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Here we go. We got a good one today.
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Tim Reem from Team USA stops by Nick Wright to live.
It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well,
it's official. The mess is over. Brendan Soresby is going
to enter the Supplemental Draft according to the Athletic Little
(00:54):
Messy gambling situation there So college football's not over there,
there's going to be games in the fall. The death
of college football has been greatly exaggerated.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But let's talk about this.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Young men are highly impulsive seventeen to twenty four years old.
It can be alcohol. It can be gambling. It can
be adderall to stay awake for midterms. It can be cocaine.
It can be steroids. I saw it when I was
in college. Binge behavior more than any age group seventeen
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twenty four year old men, and Brandon Soresby got addicted
to gambling. Yep, let's get him help. Let's get him help.
Texas Tech defended him and was doing that, interestingly, when
he got an injunction. It actually galvanized college football, which
it's always been every conference and everybody for itself, Notre
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Dame still not officially, all in a conference.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's the sport.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Take care yourself, or at best, take care of your conference.
This young man will go to the supplemental draft. He
will get picked by somebody six', three, mobile accurate and
a gambling. Problem let's hope he gets that fixed and
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goes on and has a fruitful. Life he's really. Talented
but college, football have you ever noticed? This we argue about,
everything the size of the, playoff who gets into the,
playoff if the future of nil is good or bad
for the, sport the transfer portal scheduling imbalance for years was,
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inequitable And Brendan sorosby's eligibility is the latest drama we argue.
About we don't argue about THE nfl like, that, right
just which team is? Better and that's because pros sports In,
america and THE nfl specifically has great, leadership so a
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little bit of turbulence doesn't crash the, plane just like
good parents don't like, kerosene don't ignite your Daily Tuesday
wednesday drama inside the, house and don't burn the house.
Down but because of the fractured leadership in college, sports
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also known as THE NC, doublea every mess turns into
a bigger.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
ONE i, mean THE NC.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Doublea wasn't prepared For, nil wasn't prepared for the transfer,
portal wasn't prepared For Brendan.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Soresby are you really? Shocked wasn't really.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Prepared it was Networks fox AND espn who really kickstarted conference.
Realignment THE, ncaa, ohways feels like it's playing catch. Up
that's why we've actually had more little dramas with gambling
in pro, sports but they're quickly. Solved black and white.
(04:06):
Contractual So i've said for years this has been my.
Rant college football is, fantastic but instead of having A
ceo like A Dana white with A, ufc it's more like.
Boxing every, commissioner every promoter fighting for his self interests.
Hopeless hopefully this wakes the sport, up But i'm not.
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Hopeful gambling and dice games been around since three THOUSAND.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Bc gambling is going.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Nowhere you can write your precious columns about the ills of.
Gambling been around, Forever it's going to be around for
the rest of.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Time in.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Sports they've been doing it In europe long BEFORE. Us
when it's, monitored there are, boundaries and it's smartly, governed it's,
fun it's an additive and it's a story as old as.
Time Barry, diller one of the smartest guys ever in the,
media just made a bid to buy CASINOS MGM y
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because in the world OF ai going, forward it's. Concrete
you can't duplicate that. Experience it's not going.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
ANYWHERE i.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
E it's time for real leadership like THE nfl or
THE nba Or Major League, baseball black and white, contractual
everybody on the same. Page this was a mess that
didn't have to come to, this but it, did inexplicably
and not. SURPRISINGLY i hope the kid gets. HELP i
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think he's really. Talented college football was always going to survive.
It Here's bruce feldon the last week from our show
On Brendan.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Soresby the rest of The big.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Twelve who is right now apoplectic that this retired judge
In texas granted this injunction given how much he, bet
how often he bet on his own team when he
was In. INDIANA i mean was this was tens of
thousands of, dollars thousands of vets In given the history
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of THE, ncaa this is like the one rule that
it seemed like THE ncaa had been held firm on
that you cannot break and if you, do you're basically.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Banned it all worked, Out we're all going to be,
okay all root for the kid as he enters the supplemental. Draft,
Okay SO i was thinking about this With. Whimby you,
Know i've always joked With Michael. Jordan it's as if
he didn't really enter the league until he started winning.
