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Nick Wright reacts to Game 4 of the NBA Finals and the 29-point comeback by Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks. Then, Nick breaks down what went wrong for Victor Wembanyama and the San Antonio Spurs during their second-half collapse. Finally, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright Episode four sixty six.
This episode of What's Right with Nick Wright is presented
to you by a boost Mobile, and we are fresh
off the heels of one of the greatest games in
the history of the NBA, one of the greatest collapses
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in the history of major American sports, one of the
wildest sporting events that I have ever watched. There are
you could do a twelve hour podcast on this game
and not adequately cover everything. We will do our best
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to cover it over the next hour or so. Here
also a few programming notes. From now through the end
of the World Cup, our episodes will be coming out
around owned this time in the day. We will go
to a late afternoon East Coast early afternoon West coast
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timeline because the TV show is on from ten am
to noon every day, so that is a programming note.
The other programming note, Tomorrow's show will be a lot
of World Cup Team USA and general World Cup preview,
along with a Game five preview, And if the Knicks
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wrap this thing up in five on Saturday, we might
do an episode on that'll come out Monday rather than Tuesday.
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If you subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, or and or YouTube demandsday,
good morning, how are you? You are adopted Spurs fan?
I guess good evening, afternoon. I just get a little
demond say, I get a little robotic on certain things
(02:13):
doing the pod, like I think the time I'm gonna
say good morning. I did it with Ty Butler last
week twice I kept calling yeah, I kept yeah, and
so the I just you know, I get a little
bit of autopiloted. You are an adopted Spurs fan. Yes, you,
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at least I think that's for me. Say what they
have going on as a whole? Yeah, so how are you?
How are you doing this afternoon? Oh? That that was rough?
That was rough.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that is a big that's
a big collapse. And yeah, shout out to the Knicks. Though,
I'm really happy for the Knicks some of their fans
that do think need to chill out a little bit
around the world and then why but.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It is a very very to me likable team, the Knicks,
those players, and it is such a team. And josh
Hart earnestly and honestly saying thank you og An Andobi
for saving me from basically a lifetime of heartache and
pain was very real. And josh Hart was emotional after
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the game, not in a we one way, but in
a I almost cost my team. It's that that to
me was deeper than I almost cost my team that
that would if they would have lost that game. That
was the type of I think, whether he was thinking
this consciously or not, it was a I almost defined
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my entire basketball life. There are certain plays that just
will be, you know, our remembered as who you are,
fair or not, because they're so they stand out in
history and they're so important. And so now instead of
that play defining potentially as basketball life, it's something that
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will be forgotten by most people within days. It's really remarkable.
So we'll get all into the game, every angle of
it in just a moment. First strate the voicemail brought
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not have his dog with him courtside at the game.
Do not believe the picture you're seeing on the internet.
Taylor Swift sits court sided MSG. People got mad, I
guess because everybody gets mad at Taylor and Mexico South.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
As the Calves a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So it was just like, wow, it's a little bit
of a streak. Can I defend Taylor's swift for a moment?
It does appear she has a history of being a
Knicks fan, but her soon to be husband is a
die hard Calves fan and is from there. So it
is you know, like, this isn't there teams? I don't
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think so. The two teams she has been seen rooting
for are is a team in the Knicks that she
was seen rooting for twelve fifteen years ago, and her
husband's favorite team or soon to be. So that part
I understand more than if she was all of a
sudden wearing a Spurs jersey, that would have been you know,
that would have been something. And Mexico leads South Africa
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in the first game of the World Cup at halftime
actually live right now, all right, demons? The Knicks come back,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Amazing game last night Showtime. I guess didn't start off amazing.
The Spurs were leading by twenty nine points to at
one point and managed to give that up, so they
gave up the upset. On the other hand, the Knicks
were down twenty nine and clawed back. How do you
think that you remember this as a comeback or a collapse?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I am sorry to be take the I guess glass
half empty side of this, but in sports there are
comebacks and in sports there are collapses. Twenty eight to three,
which is what this is being compared to in the
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Super Bowl, was a comeback. Atlanta made a few mistakes,
but Atlanta wasn't turning the ball over left and right.
Atlanta was not making an error after error. There are
things they could have done well better, But that was
Tom Brady, Julian Edelman and the New England Patriots coming back.
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Once upon a time, the Chiefs were down twenty four
to nothing in the second quarter of a playoff game
and had the lead at halftime thanks to a collapse
by the Texans. The Texans, with the lead, fumbled a kickoff,
faked a punt, kicked a terrible field goal, did everything
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wrong you can do. That was a collapse. The San
Antonio Spurs collapsed in epic historic fashion. And there is
there are supporting actors in the collapse, and then there
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is the main character of the collapse. Supporting actor in
the collapse, Mitch Johnson, who froze, who flatly didn't seem
to recognize what was happening and didn't realize he was
one of the only people in the building who could
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prevent it from happening. He watched a twenty nine point
lead get whittled down to a fifteen point lead in
the third quarter, only used one timeout, then watched a
fifteen point lead, No, a twenty point lead, pardon me,
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get whittled because they were up fifteen going into the fourth,
and then added five points so the Spurs were up
twenty with nine and a half minutes left. Watched a
twenty point lead, get whittled to a four point lead,
and on. During that section of the game, only used
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one timeout and just seemed to be stunned at what
was happening and did I don't know the analogy for it,
but I feel like I can describe a feeling a
lot of people can relate to which is when something
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disastrous is happening, but the actual you're just trending towards
a disastrous outcome, but you might be able to avoid it.
That sense of well maybe the faster we go, the
better it'll be. Like the it felt to me like
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he didn't want to acknowledge it. Watching it, it felt
like he thought, if I call time out, I'm validating
that this is happening. And if I don't, then I
can just it'll pretend that I feel like everything's gonna
be fine, and it will correct itself. And it never
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corrected itself. So he was a supporting actor in the collapse.
De Aaron Fox, who is getting torched today for taking
that layup, is a supporting actor in the collapse. Now,
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you cannot, after you get the loose ball with fifteen
seconds left, shoot that layup unless you're certain you're going
to make it. That is a grievous error. Okay. With
that said, the idea that he was going if he
hadn't done that, he could have dribbled out the clock
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or something is utter nonsense. He shot the layup with
twelve seconds left. The Knicks got the loose ball with
ten seconds left. I it was he was. He could
have burnt a little more clock and then he would
have had to hit some free throws. Obviously, that was
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a bad, bad play by him, But he is also
getting torched for doubling Brunson on the very next play
when I believe that was a coaching point. I don't
think he freelanced there. I think that's what the play
was designed to do. And by the way, it created
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a mishot. But they didn't have a body on og. Obviously,
Dearon Fox screwed up. He had some bad turnovers. The
layup was bad. Obviously, he is the veteran leader, the
highest paid guy on the team and should have been better.
But he is a supporting actor in the collapse. The
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main character of the San Antonio Spurs collapse is the
only guy it can be, the guy who's supposed to
be the best player in the world. And in the
second half of that game, after trash talking and what
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the kids would call or a farming and letting everyone
know how in his head, how in their head he was,
he went three for fourteen, looked absolutely winded, and in
a fourth quarter where Stefan Castle, who's younger than him,
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went eight for eight from the free throw line, and
Dylan Harper, who's younger than him, went two for two
from the free throw line. He went one for four,
including two misses in the final one hundred seconds up
one of a finals game.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That doesn't circle back to Mitchetal like with Wimby being
in the game and being gassed, like they had that
huge lead, he could have taken some rest and there
were there were there were opportunities throughout the game for
him to get rest, and he didn't at the end
like he ate it up tired.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Absolutely accurate, that's accurate. That is it is crazy that
Mitch Johnson didn't find him more than three. In the
first half, he played twenty one of twenty four minutes.
They were up at halftime twenty seven points. That seems crazy.
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In the third quarter, he played eleven of twelve minutes.
They were up twenty nine at one point in that quarter.
That seems crazy. And in the fourth quarter, obviously he
played the whole time even though they were up twenty
with nine and a half minutes left. That also, that
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was a screw up by the coach. I understand that,
but fatigue is not why he missed those free throws.
He missed those free throws. I mean, I'm sure maybe
it contributed, but he got tight and that second free
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throw didn't even look like his form, like he let
the ball go weird. And then it looked Wilde's pointed
this out and he was right. It looked a lot
like how he shot the potential game winning jump shot
where he fell and was in Game two and he's
just kind of like hoping for it to go in.
It is they were. He was playing unbelievably. He had
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thirteen points in the first quarter. He's living in the paint.
And then Mitch Johnson classic one by me Chin checks him.
Dirty play, flagrant it should be called, and Wimby does.
Wimby first taunted him on the way up the court,
which is what made Mitch lose his temper, and he
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hits him, and then Wimby sits up clapped points in
his head, and from that moment forward was bad. That
go ahead. Demontsey looked like, you want to say something.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh no, no, no, Mitchell Robinson, but yeah, you that's
when you think they can.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh did I say, Mitch Johnson, Yeah, Mitch Johnson's coach.
