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Thanks for making us part of your day. It's been
so long since I did a show. I feel like
a student driver. I just don't want to back in
anybody over the next hour. My buddy John Middlecoff, former
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NFL scout, I did a pod with him last night.
He's going to be joining me for the next two weeks.
Jason McIntyre with some well deserved time off. He's over
I I'm not even gonna tell you where he's at. Okay,
So I think everybody's missing this. I gotta tell you,
and I've been on this now for a while. I
think everybody's looking through the wrong end of the telescope.
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I think the Dodgers are driving baseball, just like I
think the Yankees twenty years ago, twenty five years ago.
We're driving baseball, not ruining it. When George Steinbrenner would
dominate the hot stove League. So the Dodgers go out yesterday.
I was told when they got Justin Tucker from the Cubs,
who Chicago couldn't get out of town fast enough. Dodgers
picked him up, that was ruining baseball. Yeah, Justin Tucker's
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hitting two thirty. Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker's hitting two thirty. Oh,
Edwin Diaz, that was gonna ruin baseball. Guy missed the
first eighty five games. Oh Tani's gonna ruin baseball. He
moved up I five. They set World Series TV records
last year, best in nine years. You keep telling me
they're gonna ruin baseball. They're driving baseball because they're a villain.
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The Yankee Steinbrenner were a villain. So yesterday they go out.
It's a three month rental. Trek Scouobell of the We
had them on the show not long ago during the
World Baseball Classic.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Great picture for the Tigers.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
By the way, The Yankees also added at the trade
deadline they added a great bat yesterday. So the Yankees
and the Dodgers, you know, number one in two in
baseball revenue, both top three in payroll, both added great
players that will help them down the stretch. The difference
is you don't fear the Yankees because they have a
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second tier front office. Brian Cashman and his crew have
remained employed, much to the chagrin of people that love
the Yankees. So the Yankees added a great bat, they
added a great player, but you don't fear them. What
you fear is the research and development of the Dodgers
in their front office. And you can argue that Detroit
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got players that can play immediately. But the reality is
two of the three players the Dodgers prospects good not great,
prospects good not great. Two of the three they gave
to Detroit were eleventh round draft picks. Shine them up
and polished them off and refine them and developed them,
just as what the Rams do.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Maybe it's the water in LA.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They find guys in the fourth round, the fifth round,
the sixth round, seventh round that can actually play. So again,
you can tell me it's true in baseball, The truth
is about the Dodgers The reason they've been so hyper
aggressive the last two years is they can see the
cliff coming. Mookie Betts is declining fast, and they got
six years on the hook for Mookie Betts's contract, Freddie
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Freeman's thirty six O, Tawny's hurt again. Tyler Glasnow and
Blake Snell have great stuff, can't stay healthy. Max Munsey
mid thirties, ta Oscar Hernandez passed his prime. The Dodgers
see what's coming. They can see the cliff, so that's
why they go out and get a Yosi. I mean,
think about this last year and the World Series. In
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Game seven, they they needed a thirty seven year old
non starting utility infielder to pinch hit and hit a
home run. And in Game seven they needed Yoshi, their
top ace, to come out of the bullpen to beat
the Blue Jays, and Toronto totally outplayed the Dodgers in
the World Series. I just watched the Dodgers get bullied
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by the Red Sox over the weekend. Empty seats, obliterated
by the Red Sox, swept by the Red Sox. Dodgers
since July first, from a five hundred team, they got holes.
They're old, they're EXPENSI they got little San Francisco forty
nine er. They're talented, but they're old, expensive and brittle,
and they see the cliff coming. So they are going
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all in on this stuff to brand build, and I
get it. Their takeaway is, listen, we're gonna have to
make some We're gonna have a down season here. Even
McVeigh had a down season with the Rams. Everybody's got
a down season. But the Dodgers have the number one
farm system in the baseball world as well. That's after
giving up prospects, So that's a pretty good indication. It's
not just the money. You told me Edwin Diaz was unfair.
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He never pitches. You told me Kyle Tucker was unfair.
