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Nick Wright recaps every game of Wild Card Weekend from the NFL Playoffs, starting with Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers' 30-6 blow out loss to CJ Stroud's Houston Texans. Is this the end of Aaron Rodgers? Will Mike Tomlin be back in Pittsburgh? Afterwards, Nick reacts to Jalen Hurts, Nick Sirianni, and the Philadelphia Eagles being eliminated... will Philly consider moving on from their head coach? Then, Nick breaks down how Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears were able to pull off their historic comeback against the Packers, and what is next for Jordan Love and Green Bay. After, Nick debates why the Buffalo Bills should be the Super Bowl favorites after Josh Allen's heroic performance in Jacksonville. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in what driving the great Episode four fourteen fresh
off inarguably the greatest wild card weekend in NFL history,
And we were listen Sunday night football Chargers Patriots was
fine but not great, and last night's game was a
(00:26):
tough watch, but at least close until it was just
a catastrophe. But prior to that, we were on the
following run of football games. Game two, seventy two of
the NFL season Raven Steelers comes down to the final moments.
Game one of the College Football Playoff All Miss Miami,
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one of the best college football games in a decade.
Game two of College FOOTBA Playoffs Indiana Trunc's Oregon. Game
one of the NFL Playoffs, Panthers ten and a half
point home down against the Rams, up at the two
minute warning, Rams comeback. Game two an instant, all time
legacy writing classic between the Packers and the Bears. Packers
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up at the two minute warning and up eighteen in
that game, Bears come back and win. Game three, Jags Bills,
the There are four different lead changes in the fourth quarter,
including a final two minute comeback by the Bills. And
Game four of the NFL Playoffs, Eagles Niners another comeback
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in the final two minutes, including our long national nightmare
of the Eagles title reign finally ending. Listen, not everybody
can defend a championship. Not everybody can win the Super
Bowl and then either win another one or go back
to the Super Bowl. The Chiefs did every single time
they won one. The Patriots did it a lot. That's
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that's not how the Eagles roll, So be it. Uh
And if that sounds petty, and if I sound like
a hater, and if I sound a little unprofessional, the
answer to all those things are yes, yes, and yes.
I've had Eagles fans harassing me in the streets for
eleven months of how is that Super bowlf? Worst year
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the Chiefs had in a decade, Eagles coming off defending
Super Bowl championship one same amount of playoff games, Fellows,
It just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
How are you doing, Demanse, I'm doing great, Pops doing
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm doing you know what? I do. Think this, and
then we'll get in. I want to start with Monday
Night football and into this. I do think that of
the nine best teams in the NFL this year, eight
of them are left and the only one who maybe
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could argue was in the top eight that didn't make
it was Jacksonville. But Jacksonville over the course of the
entire season wasn't as like you could say, Jacksonville, you know,
was better than Houston this year. But it felt like
Houston had the really tough opening month and then was outstanding.
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Jacksonville was kind of mediocre for two months and then
finished really hot. And so the right eight teams are
left and it sets up my favorite weekend of the
sports year, Divisional Round weekend, which should be four epic
games before we get to Rogers, before we get to
any of that. I already reminded you guys. This episode
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boost Mobile. Big Dom helped out Oh oh, sideline snag.
I thought we were talking about the AJ Brown Nick
Sirianni Kurf fluffle, but no, Big Dom did catch a pass.
Big Dom also was wearing a headset. I don't really
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know why. I'm not sure what big Dom you know,
what he's chiming in on, but he's wearing a headset.
NFL all Pro teams have been announced. Gives you a
pretty strong indicator that Matt Stafford's gonna win League MVP. Now,
I understand last year was the rare year year that
first team All Pro Quarterback was one guy and the
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MVP was the other, with it being Lamar first Team
All Pro quarterback. But Josh League MVP. I don't think
that's gonna happen in back to back years. And Timmy
shallome wins Golden Globe for Best Actor in Marty Supreme.
I have not seen that yet. I want to see it.
I like Timmy Shallomey. I kind of like the way
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he conducts himself. He also seems like a hell of
an actor. I really liked him in Dune. He has
an underrated small role in an all time movie, but
very hard, not hard to watch, but very emotional. And
Interstellar Tomorrow before real quick Toman say if you' seen Interstellar.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I've not seen it, but I've heard the pictures are great.
I've seen that one scene where like the thing is
coming to say.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Wave yes, oh yeah, yeah, okay, cool, So here's the thing.
Interstellar's Christopher Nolan movie. Almost all Christopher Nolan movies except
for the Dark Knight movie. He likes to mess with time,
so it's a little confusing to wrap your mind around
exactly all of it. But here's the other thing. It
(05:28):
will have you found. Give me thirty seconds here and
then we'll get to the sports. I promise, have you
found just like commercials or since you've become a dad
in the last two months, that all of a sudden,
like there are certain things that are otherwise would be banal.
That makes you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Emotional sit on a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, So Interstellar at it it's a you know,
interstellar space travel movie, but it's also a five daughter
relationship movie. I think Interstellar would make you cry, like
like tears down your face cry, but it is an
awesome movie. Timmy Shallamy is in that all right. Reminder,
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the worst game of the weekend, but it was the
game last night. Oh, two hundred and twenty nine thousand. Now,
maybe get to two hundred and thirty thousand by next week.
It was the worst game of the weekend, but it's
the one that happened last night. It also might have
been the final game for a legend. So we'll start
with Texan Steelers.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh yeah, wildcard. Wildcard weekend ended with the Texans defeating Steelers.
Steelers offense couldn't do anything, Texans offense couldn't do anything,
but the Texans won the game. When asked about his
future after the game, Aaron Rodgers said, I'm not going
to make any emotional decisions, but at forty two years old,
do you think that this is the end of the
road for him?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, I didn't think that at all going into the game,
because Rogers has been talking about how he thought he
would have one or two teams that would showed interest,
the fact that he had seemed to be playing some
of his best ball at the end of the year.
Steelers made the playoffs. All of that, but Buck and
Aikman talked like they knew the way Buck and Aikman
(07:35):
talked at the end of that game, and the way
ESPN produced the end of that game following Rogers and
all of that, it felt to me like they got
a heads up that he's planning on retiring now. If
this wasn't already the case thanks to Philip Rivers couple
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game cameo, the long tail of Philip Rivers coming back
after five years on the couch is going to be that.
Certainly next year and maybe for the next couple after.
If any good team suffers a November or December quarterback injury,
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Rogers name will be floated and maybe he would come
back in a setting like that. You know something the
that if next year the Rams are nine to four
and Stafford goes down, could you know, could he come
back in that spot? I also think Aaron likes the
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spotlight enough that I don't think we are going to
get a quick resolution on this. I think he's going
to take his time. But I do think that last
night was the de facto ind for Aaron Rodgers, and
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I do want to take some time here to talk
about how I will remember and think about Rogers, because
last night's game will have no real impact on how
I think about him down the road. I did think
that you saw some things last night that were part
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and parcel to why a player as talented and generational
as Aaron Rodgers was not considered a great leader and
was not did not win at the level that his
talent would have made you think he was going to
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win at Because there was no less than half a
dozen times last night where a play was not made
by the Steelers, or a pass was missed, or the
Texans got pressure quick pressure, and Aaron made it very
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clear to everyone on the field, in the stadium and
at home that that was someone else's fault. A lot
of pointing, a lot of gesticulation, a lot of making
it very clear to the whole world he's screwed up,
not me. Also, and I listen. I haven't watched the
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All twenty two. I don't know if the Texans changed
something in their coverage, but I do know that I've
seen Aaron do this in big spots before. One of
his guys let him down with a drop and he
simply stopped going to him. DK Metcalf, which was one
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of the reasons I thought the Steelers could win this game,
was getting DK Metcalf back. DK Metcalf was a featured
part of the game play early. He then had a
huge drop and Rogers didn't throw him another pass for
two hours, and that is those things have always been
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part of the Rogers experience, and his career is so
interesting because it would have seemed impossible. Demons, you weren't
You were only twelve years old and you were not
a big football fan as a little kid. But it
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would not have seemed believable at all in twenty ten
that Rogers would never get back to another Super Bowl.
It is not different at all from how people thought
about Mahomes after his first Super Bowl one an MVP,
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you know, instantly came on the scene and was awesome. Obviously,
Rogers had to sit, you know, for three years behind far,
but by his second year in the league was considered
maybe the best quarterback in football. And if in that
moment people had said Patrick's never making another Super Bowl,
it would have seemed impossible. That's what it felt like
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for Aaron and I know the biggest Rogers defenders, and
once upon a time I was I don't know if
I was one of the biggest Rogers defenders, but I
was certainly more sympathetic to his cause than I've been
over the last decade. There are extenuating circumstances and some
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really unfortunate playoff losses that had nothing to do with him. Okay,
so his first ever playoff game, demonse. They scored forty
five points and lost in overtime. Wow. The first ever
playoff game was a fifty one forty five lost to
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the Arizona Cardinals. Now the loss was on a strip
sack returned for a touchdown. But that you score forty
five points, that should be enough. Second year in the
playoffs they win the Super Bowl. I'm now going to
jump to the playoff losses that you feel like he
has no culpability. On twenty twelve, they score thirty one
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in the divisional round against San Francisco. The Niners and
Colin Kaepernick score forty five and just the Packers defense
has no answer whatsoever. Twenty sixteen, the Falcons put up
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forty four on the Packers defense in the NFC Championship game.
Feel like there's not much you can do there. The
very next year, twenty nineteen, the Niners and a rushing
attack that I think in that game they threw the ball.
Was that the game they threw the ball eight times. Yep,
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the Niners threw the ball eight times and scored thirty
seven points to go to the Super Bowl. Those three
playoff losses, and those are all huge ones. It's fair
to say, what did you want from Aaron? What more
could he have done? I'll add one more. The year
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they're defending their championship, they're fifteen to one. They're at
home against the New York Giants. The Giants score thirty
seven points in freezing cold and send them home to
go on to win the Super Bowl. Those ones, right,
Those Packers' defenses were brutal, right, right. There are some
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other ones though that that was not the story. And
people remember the Seattle NFC championship game, and what they
remember is the Packers were up sixteen to nothing and
nineteen to seven Demons with three minutes left in that
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game of nineteen to seven, with three minutes left in
the game, they end up allowing a fake field goal touchdown,
they allow an on side kick. They then don't get tough,
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they don't get the coin toss. In overtime, Russell Wilson
hits a thirty five yard pass. They go to the
Super Bowl, end up losing to Tom Brady and the Patriots.
What people don't remember so much about that game was
Rogers was awful. He had one touchdown, two picks, a
fifty six rating, and they couldn't score in the red zone.
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The next year, they're playing a Cardinals team. This is
the game where Rogers hits back to back hail mary's
to force overtime. And what they and when I say
back to back hail mary's again, if people can't visualize
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the situation. They are in a fourth and twenty Demons
on their own four yard line with fifty five seconds left,
and Rogers hits a sixty yard pass. They then rush
to the line of scrimmage, couple deep shots, and then
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five seconds left, on the forty one Rogers hits another
hail Mary. He threw one hundred and one yards of
passes on that possession to Jeff Janis to tie a
playoff game. And then on the very first possession of overtime,
the Cardinals go right down the field and score. The
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first play of overtime, Larry Fitzgerald takes it seventy five yards.
They score the next play, But in that game, prior
to those two hail Marys, the Packers had fourteen points.
