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June 5, 2026 42 mins

Colin talked about the Knicks historic playoff run and why a LeBron move to Golden State makes too much sense. Also, why Jalen Brunson's path reminds him of Sam Darnold and why Nick Saban's comments about the state of college sports seem a bit hypocritical

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Friday,
and a good one. We may have breaking news. Lebron
may be fueling up his private jet ready to fly
to the Bay Area. Oh, the World Cup is getting close.
I can smell it. I can feel it. German team

(00:44):
in town having dinner last night, RPM State getting ready
for the friendly tomorrow against the United States mention national team.
Our show will be well represented. Good to have you
in on a Friday. So it's the New York Knicks
are probably the most likable great or potentially great New

(01:08):
York team ever. Yankees were very polarizing. You know, people
were more into the you know, the Brady Patriots than
like Eli's Giants. Right, they were underdogs and you know,
you could the Patriots go undefeated. It's kind of fascinate.
It's a likable team. It's likable guys, and the Knicks also,
and this is feels unexplainable. If you go to the

(01:30):
first fifteen games of the playoffs, they are not only
the greatest team ever in point differential by a mile,
and the teams they're much better than include the twenty
seventeen Katie Warriors arguably the best team ever, the ninety
six Bulls probably Michael Jordan's best team ever, the eighty

(01:52):
seven Lakers probably the best Magic Johnson team ever, the
eighty six Celtics arguably the best Larry Burr team ever,
and the Knicks point differential blows.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
All of them away. So what do we make of it? Well, Colin,
they've got a lot of lottery picks.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, kat was a number one pick and Michale Bridges
was top ten. But they don't have a lot of
lottery picks. It's a lot of mid and late first
round guys, well, Colin, Karl, Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunchen
are a couple of Hall of famers maybe, but the
most great teams ever like KD is gonna make the

(02:34):
Hall of Fame, Steph Draymond and Klay Thompson, not to
mention Steve Kerr, I mean MJ. Pippen, Rodman and yes,
Tony Kook coach. That's four Hall of Famers plus the
greatest coach ever, the seventy one Bucks. Well, they only
had three Hall of Famers. Yeah, but one was Kareem
the other was Oscar Robertson. Tip of the Captain Bobby
Dandris too. I didn't forget. So it's not like they

(02:57):
have all this natural raw collegiate talent or Hall of
Fame level talent also had this. Most great teams had
a legendary coach Red Arbach, pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr,
Greg Popovich, Mike Brown. He's been fired four times. Well, colin,

(03:20):
I mean, this is the start of something great. Well maybe,
but it's the first time the Knicks have been in
the finals in twenty seven years. And most of the
great teams are parts of dynasties. The Lakers, the Warriors,
the Bulls, the Celtics, all those teams I mentioned, they're
blowing away in point differential, they're part of dynasties.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean, folks.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
The Knicks in the cruddy Eastern Conference finished below the Celtics,
who played most of the year without Jason Tatum and
downgraded on their front line.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Sow, what is happening here?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
What is happening is that point differential this year, specifically
regular season and postseason is overstated. We had a tanking epidemic.
So the good teams had really big point differentials and
the next for one of them. And in the postseason,
which is the one I talked about with the Knicks,

(04:19):
they faced a six, seven and four seed. That's about
the easiest route you're going to get. And the East
was awful, even by Eastern standards, was awful this year.
Detroit was the number one seed. They didn't have a
dependable number two score. So I do think if the
knixt win, and this is what the NBA has become,

(04:40):
situationally excellent teams. Denver for a year was situationally excellent.
Do they have a bunch of Hall of Famers? You
got one? Jokich Oklahoma City? How many Hall of famers?
Well one for sure, SGA. We are in a situ
duationally excellent era. You can't stockpile talent. Jalen Brunson taking

(05:05):
a team friendly deal has allowed them to really on
a nightly basis, have seven sometimes eight guys who all contribute.
Do I think this is a dynasty or Mike Browns,
Phil Jackson, or that this roster is. It's just situationally
excellent and there is something to be said. They feel

(05:28):
very Villanova and very New York and Kat talked about that.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's something that's in the city. You feel that energy
in the city, the grit, the grind, the hard work
you got to put in to make it in the city.
I think we reflect all our fans and their lifestyles
and what it takes to make it in New York
City when we step on that court with the Nick Jersey.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think there's something to it. It's okay to be
situationally excellent and not legendarily dynastic. And I think I
think San Antonio may be the latter, but New York
right now is a favorite and they would be a
little like Denver. Maybe he got a Hall of Famer
or two, but for the year Lightning in a Bottle,

