August 25, 2023 • 44 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon recap the Steelers preseason game with Kenny Pickett and wonder how good he will actually be. The guys go into the Shohei Ohtani injury debacle and wonder if anyone is at fault. Plus, Jason and Mike make a wager that Johnathan Taylor will be traded by the end of the next day.
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tire buying should be Two big NFL preseason games and
I two big dress rehearsals with a lot to get
to end. Winnipeg Blue Bombers Right Bluebombers. Blue Blue Bombers
lead leading Montreal Aloett's Aloettes twenty to seventeen just before halftime.
In fact, Steve de Sager has the over in this
(01:10):
game and he is very close to it right now.
Pretty good. He is very excited. He is he is
the new CFL guru. In fact, he starts a new
CFL podcast coming up in the net. Yeh nice. Yeah,
I believe next week he starts it. Yeah, it's all
about it's all CFL football. Alb to loot. You are
overlords to the North. Yeah, you should see the guest
list he has. Mark Tressman is gonna be on like
every week. Oh, it's gonna be fit.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm gonna ask him some questions about the failed Bears experiments.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And the guys that started the CFL in Baltimore, Like, dude,
what were you thinking? Like these are the guests I
take that. No, that's good. Happy CFL. Come on.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean the guy just ran out of bounds on
a kickoff return and then got back onto the field
to play, and I was waiting for him to get
blown up. Fortunately the whistles were loud enough. Did everybody
finally stopping him? Like this guy's about to get wrecked.
He's about to get wrecked.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
My favorite part of the CFL is walking going all right,
how long and from when I start watching until I
see someone that I know that I've heard of, sure,
Like how long?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Like is it is it like ten minutes? Am I
going to find out? Nobody?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Is it five minutes? Is it ten seconds?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know what I've been done due diligence on there.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
It's going to be every jet receiver they've cycled through
the last five years.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
By the way, guys that said they retired or what.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's gonna go contry just caught a pass.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I don't know the CFL that you were talking, but
I looked up is this possible? This is week twelve
in the CFL.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, since June. Yeah, yeah, well the cow there's like
eighty six weeks in the season. Yeah, Blue Bombers come
in eight and two six.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, twenty one weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It says, oh yeah, gets a long schedule. It's a
long Great Cups around like what late November. Yeah, it's
like Thanksgiving is when the Great Cups. So this is
like the NHL was in Canada for years. You got
just a small amount of teams and they play each
other over and over and over, Yeah, for months on
it It is still like the NHL. It just sort
of like that. But I mean, I don't know. Man
(02:57):
is Winnipegan for like, are they the best team in
the CFL?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Steve?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, are they the best team? You're asking me,
I'm asking money, insider. Certainly you have money on this.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
This says Winnipeg is eight and two, first place, best
in the whole CFL.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And they're clinging to a three point lead over the
Expos over the Alouettes. Going to be a close, going
to be a close.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Marty's coming up next. Ellis Valentine mart.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Richards, linebacker out of Syracuse, is point Valentine, Gloucester out
of Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, because it's very easy to gallow, because you get
right up over the border very easily from Syracuse up
there and then you come back. Yeah, it's it's close
to me. You've got a couple of guys from Experience
for beer runs. Yeah, yeah, beer runs to Canada for
the bats. Are you kidding met? Oh my god? What bats? No.
Ellis Valentine was he was a guy that got hit
in the face once and so he wore the half
a football helmet over for the rest of his career.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Right, he had the half of he had the half
of football the bars.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
That wasn't called her own. That was Valentine.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, I believe that was Ellis.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Ellis Valentine was also once on a Fantasy Island episode.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Really really yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
One of the guy's fantasy was to like be an
all star on the field with all stars. So they
got the guys they could get to film and Ellis Valentine.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Now we have to see who else was on that island.
The superstar slash Salem was the title of the episode.
Steve Garvey, of course he was.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh, Steve Garvey was on Steve George, George Brett Okay, wow,
So they got.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Fred Lynn, Wow, and Ellis Valentine, ell Ella's Valentine on there?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Everybody else I get like late said, fred Lynn was
Rookie of the Year, MVP Big Red Sox center fielder.
I think Brett was a super duper star, one of
my favorite players ever.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, a couple of the stars Valentine, Leslie val Leslie
Nielsen and Gary berg.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Off was let me guess Radar was the catcher. Tobby
Sorta was on this episode.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Apparently George Brett was not wearing number five was twenty five.
So clearly Hollywood people have no idea about sports.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Even back then, that's the way you hide it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
We could just get you any number, right, are you
wearing enough?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Doesn't matter to Okay, great, we're playing number twenty five today.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Of course, mister baseball and football cards. Wasn't it true
back then that they didn't have an agreement for football
cards licensing? And they used to paint out the logos
on the helmet in the nineteen seventies, If like, you
get the Vikings Kickers card from tops or whatever, they
would literally paint out, but they would paint it out
(05:31):
in the shape of the Viking cords, so you could
kind of still yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean generally that happened after a guy left the team.
They would do the paint job is and they didn't
have a new photo of him.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Is this friend, Tarkenton?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I can't really tell. It's purple.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It seems like a Viking logos.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
They did that a lot in the baseball sets. When
a guy again would would get traded and they didn't
have a new photo of him, they'd be like, all right,
paint on a red Sox cap. So it's pretty pretty
odd looking and now there's just pain.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
In the person.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Like George Costanza into the.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Fold, right into the photo.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Think that's Chuck Foreman. I'm not sure Forrman.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's good reference at Frank Cooks. Thank you, thank you,
Steve O. And good luck with this bet. Hope, I hope,
I'm sorry. What did I bet again.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That I heard of?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Was the lie?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
The over on this? I think it was?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I think I think the over? I think did you
bet the over.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Under on Rouges? Didn't you say? Yes, the over under
for Rouges was one and a half and you bet
the over very red.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Did you say it was like twenty to twenty already,
so I guess it will be the over.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, he spread was eight and a half. But I'm
trying to find the over under it. I really want
to see a rouge I know you do. I want
to see a rouge DJ, not just in Chicago where
you can ruge your knees and roll your stocking down.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
For all that jazz.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
We've already seen one this summer. The entire met season
was a ruge.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
A ruge, it's a U. But yes, big NFL games
tonight because it is the final dress rehearsal, final games.