Rogers had a passer rating in the fifties again, had
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one hundred and fifty yards, one touchdown, one pick, and then,
obviously people remember the very end NFC Championship game against
Tom Brady and Tampa is really bad. In the first half,
they dig a huge hole. They then are down eight
with two and a half minutes left, they can't punch
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it in. Laflora kicks the weird field goal, and then
his final playoff game with the Steelers, the Niners did
not score an offensive touchdown, but Rogers once again had
a really weird game where all he would do was
target Devonte Adams and they end up losing the game
on a blocked punt touchdown thirteen to ten, with Rogers
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kind of throwing away the final possession. So what we
with all that said? He's a four time MVP who
has the all time record for passer rating and as
far as the all time record for lowest interception percentage,
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and at times looked like the most physically gifted player
of the position's ever seen. But the combination of his
what I would call prickly leadership style, plus it's not
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me it's you when things went wrong. Plus not playing
to an Aaron Rodgers level consistently in the playoffs. Is
why a guy that good is going to finish his
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career eleven and ten in the playoffs or is it
eleven and eleven now? Oh, eleven and eleven in the
playoffs because they lost yesterday and with only the one
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trip to the super Bowl. If I were doing the
all time quarterback rankings, he has the talent of a
no doubt top five guy, but he can't. And I
understand it's become very in vogue to throw you know
a lot of people in top fives. You're not going
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to find a bigger Matt Stafford fan than me. But
the idea that Stafford is a super Bowl went away
from being top five all time quarterback is obviously, on
its face ludicrous. But if we're talking about the greatest
quarterbacks ever, you have Brady Mahomes manning Montana, you can
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argue about the order for them. For me, John Elway,
and I don't know what you want to do with
the old folks, Johnny Unitas, Bart star, Otto Graham, those guys,
but they've got to be accounted for in some degree.
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I can't speak to them, but I can't pretend you
can't do an NBA Top ten and not include Russell
and Will. I don't know that you can do an
NF Top ten quarterbacks and not include Unitis, Star and Graham.
So I don't know what you want to do with them.
But now we're at eight names, and then we can
start having the Steve Young, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew
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Brees discussion. And I know my colleagues are about to
put Josh Allen in there as well. It's the most
talented players. You see Josh Allen wildcard, we can the
oh yeah. And so I think it's fair if this
is the end for Rogers, one of the greatest players
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ever who underachieved. There is an element of Wilt Chamberlain
to Rogers in that a uniquely talented player that up
to that point in his career we had never seen
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anyone quite like him, but didn't quite win at the
level that that talent would have demanded, and it was
because of some own leadership and stylistic failings. So there's
my Rogers piece of it. I know you want to
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ask me about the Tomlin piece.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So there's rumors about them wanting to move on from
Tomlin the Steelers at that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Do you think that they should?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't think I don't think that they should, but
I would understand if they did that these playoffer It's
not just that he's now tied Marvin Lewis for most
consecutive losses in the playoffs at seven. It's not just
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that it'll now be ten years since they won a
playoff game, at a minimum, it's that they have been
wholly non competitive in these playoff games. The first one,
so well, if we're gonna do the full streak, I
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guess I gotta be fair. The first one was the
conference championship game to the Patriots, and again you're playing
an all time Patriots seems conference championship game, but you
instantly fell down ten to nothing. You're down three, thirty
six to nine with minutes left, you lose thirty six
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to seventeen. So you get annihilated in that football game
that's lost one, lost two on this Timelin losing streak.
You're at home with the bye, playing Blake Bortles Jacksonville Jaguars,
and twenty minutes into the game, Demanse, you're down twenty
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one to nothing, and you end up scoring a bunch
of points. You know, you cut it to seven a
couple times, but you trail the entirety of the game.
You lose forty five forty two, and they get grizzlier
from there. Lost three on this playoff losing streak. You're
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playing the Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield. You are down
twenty eight to nothing in the first quarter and you
lose forty eight to thirty seven. Game two, Al, I'm sorry,
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Game two, where are we having this? Game? Game five?
Game five of the playoff losing streak, you're playing the Chiefs.
You go up seven nothing on a TJ. Watt stripsack
in the second quarter. You then find yourself down after
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being up seven to nothing, thirty five to seven, thirty
five to seven. Game six of the playoff losing streak
last year against Buffalo. Midway through the second quarter, you're
down twenty one to nothing, and so you lose thirty
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one seventeen.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
If they keep calling he has to focus on offense.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The well, hold on, hold on, just because I got
that wrong. That wasn't the I got the year wrong
on that last one. The Bills loss that was not
last year. When you're down, that was two years ago.
Last year's loss was to the Ravens, where once again,
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at halftime, you're down twenty one to nothing and so
and then this year was a weird one because you
were in it, but your offense could do nothing, and
then you get annihilated, but in the final score. So
I would understand if Steelers fans are like, I'm I've
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had my full here Phil here, But I still think
he is a really good coach, and I would be
scared of getting on that coaching carousel again. Now what
were you saying, Demanday.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh, I just think that maybe focus on something else,
bringing somebody else to help Tomlin on the offensive side
of things. It's clear that he doesn't. That's not his
side of the ball, I think. So that's a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So here's the thing, though, So I think that makes
sense in general, except for in these playoff games last night,
notwithstanding the defense has been getting just absolutely crushed.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now, I want to give the Texans their credit and
we'll talk more about the Texans on Thursday show. Weird
game because CJ was awful. CJ was awful, and it
didn't matter because that defense was that good and that
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defense was that ferocious, But you saw how tough it
is to do business that way, because as great as
that defense was and as inept as that Steelers offense was,
that was a one point game or a four point
game deep into the game. Yeah, it felt like they
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were one busted coverage away at any point from holy shit,
the Steelers are gonna steal this. I mean that game
seven to six entering the fourth quarter. It's ten to
six in the fourth quarter with the Steelers having the
ball before the Rankins fumble return touchdown that essentially ended
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the game. That Texans defense and Demico Ryans deserved massive credit.
But if that's how that offense looked against a good
but not great Steelers defense in a game they had
Nicocollins for a lot of next week that defense is
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gonna have to be just as good because I don't
know what that Texans dophin is gonna be able to do.
And by the way, I want to say some of
the Nico Collins thing, Nico Collins pretty clearly got concussed
on like the third playoff of the game. Yes, and
they they put him back out there, and I understand
it's the playoffs, and I get they put him back
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out there again. This is this is naked, reckless speculation
by me. It looked to me like he got concussed
on the first drive of the game. They checked him
for it, they put him back out there, and then
when he got hit again later in the game, they
it was such a bad concussion. At that point, they
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said he didn't know where he was. He tried to
walk back to the huddle and they had to cart
him off. That's brutal, man And again, maybe it was
just coincidence that it looked like he got concussed. He didn't,
and then a pretty typical hit gave him one of
the worst concussions of the NFL season. But that's hard
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to sell me and the Patriots Christian Gonzalez got a concussion,
tried to go back out there, and they prevented him
from going back out there, and he went in the protocol.
Maybe so, maybe both those guys are missing next week.
It would be impossible for me to think Nico Collins
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gonna be able to play next week. Credit to the
Texans defense. Maybe you know what demands, Maybe Caleb should
call CJ and give him some pointers on how to
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talk Niners Eagles.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
After a season of iffness, the Eagles were defeated by
the Niners, even with George Kittle getting an achilles injury.
Jan's got to get close of the year, but he's
just doing everything with nothing. You've been on this train
for the entire season. How are you feeling out that
Philly is out of the postseason?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Listen, I don't have anything against the players on the Eagles,
to be clear. I find their coach wildly annoying, and
the fans that I have interacted with in person, some
of them have been some of the most irrationally annoying
(33:48):
adults I've met in ten years. So that's colored maybe
my feelings on the Eagles a bit, to be fair.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
With that said, I'm able to remove myself from those
feelings to analyze what I think is going to happen
with a team, not what I want. Everything I said
right there informs what I want to happen, but the
games and the information inform what I think is going
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to happen. And what I thought was gonna happen with
the Eagles in the playoffs was what happened with them
all year long, which is there impossibly inconsistent, wildly underachieving
offense would be that in the playoffs, and even against
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a Niners defense that was starting three linebackers who were
not on the roster, two of them a month ago,
and all backups, that is exactly what that e team
ended up, being, a defense that could only do so much,
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as great as it was, and an offense that killed
their season. You can't have a higher three and out
percentage than just about any team in the NFL in
a decade and flip a switch come to the playoffs.
You can't have fourteen of your thirty six halves this
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year score seven points or less and just flip a
switch come the playoffs. And what has been consistent under
Sirianni's tenure in Philly is every year, even before Saquon,
they had a dominant running game with a quarterback that
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was a huge part of it. They did not have
that this year, Saquon wasn't as dominant, the offensive line
wasn't as good, Jalen wouldn't run the way he would
in the past, and they became a more traditional Other
teams were able to defend them in a more traditional
(36:16):
fashion where we don't have to devote every single one
of our resources to stopping the run. We're gonna be
able to devote a little bit more to stopping the pass.
And they didn't have a consistent drop back passing offense
all year. And for me, this season is a far
(36:41):
bigger indictment on Siriani than it is on Jailen. Jalen
has earned, to me, far more benefit of the doubt
than Siriani. We also know, listen, this was not a
good game by Jalen Hurts. This was the There have
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only been three He's lost four career playoff games, a
super Bowl and three in the wildcard round. The three
wildcard round losses were all three losses where he played poorly.
So this was only the third time he's ever they've
lost a playoff game, and one of the fair fingers
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you can point is at him. With that said, that
happens and Jalen I thought was a steady hand for
this team, even though I thought his ability to read
the field and his ability to make passes to every
quadrant of the field or lack of ability tore hurt
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them this year. But that that's a You'll deal with
that because he's such a good leader, he's so tough,
he's been so clutch historically, Like he's not listen. Is
he one of the five best quarterbacks in football? To me?
Pretty clearly not? Is he a guy you can win
a Super Bowl with? Literally? Obviously? Yes? Has he upped
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his level of play in the two biggest games he's
ever played in, Absolutely so you can deal with some
of that from jailing a bad game, missing a couple guys.
Sirianni's a different situation where there were three major jobs
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for Nick Sirianni this year that presented themselves during the year.
The first one was as an offensive minded head coach,
how do we get our offense on track? He never
answered that bell. The second one was do I need
(38:59):
to make a mid season coordinator change as we've done
in the past, because Kevin Bittullo ain't ready for this
and isn't equipped for it. He chose not to, and
the third one was am I going to be able
to get my arms around whatever's going on with aj Brown?
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And if not, do we need to cut bait with
him at the trade deadline? He was not able to
get his arms around it at any point all year,
and they didn't trade him. He did find time to
excuse me, he did find time to flip his shit
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at Bill's fans for no reason whatsoever, and to generally
act in a way no other NFL head coach act.
But he didn't do a good job this year. And
we have seen this from Philadelphia before, so I will
(40:12):
say it again. Nick Sirianni enters next season with one
of the hottest seats in the NFL, like because so
many coaches got fired. It's hard to really like find
(40:32):
coaching hot seats because most of the guys on the
hot seat got fired already. But I would say next year,
just sitting here today, Aaron Glenn after that train wreck
of a season, Zach Taylor after three consecutive missed postseasons
(40:53):
with Joe Burrow, Shane Steichen after another Colt season where
ugh they were okay. Tomlin, well, I don't know the
Tomlin thing. That's the thing is I Tomlin, I'm not.
I'm not sure where that's going to go. Tomlin Lafloor.