(06:17):
they were exceptional.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Here is another report Klutt sports Brett Siegel Golden State
is open to pursuing Lebron James because they don't think
they can get Yannis. They're very much according to this
source pursuing Lebron James and will do it in free agency.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So listen.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
First of all, Lebron would be an additive. He was
on some nights this year the best Laker player. He
would help. But there's five other reasons that makes sense.
Number one, he's clearly not the top priority for the
Lakers new ownership. It's not a criticism they have to
about Austin Reeves or else. He he leaves and they
get nothing for him, and he's in his prime. Number

(07:06):
two is Lebron's a high IQ basketball guy. Steve Kerr
and Steph Curry's system is rough on young guys and
dumb guys. Lebron's neither. Number three is Lebron can take
the ball at least occasionally out of Steph Curry's hands,
and that matters when players get older.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Steph is also probably in my lifetime, the greatest off
ball player of all time. Number four is and this
is a biggie. We're seeing it with the Knicks. No jealousy,
instant chemistry. I mean the Knicks have they didn't draft
and develop. The Knicks traded for that guy and got
that guy, and traded for that guy. They're like a
college team. Draymond Lebron have vacationed Kerr coach team USA.

(07:51):
Curry and Lebron, who are friends, were on the last
Olympic team, and number five is I know, I know
you don't want to hear it, but Lebron likes California.
A lot of people do. It's a forty minute private
jet from San Francisco to La So I think this
is doable. I think it's realistic. It would be I mean, honestly,

(08:15):
it would be the last dance two point zero. There
are reports all the time that we roll our eyes
at on this show. Yawn is to the Wizards not happening. Okay,
I remember years ago Nick Sabans leaving Bama to go
to Texas.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, he's not.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
This one makes sense, and I'll just say it again.
Say this out loud. Steph Lebron, Jimmy Butler, trade deadline,
he's healing, Draymond Green Pods, and the number eleven pick,
which I believe could be a die Mara, the seven
to three Spaniard shot blocker who's a very sophisticated offensive

(08:56):
hub in college. That is a lineup, folks, That is
a roster that is a playoff team. Frank Is Sola,
covering the NBA for years, had thoughts on the rumors
and reports.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Does make a lot of sense. I think if you
were to leave the Lakers, and I don't know why.
If I'm the Lakers, I'd want to have them. I
think he played really well this season for what you
should expect from a guy who's forty one years old.
He's not going to play eighty two games, and they
needed Luka Doncic. I don't think it's the craziest thing
that he ends up on the Golden State Wars. It
makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. Obviously,

(09:30):
the relationships on whether or not it's going to work
is still really good, and you have Minnesota. It's not
going to be easy in the West. But it makes
a lot of sense, and it's certainly a move I
could see Lebron James making Listen.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
In the history of the NBA, San Antonio, if they
won the title, would be a complete outlier because they're
really young. There have been teams that have been a
little long in the tooth. Remember that Warrior team that
beat the Celtics a couple of years ago. For the
last title. They're a little old. We thought they were
too old. Too old can have some playoff success. Too

(10:05):
young almost never wins a title, and I don't. I'm
not saying it's a title team, but it's a squad
that that is a that if that team won forty
eight games, forty nine to fifty games and was a
five seed, four seed, you'd be shot. They're not Oklahoma City,
They're not San Antonio.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I don't know. Do you trust Houston? Do you know?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I mean Denver's got your kitchen, Neianna, do you trust Denver?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I mean j Mac.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You and I we liked the NBA when I put
that picture up of Steph Butler Lebron pods. Remember this
is the best draft. Maybe in a decade, you're gonna
get a You're gonna get a at least a high
end rotational player out of this draft.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Die Mara, I think you're onto something. I just wonder, are.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
They gonna have to push back the start or push
up the.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Start times right?

