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July 6, 2026 40 mins

In this hour of The Herd, Colin doesn't seem too upset about FIFA suspending Flo Balogun's red card, as he explains why it was issued improperly to begin with. And England playing Mexico in Mexico City lived up to its billing. Later, Colin reacts to a report that LeBron "broke up with the Lakers" before the Lakers could. Finally, Colin shares some love for the lovable Norwegian bruiser, Erling Haaland.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Here we go. It is a Monday.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
The biggest soccer match in the history of this country
is tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's on Fox.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
It is in our greatest soccer environment, Seattle, Washington. It's
the United States that got Follerin' Balligan backed against Belgium
doing a lot of whining today. If you listen to
my show for years. In fact, it's the only rule

(00:52):
I've ever had the company that I own the volume.
This is the only rule, first day I start of
the company to today.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
One rule. Get it right.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Don't worry about being right, don't fall in love with
your ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Get it right.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, soccer's always been done this way wrongly. FIFA got
it right. The red card was atrocious to a player.
Everybody knew it, and then they used a VAAR review
system inappropriately. The VAAR is supposed to check the footage
in normal speed. Slow mo can be for off sides,
but in intensity arguments, intensity debates, you're not supposed.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
To use it.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So soccer has checks and balances, they have referees, then
they have VAR and then they have the FIFA Disciplinary Committee.
The great advantage America had is there are days in
between games, and we stood up and went objection your honor.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
You gave us the speeding ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
We weren't speeding, and then you try to confirm it
using a camera instead of a radar gun. So you
got the call wrong and the process wrong. Tradition and
precedence can't trump accuracy. I've been on this for years.
Be nimble, be flexible. You've got to get it right.

(02:14):
So the red card was an atrocious call. You got
that wrong, and then you inappropriately use the VAR system.
So the call was wrong and the process was wrong. Well,
this sets a dangerous precedent. No, it doesn't get stuff right.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
No it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Don't worry about precedents, you know. I this is starting
to feel a little bit. Let's be honest, fifteen years ago,
would there be this global outrage. No, this is starting
to feel a little bit like everybody's.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
A little concern that not only have.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
We closed the gap, if we win tonight, it's down
to the Elite eight. Brazil's gone, Germany's gone that it
feels a little bit like that, and Belgium's reaction feels
like a low self esteem like Jets Cleveland Brown's NFL team.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
This is outrageous, It is unfair. Guy's got a game tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
What awful messaging to your players totally distracted. I mean,
America was on with it. We were on with it,
we were playing without Balligan. Not a lot of whining
Raseio Pochentino, bad red card. We've moved on. Belgium. Look
at the messaging they're sending to their players tonight. So

(03:36):
I don't like it at all. I mean, if I
was Belgium's coach, my take is, well, we've been better
than America for fifty plus years in soccer. We're still better.
We don't care. Wouldn't that be the message? Belgium feels
like that college football program complaining about the ball they
got and then they show up for the ball and
get run out of the building by an inferior team.
The difference is we're not the inferior team anymore. So,

(03:59):
I just think it was a horrible call, inappropriately reviewed.
I'm reading it here as written by FIFA. The var
can check the footage in normal speed slow motion rebate
replays should only that's the word here, should only be
used for facts like position of an offensive player, goal,

(04:24):
no goal, offsides, not offside, it says here, should only
be used for that. You can't use it in an
intensity argument. Why because everything looks more intense in slow motion.
Film directors in Hollywood understand that. Slow it up, up
the music, slow it down. Oh, it looks so dramatic.

(04:47):
It was clearly unintentional Belgium officials bad messaging. Alexi Lawless
on the Balligan red card appropriately being overturned.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Surprising but very very welcome news to the US men's
national team, obviously to Balligan here.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
But I will say this, it.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Is now USA versus the world after this decision, because
any support or affinity or benefit of the doubts kind
of just went out the window with this.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay, Listen, I don't worry about that, you know. I
hear this from time to time from the media. America's
standing overseas is not very good, right, now I go
overseas once or twice a year.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I always get treated great.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
No, I don't wear a gigantic USA lapel pin, but
I always get treated great.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I'm not really worried.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
What a country that can't figure out air conditioning things
of us? Okay, if you can't get ice in my cocktail,
I'm gonna move on love visiting like living here, you know.
I just my take is, well, this is the way
we've always done soccer. Well you've done it wrong. And
by the way, you just created a VAAR system. Back
in what twenty eighteen, you've been tweaking stuff. Baseball tweak stuff,
NBA tweak stuff, and tweak stuff. Sport tweaks all the

(06:02):
time to get better. I don't follow cricket. I'm sure
they've tweaked so slow mo can alter context and perspective.
That's why var created this system to be used for
offside or not goal or not not in intensity arguments.