Guy can't hit until two weeks ago when he went
on the heater that got him all the way up
to two thirty. You told me, Oh Tani was unfair. Well,
the Yankees and the Dodgers both bit on him. But
go look at the current payrolls, go look at the
current revenue, go look at him. The difference is you
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don't fear the Yankees because they're not particularly well run.
So you keep telling me that the end of baseball.
I think they're driving baseball. I can remember I worked
at the other network. I lived on the East Coast,
and that was a really cool place to live for
a decade because it was right in the heart of
the Red Sox and Yankees. Everybody hated the Yankees and
they just dominate the postseason and they dominate the Hot
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Stove League. And now everybody in New York is upset
with the Dodgers and what they're doing. No, you just
don't have a very good front office, and the Dodgers
have the best front offd in North American sports, not
just baseball, in all of North American sports. The Dodgers
do everything well. It'd be one thing if they had
a lousy farm system. No, they're number one at that too.
They're number one at everything. Dave Roberts on the trade
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in the uproar.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It just seems like there's always blowback with us. People
are passionate. We feel good about it. There's nothing that
we did that no one else couldn't have done. You know,
I just lowed our front office. You know, we have
to have the players to be able to pull something
like this off. And you know we still got you know,
arguably one of the top two or three, or one
or two or three farm systems in baseball, you know
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a day later. So it's a credit to a lot
of people in this organization.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It certainly is.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And again everybody's like, oh, this is not a rental.
They're on the hook for Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, oh Tawny.
I mean they got they got guys now that are
old and expensive and brittle. This is a rental. This
is brand building. Let's get one more. But the cliff
is coming. Dodger fans who are really invested in this team,
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they see it. This is what happens when you get
old and expensive, you get brittle. So they're going all
in and I totally support it. It's not ruining anything.
And I don't think there'll be a strike. I'll get
to that later. So I when I was gone for
two weeks for the record, a labor intensive vacation, labor intensive,
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the NBA announced that Lebron James Adam Silver said, we're
waiting for Lebron to make a decision because we want
to get the schedule right. And then Lebron made a decision,
and two days later they announced the seventy six ers
will play in the most national TV games. Okay, that's
with the New York Knicks just being crowned champs and
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Wemby's going to be the face of the league and
forty one year old Lebron will have more more games
on TV than anyone else. And by the way, you're like,
well whatever, yeah, fanatics said James sold the most jerseys
ever recorded for a player joining a new team across
all sports in the first two days, including show hated
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the Dodgers. Who's an international sensation as well. So you
can go ahead and keep hating on Lebron, But this
is two things to me. Number one is you just
forget how big branding is ac DC. That's who I
listened to him my eight track player as a kid.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Ac DC.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Still had one of the highest grossing tours the last
time they toured within the last was it eighteen months
a couple of years ago? Yea, yeah, yeah, Elton, John Springsteen,
Bon Jovi, Stones, Mick Jagger, what is he seventy eight
eighty years old. Pepsi regularly beat Coke in the Pepsi Challenge.
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Coke dwarfs Pepsi as a business brands matter, and this
is something that needs to be said. Lebron James is
the most influential player in NBA history. Jordan's the best
shoe salesman. Lebron's the most influential. And here's why we've
never had more vitriol. We've never had more platforms. Average
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citizens have never had the ability to have their opinion
heard directly.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
To whoever you're criticizing.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Could be Drake, it could be Lebron, it could be
Tom Hanks, it could be a politician. You can directly
send stuff to him. And yet Lebron twenty four straight
years the discussion leader three times. He last year number
one social media views, three billion views last year crushed
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ant SGA Wimby Jokis crushed them.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Think about this.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Michael Jordan played for nine years and said I need
a break, it's too much. Michael Jordan famously hide to
this hotel room nine years. I'm gonna play baseball. This
is overwhelming. Lebron's like year twenty four, Bring it on.
Think about that, twenty four years with all these platforms,
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more access, more coverage.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's established now.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
When Michael first got into the league, it wasn't global
Michael helped make it global. It's been global day one
with Lebron. More hate, more vetril, more access, more coverage.
MJ after nine years, I'm out. I'm gonna go hit
some baseballs. Twenty four years in a row.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Bring it on.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I'm here so I mean, listen, He's gonna drive reportedly
four hundred and fifty million dollars of business into the
Philadelphia economy. Who needs a data center, just acquire Lebron.