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Because these old people, you know, they get dinner at
like four point thirty in the afternoon. They got to
go to Red Lobster for the early bird special. Colin,
this is just an ancient lineup full of sascils. I
do like the idea, but I'm wondering if these stories
are coming out because Lebron needs.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Leverage with the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, I think Lebron wants to remain with the Lakers.
But I also you and I have said this, he's
too good. I mean Tom Brady retired. He retired because
the Bucks were eight and nine and not remotely viable
for a super Bowl. You can talk yourself into this
team thinking if they went into the.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Playoffs and Butler is recuperated.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, they were the oldest team in the NBA
last season, so Lebron's not making them younger. But they're
also going to get two draft picks, or maybe they
use two to get one to get a better player.
But they're going to have a rookie somewhere in the rotation.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Okay, so hypothetically, they're not better than the Thunder, They're
not better than the Spurs.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, are they better than the Wolves? I think I
think it would be an interesting series. I mean, the
Wolves were real, I mean they were real. Yeah, they
were real. They were a real disappointment. I don't know
what to get with Denver I don't. I don't know
what to make of Denver.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Oh, oh my, okay. Are they better than the Luca
Austin Reeze Lakers?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Absolutely, TVD on that TVD.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, their offense was bottom half of the league.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
It would not be with Lebron, that right, and Jimmy
Butler obviously, yeah, they just listen.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
They were eight games under five hundred. Is it realistic
to think that with Lebron, who's always elevated teams. He's
I mean Lebron. When Luca got hurt in the playoffs,
You're like, oh, kind of liable. Yeah, kind of interesting.
You think it's bizarre that they would go eight games
above five hundred with Lebron?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
He averages over twenty and he's still one of the
best passers in the sport.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
By the way, that that would be the best golfing basketball.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Team in the NBA.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
I know you're a big golfer, but Steph Curry's like, awesome,
Lebron always posting on Instagram is golf stuff, you know.
I know Draymond's trying to play, but he can't. Yeah, listen,
I don't know, By the way, are we gonna do
any golf coverage of your swing.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
America doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
They care about the World Cup coming up next.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I know you don't want to hear it, but Jalen
Brunson's got a little Sam Darnold to him and is
Nick Saban just being a big hypocrite?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's the hurt.

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Speaker 1 (14:09):
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Speaker 2 (14:16):
There's all sorts of biases.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
There's confirmation bias, where you predict something and want it
to be true. There's recency bias where you know, something
happens and you get all excited and you're like, yeah,
that's that's gonna that's gonna last forever. I did that
with a Denver Nuggets title a few years ago. I
had recency bias, and there's there's also first impression bias,

(14:38):
where it is hard to unsee things. First impressions are
really really I don't care if it's dating. First impressions
are really hard to break. Jalen Brunson was a completely
forgettable player, second round pick. I mean second round guys
in the NBA takeout Jokis, Draymond Green, they disappear into

(14:59):
the ether. His first two years, he averaged nine points
a game. Forgettable, never made an All Star Game the
first five years. Dallas bailed on him, and I'm guilty
of this. I'm like, yeah, I didn't see him being
All NBA three of the last four years and being

(15:19):
the best quarterback in New York since Nameath twenty six
A night two, back to back conference finals chance to
win a time. I didn't see it. Now I did
with a similar arc in Sam Darnald. Now Donald was
truly I mean, the Jets are Say what you want
about the Knicks they're better than the Jets. But Donald

(15:42):
was thirteen and twenty five, completing like fifty nine percent
of his throws. Brunston was kind of forgettable. We didn't
look at him as an elite talent.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Donald.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
People that I trusted thought he was a great talent,
but he was bad. But that's why I keep saying
about Darnald. So for all of those who loved the
Brunson story, they have to love the Donald story.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
He's thirty five and.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Ten with four different coaches in his last forty five games,
with a passer rating of one hundred. That's Patrick Mahomes'
career passer rating.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
He's top eight.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Sorry, if you gotta say Brunson's great, and you're not
going to hold the early years against him, you're going
to say, well, the Brunson I see now. And the
moral of the story is young people in all industries
develop differently. Okay, I mean Donald was a top recruit.
So was Brunson. Their first team they came into the league,

(16:37):
it just wasn't the right fit. But both were incredibly
good people, hard workers and team guys and winning guys.
So Steve Jobs has a great quote, the late Steve
Jobs he goes a lot of overnight successes take a
really long time. And Jalen Brunson today is a top
five finisher in the NBA. There's no doubt about that,

(17:00):
the top five shot maker in the NBA. Here's the
other thing that doesn't get discussed. Unlike Luca, he's available.
Unlike Luca and Harden, he gives you a really good
defensive effort. He's not a great defensive player, but he
gives you the effort. So you know, unlike a lot