Mitch Johnson didn't elbow him. Mitch rob Thank you, Mitchell Robinson.
I so that was a massive moment in the game.
The other one was the moment. And this was unlike
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a lot of the Wimby stuff these playoffs. This was unlucky,
This was unintentional. This was just basketball. But it happens.
The flagrant he committed was the start of the Knicks comeback.
When he committed that flagrant foul, the Spurs had just
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gotten their biggest lead of the game, up twenty nine.
It was eighty one fifty two with twenty one and
a half minutes left in the game. So it's eighty
one fifty two when Wimby commits that flagrant. The rest
of the game the Knicks Outscoes san Antonio. That's unbelievable.
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Fifty five to twenty five. Now, was it because of
the Wimby flagrant? No, I don't think so. Do I
think Wimby played a little more hesitantly after that? I do?
Do I think it was in his head a little bit, Yeah,
because he knew that if I get another flagrant this game,
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I'm ejected and I'll be suspended. But probably the league
would just rescind one of them. But regardless, but you
can't my opinion this that game they came best player
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in the A Live title. I'm sorry you can't you
here right now because let's talk about the Well, Mitch
Johnson should have known better than to play him forty
four minutes. Okay, but that makes it then harder for
you to be the best player alive if you're not
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able to at twenty two years old, give me more
than fifteen awesome minutes in that game, because that's what
he gave you. He gave you fifteen awesome minutes and
then was laboring the rest of the way. And this
series has shined a again. He is one of the
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best players in the league, going to be one of
the greatest players ever. But this series has shined a
spotlight demons on three pretty obvious flaws in his gaming.
Need to work on one and this my guy Lebron
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the seven Finals shined a spotlight on doesn't trust his
jump shot. If you dare him to beat you with
a jump shot, he just can't do it. At this
point in his career, he was twenty two and it
took him a while, by the way, to develop a
jump shot. He won multiple league MVPs before he developed
a reliable jump shot. Wimby to me, demnse tell me
if you think this is fair. Has three very apparent
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holes in his game. One conditioning, conditioning he needs, he
needs to and I blame the Spurs more than him.
They need to ramp him up over the course of
the season. Two physical strength, yes, he just can't. He
just gets pushed around. And three and this is the
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biggest reason I'm saying he vacated best player alive. A
goat one, just one go to offensive move, because what
I am very comfortable in saying is if Nikola Jokic,
or Shay or Luca or Jannie or hell Jalen Brunson
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or a lot of these guys, forget the guys eligible
to be best player in the world, just literally any
other consensus top ten player. If their team was in
the midst of a thirty point collapse and a thirty
point half themselves of scoring, you know what their coach
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would be able to do, Call time out and draw
up a play to get a bucket from guy, Go
get us a bucket, Go stop the bleeding, and the
only play I feel like Mitt Johnson feels like you
can draw up for Wenby to guarantee a bucket is
an alley oop lobb to the rim. So and here's
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the last thing, and then we'll get more into the
nitty gritty of the game. And I do want to
talk about the Knicks brilliance of it. Three finals losses
for Wimby so far and the Spurs three really rough
and they've been escalating in my opinion. In Ah, I'm
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gonna remember that gravity Game one, the least egregious down
for fifty five seconds left, dribbles it off his foot.
Nicks pick it up, take it out. Brunton hits the dagger.
It happens. You know, you just but he did just
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dribble it off his foot. Game one, Game two really bad.
If the first one was a you know, a class
E mystermeanor this is like a class B felony. Throws
it off Castle's back again. As much as we're killing
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Fox for time score situation, Wimby had the ball with
twelve seconds same as Fox. Tie game. No need to rush,
you have overtime in your pocket if you want it.
Throws it off Castles back, then fouls Bronson. And then
last night the thing that folks have spoke into existence,
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begging what happen one time throughout Lebron's career, but literally
never has huge spot in the playoffs, goes to the
free throw line, misses both, and the team loses because
of it. Those I can't remember the last time a
Finals game turned on missed free throws by a star
(21:57):
since the Ray Allen game when Man who went one
of two and Kawhi who wasn't a star yet went
one of two, which allowed the Caves to come back
from six down. I'm sorry the heat in the final
thirty seconds. So you add to all of that, the
(22:20):
all the we're built for this ethical basketball, sophistic The
Knicks don't play a sophisticated style of game, all of
this stuff that we've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I they've been right there, though, is the killer Like
I do think that they have been built for it?
Does get to a point, yeah, I mean you hit
free throws. I mean you miss free throws at the end.
Are you built for it? I guess? But at the
same time, I think this is they've been defeating themselves.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Kind of makes it worse. It's not it. It's not
we had no shot, They've had a lead, in the
final two minutes of all four games, and they have
not executed. And this one was there have been twelve
this here's a fun stat. Prior to last night, there
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were twenty two Finals games where a team was up
twenty at halftime. Twenty or more. Those teams were twenty
two to zero, with an average margin of victory of
twenty one, and the smallest margin of victory was eleven.
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Every single team in the history of the Finals who
was up twenty at halftime, not only one blew their
opponent out. Here's here's another one, and well, this other
one's more of a knickstat, so I'll save it for them.
I young team, young team.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's young stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
One.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
But it's also, yeah, you can't be. Here's what I
here's all I'm gonna see what I'm saying. It can't be.
This team might be a dynasty. This guy might end
up being the greatest player of all time. And he's
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already the best player in the league when he plays great.
And when you go three for fourteen after telling the
other team you're in their head to fall down three
to one and blow a twenty nine point lead, be
as young that and the and the coach screwed up.
That to me is I won't personally abide. There was
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team was the Knicks. We'll get to them in just
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Speaker 1 (26:58):
Before we get to the Nick demanse two very quick
little gambling stories, okay. One a good friend of mine
who will remain anonymous, who is as as a high
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high roller like just as they're the outside of probably Macau.
There really aren't many people in the world that gamble
larger than he does, and is a mainstay right behind
celebrity row at Knicks games and has been one of
the guys traveling via private jet to all of the
(27:47):
road games doing the whole thing. Yesterday he took his
family to the game with a game and the best
seats you can get that aren't celebrity rows. So whatever
a handful of those tickets cost he's spent, I think
(28:10):
what he's spent on the tickets he bet on the
Knicks minus two? Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, but I don't even I'm not even saying I
mean again, the guys he's gonna be, he's got he
does very very long life. But my point is, I
you are a die hard Knicks fan. You are for it,
get the comeback, and you know your family is celebrating,
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and then somewhere in your head you're like, oh my god,
this game called the tickets plus the bet plus this plus,
So there there's one. There's one story. I mean, that's
a tough one. That's It's one of the reasons I
am a big, big believer in if I'm attending a
sporting event, I'm only betting the money line of the
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team i'm pulling for. You're like, I'm if they're the favorite,
I'm paying the juice and betting the money line, and
if they're the underdog, I'm getting the plus money and
betting the money line. Because you don't want like if
you're rooting for a team and you're at a game
and they're getting say they're getting uh two and a half, no,
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the three and a half, pardon me, and they're down
three with five seconds left with the ball and you
bet them plus three and a half, you don't want
to find yourself like somewhere in your head, like rooting
for them to miss the overtime. Forcing three, like if
you're the building, yeah you want to a right yeah.
So one other before you get to the knickt gambling story.
(29:53):
This one I will not have people remain anonymous. My
dear buddy Nacho, who I talk about a lot. The
Poe ok great, not Joe Barbaro. He and I have
been texting each other World Cup bets and finals bets
all week and I text him yesterday, but he's somewhere
in Europe, I think right now. I text him yesterday
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because he asked me who I had, and I said, oh,
I'm I'm all over Nick's money line, which is what
I had yesterday. So it was one of the greatest bet,
one of the craziest wins ever. He's in Europe, so
it's a different time. He doesn't respond to me after
I text him that. So the game, once the Knicks
(30:37):
are around like twenty, I text him, I'm like hey,
I'm like I'm glad you didn't see this and you
didn't bet it too, And at halftime he finally reaches
out and he's like no, no, no, He's like, I had
already bet the Knicks before you had texted, and I'm like,
oh my god, well we're both ruined here. Then the
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Knicks start, the Knicks are coming back. We're texting each other.
You know, this is insane. Can't believe we're alive. Blah
blah blah. And then the Knicks win and I text
him after the game, like the little like sell it,
like the bottle popping emojis, or the celebration all the
celebration emojis, congrats all of it, and he just dryly
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writes back, I had minus two. Good, Like it's like
I didn't not not your old buddy Nick. Great, we
had to. That was a tough one. Oh yeah, it's
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a really yeah, really a brutal one. Really a brutal,
brutal spot. I want to see did he send me
a voice memo. He's a big voice memo guy. Oh
hold on, oh no, But so this is the just
to give it. I just want to again, I want to
paint the picture for the audience, because all this guy
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does is play poker and best sports. He texts me
prior to this, and then we'll get to the game.
