December 1, 2025 • 41 mins
In Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong, he hits on his predictions for the Philadelphia Eagles but admits he missed on the Kansas City Chiefs
Colin talks to Texas Longhorns head coach Steve Sarkisian about his team season, the college football playoff, Arch Manning, and more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go, hour two
and a Monday. Lots and lots to die, Jeff wherever
and however you're watching tuning in today, we appreciate it.
Matt Hasselback eighteen years in the league. Five minutes out. Yeah,
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I don't know what to say about Denver, but they
make a lot of big plays in the fourth quarter.
And I don't know what to say about the Chicago Bears,
but they play really well in the fourth quarter. And
both Denver and Chicago led by a very young quarterback
that's a bit uneven, but there is a absolute truth
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in Caleb's not taking many sacks and Bonix isn't either,
And you play in front of the sticks and you've
got a pretty good defense behind you. Y'all win a
lot of close games in the NFL. Here we go, Colin, right,
Colin wrong and a Monday where Colin was right. The
Micah Parsons trade. Yes, it was good for green Bay,
but I kept preaching it's also great for Dallas. They
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were an atrocious run defense, and by picking up Kenny
Clark and Quinn Williams, Dallas now has a much more
complete defense and is still number two in the NFL.
And quarterback pressures, sometimes do you have to trade really
good players. You know, Lakers let go of a d
and Lakers got Luca, I don't know, worked out pretty well.
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I like Micah. He was a better fit for a
better complete roster in Green Bay than Dallas re signing him,
and I think both points have been proven.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Where Colin was wrong, I thought.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Lane Kiffin would stay at Old Miss through the playoffs
or go pro because the LSU job is really political.
The governor stepped in. You know, I don't think it's
about the pressure. Lane Kiffin's fine with pressure, but and yes,
LSU is a better job. But I just thought it
was so messy that Lane would probably say, you know what,
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I'm gonna finish this out. And I wouldn't even have
been surprised after Old Miss he would have taken himself
off the board if they finished number two or three
in the country, done TV per a year and waited
for the perfect job. I mean, there's a great college
football job or three available every year.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So I was wrong where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I didn't think Aaron Rodgers should have gone to the Steelers,
and I think he looks like a beaten man. This
is a head coach and an organization devoted to defense,
and you can blame Aaron all you want, but they
cannot figure out how to run the football. What is
this the seventh or eighth straight year, So this is
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an organization that can't figure out offense. And I thought
Aaron should have gone to the Vikings or retired or
be a broadcaster. I think all three would have been
better than Pittsburgh. But it looks like we said it
would look like where Colin was wrong. Kansas City Chiefs
six and six probably not a playoff team. They feel disjointed.
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Dallas was the better team. The O line remains mid,
the run game remains mid or less. I figured Andy
Reid and Mahomes would figure it out. Houston next, and
the Texans defense is a complete handful. Just not the
year for Kansas City I remain loyal. I was wrong
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where Colin was right. Ohio State did everything we said
they would do last week. I said they're gonna beat Michigan,
They're gonna dominate them. They time of possession, They held
Michigan to minus eight yards rushing in the second half.
I think Ohio State's got the better staff, the better personnel,
and I thought they played conservatively. I said they'd win
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thirty to thirteen. I thought this game could have been worse.
Michigan was held to one hundred and sixty three yards.
Ohio State had three times that they held Michigan to
one of ten on third and fourth down. I think
this Ohio State defense is in a handful of the
best college defenses I've ever seen. Where Colin was right.
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When the Lions lost Ben Johnson, I said, do not
hire in house. The greater the coach you lose, the
wider your search has to be to replacement. Michigan's finding
this out. This is a team now Detroit that played
it safe, played it comfortable. The offense now one in
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five when they're under thirty points nineteenth today on third down,
can't get down right. I got nothing against Johnny Morton
but they have forty three punts this season. They had
forty five all last year. They are not personnel's the same.
The results are not. Where Colin was wrong the Colts.
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I thought they were a serious contender. I thought they
were a team that could win two or three playoff games.
The Sauce Gardner trade brilliant. I thought, now he's hurt
Daniel Jones. Listen, the low ceiling is clear. They've scored
twenty or fewer points in their four losses. You know,
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the better the defenses they play, the more mistakes they make.
And I was wrong where Colin was right. I said,
when saban left getting Kaylin de Boor, that's as good
as you can do in college football. Kaylan de bor
has made the playoffs. Yes, Alabama's not as dominant as
they were in the Saban era because Bama doesn't have
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Ohio State money or Notre Dame money. They don't have
that kind of nil power and flex like Oregon. But
this is about as good as you can do when
you lose a legend to get Kaylin de Boor. Notre
Dame can't run the ball. They're not as dominant as
they used to be. They don't have as many good
players as Georgia or Ohio State. But to deny the truth,
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which is Kaylin de Boor is an A plus plus
head coach. But the reality of the nil era is
Bama doesn't look like Bama used to. Where Colin was right,
I didn't buy Texas A and M all season. They
got a scheduling quirt. They didn't have to play Bama, Georgia, Ole,
miss or Oklahoma, so they beat up on teams. I
mean they even fell behind at home to South Carolina.
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Texas beat them, dominated the second half. Arch Manning was strong.
They're not even gonna play in the SEC Championship. I
thought they were good, but if you're ranked top three,
you're supposed to be special. I didn't see that all year.
Here's a bitter Mike Elko after the loss of the Horns.
We didn't play the way we needed to. Can we
close the door and run a professional press conference? Please?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
My gosh, sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
The door was closed the Texas A and M winning
a natty Colin right, Colin wrong. Let's bring on Matt
Hasselback eighteen years in the NFL. Love him on a Monday.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I've rolled my eyes at Jerry Jones a lot. I'm
just writing an apology letter to him. I watched that game, Matt,
that's a real defense. I mean, you can't run on him. Now.
To Marvin Overshown, I mean they knew it. They were
watching practice, they knew what they had. He was a
high pick. I don't know. I look at Dallas right now,
what do you make of it? I feel like a
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top ten team in the league. Top ten.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Listen, they're trying to be top seven in the NFC
so they can make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I think one of the things you've seen.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
With Dallas the last few years is scheme fit with
coordinator fit. You know, like Dan Quinn was the decordinator,
then Mike Zimmer was the decordinator. And when you have
all these like different turnovers, three different coordinators in such
a short amount of time, you have to make sure
that the guys fit the scheme that you're trying to play,
and you got to be sure that they're cool with it.
Like dan Quinn was all about turnovers, all about get
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the ball trained up by Pete Carroll. Hey, corners, if
you want to jump, route, jump or route like, will
they hit us for a couple big plays, sure, but
we might score on defense, Like that was the mindset
that they have, and every defensive coordinator has a different mindset.
Some guys are stopped to run first no matter what.
Some guys are rushed the passer and stop the run
on your way to rushing the passer. So getting the
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people right, I think is really important. And I do
think you're right you oh Jerry Jones, and apology because
you probably trashed him for the Mike Carsons trade.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They're playing great football, especially on offense. I would love
to see some more turnovers from the defense though.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the NFC playoffs. We're showing our
television audience. This Bears, Rams, Eagles, Bucks, Seahawks, green Bay,
San Francisco those I mean San Francisco gets a timely buy.
Green Bay has fixed their offense. Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm not good enough at math to figure out that
that tie scenario. But like it's funny when the tie happened,
everyone rolled.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Their eyes like, oh, it's a tie.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now it could come to really help a team like
Dallas or Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. So I got a text last week and somebody said, oh, hasshole.
Beck's gonna have to say it's something nice about the
Bears now, and I said he likes some He he's
not building a statue, but it does. It does feel
different going to Philly in winning like that. That's that's
one of those games you could control and lose. I
was impressed, were you not?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Listen, I love the Bears. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm not one hundred percent sold on the quarterback. That's
where my hesitation is. And that doesn't mean that I'm
saying no on him. Listen, the Bears are awesome. I've
been saying Ryan Pohl's unbelievable job. You got Ben Johnson
even better, probably coach of the year. What they've done
upfront in the trenches is impressive. I mean, running the
ball looks like Walter Payton and Matt Suey out there,
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like just slicing and dice in.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
These guys upfront, they've won it. And listen, December football,
it comes.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Down to elements bad weather, like can you plick take
your game on the road.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
The Bears are built to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I also said they hadn't played anybody. Let's see how
they do against Philly, how they do. Against Philly, they
ran for like two hundred and something yards. Guess what,
that's not an anomaly for them. They rush for two
hundred yards like it seems like all months. They're fine,
They're good. Here's my thing. Their quarterback has to be
better with accuracy, better with ball placement, Like that's the
next step for him. Last year I said, you need
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to take less sacks.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Any better body language.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I need you to be a better leader and kind
of protect the team. He's done all those things, like,
hats off to him and hats off to Ben Johnson.
