January 9, 2026 • 41 mins
Colin shares his favorite bets for the Wild Card Round of the NFL playoffs including:
- - Rams at Panthers
- - Packers at Bears
- - Bills at Jaguars
- - 49ers at Eagles
Plus, 3-time National Champion Urban Meyer joins the show to tell Colin why they should have called Pass Interference on the final play of Miami v Ole Miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, hour two. It's a Friday. Urban Meyer
in five minutes. He used to coach in the SEC,
formerly known as the Dominating College Football Conference. I don't know.
Jay Mackett looks like the Mountain West with bigger stadiums.
That's what I see. Well, well, I mean it's the
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way I said this earlier. When you when they're certain,
I'll show it to Urban that one run play where
they're pushing all miss back ten yards. Nobody did that
to the SEC four years ago. Nick Saban there's a
reason Nick Saban could a host and left for television.
He saw it coming. If you took Texas and Texas
A and M out of the SEC, the Texas oil money,
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what would this conference be them? They can't compete getting
the top recruits. Now oil money, you can compete.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I don't think people understand the gravity of where this
is headed and how fast it's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Come no SEC team against go Look at their last
couple of years in the bowl games.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So what do you where are we in three years?
I mean, are we gonna have.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Like a Minnesota or some wacky Big ten millage on
who the boosters are exactly?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Mark Cuban wrote a massive eight figure check to Indiana
this win.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Where was Indiana three years ago? Nobody knows? Bottom of
the Big ten? Nobody cared about it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
They're now for fifty sixty years.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't as long as Signette's there and the money's
rolling in, they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Of course, by the for the record, Bloomington's an awesome
college town, so it's an easy place. I've known several
parents whose kids went there. They all love it. So
it's like a fun campus. I mean, it's a place
to go to college.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Like if I said better projection next five years, Indiana
or Auburn.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's not even clothes.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
But people don't understand that. Like in the SEC, they don't.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Grasp Oregon right now is a better college football program
than anybody in the SEC. They were not they would
have been like third four years ago. Oregon's absolutely got
better players, a better booster again. LSU's biggest booster is
a personal injury attorney, the biggest Georgia booster who rest
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in peace. The gentleman had passed away. It was a
kind of a bourbon whiskey distributor. Those are great boosters. Yeah,
can't be your number one in the nil era. Can't
be a car dealer, got to be a car maker.
This Tech's got oil money. Texas Tech has a better
future next five years. Just Tech has a billionaire. Yes,
Texas Tech is Indiana without Indiana's coach, the Signetti's just
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made it all work, all right, blazing five times. What
a regular season. We had sixty percent best here in
a while. I like my picks. Let's start our blazing
five postseason edition.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Let's blaze it up, Fired up. It's Collins Blazon Fuck
Ramsid Panthers.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Rams minus ten and a half is the side. They
had an NFL eight wins by fourteen plus points this season.
No team had that many big blowout wins. Number one offense,
number one scoring offense. They just lost to this team.
That is momentum at his motivation They're twelve to two
in games in which they have one or fewer turnovers.
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So if they can cut the turnovers down, and Stafford
hasn't had a lot of bad games this year, they're
gonna win the game. The question is by how much.
The Panthers are the only team to make the playoffs
with a negative point differential. Bryce Young has struggled this
season against good teams. Passer rating is seventy against playoff teams,
Rams win it, Rams cover final score thirty three to twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Packers at Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I like the Bears at home. Lousy weather, plus one
and a half. Bears have the number three rush offense,
don't turn the ball over, better O line, better run game,
lousy weather, forget vertical passing. I like the Bears their
offensive line. I think it's way better than people get
PFF hes it at number three. They've won two of
the last three games against Green Bay. Caleb Williams five
tens and a pick, and that pick was end zone
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late in the game, trying to make a play. The
Packers are in a four game losing streak heading into
the playoffs. They've lost for their last five playoff games.
Thirtieth rank total defense since Micah Parsons has left. I'm sorry,
it's not the same defense. Caleb's going to be comfortable
with a better run game. I like the Bears take
the points to win. Twenty seven twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Four Bills at Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I like the Jags plus one and a half. They're
four and one all time in home playoff games, eight
and zero since Week eleven, and have outscored teams by
almost three touchdowns. They're eight to zero against the spread
in their last eight games. Remind me of that Carolina
team with Cam Newton. They just got hot and you're like,
get out of the way. I get out of the
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way of this team. Defense is held opponents under twenty
points or fewer in six straight games, and Trevor Lawrence
in his last six games on an absolute heater. The
Bills have trailed in the second half seven and the
last ten games. That is no way to beat good
teams on the road. They cannot stop the run. The
Bills have the worst run defense of every playoff team.
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I like the Jags to win. Superman or not at
quarterback for Buffalo thirteen to twenty seven, Jbil forty nine
Ers at Eagles listen. I'm gonna go Eagles minus five
and a half. I worry about Piersoll and Trent Williams.
They do have the number one red zone offense, so
they get sevens not threes. They also have one turnover
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in the last three games, so they're you know, they've
won three straight games. I do think they run the
ball a little better recently Saquon Barkley last four games.
It's got four hundred rushing yards. They're at home to
the better team, to the healthier team. List in the
Niners against Vic Fangio. Jmack talked about it earlier this week.
The Niners and Shanahan against Vic Fangio average twelve points
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a game. They struggle against him, and they're two dependent
on Christian McCaffrey. The defense has the fewest sacks in
the league. Jalen Hurts is comfortable at home. Better roster,
healthier roster. I'm gonna take the Eagles to win and
the Eagles to cover twenty eight to twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oregon versus Indiana.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I like Indiana minus three and a half. I don't
think that game at Otson was a score close at
the score indicated Indiana's coming off back to back wins
where they hammered Alabama and they beat Ohio State three
and zero against top ten opponents this year, I'd argue
Indiana plays better against better teams. They crushed a good
Illinois team, hammered Oregon to Dotson. They you know, they
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pushed around Ohio State. Did they not committed fewer turnovers
of any power for team this season? Eight giveaways. They
don't make mistakes, the quarterbacks probably the best player in
college football. And Oregon their defense has gotten a little leaky,
defending the run in two of their last three games.
Oregon's a very good team. I just don't think they're
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built defeat an Indiana team that is this efficient, this
well coach doesn't turn the ball over. I think Indiana wins.
I think Indiana covers. I think it's a really competitive
game with the two best college quarterbacks. Indiana thirty three,
Oregon twenty eight. So you know, I'm gonna pass on
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New England Chargers. I'm gonna pass on the Steelers Texans
because the number now is only three. That was gonna
be my fifth bet. I'm gonna take the Hoosiers. I
got Dogs, Jags and Bears. I got favorites Indiana Eagles
and the Rams. Jmack any opinion.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Loving the Rams pick. We'll talk Packers Bears in the
final segment of the show.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I like the Eagles pick based on what we saw
last night, Colin, we were moments away from Ole Miss
being in the Natty. I don't feel great about this
Indian Oregon game. Honestly, I have no It could go
either way. It feels like a coin flip, does it not?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Not to me?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But I think it's going Oregon to me, has an
argument as the second best team.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
How many of these rematches have we seen that have
gone the other way? That's true, And I know that's
like a silly handicapping thing. But the motivation factor maybe
erbing to talk about it, But like I just Oregon.
You know they're going to be fired up for revenge
after losing it home to Indian.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Urban Meyer now Fox Sports joining US Live seventeen years,
three national championships. Let's talk about that. About facing a
team for the second time. You do it in the
NFL all the time, you don't do it in college much.
How much of an advantage is it for the Oregon Ducks?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Hi, Colin, I've done it one time as in the
assistant coach. I don't think there's any bearing, you know.
I don't think that, uh uther than comfort and knowing
the personnel, you know. Other than that, I don't I
don't see that. I hear people trying to make a
big deal of that. Can you beat them twice a year?
This is a new game, new season for these two teams.
Everything's on the line. I'm actually staying at the Oregon
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Hotel right now. And this is a this is a
fired up outfit.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I love their coaching staff, and but I'll tell you
there's who this is. Atlanta has become Indiana Central. I've
never seen so many damn Indiana fants everywhere.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Wow, you know it's interesting. Belichick in his prime, the
Patriots didn't fumble. Indiana doesn't fumble. They don't drop passes.
How do you explain that? I mean, your teams were
well coached. It's it's crazy. How do you How do
you not fumble? Is it just something you do every
day in practice and commit to Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I mean I watched you don't fumble because the first
of all, the players have bought into the culture of
the program. Watch the tailbacks anytime, or receiver anytime they're
going through traffic. You see the right hand come right
over the ball every not partial all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Calling about Indiana, We've been covering a lot of big
new kickoff when they beat Nebraska last year, I walked
outside of the green mindself, I gotta watch this because Indiana,
the Indiana I know, never looked or played like this,
and so I'm gonna go watch this close. I don't
know if I, off the top of my head can
think of a mistake they made. I know they got
out talented a couple of times last year and lost
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some games. But I don't see the finer ponents points
of coaching, for example, perimeter blocking on offense, the tailback
picking up, blitz protection. You just talked about the turnovers.