(41:13):
Are they going to be there or not? Like those
are the two guys. Todd Bowles enters next season with
a warm seat, but I don't know if any of
those seats are hotter than Sirianni's next year.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Well yeah, now, all those other coaches, this guy doesn't
even really get along with his players, So I think
those other guys don't have that that to them.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
The most of those other the Packers would be the
exception to this. Most of those other teams also don't
have a front office that feels like, yeah, you have
a super Bowl caliber, great team. And here is the
other thing for Philly that void money time bomb is waiting.
(42:08):
And by that, here's what I mean. I'm gonna see
if I can find the tweet that the Eagles run
their cap in a way. Let me see if I
can find it no one else does. And if I
do find it, I'll send it to you guys. Maybe
we can get it on the show. Maybe not, but
if not, it's okay. The I should have pulled this
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up before, and okay, here it is. I'm I'm gonna
text it to our group chat right now. This is
from Dan Rodgers. Uh, so credit to him for doing
the work here. Uh and sorry for doing this on
the fly, guys the Eagles that one of the reasons
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the Eagles are able to have such a great roster
is because they borrow from future ye and oh you
know what, I gave Dan Rodgers credit. I really should
have given SF Data forty nine ers credit because they're
the ones who built the graphic initially. So the Eagles
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have structured contracts to where and I don't think this
is necessarily dumb at all. But as I've talked about
ninety seconds of nerd cap stuff here, every single dollar
you pay any player on your roster at some point
shows up on your salary cap books as a salary
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cap charge. The Eagles because their owner is willing to
pay a lot of cash up front, the Eagles borrow
from way down the line years by adding voidable us
on the end of contracts to stack the roster now,
(44:04):
because it's like, we've got a super Bowl caliber roster team, quarterback,
all of it. And then they take their medicine in
a couple of years, have a reset season, and then
you know, started started anew but they have done it
in a way that no team has ever and don't
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put the tweet up yet no team has ever structured
it contracts quite like this. Like there's a half dozen
teams in the league that just don't do void years,
that have zero zero players on their salary cap with
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voidable future years. And again, if I'm describing this, put
demonster on the screen the way to explain it, I
think is the best way. So, like, let me use
a league averag team. As far as void money in
the future, the Rams are dead in the middle, seventeenth
out of thirty two teams and most money on void years.
They have forty seven million in future salary cap charges
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that are gonna hit their books in future years for
money they have played. They have paid players that are
on their current roster who won't be on the roster
those years, do you understand, So they have borrowed forty
seven million dollars from future RAMS teams for the right exactly.
(45:38):
So now the cap will go up, and so they'll
you know, and they probably think and in a few
years we won't have a super expensive quarterback. It'll be fine.
So the Rams are league average at forty seven million.
Now throw up the tweet. The Eagles are at four
hundred and twenty two million dollars borrowed from future cap years,
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including two hundred and forty nine million dollars as it's
currently written, borrowed from the twenty twenty eight Philadelphia Eagles.
So Noah. The only other team in the league that's
above two hundred million is the Browns, and more than
(46:27):
half of that is the disasters to Sean Watson contract.
The The Broncos are in fifth. They did it to
deal with in part, the Russell Wilson of dead money,
you know, so the dead money that the Lions, you know,
have borrowed from well down the road a bit because
(46:48):
they feel like, basically the Lions philosophy, I think, is
be as awesome as we can be right now, and
then by the time this void money hits golf will
be off the books.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
The Eagles have a contractual bomb ticking in the form
of the twenty twenty eight season is when the chickens
come home to roost and you retool, which makes the
twenty twenty sixth season all the more valuable to them.
(47:21):
And it also is why when people talk about them
trading AJ Brown. It's really not that simple so AJ Brown,
because they've structured his contract, and with aj they have
all those void years as well. If they wanted to
cut him, demonse right now for next season. AJ Brown's
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cap hit is a super manageable, super cheap twenty three
million dollars. But if they were to cut him, his
cap hit to not play for them is seventy two
million dollars because all that other money gets accelerated. If
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they trade him, his cap hit becomes forty three million dollars.
Now you can split that up into the twenty twenty
six and twenty twenty seven year. We don't have to
spend as much time on this as I'm doing right now.
My point is this the Eagles have because they have
an aggressive owner who's willing to spend money. They have
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an aggressive GM, they have put and they won a
damn Super Bowl like they went to Souper Bowl two
years ago or three years ago. They won it last year.
This philosophy objectively has worked and has been smart, but
it makes this type of season failing all the more painful,
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and it makes.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
They're gonna be trash in a few years.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Well, I don't think money listen. I think that they
will have much like they had after their last super
Bowl win. A couple of years later, they had a
super down year and then immediately got back. So I
don't think they're gonna be It's not like the Saints.
You're like just off in the wilderness four years, but
you're going to reset the roster in a couple of years.
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So having it's a really weird trend they've been on
of the last five years. Bounced in round one, make
a super Bowl, bounced in round one, win the super Bowl,
bounced in round one. Now you win another super Bowl,
make another super Bowl. Feels great. If next year goes poorly,
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I think a ton of changes come to Philly. So
that's my Eagles, you know, stance on it. And I
just think Sirianni's got to grow up a bit.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
And I also think that the thing for Jalen is
because the film is never gonna be super impressive. The
thing about your your rep being I'm just a winner,
you gotta win, and them getting bouncing around one in
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a home playoff game and him playing poorly, it's not,
you know, cataclysmic, but it dings him a bit. All right,
let's talk Niners for a second.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
So we know the forty nine ers guys have been
dropping throughout the year and they just lost.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, it's that power plant. Have you following that story?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Well, what's going on with the power plant?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
The I don't know is probably I probably sound like
an idiot, but there is some like energy way station
or something that's next to the Niners practice facility in stadium.
And this guy who wrote a book called Sunlight His
Life went out there with a gossometer and check checked
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like the energy waves. And basically he's telling us the
Niners players, ligaments, tendons, all that shit are yes, exactly
getting Chernobyl. And that's why for a decade they've been
the most injured team. I'm saying I can't say the theory,
(51:24):
but I'm not saying I don't believe it. They have
been so injured every year for a decade and there's
been no explanation. This guy thinks he figured it out.
I can't rule it out, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
So, yeah, Kittle just tore his achilles.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Do you believe in this team still or is this
just too many injuries for them to still keep winning.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I mean it. We just saw him play the Seahawks
and that game was close. They were in it. Like
that game turned, didn't that game turn on a Brock
interception late? And I'm gonna give Brock some credit here
in a minute, but like I let me let me
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check this. I feel like that's how I remember it. Yeah,
I mean threw that game was third. I guess turned
is maybe unfair, but that game was thirteen to three Niners,
and yeah, that's the man threw I'm sorry, thirteen to
three Seahawks. I misspoke. Thirteen to three Seahawks and the
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Niners in the early fourth quarter have a second in
goal from the six to make it thirteen to ten,
and that was the past he threw to McCaffrey. McCaffrey
bobbled it and the Seahawks guy took it and that
basically ended it. Point is they were in that game
kind of their The Niners defense did a good job
(52:57):
against Darnold in the game for the one seed last
Sunday night or the last Saturday night two Saturdays ago,
so it feels like ruling them out would be disrespectful.
But Seattle's on two weeks is on a week arrest.
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The Niners are on a short week. The Niners are
keeping it together with Scotch tape.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
I will listen to the Seahawks too. They have their
most of their team. This is understandable. They're playing with
guys that weren't even playing this year, and.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
It would take a Darnald catastrophe, I think for the
Seahawks to win that game. But none of that should
take anything away from what I think is an all
time great coaching job by Kyle Shanahan. Just an all
time coaching job by Shanahan this year. And I know
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he turned the ball over, I know he made some mistakes.
I thought perty had a hell of a gutsy performance
against an excellent Eagles defense. Like I'll give Party credit now.
Was the nicest pass thrown all day by a Niner
thrown by their wide receiver. Yes, but I still will
give Party credit for what I thought was a really
(54:25):
impressive and another nice come from behind playoff victory like
that was, And the play to McCaffrey was great and
so but I think this is the end of the road.
I also think that is a hell of an impressive
season for the Niners in that division, and with those injuries,
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all right, we maybe could have led with this. Let's
talk about the game of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Your boy Caleb pulled off the upset. Where are we
calling this an upset? Were they favored in that game?
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Flipped?
Speaker 1 (54:58):
It went back and forth?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yes, so he pulled he pulled off the comeback. I
think they won a game where that he didn't lead
in an offensive snap. Is this you put you put
you waved him earlier in the year. Is this where
you imagined him last year when you said that they
were going to win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Well, I didn't say they're gonna win the super Bowl.
Make the super Bowl? Sorry and listen. Yeah, I thought
Caleb at the beginning of this year was shaky because
he was and he has been shaky in the first
half of all three of these Packer games. They played
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the Packers three times de Monsey, they beat him twice.
They had the ball with the lead, zero snaps. Yeah,
in the whole, in the whole, in all three games. Right,
the Packers had one hundred and six snaps with the lead,
the Bears had zero, and the Bears won two of them.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
Resiliency.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
But the reason that so there's I mean, there's two
angles here. There's the Packers absolutely blowing it even though
Jordan Love your guy was awesome, and just find like
I've never seen a team the Packers had the ball
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seven times after going up twenty one to three and
scored a touchdown and never turned it over and the
Bears got uh did turn it over and the Bears
came back. Anyway, like when the when the Jags came
back against the Chargers four years ago, the Jags every
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single time they had the ball to score a touchdown,
the Bears are kicking field goals, they're getting stopped on
fourth down, and they still came back. That's a catastrophe
of a loss.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Ben Johnson thing, Yes, it's in Johnson.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
What direction well in a good way.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Like I just feel like if he's able to do
that type of stuff even after.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
The ball goals, I mean, that's what's interesting. He also
had what I thought was a bizarre fourth down decision
early in the game when they went for it on
like fourth and four on their own thirty two, Like
I didn't know what they were doing. He seemed like
he was on tilt. But they came back, and yes,
he gets a lot of credit for the play design
on coming back. But the story of that game and
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why that game will be remembered is it was Caleb
Williams on full display that there are things he can
do that only two other guys in the league, Mahomes
and Josh can do. That throw he made on fourth
(57:43):
and eight down eleven season, on the line, gliding to
his left without his feet set, with three defenders around
the guy he's throwing to. I say this without hyperbole.
It's one of the five best catches, one of the
(58:04):
five best throws when you consider the degree of difficulty,
the context and the stakes in the last decade in
the NFL, and the the things he can do cannot
be taught. So you just hope he gets better at
(58:25):
the things that are easily taught. But the Bears that
teams this year not named the Chicago Bears demanse when
trailing by double digits in the final five minutes are
three and one fifty nine. The Bears are three and three.
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It is these comebacks that they've had. It's not down
four goes, get a drive, it's down two scores late,
and they just do it again and again. Now that's
a not year over year, Well, the Chiefs weren't down big.
(59:11):
They just winning the close games.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
And but to your point about the Chiefs, that's that's
not year over year sustainable, but it might be sustainable
next week. It does mean that they are the only
team in these playoffs that if they're down ten entering
the fourth quarter feels fine.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
And I if Matt Stafford retires, and I don't think
he will, but just let's say they win the Super
Bowl and he's like, all right, I'm done for me.
Kalabile inter next year. The best quarterback in the NFC
(59:57):
as good as Jordan Love was yesterday. I like Caleb Moore.