But again, the schedule will get tougher. Do I think
they'll be the one seed at the end of this No,
I don't do. I think they're a really good team.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I do so. I keep hearing this about the
Bears in Denver. Well, how good are they? Well? I
watched Denver last night. First of all, players know when
you're facing a great team. Washington's on a backup quarterback.
They're not a great team. Denver's got much better personnel.
I know, I'm not supposed to be. Denver's defense didn't
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play particularly well, but he did the Rams yesterday. I
don't know how good Denver is but winning these games
the way they keep winning them the same way. Like
Sean Payton said, we didn't escape with a win, we won.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
How do you view it well, I think head coaching matters,
and messaging matters, and the fact that Sean Payton's been
there and done it. You know, he's not up there apologizing.
He controlled the narrative, like we didn't eat this one out,
like Marcus Mariota didn't miss a wide open guy in
the end zone. Our guy made a game winning play.
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Our decordinator called an incredible play after we called a
time out, saw what they were going to do on
their two point play, called the perfect defense, and that
we executed.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
We knew that we were going to be unblocked. We
didn't come in there like, oh my gosh, I'm on blocked.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I came in there knowing I'm on blocked, knowing I
got to get my hands up a game of inches.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
We won the game.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's how he's messaging it, and I think it's message.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Loud and clear.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And you can talk about bow Knicks. I'm kind of
tired of people hating on bo Nicks. Bo Nicks has
done nothing but fly under the radar for not one,
but now two years. Last year he had a great year,
and because Jaden Daniels was so out of this world,
we didn't really talk about it. Bo Knicks, to me,
is playing really good football, and this defense is carrying
a young quarterback.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
As he's developing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But I think he's got the factor, and I think
the play caller and the quarterbacker and lockstep it'll get
tougher for them too.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
But I believe in this team.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So there are coaches Ben Johnson's won I think Lafleur, Shanahan, Peyton.
They're scheme coaches and CEOs. I think Nick Serrianni, Dan
Campbell or the CEO, not scheme coaches. The problem with
that is if you hire the wrong coordinator, you may
not be able to fix it. I said this earlier,
Matt Matt Lafleur's offense was broken three weeks ago. It's
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not broken anymore. He fixed a problem in season. I
don't know if Siriani, I don't know if that's his pedigree.
I watched Philadelphia and I don't I mean, they've solved
things in the off season by hiring different OC's, but
when they go sideways in a season they haven't shown
an ability in the last couple of years to fix it.
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I mean, what is the primary issue you have with
Phillies offense?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Well, three and outs.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I mean I think they probably lead the league in
three and outs. It hurts you just kills your team.
Three and outs kill your team. That's a problem. Third down,
that's a problem. You know, the toush push was automatic before.
That's no longer automatic. Saying all that, they're still fine,
I think they need to like just like lean into
what their true identity is.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
And what makes me nervous a little bit is when.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You're trying to please wide receiver type like I just
don't think that's the best way to to try to
accomplish your goals. AJ Brown's his numbers are great. Ever
since he had the meeting with somebody who's probably higher
in the on the depth chart than the head coach.
You know, they're targeting him. He's delivering, he's got great stats,
But I just don't know if that's the best thing
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for this quarterback, for this offense. I think they need
to get back to what they were last year, which
was the best team on the field upfront, offensive line
and defensive line. Superstar running back, quarterback, and then you
let the big plays come to you at the wide
receiver position. You know, I still think they're an eleven
win team. They just got to get They just got
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to get back in their groove at the right time.
And that's in about a month, and we'll see how
it looks at that point.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I said, I know, Mike Rabel or Ben Johnson will
win coach of the year. What Robert Salah and Shanahan
have done, I don't even know defensively how they're doing it.
I honestly do not know how they're doing it. There's
no Bosa, Mikhel Williams, there's no Fred Warner. Fred Warner's
arguably the best linebacker in the sport, and Bosa was
having a great start. Did you ever plan a team
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in your life that was ran out of players and
you just willed your way to win.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, I mean I remember in Seattle were everybody was hurt.
I mean, our coaches were hurt. It was like the
craziest thing. I mean, everyone everyone's coming up with all
these different scenarios of why we were signing guys off.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
The street, playing them.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
They were intercepting passes, it was one guy was selling
insurance two weeks before. Now we're playing in a playoff
game and soldier field like you just got to do it,
you know, And and you know a lot of times
like I remember Chuck Plegono was my head coach one
year and we had, you know, a lot of different
adversity that we were we were kind of facing. And
it felt like every single team meeting started out with
so what now what?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Like, so what now what?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You didn't make an excuse, You're going to find a way.
And and that's just the mindset that I think great
culture has, great teachers have, great great coaches have.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
They kind of set this.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
They give you confidence that you shouldn't even have, and
also they give you hope, like, hey, guess what, guys,
our quarterbacks getting healthy are all world tight ends getting healthy?
Our tailbacks getting healthy, Like, hey, if we can just
hold down the fort just a little while, reinforcements are
on the way. And I think that's an example of
what San fran has done. And this is another team
I would not count out. I think people have counted
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this team out because the Rams and the Seahawks have
been so good. But don't count out San fran They
got a I think they they're in control of a
lot of things, and they've proven that they can win
without their star players.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I watched Aaron Rodgers, never thought it was a good
fit in Pittsburgh. I do think Tom Brady was really
smart when and Matt Stafford gets to go to LA
with Andrew Whitworth, Cooper Cup and Sean McVay. When you
get older, you need a little more support. I mean,
what did Tom Brady do. Gronk get down here and
the GM promised them they get a right tackle. So,
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like Brady knew better weapons. I need protection. They had
good guard center guard in Tampa. So Aaron goes to
a team that can't run the ball for years and
o line, they lost their left tackle. Is the Aaron
Steeler story today kind of what you thought it would
look like?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
No, because I thought they would keep George Pickens, like
I thought that was part of the formula and that
was part of the reason that it was such an
attractive job. I also thought that Aaron would maybe maybe
learn some lessons from his experience with the New York
Jets and just try to be the point guard like
literally and all these check with me and all these
run pass options like hand it off, hand it off
more than you hold on to it, preserve.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
It, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And now he's got the broken wrist. I played with that.
It's hard to protect yourself. I mean, he looks like
he's from the wet bandits now a home alone with
the broken nose, now with the hat, the cold weather
on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
He doesn't look like he's having any fun. And I
don't blame him.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm not giving up on this team, though, because this
division is there for the taking. They got a regroup
pull together. I liked how he handled his press conference.
He's not pointing fingers at the coaches. I wish you
would maybe pull it together in the locker room a
little bit better. But I do think that they will.
I do think that they will, and I think they
got a chance to win this division. And then once
you get to the playoffs again, play your best football.
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Then you got the people in the room make it happen,
and we'll see. I mean, I know it's a long shot,
but that's what's great about the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You just got to play your best to win the
playoffs start.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I gotta tell you, as a former three time Pro
bowler got the Seahawks to the Super Bowl. I'm sure
there are moments that you miss football, but I don't
think December. It looks so cold.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's fun, Colin. It's fun when you're healthy. It's fun
like playing in the snow. It reminds me of a
snow day school's canceled.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
It's a blast.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But when it's cold and you're banged up and you're old, it's.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Not quite as fun.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That sounds like me coming to work today, cold, old
and banged up. Great to see anybody, Yeah, all right,
the great Matt Hasselbeck, who was so good on our show. Yeah,
it's it's just crazy. I mean last year. I mean,
if I'd have told you, yeah, Josh Allen Mahomes won't
make the playoffs, Lamar Jackson may not make the playoffs.
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Burrow is back and won't make the playoffs. The Bills
don't look great week to week, but the Bears and
the Patriots will be number one seeds. You just said,
all are you doing well? What kind of opinion is that? That?
Is the NFL? Crazy?
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Speaker 1 (20:13):
Urban Meyer and Steve Sarkesan Last Hour. You know, nobody
when they expanded the playoff to twelve teams, everybody's like, oh,
that's a little much. Now I'm one of those people
say and I didn't say that, I playoffs are fine,
but a lot of people did. Well. Now I'm like,
I think Texas should be in. I think Miami should
be in. Oh that would be fourteen teams. I'd be
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totally comfortable with it. So we've always said this. You know,
you expand the playoffs, it just creates different arguments. You know,
I watched Miami Hammer Pitt and Miami Beat Notre Dame
head to head and has the better scoring defense, better
total defense, better passing game. Now I'm like, oh, that
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head to head seems to matter more. So, Yeah, that's
the way the world works. Like you know, you thought
anytime you expand a playoff, it's like saying, oh, we've
got a private club, a country club. We used to
only let in one hundred members. Now we're letting in
one hundred and fifty. And then the one hundred and
fifty first guy is hey, the one hundred and fortieth
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guys are schmock. How how am I not in the
country club like you had this small club four? Now
it's twelve. And now I want Miami in Texas in
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Speaker 2 (21:31):
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Speaker 7 (21:33):
I can tell you very excited for the college football discussion.
