviously used
a lot of it once I o the court, and
on the other side, I used too much offensively. I
used too much energy and things that ben't really help
our team.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
So that's on me.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
If I had be Benner, if if the offensive leaders
of our team had been Betterer, it would have been different.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You Know what I found interesting last night is that
a lot of teams. It was a very very entertaining
game between two really really good rosters, one a lot
of experience, one without a lot of experience. But the
timberwol if you take Wemby out, Minnesota is the bigger team,
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Like if you take if you took Wemby and Rudy
Gobert out, like the size and the strength of Minnesota
as a handful and the tea Wolves. They kind of
went right at Wenby. That's why he blocked twelve shots.
Minnesota's like, yeah, you can have. We're gonna get some
goaltending calls. They did miss one goaltending call. I think
it was nine to twenty or something in the third quarter.
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I think it was around there and I'm like, oh,
they missed one there, So I think my memory could
be fuzzy, but it was like nine and a half
minutes left. I think in the third quarter they just
arrests let it go, and it felt like a goaltending
to me. But overall Minnesota went right at him.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
They're like, we don't care block some shots. We don't care.
We're going to go right at you.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
And I think psychologically that's kind of an important thing.
It's kind of impressive. We're you're not going to change
the calculus on us. You're gonna block some shots, We're gonna.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Go right at you.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And that's what they did. Why coming out Nick right
top of the hour. Why the Celtics losing is actually
great for the NBA. I know it's a big brand.
I know they're popular. Why it may be great for
the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know, there's this sense that outside of the NFL,
markets and brands matter, and I think it even matters
in the NFL. If the Packers make a Super Bowl,
you're going to get a huge number. If the Bears
made the Super Bowl would be more popular. You get
a better rating that if the Jaguars got the Super Bowl.
It's just the reality of like last year didn't have
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a lot of buzz around it. Although I thought the
Seahawks were excellent, they're not as national as certain teams
like San Francisco or the Bears or the Eagles are,
And so the Celtics are obviously a very big brand.
But a couple of years ago the Celtics got into
the Championship won and the ratings weren't very good. And
one of the reasons is their offenses predictable and boring.
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It's too many three point shots and they shoot more
three pointers than almost anybody in the NBA. And if
you look at them losing, especially the way they lost,
the ridiculous seven to three point shot attempts in the
last three and a half minutes trailing by one, it
looked ridiculous. The most NBA shots three point shots per game,
the top eleven one team remains and the face of
(32:25):
it really feels like the Warriors and the Celtics both done.
And I think it's good for the league. It's like
the tush push. It was less effective last year.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Good.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's bad television, it's predictable, and it's ugly. It's a scrum.
So I don't like math deciding my sports. I've said
before sports sports should be like a well balanced meal.
Little protein, little carbs, little vegetables. Right, that's what sports
should be, a well balanced meal. I think the NBA
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is two three point reliant and the analytic mavens get
very defensive if you don't buy into all of their analytics.
And I talked about this yesterday on the show. There's
certainly things you shouldn't do as a parent. I don't
want my kids on iPads all the time when they
were young, but if we're driving to Grandma's and it's
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a five and a half hour drive, I'll let them
be on the iPad the entire time. There's a way
to parent, and then there's an understanding that twelve to
fifteen days a year when they're on a flight screaming,
or they're in the back seat screaming. You make exceptions
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to parenting. Here's an iPad, stay on it all day.
That's not how I parent. But they're exceptions. And that's
what I always say about baseball's postseason. I mean, Dave
Roberts Game seven pulled every lever where they all analytically brilliant.
Some of it was I got men in this locker room.
I got an old veteran, I'm gonna put him in
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and he delivered. And I think a lot of that.
A great example of this is in the NFL playoffs
when Denver goes forward on like fourth and two. You
had a blizzard coming, You had a backup quarterback against
an excellent pass rush and an excellent defense. Kick the
field goal. It's a low scoring game. It's a backup quarterback.
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Why are you rolling out a pocket quarterback? If I
had Bo Nicks, I'd run that play. I'm not running
that play with Jarrett Stidham. I'm probably with a blizzard
coming and you know the weather report and a low
scoring game that was not going to be a shootout.
Kick the field goal. I don't care what it says.
Playoff sports are situational over the course of your life.
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Parenting your parent one way, but there are moments you
take your kid to church for an hour, or he's
on the plane and he's screaming or she's screaming.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You pairing a little differently.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So when I'm watching the Celtics crank up seven threes
and go for seven at the end of that game,
I don't care what the analytics say. That was dumb.
That was not good coaching, That was bad coaching. So
I like, I actually like, and I've been on this
for years. The NBA thinks tanking is their biggest issue.
I do not. I think load managements a problem, and
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I think the game can look really repetitive. So I
love the fact that all these three point merchants. I
don't think floppings the end of the world. You know,
everybody's been doing it forever. I think tanking won't be
as big next year when the draft not as good.
But this three point renaissance in revolution, it's like small ball.
Everybody was in a small ball. No, the Warriors were
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good at it because they had Draymond Green. Like Draymond
Green's probably the best defensive player of all time, plays
way above his size. Nobody else had Draymond Green. See,
he was the classic bouncer at the bar that maybe
didn't have the biggest build, but was the tough guy.
