December 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Colin Cowherd explains why the Chiefs are in need of a reboot after falling to 6-7 on the season following a home loss to the Texans
He believes the Bears are for real, even though they lost to the Packers in a close game
Colin gives his thoughts on Notre Dame not making the College Football Playoff over Miami
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Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Well, we
said before the season, Jmax said Chiefs won't make the playoffs.
I said they will. But the dynasty is over and
it looks like this is how they end, and you
were watching it last night, so trust your eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They look a little slower.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
They don't look like Seattle, they don't look like the Packers.
Travis Kelce another big drop. They can't generate a consistent
pass rush. The O line got pushed around. They don't
have a running game. Even Andy Reid tie game kind
of takes a big swing. Didn't have to gave the
Texans points. So this is how dynasties end. They don't
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fall off a cliff. They dominate for years, go to
Super Bowls, win, win Super Bowls, and then they start
winning really close games. That was Kansas City last year,
and then they start losing all those close games. Oh wait,
that's Kansas City this year. So again, you watched the
Rams yesterday, you watched Seattle in a blowout win. You
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watched Green Bay or the Lions. You see the youth
an aggressive and speed and remarkably electric players. I saw
some of that from the Texans last night. There's no
question watching that game and I thought, uh, warm weather's
Houston up in the cold weather. Texans were a better team.
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Mora lead athletes. Now, when they pay CJ. Stroud, you know,
four hundred million plus, they'll start looking like Kansas City.
But I mean again, Patrick Mahomes once again had to
be They don't want him to be the leading rusher.
That's not what Kansas City wants. But Mahomes had to
be the leading rusher. And do you know what the
Chiefs are when he is zero to four this year?
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They don't want him to be the leading rusher. They
don't want him to take those hits. Travis Kelsey. It's over,
Bret Veachs. The GM's got to rebuild that D line
and O line.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They got to hit on their draft picks.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But this is what happens when you pay a superstar
quarterback and you're drafting at the bottom of the first round,
in the bottom of the second, and the bottom of
the third, teams catch up. The NFL doesn't want dynasties.
They don't need dynasties. Everybody gets huge ratings these days.
What they want is you can be dominant for a
few years. We'd love you to have a superstar quarterback,
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but you're gonna get lousy draft picks and you're gonna
have to pay him, and the roster is gonna get thin.
And when I watch Kansas this is why Brady in
New England kept rebooting their you know, their tight ends,
they're wide receivers, they're running backs, they're all line with
very few exceptions. I mean Kansas City this year on
third down. Third down's my favorite down in the NFL
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because you can judge a lot, you can judge coaching
line play, how smart your quarterback is. Kansas City this
year thirty five percent on third down. That's what the
Raiders and Jets territory is. So they're just that's the
reality of But trust your eyes and you can call
Kansas City they need a reboot. I think it's closer
to a rebuild. That offensive line is a mile from
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the Rams, it's a mile from the bron I watched
the Broncos yesterday. I mean a guy at one point
Bonix is twenty five thirty. It's just pitching catch. They
can run, they can pass, they have time. So Kansas
City's got some work to do. The on line does
not get a push. They don't really have a top back.
The Texans were absolutely the better team. Patrick Mahomes passer rating.
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Can't blame it on him. He didn't have as good
as people around him. But I thought the Andy Reid
go for it, tied at ten, and he sees it,
and he senses it. Andy understands, and he had never
done that before. He had never called that that deep
in his territory, fourth quarter, tied game, He'd never done
that before. And Andy Reid knows what he's doing, but
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he understands what's happening. The Margins are not only shrinking,
they're gone to the second best team on the field
when they played Denver or last night when they played
the Texans, and here was Mahomes after.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I know we were not winning games, but that that
mindset that these guys have in this locker room in
the games that we're not winning the unit, you can
never question the fight of this team. And obviously when
I executed at the hot at the right moments and
we're not making those plays, by the end of the day,
you will never question that. And I think you'll see
that for these last four weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, so let's talk Packers Bears at Lambeau. This game
was not about green Bay. Green Bay was a touchdown favorite.
Green Bay was at home. Green Bay is a team
we talk about the last thirty years, whether it's Jordan Love,
Aaron Rodgers, or Brett farre green Bay is always in
the Super Bowl conversation. This game was about the Chicago Bears.
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Are they legit? So they go to Philadelphia and win?
And what's everybody say? Well, I mean the Eagles, Yeah,
they're broken the Bears. This is a this is a
real game. Yeah, I watched it. That's the best loss
by any team in the NFL. Chicago's legit. They dominate
the second half. They do a lot of things good
teams do. They win the turnover battle, they take the
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ball away, they run the ball. They've got a smart
offensive cut coach. They're very dynamic at quarterback. Yes, Caleb
Williams is uneven, so is bon Nicks. So are all
the young quarterbacks not named Drake May. They're all uneven.
So what of course, Jordan Love looks more polished and refined,
because at this point, Jordan Love's a top five or
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six quarterback. Of course he looks better than Caleb Williams.
This is six year in the league. That's a lot
of practice in a lot of games. Of course, Matt
Lafleur in green Bay looks more polished and making big
plays late to seal the win. This is what green
Bay has been doing for three decades. But for Bears,
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this is a whole new ball game. This was new territory.
The country was watching and they dominated the second half.
And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. And Kayleb Williams does
not throw a lot of picks. I didn't know if
they were going to get a touchdown. I was surprised
he through an interception. He acknowledged that after the game.
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But the truth is, go look at those last two
at Lambeau. Chicago drives against great Green Bays Deef Jeff
Hafley's defense is fantastic. They had a seventeen play, eight
and a half minute drive.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That is it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Nobody's doing that against the Packers, nobody this year. Then
they followed up with a sixty yards in three minutes.
So they can score quick, they can move the ball fast,
they can beat you up, they can go eighteen plays.
They're doing it in the second half. You and I
watched that game. You know who was gassed in the
second half. It wasn't the Bears. The Packers defense was gassed.
And that Green Bay defense is well coached and really good,
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and they were tired. So this is all new territory
and the good news for Chicago. Yes, you lost, but
you get the Lions at home. You get this Green
Bay team at home. So the Chicago Bears are still
gonna control the destiny. But we talk about this all
the time when you look at teams. I mean, to me,
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I I losing that game, I was like, that's about
as good as a loss is those last two drives
for Chicago, and again, Caleb Williams isn't gonna look as
polished as Jordan Loves of course. I mean Jordan Love
sat for three years before he got the keys to
the car. And it's a Mercedes. You know, it's a
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nice car in green Bay. So he looks. I mean,
he throws the ball now like Aaron used to. And
now all the green Bay receivers. Watson's healthy and Reid's
ready to go, so they've drafted well. Green Bay is
a Super Bowl team. Green Bay is a polished, refined,
brilliantly coached, execution, efficiency, smart development. Everything about green Bay
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is polish, class excellent. Chicago whole new ball game, and
I thought they looked fantastic in the second half, generally speaking,
the most important half. And here was their young coach
Ben Johnson.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
After Obviously, when it comes down to the wire like
that and you're on the losing side of it, it's disappointing,
but a lot of credit to our guys in the
second half. They're making it a game. Down fourteen to
three a half time, and you had it coming down
to the last thirty seconds and potential to tie that
game up or whether it's overtime or go for the
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two point. You know, so really close at the end.
But give a lot of credit to green Bay. They
made a couple more plays than.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Us, and that's all. It was a couple more plays.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think Chicago, there's an argument the Bears were the
last team that everybody acknowledged Okay, they're legit. Like a
couple of weeks ago with New England, we watched New
England clab or another team, and we're like, okay, New
England's legit. And we know Buffalo with Josh Allen's good
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most of the time. By Thanksgiving, you know who's really good.