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Championships people forget That michael jordan first series Against milwaukee knocked,
away first three series in THE Nba, playoffs lost all of.
Them you'd think he never missed a. Shot With Michael,
jordan the beginning was. Chopping he was a ballhog and
not a great. Teammate at the end of The wizards was.
Pathetic wemby is twenty. Two he just faced a, smart,
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veteran well, coached Physical knicks, team. Shocking it didn't go particularly.
Well even prodigies Like Peyton manning consider this finals For
wemby like the first playoff game for AN nfl quarterback
against a really veteran team that's on a, heater like
That tennessee team That Peyton manning faced in the. Playoffs
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he completed forty five percent of his. Throws his passer
rating was sixty. Two twenty two year old, athletes even,
prodigies are not built to walk into pro sports and dominate.
Men The knicks have Men Mitchell, robinson Kat josh Hart,
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og big strong, men and THE nba, officiating WHICH i
am a fan, of in the, finals is going to
let the big. Pay that's why so few champions in
the last eight years One denver has been led by a,
center and he's a non traditional.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Center so you, know the bigger they, are the harder they.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Fall in, sports the higher you, climb the harder and
longer the. Fall so if he would have lost in
The Western Conference, Finals, wemby we would have lauded him
for the. Effort you took the defending champ seven games,
instead he, wins it goes to The, knicks and they
were a bad matchup for. Him they ended up being
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a bad matchup For, Cleveland, Philadelphia, atlanta And Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
City are The knicks?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Great, no but they are built to give a twenty
two year old Rail Finn center. Problems so, again go
To Peyton manning's first playoff, game go To jordan's early.
Career it's just not built for, young great players to.
DOMINATE i hear this all the. TIME i watched these
(09:01):
clips Of Matt damon And Ben affleck talking about their.
Careers you'd have thought they just Wrote Goodwill hunting in
the dorm, room gave it to a, director and it was.
Magical it was a ten year cycle of. Rejection Joe
rogan a podcast. Sensation Joe rogan's almost. Sixty he was
(09:22):
grinding doing eight minute sets In boston comedy. Clubs but
here's nineteen twenty and twenty, one he now fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Eight it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Easy success is, hard and the key threadline for all great, actors,
writers athletes. Relentlessness you're gonna get knocked, down you gotta
get back. Up wemby on learning from this finals, loss
comparison anything.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Before this is the biggest lesson of my, life the
biggest learning. MOMENT i can't tell exactly what the lesson,
is but we're learning from that for. Sure, Uh i'm
learning more than any other time in my. Life before.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
College football is gonna be. Okay wemby and The, spurs
similarly are gonna be. Okay all, right J, Mac Tim
reim stops, By oh, Boy Brian. Windhorst yannis wants to
go To. Miami that is his. Choice we have thoughts on.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
That, Really, miami who wants to go play With bam
at a bayo and what they.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Have nothing on their.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Roster it's like a lateral move from the walk TO
i don't see it.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Done that's.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Crazy you don't want to play With bam on a?
Bayou but what's? It what is that gonna get?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
You you're beating the knicks of The.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Pacers, well you'd beat you am the greatest defensive front.
Line i'll tell you who you'd be good, Against San.
Antonio bam And yannis is built to be The Wemby.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
COLIN i could probably get a ten day contract to
play for The Miami heat if They if that's their,
roster those two, guys that's. It they're gonna have to
give up so. Much hokez is, Gone Tyler hero's.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Gone, no they.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
DON'T i If yannis has the, leverage he tells every other,
TEAM i won't sign an. Extension, Suddenly miami does not
have to give away the. Farm this is a rare
opportunity for AN nba star who was loyal for thirteen
years to say, NO i got three great years. LEFT
(11:29):
i will not sign an extension with anybody But. Miami
how much would you give? Up, Suddenly miami's offer is
very close to everybody else's. Offer yannis has a lot
of power. Here often international players don't want to play that.
Card i'll Defend. GIANNIS i would play that. Card coming up, next,
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now one of the smartest guys in THE nfl is saying.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It Shador sanders looks, really really. Good that's Next The.