Stealers are crushing the falcons right now twenty four to
nothing with about three and a half to go in
the fourth quarter. Early in the third the Colts and
the Eagles seventeen to thirteen. Let's start with Steelers Falcons
here for a couple minutes, because there always is something
(07:16):
big to take away from Week three, and I know
he only had a little bit of time tonight.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
But seeing him in the tiny bit that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I have so far this preseason, I feel better about
Kenny Pickett and the Steelers than I did a few
months ago. Coming off from last year. Kenny Pickett was
not good, and every time I had to watch Steelers
fans go but hey, if you watch that drive against
the Browns in the third quarter when we scored a touchdown,
(07:46):
you're really so you're telling me one drive when they
scored ten points in the game that he led them
on the touchdown drive. That's why I mean they were
reaching so much for something positive for Kenny Pickett. Kenny
Pickett was terrible. He was awful. Now I give him
the benefit of the doubt that he can pick up
a little bit more coming into year two, and the
Steelers have some pretty good weapons right there there. Backfield's
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probably headed for some kind of split. At some point
Jayalen Warren's going to take over. But between Warren and
Naji Harris, George Pickens, who was incredibly talented, Deontay Johnson,
as long as you hold onto the football, Friar Muth
is a really good tight end. You have pretty good
weapons in Pittsburgh, and all you need is him to
be able to get the ball to the He couldn't
get the ball to them last year. He was not good.
He was flustered a lot. He was not accurate this time.
(08:28):
So what I've seen so far, again it's before the season.
This is what I'll give them. I feel a little
bit better about Pittsburgh and a little bit better about
Kenny Pickett. What I've seen so far this preseason.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well that's just it, right, the big progression, the big jump.
They did win five in their final six games. To
your point about not being an explosive offense, Look, if
you're winning your winning right, you'll you'll take the growth
in statistics later on. How many quarterbacks would you rather say, Hey,
you know what, you were five and five and twelve,
but you throw it from forty three hundred yards, Good
(08:59):
for you? You who wants that No, it's about w's
especially when you're looking at what Pittsburgh does, and they
were able to grind games out, get to the ground
more effectively, didn't need to put up pinball numbers, and
that defense is pretty good as it normally is, so
expect more of the same this year. And then now
it becomes the question offensive line, can they get on
(09:21):
the blocking sleds and and create some some lanes. Naji
Harris a guy that two years ago pretty excited about
last year hit and miss which opened the door for Warren,
has a good.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Average is two point three yards per carry. He's like
Jeremy Hill. I mean, come on, man, he Naj Harris
is Naji Harris had had a good run for a
few games two years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
This guy does. He's not dynamic love.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's a volume running back, which you know you can't
be a volume running back anymore because you don't carry
the ball twenty seven times a game.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well, and that's the big thing is that you're gonna
get the workload split. He's already a bit solid about it.
When asked how the room was going a couple of
times during camp, the side eye he gave reporters, Uh,
didn't exactly speak well of where he's at mentally dealing
with it. But hey, you know what, deal with it.
Jalen Warren's gonna have a big workload. Tomblin's going to
(10:17):
make sure that things keep humming along. And if you're
not on board, guess what you'll see your percentage of carries,
your percentage of touches decrease markedly.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I would expect more Jalen Warren as we go on.
But you mentioned the pass receivers like it's another year.
It's another year of growth. It's like we get excited
about what might happen with the New York Football Giants, right,
a lot of bodies, a lot of new people in
but it's another year. Daniel Jones made the step of
being efficient. Not overwhelming numbers, but it's forty dollars a
(10:49):
year efficient to get you to a playoffs and now
the next is and now it's on your shoulder. You
got to make something happen. Kenny Picketts and that same
year for the Pittsburgh steel.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I feel, look, the Steelers have this run that they're
always going to be good, and I understand that because
they are no matter what kind of team they're in
the hunt. They're always in that. They never have a
We're looking at a four and twelve season where no, look,
what's their five hundred run is?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's incredible?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, this comes down to is TJ. Wat got to
be healthy? Yeah, there's your big indicator of how well
or poorly this team's gonna do. Is your defense anchored
by the guy that, when he's healthy, is arguably the
best defensive player in football. But do I look at
this Steeler team as a team that, Hey, with Kenny Pickett,
this is a twelve or thirteen win team. No, it's not.
(11:39):
This is a Steeler team that if things go right
for them, they figure it out. Kenny Pickett is full
they can win ten games because you know what, that
division is pretty difficult. Bengals are the best team. The
Browns will be better than they were a year ago.
You know, they may wind up sitting around where they
were last year or right just because hey, everybody else
(12:00):
a lot. Bet'll just look better. Your quarterback needs better,
it would Hey, why do we lose this game twenty
four to twenty one?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We lost this game twenty seven to twenty four. Oh,
he lost this one sixteen thirteen. The Steelers are always
going to be there. But that's what I'll give. I
feel a little bit better about Kenny Pickett, who I
would love to live in Pittsburgh and be Kenny Pickett
because I can do no wrong. I could stink out
loud like I did all year last year, and all
everybody's saying in the off season is, Oh, he's gonna
be great. Look how great he was. Look when he
(12:27):
threw that one pass, when he threw that out to
Deontay Johnson that he didn't drop. Remember that Week twelve,
that passed in the second quarter at the six forty
six mark, when we gained thirteen yards to each.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
That was some pass, buddy, That Deontay Johnson catch that
you needed for your fantasy squad.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Was last year. This last year.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Now, in theory, the percentage of drops dips once again
and you have more opportunity. And that was the one
thing last year, both he and Pickings, there were times
there were plays to be made and they'd get excited. Right,
you see day light before you secure the football, Make
the catch first, Make the catch first, Make Kenny look good.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
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we were all hoping it was gonna stay close, maybe
we'd see a big upset tonight, but it looks like
the best team in the CFL. It's going to move
on with a win tonight. Yeah, Blue Bombers pulling away. Yeah,
I'll tell you, Manto. The Aloetes kept it close, but
a big touchdown pass from somebody to somebody. We just
watched the thirty seven seventeen and Steve Disager is a
(15:38):
really rich dude because the over hit for him, and
now he is going to be I mean, really, he
should buy pizza tonight. I mean, I'm I'm buying pizza tonight,
but he should buy pizza tonight.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, I mean, you know, you transfer transfer the debt,
you hit the over hit the over on it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Wow easily too. He still had a full quarter of it.