So it worked with them, it didn't work with anybody else.
Look at who's left in basketball, Rudy Gobert, Wemby, Mitchell Robinson,
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Kat Joe Lmbid, Evan Mobley. It's all biggs. Who I listen,
Jared Allen. There's another guy, a big so a small
ball thing. I never bought into it. Chris Bruce Arden
and I talked about this, the Celtics being just paralyzed
completely beholden to the three point shot.
Speaker 14 (36:30):
Jalen and Jason Tatum are obviously two legitimate stars. After that,
Baylor Shireman and Cada and Peyton Princher, God bless him
is a really good, you know, six man.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
When you get into the.
Speaker 14 (36:45):
Playoffs and you know it's a smaller sample size seven
game series, and you know all types of other things
are coming into.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Play, does a guy get nervous?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Is a guy.
Speaker 14 (36:57):
Clutched the analyt You can't solely rely on analytics.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
You know, this is a really interesting thing that Brew
brought up yesterday. There is a big difference shooting a
three point shot with a four point lead and shooting
a three point shot trailing by three on the road
with forty seconds left, and so much of shooting his confidence.
We've seen Steph Curry going too slumps and then we've
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seen Steph Curry where he just throwing it looks like
garbage up.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
And it goes in. You know it there.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
We all remember that Michael Jordan hands out when he
got hot against the Portland Trailblazers. Like Michael was never
a great three point shooter, but shooters get.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Into zones and the three point shot.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Even the Celtics are incredibly streaky, and I know the
math works out, but the Celtics this year, I think
they were when they shot forty percent or more than
were thirty nine to zero. But they didn't about half
the time. I mean a lot of Celtic games they
were just rock city. And I mean I watch at
the end of this game with Philadelphia, it's like embarrassing.
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It's like that's it. Go get a bucket.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
What are you doing? It's awful.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Oh and I yesterday we got into something so j Mac.
You haven't moved a lot in your life, but you move.
You moved cross country. You went from the east to
the west coast.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
That qualifies as a large move.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
With two that's one large move.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
But I was saying yesterday, and we'll talk about this
with Nick Wright in the next hour. Frank Isisola is
going to join us from New York. Nick right a
top of the hour. The Aaron Rodgers situation. So the
Steelers come out and the Steeters are like, Okay, we've
got this new tender we're offering. Basically wanted to seize
control of their offseason. Aaron's people, although he would deny it,
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suddenly come out.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
There's leaks.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
He's really interested in Arizona. This is the gamesmanship of
the NFL, where Aaron's doing this thing kind of disappears.
The Steelers are like, okay, we played the game. We're
offering a very unique, quirky, rare tender. Show up quickly,
and then Aaron's people are like, Okay, my buddy Nat
Hacketts in Arizona, let's make that now.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
You could say what you want.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
But when I've made my moves in my career, and
I tell my kids this all the time. Grab a
yellow pad, Nope, Patty and a pen. Write things in
your life you want to manifest.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
No, I don't want a computer. I don't want to spreadsheet.
Write it down. Don't talk about it to yourself. Write
it down. Because every time I've moved, I've done a
pro and I just go, oh, I look at it.
I stared it. I want to see it and feel it.
So I did that with Aaron Rodgers. Arizona and Pittsburgh
really interesting. If you do pros and cons, you think
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to yourself, well, Steelers are up here.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Arizona is a tire fire.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's fascinating how many vantages there are in Arizona and
how many disadvantages when you dig deep with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Okay, Lebron, good luck, we call him back up.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
Are we sure Arizona wants Aaron Rodgers a little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
More than I think people think?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
Nick right one hour, Frank A. Sola on the nixt win.
The most disrespected franchise in the NBA has to be
the Minnesota Timberwolves in the packed Western Conference. They've gone
to back to back Western Conference Finals. They lead the
Spurs now with WENB one to zero. And we treat
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them like the Pelicans, and we said yesterday on the
show they actually are kind of built to beat San Antonio. Thick, big, experienced,
well coached. They'll get physical. They're a great fourth quarter team,
and they did it. They won Game one in San
Antonio and it was a classic t Wolves game. They've
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been an unbelievable fourth quarter team, but they just kind
of hung around. San Antonio had been red hot from
three point land. They took them out of their game
and then in the fourth quarter, Ant had eleven points.
Julius Randall, the guys are walking nineteen and nine, twelve
years in the NBA, like the t Wolves, not really
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respected Clever. Mike Conley hit a three. They're just a
perfect mix of youth and experience and trunky and physical
and long the best team in the NBA in the
fourth quarter. Now in the playoffs they're number one and
basically everything offensive rating, defensive rating, point differential and all
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that is is experience plus coaching and their general manager
Mike Conley, Tim Connolly, he's the one that built Denver
into a title team.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
He left Denver.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Have you noticed the Nuggets have overpaid for some players,
don't have the bench, The Nuggets aren't as good. He
goes to Minnesota, and like Denver, he has built a
roster that actually matches up with everybody in the NBA.
And we talked about this yesterday. When the playoffs arrive,
you gotta have a star who can rise above scheme.
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That's Ant that he can just put the ball in
his hands, make plays. Because you're playing the best coaches,
you're facing the best teams, you can't keep out scheming everybody.