(06:23):
The law is written it is not to be used
for boy, he really lowered the shoulder. When you'll watch
it in real time and real speed. It did not
even grant a yellow card to go from a yellow
to your out of the world Cup now and for
the next game is a ridiculous lead. They got it right,

(06:46):
FIFA got it right.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay, let's talk about England and Mexico that you talk about,
you talk about live up to the billing.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
One of the great soccer matches, probably the best one
so far. Home Field advantage mattered Mexico. I thought, you know,
controlling possession early, but altitude.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Has a ceiling.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
And in the end, America has this giganic labyrinth of
college sports, NFL, NBA baseball, pro sports. Soccer can be
really hard to follow for Americans. COPA and Conka, CALF
and European championships and five top leagues. And this has
been a great World Cup. Stars brands, goals.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's why last night was great.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Mexico had the passion, but the two best players were
Jude Bellingham two goals in two minutes and Harry Kane.
This has been a great World Cup because in a completely.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Distracted sports nation.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Even our neighbors like Canada doesn't have what we have.
I mean, We've got NFL, NBA baseball, we have a
soccer league. There's five other great soccer league. I mean,
there's thirty plus soccer leagues.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
In the world.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
There's five top ones Copa and oh it's it's the
euro Championships. It's hard to follow. This World Cup has
been easy. Best players, some old, messy, some young. Jude
Bellingham are taking over the sport. It's England, it's Argentina,
it's France, it's Belgium.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
And that's what it was last night. Great players.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
And by the way, sometimes you know how soccer guys are.
We all have one soccer guy in our social circle
and he's always trying to flex on the sophistication of soccer.
And do you understand what offside is? But do you
understand the back wall?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The nine? Do you know what the nine is?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Take a deep breath there, you know Ethan take take
take a deep breath there, Hunter stars, size, athleticism, skill,
Jude Bellingham, big athlete, Harry Kane, big athlete.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
And by the way, Earling Holland.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Their version of Gronk big, fun, likable, jovial, powerful, massive.
So I'm just I'm watching this last night and I'm
just thinking to myself, this has been such a great
World Cup for a distracted nation. With all these sports
we're getting England, Mexico, Harry Kane, Jude Bellingham. I'm watching

(09:25):
Messi and in Bope and Earling Holland and Balligan his back.
Last night had it all the intensity, the great players, size, domination, goals.
That was as great a representation of this World Cup.
It gave us everything we've seen for two weeks and
we got another two weeks coming. Here's Harry Kane after

(09:47):
the win.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
It was a crazy game.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
We had to find we had to find something. Yeah,
I've just been sitting now. Yeah, on the occasion the
team everything against us, we found a way.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Listen, five of the top thirty three players in this
tournament are from England and they're two best dominated and
I know soccer guy wants to flex and tell us
how we don't know soccer. But England scored eleven goals.
Ten of the eleven goals have been scored by Harry
Kane or Jude Bellingham.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Ten of the eleven. I don't care about your schemes.
I don't care. Those are great.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Players in Azteca Stadium being absolutely dominating in crucial times,
and it jumped through the television. Here are the English fans,
by the way, serenading June Bellingham, who's only twenty three
years old, plays for Real Madrid.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
He's an unbelievable player.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Here they are after the game, serenading him. Hey Jude
from the Beatles, see if you can, can you hear
it a little bit here?