Here's Jason timp on what Lebron brings to Philly.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
When Lebron sees a real opportunity to win a title,
that dude will do anything. And by the way, that's
what he saw in March. You want to know why
Lebron did all that stuff in March. He saw them
racking up wins and going into Houston and winning, and
going into Orlando and winning, and they were like, we
can win the title. When Lebron thinks he actually has
a legitimate chance to win the title, he's willing to
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do all of the things. I think Lebron can be
very much a galvanizing personality for a group of young
basketball players that haven't been there before.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
The Lebron haters remind me a little of the crypto
bros who have been lecturing us for years. It's going
to replace the dollar. Yeah, go look at the Dow today.
What is that up another six hundred points. Yeah, I
think we're safe for now. I think I'll buy lunch
with my dollars. You do it with your crypto stuff.
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All right, It's great to be back, Great to be back.
I'm so shocked Trek scoobl is gonna ruin baseball. I
thought Kyle Tucker did six months ago. I was told
that was just gonna blow up to sport. Guy can't hit.
He got hot a couple of weeks ago, Edwin Diazotani.
It's like, guys, every I mean, you know, in one
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of the NBA problems right now, there are no villains.
That's why every time Wemby throws an elbow, I'm like,
that's great for the league. We need an international player
who's cocky and throws elbows. Like most of these international
guys come to America. They're nice, they haven't been westernized yet.
They're not as arrogant or cocky as our players. Wenby's like,
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I'm throwing elbows right now. It's like that is great
for the NBA. Steinbrenner was great for Major League Baseball,
and the Dodgers are And just stop stop telling me.
The Mets spend a fortune, the Yankee spend of fortune,
the Dodger spend a fortune. Only one of them you're
afraid of. And it's not the money, it's that front
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office that never misses.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
For the Dodgers or rarely misses.
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Speaker 1 (13:57):
Everything in life to some degrees of value, opposition or
a time proposition. Is it worth the money or is
it worth the time?
Speaker 8 (14:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I lived in Vegas for years and years. When I
was a sportscaster. In Vegas, you could get breakfast for
ninety nine cents. I mean it was the best. I
would do the eleven o'clock news sports and then I
would go over to the Palace Station have ninety nine
cent breakfast. You know, bud light watch, you know, replays
of games. It was unbelievable. Now it's so expensive in Vegas.
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You're better off going to the real Paris instead of
the fake Eiffel Tower, Like, what's the point? What's the
value proposition? So I like Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I really genuinely like him. I know a couple of
things behind the scenes that don't get talked about. I've
talked about briefly on this show. But he's had people
close to him that have not always been there for
him that should be. He's done some really cool things.
I like Baker Mayfield a lot, but he doesn't like
the fact that the Buccaneers have not given him a
new deal, so he's going to play out his current deal.
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And I like him. But Baker two years ago was
a seven million dollar cap hit. Last year he was
a twenty six million dollar cap hit. This year he's
a forty million dollar cap hit. He's not talented enough
to win big with that. Okay, his last twenty five
starts really good. To start the last eleven, he's stunk.
And you can blame whoever you want, so let me
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use Sam Donald. You know I love Sam Donald. Sam
Donald last year was a thirteen million dollar cap pit.
Seahawks won a super Bowl. This year, Sam's a thirty
eight million dollar cap hit. They're not going to win
a super Bowl. They had to get rid of a
six or four corner, not a lot of those in
Pro football to equal.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And had to get rid of him.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Now he's Eagles, and they had to get rid of
the Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker. Now they drafted late
first round running back out of Notre Dames. Pretty good,
but may not be Kenneth Walker. Seattle will not win
a super Bowl. They'll be good. They're not gonna win
a super Bowl with a great coach, with Sam Darnald,
with a great roster. So seven of the eight highest
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quarterback cap hits last year missed the playoffs. Stafford's the
only one that made it, and that's because the Rams
have been in about a four year stretch where they
never miss on draft picks. They hit on all of them.