But we were all questioning Chicago, myself included, because they
were winning, but they were barely winning against average teams.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think Jay McK and I said it last week.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Green Bay maybe the best team in the league, and
they at Lambeau in lousy weather, took them to the
final plays. Totally impressed with it. Sometimes, you know, not
all wins are good ones. You can win a football
game and lose five starters to injuries, and not all
losses are awful. Some of them are a barometer of
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where you are if I'm Chicago busting home, I'm like,
we can play with anybody, because if you can play
against Green Bay in Lambeau, you can play with anybody.
You can play with the Rams, you can play We
just saw him beat Philly. You can play with the Lions.
I mean, got Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City don't look as dominant.
I mean a lot of people don't buy New England.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I do. So that's about as good a loss as
you can have.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I don't know what the rating was, by the way,
the television rating on that game was, but that was
so oh classic pro football. It looked cold. It was
the Packers and the Bears. How much fun? You know
a lot of times j Meck we talk about this.
This has been a lobsided rivalry. It's almost a geographic rivalry,
not an actual athletic rivalry. And I'm watching that yesterday
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thinking do I get ten years of Caleb and Jordan,
Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur because that was unbelievable television.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Yeah, Bears kept coming back.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Did you see this interesting stat The Packers got to
the red zone once.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Everything else was like a big play touchdown because the
Bears kept blitzing, so the Bears defense played pretty darn good.
I was wrong. I didn't think they could hang with
Green Bay. I think the Bears are legit. They can
mess around when a game were two in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, well, I think it's interesting. They do two things
that really help in crappy weather. They run the ball. Yeah,
they're a physical offense. They have to run the ball,
and so does Caleb, so you don't have to put
the ball in harm's way. So they run the ball.
The other thing is they win the turnover battle. They
win it constantly. You go to postseason football. How many
times did the Chiefs win games and we're like, they
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got outplayed. They'd win the turnover battle. They'd make you know,
Mahomes running for a first down.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
The Bears.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Now, we know the Packers do a lot of things
super Bowl teams do.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
We know that they've been doing it for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So first time in three decades that you look the
Bears offense, defense, top to bottom and you're like, oh, yeah,
that's what great teams do. They've had talent, but they
they're you know, they're not very good latent games. The
coaching is defense and old school. They're a very progressive
new school offense.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
They would be frisky against the Rams or Seahawks in
a January and a January showdown.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Given that run game going, I.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Think they're no question.
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We love college football, and a lot of people who
are college football fans actually have a plaque on their wall.
I mean, you can love the Eagles, you don't have
a plaque on your wall. So college football fans and
I love them for this because I absolutely love the sport,
and that was my first love before the NFL, when
I was a kid. They get very tribal, and we
can play and complain, complain when all the dust settled.
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My only problem with the college football Playoff is Tulane
and James Madison are in it. This is not March
Madness with sixty eight teams. It's college football. It's twelve.
There's no We all know they have no chance to
win two games.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, maybe Old Miss has a flat tire and
doesn't show up. But who are we kidding. Let's stop
all this nonsense, all the little guy nobody cares. College
football now has free agency and pays players, and bowl
games are irrelevant. It's over. There's no bowl games in
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pro football. Pretty soon, there's going to be no bowl
games of note in college football. It is now the NFL,
two power conferences, and a playoff. So, by the way,
not everybody in life deserves to be at the grown
up table. Sometimes you don't get invited to the relatives parties.
And I don't have any interest about Tulane and James Madison,
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and I've never fallen for that nonsense. All I cared about.
Miami got in over Notre Dame. That's what I really
cared about. And I've always been very pro Notre Dame.
I love Marcus Freeman. I think Notre Dame's awesome, but
Notre Dame. Stop whining. All you you had to do
was beat Texas A and m or Miami one of them.
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You couldn't beat either. You didn't have a strength of schedule.
You had a stink of schedule. You played five teams
with eight plus losses. You played the worst team in
the SEC, the worst team in the ACC, the worst
team in the Big Ten. Of course, you wouldn't have
had Notre Dame a schedule that awful if you were
a full member of a conference. But Notre Dame won't
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do that. Oh maybe for volleyball, they don't do it
for football. That's why they're so desperate for the USC game.
And I keep saying the La Times finally agreed with
me today. USC doesn't need Notre Dame. They're a full
member of a great conference, the Big Ten. Notre Dame's
a half member in football, and you get years like
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this when you got a stink aroo schedule, when Notre
Dame last won their national championship. Do you know this,
there were twenty five independents. Look around at how many
there are today. Everybody finally realized even BYU joined the
conference and the one thing we're all looking for college football.
What does college football need more than anything, uniformity. So
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I don't have any pity for Notre Dame being stubborn.
They did a diskservice to themselves. When you plan a
big boy conference and you're fully committed, you're just going
to get really uncomfortable games and you can't control them.
Notre dame schedule was awful. Phase seven teams that were
under one hundred defensive ratings. Oh yeah, they did play
Miami that's got a great defense and they couldn't run
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the ball. So we all know that college football is
poorly managed. This has been something I have ragged on forever.
It's eight billion dollar business with no CEO like the
Wild Wild West. It's got territorial governors like the eighteen hundreds.
The commissioners are each doing their own thing, but it's
over this whole independent football thing. Now, there is something
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that's outrageous that's written in next year. If Notre Dame's
a top twelve team. I'll automatically get in, all right.
But I don't shed any tears for Notre Dame this year,
and I'm pro Notre Dame. I wish my kids would
have gone there. It's a great school, and I love
Marcus Freeman. But the outrage would have been keeping Miami out.
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They not only beat them head to head, they have
the better defense. Common opponents, they were better, They have
the better passing game, they have a better D line.
When they went and talked to coaches who had played
both Notre Dame and Miami, overwhelming me, the coaches said,
you have Miami got way better players. So the committee's
not perfect. The sports in artistic, but what we're in
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a transition period now in college football, that's what we are.
We've seen it in a lot of different industries. We're
going through it with AI our economies transitioning. It's bumpy,
its turbulence. But if you had have kept Miami out,
that would have been outrageous. Now, the ad of Notre
Dame went on this Dan Patrick show this morning, and
you know they're like, we're not going to bulls. This
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is all outrageous. Here's Notre Dame's ad.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Just we didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled
out repeatedly and compared to Miami. But it raised a
lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots.
We were mystified by the actions of the conference to
attack their biggest really business partner in football and a
member of their conference in twenty four of our other sports.
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They have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between
the conference and Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, that's not terrible, because I would love to see
Notre Dame join the Big Ten. I think they academically
and football wise fit and geographically they fit. But this
idea is we didn't like the way we were compared
to Miami. The hell you're talking about. Of course you
were compared to Miami. You played them. The committee had
to make a decision on you and Miami. Of course
you were compared to them. That's the way it works
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in a playoff system. You get compared to people, and
people argue about the kind of arbitrary nature of the sport.
At the end of it, of course you were compared
to him. I'm not an anti Notre Name guy. In fact,
a month ago. I was like, I think I'd put
Notre Dame in. But when you watch Miami beat Pitt,
you dug deeper and deeper. And now you watch common opponents,
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you listen to coaches who played them.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
The committee did it right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I actually think Miami is going to beat Texas A and M,
so they're an underdog by four and a half.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I actually like, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Bought into Texas A and M all year, and I
think Alabama probably bounces back and beats Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
It's not perfect.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
This whole thing about Tulane and James Madison. I've never
bought into this argument the little guy can win. You
know what happened is Boise State, which had eleven pros
at the time. Boise State had Chris Peterson, one of
the great coaches ever, and all the small schools they
go look at Boise State and go, remember they beat Oklahoma. Yeah,
that's great, But go look at Tulane. Didn't Tulane lose
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by thirty this year old miss didn't they play already?