(17:21):
of stars, he's also willing to come off the ball.
He's amenable to change. I'll come off the ball. Harden wouldn't.
Mellow wouldn't come off the bench. Mellow wouldn't come off
the ball. He'll he'll do whatever at say. He's a
winning player. And you know his ability to say I'm
gonna take a little less because I want us to
go out and get guys like og. That's why they're here,
that's why they're red hot. I think that I think

(17:43):
that seeps through an organization. I'll come off ball, I'll
take a little less. I think that's very football ish
in America. Here's Mike Brown on Brunson.

Speaker 8 (17:53):
He's a gamer man. He you know, in the biggest moments,
you know, he shows up and that's what MVPs are
supposed to do. We put the ball in his hands.
We said we were going to live and die with him,
and he went and he got it done for us.
And that's happened time after time after time after time.
He got to the spots and he made plays.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
We got good stuff today, J Mack. It's a Friday,
you know, it used to be. Oh, you're in June.
I hope I can get to the stuff today.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, there's some stuff coming up that you're not gonna love,
but whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
You're ready, all right, J Mack with the news, Turn
on the news.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
This is all right.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
It involves your Chicago perhaps Indiana Bears. We're gonna start
with the good news is that's Caleb Williams, obviously not
afraid at all of this daunting schedule. He was on
the Kelsey Brothers podcast this week. By one metric, the
Bears have the toughest schedule in the league by others
there around like twelve or thirteenth. So here's Caleb on

(18:55):
the tough schedule he's facing this season.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
We got a bunch of prom times games, prom time games,
and you know, uh it's so called the you know,
the hardest schedule. We had the second hardest last year.
So we're excited. We don't back down from no challenge.
And so you know, we want everybody to know that
going to the playoffs and things like that is in
our in our in our future and you know, in

(19:21):
our in our present future and and and future coming up,
and it's gonna be a consistent thing for us. But
obviously we got to do the right things to put
ourselves in those positions.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
So so that's the you know, good news. Your quarterback
is confident. They opened with the Panthers of Vikings.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
It should be fine. Out of the game. They do
have to go to Buffalo, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
They do.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
You have to go to Seattle, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
It seems to me the NFL gave them a very
workable early schedule to build up the hype around the Bears.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I think the Bears being good.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean, I can tell you this, talking with our
bosses for years, we were begging when Chicago is good,
when Philadelphia is good. It is really good for Fox,
it's good for the NFC. There are certain organizations, the
Niners out West, the Bears, the Giants, the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's really you.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
There are certain teams leagues don't care. Network's too the
Bears being good.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Remember that last year when Ben Johnson took over, didn't
they play like Tennessee or somebody in their first game?
It was like the league wanted Ben Johnson to get
off to a good start. This feels like an intentionally
lighter lift early to get all the hype up around
a very good Bears.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
I think they had the Vikings was their first game,
Mark JJ McCarthy come back, and then maybe Titan second.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
So that's good.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Just for the record, the Bears win total is nine
and a half because I wrote this up for my
tayletter and Colin, I'll be honest with you, they have
the same Super Bowl odds as the Dallas Cowboys. That
should tell you something. We don't even know if the
Cowboys are a playoff team. Okay, now here's the not
great news. Adam Schefter. Within the last ten minutes, the
Chicago Bears are a step closer to arec coming the

(21:00):
Indiana Bears. Well, Hammond, Indiana. Are you familiar with the town,
mister Midwest.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, Hammond, Indiana for a lot of people in the
south side closer than Arlington Heights, So there are people
for you. Yeah, and it would be Now what they
say is it would be a more beautiful facility because
real estate's cheaper.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Of course, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Basically, the governor of the state's like, I'm not I'm
not giving billions of dollars to a football team. You
think they should, Well, I want them to build in
Arlington Heights because I can you know, I can drive
there in ten minutes.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
So the billionaire owners shouldn't pay for the stadium. They
should be the tax bears.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
The governor.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Pritzker are saying, listen, I'm not handing over billions of
dollars of tax revenue to NFL teams. I'm not taking
it out of the pockets of my citizens. And I
you know, we've talked about this. Probably I think football
billionaire now that the mccaskey's are not. They're near the
bottom of network. They're like there's about eleven different kids.