So and I love Baker Mayfield, I really do. But
Darnold's a bigger, stronger, healthier, more athletic Baker with a
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better coach than Baker. And because now he's going to
a thirty eight million dollar cap hit, Sam's don gonna
win the Super Bowl. So I mean, Joe Burrow now
is a big Caphit can't make the playoffs on any
given Sunday, Joe Burrow is the best quarterback in the world.
Guys unbelievable can't make the playoffs. They can't build a
legitimate offensive line around it. Josh Allen can't get the
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conference championships. There's an argument he's in that Dan Marino
Lway class as the most talented quarterback ever. So I mean,
it's folks. Jalen Brunson team friendly deal, Tim Duncan, team
friendly deal, Tom Brady team friendly deals. Brady was twenty
years ahead.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Of her on this.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Baker last year as a twenty six million dollar cap
pit couldn't make the playoffs in a bad division. But
what's he going to do at forty so and again,
I I it's like the mob, you know, the old
saying in the mob, you don't mess with people's kids.
I'm a sports guy. I don't mess with people's money.
You make what you make. But there is a clear truth.
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And Jason Light's one of the best gms in the
NFL in Tampa. There's a real look at the numbers.
The more he makes, the bigger cap pit, the less
you have around him. And I bring in Donald because
you know, I love Donald. I always said I think
Darnald's better than Baker, but they're both really talented. I
just think Donald's a more athletic, bigger, stronger version. Baker
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probably throws you know, let me just throw this out too.
Baker always plays better when he's got a chip on
his shoulder, so some of this may just be premeditated.
Baker plays well when he's angry. He honestly does. He
plays he plays he plays well when he's got a chip,
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and so this will tick him off and he may
have a very good year. Here's Baker on not getting
a new contract.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
Disappointing in that regard to to not have, you know,
to feel disrespect a little bit, and that's really the
disappointing part to feel undervalued after you know, thinking you've
earned it. I can sit here and look at other
quarterbacks and peers and evaluate myself based on that and
put myself in certain categories that I deserve to be
compensated for that. And I think I'm a franchise quarterback.
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I've been told I'm a franchise quarterback. It's been said
publicly from ownership down here, and so to not have
a deal done is very disappointing. But I said the
deadline was a deadline.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Okay, nobody's disputing he's a franchise quarterback. And I'm the
guy that's supposed to hate him. I even at the
height of me ripping him, and I did a few times.
I always said, one of the twenty best quarterbacks on
the planet college pro Canadian football.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
One of the twenty best quarterbacks on the planet, not
the biggest, not the strongest, not the most athletic. Guy's
got something. I like him, I really do. I've said,
Tampa Shad sign it. Nobody is disputing he's a franchise quarterback.
Life is a value proposition, and when you work in
an industry with a cap you know again, Vegas used
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to be worth the fake Eiffel Tower. Now just go
air France and go to Paris. It's worth a couple
extra dollars. John Middlecoff with the.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
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Speaker 8 (19:43):
Well, speaking at quarterbacks, Collin, your guy Aaron Rodgers reuniting
with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Obviously they have a long history. McCarthy.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
I think you mentioned early in training camp, did he
wanted Rogers to get some snaps in the preseason, and
then Aaron Rodgers told Mike Silver that, you know, it's
not something that he wants to do, but if Mike
Watson he will. When you look at his preseason snaps,
he has taken eight snaps.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Twenty eighteen was McCarthy's last year, and once Lafleur got there,
you know, Lafleur comes from the McVeigh. No more snaps, right,
forty two years old, Colin, you're you're gonna put him
out there with guys trying to make a career. Sacking
Aaron Rodgers. Maybe some Johnny Tryhards. I listen. I respect
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Mike McCarthy. He knows a lot of football, obviously, but
throwing year old Aaron Rodgers out in a preseason game
seems nuts.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Some of these old guys, Bruce Arians, Tomlin McCarthy, some
of the old guys want their guys to get preseason
snaps in. It almost feels generational to me, where like
the McVay guys they're like, no thanks. Some of the
older guys guys, they liked their guys to get some snaps.