I mean, so that's what bothers me. I'm not losing
sleep on Notre Dame being held out Texas being held out,
although I think they had arguments. I think the story
of the weekend is Miami got in and the second
story is I thought Indiana was a basketball school. That's
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hard to wrap your brain around that one. Jmack with
the news.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
All right, let's go to Indiana and that thirteen to
ten win over Ohio State. Now that crazy game. Ohio
State really let everybody down. The defense was not as
formidable as we were told they were. Ohiao State's quarterback
wasn't great. And Fernando Mendoza delt Oh my, look at
this throw Colin just I mean, he's dropping Dines all
over the place, solidified himself as the Heisman winner, as
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the number one thick in the draft. I mean, Mendoza
was tremendous. Here he is talking to Jenny Taft after
the game.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
It sounds so beautiful. I want to give all the
glory to God. We're never supposed to be in this position.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
But by the glory God, the great coaches, great teams
ever around us, we were able to pull this off.
Whoever thought you would be here? But now the Hoodias
are flipping champs. I'd hire that guy tomorrow for a podcast.
He goes, look right into the camera. Listen, a lot
of people are banging on the kid. That is exactly
what I want from a franchise.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Who's banging on it's weird?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
He look, op, it's your Broni's on logite. This guy's amazing, Mendozah.
That's what you want in your franchise quarterback. I want
a nerdy guy who's super smart, has been to two business.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Sings by Come on, he looks the part. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 7 (21:47):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
He's the other thing about Indiana their d line, Dude.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
They got dudes all over the place.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They Okay, I watched them go to Oregon. How many
teams go to Oregon and push the ducks around like
nobody duck shot themselves.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
In the foot a little bit.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
But Indiana, listen, man, they were How about the throw
by Mendoza third and eight.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Gotta have it.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
This is for the game, just to dime down the
sideline to a becker and Indiana.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Now, I haven't really.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Looked at the bracket because I'm still upset with the
committee over this Notre dame nonsense. I haven't looked at
the lines. Do you think Indiana can win this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now I think if they played Ohio State a second time.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
But wait, wait, they got to play ok Alabama Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
They're gonna win. They'll beat those teams.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, okay, Oklahoma's cut.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Some of the sharp gamblers say Oklahoma's dangerous Matier was
unhealthy Membery coming off the injury.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
He's healthy. Now. I don't know enough about Oklahom.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I got to do my homework. Tay Alabama Oklahoma. More
of that. That's a great game.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
It's a rematch. Didn't we already see that?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (22:48):
I know, but now it's you're in the playoffs. Alabama
doesn't deserve it. Two or two in their last four.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Looked awful in the SEC title. Hasn't played well. But
let me defend Bama. They already went to Athens and
beat Joey. We've only played good for a half. The
second half they got their doors blown off. They just
held on to victory. Alabama's resume very suss. I like
to bore a lot Ty Simpson. Did you?
Speaker 7 (23:07):
I mean you watched Ty Simpson Collin. We like him
as a pro. I saw nothing Saturday. What's going on here?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think he has a reasonably strong arm. I don't,
I don't. I know they hadn't been drying into a
lot of this stuff a couple of years ago with
certain quarterback from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't buy into the Alabama court. I think he's fine.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Wait a minute, J McCarthy, Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Washington, we gotta talk about it.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
By far and away the worst defense in the league,
and text July that take a deep breath. He also
had a great fourth quarter against the Bears. Washington is
by a long shot the worst defense at personnel in
the league.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Ye bad.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
All right, let's move on to uh oh, Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Remember last week, I guess the entire city of Pittsburgh
wonted him fired. Well, the Steelers went to Baltimore as
big underdogs and pulled off what I saw was a
shocking victory. Looked like some quit in the Ravens. I
mean Aaron Rodgers was real mouthy. His first rushing touchdown,
by the way, in three years. Rogers afterward defended his coach.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Doesn't we need.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
To get away like this after the week that you guys.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Have had these maybe you guys would shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
For a week.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Well, Aaron played well.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
No, No, he was excellent.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I've defended him all year.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
He's the only consistently redeemable part right now.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
The Steelers.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Their problem is last week Colin, he was awful against Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Well because he's forty two and he's not going to
be Josh Allen. But three out of four weeks this year,
they have no run game they can Alway was protected.
They have no outside of dk Metcap, who's their number
two receiver. Their defense is expensive but doesn't make stops
in big moments. Aaron has been three out of four
weeks a very consistent performer for them, given the circumstances
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of a tone deaf franchised offense.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I got to get Pittsburgh their flowers congratulations, But this
was really about Baltimore and the referees. First of all, Colin,
the Ravens did not have one quarterback hit.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Or sack on immobile Aaron run. What was that?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
And then the overturned touchdown, the call on the field
goal where he basically ran the guy ran up the
middle between the center and the guard and they called
a penalty of the Steelers end up getting a touchdown.
But this is the guysa likely touchdown if you're watching.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, catch one, two steps? What are we doing here?
And then we're like, oh, he didn't get the third step.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
This one I don't get How was it not a touchdown?
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So what they call it is in the NFL. In fact,
let me read this. So we had it and he
had two steps, two feet down. The NFL likes to
refer to this, I have I have it right.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Just it made zero sense. Harball was losing his mind.
A lot of gamblers were in the same What's called.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
The third step is an act common to the game,
also known as forward momentum. But there's nowhere you need
to go in the end zone. So my whole life
is ball security. Two feet downs a touchdown, So that
matters the forty yard line. Look at the forty yard line.
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It's the third It's not just your feet down. If
you get hitt and fumble, are you making progress? I
always thought in the end zone, ball secure, tap, tap,
It doesn't matter about the third step. The third step
matters because the NFL doesn't like fumbles.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
They don't the.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
NFL doesn't want, you know, everybody playing in the middle
of the field. They want touchdowns. So the NFL says,
listen on the field. If you catch it one foot
two foot, but you haven't turned to make a move
forward and you get hit fumbled, it's not a fumble.
I don't believe that should be the case. In the
end zone, could or know where to go forward, it's
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a catch two feet So to me, this that call
could determine the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
That is an enormous swink. I mean, if I'm Baltimore,
I'm devastated right now. I saw some numbers. They're only
like thirty three percent chances to make the playoffs. Colin
and losing it on a controversial call, that that is devastating.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So what ten fifteen years ago the NFL there was
a play Calvin Johnson caught a ball against the Bears
in the back of the end zone.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It was like Week one, think and it was it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
They took away the touchdown and we were all mystified
by it. And for about a ten year stretch there
was a des Brian against Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That what is a catch? What's not as a catch?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I need clarity on this because my entire life ball secure, bang,
bang feet down, that's a touchdown. That's but you know,
the fumble in the end zone is weird anyway. The
worst rule in football is if you fumble as a
running back into the end zone, you not only.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You lose possession of the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
That's on the Raiders years ago, Dave Casper, Kenny Stabler
fumbling it forward. I think that seventies or eighties. You
have to go back and look at that. So the
NFL said we're not gonna let you fumble into the
end zone. The problem is it's a violent league and
people do fumble out of the end zone all the time.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Stick the ball.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Out James Cook had won yesterday. I don't know what
to do because everybody has allegiances, everybody's a fan, everybody
thinks they know. I mean, at some point, maybe you know,
robot umpires are calling balls and strikes. Maybe we get
a robot to say is this a touchdown or not?
That to me, ninety nine times out of one hundred
is and not.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Only really, really, you have to look at it. If
you're the league, you don't have full time officials like
the league's were making a zillion dollars. My take is
it's not only a bad call, it probably determines a
playoff spot and listen.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
I didn't see a lot from the Ravens yesterday. I
don't know if hardball's on the hot seat. He I
didn't see a good game. This team has regressed. Lamar
Jackson doesn't. He just looks disinterested. Something's going on in
Baltimore anyways. Final story, Philadelphia Eagles here in LA against
the Chargers tonight. They're coming off back to back losses,
and weirdly, over the weekend, a giant, inflatable rabbit emerged
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in the Philadelphia locker room.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Colin, this is mystifying.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
It's being referred to as the vibes Bunny or the
positivity Bunny to boost morale.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, this feels desperate.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Well, I don't know who.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
We still don't know who put this thing in there,
But here's sake one Barkley on the bunny in the
locker room.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
I have no idea. I don't I'm not into like
holidays and like bunnies and Christmas. I do to Christmas uff,
I got kids, but like I'm not really big like
joyful holiday person. I guess so, I don't know why.