And these were excellent rosters. When you watch the Western Conference,
it reminds me of the SEC five years ago. Over
the Big Ten. Now it's just really good. You get
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real clarity, you can tell who's good. I don't feel
that way in the East, but the t Wolves have
been just giant killers the last several years. They beat
KD and Booker in Phoenix. They beat Jamal Murray and
Jokic two different times. They beat Luca and Lebron, and
now they got their eyes set on Wemby and they're
a nightmare matchup. I was looking this morning. The starting
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lineup for the tee Wolves has it combined three hundred
playoff games, the Spurs thirty six. That is a major
problem in the fourth quarter because if you watched whim,
they took Wemby out of his game. They had him
off balance. He was zero for eight from three. They
took away. They have such length and excellent athleticism on
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the perimeter. San Antonio is eating everybody alive on three
point shooting, and they just negated. That's why the Spurs
could not pull away, and that if you're a San
Antonio fan, you do not want these games to be
close entering the fourth quarter. That's gonna be Minnesota's quarter.
They don't have the playoff experience, and if you take
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Wemby out, Minnesota is actually deeper and better and more physical.
So San Antonio, you got to put Minnesota away quickly.
And it's interesting. I mean, even on this show, I
mean I give the Celtics a certain level of respect,
and I give okay See respect, and I give Denver
respect that everybody gives Lebron respect.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Here are the Tea Wolves.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
In back to back Western Conference finals with there's an
argument outside of Oklahoma City, it's the deepest roster in
the NBA. I mean, they got young kids that weren't
even in the rotation now that are flourishing. Number one
fourth quarter team, number two in the regular season. That
was the difference last night. And with eleven points, although
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he did not think he played great down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'm disappointing myself. How can you be disappointed? We didn't
even expect to see you out here tonight? How important
was it for you? To be available for your guys
in game one.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
For me, man, seventy five percent of the game for
me is my mind. My mind got to be where
it needs to be in In the last two minutes
of the game, it wasn't. I gave up two offensive rebounds,
turned the ball over.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, all I know is this.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You got guys like Julius Randall, who's been bouncing around
the league, and he's the perfect timberwolf because he's overlooked.
And it could be nas Reed, and it could be
Jaden McDaniels, it can be ac and it can Rudy
Gobert has been getting crapped for years. It could be
Mike Conley. There's just so much experience and talent with Minnesota.
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And if these games are close, fourth quarter is the
tea wolves between coaching and experience. Okay, so it's I
said this about the Eastern Conference. I mean through various
times this year. I mean last year, out of the blue,
the Pacers fly through it. And this year you're like
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Detroit's a number one seed, They've got one score. I
can't really figure out the East. So I watched the
Knicks over their last four games, They've won by thirty nine,
fifty one, twenty nine and sixteen.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Are they great? I don't really think so. Are they?
Are they good? Absolutely? Are they very good? I don't know. Now.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The Sixers last night, off an emotional Game seven against Boston,
were completely flat. I mean, Jalen Brunson kind of did
whatever he wanted to do, scored thirty five points, twelve
for eighteen. He just did whatever he wanted to do.
I kind of felt like Nick Nurse was just he
knew his team was fatigued. He knew his team was
going to be flat, so he didn't give away a
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lot of secrets. He just kind of let it play out.
But I will give the New York Knicks credit for this.
So they fired TIBs because they thought they just weren't
good enough offensively. And you gotta give Mike Brown credit. Okay,
they're shooting sixty in their last three games. Mike Brown's
not a rigid guy. He is willing to experiment, and
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what they've done with Katkat now is like a point center.
He has doubled his assists, his distribution numbers from regular
season to postseason, and a lot of that's just good coaching,
but it's difficult. Remember in the Super Bowl, like, look,
was New England really a good team? We watched the
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Seahawks and the Rams play and you're like, those are
the two best teams in football. But New England got
to the Super Bowl because the easiest schedule in the
last thirty years, and Bo Nicks got hurt for Denver.
But if you looked at the Rams and the Seahawks,
they went ten to zero against the AFC and the
Thunder and the Spurs have gone forty nine and eleven
against the Eastern Conference. So I don't know what the
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hell to make of the East. Are the Knicks good?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think offensively. Now that Mike Brown is putting the
ball in the hands of Cat up top, I think
that's really smart. It's taken some of the heat off
Brunson to constantly be the playmaker and to make Cat
kind of a score and a distributor. Now you know
what they're going to try to do. They're going to
have himbiid, go after Cat, try to eliminate that, get
(08:11):
him into foul trouble. And last night the Knicks Biggs.
They drew some early fouls. But I will say this,
the fatigued Sixers will play better in Game two. But
when you watch this with the Cat move, Nicks are
playing with confidence. It's a totally complimentary, flawed roster, but
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they play very well together. They've got a little bit
better bench, not a great one, but better than the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Home court advantage.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So you know, I can watch Minnesota in the Spurs
Oklahoma City and go those are really high end teams.
Maybe I haven't given given the Knicks enough credit. I
find the Eastern Conference. I mean, Detroit's a number one seed.
Is Cleveland good? The Pistons don't have a number two score.
Philadelphia we gave up on him. Are they good? I
(09:05):
thought the Celtics were. But I'll say this, using Cat,
the way they're using him is effective, it's smart.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And here he was after the win.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
He's just kind of got a job as a team executing.
