February 13, 2026 • 28 mins
Colin talks to former New England Patriots WR Julian Edelman about the Pats loss in the Super Bowl to the Seahawks, his thoughts on Sam Darnold, how he grades New England's season, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, welcome back, twelve years, three trophies. Julian Edelman
is joining us. We figured we'd wrap up this week
with a former Patriot. Great all with New England because
it was it was a pretty rough loss, and it's
funny the Super Bowls you were in. It was a
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fascinating dynasty because it was win close, lose close, win games.
You were not favored, lose a game to Philadelphia, or
you didn't punt. I want to start with this, I
going into the Super Bowl said the only thing I
know for sure, New England will not run the football
particularly well. I don't think it's a good matchup for
the O line that I felt. And I also said
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that means Drake May is gonna throw thirty five times
or more. That's not great. He's one in seven. I
was surprised that on their first drive they did swing passes.
I thought they should have used the tight ends more.
I like Hunter Henry, I didn't think it was one
of Josh McDaniel's great game plans, although I think whoever
won Seattle or the Rams was the better team and
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would have won the Super Bowl. When you looked at
the game plan, what was your initial reaction to the
play calling and the design.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I initially thought that they never got comfortable and they
had to probably pivot from what they wanted to do.
I mean, you look in the first half. I think
they had their best drive on the first drive where
they had eight plays. They got a few first downs
in a couple drives. I think they go three and
out with negative runs, so they can never get in
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a rhythm. Like we never saw jumbos, big people on
the field. We didn't see empties, we didn't see a
no huddle, and those are kind of things that we
used to do when we were struggling with the pass rush.
I ultimately think, you know, they just got out coach
and out played and Seattle. I mean they were only
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rushing four and they were creating so much havoc that
they believed that their guys were good enough to not
even have to bring a blitz even though they brought
Witherspoon a few times, which was a new look, and
they could go out and win.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And you know, it was a remarkable job by that defense.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Josh I feel like he may have got knocked off that.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Game plan, you know, and rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The young quarterback Drake may hadn't been playing particularly well,
seemed to be maybe a little banged up in that shoulder,
seemed to be very uncomfortable, you know, And you got
to take this with the grain of salt. This team overachieved.
This team had four wins last year. They come in
and get go fourteen to three, go to the Super Bowl.
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You know, the NFL is not Disney movies. So it's
a sad day in New England.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What would you add? I feel like they need another
tight end. I think they got to throw some resources
at the offensive line when you I think their defense
is pretty good. Again, I've said I would consider going
getting the Max Crosby off the edge. I like their
interior D lineman a lot, but they I feel like
they need another difference maker on the D line, like
one more layer. Maybe they can get that in the draft,
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But is there when you look at this team going
back to your Patriot games, it wasn't always the most talent.
It was the talent in the right spots that you
guys were always great at. What are the things, in
your opinion, New England needs to address.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I still think they're trying to figure that out through
the self scout that they're going to do this complete offseason.
I mean, this is a young football team. Yeah, you know,
you can never go long. You can never go wrong
with offensive lineman. I personally think Will Campbell got baptized,
but you also got to remember he was out for
a month and a half his first game backs in
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the playoffs. He's going against legendary defensive lines each week.
And this guy's a rookie. He was playing in college
last year. Undersized guy, and he gives me the compl
of kind of like a Matt Light. You know, Matt
Light was not the biggest guy, but he was one
of the most productive linemen I ever played with, the
technician freak, and so I think he's going to get
better with this technique as time goes on.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He's a rookie. You can never go wrong with lineman.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They definitely could use a playmaker, another playmaker, but they
also have a young group of receivers that played pretty
well together, and you know, I think that helps for
the developmental of Drake may When you don't have this
younger receiver, I think he'll be ready for, you know,
a big time receiver, maybe this year, maybe the next year,
because now he knows where to go with the open ball.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So I think you got to get him protected.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I think you maybe get him a playmaker and then
you know, I agree, maybe someone on the edge. Barmore
and Williams are elite in the middle of the field. Yeah,
if you can get someone on the outside, that would
be that would change this defense to a whole other level,
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because I mean they got guys on the back end.
The two Kyl Berkeley safeties played outrageous. They got Davis
and you know, Gonzo on the outside. They got playmakers
at all levels. So if they could get a pass rusher,
you could never have too many pass rushers at the edge.
So you know, they have forty one million this offseason
to spend. You still got Drake on that young quarterback deal.
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You know, I anticipate they're gonna they're gonna be better
team next year. They may not have a better record,
but I think they'll be a better team because even
though they lost this game in the in the Super Bowl,
they gained so much human capital going through this experience
of the playoffs. They got to rattle off wins in Denver,
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which you know, we could never do a lot of
people can't do. That's an incredible place to get a win.
And even though it wasn't pretty. There's thing great football players.
Good football players through every experience, whether good or bad,
they use those those experiences and they put them on
their tool belts. They learn from those bad things and
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they put those good things on their belts. So I
think they're going to be in a good Jacober to
be a good football team next year.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, Tom Brady is the best quarterback that's ever played.
He never I and all the Super Bowls, I don't
remember ever having a robust offensive first quarter. He threw
for under two hundred yards early on and late in
his career. In the Super Bowl. He had a pick
six in the Super Bowl. It's hard to play flawless
because you're playing really good teams and really good coaches.