I'd probably side with Aaron on this one. And I
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will say that I read all the stories Aaron reuniting
with his parents, which I think is awesome. This is
a you know, you know what this really proves because
it never we can't you and I know this. It
was ugly at the end in Green Bay between McCarthy
and Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was ugly.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I had people in the huddle that were sourcing it
for me, like it was ugly. It was eye rolls.
You know, Aaron was over Mike McCarthy. It was an
ugly last year together. I'm kind of encouraged that Aaron's like, Okay,
this is probably my last year. Let's just make this.
Let's get the band back together. My guess is as
much as McCarthy is iye rolled by a lot of
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us in this space. Hell, last year, Brian Shanahan was
a hit as a head. It was actually the Cowboys
offense was excellent. So I think I think there's a
high ceiling with the Steelers, a high floor with the Steelers.
I think the ceilings low. My guess is it's a
pretty viable offense. I think there's something powerful.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
You know, most the older you get kind of being
at peace with your home life, your family.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's a really big deal for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
I mean, that's a huge story that has followed his
career for the last decade plus. You know, him posting that,
him talking about it now publicly. He feels like, I
don't know, the most mature version of the football quarterback.
It's all kind of coming together, and I don't know
if it's just August.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I'm kind of buying in the Steelers might be a
little more fun. Offensively, I think they're gonna be pretty good.
Same here. I mean, the defense to me is the
question mark.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
I mean, speaking of offensively a franchise, it was always
terrible on offense with Chicago Bears. Well shows up, Caleb
Williams Ben Johnson all of a sudden, Jalen Johnson, he
had some high praise. He specifically mentioned that quarterback Caleb Williams,
saying he has hasn't seen this type quarterback in Chicago
in a long time.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Honestly, it's probably the best offense I've had in seven years.
As far as going like against him, for sure, I
would say they got a lot of got a lot
of speed, and then really just Caleb's the best quarterback
I've had again since I feel like maybe Nick Foles
if you want to go back that far. But just
as far as slinging, I feel like he's definitely doing
doing this thing. You can see the accuracy, you can
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see the confidence throwing the ball in tight windows. Is
something that stood out to me.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
The bar's low there, Colin.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
This is this isn't showing up in New England or
Indianapolis or San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
This is this is a low bar. But obviously Caleb's
last year he was a magician.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
My question mark to you is sometimes with fastball pitchers,
right guy, especially nowadays, they throw one hundred and two,
it's hard to develop an off speed a change up,
A good splitter, Caleb. The fastball is incredible, and the
playmaking is incredible. Look at Russell Wilson in his prime.
Caleb already showed he even has a higher level than
that in terms of the playmaking. But the touch and
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the fastball is how you become or I mean, the
change up on the wheel route a dumb off. Not
overthrowing a third and five. That's an easy first down.
If he can do that, he'll be an MVP candidate.
If he can't, he's just gonna be kind of a
hit or miss, you know, high ceiling, low floor guy.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, I think when you have that, I mean, I'll
give you an example, another guy that's got horsepower, Josh Allen.
Josh Allen still makes really bad throws. He made one
in the playoff game. I think when you are given,
you know, it's like the old saying, it's almost biblical.
When you have a great singing voice, you're gonna sing
in the shower, you're gonna sing in the car, you're
gonna sing on stage.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You're gonna unleash it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And I think sometimes when you have Dan Marino had this,
Lway had it, Joe Namath had it. Josh Allen has it.
I think Caleb has it. When you have that much horsepower,
we have to judge uniquely because they're uniquely productive. And
I just look at Caleb and I think I'm not
holding him to sixty five percent completion percentage he's got.
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I mean, like Nolan Ryan walked a lot of people.
Nolan Ryan gave you more no hitters, but he was
slightly above five hundred. But when you watch Nolan Ryan,
he could be on any given week, the best player
in baseball dominating hitters. I just think Caleb, I'm gonna
give him a little bit on the like if quarterbacking
is one through ten, one is taking a snap, ten
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is making an amazing play, seven, eight, nine, ten. I
think there's only one football player on the planet that's
close to him, and it's Josh Allen. I think his
one two, three, four five needs some work.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
And that's why Ben Johnson makes a lot of money.