I just think you guys will like it. He kept
telling me to go He always says go all in,
telling me to go all in on the the Stanley Cup,
the Knights in Game one, the Las Vegas Knights, and
(32:30):
I don't you guys know, I don't follow hockey. I'm
not into it. They won in historic fashion, and I
get in the middle of the night this text. So
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I just can't believe. I needled that I needled my
dear friend. I felt so bad. All right, let's talk
about the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Would have been easy for the for the Knicks to
waiver early. Cat came out with two fouls. The Spurs
made the most threes and a half in Finals history,
but nobody would have blamed them for packing it in.
But they came back, got it done. Brunson said, one
word captures at all believe. And so New York has
pulled off some crazy comebacks this year. But did you
see this one happening at any point?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So first, let me go to the cat early fouls.
I thought they were tough calls. The first one I
hated to see. It probably was a foul, but you
just hate that forty five seconds into the game. The second,
the one that the Spurs challenged and got overturned. I
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was stunned was overturned and turned into a foul on cat.
I could have seen them chat like it being overturned,
no foul on Wimby. I was stunned. It was turned
into a foul on cat and that, obviously for a
time being, looked like it was, you know, the key
moment of the game. The Knicks all of a sudden
(34:05):
are playing Jeremy Sohan and Hock Porty and everything is
thrown off. Mitch Robinson's dying out there, but more relevant
was this demons. I felt like the Knicks. I felt
like the first half of yesterday's game was one of
the first times we've ever seen the Twitter algorithm maybe
(34:27):
swing a Finals game. Because here is my here's my
theory on it. And I said it after Game three
because I thought the officiating in game two was egregious.
I thought the officiating in Game three was not great,
but wasn't the reason the Knicks lost. But Mike Brown
talked about it, and then it became the huge story
(34:48):
and all it's all Knicks fans could talk about. I
think because some of that was Twitter algorithm. The building
was so caught up in the officiating immediate that it
felt to me like the Knicks got caught up in
the officiating and weren't playing their game even though their
free throw in the first half. Knicks fans are just
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beside themselves were the first half officiating. In the first half,
the Spurs shot six free throws and the Knicks shot
twenty three, and Knicks fans were livid with the refs
just over there and listen, they did miss the goaltend,
but I would have missed that too, because I also
thought that that was a lob by Alverado, not uh
Jo it looked like but yeah, no, I'm saying it.
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It didn't look like a lob on the replay for me.
I'm just saying, in real time, I thought he was
throwing theob to Mitchell Robinson. No, I in real time,
I thought it was a lob. But regardless, so the
Knicks got right or wrong. The officiating stuff really distracted
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the Knicks in the first half and threw them off
and Cat like Cat's foul trouble was a Jit problem.
But then I just think they got too caught up
in that. So that's first thing. Second thing is and
this is such a testament to the Knicks. I'm not
(36:15):
gonna act like I thought they were in good shape
down twenty seven, but at no point did I think, well,
this is just dead and done over. And the moment
the so the Spurs get up twenty nine, Wimby commits
(36:40):
that unlucky flagrant, and then the Knicks go on the
only real run they went on the whole game. Other
than this thing I'm about to show you here, the
best run the Knicks had was eight to zero. They
didn't go on some insane elongated run except for down
twenty nine, they went on a thirteen nothing run to
(37:03):
cut it to sixteen. That was the stage of the
game that Barkley was just killing the Spurs, because the
Spurs shots during that thirteen oh run were Kelton Johnson
miss on the inside and miss tipping. Then Champenni missed
(37:27):
three seven seconds into a shot clock, Harper missed three
at the end of the shot clock. Uh, Dearn Fox turnover,
the cell missed three twelve seconds into the shot clock,
Kelton Johnson missed three eleven seconds into the shot clock,
Fox missed three late in the shot clock. Uh. And
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then Dylan Harper turnover. And that's that and the Knicks
all of a sudden are down sixteen. It was those
five threes in a row. It was seven possessions of
five threes and two turnovers that let the Knicks back
in it. As soon as that happened, Demonse I thought
(38:12):
they were alive. I was like, okay, Like fifteen is
nothing for this team. I really felt that way. And
it is noteworthy that last night was the fifth time
in the last two years the Knicks have been down
twenty in a playoff game, and one the rest of
(38:34):
the league over the last two years. Demonse went down
twenty in a playoff game is four and sixty seven.
The Knicks are five and three. It's unbelievable. So that's
the Then let me add to it, because they were
down fifteen at the end of the third, but then
(38:59):
at the start of the fourth the Spurs bar on
a five zero run and got up twenty. How about this.
As of three weeks ago, since two thousand and three,
there had been two fourth quarter playoff fourth quarter twenty
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point comebacks in the playoffs in the As of three
weeks ago, there had been two twenty plus point playoff
fourth quarter comebacks in the last twenty three years in
the NBA. The Knicks have done it twice in the
last month. Down twenty in the fourth quarter of a
(39:43):
playoff game, there was there. There was one in like
twenty twelve, one in twenty fourteen, both in the first round.
The Knicks were down twenty two with seven and a
half left to the Cavs and down twenty with nine
and a half left in the finals in the swing
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game of the finals. And what they did, and this
is where I want to give them all the credit.
Here's how they came back. Demons down twenty nine and
a half left Alvarado three, bridges lay up Towns three.
That was the Town three where he almost could have
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got called for an offensive foul, kind of kicked his
leg out and fell. So it's just a little eight
to zero run, all right. So now they're down twelve.
Then Castle goes to the line, hits a couple free throws,
so it's fourteen. Then Og hits the three. Was it
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the I think it was the three, I'm not sure
which one it was, the one where he got the
bounce pass or not. Og hits a three and then
Towns and this was the moment I thought that I
thought the Knicks are gonna fucking win this game. When
Town's got the ball in the corner, Pump faked, got
Wimby up a little bit, then drove on him, got
(41:07):
to the basket and kind of fell back and shot.
They're down nine with six and a half left, and
I'm like, oh that, I think they're gonna win. They're
down nine, there's plenty of time. Then two more Castle
free throws, so it's eleven. Then it's brunts and free throws.
Brunson layup OG three. This this OG three was the
(41:30):
one where he got the pass. It was like kind
of a soft pass that bounced to him. He had
to regather it in the corner. He hits it. Now
they're down four and there's four and a half minutes left. Finally, mercifully,
Mitch Johnson's like, you know what, let's talk about it.
Time out, time out, and they come out and to
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his credit, fox three. So like that was a you
know that huge play down seven. Alverado does the little
spin move in the lane, gets the layup down five,
Wimby comes back, hits the only jump shot hits. I
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think the whole second half that eighteen footer up seven. Okay,
we're fine. Alverado, Jose Alverado, who they got at the
deadline for two second round picks, who had played zero
playoff minutes with Jalen Brunson. They had had zero minutes together.
It's I and Brunson. In fourth quarter, Bridges benched Alverado three.
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Next time down the court, Brunton hits the three on Wimby,
which was a unbelievable play, Wimby guarding him. Now it's
a one point game. Then Fox turnover, Josh Hart miss layup.
Oh my god, how did that happen? And then Og
(43:05):
fouls Wimby and Wimby goes to the line, misses them both.
Brunton comes down himself, has the little kind of fancy
footwork in the lane, scores and they're ahead. And then Castle,
to his credit, makes the free throws. And we've talked
about the end of the game. I guess we had.
(43:26):
You know what we haven't really talked about. I guess
the fucking Og Tippett. Yeah, it's been forty minutes. I
I I mean, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
You said that OGI will get a statue in front
of the MSG for this game if they win. But
do you think that he'll also get finals MVP. He's
at plus three hundred right now. Brunson is at minus
one sixty. I kind of hinted at this in the
last part and yeah, you think.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
You were talking about it at forty to one.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, no, I think I mean, and do you see
I'm not trying to like bag On Brunson. I know
you like, don't have to dim to Brighton. But yeah,
without Og and Andobi, what are they in this series?
And without Jalen Brunson? Where they in the series? Is
it the same thing? Are they both at the same value?
I think Og at this point is the more valuable
player to the team.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
So I disagree that he's the more valuable player because
Brunson has been I mean even yesterday he scores five
straight points to give them the lead in the final
two minutes. He is the engine of their offense. Okay,
you can argue OG's been better in this series. But
to answer your question, what are they without either one
of them? They just got swept. Yeah, like the so
(44:37):
the in that regard, but that Og tip in. Yeah,
what I said was I if the Knicks win the title,
I think they should invent the first ever dual statue
(45:00):
where on one side of the statue is Og with
I think with his left hand blocking dearn Fox and
then if you go to the other like it's it's
two OG's that share a back essexually, and on the
(45:22):
other side of the statue is Og with his right
hand doing the tipping the It's there are It's the
(45:42):
biggest shot in the NBA this decade. I think the
single biggest shot this decade was the Kawhi game winner,
like the Yeah, Toronto Kawhi Game seven game winner. I
think that's the biggest shot since twenty sixteen. This is
(46:03):
now bigger and it can go toe to toe with
Again they're different, but the Kyrie shot, it doesn't. The
Ray Allen shot is in a separate category only because
if he misses the season so it didn't win. It
(46:23):
didn't win the game, but they were down three. It
if he misses the sea, the championship's over, you know.