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People have looked at Donald and said, well, he didn't
have a turnover during the playoffs, but he wasn't spectacular
and might take his folks to not have a turnover
when you're an aggressive athletic quarterback in the NFC, which
was the better conference, that is hard. How do you
view Donald?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's easy to say the reclamation, he's great, but I
want you to give me some nuance. How do you
view Sam? You've seen the Jets years, You've seen Minnesota,
you've seen Carolina. Where are you on Donald?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know, he got the monkey up his back to
me in the two biggest games of his life. He
played his best football. Yeah, statistically in the Super Bowl
may not have been the best, but he didn't turn
the ball over. And we all know those demons of
Sam Darnald. He likes to throw that thing away. You know,
he's been quoted as he sees ghosts, so you.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Know, it was unreal.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's been really cool to watch his career transform. His
men told toughness, being that good football player that takes
from good and bad experience. He's done that these last
four years with Kyle Shanahan and Kevin O'Connell. He's just
this is this is what you and he's a likable guy.
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You know, he's a really cool, likable guy. And anytime
you play your best games in the most important games.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
That's what you are. That's what you are.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You know, in the NFC Championship against MVP staff for
three touchdowns, three hundred and forty two yards, you know,
against the Patriots really good defense. Hey, we know we
have him out manned on the defensive side of the ball.
Their offense ain't going to begin eighty yards on us.
Just just all you got to do is steer the ship, buddy.
We don't we don't need to do nothing crazy. And
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that's what he had to do. That's what that teams
so great at doing. They played complimentary football. They're very
similar to the Patriots, where they're not trying to go
out and put up accolades on offense, the statistics this
they're doing everything in their possible manner to win the
game by one point. You know, they just have more
explosive players where you have a guy like Jackson Smith
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and Jigbow who could take something and turn it into
eighty yards and so they get those explosion plays. But
you know, it was this has been this is awesome.
And this is why the game of football is awesome.
This is why the NFL is undefeated. It's the best
reality TV show. It's because you got guys like Sam Darnold,
who you're on his fifth team, and he comes out
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and he.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Wins a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
This is that's It's an unbelievable story and I'm I'm
just so happy for him. He's proved people wrong left
and right. He proved me wrong. I bet against him.
I thought he'd make at least one mistake. He didn't
make them. You know, he was damn close on that
first play. It was almost a pick six when they
almost Marcus Jones almost undercut it. To have the resiliency,
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the calm, cool, collectedness to make a couple of the
big time throws when guys were in his face in
the Super Bowl, I mean, he's he's a super Bowl
champion now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Julian Edelman, he's got a podcast called Games with Names,
new episodes every Tuesday. We wrapped a bow on it.
It's good seeing as always, Buddy. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Always great to see you.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, you can't really overreact. I agree with Julian. I
think the Patriots will be a better team and I'll
win ten games instead of fourteen next year, I said,
I think, I just think the AFC had a down
year and it's happened quarterback injuries. You pay all these
quarterbacks big money, the rosters get thin. I think New
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England's a playoff team next year. They feel more eleven
and six than what I saw this year. But can overreact.
I think when you start drafting, where they're going to
start drafting now, at the end of rounds, go get
a tackle, put some money on the old line. I'd
consider either drafting or spending for an edge rusher. But
I think they're in a pretty great space.
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Speaker 1 (12:07):
John Middlecoff with the news, This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Speaking of NFL coaching, the Chargers hired Mike McDaniel to
be their new offensive coordinator. Obviously spent the last four
seasons in Miami. He was spotted last night with his
new head coach, Jim They sat together at the Laker
game court side. What do you make of Mike McDaniel
and will he get the most out of Justin Herbert
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in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I think it's going to be a different looking team.
It's going to be more pass first. I think he
muses far more motion than his predecessor. So I think
the organization, they won't be quite as good without jesse Mentor.
But I felt this year it felt like survival mode.
I mean, they went eleven and six. It's remarkable. It
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felt like survival mode the entire season. And I still
would draft I mean, we had Daniel Jeremiah on the
other day, I would spend most of this draft edge rusher,
an offensive line interior. So I think I think there's
real clarity on what they need once you get the
quarterback and the coach right, you know. I think when
they when I think Mike McDaniel will elevate an offense
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that has felt hamstrung for several years. Even when they
had Alt as a rookie, he wasn't quite what he
is now. So I think they're gonna feel different next year.
I think they're gonna feel more dynamic offensively and maybe
a little less suffocating on defense.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
You know, early on when he got to Miami, it
was Tuah tyreek hill waddle the passing game. Over the
course of the last year and a half, when Tua
fell off a cliff, it was he was great at
calling runs. Imagine if he can get the run game
going with their young running back, take a little pressure
off Herbert. But let's face it, it's all gonna come
down to playoff games. He's owing three so far in
the playoffs. You know, the Chargers are gonna be in
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the playoffs. That's where Jim Harbaugh is every year. He's
gonna be judged on that performance. In early mid January, yep,
as we get closer to the new league year, the
Dolphins have a decision to make on they will need
to make and figure out what they're going to do
with Tua, you know. Speaking at a fan event, a
fan event recently, their new GM John Eric Sullivan was
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asked about to a status.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
I don't know what the future holes right now, and
I told to it that we're working through some things.
What I can tell you is that we're going to
in ferius competition.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
It to that road. Whether two is part of the room,
whether he's not part of the room too, and knows
where we are. You've been very honest and up front.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
We're getting close to a decision, and when we do,
you know, we'll we'll let two and know whether he's
going to be.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Part of this or not.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know, I mean, I don't have a problem.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I really don't have a problem with Tua. Play it
out for one more year. He's more than capable.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
If you want to draft somebody, you know, a Cade
Club Nick in the third or fourth round or what ever,
I mean, roll the dice on that. But I think
we all kind of look at Miami, a new GM,
a new coach. They're safe for a year. You want
to build a culture. Two is one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
John.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You can build a culture if not around him, include
him in it because he's a quality human being. But
that's the idea that he has a market. I don't
know what his market is, so you got to swallow it.