Isn't isn't it in a quarter in the CFL? Twenty
five minutes? Don't they play one hundred minute games like it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You know what's great though, there's actually people in the
stands there. I was just showing you a shot from
guaranteed raid Field, you know, because Steve's so kind as
to mock me in his updates. Let me give you
a bunch of details about two teams that suck. Yeah
was they've hit five home runs. They announced attendance of
thirteen thousand bag ball There might have been thirteen in
the image.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I can't even say there was more than If you
said three hundred, I would say, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Man A's and White Sox, I wrote.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
My brother, what do you think eight hundred people?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Now?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's one hundred degrees in Chicago, yes, and Youngs and
Roses is over at Wrigley Field.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go out on a limb.
Guns N' Roses had a bigger, bigger crowd. I'm gonna
guess here, absolutely right. Even if they played that new
song that's terrible like that News has the only song
that they play, We're gonna play perhaps eleven times, and
that's our concert tonight. More people would stay for that.
Are you gonna go with me when they come here
in October?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yea in October?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, it's at the new football seat.
Yeah yeah, I mean I really, I really wish to
go back to qualcoms, like because then I feel like
I'm going to see them in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
No, I get this, you know Qualcom was like that.
But yeah, we'll go to San.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Diego Sunday night. All right, we'll make that happen unless
unless the Jets are playing, if the Jets get flexed
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Save at Progressive dot Com. Well a little bit more
on Otani before we get to the latest today involving
Trey Lance. You know now he's going to be out.
He's not going to pitch for the rest of this year.
We told you that his contract isn't going to reflect
pitching at all. He's going to get paid to be
a big slugger. Think of what Aaron Judge and Bryce Harper,
what these guys are getting that's gonna be Otani's contract,
(17:53):
maybe a little bit more because he's a bigger draw
than Judge and Harper. But the days of him being
this unicorn and and doing something baseball we've never seen,
those days are likely over and and we're gonna talk
about him as being a star, but we're gonna look
back at this three year run and go, can you
(18:14):
can you remember when Otani did that and then his
body just couldn't hold up Because it's a lot. It's
a lot to go through. The rigors of playing every day,
even when you're a designated hitter, and then every fifth
day pitching. It's a lot to go through. And last night,
when when the story broke, I kept thinking, I really
would like a doctor to weigh in and say, hey, yeah,
this is what happened major League baseball. It is a
(18:35):
lot of stress on you to pitch every fifth day
when you are playing a position. And I came around
to this today. Is that not that how do I
say this? Not that we should have seen it coming,
but we shouldn't be as surprised that something like this happens,
because when you're doing something that nobody in baseball is
(18:59):
done in eighty years, and you're doing it on a
high level over the course of three years. How long
can you really do this for? Right? How long could
you really expect Otani to stay healthy pitching, stay healthy
hitting and do both of those things right? Really, just
to be realistic, how long could you honestly expect Otani
(19:20):
to be able to do something like that? Did we
just think it was gonna happen in infinity? He's gonna
be thirty eight years old and pitching and with an
ERA of two and a half and still hitting fifty
home runs. We think we're gonna see it for ten years,
twelve years. I feel like this is something that shouldn't
be that surprising, just because to be able to keep
up what he's keeping up is inhuman and at some
(19:42):
point he was gonna show us that he was a
little bit human. And that's kind of what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Now the training and the process, and look at every level,
we've seen guys have to make the choice. In a
couple of cases, we've had players maybe not able to
achieve not because of injury necessarily, but performance as a pitcher,
go back and come reinvent as a hitter or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
We've seen that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
We've certainly seen a lot of pictures go and have
injuries and then reinvent themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Right, John Smoltz, one of the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Greatest starters we saw, gets hurt, comes back, becomes what
behind Rivera and Hoffman. I mean these top three, right,
He's metal stand in terms of closers once he got rolling. So,
I mean, we've certainly seen those types of situations. But
but I think you're right, and I think and I
think we celebrated it and commemorated it properly in that respect,
(20:34):
knowing that you only you only got so many games,
and it's it's the only time we've ever seen it, right,
go back to Babe Ruth. That's fine, that's a one
hundred years ago. We got nothing. We got sped up
footage of him. It's running really fast with his baby
steps around the field. Other than that, it's a lot
of you know, legend and myth building, and for this
(20:56):
we got to watch it play out where you had
the heroics at the plate and then every fifth day,
not always dominant, but he battled right as a pitcher
and got to the fifth, sixth innings in most starts,
not always you know, clean sheets and whatever else.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
But the fact that he was doing it. I think
as a for a.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Sports media, let's put it this way, that is quick
to dismiss everything and throw it out. This is one
time that everybody got behind the story, which we don't
get right. People get get on board a team or
a player and then as quickly as they could possibly
find a reason to jump off and go against the
(21:39):
crowd and get into hot take nonsense we do right,
How fast did everybody decide they hated the Warriors after
they change basketball?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
This is great? Now? Basketball sucks and it's your full
n I was into them for eighteen months and now
I'm done after that.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That was the life cycle of it, right, that was
the gestation period of great they won?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
All right, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Go back to basketball where there's a bunch of seven
footers cladding around in the paint and we slow the
game down.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
No, that's it with Otani.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I think this was one where I don't think anybody
got to the negative side of it, you know, saying
it's overhyped. This is ridiculous because we hadn't seen it.