I think he is. I'd take him over Golf. I'd
take him over anyone in the NFC East, take him
over anyone in the NFC South. I is Stafford's the best,
but he he is that guy and for all you know,
whatever people want to say about his personality or his emotion,
(01:00:24):
how emotional he is, and you can see the emotion
for good or for bad during the game. His teammates
have rallied around him, and his coach loves him, and
I I think Caleb Stafford next week is the game
(01:00:44):
of the divisional round weekend on the Green Bay side
of things. Quickly before we get to Bill's Jaggs demonse,
this team was nine to three and one, and then
Micah Parsons got hurt and they never one again. Two
teams this year anticipated they were gonna have Micah Parsons,
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and when they didn't have him, their season just fell apart.
And it's now The Packers should have won that game anyway,
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Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
All right, probably game of the week. Trevor ended up
losing this game, and I'm a sure guy the Bills won. Yeah,
you called that one. You said earlier in the show
that the winner of this game was going to the
super Bowl. After seeing that game and how it played out,
is that's still how you feel.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I mean, listen, the Bills are a flawed team. They're
not as bad as some people make them out to be.
They have a great offensive line, they have a great
running back, they have a good pass defense, they don't
have good receivers, and they don't have a good run defense.
But they also have the second best quarterback of his
generation and the best quarterback in these playoffs with respect
(01:02:44):
to Stafford and Josh is on an all time playoff heater.
Since Josh Allen Demons lost to the Bengals in the
Divisional round three years ago, he's played six playoff games.
Now he's lost two of them to mahone. But in
those six playoff games, he has sixteen touchdowns, no turnovers,
(01:03:05):
and a one oh five rating. And this is why
some folks thought they were defending Josh Allen by giving
pre writing excuses for how the Bills were gonna lose
and explaining how it was unfair to ask Josh Allen
to win a road wild card game against the Jags,
(01:03:29):
and that's disrespect. What doing that does is it lowers
the stakes. And if you lower the stakes, then when
you come through, it's less impactful, it's less resonant. It
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was important that Josh Allen find a way to win
that game. It was important after in twenty twenty three
he had the ball in his hands down less than
a touchdown in the fourth quarter of the Divisional round
against the Chiefs and didn't come through. And then in
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twenty twenty four had the ball in his hands down
less than a touchdown in the conference championship game against
the Chiefs and didn't come through that. This year, he
had the ball in his hands in the fourth quarter
down less than a touchdown against the Jags, and he
made one of the best plays of his life, that
forty yard throw down the field to Brandon Cooks to
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then set up the game winning touchdown. That's how you
write your legend. And if the Bills now have an
opportunity to go into Denver and keep in mind Josh
Allen played college football in Wyoming, which is at a
higher elevation than Denver, so he's used to it. He
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goes in there against that defense and does it again.
It then gets to be a game away from finally
reaching a super Bowl and knowing he's not gonna have
to deal with Mahomes to get there. He was great.
He was great. Now do people go a little over
to you know, Collins calling him the greatest I think
(01:05:17):
the greatest quarterback he's ever seen. Is that too much
for me? Sure? But he's great. He is a future
Hall of Famer. He is at his peak of his powers.
He's banged up, it doesn't matter. He's finding a way.
That's how you become a legend. I hate that it
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came at the expense of my guy, Trevor. Trevor in
that game, Demanse third quarterback ever to in the fourth
quarter of a playoff game, have two go ahead touchdowns
and lose the game Drew Brees in twenty eleven. It
happened to Josh in the third seconds game and Trevor
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in that game. Now, Trevor made a huge mistake. At
the end of that game, you're down three of a
minute left, you have the strongest leaid kicker in the league.
You don't need to force it, and he forced it.
And the reason they were in that position was because,
in my opinion, the Bills made a huge mistake by
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scoring when they did. There's a minute five left, the
Jags have no timeouts. You're on the one. You can
do a fake quarterback sneak. Essentially you don't have to go,
but you don't have to kneel and lose a bunch
of yards. But the optimals thing for the Bills to
do in that spot would have been snap the ball
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to Josh, have Josh fall down right where he gets
it a little bit forward. The Jags aren't gonna hitch
you because they want you to score. And then you
have three timeouts. There's a minute five left, the Jags
have zero. You can it's a very simple math equation there.
(01:07:08):
What scares you more if your goal is to win
the game only having three chances to get one yard
and the Jags being left with less than twenty seconds,
or having four chances to get one yard and the
(01:07:29):
Jags being left potentially with a minute. The Bills and
Sean McDermott chose the latter. They obviously should have chosen
the former. The optimal decision there is what Vrabel did
at the end of a first half earlier this year.
Have your guy go down, let the clock run all
the way to twenty seconds, call your first time out,
(01:07:52):
and then you have three shots if you need it
to score and leave the Jags with no time. The
Jags were thrilled the Bills scored when they did, but
then Trevor made the big mistake. And if Trevor had
come through, if Trevor had driven the length of the
(01:08:13):
field in that final minute and the Jags scored a touchdown,
I promise you I wouldn't be on TV or on
here killing Josh Allen. You gotta win that game. He
was great. That would have been a junior varsity version
of the thirteen seconds game when no one has ever
criticized him for that game. So it's not that it's
(01:08:35):
binary win or lose, but it is how did you
play and did you put your team in position? And
Josh was brilliant. Josh was absolutely brilliant. Did you want
to say something to Monsey.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yeah, no, he was solid And it kind of reminded
me when when they got the ball after the picker
just in the late games. I just kind of felt
late in the game, I just felt like the Bills
was their destiny.
Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
And I knew that Josh Allen was kind of gonna
do whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
You're felt like, yes, if you had that confidence that
he's going to make this happen. Yeah, and that's the
last step of greatness.
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Yeah. This is like a very very sidebar the Jags.
The Jags reporter that you know telling hype and Liam
calling up, you know, saying you'll get him next year.
That was crazy, Like that was because I feel like
there's a lot of outrage for it, and.
Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I just what do you think of the outrage.
Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I think I think that it's for something else, Like
I think that I don't know, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
That it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Like I think that there's like those press conferences are
there for you know, reporters. I don't want to say
poke fun at coaches, but just kind of make their
life a little bit more difficult and explain themselves. And
I feel like most of the time it's in I
wouldn't call it condescending or derogatory, but it's more negative
than it is positive. And this one time somebody trying
to make it positive. It people are pissed about it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
The number of people that publicly whined about this old
black lady trying to make Liam Cohen feel better. There
as so much in this Let me tell you something,
You know what feels great no matter how down you are,
having an old, nice black woman tell you pick yourself up.
Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I'm just not get it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Yes, And and that woman's been part of the press
for decades and now would it be a problem if
that's what the entirety of the press conference was.
Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Or if it was like a regular season, like if
it were like games but they're out of the playoffs,
like it's done.
Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Everybody's Some of the media is so self serious. It
was thirty seconds, doesn't matter. It also gave me an
idea for this week's sports media on Budsman on the
TV show. I'll share it with you guys right now,
a little sneak preview because I loved it. I think
every NFL team's postgame press conference for the coaches needs
(01:11:22):
to have two designated chairs and they each get one question. Okay,
and one chair is and you call it the homer
and the hater, and the coach has to answer a
question the homer gets to say whatever they want it,
pick them up, and the hater gets to just absolutely
(01:11:44):
even if wins or losses, rip them the And so
the homer and the hater, the coach can decide he
has to start with one and end with the other,
and he can decide how he wants to do it.
And in the middle of everybody else's questions. Uh, but
(01:12:05):
I and here's the other thing. Just to my media colleagues,
you're allowed to have an opinion on that, lady, and
keep it to yourself or keep it to your group chat.
(01:12:25):
You don't have to tweet about it. You really really don't.
All right, we've gone so long, we haven't even gotten
to two of the games, So let me just try
to quickly get to these other two Patch Chargers. Listen,
Drake May was shaky early and then was very good late.
(01:12:45):
It was a pretty typical first playoff game. You saw
some jitters, but he's so talented that he came through
and the Patriots defense was awesome. I'm not I spent
enough on this yesterday on TV arguing with Danny, and
at this point it just the facts are what the
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facts are. Justin Herbert's played ten consecutive f minus quarters
of playoff football, Justin Herbert has the second lowest career
playoff passer rate, ahead of only Andy Dalton. Justin Herbert,
now that the all twenty two guys have gotten a
hold of that film, had guys open the first three
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quarters of that game a lot and wouldn't pull the trigger.
Justin Herbert's comments after the game make it sound like
a guy who's in his own head. No one has
denied that Justin Herbert is talented, But the fact that
in consecutive years he has played his single worst game
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of the year in a horrible postseason loss is not nothing.
The fact that no quarterback in NFL history has lost
three playoff games in a row where their defense forces
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ten turnovers like Herbert has is not nothing. No quarterback
in the last quarter century has lost three playoff games
in a row where their defense forces more than five turnovers.
Only one other quarterback, Chad Pennington, has lost three playoff
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games in a row where their defense forced more than
four turnovers more than four turnovers in the last twenty
five years, Herbert's defense has forced ten turnovers in all
three of these games. His defense has put his team
in the catbird seed early in these games, by a
lot or by a little. Three of these games he
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has been somewhere from below average in the first one
to god awful in the last two. That is what
it is. And if six years into his career you're
still holding on to what a pretty ball he throws
against the Broncos in September, I don't know what to
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tell you for the Patriots moving forward. They should be
able to handle Houston. As great as that Houston offense is.
The Patriots in a really good position to either be
going to Denver, who they're better than, or at home
(01:15:53):
against Buffalo who they've beaten, and last, but not least
Rams Panthers. Listen, this would have been a catastrophe for
the Rams, a true how the hell did that happen? Lost? Instead,
(01:16:16):
it was just an ugly, ugly win where Stafford was
not that good and Puca saved the game with a
super high IQ play breaking up the interception. I also
had demons if I can pat myself on the back
an all time impromptu line. Yesterday on the TV show
did you see It?
Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
We showed Pooka saving the game breaking up would have
been the game ceiling.
Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Have something to do with the tackle that turned the
tide or something.
Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
No, no, no no, I said, because it was such
a heady play by Puca. And I said that Puoka
uses up all his IQ points while on the field,
and it's just once he leaves the once he leaves
the game, he's just he's such a smart player, Like
it's just it's the reserve is totally tapped. And the
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next six days he can't use any IQ points because
he has to save him for the game. And then
in the game, he's just unbelievable and he's making smart
plays and he's one of the best receivers we've ever seen.
And then the game ends and he's just like in
rest mode and so but he saved the game. But
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here's thing, it's the playoffs. So it doesn't matter how
it looks in a win. We know the Rams can
be great offensively. We know they can be and now
they get an opportunity to be great offensively against a
bad Bears defense. And you know the Panthers, that was
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a valiant performance. They were. They hung way to uper
than I thought they would. They had a real chances.
Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Once man, we don't care how it might be something
we might not know.
Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
I don't. I don't buy that. But it's a nice
season for them. Yeah, this is like a cowardly way
to do things. But right now, this moment, as we
sit at the divisional round, because I had said I
thought going into the playoffs, I said, I thought the
Rams were going to the super Bowl, and there were
my pick to win it. Once the you know, when
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the playoffs were set, and I said, I thought the
winner of Bills Jags goes to the super Bowl. That
is what I right now, that would be my pick
Rams over Bills in the super Bowl. That's what I
think we are going to get. And the Rams survive
in advance.
Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Uh so heartbreak for Josh coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Well, beginning to the super Bowl is a big deal.
I mean that, yes, for the and for the Bills fans,
that would be five super bowls and five super Bowl losses,
and so that obviously wouldn't be great. All right, do
me a favor. I appreciate everyone who's sent in questions today.