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Podcasts we saw a stat ABOUT i don't know five
weeks ago That Shadoor sanders Broke Tom brady's record for
most merchandise. SOLD i, said it's very Tim, tebow but
he can actually. PLAY i don't Think Shador sanders is
(13:35):
a bad. KID i think he's a little, immature a
little silly for my. Taste BUT i think he's got real,
talent AND i think he was underdrafted in the fifth.
ROUND i, said at worst late. SECOND i think he can.
PLAY i think he's big, enough accurate, enough mobile. ENOUGH
i think you can win games with. Shador i'm not
saying he is a great franchise, guy BUT i Think
cleveland the last couple of years has aced the, draft
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AND i think they're gonna win games, year not two or, three,
six seven or. EIGHT i really believe. THAT i think
they have really good, players they have an offensive. Coach
and Here's Andrew barry On shoudure's off season.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Development listen to.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
This he's had an excellent, Spring. ANTHONY i mean the
past eight to ten weeks and really probably beyond, that
really the past six. Months with you, know as a rookie,
player in particularly a, quarterback you learn a lot your first,
year and especially if you don't start a full, team
start with six sub. Artists gets he started seven, games
and you kind of go through the. Year it's adjustment
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going to THE, nfl and then you get a chance
to catch your breath and, say, okay well here are
the things THAT i need to work. On here the
THINGS i need to, learn AND i think you did
a phenomenal job this.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Offseason you know what also did him a disservice, shoulder his,
Dad Dion. Sanders here's What, no he's a great all
TIME nfl, player a pretty Good Major League baseball, player
a soso head, coach and a terrible. Agent During Super Bowl,
(15:10):
week he cut it up with a lot of hosts
and the overwhelming sentiment WAS i don't want my kids
planned for some of these lousy. Teams the, problem of,
course is the lousy teams are the ones that need a.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Quarterback so he.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Alienated dad, did and dads can do this with their athletic.
Sons he alienated many of the teams that were. Interested,
reportedly some team took him off their board that needed a.
Quarterback So Todd muranovich's, dad there's an argument he did
his son no. Favors Alonzo ball acknowledges his dad forced
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him to wear The Big baller brand, shoes AND i
read a quote this. Morning he, goes to be honest with,
YOU i think one of the REASONS i suffered so
many rookie injuries was the. SHOES i never got hurt
UNTIL i started wearing. Them Lonzo ball's, words not. Mine
SO i Think dion at The Super bowl was glib
and funny and, entertaining BUT i think he alienated. People
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AND i THINK i Think shador can. Play it's a
Hill i'm gonna die.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
ON i think he was.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Underdrafted and, listen sometimes you Miss Brock purty seventh. Round
brock can. Play DO i Think brock has great trade
size Art, no AND i don't Think schador does. Either
BUT i will tell You Andrew berry is really, sharp
AND i they may not have wanted to draft him
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right because of some of the pre draft. Stuff you,
guys he can. Play this is going to become t
bow except a guy can actually win. Games that's what
this is going to. Become And i'll throw this out
there for the. Doubters shador started the final seven games
last year For cleveland and their offensive line was.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Putrid it was ranked thirty.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
First he had touchdown passes in that stretch Than Josh.
Allen you heard, Right he had as many total touchdowns
behind that putred old line As Darnald herbert And Jordan. Love,
okay so you can tell me what you want to.
Hear i'm gonna give you. Numbers he was, productive mobile,
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enough big, enough accurate, enough and has a good eye
for the deep. Ball and, again back to back to back,
Years cleveland's done very well in the.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Draft jmack with The.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
News, no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
This is the Herd Line.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
NEWS i can't believe that segment about The Cleveland brows
is gonna keep me laughing all. Week, bro you love
The Cleveland. Browns you're the one Collin. Love be careful about.
Love All i'm saying is All i'm saying is your
eye on a. Team you start looking at their. Players
they got this cap thing With deshaun to get.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Over they have.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Playmakers go look at their, draft look at their first five.
Picks no team ace their first five picks better Than
Cleveland Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Browns all, right let's get started with an actual, good bad.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Team did you see what happened To spain?
