THE HERD - Hour 2 - Getting the right coach for Josh Allen, the future of the Eagles, Dianna Russini
January 21, 2026 • 41 mins
NFL reporter Dianna Russini joins the show with the latest on the head coaching search across the NFL including who the Bills will pair with QB Josh Allen. She also provides the latest on what the Eagles will do with WR AJ Brown
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here we go, Hour two, We're live. It's the Herd Man.
Is there a storm coming? Hold on Nashville? Wow? Wherever
you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. A lot of NFL time.
I saw this this morning. The Steph Curry, you're seventeen,
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still leads the NBA in Jersey sales. They just don't
know how to turn the page. Warriors aren't even good,
you know. It feels like a problem to me. It's
like the Marvel Universe, where a bunch of years ago
they did endgame and they're like, well that's the end
of it. Aren't they releasing Doomsday? They can't. They can't
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figure out how to turn the page. In the Marvel universe.
The NBA's got too many players. Nobody cares about the
regular seasons. The irrelevant star players don't even want to play
two repetitive, too many three pointers. And I'll tell you
the problem with the NBA, because all the ratings are exploding.
People can say, well, the NBA ratings, they went from
cable to broadcast. Of course the ratings are up. Is
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that when you're a player led league, you're going to
have major dips based on the popularity of your player.
When Michael Jordan left, they lost fifty percent of their ratings.
In the NFL, you don't have big dips because people
love the Packers, not just Jordan love they love the Niners,
not just George Kittle, they love the Eagles, not just
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Jalen Hurts or Lane Johnson. But in the NBA, it's
all about the player. Pander to the player, it's all
about the player. Take care of the player. It's not
about the franchise. And that's why the NBA has these
massive dips in interest is and the NFL doesn't. For
a lot of reasons. You can bet on both. They're
both pretty good on TV. But well, there's a lot
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more NFL games. Then there are a lot more NBA
games than there are NFL. Well, there's double the baseball
regular season games as the NBA games and baseball's ratings
are on fire, and they didn't just go cable to broadcast.
Why Because people love the Dodgers, not just Otani. People
love the Yankees, not just Aaron Judge. They love the Cubs,
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not just the players. The NBA is so player driven
that your ratings and the interest. I mean, if Steph
is still leading in year seventeen in Jersey sales, Tom
Brady's last year, he wasn't anywhere near the top seven
or eight in Jersey sales, and he was the goat.
He was the Jordan of the sport. Number one I
think was Josh Allen. Micah Parsons was way up there,
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and Tom's last year, Mahomes was up there. Burrow I
think was three or four. Because the NFL is not
dependent on you liking the player. It's about the team
and the franchise. Baseball does a good job too. You
love the Cubs. It's great when the Cubs get good players,
but you love the Cubs first. Diana Russini, with that
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is now joining us Live Man. There's a lot going
on the athletic Senior NFL Insider, So there's a bunch
of different stories out there, won by Vick Carucci, who's
been in Buffalo forever, about Sean McDermott telling the owner
and the GM Hey, I don't love the personnel. I mean,
was the firing of Sean McDermott completely unexpected or had
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you heard for five or six or seven weeks? It
was tense? What do we know today?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I don't think ownership was as irritable or frustrated
with it until the end of the season, or at
least towards the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That is when word.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Started to get out, probably week seventeen. It was starting
to get around keep an eye on Buffalo. If they're
one and done, look for McDermott to be out. And
so then obviously when they won, it died down a bit,
and then Saturday night is when the conversation started again.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And at the Athletic we actually already wrote a piece.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That Sean McDermot was getting fired, because at that point
I'd found out that that ownership was really they were
done with it. They were sick of the eight years
with Josh Allen and just not getting.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Over the hump.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And I really truly don't think it was lack of
respect or belief in Sean McDermott. It's just when you
look at it historically, if a coach has not won
within the first ten years of him being.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
A head coach, it's tough. And some of these all
just think a change, something new.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
On top of the fact, you're watching a lot of
these organizations with this new breadth of fresh air. These
new guys come in obviously was seing in Chicago. We
saw on Jacksonville CEE in Boston. You see these guys
come in and change the entire team, and.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I think that's what's tempting.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Will Josh Allen have any say in the next coach, Dana,
He absolutely will.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
They're gonna have, wouldn't you, Right, Like Josh Allen is
the team, and I do think his influence here is
going to be important, and I think his overall comfort
with who this head coach is going to be is
going to be a big factor in this, which is
why I do think they're gonna wind up leaning towards
more offensive minded type coaches because look, they made a
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move because they know the window is going to just get,
you know, tighter and tighter here. Uh, And that's why
they moved on from Sean, so patience is already uh
not something that they have. And they're gonna they're gonna want.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
A coach to come in here. I think they're gonna
lean more towards someone.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Who's done it and get this thing going because they're
gonna want to be in the super Bowl next year.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, what do you make of the reports or suggestions?
What are you hearing about Bill Belichick in Buffalo? Nothing?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Bill doesn't have a market in the NFL, you know,
So I think, look, he has been his people, including
coach Belichick, have been very open with people media, with
people in football. They want to stay in North Carolina,
so I think he obviously has information. You're not doing
that unless you know you don't have a shot. And
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I have yet to have a conversation in this coaching cycle,
even last one of anyone who seriously was considering bringing
Bill in. I didn't mean to come off mean by
the way. That was just more of like the facts,
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, sometimes Bill was me. I mean, it's not the
end of the world.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh Bill's Bill's remain billis. I've had some tough press conferences.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I remember sitting there.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I was young.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
My shirt was soaked. I was so afraid.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I asked him if he ever considered treating Jimmy No,
if you regretted trading Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Garoppolo after that practice.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Remember when Tom jammed his finger helmet like cut his finger.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And that was the question I asked in that pot
was to practice and it was? It was.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It was memorable, it was awful.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I love John Harble. The hardballs are so they get
they love football so much they can't even hide it.
They're like kids, They're like kids. I got to tell
you something. I've been critical of the Giants for a
long time. I think they're good now. I think they
need to right tackle a tight end some secondary help.
Are you surprised? What was the word around the league
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in your sources when Harball immediately jumped on this opportunity.
Did people think it was this good of a job
because John's like, not no hesitation, He wanted that job.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, and a lot of candidates felt the same way
about this Giants roster. This was one of the golden ones,
just based on some of these players and obviously the
history the ownership. Look you, they haven't won in a
while we know it hasn't been great with Joe Shane
at the Helm, but ownership has always been really fair
to their head coaches, and while they're involved, they're not
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hands on telling you what to do. They're just gonna
listen and trust you, and that's valuable. It was all
about ownership and quarterback this cycle, and it continues to
be as we have these openings. So John I think
brings accountability. He's going to bring vision, focus and really
an adult in the building. That is what someone there
said to me, Like, that is what they're going to
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get in New York. Yes, we joke that he's a
little bit of a football labberdoodle, but he also knows
what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And I think the New York Giants are very excited
to hand him the keys.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, I would be excited. I think they're close. Okay,
the Steelers we joked earlier like they feel like, you know,
guys married for thirty five years, then all of a
sudden he's single and he doesn't know. He thinks apps
are like appetizers at Chile's. He doesn't know what dating
apps are. They don't look for coaches, they don't know
what they're doing. They don't do this ever, and so
all of a sudden, the Giants to know how to
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do it. Atlanta knows how to do it. Like some
of these organizations, they're pretty good at the let's go,
let's get a coaching search. Pittsburgh doesn't do it. I'm
hearing Mike McCay and I'm thinking, well, he's a Pittsburgh guy.
It's an easy one. What are the Steelers at.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I made a joke during the Giants hardball situation. Someone
had texted me that the Giants were behind on the contract,
like they weren't getting it done. I'm like, don't they
just have a template ready to go? They do this
all the time, Like how hard could it beat them
to a contract? In New York, you're always doing it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Where Pittsburgh, you know, they're like looking an old files,
like how do you do this again? And look, here's
what I know from that ownership especially, they're going to
go with what they know right and what they're comfortable doing.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
And look what they did with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
They took a young, you know, black defensive coach with
tons of energy and they took a shot on him
and it worked pretty darn well, so yes, I can
see them gravitating towards a guy who's done it before
because it's comfortable. This isn't a fantastic roster. They don't
have a quarterback. This is one of the jobs that
I don't believe a lot of these coaches that are
hungry to get in are are fighting.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Just because they're not. First of all, you got a
filling for Mike Tomin. That's tough, but you're not coming
in here and winning.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I don't necessarily believe that that's the way the
franchise is seeing it. I don't think they think that this.
They're in rebuild, So you got to be able to
have someone to come in here.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
And be able to communicate like, look, we have a
lot of work to do.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Anthony Weaver is the name I want you to watch.