Do you see Liam Cohen kind of took a jab
that he goes on NFL dot com and all he
sees is Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He tells his code, no one's talking about the Jags.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Well, yes, Liam, the NFL you're gonna be pushed down
the ring. But when it comes to Caleb, there's clearly
a lot of hype, a lot, especially now coming.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Into this season.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Isn't he kind of uniquely equipped because of the hype
at USC one of the first big NIL quarterbackschise I was.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
He's in LA and he was with the Trojans. I
was always I know his dad, I know Caleb. I
was always taken back by he was very chill. He's
just he's been. I mean, I think again, when you're
talking about I don't care if you're the late Kobe Bryant,
I don't care if.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You're Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I think when you're great early, like Lebron James, you're
just accustomed to being the focus. And you know, some
people Michael Jordan famously like it wore him out, but
Mike Trout not interested. But Caleb's just always been the
center of attention since high school. And I think he
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just he handles it fine. He didn't let it get
to his head. I think I think the criticisms early
that he was a bit moody, I think that was
totally fair, but he was like eighteen, yeah, getting I
don't think he's near. I don't see the moodiness that
I saw three years ago. I don't see it at
all now, so I don't worry about that.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
I also think that that eber Flus year is gonna
age in Caleb's favor. I would say he won that one. Okay,
we'll say it with quarterbacks here, you know, football's back out.
Raven's quarterback, Lamar Jackson. He's being asked to kind of
expand his game and go under center more now in
this new offense led by Decklan Doyle, and he calls
for a more balanced offense. And listen to Lamar talk
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about some of his new responsibilities youth football.
Speaker 11 (27:38):
I was under center, haven't been under center, said youth football. Well,
consistently under center.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
We do it. We did it here and.
Speaker 11 (27:44):
There in the past. But with this, with this balance
type of offense, I feel like it to help us
out a lot. Identifying defense, letting defense, but again keeping
defense on their toes.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
They have the highest win total in the NFL in Vegas,
and I don't get it. I think Cincinnati's viable. I
think Pittsburgh with McCarthy and Rodgers, will be a tough
out I think, I mean, I think we all Cleveland,
say what you want about it. They've nailed three drafts
in a row. That Shadur's having a great camp. Cleveland
beat Green Bay last year.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
You go to Cleveland, crappy weather, They'll play I'm I'm
you got all new people in Baltimore, a rookie head coach.
I think they have a first time play caller. Yeah, uh,
I'm not that. I'm selling my ravenstock. I'm in a
wait and see mode with Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He's only been under center nine percent of his career.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Now, when he's been under there, I think he's got
twenty five touchdowns, one interception.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But that's a pretty big transition.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Remember Rogers early on with Lafleur, pushback against it, Matt
Ryan when he got Kyle Shanahan. It can be uncomfortable,
but Lamar, to me, the easiest way to band aid
a lot of these question marks. They had the same
coach for eighteen years, right, John Harbaugh. That's a huge transition.
You have all these new coaches, a first time head coach.
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If Lamar plays like an MVP, this team will be viable.
If he has a season like last year in and out,
the Ravens could unravel a little bit. I mean, you
lose your center. You like, how many big catches that
likely make for him? A lot's going to be asked
on the infrastructure, on the front office in Lamar to
kind of carry this thing. I got the Bengals winning
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that division on paper, I honestly don't even think it
should be close. But the games are played on the field,
and this division always gets a little weird.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
In my vacation and I had a few cocktails, I
talked myself into the Browns being a wild card team.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, you did not. I did.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Now, Bernie Coozar walking through that door, what are we
doing here? It's not official, but I was just looking
over rosters and draft. I love the draft so much,
and I'm like, I think I think Shador is undervalued.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I think he can really play.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't think he's great, but I think he's good.
It's gonna be out, Deshaun Watson. You think there's gonna
be a crazy team make the playoffs. I'm telling you
right now, if there's a crazy team, make it. My
boat's Cleveland, and I'm not beauty.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Somebody that's pretty crazy. I think that's that's that feels uh?
I see that one. I don't know if I can
get there. Colin John Middlecoff with the news.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
Heard Line News.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Matt Hasselbeck, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong next hour. How about
Kyler Murray pulling away from JJ McCarthy, Kurt Signetti. I
gotta take Kurt Signetti. John and I talked about this
last night in the podcast. He used to be coaches.