Then on defense, run fits, disengaging blocks and blown coverages.
I'd like to see a videotape or whenever I've seen that.
You don't see that, and that to me, that is players. Obviously,
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coaches get credit players buying in to what these coordinators
in the head coach are teaching.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
It's awesome to watch, so.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There's so much fun listen I would be happy. I'd
be happy if anybody won this Natty. I just I'm
having so much fun this year with college football. I
want to talk about last night. I said this Mario Cristobal.
A team becomes the personality of their coach. Mario is
big and aggressive and physical and a big personality. And
Miami is not the most efficient team draw passes penalties,
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but they play with such ferocity and such confidence they
feel a little bit, a little bit of like a
pro team. And so my concern with Miami Urban is
they let other less talented teams back into games. But
in terms of speed, size, aggressiveness. Like, as a former coach,
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when you watch them, what do you see that you
like and that would concern you.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I think Miami is a problem. And what I mean
by a problem a problem for the other teams that
what's really fun to watch as a former coach is
that it's almost the physical teams are separating themselves right now.
You know, the pass happy the other type of offenses,
the other type of teams are starting to disappear.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
As a matter of fact, they're disappearing.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Teams that control the line of scrimmage, play great defense,
and are tough, tough as hell. They're the ones that
are winning games. And I personally love that. I love
the fact that Miami is just that one play where
the tailback got hit the offensive line in the entire
they got eight to ten yards post contact when you
saw their head coach on the sideline. I mean, I
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love that kind of football. I think I don't think.
I think Miami is a problem. And here's the problem
for the opponents. It's hard to score on Miami. And
now Carson Beck is playing like the Carson Beck that
everybody talked about for the last four years.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
That because he has all the talent.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Now he's taking care of the ball, He's making some
great throws. Miami is a problem for whoever wins this
game tonight, Indiana and Oregon.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Listen. I said this for it was like the SEC
one like thirteen Natties and fifteen or sixteen or something
years and you could see the gap in talent. It
is noticeable. I use that play you talked about, coach,
I said, that play, that run play. I'm sitting with
jmac here and I said, this did not happen four
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years ago to any SEC team. Maybe Vandy Oh, I
said this is now happening to ole Miss. I saw
it happened to LSU. I saw it happened to Alabama. Like,
I'm sorry, but the quality of SEC defenses it's just
not the same urban it doesn't look the same on talent.
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George's is good, but can't I mean, I mean, let's
be honest, Trinidad Chambliss did whatever he wanted to in
the last ten minutes of that game. You're seeing it,
I'm seeing I think Nick Saban figured it out, got
out of there. When you see it, it doesn't look
like it looked three years ago, does it? No?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
And I'm trying to find out why. I you know,
I've asked this, and I talked to a coach. I'm
not going to say his name because it's not Fardalm,
who played an SEC team recently. And when ever you're
playing that SEC team, all you do is you study
the SEC because you're playing your Every film you watch
is the previous ten games against SEC opponents. And he
made a comment to me exactly what you said. It's
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not the same. You don't have that same fear factor.
When you said the words SEC. The first thing you
thought of was the defensive front seven. How in the
heck are we going to block these guys? And now
you're seeing teams get I mean Indiana hammer in, Alabama,
Illinois hammeron was a Tennessee uh you know, and then
whop Vanderbilt another Big Ten team.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yet I think I b Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Hammered Vanderbilt, and that tells you whatever happens happened.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
I wish I had an explanation.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I've been thinking about this same for the last few
weeks because I lived in both. I lived in the
SEC where you got sick on Sundays watch and who
you're going to play because how you going.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
To block them?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
And then our coached early in the Big Ten and
you didn't feel that way at all because quite honestly,
wasn't hard.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's hard now, yeah, it's it's crazy. The uh so
a story happened this week and it just I didn't
like it. It's been resolved where Washington's quarterback Demon Williams
signed and said I'm going to enter the portal and
then his agent dropped it and said, We're not. And
my thing is urban. I give my kids occasional cake.
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They don't get it for breakfast. You got to have
rules and guidelines. If you're a company, a parent, a relationship,
there's guidelines for everything. That really bothered me that you
could sign a contract. Hell, if you sign a contract
in pro football, you can't get out of it. What
did coaches make of that? Now, apparently he's recommitted to Washington,
but that that felt like a tipping point moment. How
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did it land for you?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
That's the worst thing I've heard in the last ten
years of the game. And uh, when I started reading
up on it, I know the AD very well. I've
not reached out yet. At some point I will patch
on it. It was sickening to me that and I
don't know that, you know, I don't know de Bunk
Williams junior at all, but I know what I read
and I don't know how. And I saw coach Fish's statement,
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the AD statement, how we're going to try to heal
the locker room, which I guess I'm so old school.
I don't know how you heal that. You just turned
your back on a locker room. So I hope it does.
But it's the most disturbing thing I've heard. And I
also heard this from colleagues. It's like I'm the punching
bag Colin. I get about ten calls a week from
former colleagues of mine, and all they do is screaming
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yell at me about can you believe this is happening?
Then they're telling me stories, and something's got to happen.
There's got to be some kind of regulation and for
the good of the game and good of these players.
And yet the product on the field collins unbelievable. But
when I heard that, that's I have a hard time
getting over what I read.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh, I want to go back one one final thing,
so so I'll give you my before we get to it.
That when you and I get on the road to drive,
there's a speed limit, but you and I know there's
nuance and if it's fifty five and urban, you go
fifty eight, you're not getting a ticket. You also know
that judges in our judicial system it can be arbitrary.
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If you come in with a smart alec grin in
your face and you're a wise acre and there was
a real serious crime, the judge can give you a
longer sentence because he didn't like you. You didn't think.
So life is nuanced and gray. It's not all black
and White. I would not call a pass interference on
Miami in the end zone. You don't call him on
Hail Mary's in the NFL. In the NBA finals, you
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don't want to championship decided at the free throw line.
You got a really foul a player, So I didn't
think it should be pass interference. We can show the
play again. I thought if it was in the second quarter,
you may get that call. I don't think you get
that in the final throw. Did it bother you? Oh?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
It does bother me because of if it's a foul,
it's a foul. But I don't think you make that call.
You know, it has to be so flagrant that you
you you know you make that call. But as we're
watching it here, you know I dog gun it put
his left hands all over him calling. Oh yeah, I know,
dog gun it. You put me on the spot. You
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hate to have the official have a hand in the
final play. But for the record, but it is past interference.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think you get the call. Probably in the second
quarter they would give you that call.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
The left hand's the only thing that bothers me right there.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well, yeah, it bothers everybody, I think except Miami. Yeah,
I mean it's again, I know everybody disagrees with me.
They're like that that's past interviewing. Yeah, I know it is.
And I also know that Michael Jordan pushed off in
the NBA Finals. I know he pushed off, you get
it in the second quarter. My take is if he
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was grabbing the face mask or or you have to
call it, like right there, you're like, oh, that's that's probably.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Oh gosh calling, So you're saying, no, don't call it.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I I've watched Hail Mary's in the NFL. All they're
doing is banging into each other and boxing each other out,
and it's like, we're not we're not. I feel like
when you grab the face mask, if you grab it
so you'd ruin the vision, but you can. I mean
Belichick was great at this. You know, Belichick, depending on
the color of the jerseys, would have his guys who
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are like white gloves or darker gloves, because his takeaway
is you get to the corners of end zones where
that's not great. You know, they can't necessarily, officials don't
have the greatest view. You would like a white glove
and a white jersey you're grabbing and pushing it. There's
there's a lot of manipulation going on in the secondary.
I mean you see these targeting calls. I don't like
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those targeting calls at all. I didn't think that Miami
kids should have been thrown out, but I think at
that time in the game, you do probably get thrown out.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
All right, I'm fighting you call and throw the flag, man,
that's p I look at that, all right, give people
something to talk about. Throw the damn flag. I didn't
feel it that way last night because I didn't watching
it fifteen times in a row.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
All Right, Herb, it's great seeing you. Great scenior calling.
Uh yeah, Like listen, oh, miss fans they're like urban,
They're like, ah, god on that is. I'm not saying
it's no interference. I'm saying I wouldn't call it then.
It's all I ever noticed this in the morning during
rush hour traffic, nobody's getting a speeding ticket at two
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in the afternoon in your town, when nobody's on the freeway,
you give a speeding ticket for the same speed, You're
not gonna jam up all the traffic in morning traffic.