Speaker 6 (10:57):
J Mac.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
That is so great.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I mean, that really encapsulized what this World Cup has
been about. I mean as Teca Stadium, England, Mexico. Two
star players who have scored ten of the eleven goals
for England. One of the favorites on a stack team.
I'll tell you what as that is one of. I mean,
that's a road win. You know, we talked about that

(11:43):
in the NFL, like a road playoff win. It's hard
to go into Philadelphia, went on the road. The weather's bad,
it's hard to go to San Francisco. That just kind
of knocked your socks.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Off last night.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
It had everything.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
You know, you got the red card, you got two pks.
Bellingham dominant Colin honesty. One of the greatest sporting events
I've ever seen. It'll be so memorable, just spectacular. The
soccer has been great. Holland early yesterday knocking out Brazil
basically by himself with his goalkeeper, and then today we
get Spain against Ronaldo in the US against Belgium.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
How lucky are we men?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, it was Ellis And I'll be honest, I work
at Fox. I'm rooting for the big brands. It's good
for all of us.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Yeah, but Argentina's surviving on Friday.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
By the way, well that was dicey. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
And I mean France and Paraguay. Paraguay just uglyaded it up.
And you know, people are again soccer officials are you
know soccer guy is saying this is outrageous. No, when
you don't have the talent, this is what you do.
That is the remedy for a lack of talent and depth,
which is pack it in, don't really have any shots
on goal.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's what you do. I listen.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I'm old enough to remember when Dean Smith North Carolina
created four corners.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
There used to be an offense.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
They didn't have a shot clock in college and if
you just if you wanted to slow a game down,
and I'm not sure if Dean Smith invented it, but
it was called four corners. I played a high school
basketball game that we lost seventeen to sixteen. We played
a gike. We played a massive team in high school
and we didn't have a shot clock. And that's what
you do. That's what coaching is. How do we keep

(13:19):
this close, possibly steal it, get a little lucky, get
a goal late.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
So and it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
But I understand that that was the recipe for success
for Paraguay.

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Speaker 1 (14:13):
Eight eastern, seventh Central and whatever time that is in Albuquerque,
USA against Belgium tonight, this is without question, the biggest
match in the history of the United States between the
Balligan ruling home soil. Seattle's the rowdiest and loudest and

(14:36):
probably most passionate soccer market in North America. I believe
it is not just because I'm from the area, the
steaks and this is our golden generation. It is not Belgium's.
Belgium's a little old twenty eighteen. You didn't want any
part of them. Okay, they finished third, They could play
with anybody. That's where we are now. It's literally the

(15:00):
match of the game a night, and think about this.
Spain plays Portugal, it could be Cristiano Ronaldo's last game.
And that's the warm up act for this That's the
opening act for the United States tonight. Is why Mauricio
Pochettino was hired. It's our golden generation. That's a soccer
term used when you have several players moving into their prime,

(15:24):
youth that has played together for years, thirteen returning players
from the previous World Cup, the stakes, it's American soil.
This was the World Cup to not only get it right,
but keep on moving. We've always been good getting out
of the group stage. That's never been an issue for us.
This is where we've struggled. This is where winds are hard.

(15:45):
And for the record, it's still mostly a pickham. USA
is a slight favorite. So for years you and Iowa
said things like I believe the United States will win,
and you know it was patriotic. It wasn't always justified.
But now that's a mindset, it's a reality. It is
a statement. We really have elite players, midfield and attacking players.

(16:09):
We have remarkable depth. So stick your test out. It's okay.
It actually plays in our favor. That Belgium not long ago,
in a friendly sort of whacked us and dominated us.
It actually plays to our favor. We shouldn't be cocky tonight,
but we've earned it. This is our best group of
skill and talent that we've ever had. We always had athletes,