(22:03):
They are not rich ownership, but.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
They're not billion Maybe they're not like Jeff Bay's.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Money poorest owners so they are not Stan Kronky or
Jeffrey Lewie or sell.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
The team as somebody who wants to keep him in Chicago. Well,
I think a lot of people would like that, but
that's not I don't like the taxpayer fund to say. Honestly,
I don't think that's right. I agree, Listen, I'm glad
we agree out of that.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I was worried.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
You know, Hammond, Indiana. Two teams in the NFL in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Just where do the Judgs and the Giants play New
York and Indiana?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Come on, come on, well, I mean they play over
in that that cruddy MetLife.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
Yes, it's a dumble, undeniable, terrible surface everything. All right,
let's move on to the Cowboys. Boy, you want to
talk about.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
Not great news.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
So listen, we know George Pickens is unhappy. Okay, he's
seen two receivers this week get paid. He hasn't attended
any of the Cowboys voluntary off season activities. Right, Drake
London got paid, Christian Watson got paid. Brian Schottenheimer's assy
yesterday Colin whether or not Pickens would be at mandatory
mini camp, which starts June sixteenth, which is about eleven days.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Schottenheimer said, are you ready for it?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
He spoke to Pickens and he expects him there, expects.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Not he will be there.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
He told me he's in. I mean, Pickens has to
be livid. He's only at twenty seven mil on the
franchise tag. Christian Watson's averaging more than that. Drake London's
averaging more than that. Pickens coming off a career best season.
I mean, I can understand his frustration, but I also
understand the Cowboys not wanting to pay this guy.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Your your resume matters. Pickens has been moody and powdy
in his NFL career. Mike Tomlin is about his pro
player as any coach in the last twenty years. They
moved off Antonio Brown, they moved off George Pickens. You know,
it's there's a lot of stuff that happens that you
and I don't see when you move off. When Mike

(23:56):
Tomlin moves off George Pickens, what does that tell you? Yeah,
because he has been I mean, Mike is as tolerant
and his pro drama as any coach I can ever remember.
Mike would I mean kind of the opposite of the
older Belichick. You know, he would take all personalities to
a limit. So then he goes to Dallas in a

(24:18):
couple of games last year, I think this is fair
to say it looked like he quit, So your resume
in life matters. And if he had been, let's say
they just made a move to get him from Pittsburgh,
and Pittsburgh's like, you know, the Cowboys overpaid for him,
and Pittsburgh loved him, and then last year he was
just productive. But I'm sorry, I'm gonna look at your

(24:41):
personality at a position wide receiver that historically creates drama.
You know, not about to write tackles that you know
historically that position is a lot of ego. I've got things.
I think the Cowboys were well within their jurisdiction. I
thought it was a smart mo franchise tag. Let's see

(25:02):
how he handles not getting his way, because Pickens' history
is when he doesn't get his way, he gets moody.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
No thanks, listen, I'm not advising him, obviously. I've never
said a word to the guy.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
But Colin, if I were him and I said, damn,
you see these other guys getting paid, you know what
would help.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Your cause falling in line?

Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yeah, why don't you show up. What's the harmon just
showing up? I know you don't want to be there.
Maybe you could say you're you're nursing a hamstring or
you don't feel great.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
But show up, play the game, show them that you can.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I just having I went on vacation.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
I was with my son and we were talking about
something and I said, you know, a big part of
life is just not getting in your own way. I like, like, like,
just you know, don't do something, don't let people judge
you before they even talk to you.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Like, you know, just don't get in your way. Pickens
tends to get in his own way despite his great talent.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, I don't think this is going to end well.
For final story, Colin is a little socker. Obviously the
big one tomorrow USA Germany, only six days before their
first matchup against Paraguay. Now, the big story here is
that Pochettino has not settled on a goalkeeper yet. Apparently
there's still a battle between Freeze and Turner.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, you can go back thirty years. Goalkeeping has been
our strength.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Yeah, Tim Howard, Oh gosh, left, I mean you.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Tony me all that you can go back?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, it's I don't think it's a huge weakness. I
think both these guys are capable.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Well, isn't it if you have two quarterbacks you don't
have one.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Well, no, but I don't think that's that's not I
don't think that's the truth. I think these guys are
both very solid. I don't think you know, I don't
know who the best goal keepers in the world are,
but I think we're fine. I just generally we've had
one very predictable guy in the nets.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
We knew it.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I mean the minute one World coup ended, we knew
who it was. It was our primary position of strain.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Now it's not.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
But that's okay, because I think we're more skilled and
creative and more capable of scoring. We're not going to
be reliant on Superman back there like we have been
in previous World Cups.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
And let's just remind everybody we didn't overreact when when
they beat Senegal three two, it's a really nice win.
Let's not overreact regardless of the result against the Germans. Okay,
can we just agree on that column because this is
a pretty damn good Germany team. I've seen some oh
imre the metrics that say they're boom busts like they
could win the whole damn thing or get bounced early.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, I'm golfing in the morning, you know, a couple
two over par and then I am gonna watch this f.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
That's on the front.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
You're a golf guy. Now, remember when you were out
here in LA you played tennis a lot. Yeah, well
and then we played once and I smoked you, and
then you know, you're like, I'm a pivoted golf.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
All right.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the herd Line News.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
So I saw this this week. I know Nick Saban
a little and I like him.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
That some of this.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Nick Saban made over one hundred million dollars in the
free market. With college football never talk much about budgets
back then, if the Alabama athletic director would have said,
you know, Nick, we got to make some cuts, Nick
would have turned to his agent, Jimmy Sexton, and said,
call Texas or find the money. Nick Saban this week

(28:31):
put his support to a buy partisan bill that college
football is a runaway freight train. One of his quotes was,
if you had the biggest, baddest ferrari, it's going one
hundred and fifty miles an hour toward the Grand Canyon.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Somebody needs to tap the brakes.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Nick was never publicly tapping the brakes when he was
the highest paid coach, or there was a facilities building war.
I mean for years and years, Bregon, Texas, Bama. We're
spending hundreds of million on facilities.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
And now.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
We're spending a million point two in a wide receiver
who's going to be a first round pick.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
And we got to tap the brakes.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I didn't hear Nick and a lot of these coaches
that worried about the Olympic sports and college athletic departments
have been a house of cards forever.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Forever.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
They're bloated, nonsensical, thirty teams, twenty eight hemorrhage money. And
I've said that for years. I would have cut them
years ago. I mean, universities dropped courses in majors all
the time. You can't drop fencing wrestling. So all I
know is that when coaches' salaries exploded, nobody talked about

(29:50):
a Ferrari in the Grand Canyon. Alabama just finished a
football operations center three hundred million dollars. At the current rate,
that would pay for about seven BAMA teams over seven years.
So all I'm saying is the college football revenue, according

(30:10):
to a report I read this morning, is larger than
thirty five other college sports combined. In fact, if the
sport is in so much trouble, why did the Big
Ten over the last two months report that they're payouts
to all the university teams members We're going to be

(30:30):
twenty five percent higher than expected.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
So the revenues are through the roof.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
The quality is unbelievable, players are staying in college and
getting more degrees, and now the sport's in trouble.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Oh, I don't know if it can sustain itself. I mean,
USC just.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Built a three one hundred million dollar facility, and I'd
been to their old facility.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
It was gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I don't know why they needed a new one, but
they did, and they found a way to pay it. So,
I mean, I think all these college I've been for years,
I've always felt college athletic departments all need to go
on ozempic. They all need to They're all bloated, they
all need to lose a little weight. But but don't
tell me the college running back making one point four

(31:19):
is outrageous as you build another three hundred million dollar
football operations center. And again, universities drop majors and classes
all the time. You can drop grec, O, Roman, wrestling, whatever.
It's been a house of cards forever. And I LSU
wants to build a new four hundred million dollar facility.

(31:44):
LSU's facilities are pretty nice. That's why they recruit so well.
You think Lane Kevin would have gone to a place
that had lousy facilities. So you can pay four hundred
million for facilities, but you know that defensive ends making
a million four Well, yeah he's gonna be making six
million later when he goes to the NFL in the
first round for Lae Shoe. And I'm not anti saving,
but it's all this who WHOA ratings up revenue, up, attendance,

(32:11):
up quality up. I don't like that right tackle salary.
Here's Nick Saban this week on the nil the impact
of Olympic sports.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
Let me give you the history. My first year we
had collective at Alabama two point seven million. Next year
seven million, next year ten million. I've retired. Next year
of seventeen million, next year twenty four million. Now you
have schools that have close to forty million dollar rosters.
So if we continue to do that, we're gonna lose
Olympic sports. We're gonna lose non revenue sports. We're gonna

(32:45):
lose scholarships. And basically what's going to happen is we're
gonna have football and basketball succeed and we'll have club
sports for everything else with no scholarships. That's that's horrible,
is it?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I mean, right now, football and basketball, men's and women's owing.
It makes money.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And I think that's Listen, the NFL salary cap. It
goes up every year too. It goes up every year
the Big ten. I'm not picking on Nick, but I
didn't hear this during the facilities race. I didn't hear
this during the salaries exploding for coaches and you don't
have to be involved in the NIL at the highest level.