Because we did get to go and celebrate look Mike Trout,
and he looked like they were gonna be the greatest
tag team this side of the road Warriors back in
their running rough shot across the Awa. I mean, this
(22:30):
is what it was. And then well, Trout couldn't stay
on the field, so it became the show Heyo Tani show.
And as he began to pitch again coming off of
the Tommy John surgery and whatever, the legend grew with
every start. And then you have the World Baseball Classic
where he takes Mike Trout down right. They printed a
lot of cards. Top just does this on demand thing
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with big events, and they did one of the trout
Otani at Bat, which sold tens of thousands of copies.
Trout very proudly, he has several autographed by the two
of them. He can assure that that never happens again.
Very genius by him and building his baseball car collection.
But those are now selling for one hundreds of dollars
just because it's such a mythical moment of them facing
(23:13):
each other. But now you have the gravity of well,
how many meaningful games is he gonna throw again?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
If ever? Yeah, I mean, maybe he can, maybe he
can close, Maybe he can start again, But how long
until he's gonna get hurt? Right, what's the shelf life is?
Because he's been hurt twice now, this is two big
arm injuries in five years. And if I could go ahead,
if I could look ahead, say let's go five years
from now. Okay, so let's go twenty twenty eight. The
Olympics are here in Los Angeles. It's ninety degrees every day.
(23:43):
And Otani has had his time. He's in, you know,
nearing the end of his career, or maybe the middle
part of the end of his career, and he's never
gotten back to pitching because his arm couldn't take it.
You are gonna see books and series and specials and
movies and documentaries about the last three years of what
Otani was able to do. And it's going to get
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even more mythical than it is.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It is schedule and what he had to do to
be right and get right. And what I don't want
happening is what I've already seen in twenty four hours,
all these dopey articles blaming the angels.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know what, he's a grown ass man, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
If he had discomfort, whether it was this injury or
going back to the fatigue multiple times, all those things.
He's got to say something, right. He's not an eighteen
year old kid trying to please, you know, a high
school coach towards a state title or trying to earn
a college scholarship. You're a grown ass man. So to
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keep blaming the Angels for trying tobout and yes, the selfishly,
you know, they've got to be wise about it too.
But everybody's going into the poison pills and poison pens
on the Angels saying, well they knew he wasn't right.
He's like, well he knows his body. If he's saying, hey,
I'm good to go. No, no, you know what, We're
(25:01):
gonna save you for good. We're gonna put you in
mothballs for good, like my mom all those years growing up.
It's like we're saving those for good.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Good never comes. Wear the damn clothes. I never get
to wear that shirt. No, at least the bumps and
bruises that he has had were not related to this.
It's not as if Otani said a month ago, hey
my arm is hurt, and the Angels saying we got bobbleheads. Man,
we gotta make money.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
We're gonna we may lose you in free agency.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Get out there. What did he have? He had cramps,
which is just you know, had cramping is she's had
to come out a game.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's been hot.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He had cramping in his fingers. Okay, it's not that
he had something wrong with his elbow. The minute they
felt that he had lost velocity, he had diminished velocity,
he came out of the game.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
It happens. Every arm only has so.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Many pitches in it, and some pitchers are lucky because
they are still throwing pitches in the thirty eight, thirty
nine years old, and David Robertson's trying to close for
the Marlins right now. At you know, at thirty nine
he was an e's a and after thought for the Mets,
turned into a really good player. And some guys get
out of their twenties without arm problem. When when's Jacob
Look at Look at what I mean he just announced
(26:05):
his retirement. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look it's right, I
remember he ever know? Was that four years ago?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah? He was the next big thing.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You were ruining the day of his arrival because he
was gonna be in division, tormenting you every fifth day,
and then the guy hasn't been able to be.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Right, yeah the entire time. Sometimes with pitchers it's just
they can only withstand so much. And that's what that's
how I see Otani is that he was able to
do it for three years and now he'll spend the
next few years trying to get to that point. Because look,
he's not gonna suddenly say I'm not pitching anymore. But
can he really trust him to be the lights out pitcher?
Probably not. He's he ever gonna be back to being
(26:39):
the guy with just being realistic, probably not. Could he close, yeah,
maybe he can close, right, Maybe he can closed. He
can he can pitch and throw one inning every other day,
and and if you need him to close games, he
can do it. Yeah, I could see that. But to
get back to where he is, I think that era
is over. And that's why another reason why last night
was such a big hel because everything the guy did
(27:02):
was a headline and we're still gonna run through that.
He's still gonna be a big story, but we're not
gonna it's not gonna be where here's seven innings of
one hit ball and then and two home runs in
the same game. Those days, and it's it's I feel
bad for sports fans, not only just him, but sports
fans because we're in the moment and it's hard to
(27:22):
it's hard to appreciate some some kind of greatness when
you're seeing it, just because you're in the moment. Because
we see great things all the time in sports, right,
big Evans. Ever, there's nothing that shocks us. Right, there's
nothing that here's a big thing, here's a big thing.
If a guy it's five home runs in the game, Wow,
big deals. And to see o Tani, Wow, he's pitching
and he's playing. Okay, Well, it's nothing. It's nothing that
(27:44):
is the is the shock value of oh my goodness,
the entire world stops for me. It's, oh, hey, this
is wow, this is something. I really appreciate what he's doing.