(16:34):
that was never the problem. We were always athletic. We
just didn't have a lot of passing and nuance and dribbling.
We weren't terribly fluid and open play, and we'd fire
the manager, get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
It was never that we were a counter attacking country,
a little like Paraguay against France. That's how we had
to play one. Nothing was our way to win that
is not tonight, That is not this team, that is
not this moment. Here's Alex Freeman on facing Belgium again.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
The quality they have. You know, Belgium, you know they're
very quality team. They've been known for years. And for us,
you know, it's how can we stay to ourselves and
know that we still want to pay the way we
want to play right and still be able to kind
of cruss a lot, control the ball a little bit, be.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Able to be very direct.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
I think at the end of the day, I think
we want revenge, you know, not only for twenty fourteen,
but for a couple of months months ago where we
lost it them. So I think for us it's it's
how can we get that revenge?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
All right? J Mac now with the news, No, no, no,
this is the Herd line.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I don't think I've ever seen you this geeked up
since we've been working together. I mean, you've always loved
March madness. You and I both love college and pro football,
but there is something about the World Cup that is
so unique.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's so passionate.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
You know, every four years, I mean, and and by
the way, every four year years is really another reason
why I believe FIFA overturning the Balligan ruling is right.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
This is not something you're gonna play again in a month.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, it's not gonna come up next year when the
stakes are big and you play so infrequently.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
You absolutely this much.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
This means so much to countries, their pride, their economic state.
You gotta get it right. You can't worry about precedent
and process.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Just get it right. And FIFA did.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
One hundred percent agree. All right, con let's start with
the NBA.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Some breaking news here in the last twenty minutes, ruiy
Hachi Mora has made a decision. He's going from the
Lakers to the Clippers. Wow, two years, twenty eight million dollars.
This is a bit of a surprise, seeing as Rui
was a lot of people had him going to the
San Antonio Spurs as the perfect fit alongside Wemby on
that front line.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
He picked the Clippers.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
Now, we haven't seen any commentary for Rui yet, but
I'm assuming he.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Loves the West Coast.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
He probably doesn't have to move his family, he doesn't
have to move his kids out of school. Whatever he's
got going on, and he goes to the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
He's making good money.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
He's a tall, long, three point shooter. They got Vogler,
the kid from Illinois, and the draft, so they've got
their point guard for the future. It feels like the
Clippers have been point guard light forever. So they've got
their point guard. And the big beneficiary for both the
draft pick and Rui is they have one of the
better corner three point shooters. I mean, if the Lakers

(19:26):
had the money, he's a guy I would have brought back.
I mean, I understand moving off Luke Canard. There's limitations
on size. I understood moving off Marcus Smart. Ruey is
a guy. If I was the Lakers and had the scratch,
I would have loved to have him back. He's long,
he's a good teammate. People like him, he's good for chemistry,
and he's a terrific three point shooter from the corner.

(19:46):
So he's an additive player in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah. I don't know what to make of what the
Clippers are doing Ruy.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
He surely had better options than this, right con this
is not a playoff team as constructed now, though they
have some good players.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
No, a little bit of a rebuild for two years
or year.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I was puzzled by this decision. But uh, you know,
good luck to Ruiyatchimore.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
The Lakers will gladly a big time miss him. They
were replacing him with that guy from Toronto, Mamu. We're
not gonna try to say his last name on the show.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Left hander six'. Nine he's a small ball. Big he's
a nice. Player BUT i mean, similarly they're not going
to lead you to playoff. Wins But ruey is a
NICE nba player who helps with, chemistry tons of, length
not gonna play a ton of. Defense but last three
years he shoots forty three percent from.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Three, yeah so they'll put him at the, four Brandon
ingram at the, Three woggler And Garland.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Mather Maybe ruy some small ball.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
Five tyler's got his work cutout for him with the paper.
Clips all, right let's move back to The World Cup
colin and the Game FRIDAY i touched on. Earlier Riol
messi And argentina Survive Cape verde was a, really really tough.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Out they needed extra.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
Time the game winner there you see it adds actually
was an own goal off a corner, kick And argentina
survives three to. Two Here's John, strong he And Stu
holden were magnificent on.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
This here he is with the call In argentina Came.
Friday Friday Haddix tomato trying.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
To reset quickly and trying to Catch argentina.

Speaker 8 (21:16):
Napping McAlister can't make the play o.

Speaker 10 (21:18):
Besketball it's, Intrenibal it's, Remarkable it's almost.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Unbelievable It's Cape verday for a second.