And you know, obviously we changed a little bit things
up and it's been very good for us. I just
love that I get to get my teammates involved and
I give it to the chance of quarterback, to the
offense and give them, you know, put them in positions
I feel they could succeed, and they've obliged, like I
said before, you know, they trust they're trusting me more
(09:36):
with ball right now, and I just want to continue
to repay their trust with the right plays and making
the right decisions.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I mean a lot of people say it's the best
jump shooting big in basketball. He is a Remember when
Anthony Davis was with the Lakers, he was never really
comfortable outside great defensive player. Cat's not never really comfortable
on the deep perimeter. But Cat is and the fact
that like a Yokich he can distribute assist totals. It's
like a smart move. And when they got rid of Tibbs,
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I said, what are you doing? You finally got the
coach and Mike Brown's been like experimental, you know, he's
been taking some swings and it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Kind of works.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But I go back to I just don't know right, Like,
I'm not really sure because all year long we've been
looking at the East going Detroit's good, Wait till Boston
gets Tatum last year It's like India is Indiana good?
I love Halliburton, but are so I'm one of these
viewers of the East. I'm like, I will have Frank
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I Sola on here. I mean, there's things they do well.
But then I watch which, by the way, I don't
like putting playoff games on at the same time, but
I'm watching this Pursson in Minnesota and I'm like, Holy
my god, Minnesota's athletes and.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Length and size and ant and wow.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Then Wemby and I don't know, it's different to me,
Jay Mack, You've been on the Knicks all year. That's
your favorite team. They're on an absolute offensive heater. But
it did a lot of it did feel like Philadelphia
Like Nick Nurse came out, he just kind of let
him play. He wasn't gonna give anything away. The game
felt over at half. In the second half, it was
like they're just out of there because the Sixers have
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no bench. So I mean like like a fatigued Sixers
team got ugly really fast.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
I think the Sixers gave up what seventy four points
in the first half to the next You could just
tell they were weary.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
From the Boston series.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Thing is Colin only a day off between the next game.
I think Philly's got to win that one. I didn't
really see anything other than hack of Mitchell Robinson that
jumped out as a win for Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
There they did not look great.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You know we love to you know, like Lebron, we
like to elevate others beyond ourselfs J.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Mac.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You know, over the last couple of years, I've been
pretty successful on what they call future bets, where you
pick an over under and you try to guess you
I and the audience tries to guess where the team
will finish. We've had great success on this show. I
(12:12):
just felt like I was in the mood to give
money away, and I want to talk about a couple
of teams that one to be very careful of and
one to keep your eye on. On today's show, Nick
right top of next hour, Frank isola on the Knicks.
I mean he watches them every night.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What are they? We'll see.
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Speaker 1 (13:09):
So I've had I think it's four or five straight years.
I've been able to pick two teams each year they'll
double their win total or will be dramatically better. And
one of the things I'd always look at as schedule.
And I've said this for years. I used to when
I first started paying so much attention, like ten twelve
years ago, fifteen years ago, to the NFL schedule release,
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and people would say, we already know who they're playing.
I'm like, yeah, but the order matters. You're not going
to beat Andy Reid generally in September. You don't want
to play at Denver at what's your quarterback? Like, what's
you like in cold weather games? Do they all stack
up late in the season?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It matters.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
A prime example last year, the Patriots had the easiest
schedule in over twenty years, and they got to a
super Bowl largely because of that schedule. They stayed healthy
you get a home game here there, bo Nicks gets hurt.
You watch them in the Super Bowl, totally outclasp, no
business being there. San Francisco forty nine Ers started the
(14:04):
year people thought with the easiest schedule, became the second
easiest schedule. They go twelve and five. The last two
times they played the Seahawks, Kyle Shanahan couldn't score a touchdown.
They couldn't generate a single touchdown. They weren't really a
twelve and five team, so the two teams were schedules.
This year will play a big factor. Everybody loves Dallas.
(14:25):
They're over and unders eight and a half. I would
take the under. I would I would take the under.
I think they're seven to ten, eight to nineteen. I
like their draft, I like their personnel. But last year
they played the third easiest schedule and won seven games.
In their eight games against teams with a winning record,
they went one in seven. And if you look at
(14:47):
their schedule this year, they have their home games Eagles, Jaguars, Ravens,
forty nine Ers, their road games, Giants, Packers, Texans, Colt, Seahawks, Rams.
That's not a nine or a ten win team. That
is a brutal schedule last year. Here's the here's the quarterbacks.
The Cowboys faced, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Geno Smith, Josh Johnson.
(15:12):
You say they beat Mahomes, Mahomes ate him for lunch.
He had four touchdowns, no pick, one hundred and thirty
passer rating. It wasn't about Mahomes not scoring. Mahomes moved,
played as well as he did in any game all season.