But you don't really appreciate and you don't do it
until they're done playing. And we're gonna like, we'll look
back at otud. You're gonna have people who, let's say
you and I grew up in the in the mid
seventies early eighties, and we would hear stories about Babe
(28:05):
Ruth and Lou Garrig and what they were able to do,
and this is baseball in the twenties and thirties, and
Joe DiMaggio and Ted.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Demajo and then look at I mean, Mickey Mannle and
Willie Mays. I mean that was their names were just
slung around all the time. Ernie Banks, yeah, who retired
just a couple of years before. I'm watching baseball right
and growing up in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And you jump ahead fifty years from now when the
Mets are done paying Bobby Benea. You jump ahead fifty
years from now to twenty seventy four, and fans will
be talking about show. Hey Otani, like we talked about
Babe Ruth, like we talked about guys like those absolute legs. Yeah,
what was funny?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Though I do it for three years, he pitched, he
did that, But I do.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
A weekly hit.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I mean one of the first people to give me
some airtime long ago in Baltimore, good friend of mine
always get on for a couple of minutes, and they
asked a question right off to jump about Otani and residents.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I go.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
One of the things we pride ourselves on the show
is we don't kick any can down the road. We
were doing conversation about people moving the needle must see
TV or at least, hey, I'm gonna scan look if
there's any highlights box scores right coming off the messy game,
and we included Otani on the list and then literally
we're going to break in. It's like, oh oh no,
(29:17):
and we had to come right back and start talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But he was one of.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Those guys that that moves the needle. And this is
certainly a seizemic shift free agency history. All of that
stuff wrapped in one.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
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Just something to think about for Otani when you look
back and go, wow, it's not as surprising as you
think and appreciate what we got to see. Eight seven
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football tonight, and I mean that we nearly saw a
fifty Burger put up in the CFL. Yeah, we did.
Welcome back CFL. The CFL's big night, Friday Night though
it's like Friday Night CFL.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, No, We've had some Fridays in our history here.
But the fact that we're trying to expand, now, why
would you not, I mean, before the NFL season really
begins in Earnest where college football is back, why would
you not try to take over another night.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
We're gonna put it up against your football. Yeah, I
know you want to do that, but it's preseason. Yeah,
it doesn't matter. There's only two of your preseason games.
We will be counterprogramming. Now, there are two big stories
coming off of one of these games tonight. Now, I
know a lot of Colts fans are going, Okay, we're
playing tonight on the four year anniversary that Andrew Luck retired.
(31:57):
I really don't want to see a headline with John
Than Taylor or Anthony Richardson. I decided to become a LARPer.
I'm gonna be a live action role player and I'm
leaving football. That's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know he would have been using but think about that.
I mean, Captain Andrew Luck had its own thing. We
commemorated it all the time on these social media whereas
whoever was running that account and then would later apply
it to other quarterbacks. But nobody had a better neck
beard than Andrew Luck. I'm gonna go throw axes for
a living at people. Well, at his cadence in press
(32:31):
conferences and interviews, I mean it worked. He was a
guy that fit into another time.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Now we'll get to Luck in a minute because it
is the big four year anniversary of him shockingly retiring.
But speaking of quarterbacks, tonight, you watched Anthony richardson have
a look, have a good night.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Now you're gonna look at his numbers and go six
out of seventeen.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
No, you gotta sell people on that a little bit. Hey, Look,
Anthony Richard is not a guy you're expected to come
in the league right now and go b It was
fifteen out of six. He completed a high percentage of
his passes. No, he's someone that is going to get
by on his physical ability for a little bit as
he gets reps. Because a guy has only played in
sixteen games since he graduated high school, that's not a
lot of reps, right, So he and this is why
(33:14):
he went number four overall because physically he is just
an absolute freak.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
And you saw some of the throws.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He was able to make tonight of his six completions,
and you know that. Okay, he's got that there well,
and now you've got you and you have a head
coach that you've just given the reins that you're not
gonna have a short leash on unless he does something
to completely throw Jimmersy off the deep end.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
They're gonna get to grow together and develop. So it's
one of those it's a good it's a good marriage
in that regard.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So we watched him make some big throat like he
made a couple of throws and I go, wow, that
was that was a that's a big time throw, you know,
dropping it there, dropping it among coverage. I watched him
take off at the right times, making plays with his legs.
That's what he's gonna be for a while, and that's
pretty good, right, So I'm feeling pretty good about Anthony rat.
I gotta get through some of that wind up he's got.
(34:05):
He's got a big wind up before release. They'll have
to shorten. Tibo will teach him how to shorten his
Why that was my whole thing. I was I was
winding up too much. Looked like he was shot putting
the ball. But that was the correction. But they still
put seventeen points on the board in the first half.
And you can talk about stats till you're blue in
the face, but seventeen points a seventeen points looking for
(34:26):
positive puts up? Yes, right? Does he know when to
take off and run?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Can he execute some of the plays that they decided
to throw out here today? And and he passes right?
Six to seventeen isn't gonna while you, But you got
to go look at the highlight reels, go play for play.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
There was some good things to take away.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
The growth is there still a very steep curve coming
out of the short sample size of college football.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
But you know what, that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
They've decided this is the path they're taking as opposed
to giving us Minshew mania.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Now I'll give you a big Bold prediction. I'll give
you a big Bowl prediction because the Jonathan Taylor situation
has been hanging over the Colts and the league. Now
that potentially he could be traded sometime before Tuesday. Jim
irsay as soon as today and here's the thing. It's
been emotional.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
This has not been.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
A NFL is a business. I'm not getting paid. I
have no choice but to hold out. We have no
choice but to trade you. This has not been a
buy the book holdout situation for Jonathan Taylor. This has
been full of emotion. And when emotion happens, things happen quickly.
And I'll tell you, I'll triple. I told you on
(35:38):
Monday he was going to be traded by Saturday. I
bet you Jonathan Taylor gets traded by tomorrow. Because you
look at the emotion that jim Irsay has had with
this entire situation. Right what he said that if Jonathan
Taylor left the league, nobody would care. That's an emotional
statement that you shouldn't make because you alienated your best player. Now,
Jonathan Taylor's emotional. I don't want to play for this team.
(35:58):
You're never gonna pay me. I want out. Okay, we're
letting you get We're letting you seek your own trade.
And now teams have been calling. They had six teams call,
They had a couple of offers, one or two. It
looks like maybe wasn't gonna happen, or this could be
part of the back and forth. Miami was there potentially involved.