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yesterday colin unbelievable performance By Cape verde, yesterday specifically their, Goalie,
vauzenia a, journeyman a forty year old. Journeyman you know
how they SAY nhl goalies stand on their. Head this
dude was standing on his, head making save after, save
Keeping Cape verde in the game and ultimately resulting in
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a zero zero tie Against. Spain it would have been
one of the biggest upsets In World cup group play, History,
colin if they had somehow pulled off the. Win BUT
i think they only had one shot on goal in
the second. Half Here's John, strong the great announcer with
one of with a call On vouzenias one of his great, Saves.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Dan ruiz For roatree.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Ro tree cookarea back to Ros inter stayed at home and.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
It's got a pain of.
Speaker 10 (19:07):
Price though it pops off the cross bar.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
To fall, up it served.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
The forty year old turn him back Time percena with
a huge.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Safe.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Incredible now the subplot here is this guy, again journeyman,
keeper forty years. Old he had fifty, thousand fifty Thousand
instagram followers before the. Game within hours he soared to
five million followers On. Instagram, Colin it's. Insane people don't
really realize how big The World cup. IS i, know they're, like,
OH Nba finals AND Nfl Super, bowl all this. Stuff
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The World cup dwarfs all. THAT i don't know if
there's a story In boston now that they ran out
of beer At hennessy's because The scottish fans are boozing
so heavily that The World cup is just. Bonkers every
today we get amazing. Games colin just it's just been
such a. JOY i know you're loving. It any quick
on a forty year, old that's a, man he's. Forty
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turning Back. Spain all, right let's move on to a
interesting story in THE Nba San Antonio. Spurs, colin coming
off a difficult, loss obviously walked off the court at
the end of game. Five and now they're catching. FLAK
i see people Blasting wenby as a. Jerk, oh he's.
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Arrogant he didn't even shake hands after. Losing, Well Draymond
green has now chimed. In he's calling it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
A lack of.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Leadership take a listen to see.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
Them walk off the. Court it was disheartened and We
i'll blame it on. You i'll blame it on lacking
the leader to show them, that, hey this is what you,
do not walk. Off there's a way to, win and
there's a way to. Lose and walking off the court
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now looking you're killing his eyes ain't.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
The way to.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Lose he's not, wrong but this is not the first
time that's happened in THE nba OR nfl Or Major League.
Baseball you lose your, pissed you walk. Off come, On
i'm not the end of the. World, well people are
really trying to Bury Wemby, colin go, ahead go.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Ahead, WELL i mean The pistons did this WITH mj
and it it's, stained you, know that relationship Between michael And,
isaiah AND i think IT'S i think it's bad. FORM
i think hockey's always understood the value of. IT i
think soccer and hockey do a really good job when
games are. Over you, know it's this feels a little,
sullen a little, temperamental a little, youthful, yeah a little,
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Bratty and so when you do stuff like, that you're
gonna get, hit DOESN'T i think the criticism some of it's.
WARRANTED i mean they're, young BUT i mean even at
the college, level you know you're supposed to you're supposed.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
To, yeah, YEAH i, MEAN i don't think at the
end of the.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
World BUT i don't have ANY i don't have a
problem with the. Criticism you, KNOW i don't care if
it's easy to, say, well you're, upset get over, it
learn to. Cope that's what being an adult. Is you
got to deal with some things that don't go your. Way,
yeah they learned a. Lot Like wemby said about.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Themselves What i'm specifically getting weirded out by is In,
america we love to build up athletes and these. Superstars
oh they're, Great they're so, amazing and the second we
have an opportunity to tear them, down we just want
to knock them down a. Peg colin two weeks, ago
we were talking About, wemby the face of the, league generational.
Talent he's gonna be the greatest player. Ever he took
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down the defending Champion. Thunder and now because they lose
a tough series against against a Great knicks, team a
historical next, team all of a, SUDDEN O, wemby he's
a terrible. Guy look at the flagrant.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Fowls, well they're not shaking hands at the top of the.
Hour now that THE nba season is, Complete i'm going
to do my top ten players as of TODAY i
would build around for the next three. Years, okay not,
Surprisingly wemby's near the top of the, list SO i
know three. Years, yeah that means that you can be
an older. Player you can you know the next three,
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years who WOULD i build around, production, durability, efficiency elevate
others beyond, yourself not just scoring a bunch of, points
so that those are the things that matter to. ME
i think leadership matters over three years because you know
you're on Your if you look at AN nba basketball.
