June 11, 2026 • 41 mins
Colin Cowherd breaks down the Knicks orchestrating the largest comeback in NBA Finals history after trailing the Spurs by 29 points to take a 3-1 lead in the series
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh day one World Cup hours away?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And what in the world did we watch last night?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I witnessed the hand of God and it was not
Diego Maradona in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Listen too often in my business, our business people blame coaches.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I don't like it. A lot of factors.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
This one though, Oh that loss last night, that's on
Mitch Johnson. Spurs head coach san Antonio was brilliant throwing
up threes in the first half. It felt like they
hit all of them. They raced out to a massive
twenty seven point lead in the garden. And then you
have to coach differently and get into the bonus and
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take higher percentage shots. Feed Wemby down low, get him
closer to the basket. No, Instead, thirteen threes in the
third quarter. Good God, they were in the bonus with
eight minutes left in the fourth, and they took one
shot from that point on San Antonio in the paint.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You've got Wemby. By the way, Wemby.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Played almost the entire second half. He was completely gassed.
You have a double figures lead, one day's rest on
the road. Find him three and a half minutes into
the third quarter. I mean, the guy was gassed. He
gives you such an effort on the defensive end, Daron Fox,
that appears to be a problem. Why does Daron Fox
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have more touches than any other player on your team?
Why is Dylan Harper attempting no shots in the last
ten minutes? Play Fox lesson Dylan Harper more? What is happening?
Get Dylan Harper on the ball. It's called coaching. I
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don't want to pick on Daron Fox. He had a
terrible night. He can't have the most touches. You can't
have Dylan Harper, a sensational young player not having a
shot in the last ten minutes. And what Daron Fox
did with twelve seconds left is inexplicable and inexcusable. He's
a veteran player, he knows better. I mean, just milk
the clock, go to the free throw line and in
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the game. But I mean, I mean, so much of
last night would drive you crazy. Like Wemby is such
a defensive maven, you gotta find him two or three
minutes of rest. He played almost the entire second half.
It'd be one thing if it was a tight game.
You led by double figures, you led by twenty seven
at half. So agent experience matters a lot. And we
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discussed you discussed the Spurs youth being a problem. Not
only was it a problem, but we have to remember
Mitch Johnson's also a rookie. Oh he coached a little
last year, but this is his team. He's a rookie
head coach, first time in the finals, and this has
been ugly. I get blowing leads, it's the three ball era.
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I get blowing leads. But we got to contextualize how
you're blowing him. You can't get Wemby a three to
four minute stretch off. You can't get Dylan Harper a shot.
You're in the bonus with eight minutes left, eight minutes left,
you take one shot in the paint, and you got
the best seven foot four player in the history of
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the sport.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's not just.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And listen, I'm not taking anything away from the Knicks,
but this finals, and I don't think San Antonio can
come back. This finals is going to be about as
much about the Spurs blowing leads as the Knicks winning games.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And that's just.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean, the Spurs up blown five playoff leads, double
digit lead in the playoffs, that's tied for the most. Ever, again,
they're young. I get it. The coach was young. I mean,
they've led in the final two minutes in every game
against the Knicks, and they got one win and it
was a close win. So there were just And again
we too often blame We do this with football coaches
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every week. We blame the refs, so we blame the coach.
It's mostly on the players. But with a young team,
with a super historically young team, they need guidance. Bonus,
eight minutes left. Wemby, get to the brick, get.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To the block.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm up called a time out. I gotta get Dylan
Harper a couple of looks. The Aaron Fox can't have
the most touches. He's having a rough night. I mean,
thirty points in the second half, and I got I mean,
I got talent. I've got the best collection of young
talent in basketball on one team. Spurs have the most
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young talent in the world. You can't give me thirty
points in the second half. Just not good enough. Not
taking anything away from the Knicks, but you have a
twenty seven point lead at half. You've got to coach differently.
You can't be taking jacking up twelve threes. Here was
Wemby after the loss, holding each.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Other accountable, communicating, not putting fingers. And after that we
either got it or we don't. But we've proven that
we can surpass these difficulties. And uh, even though we
haven't been there before, I'm convinced we're built this way
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and we're gonna use it better of this and he's
going to tighten us up.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
All right, let's talk next. So I have said.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And gotten some pushback when people ask me the best
Knixt player, and I have been saying this since the
start of the playoffs. It's not Bronson. He's the best finisher.
OG is their best player. I've talked to scouts and
GMS about OG. I think he's the most underrated player
in the league. Has been perhaps in Toronto as well.
They kind of stolen from Toronto. He is classy, big.
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They just don't build humans that look like that. He'll
d you up. He'll he'll d your three up, He'll
do your five up. He can score. He is I mean,
he is just so unique, so good ons last night
he was magical. Thirty three points, seven threes, sixty seven
percent if you did not see it live. And they
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start these games way too late for all of us.
But I just want to give you the setup. Twenty
seven down at half first, he's got the big three
to cut it to forward. Then he's got the big block,
and then there.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Is this Ananobe far sideline inbound from mid court. Shammit
bridges brunts in towns. All it takes is at two
to make history in New York City. Five point seven left,
no timeouts remaining. Ananobe is handed the ball, finds bruntsing
at midcourt, launches a straight on three. Mister short tippy Ananobi.
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He put it in, Ananobi put it in the next
take the lead with one point.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Sports gives you these moments that if you scripted them
it would feel too contrived. Down twenty seven, Evan Young
spurs crumbling, Josh Hart misses a dunk and one guy
Og from a three to a block to the hand
of Og. A remarkable kid. What a moment. I mean,
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it's like Q the Chariots of Fire music. It felt
like it was in slow mow in real time. And
what I love about this Knicks team is just like
the Nuggets that won a title, or the Celtics, or
the older Warriors or OKC last year. It's not an
all time team. It's an all time run. They've trailed
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with two minutes left in every game, but it is a.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Collection of players.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
None wants to take the credit from previously flaky Cat
to massively undervalue Josh harden Og to the scrappy and
great Jalen Brunson. Even after that tip the biggest basketball
shot in New York in thirty years.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Listen, how humble this kid is.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
You just hit the game winning shot in an NBA
Finals game in front of your home crowd.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
How does that feel?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
It feels cool. I mean everyone's pretty excited. I'm excited
to I'm excited too. We're all excited. We're enjoying it
right now, but we just focused on the next game.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He has the highest true shooting percentage of any player,
any player in the finals since twenty twelve, fourteen years.
And that's his reaction and that tip in was not easy. Okay,
that should be a poster in every town, home and
apartment in New York City for the next decade. Just
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an unbelievable moment. And it's you know what. One of
the reasons this thing works. It's not just because this
next team is not a draft in the developed team.
It's a trade and acchoir team. And one of the
reasons it really works is that their best player. If
you went to every GM in the league and said
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you get one, Nick, I'm telling you, Og is the
one the GMS talk about in a league of three
and D guys, big, strong, physical, humble. The reason this
thing works in New York. I know y'all think it's
Jalen Brunson and he's terrific. It's Og. He's going to
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win the MVP. Six 's eight seven three wingspan, can
defend virtually everybody outside of the point, rebound, tip hit threes, blocks.
I mean, there are just certain times with young athletes
you root for him. And I remember when he got
traded and reading a couple of stories when he got
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traded from the Raptors and the Raptors were well run,
and people are like, did they steal him? Yeah, last
night dating and that kind of stolen. So it was
you know, it's interesting about that Jay Mack. When they
were even when the Knicks were down twenty seven at half,
it wasn't one of those where I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna give this five minutes. I just kept thinking, Okay,
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they've been down double figures in these games because of
the youth. I mean, everybody including the head coach at
young for San Antonio. So there you get real spikes
with San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They're brilliant.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean the first in the first half, if they
threw the ball up from three, it was going in.