We will add those to the questions we're gonna do
on Thursday. We'll do more questions from the audience, and
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these on Thursday but I got a run, great show,
great weekend to playoff football. We will see you guys
back here on Thursday. A huge thanks to hard Rock
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you to you. De Monsday, Say hi to your mom
for me, who's out in LA. And I will see
you guys on Thursday. I'll see you on with Colin
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in about an hour. What's right,
Welcome in what driving the great Episode four fourteen fresh
off inarguably the greatest wild card weekend in NFL history,
And we were listen Sunday night football Chargers Patriots was
fine but not great, and last night's game was a
(00:26):
tough watch, but at least close until it was just
a catastrophe. But prior to that, we were on the
following run of football games. Game two, seventy two of
the NFL season Raven Steelers comes down to the final moments.
Game one of the College Football Playoff All Miss Miami,
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one of the best college football games in a decade.
Game two of College FOOTBA Playoffs Indiana Trunc's Oregon. Game
one of the NFL Playoffs, Panthers ten and a half
point home down against the Rams, up at the two
minute warning, Rams comeback. Game two an instant, all time
legacy writing classic between the Packers and the Bears. Packers
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up at the two minute warning and up eighteen in
that game, Bears come back and win. Game three, Jags Bills,
the There are four different lead changes in the fourth quarter,
including a final two minute comeback by the Bills. And
Game four of the NFL Playoffs, Eagles Niners another comeback
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in the final two minutes, including our long national nightmare
of the Eagles title reign finally ending. Listen, not everybody
can defend a championship. Not everybody can win the Super
Bowl and then either win another one or go back
to the Super Bowl. The Chiefs did every single time
they won one. The Patriots did it a lot. That's
(02:00):
that's not how the Eagles roll, So be it. Uh
And if that sounds petty, and if I sound like
a hater, and if I sound a little unprofessional, the
answer to all those things are yes, yes, and yes.
I've had Eagles fans harassing me in the streets for
eleven months of how is that Super bowlf? Worst year
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the Chiefs had in a decade, Eagles coming off defending
Super Bowl championship one same amount of playoff games, Fellows,
It just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
How are you doing, Demanse, I'm doing great, Pops doing
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm doing you know what? I do. Think this, and
then we'll get in. I want to start with Monday
Night football and into this. I do think that of
the nine best teams in the NFL this year, eight
of them are left and the only one who maybe
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could argue was in the top eight that didn't make
it was Jacksonville. But Jacksonville over the course of the
entire season wasn't as like you could say, Jacksonville, you know,
was better than Houston this year. But it felt like
Houston had the really tough opening month and then was outstanding.
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Jacksonville was kind of mediocre for two months and then
finished really hot. And so the right eight teams are
left and it sets up my favorite weekend of the
sports year, Divisional Round weekend, which should be four epic
games before we get to Rogers, before we get to
any of that. I already reminded you guys. This episode
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of What's Right as all of Them is presented by
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I thought we were talking about the AJ Brown Nick
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Big Dom also was wearing a headset. I don't really
(04:01):
know why. I'm not sure what big Dom you know,
what he's chiming in on, but he's wearing a headset.
NFL all Pro teams have been announced. Gives you a
pretty strong indicator that Matt Stafford's gonna win League MVP. Now,
I understand last year was the rare year year that
first team All Pro Quarterback was one guy and the
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MVP was the other, with it being Lamar first Team
All Pro quarterback. But Josh League MVP. I don't think
that's gonna happen in back to back years. And Timmy
shallome wins Golden Globe for Best Actor in Marty Supreme.
I have not seen that yet. I want to see it.
I like Timmy Shallomey. I kind of like the way
(04:42):
he conducts himself. He also seems like a hell of
an actor. I really liked him in Dune. He has
an underrated small role in an all time movie, but
very hard, not hard to watch, but very emotional. And
Interstellar Tomorrow before real quick Toman say if you' seen Interstellar.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I've not seen it, but I've heard the pictures are great.
I've seen that one scene where like the thing is
coming to say.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Wave yes, oh yeah, yeah, okay, cool, So here's the thing.
Interstellar's Christopher Nolan movie. Almost all Christopher Nolan movies except
for the Dark Knight movie. He likes to mess with time,
so it's a little confusing to wrap your mind around
exactly all of it. But here's the other thing. It
(05:28):
will have you found. Give me thirty seconds here and
then we'll get to the sports. I promise, have you
found just like commercials or since you've become a dad
in the last two months, that all of a sudden,
like there are certain things that are otherwise would be banal.
That makes you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Emotional sit on a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, So Interstellar at it it's a you know,
interstellar space travel movie, but it's also a five daughter
relationship movie. I think Interstellar would make you cry, like
like tears down your face cry, but it is an
awesome movie. Timmy Shallamy is in that all right. Reminder,
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the worst game of the weekend, but it was the
game last night. Oh, two hundred and twenty nine thousand. Now,
maybe get to two hundred and thirty thousand by next week.
It was the worst game of the weekend, but it's
the one that happened last night. It also might have
been the final game for a legend. So we'll start
with Texan Steelers.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh yeah, wildcard. Wildcard weekend ended with the Texans defeating Steelers.
Steelers offense couldn't do anything, Texans offense couldn't do anything,
but the Texans won the game. When asked about his
future after the game, Aaron Rodgers said, I'm not going
to make any emotional decisions, but at forty two years old,
do you think that this is the end of the
road for him?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, I didn't think that at all going into the game,
because Rogers has been talking about how he thought he
would have one or two teams that would showed interest,
the fact that he had seemed to be playing some
of his best ball at the end of the year.
Steelers made the playoffs. All of that, but Buck and
Aikman talked like they knew the way Buck and Aikman
(07:35):
talked at the end of that game, and the way
ESPN produced the end of that game following Rogers and
all of that, it felt to me like they got
a heads up that he's planning on retiring now. If
this wasn't already the case thanks to Philip Rivers couple
(07:56):
game cameo, the long tail of Philip Rivers coming back
after five years on the couch is going to be that.
Certainly next year and maybe for the next couple after.
If any good team suffers a November or December quarterback injury,
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Rogers name will be floated and maybe he would come
back in a setting like that. You know something the
that if next year the Rams are nine to four
and Stafford goes down, could you know, could he come
back in that spot? I also think Aaron likes the
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spotlight enough that I don't think we are going to
get a quick resolution on this. I think he's going
to take his time. But I do think that last
night was the de facto ind for Aaron Rodgers, and
(09:05):
I do want to take some time here to talk
about how I will remember and think about Rogers, because
last night's game will have no real impact on how
I think about him down the road. I did think
that you saw some things last night that were part
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and parcel to why a player as talented and generational
as Aaron Rodgers was not considered a great leader and
was not did not win at the level that his
talent would have made you think he was going to
(09:54):
win at Because there was no less than half a
dozen times last night where a play was not made
by the Steelers, or a pass was missed, or the
Texans got pressure quick pressure, and Aaron made it very
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clear to everyone on the field, in the stadium and
at home that that was someone else's fault. A lot
of pointing, a lot of gesticulation, a lot of making
it very clear to the whole world he's screwed up,
not me. Also, and I listen. I haven't watched the
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All twenty two. I don't know if the Texans changed
something in their coverage, but I do know that I've
seen Aaron do this in big spots before. One of
his guys let him down with a drop and he
simply stopped going to him. DK Metcalf, which was one
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of the reasons I thought the Steelers could win this game,
was getting DK Metcalf back. DK Metcalf was a featured
part of the game play early. He then had a
huge drop and Rogers didn't throw him another pass for
two hours, and that is those things have always been
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part of the Rogers experience, and his career is so
interesting because it would have seemed impossible. Demons, you weren't
You were only twelve years old and you were not
a big football fan as a little kid. But it
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would not have seemed believable at all in twenty ten
that Rogers would never get back to another Super Bowl.
It is not different at all from how people thought
about Mahomes after his first Super Bowl one an MVP,
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you know, instantly came on the scene and was awesome. Obviously,
Rogers had to sit, you know, for three years behind far,
but by his second year in the league was considered
maybe the best quarterback in football. And if in that
moment people had said Patrick's never making another Super Bowl,
it would have seemed impossible. That's what it felt like
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for Aaron and I know the biggest Rogers defenders, and
once upon a time I was I don't know if
I was one of the biggest Rogers defenders, but I
was certainly more sympathetic to his cause than I've been
over the last decade. There are extenuating circumstances and some
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really unfortunate playoff losses that had nothing to do with him. Okay,
so his first ever playoff game, demonse. They scored forty
five points and lost in overtime. Wow. The first ever
playoff game was a fifty one forty five lost to
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the Arizona Cardinals. Now the loss was on a strip
sack returned for a touchdown. But that you score forty
five points, that should be enough. Second year in the
playoffs they win the Super Bowl. I'm now going to
jump to the playoff losses that you feel like he
has no culpability. On twenty twelve, they score thirty one
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in the divisional round against San Francisco. The Niners and
Colin Kaepernick score forty five and just the Packers defense
has no answer whatsoever. Twenty sixteen, the Falcons put up
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forty four on the Packers defense in the NFC Championship game.
Feel like there's not much you can do there. The
very next year, twenty nineteen, the Niners and a rushing
attack that I think in that game they threw the ball.
Was that the game they threw the ball eight times. Yep,
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the Niners threw the ball eight times and scored thirty
seven points to go to the Super Bowl. Those three
playoff losses, and those are all huge ones. It's fair
to say, what did you want from Aaron? What more
could he have done? I'll add one more. The year
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they're defending their championship, they're fifteen to one. They're at
home against the New York Giants. The Giants score thirty
seven points in freezing cold and send them home to
go on to win the Super Bowl. Those ones, right,
Those Packers' defenses were brutal, right, right. There are some
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other ones though that that was not the story. And
people remember the Seattle NFC championship game, and what they
remember is the Packers were up sixteen to nothing and
nineteen to seven Demons with three minutes left in that
(15:38):
game of nineteen to seven, with three minutes left in
the game, they end up allowing a fake field goal touchdown,
they allow an on side kick. They then don't get tough,
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they don't get the coin toss. In overtime, Russell Wilson
hits a thirty five yard pass. They go to the
Super Bowl, end up losing to Tom Brady and the Patriots.
What people don't remember so much about that game was
Rogers was awful. He had one touchdown, two picks, a
fifty six rating, and they couldn't score in the red zone.
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The next year, they're playing a Cardinals team. This is
the game where Rogers hits back to back hail mary's
to force overtime. And what they and when I say
back to back hail mary's again, if people can't visualize
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the situation. They are in a fourth and twenty Demons
on their own four yard line with fifty five seconds left,
and Rogers hits a sixty yard pass. They then rush
to the line of scrimmage, couple deep shots, and then
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five seconds left, on the forty one Rogers hits another
hail Mary. He threw one hundred and one yards of
passes on that possession to Jeff Janis to tie a
playoff game. And then on the very first possession of overtime,
the Cardinals go right down the field and score. The
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first play of overtime, Larry Fitzgerald takes it seventy five yards.
They score the next play, But in that game, prior
to those two hail Marys, the Packers had fourteen points.