So like that shot was definitionally too, if he misses it,
a different team wins the title. And so this one
we don't know. If Og doesn't get this, it's still
to two, but it is the execution on it the instincts,
(46:48):
the athleticism, the burst, the finesse, the touch, it's just
as good as it gets. So if he is the
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
No, I mean he went untouched, which it was a crazy,
crazy part. I feel like somebody should have been on him.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And so people are blaming Fox for that. But I
and I we don't know. If Fox freelanced, if he
wasn't supposed to double, then that's a grievous error. It
looked to me like that was the play call and Brunson.
This is one of the reasons, if you remember Demons
end of Game two, we were critical about the Spurs
(47:25):
for taking too long down one. Remember Fox just dribbled
for a minute and then Wimby shot at the buzzer.
They the knicks went immediately, which allowed for if Brunton
had waited, then the tip in can't.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Happenin the Brunson where he took this shot and dragging
Wimby out to the three point line, I think also
helped Ognanobi because it honestly was not a great shot.
Was not a great shot, but it gave his guys
a chance to go in there and make something of it.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
It wasn't a great shot. But I thought it was
going in. I just tell you right now, I thought
it was going in for real. It was all nine.
I thought it was going in, all right. I do
want to talk about a different tip in the in
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(49:52):
the og tip in the Spurs final play.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, uh so, I forgot who's in bounding it, but
it looked when I saw it, like time, it kind
of seemed like it didn't go where it was supposed
to go. But yeah, Cat got his hand on the
ball and Castle had to wrestle around with it, couldn't
get a shot up.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
And the thing is this that the scorekeeper screwed up
because the clock, since Cat started late, the spot should
have started right then. Luckily that didn't matter. That would
have been awful. Yeah, It's an unbelievable play by Cat
(50:30):
because Castle had broken free. Yes, Nicks, the Knicks understandably thought, Uh,
they're gonna go to Wimby. Either they're gonna throw a
lob to Wimby or what I thought they were going
to do. Is the one thing that you would have
(50:52):
simply been at the mercy of is he gonna make it?
If they just throw a high inbound to Wimby near
the top of the key, He's gonna catch and shoot.
That's what I thought we were getting. I thought it
was gonna be the opportunity for the Wimby redemption.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I mean, with him being gassed. Bless you, that probably
was a smarter play.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Dude was tired. But instead Wimby was the decoy. Castle
broke free, and I don't know what would have happened,
but you're absolutely right. The pass was well short because
Towns just barely got his fingertips on it. And it
(51:35):
is a all time moment, just an all time moment
to and it's the only way you can have that
type of finish, the only way you can have that
that type of comeback is for every little break to
(51:58):
go your way alone along the way and for everybody
to do something for it. And listen, McHale Bridges, here's
the other thing that where I want to give the
Nicks a ton of credit. Mikal Bridges did not play
very well and got benched in the fourth quarter. Towns
(52:23):
was out of rhythm all game because of the foul trouble,
only took five shots and Josh Hart it smoked, you know,
a layup to take the lead, and they won anyway.
And we're going to do most of our Game five
(52:44):
preview in tomorrow's episode, but a lot of the conversation
here is what does you know how will the Spurs
recover from this? And what I don't know if people
(53:06):
are incorporating enough into, is not what that type of
loss does to the Spurs, but what type of what
that type of win does for the Knicks as far
as their belief in this series. Now, I do want
to ask you this question, Demansey before we move on,
(53:29):
because Draymond alluded to this on the postgame show. Should
the Spurs be worried at all that this loss has
a effect greater than this series, that this is a
loss that rattle next year? Yeah, just carry like this
(53:52):
is a loss that resonates for more than this season.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I do think, I do know. I think it's a fear,
but I think it also how you come into game
five and how they do their I think you can
kind of erase this, but it kind of it's a
twenty nine point deficit.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
You can't erase it over one game.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
But I do think that they could get to start
deal better about themselves that soon on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I think the only way to erase it is to
win the title personally, because now if you don't win
the title, fair or not, people are just gonna be
like Game two, we had the ball, we threw it away.
In Game four, were up twenty nine points. I I
just I hear are the things I wonder that I
am just this is you know, this is not hot
(54:49):
take broadcasting. This is just but honest curiosity. I wonder
how this game affects how the Spurs view May Johnson.
I wonder that, and I think that is a fair question.
I wonder how this game impacts how the young guys
(55:12):
on the Spurs view de Aaron Fox. I wonder that,
and I think that's a fair question. And I wonder
how the now three game ending screw ups near the
end of game. Screw ups by Wimby affect Wimby's belief
(55:34):
of I was built for this. Those are open ended
one like it. It could simply be you know, all
the guys are like man, Foxes are Vet. We wouldn't
be here without him, no problem. Mitch Johnson learns from it.
And this is the scene in the movie. You know,
this is Rocky one for Wimby, of Rocky losing to
(55:58):
steal line from Simmons, you know, and losing Topollo. Creed
is about to come back better than ever. It's certainly
on the board, but this is we can't Here's what
I don't want to do. I don't want to overreact
to this, but we can't say that is the greatest
comeback in the history of the NBA Playoffs, the biggest
(56:18):
collapse in the history of the NBA Finals, and not acknowledge.
So that might stick to some guys. There might be
a lingering, longer effect on it. And it is I've
just never seen anything quite like it. A few more
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The only other, even semi noteworthy thing is if the
Spurs extend this series. And again, I don't expect the
league demands to ever actually punish Wimby for anything, but
it is noteworthy that thing we talked about about the
flagrant foul points unless they have rescinded, and I wouldn't
(57:43):
put it past them to rescind it on him. But uh,
I mean it was gonna be going.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
They were like, we just got to give them a flavorant,
but that wasn't flavoring.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
But I mean it was yeah, technically yes, technically yes exactly,
And I understand we want there to be separate rules
for some reason for women, it was it was.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
An unlucky flagrant. But that's how that works. Sometimes we
can say we would like I would be fine with
by the way, I would be absolutely fine with demonse them,
said them having a third category of flagrant fouls and
(58:27):
call them flagrant zeros. Yeah, because we have flagrant and
those are the same just like flagrant one and flagrant
two have the in game as whether you get a
flagrant one or a flagrant two, the other team is
getting two free throws in the ball. The difference is
(58:49):
that I would be fine with them adding flagrant zero,
which is still two free throws in the ball, but
no for the play correct and I would say landing
zone flagrance and the one like Wimby got where everyone
(59:09):
knows that was an accident, like those should be flagrant
zeros and it shouldn't add your flagrant foul points. But
that's not how they have the rules written. Like, I
think that would be a fair adjustment. But and but
also guess what if if that were the case. He's
(59:32):
supposed to already have flat and so the I wonder
how much that's going to impact him. And I also
I just think he is and I made this point
a ton yesterday on TV. Victor Wominyama has not had
(59:54):
consecutive excellent games this entire higher postseason. His best games
of the playoffs. I'm gonna go through them just very quickly.
And this to me is the fatigue thing. This is
the he's just not ramping up enough. First game of
(01:00:15):
the playoffs thirty five points, unbelievable. The next game is
the game he got the concussion. How so you're not
gonna hold that against him obviously as far as the performance.
But in that game he suffered the concussion de monse
halfway through the second quarter. Up to that point he
(01:00:37):
had made one shot. He was not having a huge game.
The The next great game Victor win Minyama had in
these playoffs was Game three against Minnesota thirty five and
fifteen or thirty nine and fifteen with five blocks. The
game after that was the game he got thrown out,
(01:01:00):
but again that was midway through the second quarter. He
had made two shots, he had four points and was frustrated.
The next great game he had was the first game
back after he got thrown out, when he had twenty
seven seventeen and five. The game right after that the
(01:01:20):
closeout game against Minnesota nineteen points. Game one of the
Conference finals the game of his life, forty one and
twenty four. He doesn't have another great game until Game four.
He followed with his thirty three and eight. Then Game
five of that series was the game where he had
(01:01:43):
one field goal a quarter, was four for fifteen from
the floor. Game six unbelievable, twenty eight and ten and
didn't even have to play that much. Game seven the
team was dominant. He didn't do much at all. He
had twenty two and seven this series. He was spectacular
in Game three, absolutely ran out of gas in Game four.
(01:02:05):
He's yet too in his playoff career have consecutive great games,
and the Spurs are about to need him to have
three in a row. I don't think that bodes well.