I think he is somebody that both the Baltimore Ravens
and remember Anthony Weaver. He's the defensive coordinator for the
Miami Dolphin. He is a former raven himself. He's a
former coach for the Ravens. John Harbaugh overpassed him to
be the DC. He left Baltimore went to Miami. That's
where he is now. So he is up for the
job in Baltimore, and he's up for the job in Pittsburgh,
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and I think he's got a really good shot of
getting one of these. Buffalo also recently put in for him,
so he's going to be meeting with him as well.
And doesn't it just make a lot of sense if
you're going to go with, Hey, this is what we've
done before, young hungry culture builder player guy. But of
course you know he's going to have to try to
beat up Brian Flores and Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And also these coaches that are playing this weekend. That's
a whole nother layer to this.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm kind of fascinated with the Raiders job because Fernando
Mendoza is a franchise quarterback. How great? I don't nobody's
darn good rock Towers, Ashton Genty. They got to get
their old line fixed. Old Colton Miller I think is
still around a off injury. They got to get the
old line fixed for Mendoza. But their defense is okay,
Brady's on the sideline of the National Championship game, like
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everybody's watching. I don't know if it's a good job.
I know this that when you get a really talented
quarterback and a rookie deal for four or five years,
you can stack the roster and that usually Denver with
bow Nicks, Drake May, New England, justin Herbert Initially, it's
usually a pretty good thing if you get the right coach.
Do we know anything on Vegas?
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
First of all, you got to make sure you hit
and we got to hope that if the readers do
decide to go in that direction, that he turns out
to be the player that you just listed.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You never know, right, So you've got that gamble.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
But look, the.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Raiders are not one of these jobs that I'd put
him in the same category.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I'd put the Steelers above them actually in terms of
guys that want that job.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And I think it has to just do with the
fact that it's been a place to die over the
last few years. You know, it's been hard to have success.
You've got Max Crosby who's disgruntled. What's his future going
to be in Vegas?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
He's the face of that place. If you don't have him,
who do you have in that locker room? Policing and
setting the tone of what you want and the expectations.
So look, I think that they're leaning more towards offensive sided,
offensive minded type coaches. Right, So, Davis Webb is a
name I keep hearing. Obviously, he's the Denver Broncos quarterback coach.
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Are you going to bring in a first time head
coach with a brand new quarterback? You know, that's a
that's a big challenge. But Tom Brady's running the show there.
He is the one having him all the say on
what they're going to do next year, which which I
think could could be a good thing. You know, the
jury's out on whether or.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Not he can pick right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
All right, Agent, there's.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
So many openings, right, we could go we could have
a whole show on just this because there's so much.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I mean, let me throw this out there. And
I thought the Ravens were the best job until Buffalo
opened up. And I still think the raven Steve Bshotti
is great, roster is very very good, O line stable,
Lamar Jackson, who I mean, jesse Mentor feels like the play,
but I'm I'm not hearing about it. What's the Baltimore situation?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, jesse Mentor's with them right now actually, so we'll
see how that pans out. I love to know what
his plan is at OC. That's all that matters, is
all that matters in Baltimore right now. Who is going
to coach Lamar Jackson, Steve Bashott. It was very transparent.
They're all in, right, They're all in because they fired
John Harbaugh and they want to make this work. They
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want to get to the super Bowl and this is
another organization that's looking at it as a window.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Right, we got to get the most out of them.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So while I understand that you're bringing the leader of men,
and that's important that you have the CEO, the plan
for OC has to be there, right, So Cliff Kingsbury
is a name that's out there. I can tell you
I know for a fact that Lamar Jackson and those
receivers would like Cliff Kingsbury to run their offense. They
have shown support, they've been vocal about it. They've been
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part of some of these interviews too. Lamar Jackson's part
of these. He's zooming in. He's in touch with the
decision makers of what he likes, who he's liked, and
so you know, we'll see how this shakes out. But
I think the you know, Anthony Weavers one of those
again that I mentioned a few minutes ago that is
going to be in the running for this job, and
from what I understand, Cliff Kingsbury would be his OC.
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And I think that would be a pretty tremendous fit
when you think about what Cliff Kingsbury did with Kyler Murray.
Now now insert Lamar Jackson, one of the best quarterbacks
in football.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
All right, finally, AJ Brown drama. I've said I would
have moved them at the deadline. I think he's great.
I think Buffalo should be interested. I think there's all
sorts of suitors for him. I think he's I think
he's impossible unless you have big, long, young corners. He's
hard to defend, and I think a lot of these.
I mean Stefan Digs a great example. By year three,
he can wear people out. But Stefan Diggs everywhere he
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goes to the first couple of years productive, everybody likes him.
He's great in the room. AJ Brown for a couple
of years, and Buffalo is interesting to me. I think
he'd have a market. Do you think Philadelphia will move him?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I just saw Digs on Sunday night after the Patriots game.
I mean, it's like he's twenty two years old now,
like he is retressed, he is rejuvening. He's the leader
of that team. Is he's basically Rabel's little soldier. Like
what Rabel tells him to do, he tells the locker room.
It works. It's a good match, right, because there's a
lot of ego there, as you know, and you got
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to feed that and you got to manage it. And
good coaches know how to manage it. And they're all
in on the quarterback there in New England. So now
let's transfer this over to AJ Brown. And it's pretty
obvious he is not happy. He was not happy from
really this going back to last year, right, but it's different.
They won the Super Bowl. That kind of masks sold
the problems. So here we are this year.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I think it's gonna be up to him. I
think the bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Line, Philadelphia is not stupid. They're not gonna waste their time.
They can't go through what they just did again. This
team has to revamp how they approach this season, and
they're not moving on from Jalen Hurts. Right, So you're
picking AJ Brown or you're picking Jalen Hurts. Who you're picking,
You're picking the quarterback. That's just how it works. Plus
the owner loves them so and he also is the
Super Bowl MVP. So I think for aj Brown, I
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could easily see Buffalo showing interest. I could see Kansas
City showing interests. Imagine him with Patrick Mahomes. So we'll
see if they wind up working out a deal to
get them out of Philadelphia. But I'd be surprised to
see him as an Eagle next year.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
All Right, you're crushing. You're just all the time. I
see you with stories and crushing and intel and all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
No, I like it, but I feel like sometimes when
I'm dumping the information, it sounds so robotic and I
don't mean to, but it's just like you're just like
taking all these conversations and all the writing and recording.
You're just like, I gotta get my best up. So yeah, no,
it's it's fun.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
This is awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
This has been the wildest coaching cycle I have ever covered.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
People. Everyone to talk everyone wants.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
To talk to about it right now because there's so
many moving parts. Right, you got Brian Gable up and
Buffalo Tennessee wants him to be the OC. Philly wants
him to be the OC. If he takes one of
these jobs and he doesn't go to Philly, who's the
OC for the Eagles? That should be a good job,
right It doesn't appear to be. So there's there's like
all these like little tentacles to all of this that
I just find really interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Great Cenia as always great. Thanks for having me, all right,
She's awesome. Diana Russini at the Athletic, like the Harrball's
great energy brings it every single time. Man that I'm
telling you. Some some years at Fox we get breaks
like the World Series last year. I mean he's just like,
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how lucky did we get Seahawks Rams? Oh my god?
I mean, could you have picked division rivals? They've played twice?
The games are wild. The redemption story of Darnold and
to some degree of redemption story with Matt Stafford, although
we always knew he was talented, but it was, you know,
twelve years in Detroit getting your you know, helmet beat in.
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So much good stuff out there.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
No, I don't know if you guys saw this. Cody
World Series Champ MVP NLCSMVP just signed one hundred and
sixty two million dollar deal five years with the Yankees.
Where's the outrage?
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
My got Cody Bellinger's just as good a player, if
not better than Kyle Tucker. Well, where's the outrage? There
is none, because you don't think the Yankees are well run.
They don't threaten you. The Dodgers have money and they win.
The Yankees have money. That's why this is just ridiculous. Oh,
Kyle Tucker's signing terrible for baseball if ratings and revenue
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are up and attendance is up, check check check, and
the Cubs Yankees now have signed another pitcher and Cody Bellinger.
Good offseason for the Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers. If the Astros
are healthy, they'll contend for a World Series. Crown Atlanta's
got to stay healthy. They're good. And by the way, Seattle, Cleveland,
Milwaukee all doing very very well. Small markets. I don't
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want to hear about Pittsburgh. They're irrelevant, they're billionaire owners, cheap.