Rogers had a passer rating in the fifties again, had
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one hundred and fifty yards, one touchdown, one pick, and then,
obviously people remember the very end NFC Championship game against
Tom Brady and Tampa is really bad. In the first half,
they dig a huge hole. They then are down eight
with two and a half minutes left, they can't punch
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it in. Laflora kicks the weird field goal, and then
his final playoff game with the Steelers, the Niners did
not score an offensive touchdown, but Rogers once again had
a really weird game where all he would do was
target Devonte Adams and they end up losing the game
on a blocked punt touchdown thirteen to ten, with Rogers
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kind of throwing away the final possession. So what we
with all that said? He's a four time MVP who
has the all time record for passer rating and as
far as the all time record for lowest interception percentage,
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and at times looked like the most physically gifted player
of the position's ever seen. But the combination of his
what I would call prickly leadership style, plus it's not
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me it's you when things went wrong. Plus not playing
to an Aaron Rodgers level consistently in the playoffs. Is
why a guy that good is going to finish his
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career eleven and ten in the playoffs or is it
eleven and eleven now? Oh, eleven and eleven in the
playoffs because they lost yesterday and with only the one
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trip to the super Bowl. If I were doing the
all time quarterback rankings, he has the talent of a
no doubt top five guy, but he can't. And I
understand it's become very in vogue to throw you know
a lot of people in top fives. You're not going
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to find a bigger Matt Stafford fan than me. But
the idea that Stafford is a super Bowl went away
from being top five all time quarterback is obviously, on
its face ludicrous. But if we're talking about the greatest
quarterbacks ever, you have Brady Mahomes manning Montana, you can
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argue about the order for them. For me, John Elway,
and I don't know what you want to do with
the old folks, Johnny Unitas, Bart star, Otto Graham, those guys,
but they've got to be accounted for in some degree.
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I can't speak to them, but I can't pretend you
can't do an NBA Top ten and not include Russell
and Will. I don't know that you can do an
NF Top ten quarterbacks and not include Unitis, Star and Graham.
So I don't know what you want to do with them.
But now we're at eight names, and then we can
start having the Steve Young, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew
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Brees discussion. And I know my colleagues are about to
put Josh Allen in there as well. It's the most
talented players. You see Josh Allen wildcard, we can the
oh yeah. And so I think it's fair if this
is the end for Rogers, one of the greatest players
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ever who underachieved. There is an element of Wilt Chamberlain
to Rogers in that a uniquely talented player that up
to that point in his career we had never seen
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anyone quite like him, but didn't quite win at the
level that that talent would have demanded, and it was
because of some own leadership and stylistic failings. So there's
my Rogers piece of it. I know you want to
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ask me about the Tomlin piece.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So there's rumors about them wanting to move on from
Tomlin the Steelers at that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Do you think that they should?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't think I don't think that they should, but
I would understand if they did that these playoffer It's
not just that he's now tied Marvin Lewis for most
consecutive losses in the playoffs at seven. It's not just
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that it'll now be ten years since they won a
playoff game, at a minimum, it's that they have been
wholly non competitive in these playoff games. The first one,
so well, if we're gonna do the full streak, I
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guess I gotta be fair. The first one was the
conference championship game to the Patriots, and again you're playing
an all time Patriots seems conference championship game, but you
instantly fell down ten to nothing. You're down three, thirty
six to nine with minutes left, you lose thirty six
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to seventeen. So you get annihilated in that football game
that's lost one, lost two on this Timelin losing streak.
You're at home with the bye, playing Blake Bortles Jacksonville Jaguars,
and twenty minutes into the game, Demanse, you're down twenty
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one to nothing, and you end up scoring a bunch
of points. You know, you cut it to seven a
couple times, but you trail the entirety of the game.
You lose forty five forty two, and they get grizzlier
from there. Lost three on this playoff losing streak. You're
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playing the Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield. You are down
twenty eight to nothing in the first quarter and you
lose forty eight to thirty seven. Game two, Al, I'm sorry,
(25:14):
Game two, where are we having this? Game? Game five?
Game five of the playoff losing streak, you're playing the Chiefs.
You go up seven nothing on a TJ. Watt stripsack
in the second quarter. You then find yourself down after
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being up seven to nothing, thirty five to seven, thirty
five to seven. Game six of the playoff losing streak
last year against Buffalo. Midway through the second quarter, you're
down twenty one to nothing, and so you lose thirty
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one seventeen.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
If they keep calling he has to focus on offense.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The well, hold on, hold on, just because I got
that wrong. That wasn't the I got the year wrong
on that last one. The Bills loss that was not
last year. When you're down, that was two years ago.
Last year's loss was to the Ravens, where once again,
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at halftime, you're down twenty one to nothing and so
and then this year was a weird one because you
were in it, but your offense could do nothing, and
then you get annihilated, but in the final score. So
I would understand if Steelers fans are like, I'm I've
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had my full here Phil here, But I still think
he is a really good coach, and I would be
scared of getting on that coaching carousel again. Now what
were you saying, Demanday.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh, I just think that maybe focus on something else,
bringing somebody else to help Tomlin on the offensive side
of things. It's clear that he doesn't. That's not his
side of the ball, I think. So that's a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So here's the thing, though, So I think that makes
sense in general, except for in these playoff games last night,
notwithstanding the defense has been getting just absolutely crushed.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now, I want to give the Texans their credit and
we'll talk more about the Texans on Thursday show. Weird
game because CJ was awful. CJ was awful, and it
didn't matter because that defense was that good and that
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defense was that ferocious, But you saw how tough it
is to do business that way, because as great as
that defense was and as inept as that Steelers offense was,
that was a one point game or a four point
game deep into the game. Yeah, it felt like they
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were one busted coverage away at any point from holy shit,
the Steelers are gonna steal this. I mean that game
seven to six entering the fourth quarter. It's ten to
six in the fourth quarter with the Steelers having the
ball before the Rankins fumble return touchdown that essentially ended
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the game. That Texans defense and Demico Ryans deserved massive credit.
But if that's how that offense looked against a good
but not great Steelers defense in a game they had
Nicocollins for a lot of next week that defense is
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gonna have to be just as good because I don't
know what that Texans dophin is gonna be able to do.
And by the way, I want to say some of
the Nico Collins thing, Nico Collins pretty clearly got concussed
on like the third playoff of the game. Yes, and
they they put him back out there, and I understand
it's the playoffs, and I get they put him back
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out there again. This is this is naked, reckless speculation
by me. It looked to me like he got concussed
on the first drive of the game. They checked him
for it, they put him back out there, and then
when he got hit again later in the game, they
it was such a bad concussion. At that point, they
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said he didn't know where he was. He tried to
walk back to the huddle and they had to cart
him off. That's brutal, man And again, maybe it was
just coincidence that it looked like he got concussed. He didn't,
and then a pretty typical hit gave him one of
the worst concussions of the NFL season. But that's hard
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to sell me and the Patriots Christian Gonzalez got a concussion,
tried to go back out there, and they prevented him
from going back out there, and he went in the protocol.
Maybe so, maybe both those guys are missing next week.
It would be impossible for me to think Nico Collins
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gonna be able to play next week. Credit to the
Texans defense. Maybe you know what demands, Maybe Caleb should
call CJ and give him some pointers on how to
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New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. All right, de Montey, let's
talk Niners Eagles.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
After a season of iffness, the Eagles were defeated by
the Niners, even with George Kittle getting an achilles injury.
Jan's got to get close of the year, but he's
just doing everything with nothing. You've been on this train
for the entire season. How are you feeling out that
Philly is out of the postseason?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Listen, I don't have anything against the players on the Eagles,
to be clear. I find their coach wildly annoying, and
the fans that I have interacted with in person, some
of them have been some of the most irrationally annoying
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adults I've met in ten years. So that's colored maybe
my feelings on the Eagles a bit, to be fair.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
With that said, I'm able to remove myself from those
feelings to analyze what I think is going to happen
with a team, not what I want. Everything I said
right there informs what I want to happen, but the
games and the information inform what I think is going
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to happen. And what I thought was gonna happen with
the Eagles in the playoffs was what happened with them
all year long, which is there impossibly inconsistent, wildly underachieving
offense would be that in the playoffs, and even against
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a Niners defense that was starting three linebackers who were
not on the roster, two of them a month ago,
and all backups, that is exactly what that e team
ended up, being, a defense that could only do so much,
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as great as it was, and an offense that killed
their season. You can't have a higher three and out
percentage than just about any team in the NFL in
a decade and flip a switch come to the playoffs.
You can't have fourteen of your thirty six halves this
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year score seven points or less and just flip a
switch come the playoffs. And what has been consistent under
Sirianni's tenure in Philly is every year, even before Saquon,
they had a dominant running game with a quarterback that
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was a huge part of it. They did not have
that this year, Saquon wasn't as dominant, the offensive line
wasn't as good, Jalen wouldn't run the way he would
in the past, and they became a more traditional Other
teams were able to defend them in a more traditional
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fashion where we don't have to devote every single one
of our resources to stopping the run. We're gonna be
able to devote a little bit more to stopping the pass.
And they didn't have a consistent drop back passing offense
all year. And for me, this season is a far
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bigger indictment on Siriani than it is on Jailen. Jalen
has earned, to me, far more benefit of the doubt
than Siriani. We also know, listen, this was not a
good game by Jalen Hurts. This was the There have
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only been three He's lost four career playoff games, a
super Bowl and three in the wildcard round. The three
wildcard round losses were all three losses where he played poorly.
So this was only the third time he's ever they've
lost a playoff game, and one of the fair fingers
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you can point is at him. With that said, that
happens and Jalen I thought was a steady hand for
this team, even though I thought his ability to read
the field and his ability to make passes to every
quadrant of the field or lack of ability tore hurt
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them this year. But that that's a You'll deal with
that because he's such a good leader, he's so tough,
he's been so clutch historically, Like he's not listen. Is
he one of the five best quarterbacks in football? To me?
Pretty clearly not? Is he a guy you can win
a Super Bowl with? Literally? Obviously? Yes? Has he upped
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his level of play in the two biggest games he's
ever played in, Absolutely so you can deal with some
of that from jailing a bad game, missing a couple guys.
Sirianni's a different situation where there were three major jobs
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for Nick Sirianni this year that presented themselves during the year.
The first one was as an offensive minded head coach,
how do we get our offense on track? He never
answered that bell. The second one was do I need
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to make a mid season coordinator change as we've done
in the past, because Kevin Bittullo ain't ready for this
and isn't equipped for it. He chose not to, and
the third one was am I going to be able
to get my arms around whatever's going on with aj Brown?
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And if not, do we need to cut bait with
him at the trade deadline? He was not able to
get his arms around it at any point all year,
and they didn't trade him. He did find time to
excuse me, he did find time to flip his shit
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at Bill's fans for no reason whatsoever, and to generally
act in a way no other NFL head coach act.
But he didn't do a good job this year. And
we have seen this from Philadelphia before, so I will
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say it again. Nick Sirianni enters next season with one
of the hottest seats in the NFL, like because so
many coaches got fired. It's hard to really like find
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coaching hot seats because most of the guys on the
hot seat got fired already. But I would say next year,
just sitting here today, Aaron Glenn after that train wreck
of a season, Zach Taylor after three consecutive missed postseasons
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with Joe Burrow, Shane Steichen after another Colt season where
ugh they were okay. Tomlin, well, I don't know the
Tomlin thing. That's the thing is I Tomlin, I'm not.
I'm not sure where that's going to go. Tomlin Lafloor.
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Are they going to be there or not? Like those
are the two guys. Todd Bowles enters next season with
a warm seat, but I don't know if any of
those seats are hotter than Sirianni's next year.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Well yeah, now, all those other coaches, this guy doesn't
even really get along with his players, So I think
those other guys don't have that that to them.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
The most of those other the Packers would be the
exception to this. Most of those other teams also don't
have a front office that feels like, yeah, you have
a super Bowl caliber, great team. And here is the
other thing for Philly that void money time bomb is waiting.