We will do a Game five and the rest of
the series. Preview for Friday's episode also credit to me.
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One game of the World Cup one exact score correct
two nil Mexico over South Africa Classic Category one by
me World Cup sharp Nick Wright. Uh, you know what,
I'm gonna go ahead and add something for you here
(01:02:49):
because that the late game is South Korea Checchia one
one draw. I'm predicting a draw one one draw for
the late night game. That's why I think it's gonna happen.
One draw. Uh but yeah, good job by me. I'm
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very happy about that. All Right, we'll do a game
five and a full uh you know, end of finals
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Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright Episode four sixty six.
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If you subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, or and or YouTube demandsday,
good morning, how are you? You are adopted Spurs fan?
I guess good evening, afternoon. I just get a little
demond say, I get a little robotic on certain things
(02:13):
doing the pod, like I think the time I'm gonna
say good morning. I did it with Ty Butler last
week twice I kept calling yeah, I kept yeah, and
so the I just you know, I get a little
bit of autopiloted. You are an adopted Spurs fan. Yes, you,
(02:33):
at least I think that's for me. Say what they
have going on as a whole? Yeah, so how are you?
How are you doing this afternoon? Oh? That that was rough?
That was rough.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that is a big that's
a big collapse. And yeah, shout out to the Knicks. Though,
I'm really happy for the Knicks some of their fans
that do think need to chill out a little bit
around the world and then why but.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It is a very very to me likable team, the Knicks,
those players, and it is such a team. And josh
Hart earnestly and honestly saying thank you og An Andobi
for saving me from basically a lifetime of heartache and
pain was very real. And josh Hart was emotional after
(03:27):
the game, not in a we one way, but in
a I almost cost my team. It's that that to
me was deeper than I almost cost my team that
that would if they would have lost that game. That
was the type of I think, whether he was thinking
this consciously or not, it was a I almost defined
(03:53):
my entire basketball life. There are certain plays that just
will be, you know, our remembered as who you are,
fair or not, because they're so they stand out in
history and they're so important. And so now instead of
that play defining potentially as basketball life, it's something that
(04:18):
will be forgotten by most people within days. It's really remarkable.
So we'll get all into the game, every angle of
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Speaker 2 (04:52):
As the Calves a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So it was just like, wow, it's a little bit
of a streak. Can I defend Taylor's swift for a moment?
It does appear she has a history of being a
Knicks fan, but her soon to be husband is a
die hard Calves fan and is from there. So it
is you know, like, this isn't there teams? I don't
(05:21):
think so. The two teams she has been seen rooting
for are is a team in the Knicks that she
was seen rooting for twelve fifteen years ago, and her
husband's favorite team or soon to be. So that part
I understand more than if she was all of a
sudden wearing a Spurs jersey, that would have been you know,
that would have been something. And Mexico leads South Africa
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in the first game of the World Cup at halftime
actually live right now, all right, demons? The Knicks come back,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Amazing game last night Showtime. I guess didn't start off amazing.
The Spurs were leading by twenty nine points to at
one point and managed to give that up, so they
gave up the upset. On the other hand, the Knicks
were down twenty nine and clawed back. How do you
think that you remember this as a comeback or a collapse?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I am sorry to be take the I guess glass
half empty side of this, but in sports there are
comebacks and in sports there are collapses. Twenty eight to three,
which is what this is being compared to in the
(06:35):
Super Bowl, was a comeback. Atlanta made a few mistakes,
but Atlanta wasn't turning the ball over left and right.
Atlanta was not making an error after error. There are
things they could have done well better, But that was
Tom Brady, Julian Edelman and the New England Patriots coming back.
(06:58):
Once upon a time, the Chiefs were down twenty four
to nothing in the second quarter of a playoff game
and had the lead at halftime thanks to a collapse
by the Texans. The Texans, with the lead, fumbled a kickoff,
faked a punt, kicked a terrible field goal, did everything
(07:20):
wrong you can do. That was a collapse. The San
Antonio Spurs collapsed in epic historic fashion. And there is
there are supporting actors in the collapse, and then there
(07:42):
is the main character of the collapse. Supporting actor in
the collapse, Mitch Johnson, who froze, who flatly didn't seem
to recognize what was happening and didn't realize he was
one of the only people in the building who could
(08:05):
prevent it from happening. He watched a twenty nine point
lead get whittled down to a fifteen point lead in
the third quarter, only used one timeout, then watched a
fifteen point lead, No, a twenty point lead, pardon me,
(08:28):
get whittled because they were up fifteen going into the fourth,
and then added five points so the Spurs were up
twenty with nine and a half minutes left. Watched a
twenty point lead, get whittled to a four point lead,
and on. During that section of the game, only used
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one timeout and just seemed to be stunned at what
was happening and did I don't know the analogy for it,
but I feel like I can describe a feeling a
lot of people can relate to which is when something
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disastrous is happening, but the actual you're just trending towards
a disastrous outcome, but you might be able to avoid it.
That sense of well maybe the faster we go, the
better it'll be. Like the it felt to me like
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he didn't want to acknowledge it. Watching it, it felt
like he thought, if I call time out, I'm validating
that this is happening. And if I don't, then I
can just it'll pretend that I feel like everything's gonna
be fine, and it will correct itself. And it never
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corrected itself. So he was a supporting actor in the collapse.
De Aaron Fox, who is getting torched today for taking
that layup, is a supporting actor in the collapse. Now,
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you cannot, after you get the loose ball with fifteen
seconds left, shoot that layup unless you're certain you're going
to make it. That is a grievous error. Okay. With
that said, the idea that he was going if he
hadn't done that, he could have dribbled out the clock
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or something is utter nonsense. He shot the layup with
twelve seconds left. The Knicks got the loose ball with
ten seconds left. I it was he was. He could
have burnt a little more clock and then he would
have had to hit some free throws. Obviously, that was
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a bad, bad play by him, But he is also
getting torched for doubling Brunson on the very next play
when I believe that was a coaching point. I don't
think he freelanced there. I think that's what the play
was designed to do. And by the way, it created
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a mishot. But they didn't have a body on og. Obviously,
Dearon Fox screwed up. He had some bad turnovers. The
layup was bad. Obviously, he is the veteran leader, the
highest paid guy on the team and should have been better.
But he is a supporting actor in the collapse. The
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main character of the San Antonio Spurs collapse is the
only guy it can be, the guy who's supposed to
be the best player in the world. And in the
second half of that game, after trash talking and what
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the kids would call or a farming and letting everyone
know how in his head, how in their head he was,
he went three for fourteen, looked absolutely winded, and in
a fourth quarter where Stefan Castle, who's younger than him,
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went eight for eight from the free throw line, and
Dylan Harper, who's younger than him, went two for two
from the free throw line. He went one for four,
including two misses in the final one hundred seconds up
one of a finals game.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That doesn't circle back to Mitchetal like with Wimby being
in the game and being gassed, like they had that
huge lead, he could have taken some rest and there
were there were there were opportunities throughout the game for
him to get rest, and he didn't at the end
like he ate it up tired.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Absolutely accurate, that's accurate. That is it is crazy that
Mitch Johnson didn't find him more than three. In the
first half, he played twenty one of twenty four minutes.
They were up at halftime twenty seven points. That seems crazy.
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In the third quarter, he played eleven of twelve minutes.
They were up twenty nine at one point in that quarter.
That seems crazy. And in the fourth quarter, obviously he
played the whole time even though they were up twenty
with nine and a half minutes left. That also, that
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was a screw up by the coach. I understand that,
but fatigue is not why he missed those free throws.
He missed those free throws. I mean, I'm sure maybe
it contributed, but he got tight and that second free
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throw didn't even look like his form, like he let
the ball go weird. And then it looked Wilde's pointed
this out and he was right. It looked a lot
like how he shot the potential game winning jump shot
where he fell and was in Game two and he's
just kind of like hoping for it to go in.
It is they were. He was playing unbelievably. He had
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thirteen points in the first quarter. He's living in the paint.
And then Mitch Johnson classic one by me Chin checks him.
Dirty play, flagrant it should be called, and Wimby does.
Wimby first taunted him on the way up the court,
which is what made Mitch lose his temper, and he
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hits him, and then Wimby sits up clapped points in
his head, and from that moment forward was bad. That
go ahead. Demontsey looked like, you want to say something.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh no, no, no, Mitchell Robinson, but yeah, you that's
when you think they can.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh did I say, Mitch Johnson, Yeah, Mitch Johnson's coach.
Mitch Johnson didn't elbow him. Mitch rob Thank you, Mitchell Robinson.
I so that was a massive moment in the game.
The other one was the moment. And this was unlike
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a lot of the Wimby stuff these playoffs. This was unlucky,
This was unintentional. This was just basketball. But it happens.
The flagrant he committed was the start of the Knicks comeback.