Team one of the joys of The, knicks one of
the things it was the. Culture The knicks felt like a,
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culture like a real. Thing they changed, coaches but they
didn't change. Cultures it's The villanova. Guys so and AND
i Think wemby totally relates to That spurs. Team they're,
young they're. ASCENDING i don't think anybody in that room doubts.
HIM i think they're.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Fine totally.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Agree all, right let's go to the final, Story, Colin
this one surprised.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Me Arch.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Manning we all know he's gonna be the favorite for The.
Heisman texas is one of the best.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Teams in the.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
COUNTRY i Believe arch will be going to The. Jets
we finally get a franchise. Quarterback but not so, fast my,
friend Said Steve Sarkejian. Colin he Thinks arch could actually
stick around for the twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Draft here we.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Go arch really loves college, FOOTBALL i really. DO i
think he loves The university Of. Texas you, know he
does pretty good THROUGH. Nil you, know he's got some
pretty good endorsements going right, now which is a credit to.
Him and obviously the lineage of the last name and
the brand of The university Of, texas all those things coming.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Together but again on the same, TOKEN.
Speaker 12 (24:24):
I won't be surprised if he declares and decides to
go to the, Draft BUT i think some of that
is depended, upon you, know how we play as a
team this, fall how he plays. Individually knock on, wood
injury free.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Football, YEAH i MEAN i think a lot of. PEOPLE i,
mean after That Ohio state. Struggle he struggled for the
first six games last, year and we're, like, oh he needs.
COLLEGE i don't think by the end of this year
we'll say he needs.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
College BUT i you.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Know there WAS i remember When Matt liiner came back
to college for a year and people, said, well he
didn't love you, know he's got to go. Pro it's
going to hurt. Him you'll never get that money. BACK
i THINK nil has added a contemplative wrinkle to a college,
athlete where most of the college athletes basketball or football
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that stay in college another, year they're, smarter more well,
rounded better players with that extra. Year, now THE nfl
doesn't love it because they feel like they get. Less
you're coming in with more. Injuries you've been tackled, more
you've been hit. More you, know THE nfl wants you
to come in, young, spry and, Moldable and there is
(25:36):
a feel like if you come in at twenty five
as a running back or a tight, end you've had
a shoulder surgery or, two you've been beat, up we're
not getting as many great years out of. You but to,
THAT i would push back on THE nfl and, say
even the teams that draft, well a majority of your
draft picks four or five years later.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Are not on your. Team they're.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Not even if you draft Like, seattle you give guys
up because you can't afford. Him so this will be
this will this will Be arches only a second full
time season as a. Starter SO i think it's gonna.
BE i think he's gonna start with much more. Confidence
But i'm fascinated to watch it play. Out he's got
he's got a better old line this. Year last year
(26:18):
he was starting behind a bunch of. Kids now THAT
i think they returned four to five offensive line, starters
so it should be a prettyer.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Aesthetic, YEAH i will say as a running, quarterback he's
putting himself in harm's way every time he leaves the podcast,
right and and that can lead to you, know you,
know you don't need concussions or major. INJURIES i don't
see a world where he stays unless he's as bad
as he was last. Year for the first half of the,
season it was pretty Clear colin right, by like Mid, october,
WELL i don't Think archie is going to go to the.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Door even his mechanics early last, year everything felt off.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
First year as a.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Starter, now like you, said for full year under his.
Belt he's got the, MOMENTUM i, mean the nil, package
he's got the awesome receiver they transferred From.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Auburn they're.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Loaded if he's a letdown this, YEAR i guess he could,
Stay BUT i don't see that.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Happening jmack with the, News well that's the, news and
thanks for stopping by the. Line so let me Describe
Brendan soworzby is going to go to the Supplemental, draft
and that's happening pretty, soon and then he's going to
have like there's going to be a you apply for,
it you've got some pro, days and then there's the Supplemental.