We'll do that in a second, but we got to
start with what summer calling the NFL Catch of the year,
and that's your boy, Pooka.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Nakua go up and get it.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Look at this one handed grab against the Panthers, I
mean the colin that is phenomenal. This guy's doing some
crazy stuff. Now, if you watch it closely. Pooka goes
up with the right hand and just snares it. Yeah,
I'm unbelievable. Now, there were a couple other incredible catches
in the NFL yesterday. This seems to be the clubhouse
leader for catch of the year. Puka did, of course,
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watch as Stafford through a pick six. The Rams did lose.
It was a weird loss for the Rams because their
offense was incredible.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Colin, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It's hard, you know, like Denver's defense last night and
the Rams defense yesterday, it's hard to get guys to
answer the bell seventeen weeks. Offense is different if you
have a great quarterback and you separate with your receivers
Puka and Davonte. It's hard to stop smart offensive coaches
and quarterbacks in this league. But defense is about effort
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and explosion and brute force. It's hard to get a
great performance every week.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Bryce Young cooked him on.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
He had two incredible fourth down touchdown passes. Yes, the
funniest thing I heard was Bryce Young is selectively elite. Okay,
go up against the Saints at home, He's garbage. Go
up against the Rams or Packers. It's like, oh Man,
Bryce Young could make some passes. Colin, I know it's
a deeper discussion. I keep going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
What do you do with him in the offing it?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Listen, this is why you get paid the big bucks.
He's inconsistent, but there's no disputing this. Carolina is a
real team.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
They've got a very good coach and Bryce about every
other game looks like this. Now you could argue young
quarterbacks like BONICKX or Caleber less consistent. I mean, it's just,
I mean, he's just it's hard to unsee that Niner
game where he just shrunk.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
But I mean a Saints game, he was terrible.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
I mean, like against the Saints, who are maybe the
second worst team in the league.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It ain't the Jets. I'll just say this about Bryce.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
We saw what like, uh, Sam Darnold got like a
in the NBA they call it the fun Max, which is.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like a lot of money but not max deal.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And then Baker Mayfield got it. And and you know,
I think one of those probably got to Bryce Young. Yeah, hey,
we're gonna keep him around for two more years. Canalis
very good coach. I mean they've won seven games this year, Colin,
they won seven the last two years combined. Yeah, okay,
Teed McMillan, your guy from Arizona showing wells, they're fun. Yeah,
all right, let's move on college football. Well, here we
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go a lot of debate. Miami Hurricanes, they whooped up
on Pitts, So obviously, Honey Colin said, so, hey, that's
a great win over pit with those beautiful throwback unis
head coach Mario crystal Ball lobbying hard for his team
to get in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Everybody want to.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
See how Miami would do in the cold weather on
the road against the top twenty five team, and I
think we answered those questions very clearly. So at the
end of the day, it's not only do we pass
the eye tests, we passed the field test, right, especially
as it relates to playing this brand of football down
the stretch. And it had to head competition versus others
that are being judged in the same little pool that
we are as well.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Plus we're getting healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah noah, So I watched this game and I thought
it was going to be close. And after this game
you do a little homerk. So think of this. Miami
won head to head.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, time out, time out. That needs content.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Let me finish. Okay, it still matters. Even in the NFL.
The number one tie breaker is head to head. Now,
September football doesn't mean as much in college or the
NFL that it did five years ago. September doesn't mean
what it used to do in college football. It's never
meant anything in the NFL. But head to head matters.
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Miami won. They had four common opponents. In three of four,
Miami beat the team worse than Notre Dame did. Okay,
so in three or four Miami has the better total
defense and scoring defense. Miami has the better passing offense,
yards per game, total touchdowns. And I thought it was
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a legitimate quote. I thought they would go here cold weather,
win and be ugly. They were great. So they blew
out North Carolina State thirty four, pit by thirty one,
Stanford by thirty five, Syracuse by twenty eight. I gotta
tell you, when this game was over, my take was, Okay,
we got to be fair on head to head. You
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got to contextualize it because it was in Miami. But
you know what, sometimes that's the reality of the schedule.
You don't get every game, big game at home. If
they did USC.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Would be a league.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Right Sometimes, I mean this year Texas A and M
doesn't play Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma or Old Miss. Schedules matter.
Miami got a break, they got notre Dame at home
I right now this morning. I mean, Miami would have
a right to be pissed, like, hey, we scheduled you,
so we know you and.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We beat you.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Okay, time out again context, you said September football, it matters,
We're not August football.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
This game was August thirty. First skulling.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
It was a first ever start, not and a rainstorm
on the league.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But it was August for both teams. Yes, and I won, right,
Okay at home? Great? What I mean again, that's I mean,
that's listen, Texas got Texas A and M in Austin.
Sometimes that's the way it works. I mean it's very rare.
Like Ohio State lost at Oddson last year. Luckily they
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got to play them again. But if they hadn't, people
would have said, well, Oregon's better. But that way they
played a second time, Ohio State beating by like forty.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
But doesn't that show that the first meeting means nothing.
That first lost my High State and that nothing, No.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
No, it didn't because it validated how good Oregon was
and Miami's win when you couple it with three wins,
they have common opponents. So so not only does Miami
have had the head. Okay, let's go to common opponents. No,
Miami wins that too, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Wait a minute, by scoring margins.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
So hey, you you beat South Florida by more than
Notre Dame or whatever the team is. What about the
losses you've conveniently ignored.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
No losing to Louisville SMU.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
And not even making the acci I said last week,
punitive losses are what kept Bama out last year when
they lost a bandy, because losing Oklahoma didn't kill Bama.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So I'm not denying it. The reason this is a
go either way argument are the ugly losses. But you
start stacking the arguments. So I mean, here, here's a
prime example. If I say, okay, what is the best
Miami win, they can say, well, we did beat Notre Dame.
Go to Notre Dame, and what is your best win?
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Well we beat USC I guess, okay, okay, USC half
you want.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Lincoln Riley fired, Okay, okay, So I think it is
a good win but Illinois beat Notre Dame and Oregon
hammered you, or the Illinois beat USC and and Notre
Dame hammered USC and Oregon hammered us. And I'm not
saying I'm just saying, so I beat them head to head.
I have the quality win common opponents. I mean, at
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some point we got to be fair about we can't
do like last week my take was I think Notre
Dame would win. Well, that's not the way it works
in the NFL. You go tie break or common opponents
head to head. It's not fair for me to just go, well,
I think Notre Dame would win. I do.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Actually that's not fair, No, totally. Now here's where it
gets real crazy. What if Alabama beats Georgia. You can't
keep alabamaut of the place off right now, I don't
know if they're in.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But if Alabama beats Georgia and the.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
SEC title, Bama's in and cayleb we.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Think they're in. Who are they in ahead of? Are
they definitely ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Of not I am not anti Notre Dame. I love
Marcus Freeman, but Notre Dame loves all the upside of independence.
I love being an independent well, Miami, they're in a conference,
and sometimes in a conference the schedule goes your way
and sometimes it doesn't. I mean, Ohio State would have
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rather played in Columbus than ann Arbor. They were the
better team. I have to take out. I can't do
confirmation bias at some point, head to head, common opponents,
better defense, better pass game. And when I watched them
beat Pittsburgh, it's like they beat the holy hell out
of them.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Like any Miami fan that says conference, you just say
strength to schedule. Who had a tougher way and it's
Notre Dame by a mile. So it's a fun discussion.
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Final story.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Colin Lamarge accent boy, Hey listen, we tried to warn
you guys. Lamar is not the same guy he has
been and uh, I don't know. He looked so lost
against the Bengals. Yeah, the turnovers were anemic. He just
doesn't have the escapability now he's been back.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
From injury for a while. Colin, I don't know. Here
he is talking.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
About his struggles against the Bengals, who have one of
the worst defenses in the league.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Chick, you know it's not even frushing I'm just mad because,
like I said.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We can't have that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
It turned overs a big part of winning losing games
and turning the ball over giving them an extra possession.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
This is the outcome.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I mean, what's gonna do with the Ravens. What
do you do with them?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Are they good? They're good, They're better than the Steelers,
But I will find out this week.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
That's another game, which is like, you know, in a
game with in a week with seven incredible games, Raven
Steelers is like maybe fifth because these teams are not
really watchable.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Dude. They starting Thursday, Lions, Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
This is maybe the best football weekend of twenty twenty
five cause there's Thursday, then you get to play the
college football game Saturday and the Sunday slates off the hook.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I mean it's Lamar Jackson. We're showing our television audience this.