Everybody's going to work for a guy, even if you're
going fifteen miles. You're not screwing up Atlanta traffic, right,
But at two in the afternoon, if somebody's doing that,
then as a cop you pull him over. You say, bro,
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can't bob and weave inside now side of car.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Can you imagine the outrage if they had thrown a
flag and Ole Miss scored on the next play, that
would have been more controversial than Miami Ohio State what
twenty some odd years ago? Remember the pass interference? You know,
you just you can't throw the flag. I mean if
he blatantly tackled him, he.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Was just holding him. That was going on, That's going
on everywhere. Come on, yeah, I think it's I think
it's I did, like.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Irban app fine, after fifteen views, I changed my mind.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh it was just hiliriously fun. I'll say this. I
thought Miami was the best team. I thought they should
have won convincingly, but the game ended up at the
end kind of looking like old Miss games where it's
just Trinidad and Chandler's out there slinging it wit.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Is you think he could be a pro or is he.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Just a really draft him like fifth six? Or I
would draft him in the fifth round if he was available,
I just want him on my roster. I think he's
a great kid. I like his spirit, I like his movement.
I think he has a I don't think he has
a I think he has a good enough arm. I
just think that kid i'd like in my locker room.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Could he be like your number two quarterback? Like a
if I lawler Malik Willis back up.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
If I said to you, Tyrod Taylor with way better mobility,
like you're getting a grown up. And every time you
listen to the kid, he's a grown up. He's a
team guy. He's a wonderful guy. I think he plays
on Sunday and Oh, by the.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Way, he carried a fairist state to a national championship
and then goes to Ole Miss and nearly takes them.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
To the national chanp Sometimes you can't overthink the room
when you watch the ball come out of his hands.
When you watch it, it's got a lot of it's
got some juice, makes place and makes a bunch of players.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
That sounds goofy, but like.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That also, hind there's value in this. He seems like
a great kid. I like his story. Yeah, he had
to endure fairest state, I mean farrest state, Like in Michigan.
You go to Michigan or Michigan State, or Central Michigan
or Western Michigan, and when you run out of options
you go to you go there.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Nobody wanted this guy coming out of high school.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That just seems to me when I watch him, the
mobility is obvious. The ball seems to come out like fast.
There's a real energy to his ball, and so I
draft him. Yes, it's the Herd.
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Speaker 1 (23:52):
All sorts of stuff Today j Max got his picks.
He's been pretty hot this year. Not me hot, but
the pretty hot with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Turn on the news, this is the headline news.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
How long have I been on the show now, three years?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Maybe I don't think we've ever talked about the Jacksonville
Jaguars as much. That's how much they've turned it around.
Liam Cohen, Trevor Lawrence. I mean we're at the point
now where Tom Brady is talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Here on the show, Tom's talked about Cohen's influence on
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Liam's done a great job even when he was at
Tampa last year. Or he has a couple opportunities to,
you know, really kind of take the skill sets that
he's learned from other coaches that he's been around and
then morph them into a system where they have a
lot of good skill players. And Trevor is you know,
a coach has got to get the players a lot
of layups. Good OC's get their quarterbacks layups. You don't
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have to thread the need on every single throw. You
got guys that are wide open. Great, there's a big
margin of there on a big portion of the passes.
That's the goal of an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
That's what he's done. He's created clarity and an ease,
and Trevor Lawrence has delivered on that. It's you can't
make every throw difficult. You got to have We talked
about this with Mahomes when he came into the league.
He'd give you three great plays like MJ a game,
but mostly it was him hitting nine yard drags and
sideline stuff and bubble screens and getting all those down.
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Herbert's like that. Herbert doesn't miss the layouts. You can
ask your quarterback about four to five times to make
a great throw, and those, if you have the right protection,
you can make those. Can't ask him to make twelve
of those.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
So two questions.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Number one, the fact that Travis Hunter, you know, he
had an okay rookie year, I mean, can we even
call it okay?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But the fact that he got hurt.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
They add Jacobe Myers and the offense took off like
a rocket ship.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Does that say anything to you about Well.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Jacoby Myers is a pro. He can walk into any
locker room and he knows he knows the playbook in
two weeks. He can't ask rookies to do that, right,
so I think it added a big time grown up
Jacoby Myers. It's remarkable. He was in New England. He
was their best receiver. They let him go. He goes
to the Raiders. He's their best receiver. They let him go. Yeah,
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and by the way, what's the Raider offense after they
let him go? What was the Patriots offense after they
let him go? Like, I don't know why this guy
keeps bouncing around the league. Everywhere he goes he's an asset. Yeah,
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
The other aspect, So the defensive coordinator of the Jags,
Anthony Campanil, I know he doesn't get a lot of pub.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
So I covered high school sports in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
This guy was a legend, ended up going to Rutgers,
and he is really doing some.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Things with this Jags defense.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I hop people aren't talking about it, but I'm gonna
go ahead and guess. If Josh Allen is shut down
and the Bills get held to like thirteen fourteen, I
think this guy's going to get some interviews for head
coaching Johnson.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And he was a high school coach in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He was a high school player, then a coach and
then I mean this guy has done some things to
his defense. They play a lot of zone and the
Bills don't have a lot of zone beaters. They got
like Kean Coleman Palmer from the Chargers. There's just street line.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Guys, I'm starting to hear some could the Jags blow
them out and at that point Den McDermott's probably took.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
We've discussed this. The line does not make sense.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Something's out, something's going on this.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Buffalo and Josh Allen had been as dominating the last
six weeks, and this game was in Buffalo, they would
be like a seven to nine point favorite favorite. Jacksonville
isn't even a favorite, and they've been playing like this.
It's like, guys, the Helmets aren't playing the people.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Remember when the Chiefs played.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The Jags on Monday Night Football and then Devin Lloyd
had like the ninety nine yard pick six.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
A lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Like, oh, well, you know that flipped the game and
Chiefs should have won that. I thought the Jags were
the better. We talked about this, like go to the
Denver game. They harder game that was thirty five six,
by the way, the worst like Harball doesn't get beat
like that often playoff game last year when everybody was
hurt in Jacksonville. Just be careful Buffalo in this one.
Next story, let's go to the Dolphins firing up Mike
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McDaniel earlier this week. A lot of people are connecting
him with the Cleveland Browns opening, but a new report
indicates the Lions desperately want him to be the offensive coordinator. Yes,
Dan Campbell took over play calling late in the season
because Morton was not good.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Then they dump Morton recently.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You can make an argument if they land McDaniel, that's
the best coordinator higher because that would fit.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Look at GoF kids in company.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Dan Campbell, hire Mike McDaniel. This is one of those layups.
Go hire Mike McDaniel as your coordinator. Yeah, this is
exactly what he should do, because in Miami he could
never get the line in the quarterback to his loving.
Now he gets golf and a great o line. So
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Mike McDaniel made two of Pro Bowl or made the
playoffs with a bad old line. Now he gets a
great old line potentially, and a veteran quarterback who throws
goff throws a much better deep ball.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And remember Laporta was hurt at the end of the season,
missed a bunch of games.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'll tell you right now, what did Detroit go this
sh you're eight and nine right now, McDaniel goes to
the Lions. That's back to that thirteen five, thirteen four.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
They got a lot of pieces on offense. The defense
leaves some things to be desired. Let me ask, though
McDaniel obviously would fit in the seamlessly, should he aim
for a head coaching job.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
He's not going to get a head coaching job. Cliff
Kingsbury's not a head coach. Not eight jobs, Colin, we
got fight eight head coaches.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You will. I mean you got.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Hardboss Stefanski and Mike McCarthy, all proven head coaches. So
of those eight jobs, you're down to five. Also, Brian
Flores probably has a chance to get one.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think the lawsuit against the league is still pending.
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I just if I go, if I'm McDaniel, I walk
into head coaching interviews. Guys, I got this Dolphins mess
with my GM who got fired and couldn't hit a
draft pick to save his life. I got them to
the playoffs twice with two of.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Who nobody wants. Why isn't Brian Dable being mentioned? Good question, Like,
if you told me tomorrow Brian Dabele gets the Atlanta
Falcons job, I'd be like, Oh, I think they'll win
the division.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere. That's very strange.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, Why why isn't Brian Dabele won a playoff game
with Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Do you think he's would instantly be a candidate for Buffalo?
Remember he was the OC there for Josh Allen.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, maybe, I think that'd be a great show.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I Dable's good. I like Dabe all right.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Final story, Colin drop mock draft one point, Oh, yesterday
got my guy Mendoza up top. Obviously Dante Moore to
my Jets and uh, you know some people obviously unhappy
as mock drafts come out. Wait, we wouldn't take that guy.