They just played a remarkable first half. But as a coach,
you have to realize, even if you had Katie Stephen
Clay in their prime, you don't have four quarters a
brilliant three point shooting. You know, we got to lead, guys.
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We're gonna still be aggressive, but let's get into the bonus.
Let's take higher percentage shots. We'll trade threes for twos.
We're gonna win this game. I thought they almost outthought
the room and thought.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well, we're going to be aggressive, just keep shooting.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's like, guys, that's as well as you're gonna ever
shoot on the road against a good team.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Three pointers.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You had a magical, magical half of basketball. You're not
going to duplicate it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
In New York.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
It was unbelievable that he Mitch Johnson kept Wemby in
the game. He played forty four minutes Colin. They were
leading by twenty for felt like a third of the game.
Wenby played twenty three of twenty four minutes in the
second half, and we talked about his tiredness. Right, only
one day in between games. Three of fourteen shooting in
the second half. Yeah, he didn't have it. And listen,
we don't like to use.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
The word choked. Those two free throws. You could see
it in his face. He was nervous.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
They only missed three free throws as a team, seventeen
or twenty. Wemby missed all three Colins.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah. Well, I mean again, there are times I can
remember watching when Shaq was a Laker and Shaq was
so big, and I remember covering like a Blazer Laker series.
There are these moments where like end of a quarter,
minute and a half left in a quarter. You sit
Shack down with a minute and a half left in
the third, so he gets the minute and a half,
he gets the half break. You keep him out for
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about a minute and a half to two minutes of
the fourth quarter, and you give him a real, like
an eight minute break on his body, and then you're like, Shack,
I need you for like nine and a half minutes
of greatness. That kind of thing when you get a duncan,
when you get a dominant big you have to find
these end of the quarter moments, two and a half
left in a quarter, Get Wenby to the bench, give
him like eight minutes commercials, end of the half, give
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him eight minutes of just hydrate. You can't plan him
that many minutes with that big of a lead. That's
just that's on the staff, all right, And we're gonna
talk a little bit more about Wemby. People are freaking out.
It's the World Cup. What are realistic expectations with the
World Cup?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
We'll address that next. It's the Hurd.
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
Welcome back here now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored
by Incredible Great Rates, None of the bull. So the
NBA has always been about blunders before banners, right, failure
before the happy ending Kobe Lebron MJ, get beat up
NBA in life.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Give you some licks. How do you respond to it?
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Magic he inherited Kareem a little different. Wemby inherited twenty
two wins and the legendary coach that was getting older.
So it was a mess and he has been remarkable.
And last night his coach and the staff in San
Antonio did a major disservice to Wemby. No breaks second
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half with massive leads. You gotta find four minutes, even
if it's just four minutes of real time. But you know,
Picasso's best work was not his first doodle. Their gaps
here with Wemby. You know it, I know it. There
are some limitations. In the final nine and a half
minutes of the fourth he didn't have a rebound or
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an assist. He was minus twenty one. You know, it's
the best way to put it. He's still beta testing
the prototype, not quite ready for the market. I do
think two days rest at home. I don't know what
the line is. I would absolutely take san Antonio. I
think they've got one last great effort. But I think
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what we saw last night is what I've watched my
entire life as an NBA fan, which is this league.
There's a reason this was the youngest team since the
nineteen seventy seven Blazers, who also fell down to nothing. Okay,
there's a reason older players flourish in the postseason. They
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can manipulate the refs, they can manipulate end of game scenarios.
There's a reason older coaches the late Chuck Daily, Popovich,
Kerr and Spolster a guys that have been around pat
Riley can manipulate moments. San Antonio can't. They can just
be really, really good. They just don't have that gear yet.
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Here's another piece of sound from Wemby after the loss.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
What's going through your mind right now?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
What's it going through my mind right now? I think
it's going to go one of two ways, one of
two ways and a bad one and a good one.
And I know the bad one would be up bigreen
one would be getting stronger through this, getting more together,
and I know this is what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
By the way, he gets very comfortable in crucial moments,
settling for threes. He hit a jumper, a two point
jumper with three thirty left spurs by seven, and the
announcers marveled that he actually took a shot inside the arc.
You shouldn't marvel at that. You should question why somebody
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seven to four in a close game lead collapsing is
shooting threes. And again, he's young, you know, in the
absence of great coaching or parenting or management, young people
we have this in college football.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
They make big mistakes.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Coaching is never more important for a team like San
Antonio or those seventy seven Blazers with Jack Ramsey like,
this is when you really need great coaching.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
No, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
To celebrate my Knicks, I brought in the old Patrick
Ewing jersey from my days. You know, I love the Knicks.
And we're gonna start with the Knicks celebrating last night.
And you know who else was celebrating, Colin Tyler Adams
and the US men's national team. They were watching the
craziness unfold. Tyler Adams, longtime Knicks fan. Look at him
going crazy celebrating. He's been he was born in nineteen
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ninety nine. Ironically, that was the last time the Knicks
appeared in the finals. And how about that they had
cameras all over the place, the US men's national team celebrating. Hey,
maybe Knicks fans will be celebrating the USA win over
Paraguay tomorrow at so far. I know you saw this
on social media.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah no, listen it was.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It was a weird regular season and it was a
weird playoff run. You needed some magic in the finals.
And we said when those Spurs won Game three in
New York, that was a little magic, like the final.
Need it that moment. The Finals needed it. I mean
it would have been if the Spurs win by twenty
six last night, that's not you know, we'd have a
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really interesting series. But most finals need a moment. This
is probably the biggest single shot. I'm trying to think
top of my head. When's the last time in the
NBA we had a shot this memorable. Like we've all
seen the MJ shots or the Kobe Deshaq Alupe against
the Blazers Game seven. There's been a handful of great shots.
It's Michael Jordan hanging in the air, Craig Elo of
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the Cavs going by. We've had these magical shots. This
this isn't a This is on a short list of
greatest moments in the Finals in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm serious.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
I mean this game might be the greatest Finals game
in NBA history.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean, no, it wasn't a Game seven Kyrie Game
seven against the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That was a shot. That game was terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Well well, but little Lebron block is one of those
idyllic moments that that's The Lebron block is a top
three moment in the history of Game sevens.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
This is top I think it is it's got to
be up there.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Just unbelievable stuff. All right, let's move to the NFL.
I don't know if you saw this yesterday, Patrick Mahomes
got a reworked contract.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Colin Mahomes became the NFL's first five hundred million dollar man.
It came out of cond of nowhere. Oh, we're just
gonna tweak his contract. Patrick Mahomes had won on social
media and did a post to Chiefs Kingdom, very excited
that he's going nowhere. Colin his contract the new money
added his two hundred and thirty nine million dollars. So
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I have a theory as to why now, but I'll
let you go first.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
What do you think about the five hundred million dollar.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Man, Well, his cap hit next year's only thirty five million.
What they're doing is increasing the money but also simultaneously
increasing flexibility. If that's why he constantly redoes his deal,
That's what I hope Lamar Jackson and his representation understands
that this is a thirty five million dollar cap hit
that allows you, by the way, to have that second
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path us rusher or that second really good wide receiver.
So this is smart business, by the way.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
You know the quarterback market is about to get very frothy.
Lamar's got a new deal coming. But I looked up
who's in line next year. Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels,
after their first three years are eligible for an extension.
They will reset the market. I believe this is the
Chiefs getting ahead of that, Colin, and say, well, those
guys are going to get well over sixty right, they're
going to reset the market. We don't want to be
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anywhere near that. Let's go ahead and give Mahomes new money. Now,
Chiefs are a smart organization.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, always get a head on contracts for stars if
you're curious.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
Now, Patrick Mahomes is one ap y at sixty three million.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Dak is number two, a large number.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Josh Allen and Matt Stafford rounding out the top four.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Final story, Colin, let's go to Baltimore.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Interesting Lamar Jackson news starting to emerge, and it's not
contract related. He's got a new oc in deck, Glen Doyle,
who worked under your guy Ben Johnson last year in Chicago.