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And by that, here's what I mean. I'm gonna see
if I can find the tweet that the Eagles run
their cap in a way. Let me see if I
can find it no one else does. And if I
do find it, I'll send it to you guys. Maybe
we can get it on the show. Maybe not, but
if not, it's okay. The I should have pulled this
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up before, and okay, here it is. I'm I'm gonna
text it to our group chat right now. This is
from Dan Rodgers. Uh, so credit to him for doing
the work here. Uh and sorry for doing this on
the fly, guys the Eagles that one of the reasons
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the Eagles are able to have such a great roster
is because they borrow from future ye and oh you
know what, I gave Dan Rodgers credit. I really should
have given SF Data forty nine ers credit because they're
the ones who built the graphic initially. So the Eagles
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have structured contracts to where and I don't think this
is necessarily dumb at all. But as I've talked about
ninety seconds of nerd cap stuff here, every single dollar
you pay any player on your roster at some point
shows up on your salary cap books as a salary
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cap charge. The Eagles because their owner is willing to
pay a lot of cash up front, the Eagles borrow
from way down the line years by adding voidable us
on the end of contracts to stack the roster now,
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because it's like, we've got a super Bowl caliber roster team, quarterback,
all of it. And then they take their medicine in
a couple of years, have a reset season, and then
you know, started started anew but they have done it
in a way that no team has ever and don't
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put the tweet up yet no team has ever structured
it contracts quite like this. Like there's a half dozen
teams in the league that just don't do void years,
that have zero zero players on their salary cap with
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voidable future years. And again, if I'm describing this, put
demonster on the screen the way to explain it, I
think is the best way. So, like, let me use
a league averag team. As far as void money in
the future, the Rams are dead in the middle, seventeenth
out of thirty two teams and most money on void years.
They have forty seven million in future salary cap charges
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that are gonna hit their books in future years for
money they have played. They have paid players that are
on their current roster who won't be on the roster
those years, do you understand, So they have borrowed forty
seven million dollars from future RAMS teams for the right exactly.
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So now the cap will go up, and so they'll
you know, and they probably think and in a few
years we won't have a super expensive quarterback. It'll be fine.
So the Rams are league average at forty seven million.
Now throw up the tweet. The Eagles are at four
hundred and twenty two million dollars borrowed from future cap years,
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including two hundred and forty nine million dollars as it's
currently written, borrowed from the twenty twenty eight Philadelphia Eagles.
So Noah. The only other team in the league that's
above two hundred million is the Browns, and more than
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half of that is the disasters to Sean Watson contract.
The The Broncos are in fifth. They did it to
deal with in part, the Russell Wilson of dead money,
you know, so the dead money that the Lions, you know,
have borrowed from well down the road a bit because
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they feel like, basically the Lions philosophy, I think, is
be as awesome as we can be right now, and
then by the time this void money hits golf will
be off the books.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
The Eagles have a contractual bomb ticking in the form
of the twenty twenty eight season is when the chickens
come home to roost and you retool, which makes the
twenty twenty sixth season all the more valuable to them.
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And it also is why when people talk about them
trading AJ Brown. It's really not that simple so AJ Brown,
because they've structured his contract, and with aj they have
all those void years as well. If they wanted to
cut him, demonse right now for next season. AJ Brown's
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cap hit is a super manageable, super cheap twenty three
million dollars. But if they were to cut him, his
cap hit to not play for them is seventy two
million dollars because all that other money gets accelerated. If
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they trade him, his cap hit becomes forty three million dollars.
Now you can split that up into the twenty twenty
six and twenty twenty seven year. We don't have to
spend as much time on this as I'm doing right now.
My point is this the Eagles have because they have
an aggressive owner who's willing to spend money. They have
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an aggressive GM, they have put and they won a
damn Super Bowl like they went to Souper Bowl two
years ago or three years ago. They won it last year.
This philosophy objectively has worked and has been smart, but
it makes this type of season failing all the more painful,
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and it makes.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
They're gonna be trash in a few years.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Well, I don't think money listen. I think that they
will have much like they had after their last super
Bowl win. A couple of years later, they had a
super down year and then immediately got back. So I
don't think they're gonna be It's not like the Saints.
You're like just off in the wilderness four years, but
you're going to reset the roster in a couple of years.
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So having it's a really weird trend they've been on
of the last five years. Bounced in round one, make
a super Bowl, bounced in round one, win the super Bowl,
bounced in round one. Now you win another super Bowl,
make another super Bowl. Feels great. If next year goes poorly,
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I think a ton of changes come to Philly. So
that's my Eagles, you know, stance on it. And I
just think Sirianni's got to grow up a bit.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
And I also think that the thing for Jalen is
because the film is never gonna be super impressive. The
thing about your your rep being I'm just a winner,
you gotta win, and them getting bouncing around one in
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a home playoff game and him playing poorly, it's not,
you know, cataclysmic, but it dings him a bit. All right,
let's talk Niners for a second.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
So we know the forty nine ers guys have been
dropping throughout the year and they just lost.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, it's that power plant. Have you following that story?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Well, what's going on with the power plant?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
The I don't know is probably I probably sound like
an idiot, but there is some like energy way station
or something that's next to the Niners practice facility in stadium.
And this guy who wrote a book called Sunlight His
Life went out there with a gossometer and check checked
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like the energy waves. And basically he's telling us the
Niners players, ligaments, tendons, all that shit are yes, exactly
getting Chernobyl. And that's why for a decade they've been
the most injured team. I'm saying I can't say the theory,
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but I'm not saying I don't believe it. They have
been so injured every year for a decade and there's
been no explanation. This guy thinks he figured it out.
I can't rule it out, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
So, yeah, Kittle just tore his achilles.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Do you believe in this team still or is this
just too many injuries for them to still keep winning.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I mean it. We just saw him play the Seahawks
and that game was close. They were in it. Like
that game turned, didn't that game turn on a Brock
interception late? And I'm gonna give Brock some credit here
in a minute, but like I let me let me
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check this. I feel like that's how I remember it. Yeah,
I mean threw that game was third. I guess turned
is maybe unfair, but that game was thirteen to three Niners,
and yeah, that's the man threw I'm sorry, thirteen to
three Seahawks. I misspoke. Thirteen to three Seahawks and the
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Niners in the early fourth quarter have a second in
goal from the six to make it thirteen to ten,
and that was the past he threw to McCaffrey. McCaffrey
bobbled it and the Seahawks guy took it and that
basically ended it. Point is they were in that game
kind of their The Niners defense did a good job
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against Darnold in the game for the one seed last
Sunday night or the last Saturday night two Saturdays ago,
so it feels like ruling them out would be disrespectful.
But Seattle's on two weeks is on a week arrest.
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The Niners are on a short week. The Niners are
keeping it together with Scotch tape.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
I will listen to the Seahawks too. They have their
most of their team. This is understandable. They're playing with
guys that weren't even playing this year, and.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
It would take a Darnald catastrophe, I think for the
Seahawks to win that game. But none of that should
take anything away from what I think is an all
time great coaching job by Kyle Shanahan. Just an all
time coaching job by Shanahan this year. And I know
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he turned the ball over, I know he made some mistakes.
I thought perty had a hell of a gutsy performance
against an excellent Eagles defense. Like I'll give Party credit now.
Was the nicest pass thrown all day by a Niner
thrown by their wide receiver. Yes, but I still will
give Party credit for what I thought was a really
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impressive and another nice come from behind playoff victory like
that was, And the play to McCaffrey was great and
so but I think this is the end of the road.
I also think that is a hell of an impressive
season for the Niners in that division, and with those injuries,
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all right, we maybe could have led with this. Let's
talk about the game of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Your boy Caleb pulled off the upset. Where are we
calling this an upset? Were they favored in that game?
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Flipped?
Speaker 1 (54:58):
It went back and forth?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yes, so he pulled he pulled off the comeback. I
think they won a game where that he didn't lead
in an offensive snap. Is this you put you put
you waved him earlier in the year. Is this where
you imagined him last year when you said that they
were going to win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Well, I didn't say they're gonna win the super Bowl.
Make the super Bowl? Sorry and listen. Yeah, I thought
Caleb at the beginning of this year was shaky because
he was and he has been shaky in the first
half of all three of these Packer games. They played
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the Packers three times de Monsey, they beat him twice.
They had the ball with the lead, zero snaps. Yeah,
in the whole, in the whole, in all three games. Right,
the Packers had one hundred and six snaps with the lead,
the Bears had zero, and the Bears won two of them.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
Resiliency.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
But the reason that so there's I mean, there's two
angles here. There's the Packers absolutely blowing it even though
Jordan Love your guy was awesome, and just find like
I've never seen a team the Packers had the ball
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seven times after going up twenty one to three and
scored a touchdown and never turned it over and the
Bears got uh did turn it over and the Bears
came back. Anyway, like when the when the Jags came
back against the Chargers four years ago, the Jags every
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single time they had the ball to score a touchdown,
the Bears are kicking field goals, they're getting stopped on
fourth down, and they still came back. That's a catastrophe
of a loss.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Ben Johnson thing, Yes, it's in Johnson.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
What direction well in a good way.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Like I just feel like if he's able to do
that type of stuff even after.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
The ball goals, I mean, that's what's interesting. He also
had what I thought was a bizarre fourth down decision
early in the game when they went for it on
like fourth and four on their own thirty two, Like
I didn't know what they were doing. He seemed like
he was on tilt. But they came back, and yes,
he gets a lot of credit for the play design
on coming back. But the story of that game and
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why that game will be remembered is it was Caleb
Williams on full display that there are things he can
do that only two other guys in the league, Mahomes
and Josh can do. That throw he made on fourth
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and eight down eleven season, on the line, gliding to
his left without his feet set, with three defenders around
the guy he's throwing to. I say this without hyperbole.
It's one of the five best catches, one of the
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five best throws when you consider the degree of difficulty,
the context and the stakes in the last decade in
the NFL, and the the things he can do cannot
be taught. So you just hope he gets better at
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the things that are easily taught. But the Bears that
teams this year not named the Chicago Bears demanse when
trailing by double digits in the final five minutes are
three and one fifty nine. The Bears are three and three.
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It is these comebacks that they've had. It's not down
four goes, get a drive, it's down two scores late,
and they just do it again and again. Now that's
a not year over year, Well, the Chiefs weren't down big.
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They just winning the close games.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
And but to your point about the Chiefs, that's that's
not year over year sustainable, but it might be sustainable
next week. It does mean that they are the only
team in these playoffs that if they're down ten entering
the fourth quarter feels fine.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
And I if Matt Stafford retires, and I don't think
he will, but just let's say they win the Super
Bowl and he's like, all right, I'm done for me.
Kalabile inter next year. The best quarterback in the NFC
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as good as Jordan Love was yesterday. I like Caleb Moore.
I think he is. I'd take him over Golf. I'd
take him over anyone in the NFC East, take him
over anyone in the NFC South. I is Stafford's the best,
but he he is that guy and for all you know,
whatever people want to say about his personality or his emotion,
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how emotional he is, and you can see the emotion
for good or for bad during the game. His teammates
have rallied around him, and his coach loves him, and
I I think Caleb Stafford next week is the game
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of the divisional round weekend on the Green Bay side
of things. Quickly before we get to Bill's Jaggs demonse,
this team was nine to three and one, and then
Micah Parsons got hurt and they never one again. Two
teams this year anticipated they were gonna have Micah Parsons,
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and when they didn't have him, their season just fell apart.