I'm heavy on the offensive line. We've seen the issue
in the trenches around the league. Chiefs lose their offensive,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Let me let me look at this, Let me look
at this. So don't he Coutte Moore coming out?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I mean a lot of people do. I got two
quarterbacks in the top ten, that's it. Ty Simpson a
little further down. Baine, by the way, last night was
super quiet. He had I think one pressure in the game,
but he's still elite. The guy that is interesting to
me Carnell Tate from Ohio State. If he goes to
Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin, that's an instant offense. In Washington,
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they don't have an OC right now. What do you
think about Caleb Downs? The Ohio State stud have him
ten to the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Here's the problem with Downs.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
We're seeing a lot of NFL teams utilize safeties in
different ways now around the league. I wonder if Downs
moves up higher into the top tens.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So I'm gonna name the conference your top fifteen players. Oh,
here we go, Big ten, Big ten, ACC ACC, Big twelve, SEC,
Big ten, Big ten, Big twelve, Big ten, Big ten,
ACC SEC Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Not a lot of SEC in there.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And I think Cayden Green feels like a bit of
a reach. Not that it's a bad by you, but
I'm saying he could easily not go in this space.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So wasn't there a year where there were like ten
SEC guys in.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
The person when you I noticed it this year watching
George's defense. I was just like, oh, you can move
the ball in Georgia. You could not move the ball
in Georgia four years ago. Nobody could.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Jeremiah Love a little low to Baltimore. I think there's
a soft reset with the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Let me tell you something. If the Giants get Spencer
Fano out of Utah, you just found a ten year
right tackle between and also also see I would do this.
I'm not a big fan of drafting wide receivers high.
What the you bring Fano in it? Right tackle? And
then if Andrew Thomas, who has a history getting banged up,
is out, you move Fano over. The Giants have to
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draft a tackle. Second pick should be a tight end.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Well, they got theo Johnson and Bellinger are serviceable, you know,
neighbors the wide receiver. This offense, Daniel Jeremiah convinced me
of this. This offense is about to take off with
Jackson dark. They've got guys when they're healthy next year.
The defense leaves a little something.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
To be desired.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's fun.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I need wide receivers up there. That was the biggest art.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
As you drop this, where is your mock draft at
on Instagram on ig.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
You don't follow me there yet, still do you?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't go to an Instagram along are You're more
of a TikTok guy.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Now. I like TikTok, I go, I go, I read
books occasionally, occasionally I'll go on X because I put
my podcast on there.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You need to just pull the pin on a grenade,
throw it on X and then leave for five hours.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's the strategy Joe roganstyle. Yeah, just put in a
hot take and then leave and let everyone, let all
the fish just argue over it and.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Just that's quite a strategy.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
J Mack with a news.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
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Speaker 3 (33:52):
Wild Card Weekend has two huge games on Fox. Tomorrow,
MVP front runner Matthew Stafford leads the Rams again, It's
Bryce Young and the Panthers. Then on Sunday, Jalen Hurts
and the defending champion Eagles take on Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
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on Bucks.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
When you watch Indiana and Oregon play tonight, you're going
to see the two best college quarterbacks that both would
be if they came out, it'd be one and two
in the draft. Put them in any order you want.
I like Mendos a little bit more, but they're both
really good, good kids, good good core quarterbacks. Both can
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move more and moves a little better. But when you
watch Indiana, really good coaching just jumps off the TV.
They just don't make any mistakes. They haven't had an
Aaron snap all year, not one. Fewest drop passes, best
in the red zone, they haven't had a fumble since
the eighteenth play of the season. It's just now. Some
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of it is the age of their team. They're just
an older, more mature team. They really push the ball
down the field. They go, they throw the ball deep
down the field. So Mendoz is a real key here.
Signette's done a remarkable job. But they were good last year,
but they weren't special. Here's Urban on what he sees
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with their coaching.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You don't fumble because the first of all, the players
have bought into the culture of the program. Watch the
tailbacks anytime, or receiver anytime they're going through traffic. You
see the right hand come right over the ball, not
partial all the time. I don't know if I, off
the top of my head can think of a mistake
they made.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, they just don't. I like Indiana. I think it's
pretty close tonight. All right, let's put up the weekend's
playoff matchups. There is one game we all sort of
agree with. Rams probably beat the Panthers. You know, they
played before Matt Stafford did not play particularly well, So
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that game on Fox, I think the Rams win. Again.
A lot of Ram wins are They're an interesting team.
They'll have these three series stretches where they stall and
they're three and out. And I don't love their special teams.
I mean, if they gave up a kickoff for a
touchdown and missed two field goals and they ended up
winning by just a touchdown, but dominated, I mean it
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could if it looks a little bit like Miami Ole
miss last night, Like how is this game close? I
could see that, But I still think they would win.
Green Bay and the Bears. Everybody's all over the map
on that one. You know, it's the third time they've played.
Tom Brady talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
This is what you love about it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
These two teams know each other so well.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Guys are coming out of you know, some unherlded receivers
from the Bears have made some plays late in these games.
So it is a super tight matchup for this game.
This is one of the most intriguing games of the weekend.
I can't wait to see how both teams played. And look,
they know each other so well. So now it really
does come down to the fundamentals.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, it comes down to turnovers. So go back to
the board again looking at the games. So the weekend
starts with a dominating team, heavily favored. Then it goes
into teams playing for the third time. Then it goes
into Sunday early, a wild potential Bills Jaguars game. The
Bills have the best player, the Jags have the hottest team.
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Then you go into kind of an iconic Niners at
the Eagles, where it's really about health in the forty
nine Ers, if they're healthy, they can beat anybody. Chargers Patriots,
where you have two quarterbacks who kind of want Herbert
feels like the East Coast version, you know, Drake May
and vice versa. And then Monday you've got a Texans
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team that doesn't score much but as the best defense
against the Steelers and forty two year old Aaron Rodgers.
So what I like about the weekend? You're getting in
a variety of games. You're getting first playoff game. Guy,
you're getting wonky, weird Jaguar franchise with a chance to
upend the Buffalo Bills franchise with a win. Jmack one
(38:14):
hour from now has his picks. If I took the Rams,
let's just say, I don't give away your picks. But
if I said to you, there's a crazy headline after
the weekend, Like, there's a headline, You're like, because you
know what's going to happen wild Card weekend. There's going
to be a weird, weird moment.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Jaguars thirty one to ten, Bills fire their coach, and
the headlines are, boy, all the highest paid quarterbacks, the
superstar quarterbacks are out, either missed the playoffs or they
lose in the first round. What do we do about
paying franchise quarterbacks and the money? This is because Lamar,
Remember he's not happy with his deal.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
He wants a new one.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
He's got a seventy four million cap hit next year.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I just I don't know if it's sustainable. You look
at that Chiefs roster. I know we got some chiefs
fans of the network, a lot of terrible a top
twenty roster in the league. Look, just don't have dune.
Look at the Bills defense, there's nobody. So if you
look at who's in here, it is and this includes
bo Nix and Sam Darnold next Weeknd's it's either quarterbacks
on rookie deals or quarterbacks with reasonably team friendly deals.
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Sam Darnold pretty team friendly. Brock pretty pretty team friendly.
I'm justin Herberts is viewed as pretty team Friendlyn hurts, yep,
Jalen hurts. Josh Allens is not team friendly. No, it's
Josh Allen makes a lot of money. Aaron Rodgers. By
the way, team friendly deal, it feels like a new era,
And it's weird because in college football there's this new
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era with the NIL. I feel like the NFL is
going through a bit of a sea change right now
with the way teams are built.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I don't it's unsustainable.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Well, Tom Brady was never the highest paid quarterback, never once.
That's a great yeah, never. Tom Brady was never the
highest paid quarterback. So you have to make decisions. Yeah,
I mean, Stafford is the biggest cap hit playing this
weekend after Josh Allen the other.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
One, and listen, you know we love him. If Justin
Herbert loses, he will then fall to zero to three
in the playoffs. Remember Dan Reno or Peyton Manning famously
could not win a playoff game to save his life early.
But I do think if the Chargers lose and Herbert's
not great, Oh Justin Herbert seed is not that good,
can't win a playoff game? That what's for that narrative
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to emerge. I think the Chargers are gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But the fact that Chargers win eleven and six with
the lowest rated offensive line in the league. It's not
like it's good against it's not good in pass protection.
It's thirty two and thirty one. It's no team since
PFF has started ranking a lines has ever won a
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playoff game with an offensive line as bad as the
LA Charger.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
The way, if the Chargers win that game, they will
then go to Denver next.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Think about this yeah, okay, they beat Denver once and
the Remax.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Last week they played all backups and it was nip
and tuck. Denver couldn't score with their start bow Knicks.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Who's watching on TV this weekend? His cap pit is
seven percent of Josh Allen's cap pit. Well, why is
Denver's roster so good? There you go, who's got the Yeah,
I mean Denver's O line, Denver's D line, Denver secondary
you know, all right, Yeah, last hour of the week
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, hour two. It's a Friday. Urban Meyer
in five minutes. He used to coach in the SEC,
formerly known as the Dominating College Football Conference. I don't know.