I think that's really the only spot we can put
a big bunny. But I was told, uh, it's a
vibe bunny and the vibes are high.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
So there we go.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
He didn't sign off on I'm being in front of.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Your locker, didn't sign of my locker, not at all.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Went I went three and one on my picks and
I have Philadelphia tonight.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I would literally pull my bet off the board after
watching that.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That is like, so, who do you.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Think Sirianni ordered? This is it? Big Dom? This is
the GM?
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Like a J.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Brown?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
What what's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
You're gonna feel like you're trying a way too hard.
They're not losing because of vibes. They're losing because they
have no run game.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Gimmicky.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, it's just not it's not of Philadelphia. J mckel
the news.
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Speaker 1 (30:59):
So once again, Josh Allen had to put the Superman
cape on and save his head coach's job. Buffalo at
one point in the fourth quarter, trailed by ten to
four and eight Joe Burrow and the Bengals, and they
were getting they were transforming every third down to a
first down. McDermott's defense and he's a defensive guy, surrendered
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five touchdowns in a snowstorm at home. But every six
or seven times a year Josh Allen does this. He
saves the day. Josh Allen in Buffalo has become Lebron
James in Cleveland. He's got to do all the big lifting.
He's the human snowplow. Without Josh Allen in Buffalo, everything
gets snowed in, everything is stuck. So last I mean,
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remember this season, just this season, Josh Allen had to
score four touchdowns because the Bills surrendered forty points, and
then he had to score six touchdowns because the Bills
surrendered thirty two points. And then yes, they needed four
touchdowns again in snow because they surrendered thirty four points.
And Sean McDermott's the defensive head coach. So I think
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Josh Allen loves being the man. He doesn't love being
the only man. And yesterday he got James Cook fumbling
at the one, so he's got to just run it
in himself. So the Bills have forty four touchdowns this year,
Josh Allen has thirty four of the forty four. If
this has been going on too long, it really is
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Lebron in Cleveland's He's got to do everything. And I
know Sean McDermott is more than capable, he's organized, but
just think about this number. This is unbelievable the Buffalo
Bills for one reason only Josh Allen. The Buffalo Bills
this year are three and oh when they surrender thirty
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two or more points. The rest of the league is
six sixty one and two. I mean again, he's the
city's best snowblower, bulldozer, snow remover. If he's not here,
this thing would be a mess. And I'm not forgetting
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coaches fired. But how many years is this going to
be the story? This is the perfect year Buffalo to
win it. Kansas City won't be in the playoffs, The
Chargers hardball, Herbert are good, missing both offensive tackles, Baltimore broken,
Burrow won't make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
This is the year.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
The second best team or first best team has young
Drake May and is still in a rebuild New England.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
How many years do you have to see this?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I mean, Joe Burrow had a couple of picks in
two passes, otherwise was brilliant and that saved the day.
Here is Josh Allen after.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
We knew that we were moving the ball well and
we were hurting ourselves, and if we can just stop
hurting ourselves, we can we can find success. And you
pair that up with a couple of turnovers from our defense.
That's a good recipe right there.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, this has really become groundhog Day, and you gotta
be careful. I mean, listen the Broncos with John Elway,
they had a very good coach, Dan Reeves, very good coach,
and I mean they finally were like, we're gonna go
to Mike Shanahan. We can't keep getting blown out in
Super Bowls and Elway was kind of struggling with it
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a little bit with Dan Reeves. Dan Reeves a very
good coach, but it was time. And I kind of
feel like this with Buffalo, like the fact that you
needed Josh Allen this year. He's had to score four
touchdowns and six touchdowns and four touchdowns and yesterday even
his running backs fumbling. It's time because this is the year.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Think about this.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's an argument to be made that you're gonna b
Nicks and Drake May in the playoffs here, biggest threats.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
They're like kids.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
There's still young kids trying to figure out how to
play the position. And had you made a move last
year and gotten an offensive coach, maybe gone after a
big boy Ben Johnson, you'd be in a different spot.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
This is the year it opened up for you.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And again, I've watched this Buffalo team play nine ten times,
start to finish the thing they got going for him.
I'll give him credit. I don't even know if I
give him credit. Is that as you see all this
cold weather between James Cook and Josh Allen, they can
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run the football. It's really a running team if you
count Josh Allen running. They have no receivers yesterday they're
leading receivers or tight ends, so they have no downfield
guy they trust. In fact, I think Gabe Davis had
two catches. That was their leading receiver and they just
brought him back. So they're not dependent on the deep ball.
Even though they have the strongest arm quarterback. That helps
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a lot. They're actually built and they play well, and
they actually this is a Buffalo team that needs snow
because you can beat him deep all day long, but
in snow you can't throw it deep much. So they
got that going for him. But and here's Superman to
save the day again. All right, So I want to
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go back to the whole Travis Kelce thing. He had
a big drop and it becomes a turnover. Just just
say this out loud. Ten time pro bowler, number one
sports podcast marring a pop star leads his team in drops. Now,
doesn't that sound like a former Hall of Fame player
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who's playing in his last year. I know what it
looks like, but it even sounds like it. And listen,
he won it life. I'm happy for him. The Kelsey's
are great, but he's a distracted, regressing player, and and
you know, we said this.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Is his last year.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
A lot of the what's ailed, what's illed, the which
already hurt the Chiefs all year, is they've been in
these big spots and Mahomes, who's still in his prime,
is looking for Kelsey and he finds him and it
doesn't turn out the way you wanted to turn out.
So last year, last night was fitting for what the
Chiefs had become this year. A lot in big spots
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is that he's looking for his guy, and his guy
has got a really popular podcast and is a great
former player who now leads the Chiefs this year and drops.
So a lot of what they're dealing with last night
was really symbolic of what has happened to the Chiefs
in big spots. They don't look as athletic. There's a
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big drop and he's had a remarkable career. But think
about this is that I was looking it up this morning.
Grunk is the same age as Travis Kelce and Gronk's
been in TV for years, like it's time and here's
Mahomes after the game on Travis's future.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Every season I've had with him these last few years,
I try to cherish because you know, you never know.
He got himself in great shape this year, and he's
played great football, and he'll have the option to do
whatever he wants to do after the season. But I
know one thing is he'll give everything he has the
rest of the season to try to give us a
chance to make a playoff run.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It's very difficult when you're winning, and he is not
only winning, he's winning it life. He didn't want to
talk to the media after.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
He's gotten wildly popular, almost like NBA Instagram popular for
a variety of reasons. But I thought watching him last
night and watching that play, it was very symbolic of
you know, it doesn't look right, but it also doesn't
sound right, like I'm all for podcasting, I'm all for
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marrying the richest pop star in the world. You know,
I'm not a moralist. I'm not envious. I think it's great,
But I think this is sort of what this year
was going to look like. This is what it was
going to look like, and it is in a primetime game,
in a standalone Sunday night game, this is you put
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the popular team on and again, this is how dynasties end.
You win Super Bowls and you dominate, you win big,
and then you win barely, and then you lose close
and it's they don't get the pass rush, Chris Jones,
isn't this dominant. They can't get people off the field
on third down, they can't convert on third down, and
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their star weapon leads the team in drops kind of distracted.
I means guys had like seven eight nine. I think
a couple of years ago he said he had ten surgeries.
I'm not sure that's the number, but this is what
it was going to look like. You said they wouldn't
make the playoffs. I thought they'd make it as a
wild card team. I picked Denver to win the division.
But I was watching last year, and I watching it
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last year, it was there's a reason. There is a
skill to winning close games, but there's also a reason
for losing close games, and your eyes are telling you
the reason.
Speaker 7 (40:13):
Technically, they're not eliminated from the playoffs. They won't win
the AFC West. They just need a million things to
happen to get to the postseason.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
It feels over.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
I think your topic about the rebuild, you said at
the top of the hour, that deserves it.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I don't think it's a reboot. I think there's a
bit of a rebuild here.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Yeah, they had some dead wood on defense, offensive line, yeah,
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Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Well, we
said before the season, Jmax said Chiefs won't make the playoffs.