When he committed that flagrant foul, the Spurs had just
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gotten their biggest lead of the game, up twenty nine.
It was eighty one fifty two with twenty one and
a half minutes left in the game. So it's eighty
one fifty two when Wimby commits that flagrant. The rest
of the game the Knicks Outscoes san Antonio. That's unbelievable.
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Fifty five to twenty five. Now, was it because of
the Wimby flagrant? No, I don't think so. Do I
think Wimby played a little more hesitantly after that? I do?
Do I think it was in his head a little bit, Yeah,
because he knew that if I get another flagrant this game,
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I'm ejected and I'll be suspended. But probably the league
would just rescind one of them. But regardless, but you
can't my opinion this that game they came best player
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in the A Live title. I'm sorry you can't you
here right now because let's talk about the Well, Mitch
Johnson should have known better than to play him forty
four minutes. Okay, but that makes it then harder for
you to be the best player alive if you're not
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able to at twenty two years old, give me more
than fifteen awesome minutes in that game, because that's what
he gave you. He gave you fifteen awesome minutes and
then was laboring the rest of the way. And this
series has shined a again. He is one of the
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best players in the league, going to be one of
the greatest players ever. But this series has shined a
spotlight demons on three pretty obvious flaws in his gaming.
Need to work on one and this my guy Lebron
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the seven Finals shined a spotlight on doesn't trust his
jump shot. If you dare him to beat you with
a jump shot, he just can't do it. At this
point in his career, he was twenty two and it
took him a while, by the way, to develop a
jump shot. He won multiple league MVPs before he developed
a reliable jump shot. Wimby to me, demnse tell me
if you think this is fair. Has three very apparent
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holes in his game. One conditioning, conditioning he needs, he
needs to and I blame the Spurs more than him.
They need to ramp him up over the course of
the season. Two physical strength, yes, he just can't. He
just gets pushed around. And three and this is the
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biggest reason I'm saying he vacated best player alive. A
goat one, just one go to offensive move, because what
I am very comfortable in saying is if Nikola Jokic,
or Shay or Luca or Jannie or hell Jalen Brunson
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or a lot of these guys, forget the guys eligible
to be best player in the world, just literally any
other consensus top ten player. If their team was in
the midst of a thirty point collapse and a thirty
point half themselves of scoring, you know what their coach
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would be able to do, Call time out and draw
up a play to get a bucket from guy, Go
get us a bucket, Go stop the bleeding, and the
only play I feel like Mitt Johnson feels like you
can draw up for Wenby to guarantee a bucket is
an alley oop lobb to the rim. So and here's
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the last thing, and then we'll get more into the
nitty gritty of the game. And I do want to
talk about the Knicks brilliance of it. Three finals losses
for Wimby so far and the Spurs three really rough
and they've been escalating in my opinion. In Ah, I'm
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gonna remember that gravity Game one, the least egregious down
for fifty five seconds left, dribbles it off his foot.
Nicks pick it up, take it out. Brunton hits the dagger.
It happens. You know, you just but he did just
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dribble it off his foot. Game one, Game two really bad.
If the first one was a you know, a class
E mystermeanor this is like a class B felony. Throws
it off Castle's back again. As much as we're killing
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Fox for time score situation, Wimby had the ball with
twelve seconds same as Fox. Tie game. No need to rush,
you have overtime in your pocket if you want it.
Throws it off Castles back, then fouls Bronson. And then
last night the thing that folks have spoke into existence,
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begging what happen one time throughout Lebron's career, but literally
never has huge spot in the playoffs, goes to the
free throw line, misses both, and the team loses because
of it. Those I can't remember the last time a
Finals game turned on missed free throws by a star
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since the Ray Allen game when Man who went one
of two and Kawhi who wasn't a star yet went
one of two, which allowed the Caves to come back
from six down. I'm sorry the heat in the final
thirty seconds. So you add to all of that, the
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all the we're built for this ethical basketball, sophistic The
Knicks don't play a sophisticated style of game, all of
this stuff that we've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I they've been right there, though, is the killer Like
I do think that they have been built for it?
Does get to a point, yeah, I mean you hit
free throws. I mean you miss free throws at the end.
Are you built for it? I guess? But at the
same time, I think this is they've been defeating themselves.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Kind of makes it worse. It's not it. It's not
we had no shot, They've had a lead, in the
final two minutes of all four games, and they have
not executed. And this one was there have been twelve
this here's a fun stat. Prior to last night, there
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were twenty two Finals games where a team was up
twenty at halftime. Twenty or more. Those teams were twenty
two to zero, with an average margin of victory of
twenty one, and the smallest margin of victory was eleven.
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Every single team in the history of the Finals who
was up twenty at halftime, not only one blew their
opponent out. Here's here's another one, and well, this other
one's more of a knickstat, so I'll save it for them.
I young team, young team.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's young stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
One.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
But it's also, yeah, you can't be. Here's what I
here's all I'm gonna see what I'm saying. It can't be.
This team might be a dynasty. This guy might end
up being the greatest player of all time. And he's
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already the best player in the league when he plays great.
And when you go three for fourteen after telling the
other team you're in their head to fall down three
to one and blow a twenty nine point lead, be
as young that and the and the coach screwed up.
That to me is I won't personally abide. There was
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a team on the other side of it though. That
team was the Knicks. We'll get to them in just
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Speaker 1 (26:58):
Before we get to the Nick demanse two very quick
little gambling stories, okay. One a good friend of mine
who will remain anonymous, who is as as a high
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high roller like just as they're the outside of probably Macau.
There really aren't many people in the world that gamble
larger than he does, and is a mainstay right behind
celebrity row at Knicks games and has been one of
the guys traveling via private jet to all of the
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road games doing the whole thing. Yesterday he took his
family to the game with a game and the best
seats you can get that aren't celebrity rows. So whatever
a handful of those tickets cost he's spent, I think
(28:10):
what he's spent on the tickets he bet on the
Knicks minus two? Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, but I don't even I'm not even saying I
mean again, the guys he's gonna be, he's got he
does very very long life. But my point is, I
you are a die hard Knicks fan. You are for it,
get the comeback, and you know your family is celebrating,
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and then somewhere in your head you're like, oh my god,
this game called the tickets plus the bet plus this plus,
So there there's one. There's one story. I mean, that's
a tough one. That's It's one of the reasons I
am a big, big believer in if I'm attending a
sporting event, I'm only betting the money line of the
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team i'm pulling for. You're like, I'm if they're the favorite,
I'm paying the juice and betting the money line, and
if they're the underdog, I'm getting the plus money and
betting the money line. Because you don't want like if
you're rooting for a team and you're at a game
and they're getting say they're getting uh two and a half, no,
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the three and a half, pardon me, and they're down
three with five seconds left with the ball and you
bet them plus three and a half, you don't want
to find yourself like somewhere in your head, like rooting
for them to miss the overtime. Forcing three, like if
you're the building, yeah you want to a right yeah.
So one other before you get to the knickt gambling story.
(29:53):
This one I will not have people remain anonymous. My
dear buddy Nacho, who I talk about a lot. The
Poe ok great, not Joe Barbaro. He and I have
been texting each other World Cup bets and finals bets
all week and I text him yesterday, but he's somewhere
in Europe, I think right now. I text him yesterday
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because he asked me who I had, and I said, oh,
I'm I'm all over Nick's money line, which is what
I had yesterday. So it was one of the greatest bet,
one of the craziest wins ever. He's in Europe, so
it's a different time. He doesn't respond to me after
I text him that. So the game, once the Knicks
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are around like twenty, I text him, I'm like hey,
I'm like I'm glad you didn't see this and you
didn't bet it too, And at halftime he finally reaches
out and he's like no, no, no, He's like, I had
already bet the Knicks before you had texted, and I'm like,
oh my god, well we're both ruined here. Then the
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Knicks start, the Knicks are coming back. We're texting each other.
You know, this is insane. Can't believe we're alive. Blah
blah blah. And then the Knicks win and I text
him after the game, like the little like sell it,
like the bottle popping emojis, or the celebration all the
celebration emojis, congrats all of it, and he just dryly
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writes back, I had minus two. Good, Like it's like
I didn't not not your old buddy Nick. Great, we
had to. That was a tough one. Oh yeah, it's
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a really yeah, really a brutal one. Really a brutal,
brutal spot. I want to see did he send me
a voice memo. He's a big voice memo guy. Oh
hold on, oh no, But so this is the just
to give it. I just want to again, I want to
paint the picture for the audience, because all this guy
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does is play poker and best sports. He texts me
prior to this, and then we'll get to the game.
I just think you guys will like it. He kept
telling me to go He always says go all in,
telling me to go all in on the the Stanley Cup,
the Knights in Game one, the Las Vegas Knights, and
(32:30):
I don't you guys know, I don't follow hockey. I'm
not into it. They won in historic fashion, and I
get in the middle of the night this text. So
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I just can't believe. I needled that I needled my
dear friend. I felt so bad. All right, let's talk
about the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Would have been easy for the for the Knicks to
waiver early. Cat came out with two fouls. The Spurs
made the most threes and a half in Finals history,
but nobody would have blamed them for packing it in.