So the reality with the Cowboys is I do like
I think their rosters better than we give it credit for,
but their schedules brutal, and they've not shown an ability
(15:34):
with Brian Schottenneimer to win against better quarterbacks consistently. Okay,
now here's the opposite is the Detroit Lions, who I
think upgraded massively at offensive coordinator, so they're over and
under his ten and a half.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You're like, WHOA, never.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Forget because they got a fourth place schedule, right They
got home games against the ain'ts, Bucks, Jets, and Titans,
rode games against the Falcons, Dolphins, and Cardinals. This morning,
I got the seven wins and I wasn't even worried
about their Their division in Minnesota could be bad. So
(16:14):
my point is if you look at the Cowboys, you're like, oh,
I like what they're doing. You gotta check schedules. Only
one other team in the NFL has a schedule that
will increase in difficulty more than Dallas. And here's Detroit.
Everybody's selling their Detroit stock. Great GM culture, cate coach,
(16:38):
a quarterback, excellent skill, solve their left tackle issue, and
a cupcake schedule relative to the NFL average. Bet the
under on the Cowboys, believe it or not, Detroit at
eleven and six. If they go five hundred in division,
(16:59):
and I think they'll do better than that, is one
of the better over bets at ten and a half.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Jmack with a news no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
This is the herd line news. I like that.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Give it away free money before the first hour of
the show is done.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Not even Christmas.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
So generous of you. I got some bad news though.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Luka Doncic has officially been ruled out of Game one
with the hamstring injury. The Lakers are not commenting on
other games in the series, but Colin, I think we
can connect some dots here, right, new ownership for the Lakers,
knowing that they are massive underdogs. Yeah, the team got
swept by the Thunder by an average margin of like
twenty eight this season. Luca's not going to play in
(17:40):
this series. You're not forcing it. You do not want
to double up on the injury the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Even though Jason Tatum came back with a long runway,
he hobbled off the floor in Game six and couldn't
play in Game seven. And I think the Celtics were
smart and in the end they they I think deep
down they looked at that roster with Brown and Tatum,
and they looked at their inexperienced bigs and thought, we're
not one of the title. We're not beating OKC or
a San Antonio or even a Minnesota. So I think
(18:06):
it's the smart play of the Lakers. I doubt he'll
plan this thing.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see him playing now.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
This is what I asked this on my podcast is
some people are really upset.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I said, listen, if Sga were out.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
For this series like Luca's out, I think it's a series.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
It's a real series.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
That the Lakers have a chance because Sga is that good.
But no, Luca, the Lakers have both hands tied behind
their backs. They have no chance in this series. And
you know I'm a Lakers honk, I'm lobbying my buddy
to take.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You remember three or four like Houston Houston was. What
we discovered in the Houston series is and you see
this all the time, is when you don't have a
pure point guard, it's very difficult to initiate offense. Houston
really struggled. Their efficiency was bad, even though they had
the better, deeper, athletic, younger roster than the Lakers. Is
(18:53):
they struggled to get into their plays. The Lakers, meanwhile,
gave it to Lebron and said, you initiate our offense.
Even without Austin Reeves and Luca in the first couple
of games, they got right into their offense. I mean,
I just I feel like, never forget the comp for
a point guard in the NBA is a quarterback. That's
why Houston struggled. Imy A Dooka talked about that. He goes,
(19:14):
I love Reed Shepherd, I love him and Thompson, but they're.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Not true points.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
He goes, They're getting better at it, but we are
struggling to get into our offense. So I think Houston
will mostly solve that. When Fred van Leek comes back
next year. Smart KG veteran. Yeah, but the way they
beat Houston, which was an inefficient offense that kind of
struggled getting into their offense. That is not sant and
that is not Oklahoma City.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, and Oklahoma City's probably gonna full court press the
Lakers the full game because they got twelve dudes on
their roster and Lebron could easily walk it up against Houston.
There's not going to be They're not going to be
that generous. Austin Reeves is gonna have to step up.
Marcus Smart, I don't know. I'm I can't get excited
about the series. I mean, the best player, the leading
score in the league is out. You know, It's like,
I don't think they have a chance. All right, let's
(20:00):
move on to last night's Nick Sixers series. I don't
know if you saw this moment, but Joel Embiid is
setting a screen here on McHale Bridges and Bridges kind
of lowers the boom into Embiid. Now, I didn't think
at the time there was anything dirty or untoward, but
people are noting. Listen, the guy just had appendectomy surgery
(20:22):
and now you're drilling him in the chops, right right
there in the midsection. I'm like, maybe Joel Embiid talked
about it after the game.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
I got hit on it. I don't know if she was,
you know, obviously based on what it's been going all,
I guess I gotta protect him as so. I don't
know if she was there or not. So, yeah, I
guess I gotta do a bet. I will protect my Yeah,
especially at that part. I don't think that was necessary
because Quig, you know, Tom was already going there.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It was kind of like, you.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Know, after the play, I just felt like it wasn't necessary,
but flute and move.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Off lead troll in the NBA. I don't know if
it was dirty or not. I guess I have to
protect myself. Yeah, Michael Bridges is turning into lou Dort.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Embiide knows how to play the refs. You saw him
with goating Towns and Robinson into Foules. He knows how
to play the crowd. I don't think anybody's taking the
bathe here. What's your official verdict on this?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, this game was over in the second quarter, and
again I think Philadelphia went into it and said we're
not we're not even going to unveil or game plan.