Speaker 9 (21:27):
Time tonight time the.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
GAME i love this, game, MAN i just love. It
that's the goal that dreams are made. Of oh my,
god want to finish top corner to too.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
Came.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
On so if you're listening on the, radio surely you've
seen the highlight a billion. Times it's a contender for
the goal of the. Tournament you, know if they did
like a at the end Of March, madness they do
one shining, moment that might have been the call and
the goal of the.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Tournament.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
COLLINS i saw somebody suggest that we should all go
To awa at least at one point in our, life
To Cape verde and pay them back for what they've
given The World. CUP i, MEAN i watched this AND
i thought this actually could help. TOURISM i, mean it's
just so unbelievably wonderful what they've, done and we needed
to the only thing this tournament didn't have they. Provided

(22:26):
it's been a favorites tournament at well known, stars iconic.
Brands this is why it's been a Perfect World. Cup
we Needed Cape, verde we, needed you, know a country
where a lot of people weren't actually sure where it.
WAS i spent some time this weekend checking it out
and looking at. It, yeah so they you, know let's
just LETS i.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Love the big brands in. Sports, yes this.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Was this has been a little bit of icing on the,
cake the classic, small tiny Nation.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
Cinderella they played The cinderella role to. Perfectly NOW i
will say, this now that they're out and you look
at the remaining, teams you could make an argument we.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Are The cinderella left in the.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
Tournament but based on what's going on in the news
the last twenty four, Hours europe seems to HATE us
and our soccer team.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
And everything around. It but that's for next.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
Hour, Anyways let's wrap up quickly with The France paraguay game.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yesterday, No i'm, sorry this Was july, fourth On. Saturday you,
KNOW i skipped.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
The beach to watch THIS i WISH i hadn't Because
paraguay just uglid it.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Up it was not a pleasurable to.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
Watch game shots were fifteen to Five france touches in
the opponent's box, Right paraguay had four all.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Game, Long france had twenty.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Five like this was a, blowout one sided bape with
THE pk talking trash and the.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Keeper That paraguay team is a.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Bunch they were really gooning it up and making it
like not fun to.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Watch but let me just say. This in The World,
cup if you're going to allow more teams, in then
you're gonna have to allow this style of.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Play there is no, WAY i, mean we wouldn't muck
it up to this.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Level but if we Played, france if anybody Played, france
you want TO i, mean you want to burn, minutes
you're trying to get you're trying to push the game,
along keep it knott at at nil or if you
score a goal one. One this is the way you're
gonna Play. France this is the way you play a
DOMINANT nba. TEAM i mean we saw the same. Thing
when you WATCH nba, playoffs more skilled, team less skilled.

(24:25):
Team you know what are The pistons trying to do
ugly up games if they're playing The knicks or a
more gifted offensive. Team So paraguay was doing what they
had to do to.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Compete, yeah it is.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Weird we just Watched wenby A frenchman get beat up
in THE nba, playoffs and now you got to watch
him bape getting elbowed and shoved throughout the. Tournament, LIKE
i don't know what it is about The. French by the,
way fun, Subplot france is now contesting a yellow card
to one of their stars At. Lease, yeah and if
you watch, It, colin The paraguay kid totally. Flopped they

(24:57):
were jostling and he just throws himself backwards and and
now the soccer.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Purists are, like, no that's just part of the.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
Game actually, no because you can get suspended.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
For accumulation of yellow.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Cards So francis, like we got to protect our start
and at least is showing out in this.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Tournament, YEAH i don't.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Know The World cup is just, Captain i'm obsessed with.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
It if you could, WELL i. Think and also the.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Attendance we broke a, record revenue broke a, record ratings
broke a record and so you, know baseball is the
one sport In, AMERICA i say is steeped in low
and history and baseball And Rob manfred has done a
remarkable job over the last three to four years in tweaking,
stuff and soccer similarly is going on a global growth.

(25:39):
Streak this has been the most Important World, cup not saying,
best but in terms of growth of the. Sport it
matters That america is all in attendance, records rating. Records
it does matter it. Absolutely we have absolutely been. Able
we will get Another World cup based on our. Performance
we have greater, money we have greater. Infrastructure it does.