I said they will. But the dynasty is over and
it looks like this is how they end, and you
were watching it last night, so trust your eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They look a little slower.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
They don't look like Seattle, they don't look like the Packers.
Travis Kelce another big drop. They can't generate a consistent
pass rush. The O line got pushed around. They don't
have a running game. Even Andy Reid tie game kind
of takes a big swing. Didn't have to gave the
Texans points. So this is how dynasties end. They don't
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fall off a cliff. They dominate for years, go to
Super Bowls, win, win Super Bowls, and then they start
winning really close games. That was Kansas City last year,
and then they start losing all those close games. Oh wait,
that's Kansas City this year. So again, you watched the
Rams yesterday, you watched Seattle in a blowout win. You
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watched Green Bay or the Lions. You see the youth
an aggressive and speed and remarkably electric players. I saw
some of that from the Texans last night. There's no
question watching that game and I thought, uh, warm weather's
Houston up in the cold weather. Texans were a better team.
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Mora lead athletes. Now, when they pay CJ. Stroud, you know,
four hundred million plus, they'll start looking like Kansas City.
But I mean again, Patrick Mahomes once again had to
be They don't want him to be the leading rusher.
That's not what Kansas City wants. But Mahomes had to
be the leading rusher. And do you know what the
Chiefs are when he is zero to four this year?
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They don't want him to be the leading rusher. They
don't want him to take those hits. Travis Kelsey. It's over,
Bret Veachs. The GM's got to rebuild that D line
and O line.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They got to hit on their draft picks.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But this is what happens when you pay a superstar
quarterback and you're drafting at the bottom of the first round,
in the bottom of the second, and the bottom of
the third, teams catch up. The NFL doesn't want dynasties.
They don't need dynasties. Everybody gets huge ratings these days.
What they want is you can be dominant for a
few years. We'd love you to have a superstar quarterback,
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but you're gonna get lousy draft picks and you're gonna
have to pay him, and the roster is gonna get thin.
And when I watch Kansas this is why Brady in
New England kept rebooting their you know, their tight ends,
they're wide receivers, they're running backs, they're all line with
very few exceptions. I mean Kansas City this year on
third down. Third down's my favorite down in the NFL
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because you can judge a lot, you can judge coaching
line play, how smart your quarterback is. Kansas City this
year thirty five percent on third down. That's what the
Raiders and Jets territory is. So they're just that's the
reality of But trust your eyes and you can call
Kansas City they need a reboot. I think it's closer
to a rebuild. That offensive line is a mile from
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the Rams, it's a mile from the bron I watched
the Broncos yesterday. I mean a guy at one point
Bonix is twenty five thirty. It's just pitching catch. They
can run, they can pass, they have time. So Kansas
City's got some work to do. The on line does
not get a push. They don't really have a top back.
The Texans were absolutely the better team. Patrick Mahomes passer rating.
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Can't blame it on him. He didn't have as good
as people around him. But I thought the Andy Reid
go for it, tied at ten, and he sees it,
and he senses it. Andy understands, and he had never
done that before. He had never called that that deep
in his territory, fourth quarter, tied game, He'd never done
that before. And Andy Reid knows what he's doing, but
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he understands what's happening. The Margins are not only shrinking,
they're gone to the second best team on the field
when they played Denver or last night when they played
the Texans, and here was Mahomes after.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I know we were not winning games, but that that
mindset that these guys have in this locker room in
the games that we're not winning the unit, you can
never question the fight of this team. And obviously when
I executed at the hot at the right moments and
we're not making those plays, by the end of the day,
you will never question that. And I think you'll see
that for these last four weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, so let's talk Packers Bears at Lambeau. This game
was not about green Bay. Green Bay was a touchdown favorite.
Green Bay was at home. Green Bay is a team
we talk about the last thirty years, whether it's Jordan Love,
Aaron Rodgers, or Brett farre green Bay is always in
the Super Bowl conversation. This game was about the Chicago Bears.
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Are they legit? So they go to Philadelphia and win?
And what's everybody say? Well, I mean the Eagles, Yeah,
they're broken the Bears. This is a this is a
real game. Yeah, I watched it. That's the best loss
by any team in the NFL. Chicago's legit. They dominate
the second half. They do a lot of things good
teams do. They win the turnover battle, they take the
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ball away, they run the ball. They've got a smart
offensive cut coach. They're very dynamic at quarterback. Yes, Caleb
Williams is uneven, so is bon Nicks. So are all
the young quarterbacks not named Drake May. They're all uneven.
So what of course, Jordan Love looks more polished and refined,
because at this point, Jordan Love's a top five or
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six quarterback. Of course he looks better than Caleb Williams.
This is six year in the league. That's a lot
of practice in a lot of games. Of course, Matt
Lafleur in green Bay looks more polished and making big
plays late to seal the win. This is what green
Bay has been doing for three decades. But for Bears,
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this is a whole new ball game. This was new territory.
The country was watching and they dominated the second half.
And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. And Kayleb Williams does
not throw a lot of picks. I didn't know if
they were going to get a touchdown. I was surprised
he through an interception. He acknowledged that after the game.
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But the truth is, go look at those last two
at Lambeau. Chicago drives against great Green Bays Deef Jeff
Hafley's defense is fantastic. They had a seventeen play, eight
and a half minute drive.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That is it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Nobody's doing that against the Packers, nobody this year. Then
they followed up with a sixty yards in three minutes.
So they can score quick, they can move the ball fast,
they can beat you up, they can go eighteen plays.
They're doing it in the second half. You and I
watched that game. You know who was gassed in the
second half. It wasn't the Bears. The Packers defense was gassed.
And that Green Bay defense is well coached and really good,
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and they were tired. So this is all new territory
and the good news for Chicago. Yes, you lost, but
you get the Lions at home. You get this Green
Bay team at home. So the Chicago Bears are still
gonna control the destiny. But we talk about this all
the time when you look at teams. I mean, to me,
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I I losing that game, I was like, that's about
as good as a loss is those last two drives
for Chicago, and again, Caleb Williams isn't gonna look as
polished as Jordan Loves of course. I mean Jordan Love
sat for three years before he got the keys to
the car. And it's a Mercedes. You know, it's a
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nice car in green Bay. So he looks. I mean,
he throws the ball now like Aaron used to. And
now all the green Bay receivers. Watson's healthy and Reid's
ready to go, so they've drafted well. Green Bay is
a Super Bowl team. Green Bay is a polished, refined,
brilliantly coached, execution, efficiency, smart development. Everything about green Bay
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is polish, class excellent. Chicago whole new ball game, and
I thought they looked fantastic in the second half, generally speaking,
the most important half. And here was their young coach
Ben Johnson.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
After Obviously, when it comes down to the wire like
that and you're on the losing side of it, it's disappointing,
but a lot of credit to our guys in the
second half. They're making it a game. Down fourteen to
three a half time, and you had it coming down
to the last thirty seconds and potential to tie that
game up or whether it's overtime or go for the
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two point. You know, so really close at the end.
But give a lot of credit to green Bay. They
made a couple more plays than.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Us, and that's all. It was a couple more plays.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think Chicago, there's an argument the Bears were the
last team that everybody acknowledged Okay, they're legit. Like a
couple of weeks ago with New England, we watched New
England clab or another team, and we're like, okay, New
England's legit. And we know Buffalo with Josh Allen's good
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most of the time. By Thanksgiving, you know who's really good.
But we were all questioning Chicago, myself included, because they
were winning, but they were barely winning against average teams.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think Jay McK and I said it last week.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Green Bay maybe the best team in the league, and
they at Lambeau in lousy weather, took them to the
final plays. Totally impressed with it. Sometimes, you know, not
all wins are good ones. You can win a football
game and lose five starters to injuries, and not all
losses are awful. Some of them are a barometer of
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where you are if I'm Chicago busting home, I'm like,
we can play with anybody, because if you can play
against Green Bay in Lambeau, you can play with anybody.