But they came back, got it done. Brunson said, one
word captures at all believe. And so New York has
pulled off some crazy comebacks this year. But did you
see this one happening at any point?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So first, let me go to the cat early fouls.
I thought they were tough calls. The first one I
hated to see. It probably was a foul, but you
just hate that forty five seconds into the game. The second,
the one that the Spurs challenged and got overturned. I
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was stunned was overturned and turned into a foul on cat.
I could have seen them chat like it being overturned,
no foul on Wimby. I was stunned. It was turned
into a foul on cat and that, obviously for a
time being, looked like it was, you know, the key
moment of the game. The Knicks all of a sudden
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are playing Jeremy Sohan and Hock Porty and everything is
thrown off. Mitch Robinson's dying out there, but more relevant
was this demons. I felt like the Knicks. I felt
like the first half of yesterday's game was one of
the first times we've ever seen the Twitter algorithm maybe
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swing a Finals game. Because here is my here's my
theory on it. And I said it after Game three
because I thought the officiating in game two was egregious.
I thought the officiating in Game three was not great,
but wasn't the reason the Knicks lost. But Mike Brown
talked about it, and then it became the huge story
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and all it's all Knicks fans could talk about. I
think because some of that was Twitter algorithm. The building
was so caught up in the officiating immediate that it
felt to me like the Knicks got caught up in
the officiating and weren't playing their game even though their
free throw in the first half. Knicks fans are just
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beside themselves were the first half officiating. In the first half,
the Spurs shot six free throws and the Knicks shot
twenty three, and Knicks fans were livid with the refs
just over there and listen, they did miss the goaltend,
but I would have missed that too, because I also
thought that that was a lob by Alverado, not uh
Jo it looked like but yeah, no, I'm saying it.
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It didn't look like a lob on the replay for me.
I'm just saying, in real time, I thought he was
throwing theob to Mitchell Robinson. No, I in real time,
I thought it was a lob. But regardless, so the
Knicks got right or wrong. The officiating stuff really distracted
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the Knicks in the first half and threw them off
and Cat like Cat's foul trouble was a Jit problem.
But then I just think they got too caught up
in that. So that's first thing. Second thing is and
this is such a testament to the Knicks. I'm not
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gonna act like I thought they were in good shape
down twenty seven, but at no point did I think, well,
this is just dead and done over. And the moment
the so the Spurs get up twenty nine, Wimby commits
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that unlucky flagrant, and then the Knicks go on the
only real run they went on the whole game. Other
than this thing I'm about to show you here, the
best run the Knicks had was eight to zero. They
didn't go on some insane elongated run except for down
twenty nine, they went on a thirteen nothing run to
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cut it to sixteen. That was the stage of the
game that Barkley was just killing the Spurs, because the
Spurs shots during that thirteen oh run were Kelton Johnson
miss on the inside and miss tipping. Then Champenni missed
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three seven seconds into a shot clock, Harper missed three
at the end of the shot clock. Uh, Dearn Fox turnover,
the cell missed three twelve seconds into the shot clock,
Kelton Johnson missed three eleven seconds into the shot clock,
Fox missed three late in the shot clock. Uh. And
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then Dylan Harper turnover. And that's that and the Knicks
all of a sudden are down sixteen. It was those
five threes in a row. It was seven possessions of
five threes and two turnovers that let the Knicks back
in it. As soon as that happened, Demonse I thought
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they were alive. I was like, okay, Like fifteen is
nothing for this team. I really felt that way. And
it is noteworthy that last night was the fifth time
in the last two years the Knicks have been down
twenty in a playoff game, and one the rest of
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the league over the last two years. Demonse went down
twenty in a playoff game is four and sixty seven.
The Knicks are five and three. It's unbelievable. So that's
the Then let me add to it, because they were
down fifteen at the end of the third, but then
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at the start of the fourth the Spurs bar on
a five zero run and got up twenty. How about this.
As of three weeks ago, since two thousand and three,
there had been two fourth quarter playoff fourth quarter twenty
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point comebacks in the playoffs in the As of three
weeks ago, there had been two twenty plus point playoff
fourth quarter comebacks in the last twenty three years in
the NBA. The Knicks have done it twice in the
last month. Down twenty in the fourth quarter of a
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playoff game, there was there. There was one in like
twenty twelve, one in twenty fourteen, both in the first round.
The Knicks were down twenty two with seven and a
half left to the Cavs and down twenty with nine
and a half left in the finals in the swing
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game of the finals. And what they did, and this
is where I want to give them all the credit.
Here's how they came back. Demons down twenty nine and
a half left Alvarado three, bridges lay up Towns three.
That was the Town three where he almost could have
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got called for an offensive foul, kind of kicked his
leg out and fell. So it's just a little eight
to zero run, all right. So now they're down twelve.
Then Castle goes to the line, hits a couple free throws,
so it's fourteen. Then Og hits the three. Was it
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the I think it was the three, I'm not sure
which one it was, the one where he got the
bounce pass or not. Og hits a three and then
Towns and this was the moment I thought that I
thought the Knicks are gonna fucking win this game. When
Town's got the ball in the corner, Pump faked, got
Wimby up a little bit, then drove on him, got
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to the basket and kind of fell back and shot.
They're down nine with six and a half left, and
I'm like, oh that, I think they're gonna win. They're
down nine, there's plenty of time. Then two more Castle
free throws, so it's eleven. Then it's brunts and free throws.
Brunson layup OG three. This this OG three was the
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one where he got the pass. It was like kind
of a soft pass that bounced to him. He had
to regather it in the corner. He hits it. Now
they're down four and there's four and a half minutes left. Finally, mercifully,
Mitch Johnson's like, you know what, let's talk about it.
Time out, time out, and they come out and to
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his credit, fox three. So like that was a you
know that huge play down seven. Alverado does the little
spin move in the lane, gets the layup down five,
Wimby comes back, hits the only jump shot hits. I
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think the whole second half that eighteen footer up seven. Okay,
we're fine. Alverado, Jose Alverado, who they got at the
deadline for two second round picks, who had played zero
playoff minutes with Jalen Brunson. They had had zero minutes together.
It's I and Brunson. In fourth quarter, Bridges benched Alverado three.
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Next time down the court, Brunton hits the three on Wimby,
which was a unbelievable play, Wimby guarding him. Now it's
a one point game. Then Fox turnover, Josh Hart miss layup.
Oh my god, how did that happen? And then Og
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fouls Wimby and Wimby goes to the line, misses them both.
Brunton comes down himself, has the little kind of fancy
footwork in the lane, scores and they're ahead. And then Castle,
to his credit, makes the free throws. And we've talked
about the end of the game. I guess we had.
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You know what we haven't really talked about. I guess
the fucking Og Tippett. Yeah, it's been forty minutes. I
I I mean, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
You said that OGI will get a statue in front
of the MSG for this game if they win. But
do you think that he'll also get finals MVP. He's
at plus three hundred right now. Brunson is at minus
one sixty. I kind of hinted at this in the
last part and yeah, you think.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
You were talking about it at forty to one.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, no, I think I mean, and do you see
I'm not trying to like bag On Brunson. I know
you like, don't have to dim to Brighton. But yeah,
without Og and Andobi, what are they in this series?
And without Jalen Brunson? Where they in the series? Is
it the same thing? Are they both at the same value?
I think Og at this point is the more valuable
player to the team.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
So I disagree that he's the more valuable player because
Brunson has been I mean even yesterday he scores five
straight points to give them the lead in the final
two minutes. He is the engine of their offense. Okay,
you can argue OG's been better in this series. But
to answer your question, what are they without either one
of them? They just got swept. Yeah, like the so
(44:37):
the in that regard, but that Og tip in. Yeah,
what I said was I if the Knicks win the title,
I think they should invent the first ever dual statue
(45:00):
where on one side of the statue is Og with
I think with his left hand blocking dearn Fox and
then if you go to the other like it's it's
two OG's that share a back essexually, and on the
(45:22):
other side of the statue is Og with his right
hand doing the tipping the It's there are It's the
(45:42):
biggest shot in the NBA this decade. I think the
single biggest shot this decade was the Kawhi game winner,
like the Yeah, Toronto Kawhi Game seven game winner. I
think that's the biggest shot since twenty sixteen. This is
(46:03):
now bigger and it can go toe to toe with
Again they're different, but the Kyrie shot, it doesn't. The
Ray Allen shot is in a separate category only because
if he misses the season so it didn't win. It
(46:23):
didn't win the game, but they were down three. It
if he misses the sea, the championship's over, you know.