Jay Mackett looks like the Mountain West with bigger stadiums.
That's what I see. Well, well, I mean it's the
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way I said this earlier. When you when they're certain,
I'll show it to Urban that one run play where
they're pushing all miss back ten yards. Nobody did that
to the SEC four years ago. Nick Saban there's a
reason Nick Saban could a host and left for television.
He saw it coming. If you took Texas and Texas
A and M out of the SEC, the Texas oil money,
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what would this conference be them? They can't compete getting
the top recruits. Now oil money, you can compete.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I don't think people understand the gravity of where this
is headed and how fast it's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Come no SEC team against go Look at their last
couple of years in the bowl games.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So what do you where are we in three years?
I mean, are we gonna have.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Like a Minnesota or some wacky Big ten millage on
who the boosters are exactly?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Mark Cuban wrote a massive eight figure check to Indiana
this win.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Where was Indiana three years ago? Nobody knows? Bottom of
the Big ten? Nobody cared about it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
They're now for fifty sixty years.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't as long as Signette's there and the money's
rolling in, they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Of course, by the for the record, Bloomington's an awesome
college town, so it's an easy place. I've known several
parents whose kids went there. They all love it. So
it's like a fun campus. I mean, it's a place
to go to college.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Like if I said better projection next five years, Indiana
or Auburn.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's not even clothes.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
But people don't understand that. Like in the SEC, they don't.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Grasp Oregon right now is a better college football program
than anybody in the SEC. They were not they would
have been like third four years ago. Oregon's absolutely got
better players, a better booster again. LSU's biggest booster is
a personal injury attorney, the biggest Georgia booster who rest
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in peace. The gentleman had passed away. It was a
kind of a bourbon whiskey distributor. Those are great boosters. Yeah,
can't be your number one in the nil era. Can't
be a car dealer, got to be a car maker.
This Tech's got oil money. Texas Tech has a better
future next five years. Just Tech has a billionaire. Yes,
Texas Tech is Indiana without Indiana's coach, the Signetti's just
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made it all work, all right, blazing five times. What
a regular season. We had sixty percent best here in
a while. I like my picks. Let's start our blazing
five postseason edition.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Let's blaze it up, Fired up. It's Collins Blazon Fuck
Ramsid Panthers.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Rams minus ten and a half is the side. They
had an NFL eight wins by fourteen plus points this season.
No team had that many big blowout wins. Number one offense,
number one scoring offense. They just lost to this team.
That is momentum at his motivation They're twelve to two
in games in which they have one or fewer turnovers.
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So if they can cut the turnovers down, and Stafford
hasn't had a lot of bad games this year, they're
gonna win the game. The question is by how much.
The Panthers are the only team to make the playoffs
with a negative point differential. Bryce Young has struggled this
season against good teams. Passer rating is seventy against playoff teams,
Rams win it, Rams cover final score thirty three to twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Packers at Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I like the Bears at home. Lousy weather, plus one
and a half. Bears have the number three rush offense,
don't turn the ball over, better O line, better run game,
lousy weather, forget vertical passing. I like the Bears their
offensive line. I think it's way better than people get
PFF hes it at number three. They've won two of
the last three games against Green Bay. Caleb Williams five
tens and a pick, and that pick was end zone
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late in the game, trying to make a play. The
Packers are in a four game losing streak heading into
the playoffs. They've lost for their last five playoff games.
Thirtieth rank total defense since Micah Parsons has left. I'm sorry,
it's not the same defense. Caleb's going to be comfortable
with a better run game. I like the Bears take
the points to win. Twenty seven twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Four Bills at Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I like the Jags plus one and a half. They're
four and one all time in home playoff games, eight
and zero since Week eleven, and have outscored teams by
almost three touchdowns. They're eight to zero against the spread
in their last eight games. Remind me of that Carolina
team with Cam Newton. They just got hot and you're like,
get out of the way. I get out of the
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way of this team. Defense is held opponents under twenty
points or fewer in six straight games, and Trevor Lawrence
in his last six games on an absolute heater. The
Bills have trailed in the second half seven and the
last ten games. That is no way to beat good
teams on the road. They cannot stop the run. The
Bills have the worst run defense of every playoff team.
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I like the Jags to win. Superman or not at
quarterback for Buffalo thirteen to twenty seven, Jbil forty nine
Ers at Eagles listen. I'm gonna go Eagles minus five
and a half. I worry about Piersoll and Trent Williams.
They do have the number one red zone offense, so
they get sevens not threes. They also have one turnover
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in the last three games, so they're you know, they've
won three straight games. I do think they run the
ball a little better recently Saquon Barkley last four games.
It's got four hundred rushing yards. They're at home to
the better team, to the healthier team. List in the
Niners against Vic Fangio. Jmack talked about it earlier this week.
The Niners and Shanahan against Vic Fangio average twelve points
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a game. They struggle against him, and they're two dependent
on Christian McCaffrey. The defense has the fewest sacks in
the league. Jalen Hurts is comfortable at home. Better roster,
healthier roster. I'm gonna take the Eagles to win and
the Eagles to cover twenty eight to twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oregon versus Indiana.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I like Indiana minus three and a half. I don't
think that game at Otson was a score close at
the score indicated Indiana's coming off back to back wins
where they hammered Alabama and they beat Ohio State three
and zero against top ten opponents this year, I'd argue
Indiana plays better against better teams. They crushed a good
Illinois team, hammered Oregon to Dotson. They you know, they
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pushed around Ohio State. Did they not committed fewer turnovers
of any power for team this season? Eight giveaways. They
don't make mistakes, the quarterbacks probably the best player in
college football. And Oregon their defense has gotten a little leaky,
defending the run in two of their last three games.
Oregon's a very good team. I just don't think they're
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built defeat an Indiana team that is this efficient, this
well coach doesn't turn the ball over. I think Indiana wins.
I think Indiana covers. I think it's a really competitive
game with the two best college quarterbacks. Indiana thirty three,
Oregon twenty eight. So you know, I'm gonna pass on
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New England Chargers. I'm gonna pass on the Steelers Texans
because the number now is only three. That was gonna
be my fifth bet. I'm gonna take the Hoosiers. I
got Dogs, Jags and Bears. I got favorites Indiana Eagles
and the Rams. Jmack any opinion.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Loving the Rams pick. We'll talk Packers Bears in the
final segment of the show.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I like the Eagles pick based on what we saw
last night, Colin, we were moments away from Ole Miss
being in the Natty. I don't feel great about this
Indian Oregon game. Honestly, I have no It could go
either way. It feels like a coin flip, does it not?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Not to me?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But I think it's going Oregon to me, has an
argument as the second best team.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
How many of these rematches have we seen that have
gone the other way? That's true, And I know that's
like a silly handicapping thing. But the motivation factor maybe
erbing to talk about it, But like I just Oregon.
You know they're going to be fired up for revenge
after losing it home to Indian.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Urban Meyer now Fox Sports joining US Live seventeen years,
three national championships. Let's talk about that. About facing a
team for the second time. You do it in the
NFL all the time, you don't do it in college much.
How much of an advantage is it for the Oregon Ducks?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Hi, Colin, I've done it one time as in the
assistant coach. I don't think there's any bearing, you know.
I don't think that, uh uther than comfort and knowing
the personnel, you know. Other than that, I don't I
don't see that. I hear people trying to make a
big deal of that. Can you beat them twice a year?
This is a new game, new season for these two teams.
Everything's on the line. I'm actually staying at the Oregon
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Hotel right now. And this is a this is a
fired up outfit.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I love their coaching staff, and but I'll tell you
there's who this is. Atlanta has become Indiana Central. I've
never seen so many damn Indiana fants everywhere.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Wow, you know it's interesting. Belichick in his prime, the
Patriots didn't fumble. Indiana doesn't fumble. They don't drop passes.
How do you explain that? I mean, your teams were
well coached. It's it's crazy. How do you How do
you not fumble? Is it just something you do every
day in practice and commit to Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I mean I watched you don't fumble because the first
of all, the players have bought into the culture of
the program. Watch the tailbacks anytime, or receiver anytime they're
going through traffic. You see the right hand come right
over the ball every not partial all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Calling about Indiana, We've been covering a lot of big
new kickoff when they beat Nebraska last year, I walked
outside of the green mindself, I gotta watch this because Indiana,
the Indiana I know, never looked or played like this,
and so I'm gonna go watch this close. I don't
know if I, off the top of my head can
think of a mistake they made. I know they got
out talented a couple of times last year and lost
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some games. But I don't see the finer ponents points
of coaching, for example, perimeter blocking on offense, the tailback
picking up, blitz protection. You just talked about the turnovers.