I don't care about him. So but yeah, I said this,
I just ran it on this an hour ago. There's
a big story that that Kyle Tucker Dodgers trade of
that that or that move, that acquisition that sent everybody
over the top. But Cody Bellinger one hundred and sixty
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two million, five years Yankees, that's okay. This guy's an MVP, guys,
an NLCS MVP. He's a World Series champ. He's got
a better resume than Kyle Tucker. Why aren't you bothered
by I think? Am I wrong on this? Because of
deferred payments? I think the Yankees led baseball last year
in payroll and they just signed a great pitcher. Weather's
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and Cody Bellinger. Where's the outrage? This is not a
pro la ran, it's a pro common sense ran. You're
bothered because the Dodgers when they get guys always come
home with the ring. If the Dodgers would have lost
Game seven of the Blue Jays, nobody'd be outraged by
Kyle Tucker or very few. It's that they're winning, not
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just the money. Again, Pool Hols Josh Hamilton in today's
dollars signed fifteen years ago, almost for five hundred and
forty million. Nobody cared why it's the Angels. Soto goes
to the Mets, Nobody cares why it's the Mets. You
just don't like that the Dodger sign him and then
hoist a trophy that's at the heart of it. As
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the kids say, let's keep it one hundred. Jmack of
the News, turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
This is the headline news I heard.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
I want to go to this Rams Seahawks showdown. Very
excited for the rubber match in Seattle this weekend. It's
on Fox, and Matt Stafford talked about the task at
hand with a Super Bowl trip at stake.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
It's a huge challenge to go play in Seattle, we've
done it once this year, and what a hell of
a game that was. And you know, they got such
great players on their team, they really well coached. I'm
sure excited to be in this opportunity and be in
the situation to, you know, go see what we're all about.
Can we go into their play arguably the toughest place
to play in the league, a team that's played really
good football a year, and then find a way to
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win it and uh, you know, continue this journey, because
that's what it's about at this point in the year.
Can we find a way to work together for another week?
And you know, we have the opportunity now, and it's
it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How good is that gonna be? If you put those
two rosters together j Mack and did a Pro Bowl team,
you could have Stafford and Darnold to your quarterbacks. I mean,
just look at the receivers, Pookah JSN, Davonte Adams, go
look at your defensive front. I mean, if you just
took the Rams and Seahawks and said we'll play the league,
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we'll do you do your Pro Bowl, We'll do ours.
I'm telling you right now, you could compete your on
line you'd get like you know, you'd get Gray's Abel,
who's good. Rams have you know a couple of pieces
and the interior that are very good. Your on line
wouldn't be full of pro bowlers, but everything else you
could go toe to toe with almost everything. Take Seattle
secondary Rams receivers, I mean the backs would be Walker
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Kyron Williams. I mean that these rosters are loaded.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
Are you gonna do one of my favorite things where
you ranked the top ten players in the game. Okay,
I don't even know if Sam Donald's top ten in
this game.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
I'm not even joking. It's loaded.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
There's so much talent. Donald's good, but he's o all pro.
You know, he's fine. I don't think he's top ten,
but I'm sure you'll find a way to crowbar in.
Let me let me ask you something con So in
that second meeting Ram Seahawks, did you know that the
Rams did not punch until they were like nine minutes
left in the game. They went up and down the field,
did whatever they wanted, and that's when McVeigh made the
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catastrophic mistake.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Let me dial it back, get a.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
Little conservative milk clock, and then the punt return happens
at all.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Hell breaks loose, you know.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
I tried to break down in quarters, like if they
saw a boxing match, the eight quarters that they faced,
and I think Seattle's only got one of the quarters,
and that would be the fourth quarter of the second meeting.
Otherwise it was it was even or Rams. Yeah, And
it's like.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The coaching, the skill players, the pass rushers, and it
just there's so many good players in this game, and
this is what we should have. Philadelphia's got the players,
they don't have the coaching.
Speaker 10 (24:13):
One of the arguments I heard was the Rams peaked
right around this second meeting. The Seahawks are peaking now
and the Rams are kind of I don't know about
leaking oil.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
They've only covered once in their last five games, and
that was Week eighteen against Caroline.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I gotta tell you, I'm gonna disagree. I think Chicago
peaked at the end of the year. I think that
win in Chicago is way more impressive than people think.
They needed. No turnovers, no penalty, no drop passes, and
they won in overtime. With McVeigh and Stafford, Chicago would
have beaten virtually everybody in football not named the Rams
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and Seahawks. I think right now in the NFC today,
Chicago's the third best team, and I think it goes
Seattle Rams Bears. I think that you look at that
really well, Ben Jamis show you that. I mean, Chicago,
Everybody's just got way out of course, the Rams won
their experience. Chicago was a really good football team they needed.
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The Rams played a perfect game, no pedalies or drop
pathes in freezing weather.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
You could say that, but Colin we both said it
on Monday, like McVeigh might have called his worst game
of the season. Well, they even criticized himself for his
run pass ratio through three quarters before realizing, oh.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (25:28):
You know, I've got an awesome ground game with Kyrien Williams,
and oh, let me dust off Blake Korum. Yeah, maybe
I'm complaining because I bet Blake Corum over props because
it was such a great matchup, and then he doesn't
get carries all the fourth quarter and he can't eclipse
his total. But it was a bizarre game plan. I
don't you know how sometimes you think overthink the room.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I feel like McVeigh might have done that against the Bears.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's the downside to being smart. Smart smart people tend
to overthink stuff.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
All right, let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Colin, Listen, it's the off season almost you like hot takes.
This is about as good as it gets. So obviously
the Ravens have moved on from John Harbaugh. Well, you know,
the Raiders have the number one pick in the draft
in Fernando Mendoza. I feel like we speculated this a
couple weeks back. But there's a report that claims the Raiders,
sick and tired of losing, are looking for a big swing,
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and they may say, hey, we got the number one pick,
do you want it? We want Lamar Jackson, And there
is some shatter about this. Now, Lamar has the brutal
cap hit right, seventy four million, I think it's number
one in the league, and he has two years left
on his deal.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
He's looking for more money.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You'd have to move Max Crosby with that contract. But yeah,
I think I should now that's I don't. First of all,
i'd feel bad for Lamar Jackson. That Raider o line
at the end of last year was a disaster.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Ravens O line ain't any great either.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I mean it was limit bombs are very good center
at LISTA.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Okay, that cancels out Colton Miller, who's an excellent left tackle.
So I think there's a bigger question here. So you know,
maybe we can ask Brady this next time he comes on.
But a lot of front offices they don't want to wait.
Everybody's impatient in society, whether it's movies, TV, sports.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But nobody has any patience.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Okay, Mendoza's not going to be a star colin instant, Jason,
It's going.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
To take a couple zero of the top fifteen quarterbacks
paid quarterbacks in the leader in the playoffs. Yeah. The
way to win super Bowls mostly is got a really
really super talented guy on a rookie deal. More, get
Darnold on a team friendly deal. So Lamar Jackson's too expensive,
so the Raiders would get him and have to give
(27:44):
up stuff to get him, and they wouldn't have the
draft capital to surround him with really good young free players.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
One hundred percent agree, I'm with you.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
My question is are the Raiders going to be disciplined
or are they going to say we've.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Been so bad, We've been so awful. We're in the
seller in this division.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
He is a very disciplined Hue and Tom has influence.
So my guess is listen to Brady. If he has influence,
his his career can be defined by discipline. You have
to be disciplined to make this work. Bringing in a
guy that's worth a zillion dollars and giving up draft capital.
If you if you, it'd be one thing if I
could bring in Lamar like in a trade and and
(28:21):
and some way, you know, not have to give up
two ones of three of four. But if you bring
him in, you can't now pay Max Crosby, and now
I have to replace Max Crosby. Well I need multiple
draft picks. If that doesn't work, I agree, I totally agree.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
Like people are saying, oh, the Jets should go after
Lamar or Kyler Murray, Like, no, I'm starting from scratch.
But again, we're in an impatient society. This owners, these owners, Colin,
they want to win. Now, Okay, we're seeing a lot
ten coaches got fired.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
That's insane. So I would I would.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
I would not be shocked if the Raiders DIDs on
the goofy here, but I'm with you, I ain't trading
that number one pick. Final stories to the NBA colin
where last night Jonathan Kuminga made a surprise appearance, but
only because Jimmy Butler's hurting out for the season.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Obviously, Kaminga and Kurage do not get along. He's really
in the doghouse.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
And remember Kuminga requested a trade as recently as last week.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
How about this one, Colin. This is how ugly it
is for Golden State.
Speaker 10 (29:19):
Before last night's game, GM Mike Dunlevy addressed this trade
request that Jonathan Cominga made.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
As far as the demand, I'm aware of that. I
think when you you know, in terms of demands, when
you make a demand, there needs to be demand on
the market. So we'll see where that unfolds. But heard
always with these guys, I tell him I'm willing to
work with them. You know, want to help people out,
whether that's JK or any player on a roster. So
(29:52):
we're good with you know, that's his wishes, trying to
figure that out, but we got to do it's best
for organization.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I'm getting old. I watched him play high school. His
dad was coach of the Blazers. He was a star
basketball player. I think at Jesuit High School. Great is that?
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Is that the best way to be politically correct and
be like nobody.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I don't get the Kaminga A demand.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Kaminga could score twenty a game, I wouldn't remember any
of the baskets. He's a long athletic guy. Long history
in the NBA of guys who can fill get you
buckets but don't necessarily win you games or matter. I've
covered them before. Kminga is a really long athletic guy.
But I don't remember you know, do you remember his baskets.