Now he's never called plays, but apparently he's writing Lamar
Jackson pretty hard in practice. Here's Lamar talking about being
challenged by his new coach.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
I've been China right now. It's a new system. A
lot of terminology within this system. Nothing really transitioned over
from the last system, just like before, because we had
certain things when we was with Monkey, we brought some
things over from Gero system. You know what I was
comfortable with, what a lot of guys were comfortable with.
But in this system, it's different. You know, it's all
deck and I feel like everybody's hands on, you know,
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we doubt them.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Well interesting, He's talking about an entirely new system and
being challenged by an offensive coordinator who's like.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Younger than you and I.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
And oh, by the way, there's a report in this
Baltimore Sun article that at times Doyle is swearing at
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's something I did not anticipate.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
I'm wondering maybe maybe they realized, hey, we got to
coach this guy hard. But I just wonder with you know,
the new co new head coach, new OC. A lot
of newness for a team within an eleven and a
half point win total.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, that's an under bet for me. I don't know
if Jesse Miner is a head coach. I know he's
a great coordinator. You never know on this stuff. And
you think Tom Coughlin was going to go Boston College
to beat Belichick and Brady in two Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You just don't know. You never know. J Mack with
a news.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Frank I Soola stops by today. Greg Burholter, a former
United States men's National League team coach, is going to
join us Top of the Hour our Super six Top
of the Hour as well. I got to address something
so now you know many of you know this. I
live now in Chicago, go to LA in the fall sometimes,
but live in Chicago, and uh, since I've been here, uh,
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people have come up to me on two stories. First
of all, you're too hard on Caleb Williams. Uh I
got that last football season though I wasn't. And uh,
can you please explain why the Bears early Chicago? Okay,
first of all, it's not guaranteed. I'd say it's by
seventy five twenty five they are leaving. But the mccaskey's
own three hundred and twenty six acres Arlington Heights, which
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is a beautiful area.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
There's a racetrack. They own it. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Hamond, Indiana may get the Bears right over the border.
It is twenty seven miles from where I sit right now.
Arlington Heights is twenty six miles. I'm right in between them,
and I'm in downtown Chicago. They're not moving the thing
to Indianapolis and are not changing the name. I mean,
we know the Raiders left California, we know the Rams
left Saint Louis, we know the Chiefs are moving to
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a different state. It's happening all over sports. This is
the key facet here. To remember, billionaires are not equal.
They just sound rich. The mccaskey's. There are only two
ownership groups that are poor in the league, the Bengals
and Steelers, and we lampoon both. We look at the
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Bengals and Steemers and we're like, spend money on the
right side of the ball. They don't operate like big
league teams. Steve Ballmer has one hundred and forty billion
dollar net worth. The Bears owners have a one point
three billion that is it. The Waltons that own the
Broncos have a networth that is one hundred times higher
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than the mccaskeys, Right, So what's that mean. The mccaskeys
and there are eleven kids, They're gonna take the best
deal financially because they have to. This is not Steve
Ballmer that built the Into It Arena in la entirely
by himself. I'm just gonna build it, and I mean
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they spent a fortune on it. That's not all we
have here. We got eleven kids, a tiny barely billionaires
one point three billion net worth. They're going to do
what's best for the family and they have to to
be viable going forward. Now, obviously Arlington Heights is where
you want to have it. But that's the real story here.
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Don't blame the governor. The governor's basically saying what Ron
Manuel said the former mayor of Chicago, which is, I'm
not going to let FIFA get a blank check. I'm
not going to soak the taxpayers to have soccer games here. Well,
what the governor is saying is basically, we're not soaking
the taxpayers here. They're billionaires. The problem is the governor's
family is significantly richer than the mccaskey's, the Hyatt family,
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the Pritzker family, the governor of the state of Illinois,
that is the fourth richest family in America. Okay, so
very rarely is the governor could buy the owner of
the NFL franchise. So what you have here is a
situation where like this ownership group, they're going to do
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the best deal financially, and if Indiana offers it, they're
taking it. You got Steelers, Bengals, Bears. They don't even
compare with the Broncos or the Niners or the Eagles,
I mean in the in the NFL. The Bidwells are
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significantly more solvent and rich Arizona than the Bears family.
So it's a whole different ballgame going on. You can
blame you blame whoever you want. They're gonna do whatever
they gotta do to get the best deal. This is
not the Waltons with the Broncos, or the Allens with
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the Seahawks, or Stan Kronkey, I mean Stan Kronky. To
show you how much money Stan Cronky has, he is
the I think he's the biggest commercial or residential real
estate owner in the world. At one point they had
like a three billion dollar overrun for so far he's like,
where's the checkbook the Raiders. Meanwhile, Mark Davis had to
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take on three new owners, you know, basically to have
the kind of money in the off season in the
bank account to go buy great free agents. So you
get all billionaires are not equal. Governor Mike Brawn last
week on the Bears potentially moving right across the border,
which is closer to downtown Chicago and South Chicago than
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Arlington Heights.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Here's the governor of Indiana.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Well, what I would say to everybody in the central
part of Chicago and South which I've got a feeling
a preponderance of the fans come from. It's going to
be easier to come to Hammond because you're coming in
by train, by any way you choose to do it,
it would take less time than going from Soldiers Field
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up to Arlington Heights. So yes, for some folks Center
North it'll be a little different, but you've got ways
there with your train system. We've got now trains that
go right near where the stadium's gonna be built. And
plus once you get there, you're gonna have elbow room.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, listen, it's not ideal, but this is the reality
of ownerships. Groups in all of sports. When I was
in Los Angeles, I always said, I have Steve Ballmer.
The bus family that owned the Lakers, they had no money.
They had to sell. They literally had to They had
no scouting department, they had no analytics department. I'm not
making that up. You can read it like like Rob Polenka,
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a former agent. People are like, man, He's made a
lot of mistakes here and there. He didn't have half
the staff of like the seventy six ers. He didn't
have half the staff of the Warriors. You'll find a
lot of times the great drafting teams are really well funded.
Not all billionaires are the same. The Lakers were really
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a mom and pop shop. The Bengals are, the Steelers
are the Chicago Bears. Sound wealthy, they sound big, They're not.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
They are not. All right?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Some of you freaking out about Taylor Swift. United States
Men's national team. We'll talk about that top of the
hour and what's realistic for the World Cup.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 8 (30:17):
The US men's national team kicks off their World Cup
dream tomorrow night in LA coverage begins at six pm Eastern,
with the match at nine only on Fox Listen.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
There's a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I'm reading an article this morning on the five biggest
questions about the United States men's national team heading into
the World Cup, and the number one question is what's realistic?
What is a realistic expectation. We've got thirteen players that
are playing overseas, so the composition of our roster is
the most talented ever. We are also bringing back a
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large percentage of our players who are in the previous
World Cup, our best players.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's an advantage.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Even the greatest football countries, nations, they ebb and flow,
they get really old or they're too young. We were
too young four years ago. Now we have a majority
of our players heading into their prime or in it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So we have to win the group stage.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It's arguably because we're on home soil, and remember we
get a travel advantage. We're just playing out west. We
don't have to go east, we don't have to go
down to Houston. We're playing out west, so we got
a very advantageous group Turkey, Paraguay, Australia. We are favor
to win and should be home soil. That helps, and
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we're bringing back a large percentage of our best players.