We're just we're tired, we're fatigued. I mean, it just
it just felt like Philly. Not that they gave a
game away, but I felt the I mean, the Knicks
did not come out of a wildly competitive series at
the end.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
They dominate the last two games.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They're playing with confidence, they're at home, better rested, and
it just it wasn't much of a game. I was
expecting more. Remember I said yesterday on the show, I said,
take the Knicks. Yeah, minus the seven points. That line
feels like it should be four three seven tells you,
the analytics tell you a team off an emotional NBA
playoff game. Seven drops off a cliff, and it was.
(22:07):
It was not a competitive game by the second quarter.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
I know zigzag theory says you're supposed to bet sixers
next game.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I kind of like the Knicks film A.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm ready to be the Knicks.
A just vibing right now. Everything looks so smooth the offense,
and we talked about yesterday, this is Karl Anthony Town's
new role.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
As a facilitated to difference maker.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Yeah, six assists yesterday. I mean again, and he only
played like twenty something minutes. I mean, the Knicks look great.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Final story, Let's go to the NFL and my new
best friend Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Now.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Listen when I ran into him last week, Remember we talked,
but it's off the record. I couldn't say anything. Now
Brett Veach is coming out and talking about the return
of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Him being way ahead of schedule.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Here's the GM of the chiefs.
Speaker 11 (22:54):
In our building every single day, and even when he
goes away for a few days to stay to Dallas
for weekend with his family, and he takes one of
our trainers with him, so needless to say, he's way
ahead of schedule. I think the biggest challenge that we're
gonna have is protecting him against himself, because I'm sure
when we get to Saint Joe, Missouri for training camp,
you know he's gonna want to.
Speaker 12 (23:14):
Be full go, but we're gonna have to hold him
back a little. And again, I don't want to put
a timetable on it, but I think you guys know
the type of person and the competitor pad is, and
you know I would just say we're in a really
good place right now.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Once again, you know, it can be Ant, it can
be Mahomes, it can be Tatum. When you're in great shape.
These guys always heal forty percent faster than we think. Interestingly,
Luca doesn't heal as quickly. Wonder why and is back
like two weeks early Jason Tatum, we didn't know if
he was going to play Mahomes again, grinder, way ahead
(23:52):
of schedule. Luca probably knocking down a Belgium beer right
about now, thinking about the glory days of his Laker career.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
This is unnecessary shot at Luca out of nowhere, I mean,
just flying in. So remember like two months ago, I
was like really down on the Chiefs that I was like,
Mahomes might start.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
On the pup list.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Okay, he got his ACL torn into December fourteenth, that
was like two months ago.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
There's no way he's starting on the pup list. I'll
tell you that, no shot.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, I really like him. It's just very easy.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
We love to Barry Champions owner GM coach quarterback went
and got a star running back. Also got a backup
running back out of Nebraska. I think in the sixth round.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Keep your eye on the Kansas.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Wait, wait a minute, how's that wide receiver room Colin.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, Rashi Rice was hurt. Now he's back?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Oh is he back? Are we sure he's not in trouble? No,
how old Iss Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
He is focused and ready to go.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Rashi Rice is locked in new mature but sure. Oh
and who's the other the skiddy guy?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Zave?
Speaker 8 (24:54):
You're worthy the gadget? Is he going to graduate from
gadget guy to.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Swiss army knife?
Speaker 13 (24:58):
Got?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I mean kitty level. I said that when he got drafted.
He's more gadget than volume. There's nothing wrong with a
gadget guy.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
They need somebody to step up. They'll they'll, they'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah they really.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Taekwon Thornton was like their deep threat last year who
he delivered a.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Pizzaut of the studio and they didn't even know who
it was.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Come on, let's not take our shots.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
By the line.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Now, So you know, Wemby is, you know, the whole
face of the league. I've said before, I don't think
the NBA needs a face of the league, and I
don't think there's been that many I think Magic and
Bird were face of the league. I think Michael Jordan
was face of the league. I think Lebron's been face
of the league. But many of the great players, Kareem,
Tim Duncan, a Keem, they were great players, they weren't
(25:48):
the face of the league. I don't think it's necessary.
Uh Ant doesn't really want to be. Jason Tatum doesn't
have the aura. SGA is just not that fascinating. I
do think Cooper Flag and Wemby kind of like they
could be the face of the league. Wemby is almost domestic.
Most international players don't care. Wemby does like he wants
to be the face of the league, which is encouraging.
(26:10):
But it's interesting. My take when you watch him is
the Tea Wolves are very well coached. There is one
downside to being seven foot four, and you see a
little bit of this last night. You can put smaller
players on Wemby and disrupt his balance his defense. He
had twelve blocks. It's remarkable. I've never seen anything like it,
including Kareem.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
At his peak.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But offensively, he's not an initiator. He's not Jokic, That's
not what he does. He is a disruptor and a finisher.
He's not a creator and an initiator.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's not what he is.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
He's also he's not a great passer like Jokic. His
decision making is hit and miss. But you can, and
I saw it last night, you can take him out
of his game. You can disrupt him. He was zero
for eight last night on three pointers. So it's funny.
I think Wemby is at his best and the Aaron
(27:09):
Fox did not play well. Wemby is at his best
when somebody sets it up for him and he can
and he can create off that or finish off that.