(26:02):
MATTER i know there's a lot of soccer people out
that don't want to hear. It italy hasn't made The
World cup in the last Three World. Cups we can't
rely On, italy you, Know that's not what you do
when we try to put These olympics In greece And.
Brazil it can be problematic OR socii when you're trying
to put these global, Events america needs to be a
big part of. This AND i do think one of

(26:25):
the tweaks that has to be done with this is
being able to review cards that we have days between.
Games referees make. Mistakes we've got all these, layers, referee
VAR Fifa Disciplinary, commission it's checks and. Balances they're there
for a. REASON i have no problem with With france

(26:49):
protesting a yellow.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
CARD i saw.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
It i'm with. You it doesn't. Appear it appears to
be more of a flawed.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
YEH J mack with the.

Speaker 8 (26:56):
News well that's the. News thanks for stepping by the.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Line So Ramona shelbourne is a great reporter the covers
of THE nba and a lot Of lakers, stuff and
so she has a really interesting story, today And i'm
just going to give you the two, things.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Two biggest.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Things to put my arms around here to simplify, it
because IT'S i strongly encourage you to go read. It
she says About lebron and The. Lakers he might have
been willing to take a pay cut from fifty two
and a half million he'd made the season. Before sources
Told ramona if The lakers explained how they planned on
relocating the.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Money.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay the second, thing it was the final year of
an eight year marriage that was often transactional and, cold
AND i Think ramona nailed. It we talked about. This
Maybe i'm saying that BECAUSE i agree with, her BUT
i said this last. Week this was not a love.
Affair it was. Transactional it never felt Like, Kobe it

(27:58):
never felt Like, worthy it never felt Like Michael, cooper
it never felt LIKE i, mean it.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Was a transactional.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Relationship And lebron sort of aged out of The lakers'.
Plans And lebron has always loved that, Movie The. Godfather
he acknowledg it's his favorite movie or one of his favorite,
movies you, know In The. Godfather we all know this
is you, know people pay their respects to, you, right
and if indeed you do Leave cleveland twice or you

(28:28):
do Leave, miami, hey it's nothing. Personal it's just. Business,
Right it's just. Business well that's what The lakers. Said
it's nothing. Personal this was always. Transactional you didn't feel
like a, founder you were more of a. Consultant and
The lakers moved. On so now now it Can AND
i also think The lakers.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Were classy about.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
It you, know The lakers Allowed Rich paul And lebron
to win the press, conference to win the post move social.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Media say we love. Him it was.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Great, Well Misha lebron can retweet, it but we're going
to let you guys win the.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Exit and you know.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
When the interesting part of this is When ramona, reports
according to her, sources That lebron was willing to take
a pay, cut But lebron wanted to see how the
money was being, spent and The lakers are, like we're
not going through you. Anymore we're going to spend it
how we want to spend, it And lebron took that
as A things have, Changed BUT i my question was

(29:34):
always do The lakers have the courage to move Off
Lebron Because lebron's people were, Like, Okay i'll take the,
cut what.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Are you doing with?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
It and that may have worked five years, ago but
now it was, no we're not going to ask you
for permission to make moves On Walker. Kessler we like,
him we're buying. Him so this always felt Like lebron
and The lakers were creating an. Alliance two great, houses,
right and now one is on its way to do something.

(30:07):
ELSE i still think it's LIKE i keep hearing About,
cleveland And i've SAID i Think Golden State cleveland make
the most.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
SENSE i Think Golden State lebron.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
FITS i don't think he MAKES i think he Makes cleveland,
better BUT i think he's a bad. FIT i, mean
what DID i criticize all year About lebron In La
luca doesn't. Defend Austin reeves, tries but he's not a great.
Defender at this, Point lebron isn't, either so redundant offensively.
Liabilities similar, Defensively harden doesn't play, Defense Donovan mitchell doesn't play,

(30:37):
defense And lebron at this point doesn't want to play any.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Defense SO i don't.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
THINK i don't think he solves the problems For. Cleveland
would he make them, better, yeah but not a championship level.
TEAM i do think he solves The warriors. Problems The
warriors need another play. Initiator If Steph curry gets banged
up or in Foul, trump they need another play. Initiator
and despite his, Age lebron is healthy a lot right

(31:04):
he is usually ready to. Play here Was jason timp
last week on the new Look lakers Without.