(33:23):
Here's the art thing I hear. Well, I mean it's
just so top heavy. Oh that's funny. Indiana went sixteen
and oh last year. I don't remember that ever happening. Texas,
Texa baller. I don't remember that being the case. Vanderbilt
gets five star recruits. I don't remember that being the case.
I'm seeing a lot of stuff. I mean, you know,
Oregon's been good forever, and Notre Dame and Miami's back,

(33:44):
that's great, And I mean I'm seeing a lot of
the big dogs. Georgia is still great, Bam is still legit.
But I'm seeing old miss and I mean it's it's
and old miss it and paying a fortune for their coach.
They kept that quarterback, that Trinidad Chambliss, I mean, missus.
I guess one of our statistically poorer states they got
enough money to compete is Indiana Ridge State. They got

(34:06):
money to compete. Vanderbilt's a small private school. They got
enough money to compete. By that wide receiver making one
point too, We're in big trouble. This Ferrari is going
over the Grand Canyon. Let me tell you something. This
sport's been Felma and Louise for a long time.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
They've been cars driving over that canyon for.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
A long time, and it's never been better. I mean,
J Max said it yesterday and I'll repeat it. I
never I never watched more college football games than last year.
You have to go back when I was like fifteen
years old, and I you know, didn't have the responsibilities
of America's honesty broker.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Get me on work too. You're picking on Saban.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
I like on it all.

Speaker 11 (34:48):
I like Nick.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I think he's the best college football coach ever. I
think he's a great guy and he's fine. He's a
great broadcaster.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Don't you think when he said uh, I think the
first number he threw out was two point seven million.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
To me, that says if salaries have gone up from
two point seven to forty, that everyone was woefully underpaid
for years. Because the market is saying, we can afford
these receivers, we can afford these linebackers, Let's pay them.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Guess what a house in Miami used to cost three
hundred and seventy five thousand. Over the last six years,
a house in Miami costs eight hundred one point four
one point eight. Miami's been on fire for five years.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
It happens.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
It's called inflation, it's called tech, it's called AI. Miami
now is like one of the most expensive places to live.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
In the world. It wasn't ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
It happens like regionally tech Miami's become a tech hub.

Speaker 9 (35:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
It's this price of eggs goes up, price of homes
goes up and you always see these things.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
You know, you'll see this.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
A house in California used to cost twenty three thousand dollars.
You know, a lot of things didn't cost any money. Yeah,
it used to be a college football coach making a
two and a half million was like whoa can we afford.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Knicks making ten?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I didn't have a problem with it time forever, I argued.
One time years ago, Mac Brown was at Texas.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
He called me.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I didn't even know Mack.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
He called me.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I went on the air and I said, you guys
are struggling paying mac It was like seven and a
half million. He's put like nine thousand people every Saturday
and Austin into the stadium.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Do the math. It's seventy five bucks a ticket. The
suits are all full.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I'm like seven and a half million, you could pay
him fifteen and if Texas and mac Brown actually reached
out and he's like, hey, thank you for that, and
he was just like he goes, I'm getting killed down here,
and I'm like, coach. It's when Mac Brown was there
with Vince Young, there.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Was a sea of orange.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
I mean, they were just they were a bank so guys.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
You know, Magic Johnson once signed a contract twenty five years,
twenty five million. Good get Michael Jordan's contract. Michael Jordan
now makes more money annually in shoes than he made for.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
His entire basketball career. I read that couple. I think
that's the true.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I read something about like a couple of years ago,
one year of shoe sales more than I think he makes, Like,
is it two hundred and fifty million a year in
sho sale?