And it's now The Packers should have won that game anyway,
but their championship hopes ended when Micah went down. You
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Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
All right, probably game of the week. Trevor ended up
losing this game, and I'm a sure guy the Bills won. Yeah,
you called that one. You said earlier in the show
that the winner of this game was going to the
super Bowl. After seeing that game and how it played out,
is that's still how you feel.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I mean, listen, the Bills are a flawed team. They're
not as bad as some people make them out to be.
They have a great offensive line, they have a great
running back, they have a good pass defense, they don't
have good receivers, and they don't have a good run defense.
But they also have the second best quarterback of his
generation and the best quarterback in these playoffs with respect
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to Stafford and Josh is on an all time playoff heater.
Since Josh Allen Demons lost to the Bengals in the
Divisional round three years ago, he's played six playoff games.
Now he's lost two of them to mahone. But in
those six playoff games, he has sixteen touchdowns, no turnovers,
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and a one oh five rating. And this is why
some folks thought they were defending Josh Allen by giving
pre writing excuses for how the Bills were gonna lose
and explaining how it was unfair to ask Josh Allen
to win a road wild card game against the Jags,
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and that's disrespect. What doing that does is it lowers
the stakes. And if you lower the stakes, then when
you come through, it's less impactful, it's less resonant. It
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was important that Josh Allen find a way to win
that game. It was important after in twenty twenty three
he had the ball in his hands down less than
a touchdown in the fourth quarter of the Divisional round
against the Chiefs and didn't come through. And then in
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twenty twenty four had the ball in his hands down
less than a touchdown in the conference championship game against
the Chiefs and didn't come through that. This year, he
had the ball in his hands in the fourth quarter
down less than a touchdown against the Jags, and he
made one of the best plays of his life, that
forty yard throw down the field to Brandon Cooks to
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then set up the game winning touchdown. That's how you
write your legend. And if the Bills now have an
opportunity to go into Denver and keep in mind Josh
Allen played college football in Wyoming, which is at a
higher elevation than Denver, so he's used to it. He
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goes in there against that defense and does it again.
It then gets to be a game away from finally
reaching a super Bowl and knowing he's not gonna have
to deal with Mahomes to get there. He was great.
He was great. Now do people go a little over
to you know, Collins calling him the greatest I think
(01:05:17):
the greatest quarterback he's ever seen. Is that too much
for me? Sure? But he's great. He is a future
Hall of Famer. He is at his peak of his powers.
He's banged up, it doesn't matter. He's finding a way.
That's how you become a legend. I hate that it
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came at the expense of my guy, Trevor. Trevor in
that game, Demanse third quarterback ever to in the fourth
quarter of a playoff game, have two go ahead touchdowns
and lose the game Drew Brees in twenty eleven. It
happened to Josh in the third seconds game and Trevor
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in that game. Now, Trevor made a huge mistake. At
the end of that game, you're down three of a
minute left, you have the strongest leaid kicker in the league.
You don't need to force it, and he forced it.
And the reason they were in that position was because,
in my opinion, the Bills made a huge mistake by
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scoring when they did. There's a minute five left, the
Jags have no timeouts. You're on the one. You can
do a fake quarterback sneak. Essentially you don't have to go,
but you don't have to kneel and lose a bunch
of yards. But the optimals thing for the Bills to
do in that spot would have been snap the ball
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to Josh, have Josh fall down right where he gets
it a little bit forward. The Jags aren't gonna hitch
you because they want you to score. And then you
have three timeouts. There's a minute five left, the Jags
have zero. You can it's a very simple math equation there.
(01:07:08):
What scares you more if your goal is to win
the game only having three chances to get one yard
and the Jags being left with less than twenty seconds,
or having four chances to get one yard and the
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Jags being left potentially with a minute. The Bills and
Sean McDermott chose the latter. They obviously should have chosen
the former. The optimal decision there is what Vrabel did
at the end of a first half earlier this year.
Have your guy go down, let the clock run all
the way to twenty seconds, call your first time out,
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and then you have three shots if you need it
to score and leave the Jags with no time. The
Jags were thrilled the Bills scored when they did, but
then Trevor made the big mistake. And if Trevor had
come through, if Trevor had driven the length of the
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field in that final minute and the Jags scored a touchdown,
I promise you I wouldn't be on TV or on
here killing Josh Allen. You gotta win that game. He
was great. That would have been a junior varsity version
of the thirteen seconds game when no one has ever
criticized him for that game. So it's not that it's
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binary win or lose, but it is how did you
play and did you put your team in position? And
Josh was brilliant. Josh was absolutely brilliant. Did you want
to say something to Monsey.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yeah, no, he was solid And it kind of reminded
me when when they got the ball after the picker
just in the late games. I just kind of felt
late in the game, I just felt like the Bills
was their destiny.
Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
And I knew that Josh Allen was kind of gonna
do whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
You're felt like, yes, if you had that confidence that
he's going to make this happen. Yeah, and that's the
last step of greatness.
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Yeah. This is like a very very sidebar the Jags.
The Jags reporter that you know telling hype and Liam
calling up, you know, saying you'll get him next year.
That was crazy, Like that was because I feel like
there's a lot of outrage for it, and.
Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I just what do you think of the outrage.
Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I think I think that it's for something else, Like
I think that I don't know, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
That it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Like I think that there's like those press conferences are
there for you know, reporters. I don't want to say
poke fun at coaches, but just kind of make their
life a little bit more difficult and explain themselves. And
I feel like most of the time it's in I
wouldn't call it condescending or derogatory, but it's more negative
than it is positive. And this one time somebody trying
to make it positive. It people are pissed about it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
The number of people that publicly whined about this old
black lady trying to make Liam Cohen feel better. There
as so much in this Let me tell you something,
You know what feels great no matter how down you are,
having an old, nice black woman tell you pick yourself up.
Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I'm just not get it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Yes, And and that woman's been part of the press
for decades and now would it be a problem if
that's what the entirety of the press conference was.
Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Or if it was like a regular season, like if
it were like games but they're out of the playoffs,
like it's done.
Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Everybody's Some of the media is so self serious. It
was thirty seconds, doesn't matter. It also gave me an
idea for this week's sports media on Budsman on the
TV show. I'll share it with you guys right now,
a little sneak preview because I loved it. I think
every NFL team's postgame press conference for the coaches needs
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to have two designated chairs and they each get one question. Okay,
and one chair is and you call it the homer
and the hater, and the coach has to answer a
question the homer gets to say whatever they want it,
pick them up, and the hater gets to just absolutely
(01:11:44):
even if wins or losses, rip them the And so
the homer and the hater, the coach can decide he
has to start with one and end with the other,
and he can decide how he wants to do it.
And in the middle of everybody else's questions. Uh, but
(01:12:05):
I and here's the other thing. Just to my media colleagues,
you're allowed to have an opinion on that, lady, and
keep it to yourself or keep it to your group chat.
(01:12:25):
You don't have to tweet about it. You really really don't.
All right, we've gone so long, we haven't even gotten
to two of the games, So let me just try
to quickly get to these other two Patch Chargers. Listen,
Drake May was shaky early and then was very good late.
(01:12:45):
It was a pretty typical first playoff game. You saw
some jitters, but he's so talented that he came through
and the Patriots defense was awesome. I'm not I spent
enough on this yesterday on TV arguing with Danny, and
at this point it just the facts are what the
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facts are. Justin Herbert's played ten consecutive f minus quarters
of playoff football, Justin Herbert has the second lowest career
playoff passer rate, ahead of only Andy Dalton. Justin Herbert,
now that the all twenty two guys have gotten a
hold of that film, had guys open the first three
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quarters of that game a lot and wouldn't pull the trigger.
Justin Herbert's comments after the game make it sound like
a guy who's in his own head. No one has
denied that Justin Herbert is talented, But the fact that
in consecutive years he has played his single worst game
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of the year in a horrible postseason loss is not nothing.
The fact that no quarterback in NFL history has lost
three playoff games in a row where their defense forces
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ten turnovers like Herbert has is not nothing. No quarterback
in the last quarter century has lost three playoff games
in a row where their defense forces more than five turnovers.
Only one other quarterback, Chad Pennington, has lost three playoff
(01:14:38):
games in a row where their defense forced more than
four turnovers more than four turnovers in the last twenty
five years, Herbert's defense has forced ten turnovers in all
three of these games. His defense has put his team
in the catbird seed early in these games, by a
lot or by a little. Three of these games he
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has been somewhere from below average in the first one
to god awful in the last two. That is what
it is. And if six years into his career you're
still holding on to what a pretty ball he throws
against the Broncos in September, I don't know what to
(01:15:28):
tell you for the Patriots moving forward. They should be
able to handle Houston. As great as that Houston offense is.
The Patriots in a really good position to either be
going to Denver, who they're better than, or at home
(01:15:53):
against Buffalo who they've beaten, and last, but not least
Rams Panthers. Listen, this would have been a catastrophe for
the Rams, a true how the hell did that happen? Lost? Instead,
(01:16:16):
it was just an ugly, ugly win where Stafford was
not that good and Puca saved the game with a
super high IQ play breaking up the interception. I also
had demons if I can pat myself on the back
an all time impromptu line. Yesterday on the TV show
did you see It?
Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
We showed Pooka saving the game breaking up would have
been the game ceiling.
Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Have something to do with the tackle that turned the
tide or something.
Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
No, no, no no, I said, because it was such
a heady play by Puca. And I said that Puoka
uses up all his IQ points while on the field,
and it's just once he leaves the once he leaves
the game, he's just he's such a smart player, Like
it's just it's the reserve is totally tapped. And the
(01:17:11):
next six days he can't use any IQ points because
he has to save him for the game. And then
in the game, he's just unbelievable and he's making smart
plays and he's one of the best receivers we've ever seen.
And then the game ends and he's just like in
rest mode and so but he saved the game. But
(01:17:35):
here's thing, it's the playoffs. So it doesn't matter how
it looks in a win. We know the Rams can
be great offensively. We know they can be and now
they get an opportunity to be great offensively against a
bad Bears defense. And you know the Panthers, that was
(01:17:55):
a valiant performance. They were. They hung way to uper
than I thought they would. They had a real chances.
Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Once man, we don't care how it might be something
we might not know.
Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
I don't. I don't buy that. But it's a nice
season for them. Yeah, this is like a cowardly way
to do things. But right now, this moment, as we
sit at the divisional round, because I had said I
thought going into the playoffs, I said, I thought the
Rams were going to the super Bowl, and there were
my pick to win it. Once the you know, when
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the playoffs were set, and I said, I thought the
winner of Bills Jags goes to the super Bowl. That
is what I right now, that would be my pick
Rams over Bills in the super Bowl. That's what I
think we are going to get. And the Rams survive
in advance.
Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Uh so heartbreak for Josh coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Well, beginning to the super Bowl is a big deal.
I mean that, yes, for the and for the Bills fans,
that would be five super bowls and five super Bowl losses,
and so that obviously wouldn't be great. All right, do
me a favor. I appreciate everyone who's sent in questions today.
We will add those to the questions we're gonna do
on Thursday. We'll do more questions from the audience, and
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these on Thursday but I got a run, great show,
great weekend to playoff football. We will see you guys
back here on Thursday. A huge thanks to hard Rock
bet to Boost to Blue Duck in the volume. Thank
you to you. De Monsday, Say hi to your mom
for me, who's out in LA. And I will see
you guys on Thursday. I'll see you on with Colin
(01:19:35):
in about an hour. What's right,
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