Speaker 10 (31:10):
LEBRON i don't understand why they weren't In lebron's ear
early in this, process and In marcus's ear early in this,
process and Telling luca Look we're gonna Get Walker.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Kessler Walker kessler.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
Is the, future but we Need lebron And marcus as
a stopgap solution at the three and four so that
You luca can compete for a title while we build.
This letting them walk the way that they did they.
Could Marcus smart went for two years thirteen million. Colin
he was their most valuable role player last. Year i'm
stunned that they didn't apply any value to those two.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
GUYS i think they just wanted to largely start.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
OVER i think they looked at it and, thought, OKAY,
Jj reddick And, luca that's our. Future austin reeves for
the time being as our, future and now let's go
get big and.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
WIDE I i don't think it was.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
ANALYTICS i Think Marcus smart aged out of their, Plans
lebron aged out of their, plans and, remember you can
improve it team AND i think The lakers will be
similar to last, year maybe not as good offensively Without,
lebron much better, defensively much, younger much more. Athletic but
in THE, nba it's very hard to do anything beyond incremental.

(32:23):
Improvement this is not THE nfl where you can cut
anybody at any. Time you can get out of salaries,
anytime and you have a draft that has seven rounds
and often teams can get up to, eleven, twelve thirteen.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Picks that's not what this league.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Is outside of the top sixteen players in a, draft
you start running out of. Players you go to the
even the late, first early second round historically you run
out of, players so you get one college, kid often
nineteen years, old not really ready to. Produce this draft
gave you about eight guys that will play very early

(32:59):
and be very. Good but this is not THE. Nfl
you've got to improve. Incrementally so if The lakers go
from you, know mid fifty wins to high, forties but
they're much better, defensively the roster construct is.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Better to. Me that's what this is all.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
About it's not about squeezing out two more, wins three more,
wins maybe four more wins because you Have Marcus smart
And Lebron.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
James be sure to catch live editions Of The herd
weekdays and noon eastern a Em.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Pacific it's a huge day at THE Fifa World cup
as The round of sixteen. Continues, First Cristiano ronaldo And
portugal take On La mimamal and Rival spain at Three.
Eastern then at, Eight Christian pulisic and The stars And
stripes look to make history with another knockout round win

(33:45):
as THE usa takes On. Belgium two big matches today On.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Fox Well Erling holland has sort of captured the imagination
Of americans because he kind of answers.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
The question.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Right the question's always been In, america what if our biggest.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Strongest athletes played?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Soccer and here Comes Earling holland From, norway who's six,' five,
very gronk, the smile. The joyfulness he's, a finisher like he,
Comes In He's. Harry kane he's. A Finisher and bope's
the wing and. The Creator and bobe's got, seven goals
but on two hundred and forty, Three Touches earling holland
has seven on. Ninety nine he's a, knockout guy not

(34:26):
a lot, of finesse, big, Strong powerful and you know the,
TRUTH is nba has always been a tall man sport
AND the nfl has always been a big strong. Man's
sport soccer's a lot. Of things it's. Very technical, messi's
five seven hundred and fifty, five pounds and he's the,
greatest player most believe of. All time peley was not a,

(34:47):
giant man But earling holland is sort of the answer to,
the question what if Are Like george kittle? Played soccer
What if Gronk Or tony gonzalez? Played soccer what it?
Looked like would it look? LIKE that i, don't KNOW
because I think america we've always actually, had athleticism and

(35:07):
we've actually. Had Size josie altator always felt big. And
powerful you could have put him a wide receiver or
Linebacker right he was, a big. Strong guy our team
right now, is actually by, our standards smaller but or
and we're much. More skilled, the passing, the dribbling. The
fluidity we're just more skilled now and we're kind, of

(35:28):
smaller doesn't mean we're. LESS athletic i think it's the
fastest team we've. Ever had it's also the most skilled
team we've. Ever had here is Both of holland's goals Against,
favored brazil.

Speaker 11 (35:39):
And it's the way they've chosen to attack.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
The job shelled. Her up he's been.

Speaker 11 (35:44):
Busy Since account holland goes again no way Lead The northern.
Lights shining it was Inevitable. Early holland, yet Again shelter up's.
Been brilliant he Came on holland he was. Another one
he's got.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Another one how?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
About?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That extraordinary.