But the every thing I worry about. He spends a
lot of time on the floor. And it's almost like
there's very few great tall running backs because you can
(27:29):
take their legs out from them. Like the great running
backs like Emmick Smith, they all feel low center of
gravity they come through the line. Wemby is you can
knock him off balance, and he's just so tall you
could like Julius Randall, to me is the classic example.
Remember when he came into the league, people said he's
gonna get pushed around, and he did for a year.
He put on strength and he doesn't get pushed around
(27:51):
nearly as much. But last night I watched him and
Minnesota is a tough matchup. And I say this all
the time. It's not just the three hundred playoff games
of experience. It's guys that have been an NBA weight
room and nutrition programs for eight, nine and ten years.
Julius Randall's been an NBA nutrition and weight programs for
twelve years.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Dude is a man. He is physical.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
These nos reads, these guys are big, strong men. And
you know it's Wemby's going to bounce back, but he
you know, he's not an initiator and a creator. He's
a disruptor and a finisher. And you know a little
like Kareem. That was Kareem. He was a disruptor defensively
and he was a finisher offensively. You can't run your
(28:37):
offense through Kareem. You run it through whether it was
Jerry West, whether it was Magic Johnson. Excuse me, you
know you you you you know not Jerry West, Magic Johnson.
You want to run it through with Magic Johnson. That
was when you get the Kareem that's unstoppable. He can
get it at the end of the shot clock so
Oscar Robertson in Milwaukee set it up for him. So
(28:59):
here's beyond game one loss.
Speaker 13 (29:03):
I had to use my energy, you know, obviously used
a lot of it once I o the court, and
on the other side, I used too much offensively. I
used too much energy and things that ben't really help
our team.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
So that's on me.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
If I had be Benner, if if the offensive leaders
of our team had been Betterer, it would have been different.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You Know what I found interesting last night is that
a lot of teams. It was a very very entertaining
game between two really really good rosters, one a lot
of experience, one without a lot of experience. But the
timberwol if you take Wemby out, Minnesota is the bigger team,
(29:46):
Like if you take if you took Wemby and Rudy
Gobert out, like the size and the strength of Minnesota
as a handful and the tea Wolves. They kind of
went right at Wenby. That's why he blocked twelve shots.
Minnesota's like, yeah, you can have. We're gonna get some
goaltending calls. They did miss one goaltending call. I think
it was nine to twenty or something in the third quarter.
(30:08):
I think it was around there and I'm like, oh,
they missed one there, So I think my memory could
be fuzzy, but it was like nine and a half
minutes left. I think in the third quarter they just
arrests let it go, and it felt like a goaltending
to me. But overall Minnesota went right at him.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
They're like, we don't care block some shots. We don't care.
We're going to go right at you.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
And I think psychologically that's kind of an important thing.
It's kind of impressive. We're you're not going to change
the calculus on us. You're gonna block some shots, We're gonna.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Go right at you.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And that's what they did. Why coming out Nick right
top of the hour. Why the Celtics losing is actually
great for the NBA. I know it's a big brand.
I know they're popular. Why it may be great for
the NBA.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
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Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know, there's this sense that outside of the NFL,
markets and brands matter, and I think it even matters
in the NFL. If the Packers make a Super Bowl,
you're going to get a huge number. If the Bears
made the Super Bowl would be more popular. You get
a better rating that if the Jaguars got the Super Bowl.
It's just the reality of like last year didn't have
(31:39):
a lot of buzz around it. Although I thought the
Seahawks were excellent, they're not as national as certain teams
like San Francisco or the Bears or the Eagles are,
And so the Celtics are obviously a very big brand.
But a couple of years ago the Celtics got into
the Championship won and the ratings weren't very good. And
one of the reasons is their offenses predictable and boring.
(32:00):
It's too many three point shots and they shoot more
three pointers than almost anybody in the NBA. And if
you look at them losing, especially the way they lost,
the ridiculous seven to three point shot attempts in the
last three and a half minutes trailing by one, it
looked ridiculous. The most NBA shots three point shots per game,
the top eleven one team remains and the face of
(32:25):
it really feels like the Warriors and the Celtics both done.
And I think it's good for the league. It's like
the tush push. It was less effective last year.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Good.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's bad television, it's predictable, and it's ugly. It's a scrum.
So I don't like math deciding my sports. I've said
before sports sports should be like a well balanced meal.
Little protein, little carbs, little vegetables. Right, that's what sports
should be, a well balanced meal. I think the NBA
(33:00):
is two three point reliant and the analytic mavens get
very defensive if you don't buy into all of their analytics.
And I talked about this yesterday on the show. There's
certainly things you shouldn't do as a parent. I don't
want my kids on iPads all the time when they
were young, but if we're driving to Grandma's and it's
(33:23):
a five and a half hour drive, I'll let them
be on the iPad the entire time. There's a way
to parent, and then there's an understanding that twelve to
fifteen days a year when they're on a flight screaming,
or they're in the back seat screaming. You make exceptions
(33:45):
to parenting. Here's an iPad, stay on it all day.
That's not how I parent. But they're exceptions. And that's
what I always say about baseball's postseason. I mean, Dave
Roberts Game seven pulled every lever where they all analytically brilliant.
Some of it was I got men in this locker room.
I got an old veteran, I'm gonna put him in
(34:07):
and he delivered. And I think a lot of that.