We're cocky all the time. Now we're also politically correct.
Like a coach comes out and like, yeah, we're gonna
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hammer the sec. I covered Steve Spurrier at Florida. Steve
Spurrier was unbelievable. Every press conference was a haymaker. He
was just taunting Tennessee. Everybody loved it. Kurt Signetti does it?
Oh who's this guy?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Folks? A lighting up? Signetti is good for the sport. Okay.
Steve Spurrier, you.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Go back and look at the quotes, and I'm not
like he had a comedy writer like Rodney Dangerfield was
working weekends. He would sizzle for a decade, Sizzle Rivals
and then we all got you know, we all have
to say the right stuff as football coaches. Don't offend anybody.
Signetti blasting the SEC. I think it's funny and coming
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up next the reason I am sure that we're not
going to have a lockout in baseball.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Next in Chicago, it's The Herd.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
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Speaker 8 (31:42):
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we've got regional action with three matchups from across the
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Speaker 1 (31:59):
Urban Meyer two hours from now. Matt Hasselback, twenty minutes
from now, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong hour number two. It
is great to be back. Had a couple of weeks off.
Jmack returns in a couple of weeks and well earned
vacation time. So I've said this before, I do not
think there's gonna be a lockout in baseball.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I just think it's an easy thing in the media.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
To say that that's going to be a lockout, And
I believe had the Dodgers lost Game seven of the
World Series in the Blue Jays not frankly gotten incredibly lucky.
I mean, you got to go back to Game seven
of the World Series. Everything every lever Dave Roberts can
pull worked. It was in one of the best baseball
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games I've ever seen. You got to go back to
like the mid seventies Red's Red Sox World Series at
Fenway Carlton Fisk, one of the best baseball games ever ever.
In terms of big stage the margins are razor thin
on the Dodgers. I do not think there's going to
be a lockout because I don't think the Dodgers are
necessarily going to win the World Series. And I also
think rich guys never get in the way of the
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gravy train. And all these owners are billionaires. They're gonna
move some pieces around. They're not gonna lock it out.
The sport is booming, ratings, revenue, interest, attendance.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Up, up, up up up.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Rich guys tend to figure out solutions when money is flowing.
But here's the other thing. The American media has lost
a lot of the trust of the public. Now now
a lot of people say, oh, that's because the media
is liberal. Well, the media has always been liberal. I've
been in it for forty years. It's always lean left.
But even the sports media, to me has gotten you know,
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like really, I hate the term clickie, but it's a reality.
We everything's a doomsday scenario. Oh sport lockout. I don't
buy it. And I'll give you some just in recent memory,
some ridiculous doomsday scenarios that never transply. Remember this one.
NIL is going to ruin college sports. The little guy
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won't be able to compete. The Indiana Hoosiers just went
sixteen to zero in football, and the biggest guy, SEC
is regressed. The Vanderbilts in Indiana are more viable than ever,
ratings smashing previous records. The NIL hasn't ruined anything. The
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headlines were nonsense. How about this one, The Brendan Soresby
gambling mess will derail the sport. A week later he
was out of college football. A week later, the tush
push fundamentally changing the game. The injury ravaged Niners went
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to Philadelphia and knocked out Philadelphia in the first round
of the playoffs. And the tushpush, by the way, doesn't
work like you.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
How about this.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
One, small ball. That's the new NBA. Biggs getting the way. Yeah,
Walker Kessler now gets paid like a superstar Biggs because
of the emergence of Wimby. Everybody's got to have two.
Good God, the Thunder had two, they drafted another. They've
got three. It's a big guy league. How about this
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USC Notre Dame canceling the rivalry again. This is bad
for the sport. Tradition no longer matters, I said, pump
the brakes, pump the brakes, little sabbatical, little break, It'll
be fine, it'll come back today. Just sign a new
contract a few years. They're gonna play. It's all negotiations.