Speaker 11 (36:07):
Just phenomenal he can't, help IT? Can i he just can't.
Help scoring.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Oh that is.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
So Fantastic greg olsen was on about a week ago
when he first got a glimpse.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Of him here's what.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
He said there's this ponytail blonde guy running Around. ON
norway i google. His name, i'm like who the hell is?
This guy this guy is. A freak he's. SIX' five
i don't know, what he weighs. But he's jacked he runs.
Like a deer he needs TO come to. Tu next
year i'm giving. Him an invite He's the soccer gronk

(36:40):
that he needs to come Get out to. Nashville next
year that guy is an absolute animal and he has
a lot of. Fun to watch and there's not a
lot of guys walking the planet that look like him and.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Run, like, him yeah no, it's you know he has
BEEN somebody that i think. We can embrace he's what
this is what Would happen if, gronk Played soccer and
i'm not, sure that's true but he's. The classic heavyweight
he's going to. Finish the, fight you know ninety nine,
touches seven goals so. His Incredibly efficient harry kane similarly

(37:13):
is just A finisher the golden boot. Race Right Now, And, Bope,
Messe Earling holland harry Kane, And, Again france. ARGENTINA england
involved i think that's what makes, this so fun, is
YOU know As i Watched mexico and england LAST night
and i didn't really have. A rooting Interest i think

(37:33):
england's the better team OBVIOUSLY so and I think Between
jude And Bellingham, and harry kane those are the two
best players probably by a lot, in THE game so
i WAS kind of i Also didn't love, mexico the,
fans you Know keeping the english team up fireworks. BY
the hotel i. Hate that craft that very feels very.
College TO me, and i think Let's At, the world,

(37:53):
cup be gracious, like YOU know but i WILL tell
You i guess norway's the, underdog going forward but they
don't feel, Like IT necessarily. Like i thought what Was. Interesting,
Is brazil brazil like, before the tournament there was a
website down south or a blog where they took fifteen

(38:17):
the biggest Brands At the world cup and they compared
them to a, college football program and The comp On,
brazil was, texas and god. Is it, right it's like, you're,
always like man they're really talented and they always leave.
You WANTING more and i watched. That entire match in
My takeaway is brazil's going to. Win this thing i'm just.
Not sure when. And they didn't they are. Now is

(38:40):
done he, announced HIS retirement but i think the tournament's,
given us Everything and tonight rinaldo's. Potentially last moment my
guess is IT Is, AND usa belgium i will say
now my Staff is SAYING, brazil Was usc and i'm
outraged BY that because usc.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Never under performs they Kind of DO. Texas and usc, you're,
always like man they, got a lot they got a.
Lot of speed they looked the part in the hotel
lobby and, then you're? Like what? HAPPENED? My Bad. Usc
NOT texas.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
But i think Tonight what's interesting jmac is that this
is still largely viewed tonight with the Inclusion of flow
balligan as. A toss up I. Do think seattle if
we could pick A Place in north america to, Have
this game seattle is where you would choose IF.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Your Team, usa so colin let.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
Me ask you so in the last, twenty four hours
you know we used we were a great Story During.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
This WORLD cup oh us. Is playing great they, got
a defense they.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Got, A scorer polisic i believe we've kind of become
the Villains Of.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
This world cup you're hearing some. Of these countries. This
is outrageous how? Could THIS happen and i wonder.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
If we adopt THIS kind of us against, The world mentality,
Like right now pochatino's probably talking to, his, troops saying guys.
Everybody hates us they all want us out and put,
your phones, way lock in let's. KICK some, BUTT i
mean i think this is a crazy setup for.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
This, game tonight.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Well and it doesn't matter because THIS tournament's. On, us soil,
yes so again if It, was in argentina, or you
know it Was, IN salth, paulo i mean there are.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Other parts of the world where it.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Would be intimidating but it's okay to be the, villain at,
home you. Know The villain Remember, lebron left Cleveland. Went
to miami he wasn't The. Villain in miami when they
were hosting all those Playoffs, Series in miami lebron.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Wasn't the villain
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