Lamar Jackson's passer rating in his last three games is
sixty three, and that's falling off a cliff. And we
know the coach is good. I mean, it's just it's wild.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
We can't say, like, hey, he doesn't have receivers.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
I mean, Josh Allen is throwing to nobody's Okay, thanks fair,
this is this is not a great look for Lamar.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh, you're right. Jmck with the news.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah. I think the Miami Notre Dame thing is. I mean,
I'm watching the pit game and I'm like, man, that's impressive.
Then you start looking at all the numbers and you're like, Okay,
I gotta be fair on this. You gotta be fair
head to head now, it's gotta be something common. Opponents
have to be something. Well. Our schedule, Well, schedules are weird.
I mean half the time, like Texas has beaten three
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teams that were ranked in the top ten when they
played him. So that's why I would have no problem
with Texas being in starks On next hour, It's the Hurt.
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Speaker 7 (32:21):
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
By the way, Michigan State quietly hired Pat Fitzgerald, the
former Northwestern coach who won his lawsuit against the school.
So Fitzgerald is a very good football coach. Jonathan Smith
was released of his duties and Pat Fitzgerald comes in
very quietly. That's a really good hire. So you know,
another argument for the Miami Hurricanes Notre Dame. It's Notre
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Dame's an independent, so they have more flexibility with their schedule.
Miami tried to schedule tough. They scheduled Florida, an SEZ team.
It wasn't their fault they beat them. That Florida was
a tire fire. They beat Florida State in conference when
they were three and one. Florida State now looks horrible,
they weren't when Miami played them. They also scheduled South
Florida and that's South Florida super Bowl. They beat them too.
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So Miami's in a conference, they're limited on what they
can do with schedule. They scheduled Florida, that's an SEC team.
You can't blame them. Florida went Sideways and Notre Dames
in Independence, so they have more flexibility with their schedule.
So I gotta The other thing is, listen, who's gonna
win Coach of the Year. I'm not a big Awards guy.
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I don't really care, but you know, Mike Vrabel and
Ben Johnson deserve consideration. Jim Harbaugh has the Chargers at
eight and four, the lowest ranked offensive line due to injuries,
and they still run the football. Wow, I don't know.
And what Shanahan's done and Robert Salah to this team,
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they have a buy now at nine and four, it's
pretty remarkable. No Bosa, no Warner. Remember they lost Greenlaw
and Hufunga in the offseason Denver bottom, so they went
in under the gun. Mikhel Williams the Georgia defensive end.
Now he got hurt too, the first round guy. So
they're doing it with duct tape and great coaching in
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the NFL is a little like gold mining. You know,
it's a very few gems and you got to dig
through a lot of rubble and soil and dirt and
rock to find the gold gems. But Shanahan's done an
unbelievable job with this team. And we always give Coach
of the Year to you know, and they're deserving to
Vrabel and Ben Johnson. It's really been the year of coaching.
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But I think what Harbaugh's done, how they run the football,
Hampton's coming back, watch out, and what Shanahan has done.
I don't remember remember a team on one side of
a ball that has lost more from the end to
last season to now, and they've been unbelievably good. I mean,
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Shador Sanders wasn't bad. It's Stefanski knows what he's doing,
and they've got talent. Nope, they mean all the big plays.
Here's Kyle after.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
I thought the Divas sevent the tone all day. Really,
I mean, I think they got that one score with
that the double move, I think they ran it felt
like nine plays in in a row, set it up
and got that score and every drive after that. Man,
I thought our DV was real good. I made some
adjustments at halftime. Did better in the run game, I
thought in the second half, But fourth down was the
big home. It's good to turnovers when you stop him
on fourth down.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
They are eighth in the NFL in defense, and again
they've played a division where they've got a face. Darnold
and Stafford and Devonte Adams. I mean they, you know,
even going on the road, crappy weather, Schador Sanders. I
thought that Cleveland was one of my favorite pixel Then
here's Matt Hasselback earlier on the adversity the Niners have
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battled through.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I remember Chuck Plegano was my head coach one year
and we had, you know, a lot of different adversity
that we were we were kind of facing. And it
felt like every single team meeting started out with so
what now what?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Like so what now what?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You didn't make an excuse, You're gonna.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Find a way.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
And I think that's an example of what San Fran
has done. And this is another team I would not
count out. I think people have counted this team out
because the Rams and the Seahawks have been so good.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
But don't count out san Fran.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
They got a I think they they're in control of
a lot of things, and they've proven that they can
win without their star players.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Okay, one of the great mysteries in the NFL is
why doesn't everybody love Jordan Love? So we're gonna play
blind resume j mac. Here are the numbers for Jordan
Love of the Green Bay Packers, with the youngest offense
in the league. Right, doesn't always plan the best weather.
Jordan Love eight three and one, nineteen touchdowns, three picks,
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one hundred and four passer, sixty seven percent completion percentage.
So let's play a little blind resume. He was great
against Detroit and nobody loves him. So for our radio audience,
we're throwing up a quarterback who is virtually identical to
Jordan Love's numbers so far this year. Who is that
quarterback Tom Brady in twenty twenty Brady's last Super Bowl
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winning season, same numbers, and we're like Brady's the goat,
unbelievable seedon. Let's play it again. Jordan Loves number so far. Okay,
this quarterback, I mean, doesn't even have the passer rating
yards per attempt slightly back. Who's this quarterback Matt Stafford
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in his Super Bowl winning year? J Mack is win
seeing it the data that is being presented. So let's
do another Jar Love blind resume. So we got Brady
and Stafford in super Bowl winning years. Okay, this quarterback
is clearly, clearly not quite as good as Jordan Love.
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The numbers are all off a little bit from Jordan's
numbers this year. Who is this quarterback? Oh, Patrick Mahomes
last Super Bowl win, He's got a significantly higher passer
rating and yards per attempt? Let's do one more.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Maybe you've heard of Mahomes, Stafford and Brady Tittle. Why Tittle?
They didn't play in shoes, so you have to have
playing in shoes. All right? So let's fine Because I'm
watching Jordan against Detroit and I'm like, tall, athletic, big arm, aggressive,
doesn't throw picks. What is it with Jordan Love? I
know I didn't know what he was gonna be, but
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I mean, at this point he's good. So this next
quarterback our final round again, Jordan loves slightly better across
the board, especially in passer rating. Who is this quarterback?
Josh Allen be season?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh boy? Oh you love this stuff? I mean I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I'm not like a magician. I watch my words here
I had, but I have a copper field field to me.
I'll be honest with you. So are you said? What
are we saying here, Jordan Love? Is we love Stafford?
Brady Josh al Maholmes. It's hard to find anybody out
of Green Bay that'll just go. This kid's great. I
mean everybody. It brought Purty defenders, Jalen Hurt's defenders, Justin
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Herbert defenders, and I like those guys too. Jordan Love
is fantastic.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
I mean, it was the Lions like I like the
Packers lot. It was only the Lions. You know, the
secondary not very good pass rush wasn't there. I gave
you season number.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I yeah, I'm don't where I don't know.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
I mean I like Jordan Love a lot. Remember we
talked about him as a potential MVP candidate. He loses Tuckerkraft.
The offensive line's been kind of beat up. Golden's not
always been there. Yes, Jayden Reid's been out for like
ten weeks or something. Yeah, this team is dangerous right now.
Where you in with the Packers? Oh, in the NFC higher.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I mean the Detroit game. Also, they have not run
the ball consistently, so he doesn't have a formidable run game.
The on line banks they overpaid for green Bay doesn't
do that very much. They may have overpaid for that
guard from the Niners. Their run game is not very good.
Major injuries lost Tucker Craft and they go to Detroit
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and Detroit hasn't lost two in a row in forever,
and they, you know it, beat him soundly. They were
the better team.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
So this is a four to twenty five marquee game.
This weekend, Packers hosting the Bears. There's number one seed
in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
The len Okay, Okay, green Bay, Oh boy, green Bay
minus one and a half.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
Oh god, I'll give you a Mulligan tray again.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
You're not even close.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Green Bay minus three and a half, green.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Bay minus six and a half, Oh god, smallman on draft.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Picks, ridiculous, a rivalry division game six and a half.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
I'm just telling you Green Bay has a much better
odds for Super Bowl than gret Chicago.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Chicago.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
It's like right around nine to ten super Bowl odds.
Despite being number one in the NFC. The market is
telling you this Bears team is fugazi.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Now I'm not saying they are.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
I know Ben Johnson's gonna pull clips and give it
to his team.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
I'm not trashing them.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Packers big this weekend.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Colling just admit that Jordan love blind resume.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh you love that.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Your head is spinning. You don't know what to do,
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Matt Hasselback eighteen years in the league. Five minutes out. Yeah,
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I don't know what to say about Denver, but they
make a lot of big plays in the fourth quarter.