I've covered guys where you remember. It feels like a
(30:37):
lot of their big baskets, like like you know him,
I know him. You can remember Jordan's big shots or
Kobe's big shots. You can remember the Lebron's great moments.
Kaminga is just a really long athlete. And and again,
if you think you're gonna build around Kaminga, I mean
if they I don't know. I've just my takes always
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been half after four years in the league with a
really smart coach and a smart superstar, I mean Draymon,
Kerr and Curry are hoping he would be a star.
They're not rooting against him. They were like Jordan Poole.
It didn't work. They didn't like him. If kerk Curry
and Draymond, these are high functioning NBA guys. They wish
(31:20):
Kuminga scored eighteen a game and the points mattered. He'll
score twenty four and they won't feel like they mattered.
So you know, I don't want to beat up on players.
But if Kerr can't figure it out, he's pretty good.
If Curry can't figure it out, if dramon Draymond has
loved a lot of his teammates, He's not a guy
that needs the ball in his hands. They want this
kaminga thing to work out, and it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Well, he's twenty three years old. He just turned twenty three.
We got it. We got to at least give him
a chance.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, field goal percentage three years in a row
gone down.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
He doesn't fit with the Warriors, So why would they
sign him?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Why did they keep eight points better a game when
he doesn't play?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
But why did they keep him?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Why didn't they move because there's no market for him?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I mean, you telling me you can't get anything.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
For you can't get, yeah, anything, you don't want to
give him away. You put so much time into him,
there's no market for him.
Speaker 10 (32:09):
It's weird how badly they bungled James Wiseman. Remember he
went second overall. I don't even know if he's in
the league.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It was a terrible draft. Don't blame him. It was
a terrible draft and they were in their championship window.
He was too young, he didn't have enough games. I mean,
if you enter the Warriors with Draymond and Stephan Kerr,
they're asking a lot of you, like Wiseman just he
didn't even be barely played five seven. What are you
play in college? He played it, almost played no games.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
Man, This was like the Golden era Warriors with k
versus Lebron.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
It's over. It stinks for the league. Man, I missed
these Warriors.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
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Speaker 1 (32:48):
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Speaker 1 (33:22):
Got the under on that one? Or what? You're pretty good?
Speaker 10 (33:25):
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day is still young. No atmospheric river coming out west,
So I got some time.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
If you're talented and you have the ride attitude, even
if your current circumstances stink, you will find your kingmaker.
Sam Darnold spent a lot of years in New York
and Carolina, and then he caught Kyle Shanahan and Kevin
O'Connell's high. What did Andy Doframe say he found freedom
(33:56):
after five hundred yards of you know what? Yeah, he
went through that same kind of tunnel. Sam Darnold's a
good guy, never played the victim, kept improving, got along
with teammates, respectful the coaches. Same with Matt Stafford. Do
you know if Matt Stafford gets to the Super Bowl,
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he will have more playoff wins than the Detroit Lions franchise. Ever,
and Donald, with last Saturday's win, has more playoff wins
than the Jets in the last what fifteen years. So
quarterbacks a unique position. Stoicism matters, don't get too high,
don't get too low. And I would say Stafford stoic,
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Donald Stowick both this year combined seven and one after losses.
They just don't get high, they just don't get low.
And one of the things I love about football, it
builds character. Practice is hard. You're playing hurt by week three,
you're playing in terrible weather, and you don't think of
quarterback as like a physical position. But Justin Herbert was
(35:07):
hit one hundred and twenty nine times this year. And
I looked this morning at Matt Stafford's career injuries, knee injuries,
multiple shoulder injuries, multiple hand injuries, hernia, discs, back issues,
and concussions, and that's what we know about. But it's
also a mental game because only two people have to
show up to the podium winner lose every week. Head coach, quarterback.
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That's it. Edge rusher, receiver can hide. So you've got
to be the guy, and you got to be stoic,
and you can't start fires and you can't complain. Stoicism
is a real gift. And I mean, I think when
I look at Stafford, he was thirteen years I mean
Aaron Rodgers got mad, he got mad at eye roll,
(35:52):
Mike McCarthy and Green Bay after a bad series. Stafford
had thirteen years of dealing with second tier stop, head down,
self improvement. Be the best teammate you can be. You'll
find your king maker. He found McVay and it's the
same thing with Donald. So I mean, I look at
(36:14):
these two. One took twelve years in Detroit, one five
five and a half years Carolina, and it's just impossible
to not root for Donald and Stafford. For me, here
was Sean McVay on facing once again the Seahawks defense
third time this year.
Speaker 11 (36:31):
I give Mike and their coaching staff and John Schneider.
You know, they have vision for players that are these
jokers that allow you to basically be able to be
stout enough against the run but still really good in coverage,
you know, where a lot of the explosives come up.
They've got a vision for guys and they can be
stout against the run versus what they would say is
(36:52):
typically most people would just look at it and say
it's a lighter grouping.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, I mean, they just they don't miss on draft picks.
A lot of what Seattle does is because they have
a plan. A lot of what the Rams do is
because they have a plan. You're not just drafting players,
you're you know, you're drafting employees that fit into your culture.
That's why it's so important when you hire McVeigh and
Mike McDonald very similar people, that you got to build
a culture. Oh, it's about building the roster. There's a
(37:17):
reason so many teams miss on draft picks. It's not
that the players aren't any good. They often leave and
go other places and fit you got. You got to
hire a CEO who can build a culture, and then
you you're drafting employees to fit into your culture. That's
what Vrabel gets in New England. They got like five
rookies making an impact in New England. If you gave
them the wrong coach, those five rookies wouldn't make that impact.
(37:41):
I mean, it was not a very good draft last
year by left tackle standards, will Will Campbell was okay
by great like this year has I would imagine that
the two of the top left tackles this year are
like really high end prospects. Will campbell Is arms are
a little short for left tackle. He's good, but it
was not a very good draft last year, one of
(38:02):
the weaker I can remember. And yet the Patriots have
five guys, five rookies who actually are making an impact.
Why you're not just drafting players. You build a culture.
You draft employees who fit into your culture. That's why
so many good employees out there struggle at a company,
They go to a new company and they crush. Right.
(38:23):
We always want to blame the employee. You want to
blame the draft pick. I think if you put Keon
Coleman in the Rams, he would have been better as
a rookie than he was with the Bills. Or you
put it with Kyle Shanahan. Right, there's a reason that
Brock Purty, seventh rounder is a star in San Francisco
and Juwan Jennings was he a six or a seventh
rounder is a star in San Francisco. Why would that be?
(38:48):
It's the culture. We did this the other day with
the Rams. The Rams have a left tackle, undrafted, Nate Lanman,
inside linebacker, undrafted got him to Atlanta. The Rams have
more that are highly productive star players in the third, fourth, fifth,
sixth round in any other team in the league. Why,
Because you're not just drafting players, you have a culture.
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You're drafting employees who fit into it. And so when
I when I watch these two, I see like smart
head coaches, really good gms that are really good at
drafting employees who fit perfectly into their plan. And we
did that graphic the other day with the Rams. It's insane.
How many really good undrafted left tackles have we ever had?
(39:33):
Not many? I mean, Pooka Nakua could be Offensive Player
of the Year category. Fifth rounder, Kyron Williams, fifth rounder,
they're tight ends. They got third, fourth, fifth round guys.
By the way, I had Diana Russini on top of
the last hour this hour, and we were asking her
about you know, Buffalo right now, there's a rumor that
(39:54):
Bill Belichick could get it. I don't buy it. I
think Brian Dable to me, been there great. I think
Josh Allen would choose him probably if he could. Here's
Diane on on the decision why they moved off Sean mcdermoy.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Look, they made a move because they know the window
is going to just get you know, tighter and tighter here,
and that's why they moved on from Sean. So patience
is already uh not something that they have, and they're
gonna they're gonna want a coach.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
To come in here.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I think they're gonna lean more towardson who's done it
and get this thing going because they're gonna want to
be in the Super Bowl next year.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
So Harbaugh's off the market, Jeff Hafley's off the market,
Stefanski's off the market. Who else? Who else am I missing?
We got three guys off the market. Salah Robert Sala Tennessee.
He's off the market. And also remember this, so are
many of the best assistants. That's why hiring quickly matters.
(40:52):
There's only a finite number of great coordinators on the market,
so you want to be proven, you want to take
your time. But the Giants and the Falcons they got
a head start and everybody and then all it takes
is getting involved very quickly. I mean, that's why the
Giants didn't waste any time. They've done this several times.
(41:12):
You start waiting, you become the fifth sixth seventh team.
I mean, somebody said that the Steelers are waiting for
Chris Shula. Okay. Oh, by the way, Mike McDaniel, this
is this official Chargers. It's official now, Yeah, Mike McDaniel, Justin, Herbert,
Lad mcconkee, Jim Harbaugh sounds like an AFC West champion. Mean,
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Here we go, Hour two, We're live. It's the Herd Man.