Then we go to the knockout round of thirty two
and there's sixteen additional countries in this thing, and they
didn't exactly invite powerhouses. We invited sixteen other countries. We
should be able to beat those countries here, so you
could reasonably expect us to win the group stage. But
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we were looking this morning at a possible opponent because
you think to yourself, well, we got to win one
game in the group stage. Possible, but we could very
easily match up with Belgium. Belgium's rated FIFA ratings ninth
in the world. We are seventeenth. You may remember Belgium.
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They hammered us in late March. We gave up the
most goals, five we've given up in thirty two matches.
Belgium is on a heater. They've beaten us six stra
eight times. They've won their last thirteen matches, outscored their
opponent seven to nothing in the last two matches. That
could be our first round opponent in the knockout stage. Okay,
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so people freak out about this. We're getting a little
bit of a schedule advantage and a group stage advantage
and soccer, like any other sport, especially like the Spurs
with a pretty young team, confidence and vibe is really
really important. So playing well in the group stage, we're
not gonna win if we don't have the back end.
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Our defense is suspect. You saw it against Germany, Okay,
we need to score. Good news is we have the
most aggressive and skilled playmakers we've ever had, kind.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Of by a long shot. So but what is realistic?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Just we could be facing Belgium in the knockout stage,
we would not be favored. They humiliated us five goals
on us in late March. So the group stage, the vibe,
the momentum is a real thing. You got to get
it and seize it quickly. Here's Kobe Jones yesterday on
the pressure playing on home soil and playing in the
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World Cup.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Anybody that puts on that jersey has the US badge
on there, you're going to feel pressure, especially when you're at.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Home and we have this.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
You know, we're a host nation for this World Cup.
So I think there's going to be pressure on these
young men today. They're gonna feel it. I felt it,
you know, without a doubt, because you know your family
and friends. You know, they're all you know in the stands,
and there's going to be it's a little bit more
hyper intensive, you know, when you're in your home country,
and that you know that every news organization, every press organization.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Is going to be reporting on what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
So I want to go back to the NBA Finals
because I think this is instructive. I think this is important.
Fans always tend to think, and sometimes the media falls
for it. My team is great. I think last night
in this series in general, is a reminder that the
Knicks aren't great.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
It is a great run.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's very much like the Warriors team that won with
Andrew Wiggins playing well. The Nuggets team, Okay, see last year.
There are elements to okay, see their depth, their defense
that we're elite. There are elements to the Knicks, their
fourth quarter production that all historically elite. But to be
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down at home by twenty seven against the youngest team
to be in the finals in fifty years, they are
not a great team. They have great elements, And partly,
you know, it's interesting, Taylor Swift was at the game
and people freak out, and I don't know, I don't know.
Why she's some touchstone for fans.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Guys, time to get over it.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I do like the fact that when I watch Nick games,
we don't need thirty Sacramentos. It is okay to have
arenas that have celebrities and have a vibe.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
It's okay if cable TV has a far left network
and a far right network, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
We're all good. Give me choices.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I like watching Knicks games more than I like right
now in the NBA watching any other game. First of all,
the team's smart, they're really smart team. They're fun, they're great, late,
they're clutch. I like all the celebrities. I think it's cool.
I think it's fun. I've had about as much Spike
Lee as I need in a lifetime. But whatever, he
seems like a nice guy. Timothy Shallow may But I mean,
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OKAC and New York have great fans. Both blame the
officials when they lose. But I think one of the
things I've said for year is European soccer in the
NBA style matters, esthetic matters, and I mean, don't kid
yourself the players. Notice that Al Harrington was on our
show earlier this week talking about he played for the Knicks.
He was a visitor, he wasn't Nick and he talked
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about it's different there.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
Some about just playing on Broadway. Man, it's just you know,
the celebrities there.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
You know.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
I always say it was some about the lighting, right,
you know, out of all the arenas in the league,
like the way that the garden is set up is
like a stage, you know what I'm saying. So you
don't get that environment anywhere but New York. And when
you come, you know, like you got to bring your
a game when you're gonna hear about.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It, you hear this all the time. Well, they're not
true fans, those celebrities. That's not a criteria. Nobody takes
a basketball quiz to sit in the first row, that's
that's not These are busy, successful people, they're famous people,
and they get they get tickets. I mean Ben Siller
said that he didn't even have to pay for him.
They just give them to him.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
That's James Dolan's call. I you know, they they may
not be real fans, but they have real influence and
I think it's a great vibe. When Miami played Indiana
years ago, I don't know if it was the Eastern
Conference Finals, but it was the lebron facing the Pacers
and Paul George I thought it was actually entertaining. You'd
watch the Indiana fans and they were in T shirts,
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and I mean just it looked so Midwest. And then
you'd go down and they'd play in Miami and everybody
was wearing white and you know, a button unbuttoned one
men and women, probably two buttons more than they should
have unbuttoned. And it was like, oh, wow, this is
inappropriate kind of I'm good with it. I like watching it.
I like the Knicks, I like the crowd, I like
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the celebrities. It's okay, I got nothing against Sacramento. We
don't need thirty of them, you know. And J Mack
just happens to be a Knicks fan. What can we do?
I you you believe, So let's just make sure we're
on the same page. You like San Antonio to win
in a route next game?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, I already bet it. Uh yeah, so I think
this is going seven.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Let me I'll just lay it out with two days
off for Wemby in between the rest of the games. Yes,
the Spurs are gonna be live now, they said where
it gets crazy. So he got that flagrant last night.
If he gets another flagrant point he suspended for a game. Colin,
we know wem ben Yama's a little awkward, he falls down,
He's got long limbs. Nicks are trying to get. Is
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there a world where wen ben Yamas suspended? If there's
a game seven? Can you imagine that?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
First of all, you he was accidental last night, he
got a flagrant.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
I don't know if they'll take it away that wasn't
on purpose where he hit cat with the elbow.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, I mean I think I don't think the officials
want that to happen. You know, we've said this before.
You never see pass interference called on hail marriage holding
in the super You never see that. What you never
see what you could call holding on almost every hail Mary.
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Fans don't want to hear this officiating a situational. You know,
it's like if you get to the tenth round of
a fight, the tenth and final round, and you got
two warriors have been going at it for an hour
and one guy's in trouble and there's fifteen seconds left,
the referee is gonna let it go, Like in the
fourth round. If it's ugly pitbull to a beach ball,
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you call it. But if there's fifty I've been at
fights like that. If there's fifteen seconds left, we're gonna
let it go. We're just gonna let it go. Life
is situational. There's a reason cops aren't pulling people over
for speeding in rush hour. Okay, they're doing it late
at night, off hours, noon, they'll pull you over on
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the freeway four h five. They're not doing it at
rush hour morning.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Dry. It's crowded enough. Let's not jam it up. Let's
keep it moving.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Remember the Draymond Green suspension for one game in that
twenty sixteen Finals that helped the Cavs come back from
down three to one.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
What his was really over the top? Yeah, and he's
a crazy person, we know. Sorry Draymond.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
By the way, this Taylor Swift stuff, I did not
know people were bashing Taylor Swift for being at the
next game, and.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I just had to look that up.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
I'm like, what is wrong with people? And listen, I
know they went a little over the top. ESPN the
game winning shot tipped in and they showed a bunch
of celebrities they didn't even show Jalen Brunson, Like, I
don't know what Jalen Brunson's reaction was because they were
showing Larry David and Seinfeld. That was a little bit much.
But whatever, this is a vibe. This is We're gonna
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probably getting twenty five million viewers.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Let's just game.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I yeah, I mean, it's a thing. It doesn't bother
me at all, I think, And I also think. It's
an urban downtown New York, Penn Station, Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
It's a different environment.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
A lot of these stadiums now are in the boonies,
they're out in the birds. This is a true people
walk to this. I mean it's people take the train
or they walk to it.
Speaker 8 (41:09):
And let's remember Colin. The NFL has Giants and Jets.