And i'd i'd I'd rather have two at a quarterback
and pay for it than be paying for it. He's
somewhere else. I mean, I I don't know. I just
I think you can draft a quarterback later, get a
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young guy in the building, because Tua does get hurt.
But I don't think he has much of a market.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, he has no market.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
You would have to attach picks to get someone, especially
when you factor in the money. You know, when you
go back a couple of years when Sean Payden got
rid of Russell Wilson, part of that was the personalities.
He didn't want Russell Wilson the building anymore. They wanted
to separate. They wanted a divorce of the personality. Like
you said, I mean Tua, he's got along with Mike McDaniel,
he got along with Nick Saban like he's he's taking
hard coaching. I do wonder, though, if you just want
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to pivot, eat the money, bottom out and maybe next year,
like they tried to do years ago with Flores, maybe
have the number one overall pick and reset the franchise.
To college football column where a report indicates an internal
Big Ten document has been exploring a potential twenty four
team playoff, offering a glimpse of what the model and
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bracket could look like. Here's our mockup based on last
season's final rankings.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, hmm, that's a lot of teams like Virginia needed
another game. The upside to this, because there's some negatives.
You'll hear there's eight buys there colin eight buys.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
That's a little extreme.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
The good news is it would make the committee less crucial.
Love that it would also include more teams. I mean,
there's one hundred and thirty five Division one. If this
only includes a small percentage, right, twenty four teams, people say, well,
it'd make the regular season less viable. John, I, this
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is interesting because I kind of monitored self monitored over
the last two years of the playoffs, because fans pushed
back and said, you know, I won't care as much
about the regular season. So I kind of monitored my consumption,
and I found myself watching as much during the regular
season and much more in the postseason. I stopped watching
a lot of these bowl games, so I watched all
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the big I watched all the games in the tournament
except one, one of the early ones with Tulane. I
watched all the tournament games, and I found myself watching
the same number of games on Saturday that I did,
and it includes more people. You know, the old way
in college football, by the second week of October, seventy
percent of the sport is not going to be playing
for the championship. So you know, it sounds like you
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said this sort of here. Twenty four sounds outrageous, and
it's probably more than today.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I love.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
But the best part about last year when I watched
Miami and Indiana John with the NIL transfer portal in playoffs,
it felt like the most NFL ish college football championship
I'd watched, and I thought it was a remarkable game.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
You know, Dan Landing mentioned this at the end of
last season that listen, if you want to go twenty
four teams, but approach it like the NFL. When the
NFL season ends the regular season, the playoffs are the
following week.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Dan was like, let's cut out.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
We can go more games, but start playing the moment
conference championship games that Saturday, the following weekend, first round
of the playoffs, and if you got twenty four teams,
you can string that out to early mid January.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
John. One of the things I think that this would
eventually do, it would get rid of the conference championship games,
which I think now are unnecessary. So again, this would
I think you'd get rid of that. I mean, do
we really need to see you know, Bama plays Texas
and they've already played. Here's a second time they could
play a third time in the playoff. Let's just here's
everything we agree on. The committee has too much power.
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None of us like that. We don't like that. I
think most people also agree. I don't need conference championships.
You're gonna play these teams in the playoff make the
games mean something. So I mean there's arguments on both sides.
Twenty four is kind of jarring because I was kind
of in a sixteen team. Fourteen sixteen team felt perfect
to me. But when you watch people labor over the
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committee and their rulings and their selections, it's like, I
don't want to talk about committees. I'm not interested in
that being a topic annually for days on end.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Well, if they don't go to twenty fourteens, they go
more like a sixteen eighteen. I think you could pivot
and you gotta listen to Adam Silver takes a lot
of crap, but the play in games. What if conference
championship weekend turns into more the SEC this year, so
instead of Bama Georgia, it's Texas Vandy the winner gets.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Into the playoffs? Is interesting? Yeah, you know the Big
Ten would be SC versus Iowa.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Whatever the matchup turns out to be, right, you win
that game because it's we got pretty lucky with the
Ohio State Indiana game that fell like an NFL game,
but you could start to feel like that's not that's
gonna be a rare occurrence. So do a playing game
situation for the major four conferences. Imagine if Utah played
BYU winner gets in, I mean we're all watching that thing.
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Instead it's BYU against Tech. Tech doesn't have much to
play for and they still kill them. It's not as intriguing.
So that's that's where I think we end up.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, good call, and uh John Middlecoff joining us today.
I appreciate that. In a Friday Jmax returns next week.
John Middlecoff with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, listen if you like college football, and I do.
I watched the same amount last year and the year
before that I did without the playoff. That I mean,
Saturdays are college football. I go to games. I like
watching games. That I mean. I'm I'm a us C homer, right,
I'm gonna watch all the games if they're on TV,
I'm watching the games. So nothing changed. I'm watching all
the big games. I'm watching USC games. I like watching
Notre Dame games. Michigan games. I'm watching the same number
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of games. It's not changing my consumption. And December was
way better than watching you know, the sun Bowl was
a big game, so I'm kind of for it. But
one of the things that's tedious is talking about the committee.
When's the last time you talked about a committee in
any walk of life and thought that was a day
well spent. I just I'm over committee discussions, like, I'm
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just done with that stuff. Get them out of it.
And if you extend the teams, nobody's arguing about twenty
four and twenty five like they're arguing about twelve and
thirteen in Chicago, it's the hurd.