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Draft the way it works is every team in THE
nfl can make a bid on, Him like we would
take him in the, second we would take him on the,
fourth we can take him in the fifth. Round whoever
has the highest. Bid somebody, Says i'll take him in
the first. Round you get. Him arizona could, say you,
know we're gonna give up a second round. Pick arizona
gets him and then has to do in the twenty
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twenty seven draft relinquish that second round. PICK i Think
arizona and The jets should strongly consider. It but you
know what TEAM i actually Think Brendan soorsby in a
supplemental draft makes the most sense for.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
The Dallas.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Cowboys dak has had two serious, injuries they have no
real backup plan beyond.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Him they're.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
They're good enough at the top of their organization after
this draft to give up a second or a third round.
PICK i Think dak's maturity would Help Brendan. SORESBY i
think that. MATTERS i Think pittsburgh's, interesting but The roonies
are too. Conservative they wouldn't draft. HIM i AND i
think it would do him well to be in a
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room With Aaron rodgers for a. Year BUT i Think
dallas makes. Sense The cowboys owner is not risk averse
like The bengals. OWNER i Think cincinnati should make a.
Run what If burrow gets hurt? Again what If dak
gets hurt? Again what are you gonna? Do Brendon soorsby is.
Talented that's not that he's six, three two thirty and moves.
Well he's, talented But jerry loves, attention he loves. Sizzle
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this kid went to high school In Texas, denton which
is just outside Of. Dallas SO i Think dallas makes
a ton of. Sense And Jerry zo has said whenever
things get too, static he gets. Restless And dallas, Again
dallas is frontline, talent AND i Consider Caleb downs frontline
talent even as a rookie. Safety he's going to be
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a pro bowler here pretty. QUICK i Think dallas has
a very good frontline, talent but they have no plan
After Dak cincinnati With burrow with multiple two, Injuries dallas
dak two. Injuries what happens if there is a Third
you do not want to give up tons of draft
capital to find a. Quarterback and this kid is. Talented
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he is a really talented. Player here Was BROWNS Dm
Andrew berry last week On.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Soresby everyone has made.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
MISTAKES i THINK i really asked you. Questions they asked number,
one like is this a bad? Person or did they
make a bad? Decision and then the second piece is, Like,
okay what are they doing after the, fact whether it's
to really where it's to correct the behavior like, this
like a is this a pattern of decision? Making and if,
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so have they done something to stop the? Pattern or
is this an isolated Incident because the reality of it
is like.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
We're all going to screw.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
UP i said this yesterday like a lot of judge
people out. There kid got addicted to. Gambling it's, real
it's not make. Believe let's help him. Recover Texas tech
was trying it galvanized the rest of the sport Against
Texas tech goes to the supplemental. DRAFT i Mean Jerry
jones gave up a fourth round pick For Trey. LANCE
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i think Swords me's a better. PROSPECT i think he
throws a better. BALL i think he's similarly. ATHLETIC i
think he's got good. Size, Well Colin, well would you
Draft it depends on the. Situation IF i Was arizona
or The, JETS i. Would i'd probably give up a
third round. Pick IF i Was, Cleveland i'd sleep on.
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It BUT i do want to see How shadour. WORKS
i don't want more people in the quarterback, room BUT
i you, KNOW i think it's worth the role of
the dice if you're The Dallas, COWBOYS i really, do because,
again there are teams in this league that can't throw
away a second or a third round. PICK i, Mean
dallas has their defensive line, fixed their offensive line is in,
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place and ascending two, receivers Quarterback, Overshown Rashaun, Gary Caleb.
Downs on the back, END i Think dallas is high
end talent's. Good maybe they don't have a ton of,
depth but you, know If dallas won ten games next,
year nobody be. Shocked they've got the playmakers tight, End
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they've got a guy they.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
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Speaker 1 (31:53):
Empacific, Well he's been around basketball for a long. Time
he was AN nba chant WITH us first thirteen years
in THE nba teams also most notably The. Spurs he
is joining. Us He's Antonio daniels now The, pelicans a television.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Voice so.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Listen the Coach Mitch johnson got a lot of. Heat
BUT i want to talk about. This wemby played about
twenty eight minutes during the regular. Season now in defense
of The, SPURS i, SAID i think The spurs are
a great organization for him to go. To they're going
to take the long. Road they're going to not play
him eighty. Two they're not going To SO i was
all on The spurs getting. Him they'll know how to
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let him grow. Patiently but when you go from twenty
eight the way THE nba officiates the regular, season to
forty minutes a game the way THE nba officiates the, Finals,
ANTONIO i think they. DIDN'T i think he looked overwhelmed physically. Late,
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oh we just lost. Him we'll get him back in a.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Second we'll get him back in a.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Second.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah that that that people. Forget this.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Only sport In america that's officiated differently in the playoffs is,
basketball home played umpiring first base umpiring doesn't change in the.