And I don't know what to say about the Chicago Bears,
but they play really well in the fourth quarter. And
both Denver and Chicago led by a very young quarterback
that's a bit uneven, but there is a absolute truth
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in Caleb's not taking many sacks and Bonix isn't either,
And you play in front of the sticks and you've
got a pretty good defense behind you. Y'all win a
lot of close games in the NFL. Here we go, Colin, right,
Colin wrong and a Monday where Colin was right. The
Micah Parsons trade. Yes, it was good for green Bay,
but I kept preaching it's also great for Dallas. They
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were an atrocious run defense, and by picking up Kenny
Clark and Quinn Williams, Dallas now has a much more
complete defense and is still number two in the NFL.
And quarterback pressures, sometimes do you have to trade really
good players. You know, Lakers let go of a d
and Lakers got Luca, I don't know, worked out pretty well.
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I like Micah. He was a better fit for a
better complete roster in Green Bay than Dallas re signing him,
and I think both points have been proven.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Where Colin was wrong, I thought.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Lane Kiffin would stay at Old Miss through the playoffs
or go pro because the LSU job is really political.
The governor stepped in. You know, I don't think it's
about the pressure. Lane Kiffin's fine with pressure, but and yes,
LSU is a better job. But I just thought it
was so messy that Lane would probably say, you know what,
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I'm gonna finish this out. And I wouldn't even have
been surprised after Old Miss he would have taken himself
off the board if they finished number two or three
in the country, done TV per a year and waited
for the perfect job. I mean, there's a great college
football job or three available every year.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So I was wrong where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I didn't think Aaron Rodgers should have gone to the Steelers,
and I think he looks like a beaten man. This
is a head coach and an organization devoted to defense,
and you can blame Aaron all you want, but they
cannot figure out how to run the football. What is
this the seventh or eighth straight year, So this is
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an organization that can't figure out offense. And I thought
Aaron should have gone to the Vikings or retired or
be a broadcaster. I think all three would have been
better than Pittsburgh. But it looks like we said it
would look like where Colin was wrong. Kansas City Chiefs
six and six probably not a playoff team. They feel disjointed.
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Dallas was the better team. The O line remains mid,
the run game remains mid or less. I figured Andy
Reid and Mahomes would figure it out. Houston next, and
the Texans defense is a complete handful. Just not the
year for Kansas City I remain loyal. I was wrong
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where Colin was right. Ohio State did everything we said
they would do last week. I said they're gonna beat Michigan,
They're gonna dominate them. They time of possession, They held
Michigan to minus eight yards rushing in the second half.
I think Ohio State's got the better staff, the better personnel,
and I thought they played conservatively. I said they'd win
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thirty to thirteen. I thought this game could have been worse.
Michigan was held to one hundred and sixty three yards.
Ohio State had three times that they held Michigan to
one of ten on third and fourth down. I think
this Ohio State defense is in a handful of the
best college defenses I've ever seen. Where Colin was right.
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When the Lions lost Ben Johnson, I said, do not
hire in house. The greater the coach you lose, the
wider your search has to be to replacement. Michigan's finding
this out. This is a team now Detroit that played
it safe, played it comfortable. The offense now one in
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five when they're under thirty points nineteenth today on third down,
can't get down right. I got nothing against Johnny Morton
but they have forty three punts this season. They had
forty five all last year. They are not personnel's the same.
The results are not. Where Colin was wrong the Colts.
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I thought they were a serious contender. I thought they
were a team that could win two or three playoff games.
The Sauce Gardner trade brilliant. I thought, now he's hurt
Daniel Jones. Listen, the low ceiling is clear. They've scored
twenty or fewer points in their four losses. You know,
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the better the defenses they play, the more mistakes they make.
And I was wrong where Colin was right. I said,
when saban left getting Kaylin de Boor, that's as good
as you can do in college football. Kaylan de bor
has made the playoffs. Yes, Alabama's not as dominant as
they were in the Saban era because Bama doesn't have
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Ohio State money or Notre Dame money. They don't have
that kind of nil power and flex like Oregon. But
this is about as good as you can do when
you lose a legend to get Kaylin de Boor. Notre
Dame can't run the ball. They're not as dominant as
they used to be. They don't have as many good
players as Georgia or Ohio State. But to deny the truth,
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which is Kaylin de Boor is an A plus plus
head coach. But the reality of the nil era is
Bama doesn't look like Bama used to. Where Colin was right,
I didn't buy Texas A and M all season. They
got a scheduling quirt. They didn't have to play Bama, Georgia, Ole,
miss or Oklahoma, so they beat up on teams. I
mean they even fell behind at home to South Carolina.
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Texas beat them, dominated the second half. Arch Manning was strong.
They're not even gonna play in the SEC Championship. I
thought they were good, but if you're ranked top three,
you're supposed to be special. I didn't see that all year.
Here's a bitter Mike Elko after the loss of the Horns.
We didn't play the way we needed to. Can we
close the door and run a professional press conference? Please?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
My gosh, sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
The door was closed the Texas A and M winning
a natty Colin right, Colin wrong. Let's bring on Matt
Hasselback eighteen years in the NFL. Love him on a Monday.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I've rolled my eyes at Jerry Jones a lot. I'm
just writing an apology letter to him. I watched that game, Matt,
that's a real defense. I mean, you can't run on him. Now.
To Marvin Overshown, I mean they knew it. They were
watching practice, they knew what they had. He was a
high pick. I don't know. I look at Dallas right now,
what do you make of it? I feel like a
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top ten team in the league. Top ten.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Listen, they're trying to be top seven in the NFC
so they can make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I think one of the things you've seen.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
With Dallas the last few years is scheme fit with
coordinator fit. You know, like Dan Quinn was the decordinator,
then Mike Zimmer was the decordinator. And when you have
all these like different turnovers, three different coordinators in such
a short amount of time, you have to make sure
that the guys fit the scheme that you're trying to play,
and you got to be sure that they're cool with it.
Like dan Quinn was all about turnovers, all about get
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the ball trained up by Pete Carroll. Hey, corners, if
you want to jump, route, jump or route like, will
they hit us for a couple big plays, sure, but
we might score on defense, Like that was the mindset
that they have, and every defensive coordinator has a different mindset.
Some guys are stopped to run first no matter what.
Some guys are rushed the passer and stop the run
on your way to rushing the passer. So getting the
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people right, I think is really important. And I do
think you're right you oh Jerry Jones, and apology because
you probably trashed him for the Mike Carsons trade.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They're playing great football, especially on offense. I would love
to see some more turnovers from the defense though.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the NFC playoffs. We're showing our
television audience. This Bears, Rams, Eagles, Bucks, Seahawks, green Bay,
San Francisco those I mean San Francisco gets a timely buy.
Green Bay has fixed their offense. Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm not good enough at math to figure out that
that tie scenario. But like it's funny when the tie happened,
everyone rolled.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Their eyes like, oh, it's a tie.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now it could come to really help a team like
Dallas or Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. So I got a text last week and somebody said, oh, hasshole.
Beck's gonna have to say it's something nice about the
Bears now, and I said he likes some He he's
not building a statue, but it does. It does feel
different going to Philly in winning like that. That's that's
one of those games you could control and lose. I
was impressed, were you not?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Listen, I love the Bears. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm not one hundred percent sold on the quarterback. That's
where my hesitation is. And that doesn't mean that I'm
saying no on him. Listen, the Bears are awesome. I've
been saying Ryan Pohl's unbelievable job. You got Ben Johnson
even better, probably coach of the year. What they've done
upfront in the trenches is impressive. I mean, running the
ball looks like Walter Payton and Matt Suey out there,
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like just slicing and dice in.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
These guys upfront, they've won it. And listen, December football,
it comes.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Down to elements bad weather, like can you plick take
your game on the road.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
The Bears are built to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I also said they hadn't played anybody. Let's see how
they do against Philly, how they do. Against Philly, they
ran for like two hundred and something yards. Guess what,
that's not an anomaly for them. They rush for two
hundred yards like it seems like all months. They're fine,
They're good. Here's my thing. Their quarterback has to be
better with accuracy, better with ball placement, Like that's the
next step for him. Last year I said, you need
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to take less sacks.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Any better body language.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I need you to be a better leader and kind
of protect the team. He's done all those things, like,
hats off to him and hats off to Ben Johnson.
But again, the schedule will get tougher. Do I think
they'll be the one seed at the end of this No,
I don't do. I think they're a really good team.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I do so. I keep hearing this about the
Bears in Denver. Well, how good are they? Well? I
watched Denver last night. First of all, players know when
you're facing a great team. Washington's on a backup quarterback.