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I had a source inside USC that said, we're gonna
play them early in the season, not late. We're not
gonna go into the Big ten schedule. Have a game
at Penn State in a snowstorm, and then come home
to LA in the next four days later, go to
South Bend in another snowstorm. LAS like we're a warm
weather school. Will play you early. We're not playing you late,
which makes a lot of sense. All the doomsday crowd
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nil tush push small ball lockout, I don't buy any
of it. Trek Scoobel is a three month rental for
an organization the Dodgers that got incredibly fortunate to win
Game seven of a World Series where everything worked in
their favor. Blue Jay's out hit them, outplayed them. You
know it, and I know it. Unless you're a diehard Dodger,
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you got outplayed. Blue Jay should have won that series,
could have won it in six.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
In the bottom line here is the Dodgers are getting old, brittle,
and very expensive. I mean, mooky bets. The decline is real.
You got six more years of that Freeman month, Sye
Snell Glass. No, they are expensive and they are injury plagued.
Here's Andrew Freeman, Dodger President, brilliant guy. Brilliant guy on
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getting schooble.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Whenever there's a starter level player that is available that
can really shift championship odds, those are the moments that
will be more aggressive. And we've tried other instances and
not lined up and others where we have but I
think being by the backboard and doing everything we can
to put ourselves in the best position with the core
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we have right now, with the way they go about
their preparation to do everything they can to win a championship.
When we can add to that and enhance our chances,
you know we're going to be aggressive to do so.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Okay, so years ago, Steve Spurrier would stick his chest
out and kind of poke everybody in college football, including
SEC rivals, and it was celebrated and it was funny.
Maybe Kurt Signett's doesn't have that Southern twang. He's not
as likable, but he's taking shots at the SEC, and
he's not necessarily wrong here he is.
Speaker 12 (38:03):
The Big Ten is the best league in football. I mean,
we don't run a hype machine up here in the Midwest.
We believe everything's earned, not given. And when we fall short,
we say we fall short. We don't cry at river
wine and complain, all right, and that's why we're the best.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
So over the last three years, SEC fans have begrudgingly
admitted and acknowledged that the Big ten's better. I don't
think they've quite admitted how much better. I've said this,
thank God for the Texas economy, a m and Texas,
Thank God, or it would be far worse. Alabama is
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no longer a national player. They got a great coach,
a great athletic director, and good players. But in the
last three years in the playoff, the Big Ten is
the thirteen and five, the SEC is five and nine. Folks,
it's not close playoff head to head, Big Ten spat
in the SEC four out of four SEC zero and four.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It's not close.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And Texas is the only SEC team in my opinion,
capable of winning a Natty. But I think their schedule
is brutal and they're not going to get the great
seed and they're going to have a tougher road. I mean,
the SEC now is not even getting into the championship game.
So last week sixteen to the seventeen weeks, a Big
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Ten team was right number one, and I think the
NIL is getting it's pulling away. You start looking at
Ohio State, Notre Dame, Texas, Indiana, Oregon. I would put
Miami in there. It's pulling away from the SEC. It's
not getting closer. So I've always done a Super Bowl bubble.
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I do it about four to five times a year.
I put up kind of a super Bowl bubble. The
teams I think can a championship and the ones that
are close. Every year, there's only about five teams that
can win a Natty. If you go back fifty years,
I think five teams can win the national championship. Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon,
Miami Notre Dame. I think SC, Georgia, Texas return quarterbacks,
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return coaching staffs will be viable. But I think their
schedules are tough. I think Texas USC have too many
tough road games. Georgia, I just don't think they're as
good as Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon. Oregon could
be the best team in the country, But what do
you see in that bubble? An independent, an ACC team,
and three Big Ten teams. This year I believe will
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be hammer to nail. SEC fans have begrudgingly acknowledged the
Big Tens for real. I think this year you're going
to see a massive gap. Washington will have their best
team in several years. I think equally talented or more
talented than a couple of those really good Kalin the
border teams. So return thirteen fourteen starters, quarterback, workable schedule.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So listen.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We can say what we want about Signetty, and maybe
he's not likable. He's a little gruff, he's a little intense,
he's a little harsh, but I will say he's not wrong.
You start looking at the playoff and the ball records.
The Big ten numbers look like the SEC numbers six
years ago, like they are pulling away. They're still talent
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in the SEC, but like the top of college football
has always been a country club, but the dues have
been raised