Playoffs right LIKE, nfl it's you know you're gonna get
pass interference less than you probably want as a fan
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playoffs regular, Season but THE nba is. Different the longer
the playoffs go, official step back and let the players.
Play so here Is wemby who'd never been to the,
playoffs and not only Is wemby in his first playoff,
series then he faces a, physical red Hot Adult knicks
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team and the refs step out of the. Way we
bring Back Antonio. Daniels so SHOULD i criticize The spurs
for not having him prepared for forty? Minutes or is
this the reality of your first?
Speaker 10 (33:53):
Finals, well this is the reality of THE nba as a.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Whole this is where we.
Speaker 10 (33:59):
Are you look at game one Through game eighty, two
the way the game is. Officiated when you're talking About
game eighty, three it's a completely different. Sport it's, Basketball
but the amount of physicality that's allowed is it's an.
Adjustment guys don't know what they don't know what's the.
Alternative you're going to play winby thirty five to forty
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Minutes in the regular, season you're not going to do.
That this is why.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Experience is so.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Important so this Is Victor womanauma's first, rodeo no pun.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Intended this Is Sevan.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
Castle And Dylan harper And Mick johnson's first. RODEO i don't, know,
honestly From game one Through.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Game eighty, two how you.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Prepare a player for the physicality that they're going to
have to endure for the rigors of the. PLAYOFFS i
don't know how you can possibly do.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
That, WELL i, mean you're you broadcast and you were
on the floor for some of these finals as a former,
player is it shocking sometimes to watch what is allowed
in the paint in the?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Playoff, yes, well.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
It's not even what's allowing the, paint it's what's allowed.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Period it's what allowed.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Period this is Why i've told you, Before, colin WHAT i,
wish and even THOUGH i know it'll never, HAPPEN i
wish what THE nba would do is for every, series
the officiating crew that Officiates game one.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
That would be the crew for that entire.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
Series because you know how difficulty is as far as
adjustments or.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Concerned when you get one crew.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
That's going to allow physicality in game, one and then
you get another crew that's not really going to allow
that amount.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Of physicality in game.
Speaker 10 (35:33):
Two then you get a different crew in game, three
so you're constantly trying to adjust to the way the
game is being.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Officiated IF i have one crew in game.
Speaker 10 (35:41):
One, now as a, player as a, coach as an,
analyst and as a, FAN i know AND i can
expect how this series is going to be officiated.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Throughout, listen The, knicks or a third seed in the Weaker,
east struggled early Against, atlanta SO i didn't see it.
COMING i thought they were a good. TEAM i didn't
think they were a great. Team have you ever played
on a team like The knicks where the whole may
have been better than the individual parts and you are
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just playing a lot like every Nick kat was playing
a defense he's never played. Like have you ever been
in that space where it's like it is it is a,
collective it is, coaching it is, momentum and it sometimes
it's hard To you're better than you thought you.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
Could, be no, Question but the thing is the better
that the SITUATION i was In collin didn't lead to
me and the Team i'm going to reference like.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
It did The New York. Knicks it led The New
York knicks To Hoiston larry O'Brien.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
TROPHY i think back to WHEN i was with In,
seattle With nate McMillan And Rashard lewis And Ray allen
And Luke written that were and we were picked to
come in last in The Western conference and lasting in
a wet. Division we end up winning fifty two games that.
Year we end up winning fifty two games and we
played the second. Round we lost To San Antonio spurs in.