Then on defense, run fits, disengaging blocks and blown coverages.
I'd like to see a videotape or whenever I've seen that.
You don't see that, and that to me, that is players. Obviously,
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coaches get credit players buying in to what these coordinators
in the head coach are teaching.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
It's awesome to watch, so.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There's so much fun listen I would be happy. I'd
be happy if anybody won this Natty. I just I'm
having so much fun this year with college football. I
want to talk about last night. I said this Mario Cristobal.
A team becomes the personality of their coach. Mario is
big and aggressive and physical and a big personality. And
Miami is not the most efficient team draw passes penalties,
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but they play with such ferocity and such confidence they
feel a little bit, a little bit of like a
pro team. And so my concern with Miami Urban is
they let other less talented teams back into games. But
in terms of speed, size, aggressiveness. Like, as a former coach,
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when you watch them, what do you see that you
like and that would concern you.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I think Miami is a problem. And what I mean
by a problem a problem for the other teams that
what's really fun to watch as a former coach is
that it's almost the physical teams are separating themselves right now.
You know, the pass happy the other type of offenses,
the other type of teams are starting to disappear.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
As a matter of fact, they're disappearing.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Teams that control the line of scrimmage, play great defense,
and are tough, tough as hell. They're the ones that
are winning games. And I personally love that. I love
the fact that Miami is just that one play where
the tailback got hit the offensive line in the entire
they got eight to ten yards post contact when you
saw their head coach on the sideline. I mean, I
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love that kind of football. I think I don't think.
I think Miami is a problem. And here's the problem
for the opponents. It's hard to score on Miami. And
now Carson Beck is playing like the Carson Beck that
everybody talked about for the last four years.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
That because he has all the talent.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Now he's taking care of the ball, He's making some
great throws. Miami is a problem for whoever wins this
game tonight, Indiana and Oregon.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Listen. I said this for it was like the SEC
one like thirteen Natties and fifteen or sixteen or something
years and you could see the gap in talent. It
is noticeable. I use that play you talked about, coach,
I said, that play, that run play. I'm sitting with
jmac here and I said, this did not happen four
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years ago to any SEC team. Maybe Vandy Oh, I
said this is now happening to ole Miss. I saw
it happened to LSU. I saw it happened to Alabama. Like,
I'm sorry, but the quality of SEC defenses it's just
not the same urban it doesn't look the same on talent.
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George's is good, but can't I mean, I mean, let's
be honest, Trinidad Chambliss did whatever he wanted to in
the last ten minutes of that game. You're seeing it,
I'm seeing I think Nick Saban figured it out, got
out of there. When you see it, it doesn't look
like it looked three years ago, does it? No?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
And I'm trying to find out why. I you know,
I've asked this, and I talked to a coach. I'm
not going to say his name because it's not Fardalm,
who played an SEC team recently. And when ever you're
playing that SEC team, all you do is you study
the SEC because you're playing your Every film you watch
is the previous ten games against SEC opponents. And he
made a comment to me exactly what you said. It's
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not the same. You don't have that same fear factor.
When you said the words SEC. The first thing you
thought of was the defensive front seven. How in the
heck are we going to block these guys? And now
you're seeing teams get I mean Indiana hammer in, Alabama,
Illinois hammeron was a Tennessee uh you know, and then
whop Vanderbilt another Big Ten team.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yet I think I b Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Hammered Vanderbilt, and that tells you whatever happens happened.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
I wish I had an explanation.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I've been thinking about this same for the last few
weeks because I lived in both. I lived in the
SEC where you got sick on Sundays watch and who
you're going to play because how you going.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
To block them?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
And then our coached early in the Big Ten and
you didn't feel that way at all because quite honestly,
wasn't hard.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's hard now, yeah, it's it's crazy. The uh so
a story happened this week and it just I didn't
like it. It's been resolved where Washington's quarterback Demon Williams
signed and said I'm going to enter the portal and
then his agent dropped it and said, We're not. And
my thing is urban. I give my kids occasional cake.
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They don't get it for breakfast. You got to have
rules and guidelines. If you're a company, a parent, a relationship,
there's guidelines for everything. That really bothered me that you
could sign a contract. Hell, if you sign a contract
in pro football, you can't get out of it. What
did coaches make of that? Now, apparently he's recommitted to Washington,
but that that felt like a tipping point moment. How
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did it land for you?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
That's the worst thing I've heard in the last ten
years of the game. And uh, when I started reading
up on it, I know the AD very well. I've
not reached out yet. At some point I will patch
on it. It was sickening to me that and I
don't know that, you know, I don't know de Bunk
Williams junior at all, but I know what I read
and I don't know how. And I saw coach Fish's statement,
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the AD statement, how we're going to try to heal
the locker room, which I guess I'm so old school.
I don't know how you heal that. You just turned
your back on a locker room. So I hope it does.
But it's the most disturbing thing I've heard. And I
also heard this from colleagues. It's like I'm the punching
bag Colin. I get about ten calls a week from
former colleagues of mine, and all they do is screaming
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yell at me about can you believe this is happening?
Then they're telling me stories, and something's got to happen.
There's got to be some kind of regulation and for
the good of the game and good of these players.
And yet the product on the field collins unbelievable. But
when I heard that, that's I have a hard time
getting over what I read.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh, I want to go back one one final thing,
so so I'll give you my before we get to it.
That when you and I get on the road to drive,
there's a speed limit, but you and I know there's
nuance and if it's fifty five and urban, you go
fifty eight, you're not getting a ticket. You also know
that judges in our judicial system it can be arbitrary.
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If you come in with a smart alec grin in
your face and you're a wise acre and there was
a real serious crime, the judge can give you a
longer sentence because he didn't like you. You didn't think.
So life is nuanced and gray. It's not all black
and White. I would not call a pass interference on
Miami in the end zone. You don't call him on
Hail Mary's in the NFL. In the NBA finals, you
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don't want to championship decided at the free throw line.
You got a really foul a player, So I didn't
think it should be pass interference. We can show the
play again. I thought if it was in the second quarter,
you may get that call. I don't think you get
that in the final throw. Did it bother you? Oh?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
It does bother me because of if it's a foul,
it's a foul. But I don't think you make that call.
You know, it has to be so flagrant that you
you you know you make that call. But as we're
watching it here, you know I dog gun it put
his left hands all over him calling. Oh yeah, I know,
dog gun it. You put me on the spot. You
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hate to have the official have a hand in the
final play. But for the record, but it is past interference.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think you get the call. Probably in the second
quarter they would give you that call.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
The left hand's the only thing that bothers me right there.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well, yeah, it bothers everybody, I think except Miami. Yeah,
I mean it's again, I know everybody disagrees with me.
They're like that that's past interviewing. Yeah, I know it is.
And I also know that Michael Jordan pushed off in
the NBA Finals. I know he pushed off, you get
it in the second quarter. My take is if he
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was grabbing the face mask or or you have to
call it, like right there, you're like, oh, that's that's probably.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Oh gosh calling, So you're saying, no, don't call it.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I I've watched Hail Mary's in the NFL. All they're
doing is banging into each other and boxing each other out,
and it's like, we're not we're not. I feel like
when you grab the face mask, if you grab it
so you'd ruin the vision, but you can. I mean
Belichick was great at this. You know, Belichick, depending on
the color of the jerseys, would have his guys who
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are like white gloves or darker gloves, because his takeaway
is you get to the corners of end zones where
that's not great. You know, they can't necessarily, officials don't
have the greatest view. You would like a white glove
and a white jersey you're grabbing and pushing it. There's
there's a lot of manipulation going on in the secondary.
I mean you see these targeting calls. I don't like
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those targeting calls at all. I didn't think that Miami
kids should have been thrown out, but I think at
that time in the game, you do probably get thrown out.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
All right, I'm fighting you call and throw the flag, man,
that's p I look at that, all right, give people
something to talk about. Throw the damn flag. I didn't
feel it that way last night because I didn't watching
it fifteen times in a row.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
All Right, Herb, it's great seeing you. Great scenior calling.
Uh yeah, Like listen, oh, miss fans they're like urban,
They're like, ah, god on that is. I'm not saying
it's no interference. I'm saying I wouldn't call it then.
It's all I ever noticed this in the morning during
rush hour traffic, nobody's getting a speeding ticket at two
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in the afternoon in your town, when nobody's on the freeway,
you give a speeding ticket for the same speed, You're
not gonna jam up all the traffic in morning traffic.