The town is split, the Yankees and Mets. The town
is split. New York is a nick city. There's no
Brooklyn Nets fans.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Our number two World Cup about to begin,
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh day one World Cup hours away?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And what in the world did we watch last night?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I witnessed the hand of God and it was not
Diego Maradona in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Listen too often in my business, our business people blame coaches.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I don't like it. A lot of factors.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
This one though, Oh that loss last night, that's on
Mitch Johnson. Spurs head coach san Antonio was brilliant throwing
up threes in the first half. It felt like they
hit all of them. They raced out to a massive
twenty seven point lead in the garden. And then you
have to coach differently and get into the bonus and
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take higher percentage shots. Feed Wemby down low, get him
closer to the basket. No, Instead, thirteen threes in the
third quarter. Good God, they were in the bonus with
eight minutes left in the fourth, and they took one
shot from that point on San Antonio in the paint.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You've got Wemby. By the way, Wemby.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Played almost the entire second half. He was completely gassed.
You have a double figures lead, one day's rest on
the road. Find him three and a half minutes into
the third quarter. I mean, the guy was gassed. He
gives you such an effort on the defensive end, Daron Fox,
that appears to be a problem. Why does Daron Fox
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have more touches than any other player on your team?
Why is Dylan Harper attempting no shots in the last
ten minutes? Play Fox lesson Dylan Harper more? What is happening?
Get Dylan Harper on the ball. It's called coaching. I
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don't want to pick on Daron Fox. He had a
terrible night. He can't have the most touches. You can't
have Dylan Harper, a sensational young player not having a
shot in the last ten minutes. And what Daron Fox
did with twelve seconds left is inexplicable and inexcusable. He's
a veteran player, he knows better. I mean, just milk
the clock, go to the free throw line and in
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the game. But I mean, I mean, so much of
last night would drive you crazy. Like Wemby is such
a defensive maven, you gotta find him two or three
minutes of rest. He played almost the entire second half.
It'd be one thing if it was a tight game.
You led by double figures, you led by twenty seven
at half. So agent experience matters a lot. And we
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discussed you discussed the Spurs youth being a problem. Not
only was it a problem, but we have to remember
Mitch Johnson's also a rookie. Oh he coached a little
last year, but this is his team. He's a rookie
head coach, first time in the finals, and this has
been ugly. I get blowing leads, it's the three ball era.
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I get blowing leads. But we got to contextualize how
you're blowing him. You can't get Wemby a three to
four minute stretch off. You can't get Dylan Harper a shot.
You're in the bonus with eight minutes left, eight minutes left,
you take one shot in the paint, and you got
the best seven foot four player in the history of
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the sport.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's not just.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And listen, I'm not taking anything away from the Knicks,
but this finals, and I don't think San Antonio can
come back. This finals is going to be about as
much about the Spurs blowing leads as the Knicks winning games.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And that's just.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean, the Spurs up blown five playoff leads, double
digit lead in the playoffs, that's tied for the most. Ever, again,
they're young. I get it. The coach was young. I mean,
they've led in the final two minutes in every game
against the Knicks, and they got one win and it
was a close win. So there were just And again
we too often blame We do this with football coaches
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every week. We blame the refs, so we blame the coach.
It's mostly on the players. But with a young team,
with a super historically young team, they need guidance. Bonus,
eight minutes left. Wemby, get to the brick, get.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To the block.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm up called a time out. I gotta get Dylan
Harper a couple of looks. The Aaron Fox can't have
the most touches. He's having a rough night. I mean,
thirty points in the second half, and I got I mean,
I got talent. I've got the best collection of young
talent in basketball on one team. Spurs have the most
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young talent in the world. You can't give me thirty
points in the second half. Just not good enough. Not
taking anything away from the Knicks, but you have a
twenty seven point lead at half. You've got to coach differently.
You can't be taking jacking up twelve threes. Here was
Wemby after the loss, holding each.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Other accountable, communicating, not putting fingers. And after that we
either got it or we don't. But we've proven that
we can surpass these difficulties. And uh, even though we
haven't been there before, I'm convinced we're built this way
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and we're gonna use it better of this and he's
going to tighten us up.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
All right, let's talk next. So I have said.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And gotten some pushback when people ask me the best
Knixt player, and I have been saying this since the
start of the playoffs. It's not Bronson. He's the best finisher.
OG is their best player. I've talked to scouts and
GMS about OG. I think he's the most underrated player
in the league. Has been perhaps in Toronto as well.
They kind of stolen from Toronto. He is classy, big.
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They just don't build humans that look like that. He'll
d you up. He'll he'll d your three up, He'll
do your five up. He can score. He is I mean,
he is just so unique, so good ons last night
he was magical. Thirty three points, seven threes, sixty seven
percent if you did not see it live. And they
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start these games way too late for all of us.
But I just want to give you the setup. Twenty
seven down at half first, he's got the big three
to cut it to forward. Then he's got the big block,
and then there.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Is this Ananobe far sideline inbound from mid court. Shammit
bridges brunts in towns. All it takes is at two
to make history in New York City. Five point seven left,
no timeouts remaining. Ananobe is handed the ball, finds bruntsing
at midcourt, launches a straight on three. Mister short tippy Ananobi.
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He put it in, Ananobi put it in the next
take the lead with one point.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Sports gives you these moments that if you scripted them
it would feel too contrived. Down twenty seven, Evan Young
spurs crumbling, Josh Hart misses a dunk and one guy
Og from a three to a block to the hand
of Og. A remarkable kid. What a moment. I mean,
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it's like Q the Chariots of Fire music. It felt
like it was in slow mow in real time. And
what I love about this Knicks team is just like
the Nuggets that won a title, or the Celtics, or
the older Warriors or OKC last year. It's not an
all time team. It's an all time run. They've trailed
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with two minutes left in every game, but it is a.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Collection of players.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
None wants to take the credit from previously flaky Cat
to massively undervalue Josh harden Og to the scrappy and
great Jalen Brunson. Even after that tip the biggest basketball
shot in New York in thirty years.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Listen, how humble this kid is.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
You just hit the game winning shot in an NBA
Finals game in front of your home crowd.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
How does that feel?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
It feels cool. I mean everyone's pretty excited. I'm excited
to I'm excited too. We're all excited. We're enjoying it
right now, but we just focused on the next game.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He has the highest true shooting percentage of any player,
any player in the finals since twenty twelve, fourteen years.
And that's his reaction and that tip in was not easy. Okay,
that should be a poster in every town, home and
apartment in New York City for the next decade. Just
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an unbelievable moment. And it's you know what. One of
the reasons this thing works. It's not just because this
next team is not a draft in the developed team.
It's a trade and acchoir team. And one of the
reasons it really works is that their best player. If
you went to every GM in the league and said
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you get one, Nick, I'm telling you, Og is the
one the GMS talk about in a league of three
and D guys, big, strong, physical, humble. The reason this
thing works in New York. I know y'all think it's
Jalen Brunson and he's terrific. It's Og. He's going to
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win the MVP. Six 's eight seven three wingspan, can
defend virtually everybody outside of the point, rebound, tip hit threes, blocks.
I mean, there are just certain times with young athletes
you root for him. And I remember when he got
traded and reading a couple of stories when he got
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traded from the Raptors and the Raptors were well run,
and people are like, did they steal him? Yeah, last
night dating and that kind of stolen. So it was
you know, it's interesting about that Jay Mack. When they
were even when the Knicks were down twenty seven at half,
it wasn't one of those where I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna give this five minutes. I just kept thinking, Okay,
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they've been down double figures in these games because of
the youth. I mean, everybody including the head coach at
young for San Antonio. So there you get real spikes
with San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They're brilliant.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean the first in the first half, if they
threw the ball up from three, it was going in.
They just played a remarkable first half. But as a coach,
you have to realize, even if you had Katie Stephen
Clay in their prime, you don't have four quarters a
brilliant three point shooting. You know, we got to lead, guys.