Is there a storm coming? Hold on Nashville? Wow? Wherever
you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. A lot of NFL time.
I saw this this morning. The Steph Curry, you're seventeen,
(00:47):
still leads the NBA in Jersey sales. They just don't
know how to turn the page. Warriors aren't even good,
you know. It feels like a problem to me. It's
like the Marvel Universe, where a bunch of years ago
they did endgame and they're like, well that's the end
of it. Aren't they releasing Doomsday? They can't. They can't
(01:08):
figure out how to turn the page. In the Marvel universe.
The NBA's got too many players. Nobody cares about the
regular seasons. The irrelevant star players don't even want to play
two repetitive, too many three pointers. And I'll tell you
the problem with the NBA, because all the ratings are exploding.
People can say, well, the NBA ratings, they went from
cable to broadcast. Of course the ratings are up. Is
(01:28):
that when you're a player led league, you're going to
have major dips based on the popularity of your player.
When Michael Jordan left, they lost fifty percent of their ratings.
In the NFL, you don't have big dips because people
love the Packers, not just Jordan love they love the Niners,
not just George Kittle, they love the Eagles, not just
(01:50):
Jalen Hurts or Lane Johnson. But in the NBA, it's
all about the player. Pander to the player, it's all
about the player. Take care of the player. It's not
about the franchise. And that's why the NBA has these
massive dips in interest is and the NFL doesn't. For
a lot of reasons. You can bet on both. They're
both pretty good on TV. But well, there's a lot
(02:11):
more NFL games. Then there are a lot more NBA
games than there are NFL. Well, there's double the baseball
regular season games as the NBA games and baseball's ratings
are on fire, and they didn't just go cable to broadcast.
Why Because people love the Dodgers, not just Otani. People
love the Yankees, not just Aaron Judge. They love the Cubs,
(02:33):
not just the players. The NBA is so player driven
that your ratings and the interest. I mean, if Steph
is still leading in year seventeen in Jersey sales, Tom
Brady's last year, he wasn't anywhere near the top seven
or eight in Jersey sales, and he was the goat.
He was the Jordan of the sport. Number one I
think was Josh Allen. Micah Parsons was way up there,
(02:56):
and Tom's last year, Mahomes was up there. Burrow I
think was three or four. Because the NFL is not
dependent on you liking the player. It's about the team
and the franchise. Baseball does a good job too. You
love the Cubs. It's great when the Cubs get good players,
but you love the Cubs first. Diana Russini, with that
(03:17):
is now joining us Live Man. There's a lot going
on the athletic Senior NFL Insider, So there's a bunch
of different stories out there, won by Vick Carucci, who's
been in Buffalo forever, about Sean McDermott telling the owner
and the GM Hey, I don't love the personnel. I mean,
was the firing of Sean McDermott completely unexpected or had
(03:39):
you heard for five or six or seven weeks? It
was tense? What do we know today?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I don't think ownership was as irritable or frustrated
with it until the end of the season, or at
least towards the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That is when word.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Started to get out, probably week seventeen. It was starting
to get around keep an eye on Buffalo. If they're
one and done, look for McDermott to be out. And
so then obviously when they won, it died down a bit,
and then Saturday night is when the conversation started again.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And at the Athletic we actually already wrote a piece.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That Sean McDermot was getting fired, because at that point
I'd found out that that ownership was really they were
done with it. They were sick of the eight years
with Josh Allen and just not getting.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Over the hump.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And I really truly don't think it was lack of
respect or belief in Sean McDermott. It's just when you
look at it historically, if a coach has not won
within the first ten years of him being.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
A head coach, it's tough. And some of these all
just think a change, something new.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
On top of the fact, you're watching a lot of
these organizations with this new breadth of fresh air. These
new guys come in obviously was seing in Chicago. We
saw on Jacksonville CEE in Boston. You see these guys
come in and change the entire team, and.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I think that's what's tempting.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Will Josh Allen have any say in the next coach, Dana,
He absolutely will.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
They're gonna have, wouldn't you, Right, Like Josh Allen is
the team, and I do think his influence here is
going to be important, and I think his overall comfort
with who this head coach is going to be is
going to be a big factor in this, which is
why I do think they're gonna wind up leaning towards
more offensive minded type coaches because look, they made a
(05:27):
move because they know the window is going to just get,
you know, tighter and tighter here. Uh, And that's why
they moved on from Sean, so patience is already uh
not something that they have. And they're gonna they're gonna want.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
A coach to come in here. I think they're gonna
lean more towards someone.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Who's done it and get this thing going because they're
gonna want to be in the super Bowl next year.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, what do you make of the reports or suggestions?
What are you hearing about Bill Belichick in Buffalo? Nothing?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Bill doesn't have a market in the NFL, you know,
So I think, look, he has been his people, including
coach Belichick, have been very open with people media, with
people in football. They want to stay in North Carolina,
so I think he obviously has information. You're not doing
that unless you know you don't have a shot. And
(06:19):
I have yet to have a conversation in this coaching cycle,
even last one of anyone who seriously was considering bringing
Bill in. I didn't mean to come off mean by
the way. That was just more of like the facts,
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, sometimes Bill was me. I mean, it's not the
end of the world.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh Bill's Bill's remain billis. I've had some tough press conferences.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I remember sitting there.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I was young.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
My shirt was soaked. I was so afraid.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I asked him if he ever considered treating Jimmy No,
if you regretted trading Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Garoppolo after that practice.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Remember when Tom jammed his finger helmet like cut his finger.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And that was the question I asked in that pot
was to practice and it was? It was.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It was memorable, it was awful.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I love John Harble. The hardballs are so they get
they love football so much they can't even hide it.
They're like kids, They're like kids. I got to tell
you something. I've been critical of the Giants for a
long time. I think they're good now. I think they
need to right tackle a tight end some secondary help.
Are you surprised? What was the word around the league
(07:27):
in your sources when Harball immediately jumped on this opportunity.
Did people think it was this good of a job
because John's like, not no hesitation, He wanted that job.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, and a lot of candidates felt the same way
about this Giants roster. This was one of the golden ones,
just based on some of these players and obviously the
history the ownership. Look you, they haven't won in a
while we know it hasn't been great with Joe Shane
at the Helm, but ownership has always been really fair
to their head coaches, and while they're involved, they're not
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hands on telling you what to do. They're just gonna
listen and trust you, and that's valuable. It was all
about ownership and quarterback this cycle, and it continues to
be as we have these openings. So John I think
brings accountability. He's going to bring vision, focus and really
an adult in the building. That is what someone there
said to me, Like, that is what they're going to
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get in New York. Yes, we joke that he's a
little bit of a football labberdoodle, but he also knows
what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And I think the New York Giants are very excited
to hand him the keys.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, I would be excited. I think they're close. Okay,
the Steelers we joked earlier like they feel like, you know,
guys married for thirty five years, then all of a
sudden he's single and he doesn't know. He thinks apps
are like appetizers at Chile's. He doesn't know what dating
apps are. They don't look for coaches, they don't know
what they're doing. They don't do this ever, and so
all of a sudden, the Giants to know how to
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do it. Atlanta knows how to do it. Like some
of these organizations, they're pretty good at the let's go,
let's get a coaching search. Pittsburgh doesn't do it. I'm
hearing Mike McCay and I'm thinking, well, he's a Pittsburgh guy.
It's an easy one. What are the Steelers at.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I made a joke during the Giants hardball situation. Someone
had texted me that the Giants were behind on the contract,
like they weren't getting it done. I'm like, don't they
just have a template ready to go? They do this
all the time, Like how hard could it beat them
to a contract? In New York, you're always doing it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Where Pittsburgh, you know, they're like looking an old files,
like how do you do this again? And look, here's
what I know from that ownership especially, they're going to
go with what they know right and what they're comfortable doing.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
And look what they did with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
They took a young, you know, black defensive coach with
tons of energy and they took a shot on him
and it worked pretty darn well, so yes, I can
see them gravitating towards a guy who's done it before
because it's comfortable. This isn't a fantastic roster. They don't
have a quarterback. This is one of the jobs that
I don't believe a lot of these coaches that are
hungry to get in are are fighting.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Just because they're not. First of all, you got a
filling for Mike Tomin. That's tough, but you're not coming
in here and winning.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I don't necessarily believe that that's the way the
franchise is seeing it. I don't think they think that this.
They're in rebuild, So you got to be able to
have someone to come in here.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
And be able to communicate like, look, we have a
lot of work to do.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Anthony Weaver is the name I want you to watch.
I think he is somebody that both the Baltimore Ravens
and remember Anthony Weaver. He's the defensive coordinator for the
Miami Dolphin. He is a former raven himself. He's a
former coach for the Ravens. John Harbaugh overpassed him to
be the DC. He left Baltimore went to Miami. That's
where he is now. So he is up for the
job in Baltimore, and he's up for the job in Pittsburgh,
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and I think he's got a really good shot of
getting one of these. Buffalo also recently put in for him,
so he's going to be meeting with him as well.