You can play with the Rams, you can play We
just saw him beat Philly. You can play with the Lions.
I mean, got Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City don't look as dominant.
I mean a lot of people don't buy New England.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I do. So that's about as good a loss as
you can have.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I don't know what the rating was, by the way,
the television rating on that game was, but that was
so oh classic pro football. It looked cold. It was
the Packers and the Bears. How much fun? You know
a lot of times j Meck we talk about this.
This has been a lobsided rivalry. It's almost a geographic rivalry,
not an actual athletic rivalry. And I'm watching that yesterday
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thinking do I get ten years of Caleb and Jordan,
Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur because that was unbelievable television.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Yeah, Bears kept coming back.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Did you see this interesting stat The Packers got to
the red zone once.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Everything else was like a big play touchdown because the
Bears kept blitzing, so the Bears defense played pretty darn good.
I was wrong. I didn't think they could hang with
Green Bay. I think the Bears are legit. They can
mess around when a game were two in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, well, I think it's interesting. They do two things
that really help in crappy weather. They run the ball. Yeah,
they're a physical offense. They have to run the ball,
and so does Caleb, so you don't have to put
the ball in harm's way. So they run the ball.
The other thing is they win the turnover battle. They
win it constantly. You go to postseason football. How many
times did the Chiefs win games and we're like, they
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got outplayed. They'd win the turnover battle. They'd make you know,
Mahomes running for a first down.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
The Bears.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Now, we know the Packers do a lot of things
super Bowl teams do.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
We know that they've been doing it for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So first time in three decades that you look the
Bears offense, defense, top to bottom and you're like, oh, yeah,
that's what great teams do. They've had talent, but they
they're you know, they're not very good latent games. The
coaching is defense and old school. They're a very progressive
new school offense.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
They would be frisky against the Rams or Seahawks in
a January and a January showdown.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Given that run game going, I.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Think they're no question.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
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Speaker 1 (13:23):
We love college football, and a lot of people who
are college football fans actually have a plaque on their wall.
I mean, you can love the Eagles, you don't have
a plaque on your wall. So college football fans and
I love them for this because I absolutely love the sport,
and that was my first love before the NFL, when
I was a kid. They get very tribal, and we
can play and complain, complain when all the dust settled.
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My only problem with the college football Playoff is Tulane
and James Madison are in it. This is not March
Madness with sixty eight teams. It's college football. It's twelve.
There's no We all know they have no chance to
win two games.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, maybe Old Miss has a flat tire and
doesn't show up. But who are we kidding. Let's stop
all this nonsense, all the little guy nobody cares. College
football now has free agency and pays players, and bowl
games are irrelevant. It's over. There's no bowl games in
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pro football. Pretty soon, there's going to be no bowl
games of note in college football. It is now the NFL,
two power conferences, and a playoff. So, by the way,
not everybody in life deserves to be at the grown
up table. Sometimes you don't get invited to the relatives parties.
And I don't have any interest about Tulane and James Madison,
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and I've never fallen for that nonsense. All I cared about.
Miami got in over Notre Dame. That's what I really
cared about. And I've always been very pro Notre Dame.
I love Marcus Freeman. I think Notre Dame's awesome, but
Notre Dame. Stop whining. All you you had to do
was beat Texas A and m or Miami one of them.
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You couldn't beat either. You didn't have a strength of schedule.
You had a stink of schedule. You played five teams
with eight plus losses. You played the worst team in
the SEC, the worst team in the ACC, the worst
team in the Big Ten. Of course, you wouldn't have
had Notre Dame a schedule that awful if you were
a full member of a conference. But Notre Dame won't
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do that. Oh maybe for volleyball, they don't do it
for football. That's why they're so desperate for the USC game.
And I keep saying the La Times finally agreed with
me today. USC doesn't need Notre Dame. They're a full
member of a great conference, the Big Ten. Notre Dame's
a half member in football, and you get years like
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this when you got a stink aroo schedule, when Notre
Dame last won their national championship. Do you know this,
there were twenty five independents. Look around at how many
there are today. Everybody finally realized even BYU joined the
conference and the one thing we're all looking for college football.
What does college football need more than anything, uniformity. So
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I don't have any pity for Notre Dame being stubborn.
They did a diskservice to themselves. When you plan a
big boy conference and you're fully committed, you're just going
to get really uncomfortable games and you can't control them.
Notre dame schedule was awful. Phase seven teams that were
under one hundred defensive ratings. Oh yeah, they did play
Miami that's got a great defense and they couldn't run
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the ball. So we all know that college football is
poorly managed. This has been something I have ragged on forever.
It's eight billion dollar business with no CEO like the
Wild Wild West. It's got territorial governors like the eighteen hundreds.
The commissioners are each doing their own thing, but it's
over this whole independent football thing. Now, there is something
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that's outrageous that's written in next year. If Notre Dame's
a top twelve team. I'll automatically get in, all right.
But I don't shed any tears for Notre Dame this year,
and I'm pro Notre Dame. I wish my kids would
have gone there. It's a great school, and I love
Marcus Freeman. But the outrage would have been keeping Miami out.
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They not only beat them head to head, they have
the better defense. Common opponents, they were better, They have
the better passing game, they have a better D line.
When they went and talked to coaches who had played
both Notre Dame and Miami, overwhelming me, the coaches said,
you have Miami got way better players. So the committee's
not perfect. The sports in artistic, but what we're in
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a transition period now in college football, that's what we are.
We've seen it in a lot of different industries. We're
going through it with AI our economies transitioning. It's bumpy,
its turbulence. But if you had have kept Miami out,
that would have been outrageous. Now, the ad of Notre
Dame went on this Dan Patrick show this morning, and
you know they're like, we're not going to bulls. This
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is all outrageous. Here's Notre Dame's ad.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Just we didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled
out repeatedly and compared to Miami. But it raised a
lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots.
We were mystified by the actions of the conference to
attack their biggest really business partner in football and a
member of their conference in twenty four of our other sports.
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They have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between
the conference and Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, that's not terrible, because I would love to see
Notre Dame join the Big Ten. I think they academically
and football wise fit and geographically they fit. But this
idea is we didn't like the way we were compared
to Miami. The hell you're talking about. Of course you
were compared to Miami. You played them. The committee had
to make a decision on you and Miami. Of course
you were compared to them. That's the way it works
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in a playoff system. You get compared to people, and
people argue about the kind of arbitrary nature of the sport.
At the end of it, of course you were compared
to him. I'm not an anti Notre Name guy. In fact,
a month ago. I was like, I think I'd put
Notre Dame in. But when you watch Miami beat Pitt,
you dug deeper and deeper. And now you watch common opponents,
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you listen to coaches who played them.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
The committee did it right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I actually think Miami is going to beat Texas A and M,
so they're an underdog by four and a half.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I actually like, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Bought into Texas A and M all year, and I
think Alabama probably bounces back and beats Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
It's not perfect.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
This whole thing about Tulane and James Madison. I've never
bought into this argument the little guy can win. You
know what happened is Boise State, which had eleven pros
at the time. Boise State had Chris Peterson, one of
the great coaches ever, and all the small schools they
go look at Boise State and go, remember they beat Oklahoma. Yeah,
that's great, But go look at Tulane. Didn't Tulane lose
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by thirty this year old miss didn't they play already?
I mean, so that's what bothers me. I'm not losing
sleep on Notre Dame being held out Texas being held out,
although I think they had arguments. I think the story
of the weekend is Miami got in and the second
story is I thought Indiana was a basketball school. That's
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hard to wrap your brain around that one. Jmack with
the news.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
All right, let's go to Indiana and that thirteen to
ten win over Ohio State. Now that crazy game. Ohio
State really let everybody down. The defense was not as
formidable as we were told they were. Ohiao State's quarterback
wasn't great. And Fernando Mendoza delt Oh my, look at
this throw Colin just I mean, he's dropping Dines all
over the place, solidified himself as the Heisman winner, as
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the number one thick in the draft. I mean, Mendoza
was tremendous. Here he is talking to Jenny Taft after
the game.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
It sounds so beautiful. I want to give all the
glory to God. We're never supposed to be in this position.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
But by the glory God, the great coaches, great teams
ever around us, we were able to pull this off.