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We're gonna still be aggressive, but let's get into the bonus.
Let's take higher percentage shots. We'll trade threes for twos.
We're gonna win this game. I thought they almost outthought
the room and thought.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well, we're going to be aggressive, just keep shooting.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's like, guys, that's as well as you're gonna ever
shoot on the road against a good team.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Three pointers.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You had a magical, magical half of basketball. You're not
going to duplicate it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
In New York.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
It was unbelievable that he Mitch Johnson kept Wemby in
the game. He played forty four minutes Colin. They were
leading by twenty for felt like a third of the game.
Wenby played twenty three of twenty four minutes in the
second half, and we talked about his tiredness. Right, only
one day in between games. Three of fourteen shooting in
the second half. Yeah, he didn't have it. And listen,
we don't like to use.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
The word choked. Those two free throws. You could see
it in his face. He was nervous.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
They only missed three free throws as a team, seventeen
or twenty. Wemby missed all three Colins.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah. Well, I mean again, there are times I can
remember watching when Shaq was a Laker and Shaq was
so big, and I remember covering like a Blazer Laker series.
There are these moments where like end of a quarter,
minute and a half left in a quarter. You sit
Shack down with a minute and a half left in
the third, so he gets the minute and a half,
he gets the half break. You keep him out for
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about a minute and a half to two minutes of
the fourth quarter, and you give him a real, like
an eight minute break on his body, and then you're like, Shack,
I need you for like nine and a half minutes
of greatness. That kind of thing when you get a duncan,
when you get a dominant big you have to find
these end of the quarter moments, two and a half
left in a quarter, Get Wenby to the bench, give
him like eight minutes commercials, end of the half, give
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him eight minutes of just hydrate. You can't plan him
that many minutes with that big of a lead. That's
just that's on the staff, all right, And we're gonna
talk a little bit more about Wemby. People are freaking out.
It's the World Cup. What are realistic expectations with the
World Cup?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
We'll address that next. It's the Hurd.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
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Welcome back here now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored
by Incredible Great Rates, None of the bull. So the
NBA has always been about blunders before banners, right, failure
before the happy ending Kobe Lebron MJ, get beat up
NBA in life.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Give you some licks. How do you respond to it?
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Magic he inherited Kareem a little different. Wemby inherited twenty
two wins and the legendary coach that was getting older.
So it was a mess and he has been remarkable.
And last night his coach and the staff in San
Antonio did a major disservice to Wemby. No breaks second
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half with massive leads. You gotta find four minutes, even
if it's just four minutes of real time. But you know,
Picasso's best work was not his first doodle. Their gaps
here with Wemby. You know it, I know it. There
are some limitations. In the final nine and a half
minutes of the fourth he didn't have a rebound or
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an assist. He was minus twenty one. You know, it's
the best way to put it. He's still beta testing
the prototype, not quite ready for the market. I do
think two days rest at home. I don't know what
the line is. I would absolutely take san Antonio. I
think they've got one last great effort. But I think
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what we saw last night is what I've watched my
entire life as an NBA fan, which is this league.
There's a reason this was the youngest team since the
nineteen seventy seven Blazers, who also fell down to nothing. Okay,
there's a reason older players flourish in the postseason. They
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can manipulate the refs, they can manipulate end of game scenarios.
There's a reason older coaches the late Chuck Daily, Popovich,
Kerr and Spolster a guys that have been around pat
Riley can manipulate moments. San Antonio can't. They can just
be really, really good. They just don't have that gear yet.
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Here's another piece of sound from Wemby after the loss.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
What's going through your mind right now?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
What's it going through my mind right now? I think
it's going to go one of two ways, one of
two ways and a bad one and a good one.
And I know the bad one would be up bigreen
one would be getting stronger through this, getting more together,
and I know this is what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
By the way, he gets very comfortable in crucial moments,
settling for threes. He hit a jumper, a two point
jumper with three thirty left spurs by seven, and the
announcers marveled that he actually took a shot inside the arc.
You shouldn't marvel at that. You should question why somebody
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seven to four in a close game lead collapsing is
shooting threes. And again, he's young, you know, in the
absence of great coaching or parenting or management, young people
we have this in college football.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
They make big mistakes.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Coaching is never more important for a team like San
Antonio or those seventy seven Blazers with Jack Ramsey like,
this is when you really need great coaching.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
No, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
To celebrate my Knicks, I brought in the old Patrick
Ewing jersey from my days. You know, I love the Knicks.
And we're gonna start with the Knicks celebrating last night.
And you know who else was celebrating, Colin Tyler Adams
and the US men's national team. They were watching the
craziness unfold. Tyler Adams, longtime Knicks fan. Look at him
going crazy celebrating. He's been he was born in nineteen
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ninety nine. Ironically, that was the last time the Knicks
appeared in the finals. And how about that they had
cameras all over the place, the US men's national team celebrating. Hey,
maybe Knicks fans will be celebrating the USA win over
Paraguay tomorrow at so far. I know you saw this
on social media.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah no, listen it was.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It was a weird regular season and it was a
weird playoff run. You needed some magic in the finals.
And we said when those Spurs won Game three in
New York, that was a little magic, like the final.
Need it that moment. The Finals needed it. I mean
it would have been if the Spurs win by twenty
six last night, that's not you know, we'd have a
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really interesting series. But most finals need a moment. This
is probably the biggest single shot. I'm trying to think
top of my head. When's the last time in the
NBA we had a shot this memorable. Like we've all
seen the MJ shots or the Kobe Deshaq Alupe against
the Blazers Game seven. There's been a handful of great shots.
It's Michael Jordan hanging in the air, Craig Elo of
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the Cavs going by. We've had these magical shots. This
this isn't a This is on a short list of
greatest moments in the Finals in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm serious.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
I mean this game might be the greatest Finals game
in NBA history.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean, no, it wasn't a Game seven Kyrie Game
seven against the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That was a shot. That game was terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Well well, but little Lebron block is one of those
idyllic moments that that's The Lebron block is a top
three moment in the history of Game sevens.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
This is top I think it is it's got to
be up there.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Just unbelievable stuff. All right, let's move to the NFL.
I don't know if you saw this yesterday, Patrick Mahomes
got a reworked contract.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Colin Mahomes became the NFL's first five hundred million dollar man.
It came out of cond of nowhere. Oh, we're just
gonna tweak his contract. Patrick Mahomes had won on social
media and did a post to Chiefs Kingdom, very excited
that he's going nowhere. Colin his contract the new money
added his two hundred and thirty nine million dollars. So
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I have a theory as to why now, but I'll
let you go first.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
What do you think about the five hundred million dollar.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Man, Well, his cap hit next year's only thirty five million.
What they're doing is increasing the money but also simultaneously
increasing flexibility. If that's why he constantly redoes his deal,
That's what I hope Lamar Jackson and his representation understands
that this is a thirty five million dollar cap hit
that allows you, by the way, to have that second
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path us rusher or that second really good wide receiver.
So this is smart business, by the way.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
You know the quarterback market is about to get very frothy.
Lamar's got a new deal coming. But I looked up
who's in line next year. Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels,
after their first three years are eligible for an extension.
They will reset the market. I believe this is the
Chiefs getting ahead of that, Colin, and say, well, those
guys are going to get well over sixty right, they're
going to reset the market. We don't want to be
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anywhere near that. Let's go ahead and give Mahomes new money. Now,
Chiefs are a smart organization.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, always get a head on contracts for stars if
you're curious.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
Now, Patrick Mahomes is one ap y at sixty three million.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Dak is number two, a large number.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Josh Allen and Matt Stafford rounding out the top four.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Final story, Colin, let's go to Baltimore.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Interesting Lamar Jackson news starting to emerge, and it's not
contract related. He's got a new oc in deck, Glen Doyle,
who worked under your guy Ben Johnson last year in Chicago.