They're not a great team. Denver's got much better personnel.
I know, I'm not supposed to be. Denver's defense didn't
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play particularly well, but he did the Rams yesterday. I
don't know how good Denver is but winning these games
the way they keep winning them the same way. Like
Sean Payton said, we didn't escape with a win, we won.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
How do you view it well, I think head coaching matters,
and messaging matters, and the fact that Sean Payton's been
there and done it. You know, he's not up there apologizing.
He controlled the narrative, like we didn't eat this one out,
like Marcus Mariota didn't miss a wide open guy in
the end zone. Our guy made a game winning play.
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Our decordinator called an incredible play after we called a
time out, saw what they were going to do on
their two point play, called the perfect defense, and that
we executed.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
We knew that we were going to be unblocked. We
didn't come in there like, oh my gosh, I'm on blocked.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I came in there knowing I'm on blocked, knowing I
got to get my hands up a game of inches.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
We won the game.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's how he's messaging it, and I think it's message.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Loud and clear.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And you can talk about bow Knicks. I'm kind of
tired of people hating on bo Nicks. Bo Nicks has
done nothing but fly under the radar for not one,
but now two years. Last year he had a great year,
and because Jaden Daniels was so out of this world,
we didn't really talk about it. Bo Knicks, to me,
is playing really good football, and this defense is carrying
a young quarterback.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
As he's developing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But I think he's got the factor, and I think
the play caller and the quarterbacker and lockstep it'll get
tougher for them too.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
But I believe in this team.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So there are coaches Ben Johnson's won I think Lafleur, Shanahan, Peyton.
They're scheme coaches and CEOs. I think Nick Serrianni, Dan
Campbell or the CEO, not scheme coaches. The problem with
that is if you hire the wrong coordinator, you may
not be able to fix it. I said this earlier,
Matt Matt Lafleur's offense was broken three weeks ago. It's
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not broken anymore. He fixed a problem in season. I
don't know if Siriani, I don't know if that's his pedigree.
I watched Philadelphia and I don't I mean, they've solved
things in the off season by hiring different OC's, but
when they go sideways in a season they haven't shown
an ability in the last couple of years to fix it.
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I mean, what is the primary issue you have with
Phillies offense?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Well, three and outs.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I mean I think they probably lead the league in
three and outs. It hurts you just kills your team.
Three and outs kill your team. That's a problem. Third down,
that's a problem. You know, the toush push was automatic before.
That's no longer automatic. Saying all that, they're still fine,
I think they need to like just like lean into
what their true identity is.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
And what makes me nervous a little bit is when.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You're trying to please wide receiver type like I just
don't think that's the best way to to try to
accomplish your goals. AJ Brown's his numbers are great. Ever
since he had the meeting with somebody who's probably higher
in the on the depth chart than the head coach.
You know, they're targeting him. He's delivering, he's got great stats,
But I just don't know if that's the best thing
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for this quarterback, for this offense. I think they need
to get back to what they were last year, which
was the best team on the field upfront, offensive line
and defensive line. Superstar running back, quarterback, and then you
let the big plays come to you at the wide
receiver position. You know, I still think they're an eleven
win team. They just got to get They just got
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to get back in their groove at the right time.
And that's in about a month, and we'll see how
it looks at that point.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I said, I know, Mike Rabel or Ben Johnson will
win coach of the year. What Robert Salah and Shanahan
have done, I don't even know defensively how they're doing it.
I honestly do not know how they're doing it. There's
no Bosa, Mikhel Williams, there's no Fred Warner. Fred Warner's
arguably the best linebacker in the sport, and Bosa was
having a great start. Did you ever plan a team
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in your life that was ran out of players and
you just willed your way to win.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, I mean I remember in Seattle were everybody was hurt.
I mean, our coaches were hurt. It was like the
craziest thing. I mean, everyone everyone's coming up with all
these different scenarios of why we were signing guys off.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
The street, playing them.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
They were intercepting passes, it was one guy was selling
insurance two weeks before. Now we're playing in a playoff
game and soldier field like you just got to do it,
you know, And and you know a lot of times
like I remember Chuck Plegono was my head coach one
year and we had, you know, a lot of different
adversity that we were we were kind of facing. And
it felt like every single team meeting started out with
so what now what?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Like, so what now what?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You didn't make an excuse, You're going to find a way.
And and that's just the mindset that I think great
culture has, great teachers have, great great coaches have.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
They kind of set this.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
They give you confidence that you shouldn't even have, and
also they give you hope, like, hey, guess what, guys,
our quarterbacks getting healthy are all world tight ends getting healthy?
Our tailbacks getting healthy, Like, hey, if we can just
hold down the fort just a little while, reinforcements are
on the way. And I think that's an example of
what San fran has done. And this is another team
I would not count out. I think people have counted
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this team out because the Rams and the Seahawks have
been so good. But don't count out San fran They
got a I think they they're in control of a
lot of things, and they've proven that they can win
without their star players.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I watched Aaron Rodgers, never thought it was a good
fit in Pittsburgh. I do think Tom Brady was really
smart when and Matt Stafford gets to go to LA
with Andrew Whitworth, Cooper Cup and Sean McVay. When you
get older, you need a little more support. I mean,
what did Tom Brady do. Gronk get down here and
the GM promised them they get a right tackle. So,
(16:56):
like Brady knew better weapons. I need protection. They had
good guard center guard in Tampa. So Aaron goes to
a team that can't run the ball for years and
o line, they lost their left tackle. Is the Aaron
Steeler story today kind of what you thought it would
look like?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
No, because I thought they would keep George Pickens, like
I thought that was part of the formula and that
was part of the reason that it was such an
attractive job. I also thought that Aaron would maybe maybe
learn some lessons from his experience with the New York
Jets and just try to be the point guard like
literally and all these check with me and all these
run pass options like hand it off, hand it off
more than you hold on to it, preserve.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
It, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And now he's got the broken wrist. I played with that.
It's hard to protect yourself. I mean, he looks like
he's from the wet bandits now a home alone with
the broken nose, now with the hat, the cold weather
on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
He doesn't look like he's having any fun. And I
don't blame him.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm not giving up on this team, though, because this
division is there for the taking. They got a regroup
pull together. I liked how he handled his press conference.
He's not pointing fingers at the coaches. I wish you
would maybe pull it together in the locker room a
little bit better. But I do think that they will.
I do think that they will, and I think they
got a chance to win this division. And then once
you get to the playoffs again, play your best football.
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Then you got the people in the room make it happen,
and we'll see. I mean, I know it's a long shot,
but that's what's great about the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You just got to play your best to win the
playoffs start.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I gotta tell you, as a former three time Pro
bowler got the Seahawks to the Super Bowl. I'm sure
there are moments that you miss football, but I don't
think December. It looks so cold.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's fun, Colin. It's fun when you're healthy. It's fun
like playing in the snow. It reminds me of a
snow day school's canceled.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
It's a blast.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But when it's cold and you're banged up and you're old, it's.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Not quite as fun.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That sounds like me coming to work today, cold, old
and banged up. Great to see anybody, Yeah, all right,
the great Matt Hasselbeck, who was so good on our show. Yeah,
it's it's just crazy. I mean last year. I mean,
if I'd have told you, yeah, Josh Allen Mahomes won't
make the playoffs, Lamar Jackson may not make the playoffs.
(19:14):
Burrow is back and won't make the playoffs. The Bills
don't look great week to week, but the Bears and
the Patriots will be number one seeds. You just said,
all are you doing well? What kind of opinion is that? That?
Is the NFL? Crazy?
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Speaker 1 (20:13):
Urban Meyer and Steve Sarkesan Last Hour. You know, nobody
when they expanded the playoff to twelve teams, everybody's like, oh,
that's a little much. Now I'm one of those people
say and I didn't say that, I playoffs are fine,
but a lot of people did. Well. Now I'm like,
I think Texas should be in. I think Miami should
be in. Oh that would be fourteen teams. I'd be
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totally comfortable with it. So we've always said this. You know,
you expand the playoffs, it just creates different arguments. You know,
I watched Miami Hammer Pitt and Miami Beat Notre Dame
head to head and has the better scoring defense, better
total defense, better passing game. Now I'm like, oh, that
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head to head seems to matter more. So, Yeah, that's
the way the world works. Like you know, you thought
anytime you expand a playoff, it's like saying, oh, we've
got a private club, a country club. We used to
only let in one hundred members. Now we're letting in
one hundred and fifty. And then the one hundred and
fifty first guy is hey, the one hundred and fortieth
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guys are schmock. How how am I not in the
country club like you had this small club four? Now
it's twelve. And now I want Miami in Texas in
J Mack with a news no, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
This is the Herd Line News.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I can tell you very excited for the college football discussion.