Whoever thought you would be here? But now the Hoodias
are flipping champs. I'd hire that guy tomorrow for a podcast.
He goes, look right into the camera. Listen, a lot
of people are banging on the kid. That is exactly
what I want from a franchise.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Who's banging on it's weird?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
He look, op, it's your Broni's on logite. This guy's amazing, Mendozah.
That's what you want in your franchise quarterback. I want
a nerdy guy who's super smart, has been to two business.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Sings by Come on, he looks the part. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 7 (21:47):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
He's the other thing about Indiana their d line, Dude.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
They got dudes all over the place.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They Okay, I watched them go to Oregon. How many
teams go to Oregon and push the ducks around like
nobody duck shot themselves.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
In the foot a little bit.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
But Indiana, listen, man, they were How about the throw
by Mendoza third and eight.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Gotta have it.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
This is for the game, just to dime down the
sideline to a becker and Indiana.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Now, I haven't really.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Looked at the bracket because I'm still upset with the
committee over this Notre dame nonsense. I haven't looked at
the lines. Do you think Indiana can win this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now I think if they played Ohio State a second time.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
But wait, wait, they got to play ok Alabama Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
They're gonna win. They'll beat those teams.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, okay, Oklahoma's cut.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Some of the sharp gamblers say Oklahoma's dangerous Matier was
unhealthy Membery coming off the injury.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
He's healthy. Now. I don't know enough about Oklahom.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I got to do my homework. Tay Alabama Oklahoma. More
of that. That's a great game.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
It's a rematch. Didn't we already see that?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (22:48):
I know, but now it's you're in the playoffs. Alabama
doesn't deserve it. Two or two in their last four.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Looked awful in the SEC title. Hasn't played well. But
let me defend Bama. They already went to Athens and
beat Joey. We've only played good for a half. The
second half they got their doors blown off. They just
held on to victory. Alabama's resume very suss. I like
to bore a lot Ty Simpson. Did you?
Speaker 7 (23:07):
I mean you watched Ty Simpson Collin. We like him
as a pro. I saw nothing Saturday. What's going on here?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think he has a reasonably strong arm. I don't,
I don't. I know they hadn't been drying into a
lot of this stuff a couple of years ago with
certain quarterback from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't buy into the Alabama court. I think he's fine.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Wait a minute, J McCarthy, Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Washington, we gotta talk about it.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
By far and away the worst defense in the league,
and text July that take a deep breath. He also
had a great fourth quarter against the Bears. Washington is
by a long shot the worst defense at personnel in
the league.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Ye bad.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
All right, let's move on to uh oh, Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Remember last week, I guess the entire city of Pittsburgh
wonted him fired. Well, the Steelers went to Baltimore as
big underdogs and pulled off what I saw was a
shocking victory. Looked like some quit in the Ravens. I
mean Aaron Rodgers was real mouthy. His first rushing touchdown,
by the way, in three years. Rogers afterward defended his coach.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Doesn't we need.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
To get away like this after the week that you guys.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Have had these maybe you guys would shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
For a week.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Well, Aaron played well.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
No, No, he was excellent.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I've defended him all year.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
He's the only consistently redeemable part right now.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
The Steelers.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Their problem is last week Colin, he was awful against Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Well because he's forty two and he's not going to
be Josh Allen. But three out of four weeks this year,
they have no run game they can Alway was protected.
They have no outside of dk Metcap, who's their number
two receiver. Their defense is expensive but doesn't make stops
in big moments. Aaron has been three out of four
weeks a very consistent performer for them, given the circumstances
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of a tone deaf franchised offense.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I got to get Pittsburgh their flowers congratulations, But this
was really about Baltimore and the referees. First of all, Colin,
the Ravens did not have one quarterback hit.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Or sack on immobile Aaron run. What was that?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
And then the overturned touchdown, the call on the field
goal where he basically ran the guy ran up the
middle between the center and the guard and they called
a penalty of the Steelers end up getting a touchdown.
But this is the guysa likely touchdown if you're watching.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, catch one, two steps? What are we doing here?
And then we're like, oh, he didn't get the third step.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
This one I don't get How was it not a touchdown?
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So what they call it is in the NFL. In fact,
let me read this. So we had it and he
had two steps, two feet down. The NFL likes to
refer to this, I have I have it right.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Just it made zero sense. Harball was losing his mind.
A lot of gamblers were in the same What's called.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
The third step is an act common to the game,
also known as forward momentum. But there's nowhere you need
to go in the end zone. So my whole life
is ball security. Two feet downs a touchdown, So that
matters the forty yard line. Look at the forty yard line.
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It's the third It's not just your feet down. If
you get hitt and fumble, are you making progress? I
always thought in the end zone, ball secure, tap, tap,
It doesn't matter about the third step. The third step
matters because the NFL doesn't like fumbles.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
They don't the.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
NFL doesn't want, you know, everybody playing in the middle
of the field. They want touchdowns. So the NFL says,
listen on the field. If you catch it one foot
two foot, but you haven't turned to make a move
forward and you get hit fumbled, it's not a fumble.
I don't believe that should be the case. In the
end zone, could or know where to go forward, it's
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a catch two feet So to me, this that call
could determine the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
That is an enormous swink. I mean, if I'm Baltimore,
I'm devastated right now. I saw some numbers. They're only
like thirty three percent chances to make the playoffs. Colin
and losing it on a controversial call, that that is devastating.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So what ten fifteen years ago the NFL there was
a play Calvin Johnson caught a ball against the Bears
in the back of the end zone.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It was like Week one, think and it was it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
They took away the touchdown and we were all mystified
by it. And for about a ten year stretch there
was a des Brian against Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That what is a catch? What's not as a catch?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I need clarity on this because my entire life ball secure, bang,
bang feet down, that's a touchdown. That's but you know,
the fumble in the end zone is weird anyway. The
worst rule in football is if you fumble as a
running back into the end zone, you not only.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You lose possession of the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
That's on the Raiders years ago, Dave Casper, Kenny Stabler
fumbling it forward. I think that seventies or eighties. You
have to go back and look at that. So the
NFL said we're not gonna let you fumble into the
end zone. The problem is it's a violent league and
people do fumble out of the end zone all the time.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Stick the ball.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Out James Cook had won yesterday. I don't know what
to do because everybody has allegiances, everybody's a fan, everybody
thinks they know. I mean, at some point, maybe you know,
robot umpires are calling balls and strikes. Maybe we get
a robot to say is this a touchdown or not?
That to me, ninety nine times out of one hundred
is and not.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Only really, really, you have to look at it. If
you're the league, you don't have full time officials like
the league's were making a zillion dollars. My take is
it's not only a bad call, it probably determines a
playoff spot and listen.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
I didn't see a lot from the Ravens yesterday. I
don't know if hardball's on the hot seat. He I
didn't see a good game. This team has regressed. Lamar
Jackson doesn't. He just looks disinterested. Something's going on in
Baltimore anyways. Final story, Philadelphia Eagles here in LA against
the Chargers tonight. They're coming off back to back losses,
and weirdly, over the weekend, a giant, inflatable rabbit emerged
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in the Philadelphia locker room.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Colin, this is mystifying.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
It's being referred to as the vibes Bunny or the
positivity Bunny to boost morale.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, this feels desperate.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Well, I don't know who.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
We still don't know who put this thing in there,
But here's sake one Barkley on the bunny in the
locker room.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
I have no idea. I don't I'm not into like
holidays and like bunnies and Christmas. I do to Christmas uff,
I got kids, but like I'm not really big like
joyful holiday person. I guess so, I don't know why.