Now he's never called plays, but apparently he's writing Lamar
Jackson pretty hard in practice. Here's Lamar talking about being
challenged by his new coach.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
I've been China right now. It's a new system. A
lot of terminology within this system. Nothing really transitioned over
from the last system, just like before, because we had
certain things when we was with Monkey, we brought some
things over from Gero system. You know what I was
comfortable with, what a lot of guys were comfortable with.
But in this system, it's different. You know, it's all
deck and I feel like everybody's hands on, you know,
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we doubt them.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Well interesting, He's talking about an entirely new system and
being challenged by an offensive coordinator who's like.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Younger than you and I.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
And oh, by the way, there's a report in this
Baltimore Sun article that at times Doyle is swearing at
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's something I did not anticipate.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
I'm wondering maybe maybe they realized, hey, we got to
coach this guy hard. But I just wonder with you know,
the new co new head coach, new OC. A lot
of newness for a team within an eleven and a
half point win total.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, that's an under bet for me. I don't know
if Jesse Miner is a head coach. I know he's
a great coordinator. You never know on this stuff. And
you think Tom Coughlin was going to go Boston College
to beat Belichick and Brady in two Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You just don't know. You never know. J Mack with
a news.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Frank I Soola stops by today. Greg Burholter, a former
United States men's National League team coach, is going to
join us Top of the Hour our Super six Top
of the Hour as well. I got to address something
so now you know many of you know this. I
live now in Chicago, go to LA in the fall sometimes,
but live in Chicago, and uh, since I've been here, uh,
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people have come up to me on two stories. First
of all, you're too hard on Caleb Williams. Uh I
got that last football season though I wasn't. And uh,
can you please explain why the Bears early Chicago? Okay,
first of all, it's not guaranteed. I'd say it's by
seventy five twenty five they are leaving. But the mccaskey's
own three hundred and twenty six acres Arlington Heights, which
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is a beautiful area.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
There's a racetrack. They own it. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Hamond, Indiana may get the Bears right over the border.
It is twenty seven miles from where I sit right now.
Arlington Heights is twenty six miles. I'm right in between them,
and I'm in downtown Chicago. They're not moving the thing
to Indianapolis and are not changing the name. I mean,
we know the Raiders left California, we know the Rams
left Saint Louis, we know the Chiefs are moving to
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a different state. It's happening all over sports. This is
the key facet here. To remember, billionaires are not equal.
They just sound rich. The mccaskey's. There are only two
ownership groups that are poor in the league, the Bengals
and Steelers, and we lampoon both. We look at the
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Bengals and Steemers and we're like, spend money on the
right side of the ball. They don't operate like big
league teams. Steve Ballmer has one hundred and forty billion
dollar net worth. The Bears owners have a one point
three billion that is it. The Waltons that own the
Broncos have a networth that is one hundred times higher
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than the mccaskeys, Right, So what's that mean. The mccaskeys
and there are eleven kids, They're gonna take the best
deal financially because they have to. This is not Steve
Ballmer that built the Into It Arena in la entirely
by himself. I'm just gonna build it, and I mean
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they spent a fortune on it. That's not all we
have here. We got eleven kids, a tiny barely billionaires
one point three billion net worth. They're going to do
what's best for the family and they have to to
be viable going forward. Now, obviously Arlington Heights is where
you want to have it. But that's the real story here.
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Don't blame the governor. The governor's basically saying what Ron
Manuel said the former mayor of Chicago, which is, I'm
not going to let FIFA get a blank check. I'm
not going to soak the taxpayers to have soccer games here. Well,
what the governor is saying is basically, we're not soaking
the taxpayers here. They're billionaires. The problem is the governor's
family is significantly richer than the mccaskey's, the Hyatt family,
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the Pritzker family, the governor of the state of Illinois,
that is the fourth richest family in America. Okay, so
very rarely is the governor could buy the owner of
the NFL franchise. So what you have here is a
situation where like this ownership group, they're going to do
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the best deal financially, and if Indiana offers it, they're
taking it. You got Steelers, Bengals, Bears. They don't even
compare with the Broncos or the Niners or the Eagles,
I mean in the in the NFL. The Bidwells are
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significantly more solvent and rich Arizona than the Bears family.
So it's a whole different ballgame going on. You can
blame you blame whoever you want. They're gonna do whatever
they gotta do to get the best deal. This is
not the Waltons with the Broncos, or the Allens with
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the Seahawks, or Stan Kronkey, I mean Stan Kronky. To
show you how much money Stan Cronky has, he is
the I think he's the biggest commercial or residential real
estate owner in the world. At one point they had
like a three billion dollar overrun for so far he's like,
where's the checkbook the Raiders. Meanwhile, Mark Davis had to
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take on three new owners, you know, basically to have
the kind of money in the off season in the
bank account to go buy great free agents. So you
get all billionaires are not equal. Governor Mike Brawn last
week on the Bears potentially moving right across the border,
which is closer to downtown Chicago and South Chicago than
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Arlington Heights.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Here's the governor of Indiana.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Well, what I would say to everybody in the central
part of Chicago and South which I've got a feeling
a preponderance of the fans come from. It's going to
be easier to come to Hammond because you're coming in
by train, by any way you choose to do it,
it would take less time than going from Soldiers Field
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up to Arlington Heights. So yes, for some folks Center
North it'll be a little different, but you've got ways
there with your train system. We've got now trains that
go right near where the stadium's gonna be built. And
plus once you get there, you're gonna have elbow room.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, listen, it's not ideal, but this is the reality
of ownerships. Groups in all of sports. When I was
in Los Angeles, I always said, I have Steve Ballmer.
The bus family that owned the Lakers, they had no money.
They had to sell. They literally had to They had
no scouting department, they had no analytics department. I'm not
making that up. You can read it like like Rob Polenka,
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a former agent. People are like, man, He's made a
lot of mistakes here and there. He didn't have half
the staff of like the seventy six ers. He didn't
have half the staff of the Warriors. You'll find a
lot of times the great drafting teams are really well funded.
Not all billionaires are the same. The Lakers were really
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a mom and pop shop. The Bengals are, the Steelers
are the Chicago Bears. Sound wealthy, they sound big, They're not.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
They are not. All right?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Some of you freaking out about Taylor Swift. United States
Men's national team. We'll talk about that top of the
hour and what's realistic for the World Cup.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and Neon Easter non a em Pacific.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
The US men's national team kicks off their World Cup
dream tomorrow night in LA coverage begins at six pm Eastern,
with the match at nine only on Fox Listen.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
There's a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I'm reading an article this morning on the five biggest
questions about the United States men's national team heading into
the World Cup, and the number one question is what's realistic?
What is a realistic expectation. We've got thirteen players that
are playing overseas, so the composition of our roster is
the most talented ever. We are also bringing back a
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large percentage of our players who are in the previous
World Cup, our best players.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's an advantage.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Even the greatest football countries, nations, they ebb and flow,
they get really old or they're too young. We were
too young four years ago. Now we have a majority
of our players heading into their prime or in it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So we have to win the group stage.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It's arguably because we're on home soil, and remember we
get a travel advantage. We're just playing out west. We
don't have to go east, we don't have to go
down to Houston. We're playing out west, so we got
a very advantageous group Turkey, Paraguay, Australia. We are favor
to win and should be home soil. That helps, and
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we're bringing back a large percentage of our best players.
Then we go to the knockout round of thirty two
and there's sixteen additional countries in this thing, and they
didn't exactly invite powerhouses. We invited sixteen other countries. We
should be able to beat those countries here, so you
could reasonably expect us to win the group stage. But
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we were looking this morning at a possible opponent because
you think to yourself, well, we got to win one
game in the group stage. Possible, but we could very
easily match up with Belgium. Belgium's rated FIFA ratings ninth
in the world. We are seventeenth. You may remember Belgium.