We'll do that in a second, but we got to
start with what summer calling the NFL Catch of the year,
and that's your boy, Pooka.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Nakua go up and get it.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Look at this one handed grab against the Panthers, I
mean the colin that is phenomenal. This guy's doing some
crazy stuff. Now, if you watch it closely. Pooka goes
up with the right hand and just snares it. Yeah,
I'm unbelievable. Now, there were a couple other incredible catches
in the NFL yesterday. This seems to be the clubhouse
leader for catch of the year. Puka did, of course,
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watch as Stafford through a pick six. The Rams did lose.
It was a weird loss for the Rams because their
offense was incredible.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Colin, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It's hard, you know, like Denver's defense last night and
the Rams defense yesterday, it's hard to get guys to
answer the bell seventeen weeks. Offense is different if you
have a great quarterback and you separate with your receivers
Puka and Davonte. It's hard to stop smart offensive coaches
and quarterbacks in this league. But defense is about effort
(22:36):
and explosion and brute force. It's hard to get a
great performance every week.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Bryce Young cooked him on.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
He had two incredible fourth down touchdown passes. Yes, the
funniest thing I heard was Bryce Young is selectively elite. Okay,
go up against the Saints at home, He's garbage. Go
up against the Rams or Packers. It's like, oh Man,
Bryce Young could make some passes. Colin, I know it's
a deeper discussion. I keep going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
What do you do with him in the offing it?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Listen, this is why you get paid the big bucks.
He's inconsistent, but there's no disputing this. Carolina is a
real team.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
They've got a very good coach and Bryce about every
other game looks like this. Now you could argue young
quarterbacks like BONICKX or Caleber less consistent. I mean, it's just,
I mean, he's just it's hard to unsee that Niner
game where he just shrunk.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
But I mean a Saints game, he was terrible.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
I mean, like against the Saints, who are maybe the
second worst team in the league.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It ain't the Jets. I'll just say this about Bryce.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
We saw what like, uh, Sam Darnold got like a
in the NBA they call it the fun Max, which is.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like a lot of money but not max deal.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And then Baker Mayfield got it. And and you know,
I think one of those probably got to Bryce Young. Yeah, hey,
we're gonna keep him around for two more years. Canalis
very good coach. I mean they've won seven games this year, Colin,
they won seven the last two years combined. Yeah, okay,
Teed McMillan, your guy from Arizona showing wells, they're fun. Yeah,
all right, let's move on college football. Well, here we
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go a lot of debate. Miami Hurricanes, they whooped up
on Pitts, So obviously, Honey Colin said, so, hey, that's
a great win over pit with those beautiful throwback unis
head coach Mario crystal Ball lobbying hard for his team
to get in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Everybody want to.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
See how Miami would do in the cold weather on
the road against the top twenty five team, and I
think we answered those questions very clearly. So at the
end of the day, it's not only do we pass
the eye tests, we passed the field test, right, especially
as it relates to playing this brand of football down
the stretch. And it had to head competition versus others
that are being judged in the same little pool that
we are as well.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Plus we're getting healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah noah, So I watched this game and I thought
it was going to be close. And after this game
you do a little homerk. So think of this. Miami
won head to head.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, time out, time out. That needs content.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Let me finish. Okay, it still matters. Even in the NFL.
The number one tie breaker is head to head. Now,
September football doesn't mean as much in college or the
NFL that it did five years ago. September doesn't mean
what it used to do in college football. It's never
meant anything in the NFL. But head to head matters.
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Miami won. They had four common opponents. In three of four,
Miami beat the team worse than Notre Dame did. Okay,
so in three or four Miami has the better total
defense and scoring defense. Miami has the better passing offense,
yards per game, total touchdowns. And I thought it was
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a legitimate quote. I thought they would go here cold weather,
win and be ugly. They were great. So they blew
out North Carolina State thirty four, pit by thirty one,
Stanford by thirty five, Syracuse by twenty eight. I gotta
tell you, when this game was over, my take was, Okay,
we got to be fair on head to head. You
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got to contextualize it because it was in Miami. But
you know what, sometimes that's the reality of the schedule.
You don't get every game, big game at home. If
they did USC.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Would be a league.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Right Sometimes, I mean this year Texas A and M
doesn't play Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma or Old Miss. Schedules matter.
Miami got a break, they got notre Dame at home
I right now this morning. I mean, Miami would have
a right to be pissed, like, hey, we scheduled you,
so we know you and.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We beat you.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Okay, time out again context, you said September football, it matters,
We're not August football.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
This game was August thirty. First skulling.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
It was a first ever start, not and a rainstorm
on the league.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But it was August for both teams. Yes, and I won, right,
Okay at home? Great? What I mean again, that's I mean,
that's listen, Texas got Texas A and M in Austin.
Sometimes that's the way it works. I mean it's very rare.
Like Ohio State lost at Oddson last year. Luckily they
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got to play them again. But if they hadn't, people
would have said, well, Oregon's better. But that way they
played a second time, Ohio State beating by like forty.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
But doesn't that show that the first meeting means nothing.
That first lost my High State and that nothing, No.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
No, it didn't because it validated how good Oregon was
and Miami's win when you couple it with three wins,
they have common opponents. So so not only does Miami
have had the head. Okay, let's go to common opponents. No,
Miami wins that too, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Wait a minute, by scoring margins.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
So hey, you you beat South Florida by more than
Notre Dame or whatever the team is. What about the
losses you've conveniently ignored.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
No losing to Louisville SMU.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
And not even making the acci I said last week,
punitive losses are what kept Bama out last year when
they lost a bandy, because losing Oklahoma didn't kill Bama.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So I'm not denying it. The reason this is a
go either way argument are the ugly losses. But you
start stacking the arguments. So I mean, here, here's a
prime example. If I say, okay, what is the best
Miami win, they can say, well, we did beat Notre Dame.
Go to Notre Dame, and what is your best win?
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Well we beat USC I guess, okay, okay, USC half
you want.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Lincoln Riley fired, Okay, okay, So I think it is
a good win but Illinois beat Notre Dame and Oregon
hammered you, or the Illinois beat USC and and Notre
Dame hammered USC and Oregon hammered us. And I'm not
saying I'm just saying, so I beat them head to head.
I have the quality win common opponents. I mean, at
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some point we got to be fair about we can't
do like last week my take was I think Notre
Dame would win. Well, that's not the way it works
in the NFL. You go tie break or common opponents
head to head. It's not fair for me to just go, well,
I think Notre Dame would win. I do.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Actually that's not fair, No, totally. Now here's where it
gets real crazy. What if Alabama beats Georgia. You can't
keep alabamaut of the place off right now, I don't
know if they're in.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But if Alabama beats Georgia and the.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
SEC title, Bama's in and cayleb we.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Think they're in. Who are they in ahead of? Are
they definitely ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Of not I am not anti Notre Dame. I love
Marcus Freeman, but Notre Dame loves all the upside of independence.
I love being an independent well, Miami, they're in a conference,
and sometimes in a conference the schedule goes your way
and sometimes it doesn't. I mean, Ohio State would have
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rather played in Columbus than ann Arbor. They were the
better team. I have to take out. I can't do
confirmation bias at some point, head to head, common opponents,
better defense, better pass game. And when I watched them
beat Pittsburgh, it's like they beat the holy hell out
of them.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Like any Miami fan that says conference, you just say
strength to schedule. Who had a tougher way and it's
Notre Dame by a mile. So it's a fun discussion.
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Final story.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Colin Lamarge accent boy, Hey listen, we tried to warn
you guys. Lamar is not the same guy he has
been and uh, I don't know. He looked so lost
against the Bengals. Yeah, the turnovers were anemic. He just
doesn't have the escapability now he's been back.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
From injury for a while. Colin, I don't know. Here
he is talking.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
About his struggles against the Bengals, who have one of
the worst defenses in the league.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Chick, you know it's not even frushing I'm just mad because,
like I said.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We can't have that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
It turned overs a big part of winning losing games
and turning the ball over giving them an extra possession.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
This is the outcome.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I mean, what's gonna do with the Ravens. What
do you do with them?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Are they good? They're good, They're better than the Steelers,
But I will find out this week.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
That's another game, which is like, you know, in a
game with in a week with seven incredible games, Raven
Steelers is like maybe fifth because these teams are not
really watchable.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Dude. They starting Thursday, Lions, Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
This is maybe the best football weekend of twenty twenty
five cause there's Thursday, then you get to play the
college football game Saturday and the Sunday slates off the hook.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I mean it's Lamar Jackson. We're showing our television audience this.