I think that's really the only spot we can put
a big bunny. But I was told, uh, it's a
vibe bunny and the vibes are high.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
So there we go.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
He didn't sign off on I'm being in front of.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Your locker, didn't sign of my locker, not at all.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Went I went three and one on my picks and
I have Philadelphia tonight.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I would literally pull my bet off the board after
watching that.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That is like, so, who do you.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Think Sirianni ordered? This is it? Big Dom? This is
the GM?
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Like a J.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Brown?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
What what's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
You're gonna feel like you're trying a way too hard.
They're not losing because of vibes. They're losing because they
have no run game.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Gimmicky.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, it's just not it's not of Philadelphia. J mckel
the news.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
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Speaker 3 (30:24):
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Speaker 1 (30:59):
So once again, Josh Allen had to put the Superman
cape on and save his head coach's job. Buffalo at
one point in the fourth quarter, trailed by ten to
four and eight Joe Burrow and the Bengals, and they
were getting they were transforming every third down to a
first down. McDermott's defense and he's a defensive guy, surrendered
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five touchdowns in a snowstorm at home. But every six
or seven times a year Josh Allen does this. He
saves the day. Josh Allen in Buffalo has become Lebron
James in Cleveland. He's got to do all the big lifting.
He's the human snowplow. Without Josh Allen in Buffalo, everything
gets snowed in, everything is stuck. So last I mean,
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remember this season, just this season, Josh Allen had to
score four touchdowns because the Bills surrendered forty points, and
then he had to score six touchdowns because the Bills
surrendered thirty two points. And then yes, they needed four
touchdowns again in snow because they surrendered thirty four points.
And Sean McDermott's the defensive head coach. So I think
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Josh Allen loves being the man. He doesn't love being
the only man. And yesterday he got James Cook fumbling
at the one, so he's got to just run it
in himself. So the Bills have forty four touchdowns this year,
Josh Allen has thirty four of the forty four. If
this has been going on too long, it really is
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Lebron in Cleveland's He's got to do everything. And I
know Sean McDermott is more than capable, he's organized, but
just think about this number. This is unbelievable the Buffalo
Bills for one reason only Josh Allen. The Buffalo Bills
this year are three and oh when they surrender thirty
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two or more points. The rest of the league is
six sixty one and two. I mean again, he's the
city's best snowblower, bulldozer, snow remover. If he's not here,
this thing would be a mess. And I'm not forgetting
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coaches fired. But how many years is this going to
be the story? This is the perfect year Buffalo to
win it. Kansas City won't be in the playoffs, The
Chargers hardball, Herbert are good, missing both offensive tackles, Baltimore broken,
Burrow won't make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
This is the year.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
The second best team or first best team has young
Drake May and is still in a rebuild New England.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
How many years do you have to see this?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I mean, Joe Burrow had a couple of picks in
two passes, otherwise was brilliant and that saved the day.
Here is Josh Allen after.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
We knew that we were moving the ball well and
we were hurting ourselves, and if we can just stop
hurting ourselves, we can we can find success. And you
pair that up with a couple of turnovers from our defense.
That's a good recipe right there.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, this has really become groundhog Day, and you gotta
be careful. I mean, listen the Broncos with John Elway,
they had a very good coach, Dan Reeves, very good coach,
and I mean they finally were like, we're gonna go
to Mike Shanahan. We can't keep getting blown out in
Super Bowls and Elway was kind of struggling with it
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a little bit with Dan Reeves. Dan Reeves a very
good coach, but it was time. And I kind of
feel like this with Buffalo, like the fact that you
needed Josh Allen this year. He's had to score four
touchdowns and six touchdowns and four touchdowns and yesterday even
his running backs fumbling. It's time because this is the year.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Think about this.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's an argument to be made that you're gonna b
Nicks and Drake May in the playoffs here, biggest threats.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
They're like kids.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
There's still young kids trying to figure out how to
play the position. And had you made a move last
year and gotten an offensive coach, maybe gone after a
big boy Ben Johnson, you'd be in a different spot.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
This is the year it opened up for you.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And again, I've watched this Buffalo team play nine ten times,
start to finish the thing they got going for him.
I'll give him credit. I don't even know if I
give him credit. Is that as you see all this
cold weather between James Cook and Josh Allen, they can
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run the football. It's really a running team if you
count Josh Allen running. They have no receivers yesterday they're
leading receivers or tight ends, so they have no downfield
guy they trust. In fact, I think Gabe Davis had
two catches. That was their leading receiver and they just
brought him back. So they're not dependent on the deep ball.
Even though they have the strongest arm quarterback. That helps
(36:04):
a lot. They're actually built and they play well, and
they actually this is a Buffalo team that needs snow
because you can beat him deep all day long, but
in snow you can't throw it deep much. So they
got that going for him. But and here's Superman to
save the day again. All right, So I want to
(36:25):
go back to the whole Travis Kelce thing. He had
a big drop and it becomes a turnover. Just just
say this out loud. Ten time pro bowler, number one
sports podcast marring a pop star leads his team in drops. Now,
doesn't that sound like a former Hall of Fame player
(36:46):
who's playing in his last year. I know what it
looks like, but it even sounds like it. And listen,
he won it life. I'm happy for him. The Kelsey's
are great, but he's a distracted, regressing player, and and
you know, we said this.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Is his last year.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
A lot of the what's ailed, what's illed, the which
already hurt the Chiefs all year, is they've been in
these big spots and Mahomes, who's still in his prime,
is looking for Kelsey and he finds him and it
doesn't turn out the way you wanted to turn out.
So last year, last night was fitting for what the
Chiefs had become this year. A lot in big spots
(37:25):
is that he's looking for his guy, and his guy
has got a really popular podcast and is a great
former player who now leads the Chiefs this year and drops.
So a lot of what they're dealing with last night
was really symbolic of what has happened to the Chiefs
in big spots. They don't look as athletic. There's a
(37:48):
big drop and he's had a remarkable career. But think
about this is that I was looking it up this morning.
Grunk is the same age as Travis Kelce and Gronk's
been in TV for years, like it's time and here's
Mahomes after the game on Travis's future.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Every season I've had with him these last few years,
I try to cherish because you know, you never know.
He got himself in great shape this year, and he's
played great football, and he'll have the option to do
whatever he wants to do after the season. But I
know one thing is he'll give everything he has the
rest of the season to try to give us a
chance to make a playoff run.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It's very difficult when you're winning, and he is not
only winning, he's winning it life. He didn't want to
talk to the media after.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
He's gotten wildly popular, almost like NBA Instagram popular for
a variety of reasons. But I thought watching him last
night and watching that play, it was very symbolic of
you know, it doesn't look right, but it also doesn't
sound right, like I'm all for podcasting, I'm all for
(39:02):
marrying the richest pop star in the world. You know,
I'm not a moralist. I'm not envious. I think it's great,
But I think this is sort of what this year
was going to look like. This is what it was
going to look like, and it is in a primetime game,
in a standalone Sunday night game, this is you put
(39:24):
the popular team on and again, this is how dynasties end.
You win Super Bowls and you dominate, you win big,
and then you win barely, and then you lose close
and it's they don't get the pass rush, Chris Jones,
isn't this dominant. They can't get people off the field
on third down, they can't convert on third down, and
(39:45):
their star weapon leads the team in drops kind of distracted.
I means guys had like seven eight nine. I think
a couple of years ago he said he had ten surgeries.
I'm not sure that's the number, but this is what
it was going to look like. You said they wouldn't
make the playoffs. I thought they'd make it as a
wild card team. I picked Denver to win the division.
But I was watching last year, and I watching it
(40:05):
last year, it was there's a reason. There is a
skill to winning close games, but there's also a reason
for losing close games, and your eyes are telling you
the reason.
Speaker 7 (40:13):
Technically, they're not eliminated from the playoffs. They won't win
the AFC West. They just need a million things to
happen to get to the postseason.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
It feels over.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
I think your topic about the rebuild, you said at
the top of the hour, that deserves it.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I don't think it's a reboot. I think there's a
bit of a rebuild here.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Yeah, they had some dead wood on defense, offensive line, yeah,
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