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
Pretty remarkable night last night Lakers beat the Dallas Mavericks
lebron oldest player to have a triple double. And you
know I said before, is I kind of like my
star athletes to end clean tight. I don't want them,
you know, I don't want to see, uh was a
Patrick Ewing or somebody wearing a Raptor's jersey or something.
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You know, I don't love that. Ethan Strauss earlier today
on you know what Lebron, how he wraps up the career.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I'm not saying Lebron's motivated by money. He clearly has
a ton of money, but it has gotten to this
point column where you're walking away from you know, sixty
seventy million dollars a year. That's that's not nothing. I'd
expect him to at least do another year, get the
farewell tour. Lebron likes attention, that's my expectation. I think
it would be better and cleaner of be in it
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it now, like you said, but I think we're getting
at least one more season. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was Patrick Ewing was in an Orlando Magic jersey
and it was was it a team in a Raptor's jersey.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't like that, but you know, I do think
it points to a real truth going on in the NBA.
Is you know when they did that CBA, it created
parody and it also a lot of really really rich
guys at the top. And Lebron is still just you know,
in spurts. He's really really good. I went and watched
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him play in Chicago, and he first twelve minutes of
the game he's totally dominant, best player on the floor.
Again it was the bulls, So I think may be
worse now. I was talking earlier. I said, but I
don't view Lebron if you count everything stamina, free throw shooting, offense,
and defense. And I'll use the two and a half
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minutes to go tie game game seven of the finals.
Who do you want or a big playoff game? Top
ten And when I listed the top ten players, and
I never trusted Lebron a ton of the free throw line.
But he now doesn't have that late game stamina, and
he's not a defensive you know, stalwart like he used
to be. I would say Jokic best player in the world, SGA,
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best clock shooter in the league, Wemby best defensive player,
and it's good on both ends. Kawhi when he's healthy,
remains get a bucket, get a stop with I mean,
all time greats. Steph remains incredibly accurate shooting three point
shots late in games. Kate Cunningham has become more aggressive
over the last couple of years. He is a tremendous
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franchise player. Now you say to yourself, Colin, why is
Luca so low? In my take, is. I don't trust
his stamina. I've seen it die in playoff games. I
don't buy that he's in this great shape. And frankly,
he is a below average defensive player, so I can
get a bucket from him. Kate Cunningham could give me
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a stop, and it's gonna give me a stop Kawhi.
Even Durant's a willing defender. Lucas not. I would say
nine Kevin Durant and ten Jalen Brunson. Again, I went
back and forth on Jalen Brunson and Lebron. I like
Jalen at the free throw line better than Lebron, and
because he's a younger athlete, probably has a little more stamina.
Although he's very ball centric, he can get worn down to.
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I think Lucas a defensive liability. Brunt's was voted clutch
Player of the Year in the NBA last year. I
may have him low, but I'm not saying Lebron's not
a top twelve, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen player. But like
late game situations, we always knew he wasn't a great
free throw shooter, but he was dominant offensively beat anybody
he wanted to the rim. His three point shooting. He's
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a bit streaky, but above average, and his stamina was
relentless until about last year. Year before now it's pretty
noticeable he has spurts. The most interesting comment of the day,
which I disagreed with from Ethan Strauss, I said, Okay,
you know, you know I love Sam Donald. Here was
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Ethan Strauss's take on Sam Donald hoisting a Lobardi Trophy.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I think Sam Donald's average, and I think that's okay.
I think the lesson was Sam Donald is perhaps we
might even make too big a deal of the surrounding
weapons quarterbacks have on offense and not a big enough
deal about all the other help that allows him to win.
I think we saw this super Bowl, and I think
we saw it last Super Bowl with Jalen Hurts when
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we were trying to make him out to be somebody
that he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
He was fine.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
And that's the lesson.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
In the NFL, you can win with a quarterback who's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay, John, let me ask you, a full ber NFL scout,
do you view Donald as fine?
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I view him as slightly better and fine, but there's
a clear gap between him. I mean, he had twenty
turnovers this year at one point. Now you know, relatively
new offense, he had played in it before. But is
he Mames when he's on Alan the Lamar we've seen
win MVP's burrow. But I think you know Herbert has
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carried his team. When you play on a great team,
you know, Purty fell under this. You just the game
manager gets such a negative connotation. A lot of guys
have managed the game to wins, you know, in Super
Bowl trophies. So you had to be holding your breath
a little bit though. Was it the first or second
pass of the game. Oh, I was when it looks
like he almost wrote pick six and the guy who's
gonna jump on it?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Like if listen, I'm from the Pacific Northwest, but I
have I mean I was in the Northeast and Patriot
Country for years, so I really really respect Robert Kraft
in the organization. My take was, if Sam doesn't win,
I just don't want him to have two and three
and four turnovers. If he loses, he loses that. And
they were jumping routes like crazy because I think, honestly, John,
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I think they knew they weren't going to move the
ball much. I think I think those Rabel and Josh
knew we're not gonna have a ton of success. What
we have to do is force Sam to speed up
his game. He has a history of making mistakes and
getting frenetic and kind of getting into weird zones where
he tries to be a little bit of a hero.
He did that in college. Sometimes he did that. Certainly
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Jets Carolina, so I think they were jumping routes. I
think they wanted to get into Darnold's head, force him
into a mistake and and you know, it's a game
inches that first one's picked. It could have I mean,
I think Seattle still overtime wins, but it could change
the play calling and the dynamics of the game. All right, John,
as always, buddy, great job, have a great weekend. All right,
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, welcome back, twelve years, three trophies. Julian Edelman
is joining us. We figured we'd wrap up this week
with a former Patriot. Great all with New England because
it was it was a pretty rough loss, and it's
funny the Super Bowls you were in. It was a
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fascinating dynasty because it was win close, lose close, win games.