And now you have tonight's game where Anthony Richardson shows
(36:20):
you the skill set that you saw to make him
that draft pick to be your franchise. This is an
emotional night, also on the night where Andrew Luck walked
away from your franchise four years ago, casting you in
darkness that you have still not been able to get
out from. You've started eleven different quarterbacks since Andrew Luck
said I've had enough of football at the age of
twenty nine. This is an emotional time. All of this
(36:43):
emotion for ERSA Taylor and now tonight with Richardson. Taylor
gets traded by end of day tomorrow at them New Saturday.
Over the weekend, it's gonna be what do we have?
I want to move on. I don't want this to
be a headline. Richardson's our guy, He's our franchise moving forward.
I want to be done and out of the Jonathan
Taylor business. He gets traded by end of day tomorrow. Yeah,
(37:04):
I was kind of.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Hoping he'd just be really stubborn and let the rubber
hit the road and be like, all right, you playing
or what are we doing here, because the other part
is still how good is that ankle? And how much
is posturing versus I'm salty as to what's going on,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
How much is I don't know that I can play too. Oh,
if you trade me, I could play right away. I'll
be right if you're ready for week one, Let's go.
Look at this.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I could run twenty one miles an hour.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Look at I could flat my arms like an eagle,
just like Anthony Richardson was tonight. How about that I
can do a little bit of that. Look Deon Jackson
Evan Hall. You know, I selfishly throw him out there
as much as I'm having a lot of head scratching
and soul searching moments about Northwestern as an institution right now,
(37:50):
you know what.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
He came out of the program. He's one of ours.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
But you've got a couple of guys, and Jackson had
a couple of games last year in place of Taylor.
You're like, all right, I don't know that you can
do it for over seventeen, but he's a guy that
can can certainly take up a chunk right. Acquitted himself
pretty decently as a receiver out of the backfield a
couple of games where he was averaging nearly four and a.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Half yards of pop.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
All right, let's run with that and the hole's a
good between the tackles runner battle tested from the Big ten.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
So okay, you can go down that road.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now? Is it the Eagles? The Dolphins? You know, what
are they trying to squeeze? Right?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
We had, you know, the conversation of all right, what's
true chart value? You know, if we're gonna go down
that road, right. We talked with Brian Billick about that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I had a lot of folks reach out and say
it was good to hear us chopping it up with
coach yesterday.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So that was fun.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
But you know, as he said, I don't know what
the chart is at this point in terms of evaluating
how many picks it would take to equate to a
number one. But if you're the Colts and you're looking
to get out of this business, then then yeah, at
some point you just have to rip the band aid off,
be done, get whatever that tray is and go with Miami.
(39:01):
There were reports that perhaps he'd be amenable to taking
a little bit less money to go down there and
become part of what McDaniel and company have and there's weapons, right,
you want to talk about a tailor made situation. No
pun intended to go in where you can run the
verticals and give him a lot of opportunity to make
(39:23):
some plays in the middle of the field. You got
to be salivating if you're Jonathan Taylor. You look at
the Eagles and what they have. You got a lot
of guys, and that's even after getting rid of Miles Sanders,
you still got a lot of guys in that backfield
to the point where like, all right, what's gain Well's
job here?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
What's you know?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
How much is DeAndre Swift gonna be there? And yes,
the Jonathan Taylor and DeAndre Swift photos are already out there,
the photo shopping of those two guys together for noted
Eagles fan Taylor Swift. That's great and the merchandise sells itself.
I mean, come on, let's go. But it's now the
the question of how much did they want to invest
(40:02):
long term in the position. Because they've had pretty good
success with the next man up. Let's have a gaggle
of running backs at our disposal, and it served them
well as Jalen Hirch grows there as their QB with
a good receiving course. So how much do you want
to invest? But knowing that even if you did have
(40:22):
to include a first round pick, you're banking on and
making a run to the playoffs, right, you're banking on
that being a mid twenties pick, if you're going to
have to go down that route. What I thought was
interesting and you talked about, you know, NFL Siberia since
there's you know, no trade clause that anybody's got to
worry about. You saw the trading dismantling of everything Steve
(40:46):
Kime had done in Arizona. They've got multiple number one
picks next year. So do you say, hey, you know what,
we really like Kyler Murray when he's healthy, let's go
get him Jonathan Taylor, give up one of these first
round picks.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
As Arizona is.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Like when when when a when a landlord has to
kick out a long time ted, Look, I'm sick of
your stuff. I'll just get out. It's there's piles everywhere.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Get out.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, I got do I want to worry about what
he's at. No, I'll clean the apartment out. And he
goes and oh, my god, there's all this stuff in
here that nobody wants or this has to be let's
just get let's just start, just get rid of it.
Hold away, hold.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Away, We'll start again. That's what's going on in the area.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
No, that's it.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
It's like all the stuff is Steve Kim had built
and we talked about it quite a bit, a lot
of how should we say, scrap parts that might be
might be treasure for somebody else, Right, that's what everybody,
you know, what they're gonna suddenly leave here and become gems.
And maybe they do, but certainly you know they're a
team that gets mentioned, just if nothing else for the
(41:48):
trade assets that they have that could make Indianapolis happy
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Progressive dot Com. So I'm happy with what I've seen
so far from Anthony Richardson. I get that, Hey, it's
gonna be a little bit of work in progress, but
that's fine.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
He has shown that that's what you drafted him to be. Yeah,
this is the complete opposite of the Trey Lance. Hey,
we've got a team that's ready to win. Does this
guy fit? Can we ramp him up? And then you
could blame everybody involved. He didn't assimilate quickly enough, he
couldn't stay healthy. The forty nine ers screwed him. Wherever
you are on that continuum, had to at it. Go
to your hot take.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Nonsense.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
This is quite clearly a this is going to be
your team, and we are going to grow and go
through those problems and the ebb and flow with you,
and hopefully there's more highs than lows, and the athleticism
may steal us a game or two along the way
in a division that's really not great. Right, we keep
going back to Jacksonville's your great team, and then all right,
(43:01):
Tennessee's gonna be good enough to be dangerous and Houston, eh,
here's another four win season for you. So maybe you
can steal a couple along the way. But you've committed
to that. You're not expecting greatness immediately. You just hope
for that gradual It doesn't have to be the steep
incline of the guy yodling on the prices right right
(43:21):
gradual slope. But this is also a game in which
if they named him the starting quarterback after tonight, I
would have gotten it. Okay, he showed enough that he
the game is not too big for him. But he
was named it a week ago. And again I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Why emotion, because right after Jonathan Taylor wanted a trade,
I want out where to let you seek a trade?