A great example of this is in the NFL playoffs
when Denver goes forward on like fourth and two. You
had a blizzard coming, You had a backup quarterback against
an excellent pass rush and an excellent defense. Kick the
field goal. It's a low scoring game. It's a backup quarterback.
(34:27):
Why are you rolling out a pocket quarterback? If I
had Bo Nicks, I'd run that play. I'm not running
that play with Jarrett Stidham. I'm probably with a blizzard
coming and you know the weather report and a low
scoring game that was not going to be a shootout.
Kick the field goal. I don't care what it says.
Playoff sports are situational over the course of your life.
(34:50):
Parenting your parent one way, but there are moments you
take your kid to church for an hour, or he's
on the plane and he's screaming or she's screaming.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You pairing a little differently.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So when I'm watching the Celtics crank up seven threes
and go for seven at the end of that game,
I don't care what the analytics say. That was dumb.
That was not good coaching, That was bad coaching. So
I like, I actually like, and I've been on this
for years. The NBA thinks tanking is their biggest issue.
I do not. I think load managements a problem, and
(35:24):
I think the game can look really repetitive. So I
love the fact that all these three point merchants. I
don't think floppings the end of the world. You know,
everybody's been doing it forever. I think tanking won't be
as big next year when the draft not as good.
But this three point renaissance in revolution, it's like small ball.
Everybody was in a small ball. No, the Warriors were
(35:44):
good at it because they had Draymond Green. Like Draymond
Green's probably the best defensive player of all time, plays
way above his size. Nobody else had Draymond Green. See,
he was the classic bouncer at the bar that maybe
didn't have the biggest build, but was the tough guy.
So it worked with them, it didn't work with anybody else.
Look at who's left in basketball, Rudy Gobert, Wemby, Mitchell Robinson,
(36:08):
Kat Joe Lmbid, Evan Mobley. It's all biggs. Who I listen,
Jared Allen. There's another guy, a big so a small
ball thing. I never bought into it. Chris Bruce Arden
and I talked about this, the Celtics being just paralyzed
completely beholden to the three point shot.
Speaker 14 (36:30):
Jalen and Jason Tatum are obviously two legitimate stars. After that,
Baylor Shireman and Cada and Peyton Princher, God bless him
is a really good, you know, six man.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
When you get into the.
Speaker 14 (36:45):
Playoffs and you know it's a smaller sample size seven
game series, and you know all types of other things
are coming into.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Play, does a guy get nervous?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Is a guy.
Speaker 14 (36:57):
Clutched the analyt You can't solely rely on analytics.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
You know, this is a really interesting thing that Brew
brought up yesterday. There is a big difference shooting a
three point shot with a four point lead and shooting
a three point shot trailing by three on the road
with forty seconds left, and so much of shooting his confidence.
We've seen Steph Curry going too slumps and then we've
(37:22):
seen Steph Curry where he just throwing it looks like
garbage up.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
And it goes in. You know it there.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
We all remember that Michael Jordan hands out when he
got hot against the Portland Trailblazers. Like Michael was never
a great three point shooter, but shooters get.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Into zones and the three point shot.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Even the Celtics are incredibly streaky, and I know the
math works out, but the Celtics this year, I think
they were when they shot forty percent or more than
were thirty nine to zero. But they didn't about half
the time. I mean a lot of Celtic games they
were just rock city. And I mean I watch at
the end of this game with Philadelphia, it's like embarrassing.
(38:03):
It's like that's it. Go get a bucket.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
What are you doing? It's awful.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Oh and I yesterday we got into something so j Mac.
You haven't moved a lot in your life, but you move.
You moved cross country. You went from the east to
the west coast.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
That qualifies as a large move.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
With two that's one large move.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
But I was saying yesterday, and we'll talk about this
with Nick Wright in the next hour. Frank Isisola is
going to join us from New York. Nick right a
top of the hour. The Aaron Rodgers situation. So the
Steelers come out and the Steeters are like, Okay, we've
got this new tender we're offering. Basically wanted to seize
control of their offseason. Aaron's people, although he would deny it,
(38:47):
suddenly come out.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
There's leaks.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
He's really interested in Arizona. This is the gamesmanship of
the NFL, where Aaron's doing this thing kind of disappears.
The Steelers are like, okay, we played the game. We're
offering a very unique, quirky, rare tender. Show up quickly,
and then Aaron's people are like, Okay, my buddy Nat
Hacketts in Arizona, let's make that now.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
You could say what you want.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
But when I've made my moves in my career, and
I tell my kids this all the time. Grab a
yellow pad, Nope, Patty and a pen. Write things in
your life you want to manifest.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
No, I don't want a computer. I don't want to spreadsheet.
Write it down. Don't talk about it to yourself. Write
it down. Because every time I've moved, I've done a
pro and I just go, oh, I look at it.
I stared it. I want to see it and feel it.
So I did that with Aaron Rodgers. Arizona and Pittsburgh
really interesting. If you do pros and cons, you think
(39:52):
to yourself, well, Steelers are up here.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Arizona is a tire fire.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's fascinating how many vantages there are in Arizona and
how many disadvantages when you dig deep with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Okay, Lebron, good luck, we call him back up.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
Are we sure Arizona wants Aaron Rodgers a little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
More than I think people think?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Wow,
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