And doesn't it just make a lot of sense if
you're going to go with, Hey, this is what we've
done before, young hungry culture builder player guy. But of
course you know he's going to have to try to
beat up Brian Flores and Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And also these coaches that are playing this weekend. That's
a whole nother layer to this.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm kind of fascinated with the Raiders job because Fernando
Mendoza is a franchise quarterback. How great? I don't nobody's
darn good rock Towers, Ashton Genty. They got to get
their old line fixed. Old Colton Miller I think is
still around a off injury. They got to get the
old line fixed for Mendoza. But their defense is okay,
Brady's on the sideline of the National Championship game, like
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everybody's watching. I don't know if it's a good job.
I know this that when you get a really talented
quarterback and a rookie deal for four or five years,
you can stack the roster and that usually Denver with
bow Nicks, Drake May, New England, justin Herbert Initially, it's
usually a pretty good thing if you get the right coach.
Do we know anything on Vegas?
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
First of all, you got to make sure you hit
and we got to hope that if the readers do
decide to go in that direction, that he turns out
to be the player that you just listed.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You never know, right, So you've got that gamble.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
But look, the.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Raiders are not one of these jobs that I'd put
him in the same category.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I'd put the Steelers above them actually in terms of
guys that want that job.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And I think it has to just do with the
fact that it's been a place to die over the
last few years. You know, it's been hard to have success.
You've got Max Crosby who's disgruntled. What's his future going
to be in Vegas?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
He's the face of that place. If you don't have him,
who do you have in that locker room? Policing and
setting the tone of what you want and the expectations.
So look, I think that they're leaning more towards offensive sided,
offensive minded type coaches. Right, So, Davis Webb is a
name I keep hearing. Obviously, he's the Denver Broncos quarterback coach.
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Are you going to bring in a first time head
coach with a brand new quarterback? You know, that's a
that's a big challenge. But Tom Brady's running the show there.
He is the one having him all the say on
what they're going to do next year, which which I
think could could be a good thing. You know, the
jury's out on whether or.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Not he can pick right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
All right, Agent, there's.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
So many openings, right, we could go we could have
a whole show on just this because there's so much.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I mean, let me throw this out there. And
I thought the Ravens were the best job until Buffalo
opened up. And I still think the raven Steve Bshotti
is great, roster is very very good, O line stable,
Lamar Jackson, who I mean, jesse Mentor feels like the play,
but I'm I'm not hearing about it. What's the Baltimore situation?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, jesse Mentor's with them right now actually, so we'll
see how that pans out. I love to know what
his plan is at OC. That's all that matters, is
all that matters in Baltimore right now. Who is going
to coach Lamar Jackson, Steve Bashott. It was very transparent.
They're all in, right, They're all in because they fired
John Harbaugh and they want to make this work. They
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want to get to the super Bowl and this is
another organization that's looking at it as a window.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Right, we got to get the most out of them.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So while I understand that you're bringing the leader of men,
and that's important that you have the CEO, the plan
for OC has to be there, right, So Cliff Kingsbury
is a name that's out there. I can tell you
I know for a fact that Lamar Jackson and those
receivers would like Cliff Kingsbury to run their offense. They
have shown support, they've been vocal about it. They've been
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part of some of these interviews too. Lamar Jackson's part
of these. He's zooming in. He's in touch with the
decision makers of what he likes, who he's liked, and
so you know, we'll see how this shakes out. But
I think the you know, Anthony Weavers one of those
again that I mentioned a few minutes ago that is
going to be in the running for this job, and
from what I understand, Cliff Kingsbury would be his OC.
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And I think that would be a pretty tremendous fit
when you think about what Cliff Kingsbury did with Kyler Murray.
Now now insert Lamar Jackson, one of the best quarterbacks
in football.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
All right, finally, AJ Brown drama. I've said I would
have moved them at the deadline. I think he's great.
I think Buffalo should be interested. I think there's all
sorts of suitors for him. I think he's I think
he's impossible unless you have big, long, young corners. He's
hard to defend, and I think a lot of these.
I mean Stefan Digs a great example. By year three,
he can wear people out. But Stefan Diggs everywhere he
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goes to the first couple of years productive, everybody likes him.
He's great in the room. AJ Brown for a couple
of years, and Buffalo is interesting to me. I think
he'd have a market. Do you think Philadelphia will move him?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I just saw Digs on Sunday night after the Patriots game.
I mean, it's like he's twenty two years old now,
like he is retressed, he is rejuvening. He's the leader
of that team. Is he's basically Rabel's little soldier. Like
what Rabel tells him to do, he tells the locker room.
It works. It's a good match, right, because there's a
lot of ego there, as you know, and you got
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to feed that and you got to manage it. And
good coaches know how to manage it. And they're all
in on the quarterback there in New England. So now
let's transfer this over to AJ Brown. And it's pretty
obvious he is not happy. He was not happy from
really this going back to last year, right, but it's different.
They won the Super Bowl. That kind of masks sold
the problems. So here we are this year.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I think it's gonna be up to him. I
think the bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Line, Philadelphia is not stupid. They're not gonna waste their time.
They can't go through what they just did again. This
team has to revamp how they approach this season, and
they're not moving on from Jalen Hurts. Right, So you're
picking AJ Brown or you're picking Jalen Hurts. Who you're picking,
You're picking the quarterback. That's just how it works. Plus
the owner loves them so and he also is the
Super Bowl MVP. So I think for aj Brown, I
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could easily see Buffalo showing interest. I could see Kansas
City showing interests. Imagine him with Patrick Mahomes. So we'll
see if they wind up working out a deal to
get them out of Philadelphia. But I'd be surprised to
see him as an Eagle next year.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
All Right, you're crushing. You're just all the time. I
see you with stories and crushing and intel and all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
No, I like it, but I feel like sometimes when
I'm dumping the information, it sounds so robotic and I
don't mean to, but it's just like you're just like
taking all these conversations and all the writing and recording.
You're just like, I gotta get my best up. So yeah, no,
it's it's fun.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
This is awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
This has been the wildest coaching cycle I have ever covered.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
People. Everyone to talk everyone wants.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
To talk to about it right now because there's so
many moving parts. Right, you got Brian Gable up and
Buffalo Tennessee wants him to be the OC. Philly wants
him to be the OC. If he takes one of
these jobs and he doesn't go to Philly, who's the
OC for the Eagles? That should be a good job,
right It doesn't appear to be. So there's there's like
all these like little tentacles to all of this that
I just find really interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Great Cenia as always great. Thanks for having me, all right,
She's awesome. Diana Russini at the Athletic, like the Harrball's
great energy brings it every single time. Man that I'm
telling you. Some some years at Fox we get breaks
like the World Series last year. I mean he's just like,
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how lucky did we get Seahawks Rams? Oh my god?
I mean, could you have picked division rivals? They've played twice?
The games are wild. The redemption story of Darnold and
to some degree of redemption story with Matt Stafford, although
we always knew he was talented, but it was, you know,
twelve years in Detroit getting your you know, helmet beat in.
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So much good stuff out there.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
No, I don't know if you guys saw this. Cody
World Series Champ MVP NLCSMVP just signed one hundred and
sixty two million dollar deal five years with the Yankees.
Where's the outrage?
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
My got Cody Bellinger's just as good a player, if
not better than Kyle Tucker. Well, where's the outrage? There
is none, because you don't think the Yankees are well run.
They don't threaten you. The Dodgers have money and they win.
The Yankees have money. That's why this is just ridiculous. Oh,
Kyle Tucker's signing terrible for baseball if ratings and revenue
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are up and attendance is up, check check check, and
the Cubs Yankees now have signed another pitcher and Cody Bellinger.
Good offseason for the Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers. If the Astros
are healthy, they'll contend for a World Series. Crown Atlanta's
got to stay healthy. They're good. And by the way, Seattle, Cleveland,
Milwaukee all doing very very well. Small markets. I don't
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want to hear about Pittsburgh. They're irrelevant, they're billionaire owners, cheap.
I don't care about him. So but yeah, I said this,
I just ran it on this an hour ago. There's
a big story that that Kyle Tucker Dodgers trade of
that that or that move, that acquisition that sent everybody
over the top. But Cody Bellinger one hundred and sixty
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two million, five years Yankees, that's okay. This guy's an MVP, guys,
an NLCS MVP. He's a World Series champ. He's got
a better resume than Kyle Tucker. Why aren't you bothered
by I think? Am I wrong on this? Because of
deferred payments? I think the Yankees led baseball last year
in payroll and they just signed a great pitcher. Weather's
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and Cody Bellinger. Where's the outrage? This is not a
pro la ran, it's a pro common sense ran. You're
bothered because the Dodgers when they get guys always come
home with the ring. If the Dodgers would have lost
Game seven of the Blue Jays, nobody'd be outraged by
Kyle Tucker or very few. It's that they're winning, not
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just the money. Again, Pool Hols Josh Hamilton in today's
dollars signed fifteen years ago, almost for five hundred and
forty million. Nobody cared why it's the Angels. Soto goes
to the Mets, Nobody cares why it's the Mets. You
just don't like that the Dodger sign him and then
hoist a trophy that's at the heart of it. As
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the kids say, let's keep it one hundred. Jmack of
the News, turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
This is the headline news I heard.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
I want to go to this Rams Seahawks showdown. Very
excited for the rubber match in Seattle this weekend. It's
on Fox, and Matt Stafford talked about the task at
hand with a Super Bowl trip at stake.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
It's a huge challenge to go play in Seattle, we've
done it once this year, and what a hell of
a game that was. And you know, they got such
great players on their team, they really well coached. I'm
sure excited to be in this opportunity and be in
the situation to, you know, go see what we're all about.