You were not favored, lose a game to Philadelphia, or
you didn't punt. I want to start with this, I
going into the Super Bowl said the only thing I
know for sure, New England will not run the football
particularly well. I don't think it's a good matchup for
the O line that I felt. And I also said
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that means Drake May is gonna throw thirty five times
or more. That's not great. He's one in seven. I
was surprised that on their first drive they did swing passes.
I thought they should have used the tight ends more.
I like Hunter Henry, I didn't think it was one
of Josh McDaniel's great game plans, although I think whoever
won Seattle or the Rams was the better team and
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would have won the Super Bowl. When you looked at
the game plan, what was your initial reaction to the
play calling and the design.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I initially thought that they never got comfortable and they
had to probably pivot from what they wanted to do.
I mean, you look in the first half. I think
they had their best drive on the first drive where
they had eight plays. They got a few first downs
in a couple drives. I think they go three and
out with negative runs, so they can never get in
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a rhythm. Like we never saw jumbos, big people on
the field. We didn't see empties, we didn't see a
no huddle, and those are kind of things that we
used to do when we were struggling with the pass rush.
I ultimately think, you know, they just got out coach
and out played and Seattle. I mean they were only
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rushing four and they were creating so much havoc that
they believed that their guys were good enough to not
even have to bring a blitz even though they brought
Witherspoon a few times, which was a new look, and
they could go out and win.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And you know, it was a remarkable job by that defense.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Josh I feel like he may have got knocked off that.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Game plan, you know, and rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The young quarterback Drake may hadn't been playing particularly well,
seemed to be maybe a little banged up in that shoulder,
seemed to be very uncomfortable, you know, And you got
to take this with the grain of salt. This team overachieved.
This team had four wins last year. They come in
and get go fourteen to three, go to the Super Bowl.
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You know, the NFL is not Disney movies. So it's
a sad day in New England.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What would you add? I feel like they need another
tight end. I think they got to throw some resources
at the offensive line when you I think their defense
is pretty good. Again, I've said I would consider going
getting the Max Crosby off the edge. I like their
interior D lineman a lot, but they I feel like
they need another difference maker on the D line, like
one more layer. Maybe they can get that in the draft,
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But is there when you look at this team going
back to your Patriot games, it wasn't always the most talent.
It was the talent in the right spots that you
guys were always great at. What are the things, in
your opinion, New England needs to address.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I still think they're trying to figure that out through
the self scout that they're going to do this complete offseason.
I mean, this is a young football team. Yeah, you know,
you can never go long. You can never go wrong
with offensive lineman. I personally think Will Campbell got baptized,
but you also got to remember he was out for
a month and a half his first game backs in
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the playoffs. He's going against legendary defensive lines each week.
And this guy's a rookie. He was playing in college
last year. Undersized guy, and he gives me the compl
of kind of like a Matt Light. You know, Matt
Light was not the biggest guy, but he was one
of the most productive linemen I ever played with, the
technician freak, and so I think he's going to get
better with this technique as time goes on.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He's a rookie. You can never go wrong with lineman.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They definitely could use a playmaker, another playmaker, but they
also have a young group of receivers that played pretty
well together, and you know, I think that helps for
the developmental of Drake may When you don't have this
younger receiver, I think he'll be ready for, you know,
a big time receiver, maybe this year, maybe the next year,
because now he knows where to go with the open ball.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So I think you got to get him protected.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I think you maybe get him a playmaker and then
you know, I agree, maybe someone on the edge. Barmore
and Williams are elite in the middle of the field. Yeah,
if you can get someone on the outside, that would
be that would change this defense to a whole other level,
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because I mean they got guys on the back end.
The two Kyl Berkeley safeties played outrageous. They got Davis
and you know, Gonzo on the outside. They got playmakers
at all levels. So if they could get a pass rusher,
you could never have too many pass rushers at the edge.
So you know, they have forty one million this offseason
to spend. You still got Drake on that young quarterback deal.
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You know, I anticipate they're gonna they're gonna be better
team next year. They may not have a better record,
but I think they'll be a better team because even
though they lost this game in the in the Super Bowl,
they gained so much human capital going through this experience
of the playoffs. They got to rattle off wins in Denver,
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which you know, we could never do a lot of
people can't do. That's an incredible place to get a win.
And even though it wasn't pretty. There's thing great football players.
Good football players through every experience, whether good or bad,
they use those those experiences and they put them on
their tool belts. They learn from those bad things and
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they put those good things on their belts. So I
think they're going to be in a good Jacober to
be a good football team next year.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, Tom Brady is the best quarterback that's ever played.
He never I and all the Super Bowls, I don't
remember ever having a robust offensive first quarter. He threw
for under two hundred yards early on and late in
his career. In the Super Bowl. He had a pick
six in the Super Bowl. It's hard to play flawless
because you're playing really good teams and really good coaches.