So like that shot was definitionally too, if he misses it,
a different team wins the title. And so this one
we don't know. If Og doesn't get this, it's still
to two, but it is the execution on it the instincts,
(46:48):
the athleticism, the burst, the finesse, the touch, it's just
as good as it gets. So if he is the
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
No, I mean he went untouched, which it was a crazy,
crazy part. I feel like somebody should have been on him.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And so people are blaming Fox for that. But I
and I we don't know. If Fox freelanced, if he
wasn't supposed to double, then that's a grievous error. It
looked to me like that was the play call and Brunson.
This is one of the reasons, if you remember Demons
end of Game two, we were critical about the Spurs
(47:25):
for taking too long down one. Remember Fox just dribbled
for a minute and then Wimby shot at the buzzer.
They the knicks went immediately, which allowed for if Brunton
had waited, then the tip in can't.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Happenin the Brunson where he took this shot and dragging
Wimby out to the three point line, I think also
helped Ognanobi because it honestly was not a great shot.
Was not a great shot, but it gave his guys
a chance to go in there and make something of it.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
It wasn't a great shot. But I thought it was
going in. I just tell you right now, I thought
it was going in for real. It was all nine.
I thought it was going in, all right. I do
want to talk about a different tip in the in
a moment, Carl, what Karl Anthony Towns did. But first,
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Deman's eight, let's talk about after the Brunson. I'm sorry
(49:52):
the og tip in the Spurs final play.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, uh so, I forgot who's in bounding it, but
it looked when I saw it, like time, it kind
of seemed like it didn't go where it was supposed
to go. But yeah, Cat got his hand on the
ball and Castle had to wrestle around with it, couldn't
get a shot up.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
And the thing is this that the scorekeeper screwed up
because the clock, since Cat started late, the spot should
have started right then. Luckily that didn't matter. That would
have been awful. Yeah, It's an unbelievable play by Cat
(50:30):
because Castle had broken free. Yes, Nicks, the Knicks understandably thought, Uh,
they're gonna go to Wimby. Either they're gonna throw a
lob to Wimby or what I thought they were going
to do. Is the one thing that you would have
(50:52):
simply been at the mercy of is he gonna make it?
If they just throw a high inbound to Wimby near
the top of the key, He's gonna catch and shoot.
That's what I thought we were getting. I thought it
was gonna be the opportunity for the Wimby redemption.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I mean, with him being gassed. Bless you, that probably
was a smarter play.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Dude was tired. But instead Wimby was the decoy. Castle
broke free, and I don't know what would have happened,
but you're absolutely right. The pass was well short because
Towns just barely got his fingertips on it. And it
(51:35):
is a all time moment, just an all time moment
to and it's the only way you can have that
type of finish, the only way you can have that
that type of comeback is for every little break to
(51:58):
go your way alone along the way and for everybody
to do something for it. And listen, McHale Bridges, here's
the other thing that where I want to give the
Nicks a ton of credit. Mikal Bridges did not play
very well and got benched in the fourth quarter. Towns
(52:23):
was out of rhythm all game because of the foul trouble,
only took five shots and Josh Hart it smoked, you know,
a layup to take the lead, and they won anyway.
And we're going to do most of our Game five
(52:44):
preview in tomorrow's episode, but a lot of the conversation
here is what does you know how will the Spurs
recover from this? And what I don't know if people
(53:06):
are incorporating enough into, is not what that type of
loss does to the Spurs, but what type of what
that type of win does for the Knicks as far
as their belief in this series. Now, I do want
to ask you this question, Demansey before we move on,
(53:29):
because Draymond alluded to this on the postgame show. Should
the Spurs be worried at all that this loss has
a effect greater than this series, that this is a
loss that rattle next year? Yeah, just carry like this
(53:52):
is a loss that resonates for more than this season.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I do think, I do know. I think it's a fear,
but I think it also how you come into game
five and how they do their I think you can
kind of erase this, but it kind of it's a
twenty nine point deficit.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
You can't erase it over one game.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
But I do think that they could get to start
deal better about themselves that soon on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I think the only way to erase it is to
win the title personally, because now if you don't win
the title, fair or not, people are just gonna be
like Game two, we had the ball, we threw it away.
In Game four, were up twenty nine points. I I
just I hear are the things I wonder that I
am just this is you know, this is not hot
(54:49):
take broadcasting. This is just but honest curiosity. I wonder
how this game affects how the Spurs view May Johnson.
I wonder that, and I think that is a fair question.
I wonder how this game impacts how the young guys
(55:12):
on the Spurs view de Aaron Fox. I wonder that,
and I think that's a fair question. And I wonder
how the now three game ending screw ups near the
end of game. Screw ups by Wimby affect Wimby's belief
(55:34):
of I was built for this. Those are open ended
one like it. It could simply be you know, all
the guys are like man, Foxes are Vet. We wouldn't
be here without him, no problem. Mitch Johnson learns from it.
And this is the scene in the movie. You know,
this is Rocky one for Wimby, of Rocky losing to
(55:58):
steal line from Simmons, you know, and losing Topollo. Creed
is about to come back better than ever. It's certainly
on the board, but this is we can't Here's what
I don't want to do. I don't want to overreact
to this, but we can't say that is the greatest
comeback in the history of the NBA Playoffs, the biggest
(56:18):
collapse in the history of the NBA Finals, and not acknowledge.
So that might stick to some guys. There might be
a lingering, longer effect on it. And it is I've
just never seen anything quite like it. A few more
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The only other, even semi noteworthy thing is if the
Spurs extend this series. And again, I don't expect the
league demands to ever actually punish Wimby for anything, but
it is noteworthy that thing we talked about about the
flagrant foul points unless they have rescinded, and I wouldn't
(57:43):
put it past them to rescind it on him. But uh,
I mean it was gonna be going.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
They were like, we just got to give them a flavorant,
but that wasn't flavoring.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
But I mean it was yeah, technically yes, technically yes exactly,
And I understand we want there to be separate rules
for some reason for women, it was it was.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
An unlucky flagrant. But that's how that works. Sometimes we
can say we would like I would be fine with
by the way, I would be absolutely fine with demonse them,
said them having a third category of flagrant fouls and
(58:27):
call them flagrant zeros. Yeah, because we have flagrant and
those are the same just like flagrant one and flagrant
two have the in game as whether you get a
flagrant one or a flagrant two, the other team is
getting two free throws in the ball. The difference is
(58:49):
that I would be fine with them adding flagrant zero,
which is still two free throws in the ball, but
no for the play correct and I would say landing
zone flagrance and the one like Wimby got where everyone
(59:09):
knows that was an accident, like those should be flagrant
zeros and it shouldn't add your flagrant foul points. But
that's not how they have the rules written. Like, I
think that would be a fair adjustment. But and but
also guess what if if that were the case. He's
(59:32):
supposed to already have flat and so the I wonder
how much that's going to impact him. And I also
I just think he is and I made this point
a ton yesterday on TV. Victor Wominyama has not had
(59:54):
consecutive excellent games this entire higher postseason. His best games
of the playoffs. I'm gonna go through them just very quickly.
And this to me is the fatigue thing. This is
the he's just not ramping up enough. First game of
(01:00:15):
the playoffs thirty five points, unbelievable. The next game is
the game he got the concussion. How so you're not
gonna hold that against him obviously as far as the performance.
But in that game he suffered the concussion de monse
halfway through the second quarter. Up to that point he
(01:00:37):
had made one shot. He was not having a huge game.
The The next great game Victor win Minyama had in
these playoffs was Game three against Minnesota thirty five and
fifteen or thirty nine and fifteen with five blocks. The
game after that was the game he got thrown out,
(01:01:00):
but again that was midway through the second quarter. He
had made two shots, he had four points and was frustrated.
The next great game he had was the first game
back after he got thrown out, when he had twenty
seven seventeen and five. The game right after that the
(01:01:20):
closeout game against Minnesota nineteen points. Game one of the
Conference finals the game of his life, forty one and
twenty four. He doesn't have another great game until Game four.
He followed with his thirty three and eight. Then Game
five of that series was the game where he had
(01:01:43):
one field goal a quarter, was four for fifteen from
the floor. Game six unbelievable, twenty eight and ten and
didn't even have to play that much. Game seven the
team was dominant. He didn't do much at all. He
had twenty two and seven this series. He was spectacular
in Game three, absolutely ran out of gas in Game four.
(01:02:05):
He's yet too in his playoff career have consecutive great games,
and the Spurs are about to need him to have
three in a row. I don't think that bodes well.
We will do a Game five and the rest of
the series. Preview for Friday's episode also credit to me.
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One game of the World Cup one exact score correct
two nil Mexico over South Africa Classic Category one by
me World Cup sharp Nick Wright. Uh, you know what,
I'm gonna go ahead and add something for you here
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because that the late game is South Korea Checchia one
one draw. I'm predicting a draw one one draw for
the late night game. That's why I think it's gonna happen.
One draw. Uh but yeah, good job by me. I'm
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very happy about that. All Right, we'll do a game
five and a full uh you know, end of finals
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