Can we go into their play arguably the toughest place
to play in the league, a team that's played really
good football a year, and then find a way to
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win it and uh, you know, continue this journey, because
that's what it's about at this point in the year.
Can we find a way to work together for another week?
And you know, we have the opportunity now, and it's
it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How good is that gonna be? If you put those
two rosters together j Mack and did a Pro Bowl team,
you could have Stafford and Darnold to your quarterbacks. I mean,
just look at the receivers, Pookah JSN, Davonte Adams, go
look at your defensive front. I mean, if you just
took the Rams and Seahawks and said we'll play the league,
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we'll do you do your Pro Bowl, We'll do ours.
I'm telling you right now, you could compete your on
line you'd get like you know, you'd get Gray's Abel,
who's good. Rams have you know a couple of pieces
and the interior that are very good. Your on line
wouldn't be full of pro bowlers, but everything else you
could go toe to toe with almost everything. Take Seattle
secondary Rams receivers, I mean the backs would be Walker
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Kyron Williams. I mean that these rosters are loaded.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
Are you gonna do one of my favorite things where
you ranked the top ten players in the game. Okay,
I don't even know if Sam Donald's top ten in
this game.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
I'm not even joking. It's loaded.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
There's so much talent. Donald's good, but he's o all pro.
You know, he's fine. I don't think he's top ten,
but I'm sure you'll find a way to crowbar in.
Let me let me ask you something con So in
that second meeting Ram Seahawks, did you know that the
Rams did not punch until they were like nine minutes
left in the game. They went up and down the field,
did whatever they wanted, and that's when McVeigh made the
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catastrophic mistake.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Let me dial it back, get a.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
Little conservative milk clock, and then the punt return happens
at all.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Hell breaks loose, you know.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
I tried to break down in quarters, like if they
saw a boxing match, the eight quarters that they faced,
and I think Seattle's only got one of the quarters,
and that would be the fourth quarter of the second meeting.
Otherwise it was it was even or Rams. Yeah, And
it's like.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The coaching, the skill players, the pass rushers, and it
just there's so many good players in this game, and
this is what we should have. Philadelphia's got the players,
they don't have the coaching.
Speaker 10 (24:13):
One of the arguments I heard was the Rams peaked
right around this second meeting. The Seahawks are peaking now
and the Rams are kind of I don't know about
leaking oil.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
They've only covered once in their last five games, and
that was Week eighteen against Caroline.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I gotta tell you, I'm gonna disagree. I think Chicago
peaked at the end of the year. I think that
win in Chicago is way more impressive than people think.
They needed. No turnovers, no penalty, no drop passes, and
they won in overtime. With McVeigh and Stafford, Chicago would
have beaten virtually everybody in football not named the Rams
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and Seahawks. I think right now in the NFC today,
Chicago's the third best team, and I think it goes
Seattle Rams Bears. I think that you look at that
really well, Ben Jamis show you that. I mean, Chicago,
Everybody's just got way out of course, the Rams won
their experience. Chicago was a really good football team they needed.
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The Rams played a perfect game, no pedalies or drop
pathes in freezing weather.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
You could say that, but Colin we both said it
on Monday, like McVeigh might have called his worst game
of the season. Well, they even criticized himself for his
run pass ratio through three quarters before realizing, oh.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (25:28):
You know, I've got an awesome ground game with Kyrien Williams,
and oh, let me dust off Blake Korum. Yeah, maybe
I'm complaining because I bet Blake Corum over props because
it was such a great matchup, and then he doesn't
get carries all the fourth quarter and he can't eclipse
his total. But it was a bizarre game plan. I
don't you know how sometimes you think overthink the room.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I feel like McVeigh might have done that against the Bears.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's the downside to being smart. Smart smart people tend
to overthink stuff.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
All right, let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Colin, Listen, it's the off season almost you like hot takes.
This is about as good as it gets. So obviously
the Ravens have moved on from John Harbaugh. Well, you know,
the Raiders have the number one pick in the draft
in Fernando Mendoza. I feel like we speculated this a
couple weeks back. But there's a report that claims the Raiders,
sick and tired of losing, are looking for a big swing,
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and they may say, hey, we got the number one pick,
do you want it? We want Lamar Jackson, And there
is some shatter about this. Now, Lamar has the brutal
cap hit right, seventy four million, I think it's number
one in the league, and he has two years left
on his deal.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
He's looking for more money.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You'd have to move Max Crosby with that contract. But yeah,
I think I should now that's I don't. First of all,
i'd feel bad for Lamar Jackson. That Raider o line
at the end of last year was a disaster.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Ravens O line ain't any great either.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I mean it was limit bombs are very good center
at LISTA.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Okay, that cancels out Colton Miller, who's an excellent left tackle.
So I think there's a bigger question here. So you know,
maybe we can ask Brady this next time he comes on.
But a lot of front offices they don't want to wait.
Everybody's impatient in society, whether it's movies, TV, sports.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But nobody has any patience.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Okay, Mendoza's not going to be a star colin instant, Jason,
It's going.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
To take a couple zero of the top fifteen quarterbacks
paid quarterbacks in the leader in the playoffs. Yeah. The
way to win super Bowls mostly is got a really
really super talented guy on a rookie deal. More, get
Darnold on a team friendly deal. So Lamar Jackson's too expensive,
so the Raiders would get him and have to give
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up stuff to get him, and they wouldn't have the
draft capital to surround him with really good young free players.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
One hundred percent agree, I'm with you.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
My question is are the Raiders going to be disciplined
or are they going to say we've.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Been so bad, We've been so awful. We're in the
seller in this division.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
He is a very disciplined Hue and Tom has influence.
So my guess is listen to Brady. If he has influence,
his his career can be defined by discipline. You have
to be disciplined to make this work. Bringing in a
guy that's worth a zillion dollars and giving up draft capital.
If you if you, it'd be one thing if I
could bring in Lamar like in a trade and and
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and some way, you know, not have to give up
two ones of three of four. But if you bring
him in, you can't now pay Max Crosby, and now
I have to replace Max Crosby. Well I need multiple
draft picks. If that doesn't work, I agree, I totally agree.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
Like people are saying, oh, the Jets should go after
Lamar or Kyler Murray, Like, no, I'm starting from scratch.
But again, we're in an impatient society. This owners, these owners, Colin,
they want to win. Now, Okay, we're seeing a lot
ten coaches got fired.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
That's insane. So I would I would.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
I would not be shocked if the Raiders DIDs on
the goofy here, but I'm with you, I ain't trading
that number one pick. Final stories to the NBA colin
where last night Jonathan Kuminga made a surprise appearance, but
only because Jimmy Butler's hurting out for the season.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Obviously, Kaminga and Kurage do not get along. He's really
in the doghouse.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
And remember Kuminga requested a trade as recently as last week.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
How about this one, Colin. This is how ugly it
is for Golden State.
Speaker 10 (29:19):
Before last night's game, GM Mike Dunlevy addressed this trade
request that Jonathan Cominga made.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
As far as the demand, I'm aware of that. I
think when you you know, in terms of demands, when
you make a demand, there needs to be demand on
the market. So we'll see where that unfolds. But heard
always with these guys, I tell him I'm willing to
work with them. You know, want to help people out,
whether that's JK or any player on a roster. So
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we're good with you know, that's his wishes, trying to
figure that out, but we got to do it's best
for organization.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I'm getting old. I watched him play high school. His
dad was coach of the Blazers. He was a star
basketball player. I think at Jesuit High School. Great is that?
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Is that the best way to be politically correct and
be like nobody.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I don't get the Kaminga A demand.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Kaminga could score twenty a game, I wouldn't remember any
of the baskets. He's a long athletic guy. Long history
in the NBA of guys who can fill get you
buckets but don't necessarily win you games or matter. I've
covered them before. Kminga is a really long athletic guy.
But I don't remember you know, do you remember his baskets.
I've covered guys where you remember. It feels like a
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lot of their big baskets, like like you know him,
I know him. You can remember Jordan's big shots or
Kobe's big shots. You can remember the Lebron's great moments.