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People have looked at Donald and said, well, he didn't
have a turnover during the playoffs, but he wasn't spectacular
and might take his folks to not have a turnover
when you're an aggressive athletic quarterback in the NFC, which
was the better conference, that is hard. How do you
view Donald?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's easy to say the reclamation, he's great, but I
want you to give me some nuance. How do you
view Sam? You've seen the Jets years, You've seen Minnesota,
you've seen Carolina. Where are you on Donald?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know, he got the monkey up his back to
me in the two biggest games of his life. He
played his best football. Yeah, statistically in the Super Bowl
may not have been the best, but he didn't turn
the ball over. And we all know those demons of
Sam Darnald. He likes to throw that thing away. You know,
he's been quoted as he sees ghosts, so you.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Know, it was unreal.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's been really cool to watch his career transform. His
men told toughness, being that good football player that takes
from good and bad experience. He's done that these last
four years with Kyle Shanahan and Kevin O'Connell. He's just
this is this is what you and he's a likable guy.
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You know, he's a really cool, likable guy. And anytime
you play your best games in the most important games.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
That's what you are. That's what you are.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You know, in the NFC Championship against MVP staff for
three touchdowns, three hundred and forty two yards, you know,
against the Patriots really good defense. Hey, we know we
have him out manned on the defensive side of the ball.
Their offense ain't going to begin eighty yards on us.
Just just all you got to do is steer the ship, buddy.
We don't we don't need to do nothing crazy. And
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that's what he had to do. That's what that teams
so great at doing. They played complimentary football. They're very
similar to the Patriots, where they're not trying to go
out and put up accolades on offense, the statistics this
they're doing everything in their possible manner to win the
game by one point. You know, they just have more
explosive players where you have a guy like Jackson Smith
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and Jigbow who could take something and turn it into
eighty yards and so they get those explosion plays. But
you know, it was this has been this is awesome.
And this is why the game of football is awesome.
This is why the NFL is undefeated. It's the best
reality TV show. It's because you got guys like Sam Darnold,
who you're on his fifth team, and he comes out
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and he.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Wins a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
This is that's It's an unbelievable story and I'm I'm
just so happy for him. He's proved people wrong left
and right. He proved me wrong. I bet against him.
I thought he'd make at least one mistake. He didn't
make them. You know, he was damn close on that
first play. It was almost a pick six when they
almost Marcus Jones almost undercut it. To have the resiliency,
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the calm, cool, collectedness to make a couple of the
big time throws when guys were in his face in
the Super Bowl, I mean, he's he's a super Bowl
champion now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Julian Edelman, he's got a podcast called Games with Names,
new episodes every Tuesday. We wrapped a bow on it.
It's good seeing as always, Buddy. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Always great to see you.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, you can't really overreact. I agree with Julian. I
think the Patriots will be a better team and I'll
win ten games instead of fourteen next year, I said,
I think, I just think the AFC had a down
year and it's happened quarterback injuries. You pay all these
quarterbacks big money, the rosters get thin. I think New
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England's a playoff team next year. They feel more eleven
and six than what I saw this year. But can overreact.
I think when you start drafting, where they're going to
start drafting now, at the end of rounds, go get
a tackle, put some money on the old line. I'd
consider either drafting or spending for an edge rusher. But
I think they're in a pretty great space.
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Speaker 1 (12:07):
John Middlecoff with the news, This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Speaking of NFL coaching, the Chargers hired Mike McDaniel to
be their new offensive coordinator. Obviously spent the last four
seasons in Miami. He was spotted last night with his
new head coach, Jim They sat together at the Laker
game court side. What do you make of Mike McDaniel
and will he get the most out of Justin Herbert
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in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I think it's going to be a different looking team.
It's going to be more pass first. I think he
muses far more motion than his predecessor. So I think
the organization, they won't be quite as good without jesse Mentor.
But I felt this year it felt like survival mode.
I mean, they went eleven and six. It's remarkable. It
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felt like survival mode the entire season. And I still
would draft I mean, we had Daniel Jeremiah on the
other day, I would spend most of this draft edge rusher,
an offensive line interior. So I think I think there's
real clarity on what they need once you get the
quarterback and the coach right, you know. I think when
they when I think Mike McDaniel will elevate an offense
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that has felt hamstrung for several years. Even when they
had Alt as a rookie, he wasn't quite what he
is now. So I think they're gonna feel different next year.
I think they're gonna feel more dynamic offensively and maybe
a little less suffocating on defense.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
You know, early on when he got to Miami, it
was Tuah tyreek hill waddle the passing game. Over the
course of the last year and a half, when Tua
fell off a cliff, it was he was great at
calling runs. Imagine if he can get the run game
going with their young running back, take a little pressure
off Herbert. But let's face it, it's all gonna come
down to playoff games. He's owing three so far in
the playoffs. You know, the Chargers are gonna be in
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the playoffs. That's where Jim Harbaugh is every year. He's
gonna be judged on that performance. In early mid January, yep,
as we get closer to the new league year, the
Dolphins have a decision to make on they will need
to make and figure out what they're going to do
with Tua, you know. Speaking at a fan event, a
fan event recently, their new GM John Eric Sullivan was
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asked about to a status.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
I don't know what the future holes right now, and
I told to it that we're working through some things.
What I can tell you is that we're going to
in ferius competition.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
It to that road. Whether two is part of the room,
whether he's not part of the room too, and knows
where we are. You've been very honest and up front.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
We're getting close to a decision, and when we do,
you know, we'll we'll let two and know whether he's
going to be.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Part of this or not.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know, I mean, I don't have a problem.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I really don't have a problem with Tua. Play it
out for one more year. He's more than capable.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
If you want to draft somebody, you know, a Cade
Club Nick in the third or fourth round or what ever,
I mean, roll the dice on that. But I think
we all kind of look at Miami, a new GM,
a new coach. They're safe for a year. You want
to build a culture. Two is one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
John.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You can build a culture if not around him, include
him in it because he's a quality human being. But
that's the idea that he has a market. I don't
know what his market is, so you got to swallow it.