Everybody's going to work for a guy, even if you're
going fifteen miles. You're not screwing up Atlanta traffic, right,
But at two in the afternoon, if somebody's doing that,
then as a cop you pull him over. You say, bro,
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can't bob and weave inside now side of car.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Can you imagine the outrage if they had thrown a
flag and Ole Miss scored on the next play, that
would have been more controversial than Miami Ohio State what
twenty some odd years ago? Remember the pass interference? You know,
you just you can't throw the flag. I mean if
he blatantly tackled him, he.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Was just holding him. That was going on, That's going
on everywhere. Come on, yeah, I think it's I think
it's I did, like.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Irban app fine, after fifteen views, I changed my mind.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh it was just hiliriously fun. I'll say this. I
thought Miami was the best team. I thought they should
have won convincingly, but the game ended up at the
end kind of looking like old Miss games where it's
just Trinidad and Chandler's out there slinging it wit.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Is you think he could be a pro or is he.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Just a really draft him like fifth six? Or I
would draft him in the fifth round if he was available,
I just want him on my roster. I think he's
a great kid. I like his spirit, I like his movement.
I think he has a I don't think he has
a I think he has a good enough arm. I
just think that kid i'd like in my locker room.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Could he be like your number two quarterback? Like a
if I lawler Malik Willis back up.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
If I said to you, Tyrod Taylor with way better mobility,
like you're getting a grown up. And every time you
listen to the kid, he's a grown up. He's a
team guy. He's a wonderful guy. I think he plays
on Sunday and Oh, by the.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Way, he carried a fairist state to a national championship
and then goes to Ole Miss and nearly takes them.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
To the national chanp Sometimes you can't overthink the room
when you watch the ball come out of his hands.
When you watch it, it's got a lot of it's
got some juice, makes place and makes a bunch of players.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
That sounds goofy, but like.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That also, hind there's value in this. He seems like
a great kid. I like his story. Yeah, he had
to endure fairest state, I mean farrest state, Like in Michigan.
You go to Michigan or Michigan State, or Central Michigan
or Western Michigan, and when you run out of options
you go to you go there.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Nobody wanted this guy coming out of high school.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That just seems to me when I watch him, the
mobility is obvious. The ball seems to come out like fast.
There's a real energy to his ball, and so I
draft him. Yes, it's the Herd.
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Speaker 1 (23:52):
All sorts of stuff Today j Max got his picks.
He's been pretty hot this year. Not me hot, but
the pretty hot with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Turn on the news, this is the headline news.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
How long have I been on the show now, three years?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Maybe I don't think we've ever talked about the Jacksonville
Jaguars as much. That's how much they've turned it around.
Liam Cohen, Trevor Lawrence. I mean we're at the point
now where Tom Brady is talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Here on the show, Tom's talked about Cohen's influence on
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Liam's done a great job even when he was at
Tampa last year. Or he has a couple opportunities to,
you know, really kind of take the skill sets that
he's learned from other coaches that he's been around and
then morph them into a system where they have a
lot of good skill players. And Trevor is you know,
a coach has got to get the players a lot
of layups. Good OC's get their quarterbacks layups. You don't
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have to thread the need on every single throw. You
got guys that are wide open. Great, there's a big
margin of there on a big portion of the passes.
That's the goal of an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
That's what he's done. He's created clarity and an ease,
and Trevor Lawrence has delivered on that. It's you can't
make every throw difficult. You got to have We talked
about this with Mahomes when he came into the league.
He'd give you three great plays like MJ a game,
but mostly it was him hitting nine yard drags and
sideline stuff and bubble screens and getting all those down.
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Herbert's like that. Herbert doesn't miss the layouts. You can
ask your quarterback about four to five times to make
a great throw, and those, if you have the right protection,
you can make those. Can't ask him to make twelve
of those.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
So two questions.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Number one, the fact that Travis Hunter, you know, he
had an okay rookie year, I mean, can we even
call it okay?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But the fact that he got hurt.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
They add Jacobe Myers and the offense took off like
a rocket ship.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Does that say anything to you about Well.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Jacoby Myers is a pro. He can walk into any
locker room and he knows he knows the playbook in
two weeks. He can't ask rookies to do that, right,
so I think it added a big time grown up
Jacoby Myers. It's remarkable. He was in New England. He
was their best receiver. They let him go. He goes
to the Raiders. He's their best receiver. They let him go. Yeah,
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and by the way, what's the Raider offense after they
let him go? What was the Patriots offense after they
let him go? Like, I don't know why this guy
keeps bouncing around the league. Everywhere he goes he's an asset. Yeah,
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
The other aspect, So the defensive coordinator of the Jags,
Anthony Campanil, I know he doesn't get a lot of pub.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
So I covered high school sports in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
This guy was a legend, ended up going to Rutgers,
and he is really doing some.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Things with this Jags defense.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I hop people aren't talking about it, but I'm gonna
go ahead and guess. If Josh Allen is shut down
and the Bills get held to like thirteen fourteen, I
think this guy's going to get some interviews for head
coaching Johnson.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And he was a high school coach in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He was a high school player, then a coach and
then I mean this guy has done some things to
his defense. They play a lot of zone and the
Bills don't have a lot of zone beaters. They got
like Kean Coleman Palmer from the Chargers. There's just street line.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Guys, I'm starting to hear some could the Jags blow
them out and at that point Den McDermott's probably took.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
We've discussed this. The line does not make sense.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Something's out, something's going on this.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Buffalo and Josh Allen had been as dominating the last
six weeks, and this game was in Buffalo, they would
be like a seven to nine point favorite favorite. Jacksonville
isn't even a favorite, and they've been playing like this.
It's like, guys, the Helmets aren't playing the people.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Remember when the Chiefs played.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The Jags on Monday Night Football and then Devin Lloyd
had like the ninety nine yard pick six.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
A lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Like, oh, well, you know that flipped the game and
Chiefs should have won that. I thought the Jags were
the better. We talked about this, like go to the
Denver game. They harder game that was thirty five six,
by the way, the worst like Harball doesn't get beat
like that often playoff game last year when everybody was
hurt in Jacksonville. Just be careful Buffalo in this one.
Next story, let's go to the Dolphins firing up Mike
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McDaniel earlier this week. A lot of people are connecting
him with the Cleveland Browns opening, but a new report
indicates the Lions desperately want him to be the offensive coordinator. Yes,
Dan Campbell took over play calling late in the season
because Morton was not good.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Then they dump Morton recently.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You can make an argument if they land McDaniel, that's
the best coordinator higher because that would fit.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Look at GoF kids in company.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Dan Campbell, hire Mike McDaniel. This is one of those layups.
Go hire Mike McDaniel as your coordinator. Yeah, this is
exactly what he should do, because in Miami he could
never get the line in the quarterback to his loving.
Now he gets golf and a great o line. So
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Mike McDaniel made two of Pro Bowl or made the
playoffs with a bad old line. Now he gets a
great old line potentially, and a veteran quarterback who throws
goff throws a much better deep ball.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And remember Laporta was hurt at the end of the season,
missed a bunch of games.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'll tell you right now, what did Detroit go this
sh you're eight and nine right now, McDaniel goes to
the Lions. That's back to that thirteen five, thirteen four.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
They got a lot of pieces on offense. The defense
leaves some things to be desired. Let me ask, though
McDaniel obviously would fit in the seamlessly, should he aim
for a head coaching job.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
He's not going to get a head coaching job. Cliff
Kingsbury's not a head coach. Not eight jobs, Colin, we
got fight eight head coaches.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You will. I mean you got.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Hardboss Stefanski and Mike McCarthy, all proven head coaches. So
of those eight jobs, you're down to five. Also, Brian
Flores probably has a chance to get one.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think the lawsuit against the league is still pending.
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I just if I go, if I'm McDaniel, I walk
into head coaching interviews. Guys, I got this Dolphins mess
with my GM who got fired and couldn't hit a
draft pick to save his life. I got them to
the playoffs twice with two of.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Who nobody wants. Why isn't Brian Dable being mentioned? Good question, Like,
if you told me tomorrow Brian Dabele gets the Atlanta
Falcons job, I'd be like, Oh, I think they'll win
the division.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere. That's very strange.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, Why why isn't Brian Dabele won a playoff game
with Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Do you think he's would instantly be a candidate for Buffalo?
Remember he was the OC there for Josh Allen.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, maybe, I think that'd be a great show.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I Dable's good. I like Dabe all right.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Final story, Colin drop mock draft one point, Oh, yesterday
got my guy Mendoza up top. Obviously Dante Moore to
my Jets and uh, you know some people obviously unhappy
as mock drafts come out. Wait, we wouldn't take that guy.