Speaker 4 (43:42):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
They said, Anthony Richards in their starting quarterback. I would
I would lay every dollar in my wallet. And it's
like it's like twenty three dollars. I would lay every
dollar my wallet. How did that? How did that get made?
It was a phone call or a meeting with Jim
Ursay saying, can we make it after the starting quarterback? Well,
we're gonna sip. Let me ask you again, can we
make Anthony the starting quarterback?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh yeah, sure, yes, absolutely we can, yes, one hundred
percent yes, because he because he wants to get out
of the Jonathan Taylor business and he wants to focus
on richardson which there was no reason to be named
the quarterback. Like I keep going back to Richardson saying,
I'm surprised they named it to me. I didn't think
that I had that I did it enough, but now
apparently I did.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Look at me.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I'm happy I'm here. This is, this is It's all
about emotion. I'm telling you, it's good they have Richardson.
But I'll go. But end of day tomorrow, Jonathan Taylor's
on a new team. Let's go new team. To me,
all I know is he didn't want to go to Chicago. Twitter,
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about it's all CFL football. Alb to loot. You are
overlords to the North. Yeah, you should see the guest
list he has. Mark Tressman is gonna be on like
every week. Oh, it's gonna be fit.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm gonna ask him some questions about the failed Bears experiments.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And the guys that started the CFL in Baltimore, Like, dude,
what were you thinking? Like these are the guests I
take that. No, that's good. Happy CFL. Come on.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean the guy just ran out of bounds on
a kickoff return and then got back onto the field
to play, and I was waiting for him to get
blown up. Fortunately the whistles were loud enough. Did everybody
finally stopping him? Like this guy's about to get wrecked.
He's about to get wrecked.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
My favorite part of the CFL is walking going all right,
how long and from when I start watching until I
see someone that I know that I've heard of, sure,
Like how long?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Like is it is it like ten minutes? Am I
going to find out? Nobody?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Is it five minutes? Is it ten seconds?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know what I've been done due diligence on there.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
It's going to be every jet receiver they've cycled through
the last five years.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
By the way, guys that said they retired or what.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's gonna go contry just caught a pass.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I don't know the CFL that you were talking, but
I looked up is this possible? This is week twelve
in the CFL.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, since June. Yeah, yeah, well the cow there's like
eighty six weeks in the season. Yeah, Blue Bombers come
in eight and two six.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, twenty one weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It says, oh yeah, gets a long schedule. It's a
long Great Cups around like what late November. Yeah, it's
like Thanksgiving is when the Great Cups. So this is
like the NHL was in Canada for years. You got
just a small amount of teams and they play each
other over and over and over, Yeah, for months on
it It is still like the NHL. It just sort
of like that. But I mean, I don't know. Man
(02:57):
is Winnipegan for like, are they the best team in
the CFL?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Steve?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, are they the best team? You're asking me,
I'm asking money, insider. Certainly you have money on this.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
This says Winnipeg is eight and two, first place, best
in the whole CFL.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And they're clinging to a three point lead over the
Expos over the Alouettes. Going to be a close, going
to be a close.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Marty's coming up next. Ellis Valentine mart.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Richards, linebacker out of Syracuse, is point Valentine, Gloucester out
of Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, because it's very easy to gallow, because you get
right up over the border very easily from Syracuse up
there and then you come back. Yeah, it's it's close
to me. You've got a couple of guys from Experience
for beer runs. Yeah, yeah, beer runs to Canada for
the bats. Are you kidding met? Oh my god? What bats? No.
Ellis Valentine was he was a guy that got hit
in the face once and so he wore the half
a football helmet over for the rest of his career.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Right, he had the half of he had the half
of football the bars.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
That wasn't called her own. That was Valentine.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, I believe that was Ellis.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Ellis Valentine was also once on a Fantasy Island episode.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Really really yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
One of the guy's fantasy was to like be an
all star on the field with all stars. So they
got the guys they could get to film and Ellis Valentine.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Now we have to see who else was on that island.
The superstar slash Salem was the title of the episode.
Steve Garvey, of course he was.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh, Steve Garvey was on Steve George, George Brett Okay, wow,
So they got.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Fred Lynn, Wow, and Ellis Valentine, ell Ella's Valentine on there?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Everybody else I get like late said, fred Lynn was
Rookie of the Year, MVP Big Red Sox center fielder.
I think Brett was a super duper star, one of
my favorite players ever.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, a couple of the stars Valentine, Leslie val Leslie
Nielsen and Gary berg.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Off was let me guess Radar was the catcher. Tobby
Sorta was on this episode.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Apparently George Brett was not wearing number five was twenty five.
So clearly Hollywood people have no idea about sports.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Even back then, that's the way you hide it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
We could just get you any number, right, are you
wearing enough?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Doesn't matter to Okay, great, we're playing number twenty five today.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Of course, mister baseball and football cards. Wasn't it true
back then that they didn't have an agreement for football
cards licensing? And they used to paint out the logos
on the helmet in the nineteen seventies, If like, you
get the Vikings Kickers card from tops or whatever, they
would literally paint out, but they would paint it out
(05:31):
in the shape of the Viking cords, so you could
kind of still yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean generally that happened after a guy left the team.