And i'd i'd I'd rather have two at a quarterback
and pay for it than be paying for it. He's
somewhere else. I mean, I I don't know. I just
I think you can draft a quarterback later, get a
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young guy in the building, because Tua does get hurt.
But I don't think he has much of a market.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, he has no market.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
You would have to attach picks to get someone, especially
when you factor in the money. You know, when you
go back a couple of years when Sean Payden got
rid of Russell Wilson, part of that was the personalities.
He didn't want Russell Wilson the building anymore. They wanted
to separate. They wanted a divorce of the personality. Like
you said, I mean Tua, he's got along with Mike McDaniel,
he got along with Nick Saban like he's he's taking
hard coaching. I do wonder, though, if you just want
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to pivot, eat the money, bottom out and maybe next year,
like they tried to do years ago with Flores, maybe
have the number one overall pick and reset the franchise.
To college football column where a report indicates an internal
Big Ten document has been exploring a potential twenty four
team playoff, offering a glimpse of what the model and
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bracket could look like. Here's our mockup based on last
season's final rankings.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, hmm, that's a lot of teams like Virginia needed
another game. The upside to this, because there's some negatives.
You'll hear there's eight buys there colin eight buys.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
That's a little extreme.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
The good news is it would make the committee less crucial.
Love that it would also include more teams. I mean,
there's one hundred and thirty five Division one. If this
only includes a small percentage, right, twenty four teams, people say, well,
it'd make the regular season less viable. John, I, this
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is interesting because I kind of monitored self monitored over
the last two years of the playoffs, because fans pushed
back and said, you know, I won't care as much
about the regular season. So I kind of monitored my consumption,
and I found myself watching as much during the regular
season and much more in the postseason. I stopped watching
a lot of these bowl games, so I watched all
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the big I watched all the games in the tournament
except one, one of the early ones with Tulane. I
watched all the tournament games, and I found myself watching
the same number of games on Saturday that I did,
and it includes more people. You know, the old way
in college football, by the second week of October, seventy
percent of the sport is not going to be playing
for the championship. So you know, it sounds like you
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said this sort of here. Twenty four sounds outrageous, and
it's probably more than today.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I love.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
But the best part about last year when I watched
Miami and Indiana John with the NIL transfer portal in playoffs,
it felt like the most NFL ish college football championship
I'd watched, and I thought it was a remarkable game.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
You know, Dan Landing mentioned this at the end of
last season that listen, if you want to go twenty
four teams, but approach it like the NFL. When the
NFL season ends the regular season, the playoffs are the
following week.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Dan was like, let's cut out.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
We can go more games, but start playing the moment
conference championship games that Saturday, the following weekend, first round
of the playoffs, and if you got twenty four teams,
you can string that out to early mid January.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
John. One of the things I think that this would
eventually do, it would get rid of the conference championship games,
which I think now are unnecessary. So again, this would
I think you'd get rid of that. I mean, do
we really need to see you know, Bama plays Texas
and they've already played. Here's a second time they could
play a third time in the playoff. Let's just here's
everything we agree on. The committee has too much power.
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None of us like that. We don't like that. I
think most people also agree. I don't need conference championships.
You're gonna play these teams in the playoff make the
games mean something. So I mean there's arguments on both sides.
Twenty four is kind of jarring because I was kind
of in a sixteen team. Fourteen sixteen team felt perfect
to me. But when you watch people labor over the
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committee and their rulings and their selections, it's like, I
don't want to talk about committees. I'm not interested in
that being a topic annually for days on end.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Well, if they don't go to twenty fourteens, they go
more like a sixteen eighteen. I think you could pivot
and you gotta listen to Adam Silver takes a lot
of crap, but the play in games. What if conference
championship weekend turns into more the SEC this year, so
instead of Bama Georgia, it's Texas Vandy the winner gets.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Into the playoffs? Is interesting? Yeah, you know the Big
Ten would be SC versus Iowa.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Whatever the matchup turns out to be, right, you win
that game because it's we got pretty lucky with the
Ohio State Indiana game that fell like an NFL game,
but you could start to feel like that's not that's
gonna be a rare occurrence. So do a playing game
situation for the major four conferences. Imagine if Utah played
BYU winner gets in, I mean we're all watching that thing.
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Instead it's BYU against Tech. Tech doesn't have much to
play for and they still kill them. It's not as intriguing.
So that's that's where I think we end up.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, good call, and uh John Middlecoff joining us today.
I appreciate that. In a Friday Jmax returns next week.
John Middlecoff with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, listen if you like college football, and I do.
I watched the same amount last year and the year
before that I did without the playoff. That I mean,
Saturdays are college football. I go to games. I like
watching games. That I mean. I'm I'm a us C homer, right,
I'm gonna watch all the games if they're on TV,
I'm watching the games. So nothing changed. I'm watching all
the big games. I'm watching USC games. I like watching
Notre Dame games. Michigan games. I'm watching the same number
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of games. It's not changing my consumption. And December was
way better than watching you know, the sun Bowl was
a big game, so I'm kind of for it. But
one of the things that's tedious is talking about the committee.
When's the last time you talked about a committee in
any walk of life and thought that was a day
well spent. I just I'm over committee discussions, like, I'm
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just done with that stuff. Get them out of it.
And if you extend the teams, nobody's arguing about twenty
four and twenty five like they're arguing about twelve and
thirteen in Chicago, it's the hurd.