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They hammered us in late March. We gave up the
most goals, five we've given up in thirty two matches.
Belgium is on a heater. They've beaten us six stra
eight times. They've won their last thirteen matches, outscored their
opponent seven to nothing in the last two matches. That
could be our first round opponent in the knockout stage. Okay,
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so people freak out about this. We're getting a little
bit of a schedule advantage and a group stage advantage
and soccer, like any other sport, especially like the Spurs
with a pretty young team, confidence and vibe is really
really important. So playing well in the group stage, we're
not gonna win if we don't have the back end.
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Our defense is suspect. You saw it against Germany, Okay,
we need to score. Good news is we have the
most aggressive and skilled playmakers we've ever had, kind.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Of by a long shot. So but what is realistic?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Just we could be facing Belgium in the knockout stage,
we would not be favored. They humiliated us five goals
on us in late March. So the group stage, the vibe,
the momentum is a real thing. You got to get
it and seize it quickly. Here's Kobe Jones yesterday on
the pressure playing on home soil and playing in the
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World Cup.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Anybody that puts on that jersey has the US badge
on there, you're going to feel pressure, especially when you're at.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Home and we have this.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
You know, we're a host nation for this World Cup.
So I think there's going to be pressure on these
young men today. They're gonna feel it. I felt it,
you know, without a doubt, because you know your family
and friends. You know, they're all you know in the stands,
and there's going to be it's a little bit more
hyper intensive, you know, when you're in your home country,
and that you know that every news organization, every press organization.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Is going to be reporting on what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
So I want to go back to the NBA Finals
because I think this is instructive. I think this is important.
Fans always tend to think, and sometimes the media falls
for it. My team is great. I think last night
in this series in general, is a reminder that the
Knicks aren't great.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
It is a great run.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's very much like the Warriors team that won with
Andrew Wiggins playing well. The Nuggets team, Okay, see last year.
There are elements to okay, see their depth, their defense
that we're elite. There are elements to the Knicks, their
fourth quarter production that all historically elite. But to be
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down at home by twenty seven against the youngest team
to be in the finals in fifty years, they are
not a great team. They have great elements, And partly,
you know, it's interesting, Taylor Swift was at the game
and people freak out, and I don't know, I don't know.
Why she's some touchstone for fans.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Guys, time to get over it.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I do like the fact that when I watch Nick games,
we don't need thirty Sacramentos. It is okay to have
arenas that have celebrities and have a vibe.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
It's okay if cable TV has a far left network
and a far right network, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
We're all good. Give me choices.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I like watching Knicks games more than I like right
now in the NBA watching any other game. First of all,
the team's smart, they're really smart team. They're fun, they're great, late,
they're clutch. I like all the celebrities. I think it's cool.
I think it's fun. I've had about as much Spike
Lee as I need in a lifetime. But whatever, he
seems like a nice guy. Timothy Shallow may But I mean,
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OKAC and New York have great fans. Both blame the
officials when they lose. But I think one of the
things I've said for year is European soccer in the
NBA style matters, esthetic matters, and I mean, don't kid
yourself the players. Notice that Al Harrington was on our
show earlier this week talking about he played for the Knicks.
He was a visitor, he wasn't Nick and he talked
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about it's different there.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
Some about just playing on Broadway. Man, it's just you know,
the celebrities there.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
You know.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
I always say it was some about the lighting, right,
you know, out of all the arenas in the league,
like the way that the garden is set up is
like a stage, you know what I'm saying. So you
don't get that environment anywhere but New York. And when
you come, you know, like you got to bring your
a game when you're gonna hear about.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It, you hear this all the time. Well, they're not
true fans, those celebrities. That's not a criteria. Nobody takes
a basketball quiz to sit in the first row, that's
that's not These are busy, successful people, they're famous people,
and they get they get tickets. I mean Ben Siller
said that he didn't even have to pay for him.
They just give them to him.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
That's James Dolan's call. I you know, they they may
not be real fans, but they have real influence and
I think it's a great vibe. When Miami played Indiana
years ago, I don't know if it was the Eastern
Conference Finals, but it was the lebron facing the Pacers
and Paul George I thought it was actually entertaining. You'd
watch the Indiana fans and they were in T shirts,
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and I mean just it looked so Midwest. And then
you'd go down and they'd play in Miami and everybody
was wearing white and you know, a button unbuttoned one
men and women, probably two buttons more than they should
have unbuttoned. And it was like, oh, wow, this is
inappropriate kind of I'm good with it. I like watching it.
I like the Knicks, I like the crowd, I like
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the celebrities. It's okay, I got nothing against Sacramento. We
don't need thirty of them, you know. And J Mack
just happens to be a Knicks fan. What can we do?
I you you believe, So let's just make sure we're
on the same page. You like San Antonio to win
in a route next game?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, I already bet it. Uh yeah, so I think
this is going seven.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Let me I'll just lay it out with two days
off for Wemby in between the rest of the games. Yes,
the Spurs are gonna be live now, they said where
it gets crazy. So he got that flagrant last night.
If he gets another flagrant point he suspended for a game. Colin,
we know wem ben Yama's a little awkward, he falls down,
He's got long limbs. Nicks are trying to get. Is
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there a world where wen ben Yamas suspended? If there's
a game seven? Can you imagine that?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
First of all, you he was accidental last night, he
got a flagrant.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
I don't know if they'll take it away that wasn't
on purpose where he hit cat with the elbow.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, I mean I think I don't think the officials
want that to happen. You know, we've said this before.
You never see pass interference called on hail marriage holding
in the super You never see that. What you never
see what you could call holding on almost every hail Mary.
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Fans don't want to hear this officiating a situational. You know,
it's like if you get to the tenth round of
a fight, the tenth and final round, and you got
two warriors have been going at it for an hour
and one guy's in trouble and there's fifteen seconds left,
the referee is gonna let it go, Like in the
fourth round. If it's ugly pitbull to a beach ball,
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you call it. But if there's fifty I've been at
fights like that. If there's fifteen seconds left, we're gonna
let it go. We're just gonna let it go. Life
is situational. There's a reason cops aren't pulling people over
for speeding in rush hour. Okay, they're doing it late
at night, off hours, noon, they'll pull you over on
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the freeway four h five. They're not doing it at
rush hour morning.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Dry. It's crowded enough. Let's not jam it up. Let's
keep it moving.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Remember the Draymond Green suspension for one game in that
twenty sixteen Finals that helped the Cavs come back from
down three to one.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
What his was really over the top? Yeah, and he's
a crazy person, we know. Sorry Draymond.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
By the way, this Taylor Swift stuff, I did not
know people were bashing Taylor Swift for being at the
next game, and.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I just had to look that up.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
I'm like, what is wrong with people? And listen, I
know they went a little over the top. ESPN the
game winning shot tipped in and they showed a bunch
of celebrities they didn't even show Jalen Brunson, Like, I
don't know what Jalen Brunson's reaction was because they were
showing Larry David and Seinfeld. That was a little bit much.
But whatever, this is a vibe. This is We're gonna
(40:43):
probably getting twenty five million viewers.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Let's just game.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I yeah, I mean, it's a thing. It doesn't bother
me at all, I think, And I also think. It's
an urban downtown New York, Penn Station, Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
It's a different environment.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
A lot of these stadiums now are in the boonies,
they're out in the birds. This is a true people
walk to this. I mean it's people take the train
or they walk to it.
Speaker 8 (41:09):
And let's remember Colin. The NFL has Giants and Jets.
The town is split, the Yankees and Mets. The town
is split. New York is a nick city. There's no
Brooklyn Nets fans.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Our number two World Cup about to begin,
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