Lamar Jackson's passer rating in his last three games is
sixty three, and that's falling off a cliff. And we
know the coach is good. I mean, it's just it's wild.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
We can't say, like, hey, he doesn't have receivers.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
I mean, Josh Allen is throwing to nobody's Okay, thanks fair,
this is this is not a great look for Lamar.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh, you're right. Jmck with the news.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah. I think the Miami Notre Dame thing is. I mean,
I'm watching the pit game and I'm like, man, that's impressive.
Then you start looking at all the numbers and you're like, Okay,
I gotta be fair on this. You gotta be fair
head to head now, it's gotta be something common. Opponents
have to be something. Well. Our schedule, Well, schedules are weird.
I mean half the time, like Texas has beaten three
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teams that were ranked in the top ten when they
played him. So that's why I would have no problem
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in a huge Top fifteen showdown as freshman phenom Cameron
Boozer leads number four Duke against Tom Izzo's eleventh ranked
Michigan State squad. It all tapes off at eleven thirty
am Eastern only on Fox.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
By the way, Michigan State quietly hired Pat Fitzgerald, the
former Northwestern coach who won his lawsuit against the school.
So Fitzgerald is a very good football coach. Jonathan Smith
was released of his duties and Pat Fitzgerald comes in
very quietly. That's a really good hire. So you know,
another argument for the Miami Hurricanes Notre Dame. It's Notre
(33:01):
Dame's an independent, so they have more flexibility with their schedule.
Miami tried to schedule tough. They scheduled Florida, an SEZ team.
It wasn't their fault they beat them. That Florida was
a tire fire. They beat Florida State in conference when
they were three and one. Florida State now looks horrible,
they weren't when Miami played them. They also scheduled South
Florida and that's South Florida super Bowl. They beat them too.
(33:23):
So Miami's in a conference, they're limited on what they
can do with schedule. They scheduled Florida, that's an SEC team.
You can't blame them. Florida went Sideways and Notre Dames
in Independence, so they have more flexibility with their schedule.
So I gotta The other thing is, listen, who's gonna
win Coach of the Year. I'm not a big Awards guy.
(33:44):
I don't really care, but you know, Mike Vrabel and
Ben Johnson deserve consideration. Jim Harbaugh has the Chargers at
eight and four, the lowest ranked offensive line due to injuries,
and they still run the football. Wow, I don't know.
And what Shanahan's done and Robert Salah to this team,
(34:06):
they have a buy now at nine and four, it's
pretty remarkable. No Bosa, no Warner. Remember they lost Greenlaw
and Hufunga in the offseason Denver bottom, so they went
in under the gun. Mikhel Williams the Georgia defensive end.
Now he got hurt too, the first round guy. So
they're doing it with duct tape and great coaching in
(34:27):
the NFL is a little like gold mining. You know,
it's a very few gems and you got to dig
through a lot of rubble and soil and dirt and
rock to find the gold gems. But Shanahan's done an
unbelievable job with this team. And we always give Coach
of the Year to you know, and they're deserving to
Vrabel and Ben Johnson. It's really been the year of coaching.
(34:49):
But I think what Harbaugh's done, how they run the football,
Hampton's coming back, watch out, and what Shanahan has done.
I don't remember remember a team on one side of
a ball that has lost more from the end to
last season to now, and they've been unbelievably good. I mean,
(35:11):
Shador Sanders wasn't bad. It's Stefanski knows what he's doing,
and they've got talent. Nope, they mean all the big plays.
Here's Kyle after.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
I thought the Divas sevent the tone all day. Really,
I mean, I think they got that one score with
that the double move, I think they ran it felt
like nine plays in in a row, set it up
and got that score and every drive after that. Man,
I thought our DV was real good. I made some
adjustments at halftime. Did better in the run game, I
thought in the second half, But fourth down was the
big home. It's good to turnovers when you stop him
on fourth down.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
They are eighth in the NFL in defense, and again
they've played a division where they've got a face. Darnold
and Stafford and Devonte Adams. I mean they, you know,
even going on the road, crappy weather, Schador Sanders. I
thought that Cleveland was one of my favorite pixel Then
here's Matt Hasselback earlier on the adversity the Niners have
(36:04):
battled through.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I remember Chuck Plegano was my head coach one year
and we had, you know, a lot of different adversity
that we were we were kind of facing. And it
felt like every single team meeting started out with so
what now what?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Like so what now what?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You didn't make an excuse, You're gonna.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Find a way.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
And I think that's an example of what San Fran
has done. And this is another team I would not
count out. I think people have counted this team out
because the Rams and the Seahawks have been so good.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
But don't count out san Fran.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
They got a I think they they're in control of
a lot of things, and they've proven that they can
win without their star players.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Okay, one of the great mysteries in the NFL is
why doesn't everybody love Jordan Love? So we're gonna play
blind resume j mac. Here are the numbers for Jordan
Love of the Green Bay Packers, with the youngest offense
in the league. Right, doesn't always plan the best weather.
Jordan Love eight three and one, nineteen touchdowns, three picks,
(36:58):
one hundred and four passer, sixty seven percent completion percentage.
So let's play a little blind resume. He was great
against Detroit and nobody loves him. So for our radio audience,
we're throwing up a quarterback who is virtually identical to
Jordan Love's numbers so far this year. Who is that
quarterback Tom Brady in twenty twenty Brady's last Super Bowl
(37:23):
winning season, same numbers, and we're like Brady's the goat,
unbelievable seedon. Let's play it again. Jordan Loves number so far. Okay,
this quarterback, I mean, doesn't even have the passer rating
yards per attempt slightly back. Who's this quarterback Matt Stafford
(37:47):
in his Super Bowl winning year? J Mack is win
seeing it the data that is being presented. So let's
do another Jar Love blind resume. So we got Brady
and Stafford in super Bowl winning years. Okay, this quarterback
is clearly, clearly not quite as good as Jordan Love.
(38:09):
The numbers are all off a little bit from Jordan's
numbers this year. Who is this quarterback? Oh, Patrick Mahomes
last Super Bowl win, He's got a significantly higher passer
rating and yards per attempt? Let's do one more.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Maybe you've heard of Mahomes, Stafford and Brady Tittle. Why Tittle?
They didn't play in shoes, so you have to have
playing in shoes. All right? So let's fine Because I'm
watching Jordan against Detroit and I'm like, tall, athletic, big arm, aggressive,
doesn't throw picks. What is it with Jordan Love? I
know I didn't know what he was gonna be, but
(38:47):
I mean, at this point he's good. So this next
quarterback our final round again, Jordan loves slightly better across
the board, especially in passer rating. Who is this quarterback?
Josh Allen be season?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh boy? Oh you love this stuff? I mean I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I'm not like a magician. I watch my words here
I had, but I have a copper field field to me.
I'll be honest with you. So are you said? What
are we saying here, Jordan Love? Is we love Stafford?
Brady Josh al Maholmes. It's hard to find anybody out
of Green Bay that'll just go. This kid's great. I
mean everybody. It brought Purty defenders, Jalen Hurt's defenders, Justin
(39:29):
Herbert defenders, and I like those guys too. Jordan Love
is fantastic.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
I mean, it was the Lions like I like the
Packers lot. It was only the Lions. You know, the
secondary not very good pass rush wasn't there. I gave
you season number.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I yeah, I'm don't where I don't know.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
I mean I like Jordan Love a lot. Remember we
talked about him as a potential MVP candidate. He loses Tuckerkraft.
The offensive line's been kind of beat up. Golden's not
always been there. Yes, Jayden Reid's been out for like
ten weeks or something. Yeah, this team is dangerous right now.
Where you in with the Packers? Oh, in the NFC higher.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I mean the Detroit game. Also, they have not run
the ball consistently, so he doesn't have a formidable run game.
The on line banks they overpaid for green Bay doesn't
do that very much. They may have overpaid for that
guard from the Niners. Their run game is not very good.
Major injuries lost Tucker Craft and they go to Detroit
(40:26):
and Detroit hasn't lost two in a row in forever,
and they, you know it, beat him soundly. They were
the better team.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
So this is a four to twenty five marquee game.
This weekend, Packers hosting the Bears. There's number one seed
in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
The len Okay, Okay, green Bay, Oh boy, green Bay
minus one and a half.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
Oh god, I'll give you a Mulligan tray again.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
You're not even close.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Green Bay minus three and a half, green.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Bay minus six and a half, Oh god, smallman on draft.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Picks, ridiculous, a rivalry division game six and a half.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
I'm just telling you Green Bay has a much better
odds for Super Bowl than gret Chicago.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Chicago.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
It's like right around nine to ten super Bowl odds.
Despite being number one in the NFC. The market is
telling you this Bears team is fugazi.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Now I'm not saying they are.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
I know Ben Johnson's gonna pull clips and give it
to his team.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
I'm not trashing them.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Packers big this weekend.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Colling just admit that Jordan love blind resume.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh you love that.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Your head is spinning. You don't know what to do,
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