Speaker 6 (37:09):
At the height, Jordan was making like thirty million a year.
He had well, he had one, He had a couple
at the end.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
At the end. Finally Jagann is going to double that
in like two years and.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
He's taken Yeah, yeah, and deserves it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
By the way, Magic Johnson twenty five million for twenty
five years. Evan Moldley just signed a two hundred and
seventy million dollar contract.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Is he is?

Speaker 11 (37:31):
He is?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
He? Fellman louis in it over? Is the NBA going
over a cliff? It's like getting stuff gets more expensive.
All the LSU wants to build a four hundred million
dollar facility.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Really, kids want to get paid? Do they really care
about your where the bar bells are in the weight room.
I mean it's the Herd.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
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Speaker 6 (38:01):
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on a huge night of music, stars and celebration in
La next Friday. Coverage begins at six pm Eastern, with
kickoff at nine pm Eastern on Fox.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
You got to take the positive angle in life where
you're going to make yourself grumpy.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
So it looks like the Bears the board of you
know the board.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
They're saying the Chicago Bears they're going to start exploring
playing in Ham in Indiana, which is right on the border.
If I got into my car right now, I'm in
downtown Chicago and I drove to Ham in Indiana, it
would take me fifty minutes, That's what it says. It
would take me fifty three minutes to get the Arlington Heights,

(38:47):
you know, you know, big stadiums. Governor Chicago's like, I'm
not soaking the taxpayers. I I'll defend him on that.
I you know, Stan Cronky on the team or Jeffrey
Lurry that we'd be building at Arlington Heights. But you
got eleven kids, they don't all agree. They're the fourth
poorest owners.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's life. And know a lot of people wish they
would sell. They're not going to.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I want you to know the Spurs are five and
a half point favorites tonight. On just a betting perspective,
I think i'd probably take the Knicks. I don't I
think it's gonna be close. I don't think you're gonna
have a lot of blowouts in this series. The NBA

(39:30):
season could be determined tonight. In the history of the
NBA Playoffs, if you jump out to a two oh
series lead, your record is four hundred and thirty nine
and thirty five in the finals, if you jump out
to a two oh lead, it's thirty two and five.
And no team ever has lost their first two games
at home and won the title. Nixt win tonight, it's over,

(39:55):
it's over. So the pressure is immense for the Spur
And I add this, there is no arena that is
louder right now than Madison Square Gardens this year. It's
a zoo and it is a tough place to play.
I think one of the reasons the Knicks are such
a great fourth quarter team. I do think in basketball

(40:16):
because of the proximity to fans. I do think the
fans and the energy the fans produce does help basketball
teams more than any other sport. You know, Baseball's if
you got pitching, if Otani, you know, if Paul Skeens
was Hammon Garrett Coles human in the World Series, I
don't care what you're playing.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Basketball is different.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
So just to give you a sense of how hot
the New York Knicks are, only to think about this.
The last time the New York Knicks lost a basketball
game was the first day of the NFL Draft.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
April.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Think about that. Wemby under trying to rebound and play
much better in Game two tonight.

Speaker 11 (41:07):
It's not like it's almost not like I have anything
to figure out. It's almost like I have to play normal,
not even good.

Speaker 9 (41:14):
I just I just.

Speaker 11 (41:18):
It's like I'm just doing the right things.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Is enough.

Speaker 11 (41:21):
It's when we pay bad, when I pay bad, when
we shoot our seves in their foot. It's this is
why I'm not worried. It's were going to be so
much better. I'm going to be so much better.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Well, they will shoot the ball better.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
They were atrocious from the perimeter in the second half,
and a lot of that I think is they lost
their legs. I mean, they played a grueling series, okay,
see highly physical series. They had nothing in the tank
in the third and fourth quarter, and they didn't have
a three point shot in the third quarter. But you
got to win tonight for a lot of reasons. One
of them is the Knicks have the number one offensive

(41:56):
rating in the NBA at home this year. The Knicks
are front at home. If you could win one game
in New York, take it, you're not winning multiple. They
are so good offensively at home and in the fourth quarter.
They have the highest offensive net rating in the fourth
quarter ever since they've been taling net ratings. And I

(42:20):
don't know how long that's been, but it's been a while.
So we got I'm telling you, Rachel Nichols. Next hour,
Josh Paate talking college football. He doesn't like that twenty
fourteen playoff suggestion at all.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
He can't stand it. That's okay, break some bread with
Josh in a couple hours. Hour two coming up,
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