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Six In, Seattle Tim duncan hit a bank shot to
beat us at the. Buzzer we were that miss shot
away from going to game. Seven in The San Antonio
spurs ended up winning the championship that. YEAR i know
That philly where it's like everything starts to click at
the same. Time BUT i tell you what we had
in common with This New York knicks. Team The seattle,
team just like This New York's knicks, team was full
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of guys that were given up one by other. Organizations
so you had a ton of guys that were playing
for each other that had chips on their.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Shoulder you, know you look At.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Jalen, Brunson Michil, Bridges Josh Hart holds The alvarado go
down the, List Karl Anthony, Towns landry Shammittt Jordan.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Carkson all these.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
Guys have been with other Organizations Jalen brunson and were
given up one by other organizations that moved them and
put them in this position now to collectively accomplish what
we just.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Saw you, know person very, Well you've got a good
eye for. It how surprised are you That brunson has
become the most clutch offensive player in the association over
the last. YEAR i, mean they're net rating in the
fourth quarter is the best? Ever are you?
Speaker 7 (38:14):
SHOCKED i, MEAN i would lie to, you got.
Speaker 10 (38:17):
IT i would be lying to you IF i, said,
oh you know What Colin medisot is.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Coming, NO i, Didn't, NO i.
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Didn't tictsit's always twenty twenty after the fact that we
see someone accomplish something miraculous like what we just Saw
Jalen brunson.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Do like it's easy to say that we all saw it.
COMING i. DIDN'T i.
Speaker 10 (38:36):
Didn't AND i tell you, what there's not a player
in this league right now THAT i would take in
the last three minutes of a game Did Jalen brunton
and he's six foot two in the. League that is about, pace, space, size, athleticism, speed,
agility and a lot of that is Where Jalen brunson.
Lacks but what he lacks in, speed, size agility and
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athletic ability he.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Makes up with the.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
Mental he makes up with the understanding of angles and
his ability to really use his, body like we haven't
seen someone his size.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Due, yeah there's a little bit Of Steve nash to,
it not not, totally but the one handed. Stuff there's
a Little, nash you.
Speaker 10 (39:15):
Know the crazy thing to think about comment think about.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
The makeup of The New York knicks, right think. Away
the roster is.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
Constructive their best back to the basket player.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Is six foot.
Speaker 10 (39:25):
Two their best at playing with their back to the,
basket at backing guys down is the six foot two.
Guard it's amazing to watch what we just Saw Jaylen
brunson and The.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
New York knicks of.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
College all, right he's always. Great Antonio daniels thirteen years
in THE. Nba always love your, insight your energy and.
Perspective it's good seeing, You, Bud you, too my, BROTHER
i Love Antonio. Daniels that is really funny actually That Jyalen.
Brace you know, What i'm gonna do this top of the,
hour and it'll get, PUSHBACK i, guarantee because everybody, said
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how can you Have before he got banged, UP i,
Said i'd pick og as the Best knicks, Player brunson.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Second Now brunson's the. Finisher but it's a.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Three AND d league and og body, size rebounding tip three,
POINTERS i think. Gms any Scout i've ever talked, TO
i got a couple of scout. Guys you ask him
about The, Knicks they're, like let me tell you some
Og nick stolen From toronto and they gave up two
nice players to The. Raptors but so would you build
Around brunson given, size given you know he's got kind
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of a quirky, game would? You that doesn't mean he's
not a great. Player so at top of the, Hour
i'm gonna go ten players in ORDER i would build.
Around AND i consider everything, productivity. DURABILITY i do consider, size, frame, leadership,
maturity elevating. Others we'll see If brunson's in. There but
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he's fun to watch and he's easy to root FOR i,
mean we've always Loved. Guards we never buy the shoes
of the, bigs we buy the. GUARDS i don't know
If brunson's got popular, shoes but he's incredibly.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Relatable if you're asking, me J, mac who you got
next three, Years brunson OR, sga no doubt about, it It's,
brunson no. DOUBT i don't care about THE. MVPs sga
has been on a loaded. Team i'm Taking, brunson who's super,
clutch proven that wan at every. Level, colin you're looking.
Down that means you have sca ahead Of. Brunson damn, it,
man what's wrong with? YOU i thought we were really
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working on some stuff. HERE i see the hot take,
artists your Guy bill out. There oh, Well brunson better
career Than Steve, nash two TIME Mvp. MIKE i don't
know what's going. On people are losing their minds over
This knicks.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Title that really ARE i think it's a situationally great.
Team like the last eight, champions none of them are.
Great they're situationally. Great denver was, great not the next
year