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
Pretty remarkable night last night Lakers beat the Dallas Mavericks
lebron oldest player to have a triple double. And you
know I said before, is I kind of like my
star athletes to end clean tight. I don't want them,
you know, I don't want to see, uh was a
Patrick Ewing or somebody wearing a Raptor's jersey or something.
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You know, I don't love that. Ethan Strauss earlier today
on you know what Lebron, how he wraps up the career.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I'm not saying Lebron's motivated by money. He clearly has
a ton of money, but it has gotten to this
point column where you're walking away from you know, sixty
seventy million dollars a year. That's that's not nothing. I'd
expect him to at least do another year, get the
farewell tour. Lebron likes attention, that's my expectation. I think
it would be better and cleaner of be in it
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it now, like you said, but I think we're getting
at least one more season. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was Patrick Ewing was in an Orlando Magic jersey
and it was was it a team in a Raptor's jersey.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't like that, but you know, I do think
it points to a real truth going on in the NBA.
Is you know when they did that CBA, it created
parody and it also a lot of really really rich
guys at the top. And Lebron is still just you know,
in spurts. He's really really good. I went and watched
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him play in Chicago, and he first twelve minutes of
the game he's totally dominant, best player on the floor.
Again it was the bulls, So I think may be
worse now. I was talking earlier. I said, but I
don't view Lebron if you count everything stamina, free throw shooting, offense,
and defense. And I'll use the two and a half
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minutes to go tie game game seven of the finals.
Who do you want or a big playoff game? Top
ten And when I listed the top ten players, and
I never trusted Lebron a ton of the free throw line.
But he now doesn't have that late game stamina, and
he's not a defensive you know, stalwart like he used
to be. I would say Jokic best player in the world, SGA,
(23:51):
best clock shooter in the league, Wemby best defensive player,
and it's good on both ends. Kawhi when he's healthy,
remains get a bucket, get a stop with I mean,
all time greats. Steph remains incredibly accurate shooting three point
shots late in games. Kate Cunningham has become more aggressive
over the last couple of years. He is a tremendous
(24:13):
franchise player. Now you say to yourself, Colin, why is
Luca so low? In my take, is. I don't trust
his stamina. I've seen it die in playoff games. I
don't buy that he's in this great shape. And frankly,
he is a below average defensive player, so I can
get a bucket from him. Kate Cunningham could give me
(24:35):
a stop, and it's gonna give me a stop Kawhi.
Even Durant's a willing defender. Lucas not. I would say
nine Kevin Durant and ten Jalen Brunson. Again, I went
back and forth on Jalen Brunson and Lebron. I like
Jalen at the free throw line better than Lebron, and
because he's a younger athlete, probably has a little more stamina.
Although he's very ball centric, he can get worn down to.
(24:57):
I think Lucas a defensive liability. Brunt's was voted clutch
Player of the Year in the NBA last year. I
may have him low, but I'm not saying Lebron's not
a top twelve, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen player. But like
late game situations, we always knew he wasn't a great
free throw shooter, but he was dominant offensively beat anybody
he wanted to the rim. His three point shooting. He's
(25:21):
a bit streaky, but above average, and his stamina was
relentless until about last year. Year before now it's pretty
noticeable he has spurts. The most interesting comment of the day,
which I disagreed with from Ethan Strauss, I said, Okay,
you know, you know I love Sam Donald. Here was
(25:43):
Ethan Strauss's take on Sam Donald hoisting a Lobardi Trophy.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I think Sam Donald's average, and I think that's okay.
I think the lesson was Sam Donald is perhaps we
might even make too big a deal of the surrounding
weapons quarterbacks have on offense and not a big enough
deal about all the other help that allows him to win.
I think we saw this super Bowl, and I think
we saw it last Super Bowl with Jalen Hurts when
(26:10):
we were trying to make him out to be somebody
that he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
He was fine.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
And that's the lesson.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
In the NFL, you can win with a quarterback who's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay, John, let me ask you, a full ber NFL scout,
do you view Donald as fine?
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I view him as slightly better and fine, but there's
a clear gap between him. I mean, he had twenty
turnovers this year at one point. Now you know, relatively
new offense, he had played in it before. But is
he Mames when he's on Alan the Lamar we've seen
win MVP's burrow. But I think you know Herbert has
(26:46):
carried his team. When you play on a great team,
you know, Purty fell under this. You just the game
manager gets such a negative connotation. A lot of guys
have managed the game to wins, you know, in Super
Bowl trophies. So you had to be holding your breath
a little bit though. Was it the first or second
pass of the game. Oh, I was when it looks
like he almost wrote pick six and the guy who's
gonna jump on it?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Like if listen, I'm from the Pacific Northwest, but I
have I mean I was in the Northeast and Patriot
Country for years, so I really really respect Robert Kraft
in the organization. My take was, if Sam doesn't win,
I just don't want him to have two and three
and four turnovers. If he loses, he loses that. And
they were jumping routes like crazy because I think, honestly, John,
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I think they knew they weren't going to move the
ball much. I think I think those Rabel and Josh
knew we're not gonna have a ton of success. What
we have to do is force Sam to speed up
his game. He has a history of making mistakes and
getting frenetic and kind of getting into weird zones where
he tries to be a little bit of a hero.
He did that in college. Sometimes he did that. Certainly
(27:49):
Jets Carolina, so I think they were jumping routes. I
think they wanted to get into Darnold's head, force him
into a mistake and and you know, it's a game
inches that first one's picked. It could have I mean,
I think Seattle still overtime wins, but it could change
the play calling and the dynamics of the game. All right, John,
as always, buddy, great job, have a great weekend. All right,
(28:10):
I'll talk to you Sunday on the podcast. Ethan Strauss
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