Kaminga is just a really long athlete. And and again,
if you think you're gonna build around Kaminga, I mean
if they I don't know. I've just my takes always
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been half after four years in the league with a
really smart coach and a smart superstar, I mean Draymon,
Kerr and Curry are hoping he would be a star.
They're not rooting against him. They were like Jordan Poole.
It didn't work. They didn't like him. If kerk Curry
and Draymond, these are high functioning NBA guys. They wish
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Kuminga scored eighteen a game and the points mattered. He'll
score twenty four and they won't feel like they mattered.
So you know, I don't want to beat up on players.
But if Kerr can't figure it out, he's pretty good.
If Curry can't figure it out, if dramon Draymond has
loved a lot of his teammates, He's not a guy
that needs the ball in his hands. They want this
kaminga thing to work out, and it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Well, he's twenty three years old. He just turned twenty three.
We got it. We got to at least give him
a chance.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, field goal percentage three years in a row
gone down.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
He doesn't fit with the Warriors, So why would they
sign him?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Why did they keep eight points better a game when
he doesn't play?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
But why did they keep him?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Why didn't they move because there's no market for him?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I mean, you telling me you can't get anything.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
For you can't get, yeah, anything, you don't want to
give him away. You put so much time into him,
there's no market for him.
Speaker 10 (32:09):
It's weird how badly they bungled James Wiseman. Remember he
went second overall. I don't even know if he's in
the league.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It was a terrible draft. Don't blame him. It was
a terrible draft and they were in their championship window.
He was too young, he didn't have enough games. I mean,
if you enter the Warriors with Draymond and Stephan Kerr,
they're asking a lot of you, like Wiseman just he
didn't even be barely played five seven. What are you
play in college? He played it, almost played no games.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
Man, This was like the Golden era Warriors with k
versus Lebron.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
It's over. It stinks for the league. Man, I missed
these Warriors.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
The Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
We'll meet for a third time, for the third time.
Could it be the game of the year next?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
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Speaker 10 (33:05):
Tonight on FS one. It's a college hoops tripleheader. First
at sevent eastern, Xavier and Creighton face off in a
Big East showdown. Then in nine Cincinnati takes on top
ranked Arizona. At eleven, San Diego State battles Grand Canyon.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
It's all tonight on FS one.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Got the under on that one? Or what? You're pretty good?
Speaker 10 (33:25):
No action tonight in college basketball, but it's early. The
day is still young. No atmospheric river coming out west,
So I got some time.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
If you're talented and you have the ride attitude, even
if your current circumstances stink, you will find your kingmaker.
Sam Darnold spent a lot of years in New York
and Carolina, and then he caught Kyle Shanahan and Kevin
O'Connell's high. What did Andy Doframe say he found freedom
(33:56):
after five hundred yards of you know what? Yeah, he
went through that same kind of tunnel. Sam Darnold's a
good guy, never played the victim, kept improving, got along
with teammates, respectful the coaches. Same with Matt Stafford. Do
you know if Matt Stafford gets to the Super Bowl,
(34:22):
he will have more playoff wins than the Detroit Lions franchise. Ever,
and Donald, with last Saturday's win, has more playoff wins
than the Jets in the last what fifteen years. So
quarterbacks a unique position. Stoicism matters, don't get too high,
don't get too low. And I would say Stafford stoic,
(34:44):
Donald Stowick both this year combined seven and one after losses.
They just don't get high, they just don't get low.
And one of the things I love about football, it
builds character. Practice is hard. You're playing hurt by week three,
you're playing in terrible weather, and you don't think of
quarterback as like a physical position. But Justin Herbert was
(35:07):
hit one hundred and twenty nine times this year. And
I looked this morning at Matt Stafford's career injuries, knee injuries,
multiple shoulder injuries, multiple hand injuries, hernia, discs, back issues,
and concussions, and that's what we know about. But it's
also a mental game because only two people have to
show up to the podium winner lose every week. Head coach, quarterback.
(35:30):
That's it. Edge rusher, receiver can hide. So you've got
to be the guy, and you got to be stoic,
and you can't start fires and you can't complain. Stoicism
is a real gift. And I mean, I think when
I look at Stafford, he was thirteen years I mean
Aaron Rodgers got mad, he got mad at eye roll,
(35:52):
Mike McCarthy and Green Bay after a bad series. Stafford
had thirteen years of dealing with second tier stop, head down,
self improvement. Be the best teammate you can be. You'll
find your king maker. He found McVay and it's the
same thing with Donald. So I mean, I look at
(36:14):
these two. One took twelve years in Detroit, one five
five and a half years Carolina, and it's just impossible
to not root for Donald and Stafford. For me, here
was Sean McVay on facing once again the Seahawks defense
third time this year.
Speaker 11 (36:31):
I give Mike and their coaching staff and John Schneider.
You know, they have vision for players that are these
jokers that allow you to basically be able to be
stout enough against the run but still really good in coverage,
you know, where a lot of the explosives come up.
They've got a vision for guys and they can be
stout against the run versus what they would say is
(36:52):
typically most people would just look at it and say
it's a lighter grouping.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, I mean, they just they don't miss on draft picks.
A lot of what Seattle does is because they have
a plan. A lot of what the Rams do is
because they have a plan. You're not just drafting players,
you're you know, you're drafting employees that fit into your culture.
That's why it's so important when you hire McVeigh and
Mike McDonald very similar people, that you got to build
a culture. Oh, it's about building the roster. There's a
(37:17):
reason so many teams miss on draft picks. It's not
that the players aren't any good. They often leave and
go other places and fit you got. You got to
hire a CEO who can build a culture, and then
you you're drafting employees to fit into your culture. That's
what Vrabel gets in New England. They got like five
rookies making an impact in New England. If you gave
them the wrong coach, those five rookies wouldn't make that impact.
(37:41):
I mean, it was not a very good draft last
year by left tackle standards, will Will Campbell was okay
by great like this year has I would imagine that
the two of the top left tackles this year are
like really high end prospects. Will campbell Is arms are
a little short for left tackle. He's good, but it
was not a very good draft last year, one of
(38:02):
the weaker I can remember. And yet the Patriots have
five guys, five rookies who actually are making an impact.
Why you're not just drafting players. You build a culture.
You draft employees who fit into your culture. That's why
so many good employees out there struggle at a company,
They go to a new company and they crush. Right.
(38:23):
We always want to blame the employee. You want to
blame the draft pick. I think if you put Keon
Coleman in the Rams, he would have been better as
a rookie than he was with the Bills. Or you
put it with Kyle Shanahan. Right, there's a reason that
Brock Purty, seventh rounder is a star in San Francisco
and Juwan Jennings was he a six or a seventh
rounder is a star in San Francisco. Why would that be?
(38:48):
It's the culture. We did this the other day with
the Rams. The Rams have a left tackle, undrafted, Nate Lanman,
inside linebacker, undrafted got him to Atlanta. The Rams have
more that are highly productive star players in the third, fourth, fifth,
sixth round in any other team in the league. Why,
Because you're not just drafting players, you have a culture.
(39:11):
You're drafting employees who fit into it. And so when
I when I watch these two, I see like smart
head coaches, really good gms that are really good at
drafting employees who fit perfectly into their plan. And we
did that graphic the other day with the Rams. It's insane.
How many really good undrafted left tackles have we ever had?
(39:33):
Not many? I mean, Pooka Nakua could be Offensive Player
of the Year category. Fifth rounder, Kyron Williams, fifth rounder,
they're tight ends. They got third, fourth, fifth round guys.
By the way, I had Diana Russini on top of
the last hour this hour, and we were asking her
about you know, Buffalo right now, there's a rumor that
(39:54):
Bill Belichick could get it. I don't buy it. I
think Brian Dable to me, been there great. I think
Josh Allen would choose him probably if he could. Here's
Diane on on the decision why they moved off Sean mcdermoy.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Look, they made a move because they know the window
is going to just get you know, tighter and tighter here,
and that's why they moved on from Sean. So patience
is already uh not something that they have, and they're
gonna they're gonna want a coach.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
To come in here.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I think they're gonna lean more towardson who's done it
and get this thing going because they're gonna want to
be in the Super Bowl next year.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
So Harbaugh's off the market, Jeff Hafley's off the market,
Stefanski's off the market. Who else? Who else am I missing?
We got three guys off the market. Salah Robert Sala Tennessee.
He's off the market. And also remember this, so are
many of the best assistants. That's why hiring quickly matters.
(40:52):
There's only a finite number of great coordinators on the market,
so you want to be proven, you want to take
your time. But the Giants and the Falcons they got
a head start and everybody and then all it takes
is getting involved very quickly. I mean, that's why the
Giants didn't waste any time. They've done this several times.
(41:12):
You start waiting, you become the fifth sixth seventh team.
I mean, somebody said that the Steelers are waiting for
Chris Shula. Okay. Oh, by the way, Mike McDaniel, this
is this official Chargers. It's official now, Yeah, Mike McDaniel, Justin, Herbert,
Lad mcconkee, Jim Harbaugh sounds like an AFC West champion. Mean,
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