I'm heavy on the offensive line. We've seen the issue
in the trenches around the league. Chiefs lose their offensive,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Let me let me look at this, Let me look
at this. So don't he Coutte Moore coming out?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I mean a lot of people do. I got two
quarterbacks in the top ten, that's it. Ty Simpson a
little further down. Baine, by the way, last night was
super quiet. He had I think one pressure in the game,
but he's still elite. The guy that is interesting to
me Carnell Tate from Ohio State. If he goes to
Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin, that's an instant offense. In Washington,
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they don't have an OC right now. What do you
think about Caleb Downs? The Ohio State stud have him
ten to the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Here's the problem with Downs.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
We're seeing a lot of NFL teams utilize safeties in
different ways now around the league. I wonder if Downs
moves up higher into the top tens.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So I'm gonna name the conference your top fifteen players. Oh,
here we go, Big ten, Big ten, ACC ACC, Big twelve, SEC,
Big ten, Big ten, Big twelve, Big ten, Big ten,
ACC SEC Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Not a lot of SEC in there.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And I think Cayden Green feels like a bit of
a reach. Not that it's a bad by you, but
I'm saying he could easily not go in this space.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So wasn't there a year where there were like ten
SEC guys in.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
The person when you I noticed it this year watching
George's defense. I was just like, oh, you can move
the ball in Georgia. You could not move the ball
in Georgia four years ago. Nobody could.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Jeremiah Love a little low to Baltimore. I think there's
a soft reset with the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Let me tell you something. If the Giants get Spencer
Fano out of Utah, you just found a ten year
right tackle between and also also see I would do this.
I'm not a big fan of drafting wide receivers high.
What the you bring Fano in it? Right tackle? And
then if Andrew Thomas, who has a history getting banged up,
is out, you move Fano over. The Giants have to
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draft a tackle. Second pick should be a tight end.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Well, they got theo Johnson and Bellinger are serviceable, you know,
neighbors the wide receiver. This offense, Daniel Jeremiah convinced me
of this. This offense is about to take off with
Jackson dark. They've got guys when they're healthy next year.
The defense leaves a little something.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
To be desired.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's fun.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I need wide receivers up there. That was the biggest art.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
As you drop this, where is your mock draft at
on Instagram on ig.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
You don't follow me there yet, still do you?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't go to an Instagram along are You're more
of a TikTok guy.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Now. I like TikTok, I go, I go, I read
books occasionally, occasionally I'll go on X because I put
my podcast on there.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You need to just pull the pin on a grenade,
throw it on X and then leave for five hours.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's the strategy Joe roganstyle. Yeah, just put in a
hot take and then leave and let everyone, let all
the fish just argue over it and.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Just that's quite a strategy.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
J Mack with a news.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Herd weekdays and noon Easter nine am Pacific on
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Speaker 3 (33:52):
Wild Card Weekend has two huge games on Fox. Tomorrow,
MVP front runner Matthew Stafford leads the Rams again, It's
Bryce Young and the Panthers. Then on Sunday, Jalen Hurts
and the defending champion Eagles take on Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
It's wild Card Weekend powered by Verizon Tomorrow and Sunday
on Bucks.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
When you watch Indiana and Oregon play tonight, you're going
to see the two best college quarterbacks that both would
be if they came out, it'd be one and two
in the draft. Put them in any order you want.
I like Mendos a little bit more, but they're both
really good, good kids, good good core quarterbacks. Both can
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move more and moves a little better. But when you
watch Indiana, really good coaching just jumps off the TV.
They just don't make any mistakes. They haven't had an
Aaron snap all year, not one. Fewest drop passes, best
in the red zone, they haven't had a fumble since
the eighteenth play of the season. It's just now. Some
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of it is the age of their team. They're just
an older, more mature team. They really push the ball
down the field. They go, they throw the ball deep
down the field. So Mendoz is a real key here.
Signette's done a remarkable job. But they were good last year,
but they weren't special. Here's Urban on what he sees
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with their coaching.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You don't fumble because the first of all, the players
have bought into the culture of the program. Watch the
tailbacks anytime, or receiver anytime they're going through traffic. You
see the right hand come right over the ball, not
partial all the time. I don't know if I, off
the top of my head can think of a mistake
they made.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, they just don't. I like Indiana. I think it's
pretty close tonight. All right, let's put up the weekend's
playoff matchups. There is one game we all sort of
agree with. Rams probably beat the Panthers. You know, they
played before Matt Stafford did not play particularly well, So
(36:00):
that game on Fox, I think the Rams win. Again.
A lot of Ram wins are They're an interesting team.
They'll have these three series stretches where they stall and
they're three and out. And I don't love their special teams.
I mean, if they gave up a kickoff for a
touchdown and missed two field goals and they ended up
winning by just a touchdown, but dominated, I mean it
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could if it looks a little bit like Miami Ole
miss last night, Like how is this game close? I
could see that, But I still think they would win.
Green Bay and the Bears. Everybody's all over the map
on that one. You know, it's the third time they've played.
Tom Brady talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
This is what you love about it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
These two teams know each other so well.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Guys are coming out of you know, some unherlded receivers
from the Bears have made some plays late in these games.
So it is a super tight matchup for this game.
This is one of the most intriguing games of the weekend.
I can't wait to see how both teams played. And look,
they know each other so well. So now it really
does come down to the fundamentals.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, it comes down to turnovers. So go back to
the board again looking at the games. So the weekend
starts with a dominating team, heavily favored. Then it goes
into teams playing for the third time. Then it goes
into Sunday early, a wild potential Bills Jaguars game. The
Bills have the best player, the Jags have the hottest team.
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Then you go into kind of an iconic Niners at
the Eagles, where it's really about health in the forty
nine Ers, if they're healthy, they can beat anybody. Chargers Patriots,
where you have two quarterbacks who kind of want Herbert
feels like the East Coast version, you know, Drake May
and vice versa. And then Monday you've got a Texans
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team that doesn't score much but as the best defense
against the Steelers and forty two year old Aaron Rodgers.
So what I like about the weekend? You're getting in
a variety of games. You're getting first playoff game. Guy,
you're getting wonky, weird Jaguar franchise with a chance to
upend the Buffalo Bills franchise with a win. Jmack one
(38:14):
hour from now has his picks. If I took the Rams,
let's just say, I don't give away your picks. But
if I said to you, there's a crazy headline after
the weekend, Like, there's a headline, You're like, because you
know what's going to happen wild Card weekend. There's going
to be a weird, weird moment.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Jaguars thirty one to ten, Bills fire their coach, and
the headlines are, boy, all the highest paid quarterbacks, the
superstar quarterbacks are out, either missed the playoffs or they
lose in the first round. What do we do about
paying franchise quarterbacks and the money? This is because Lamar,
Remember he's not happy with his deal.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
He wants a new one.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
He's got a seventy four million cap hit next year.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I just I don't know if it's sustainable. You look
at that Chiefs roster. I know we got some chiefs
fans of the network, a lot of terrible a top
twenty roster in the league. Look, just don't have dune.
Look at the Bills defense, there's nobody. So if you
look at who's in here, it is and this includes
bo Nix and Sam Darnold next Weeknd's it's either quarterbacks
on rookie deals or quarterbacks with reasonably team friendly deals.
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Sam Darnold pretty team friendly. Brock pretty pretty team friendly.
I'm justin Herberts is viewed as pretty team Friendlyn hurts, yep,
Jalen hurts. Josh Allens is not team friendly. No, it's
Josh Allen makes a lot of money. Aaron Rodgers. By
the way, team friendly deal, it feels like a new era,
And it's weird because in college football there's this new
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era with the NIL. I feel like the NFL is
going through a bit of a sea change right now
with the way teams are built.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I don't it's unsustainable.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Well, Tom Brady was never the highest paid quarterback, never once.
That's a great yeah, never. Tom Brady was never the
highest paid quarterback. So you have to make decisions. Yeah,
I mean, Stafford is the biggest cap hit playing this
weekend after Josh Allen the other.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
One, and listen, you know we love him. If Justin
Herbert loses, he will then fall to zero to three
in the playoffs. Remember Dan Reno or Peyton Manning famously
could not win a playoff game to save his life early.
But I do think if the Chargers lose and Herbert's
not great, Oh Justin Herbert seed is not that good,
can't win a playoff game? That what's for that narrative
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to emerge. I think the Chargers are gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But the fact that Chargers win eleven and six with
the lowest rated offensive line in the league. It's not
like it's good against it's not good in pass protection.
It's thirty two and thirty one. It's no team since
PFF has started ranking a lines has ever won a
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playoff game with an offensive line as bad as the
LA Charger.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
The way, if the Chargers win that game, they will
then go to Denver next.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Think about this yeah, okay, they beat Denver once and
the Remax.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Last week they played all backups and it was nip
and tuck. Denver couldn't score with their start bow Knicks.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Who's watching on TV this weekend? His cap pit is
seven percent of Josh Allen's cap pit. Well, why is
Denver's roster so good? There you go, who's got the Yeah,
I mean Denver's O line, Denver's D line, Denver secondary
you know, all right, Yeah, last hour of the week
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