They would do the paint job is and they didn't
have a new photo of him.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Is this friend, Tarkenton?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I can't really tell. It's purple.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It seems like a Viking logos.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
They did that a lot in the baseball sets. When
a guy again would would get traded and they didn't
have a new photo of him, they'd be like, all right,
paint on a red Sox cap. So it's pretty pretty
odd looking and now there's just pain.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
In the person.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Like George Costanza into the.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Fold, right into the photo.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Think that's Chuck Foreman. I'm not sure Forrman.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's good reference at Frank Cooks. Thank you, thank you,
Steve O. And good luck with this bet. Hope, I hope,
I'm sorry. What did I bet again.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That I heard of?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Was the lie?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
The over on this? I think it was?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I think I think the over? I think did you
bet the over.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Under on Rouges? Didn't you say? Yes, the over under
for Rouges was one and a half and you bet
the over very red.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Did you say it was like twenty to twenty already,
so I guess it will be the over.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, he spread was eight and a half. But I'm
trying to find the over under it. I really want
to see a rouge I know you do. I want
to see a rouge DJ, not just in Chicago where
you can ruge your knees and roll your stocking down.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
For all that jazz.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
We've already seen one this summer. The entire met season
was a ruge.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
A ruge, it's a U. But yes, big NFL games
tonight because it is the final dress rehearsal, final games.
Stealers are crushing the falcons right now twenty four to
nothing with about three and a half to go in
the fourth quarter. Early in the third the Colts and
the Eagles seventeen to thirteen. Let's start with Steelers Falcons
here for a couple minutes, because there always is something
(07:16):
big to take away from Week three, and I know
he only had a little bit of time tonight.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
But seeing him in the tiny bit that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I have so far this preseason, I feel better about
Kenny Pickett and the Steelers than I did a few
months ago. Coming off from last year. Kenny Pickett was
not good, and every time I had to watch Steelers
fans go but hey, if you watch that drive against
the Browns in the third quarter when we scored a touchdown,
(07:46):
you're really so you're telling me one drive when they
scored ten points in the game that he led them
on the touchdown drive. That's why I mean they were
reaching so much for something positive for Kenny Pickett. Kenny
Pickett was terrible. He was awful. Now I give him
the benefit of the doubt that he can pick up
a little bit more coming into year two, and the
Steelers have some pretty good weapons right there there. Backfield's
(08:06):
probably headed for some kind of split. At some point
Jayalen Warren's going to take over. But between Warren and
Naji Harris, George Pickens, who was incredibly talented, Deontay Johnson,
as long as you hold onto the football, Friar Muth
is a really good tight end. You have pretty good
weapons in Pittsburgh, and all you need is him to
be able to get the ball to the He couldn't
get the ball to them last year. He was not good.
He was flustered a lot. He was not accurate this time.
(08:28):
So what I've seen so far, again it's before the season.
This is what I'll give them. I feel a little
bit better about Pittsburgh and a little bit better about
Kenny Pickett. What I've seen so far this preseason.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well that's just it, right, the big progression, the big jump.
They did win five in their final six games. To
your point about not being an explosive offense, Look, if
you're winning your winning right, you'll you'll take the growth
in statistics later on. How many quarterbacks would you rather say, Hey,
you know what, you were five and five and twelve,
but you throw it from forty three hundred yards, Good
(08:59):
for you? You who wants that No, it's about w's
especially when you're looking at what Pittsburgh does, and they
were able to grind games out, get to the ground
more effectively, didn't need to put up pinball numbers, and
that defense is pretty good as it normally is, so
expect more of the same this year. And then now
it becomes the question offensive line, can they get on
(09:21):
the blocking sleds and and create some some lanes. Naji
Harris a guy that two years ago pretty excited about
last year hit and miss which opened the door for Warren,
has a good.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Average is two point three yards per carry. He's like
Jeremy Hill. I mean, come on, man, he Naj Harris
is Naji Harris had had a good run for a
few games two years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
This guy does. He's not dynamic love.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's a volume running back, which you know you can't
be a volume running back anymore because you don't carry
the ball twenty seven times a game.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well, and that's the big thing is that you're gonna
get the workload split. He's already a bit solid about it.
When asked how the room was going a couple of
times during camp, the side eye he gave reporters, Uh,
didn't exactly speak well of where he's at mentally dealing
with it. But hey, you know what, deal with it.
Jalen Warren's gonna have a big workload. Tomblin's going to
(10:17):
make sure that things keep humming along. And if you're
not on board, guess what you'll see your percentage of carries,
your percentage of touches decrease markedly.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I would expect more Jalen Warren as we go on.
But you mentioned the pass receivers like it's another year.
It's another year of growth. It's like we get excited
about what might happen with the New York Football Giants, right,
a lot of bodies, a lot of new people in
but it's another year. Daniel Jones made the step of
being efficient. Not overwhelming numbers, but it's forty dollars a
(10:49):
year efficient to get you to a playoffs and now
the next is and now it's on your shoulder. You
got to make something happen. Kenny Picketts and that same
year for the Pittsburgh steel.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I feel, look, the Steelers have this run that they're
always going to be good, and I understand that because
they are no matter what kind of team they're in
the hunt. They're always in that. They never have a
We're looking at a four and twelve season where no, look,
what's their five hundred run is?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's incredible?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, this comes down to is TJ. Wat got to
be healthy? Yeah, there's your big indicator of how well
or poorly this team's gonna do. Is your defense anchored
by the guy that, when he's healthy, is arguably the
best defensive player in football. But do I look at
this Steeler team as a team that, Hey, with Kenny Pickett,
this is a twelve or thirteen win team. No, it's not.
(11:39):
This is a Steeler team that if things go right
for them, they figure it out. Kenny Pickett is full
they can win ten games because you know what, that
division is pretty difficult. Bengals are the best team. The
Browns will be better than they were a year ago.
You know, they may wind up sitting around where they
were last year or right just because hey, everybody else
(12:00):
a lot. Bet'll just look better. Your quarterback needs better,
it would Hey, why do we lose this game twenty
four to twenty one?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We lost this game twenty seven to twenty four. Oh,
he lost this one sixteen thirteen. The Steelers are always
going to be there. But that's what I'll give. I
feel a little bit better about Kenny Pickett, who I
would love to live in Pittsburgh and be Kenny Pickett
because I can do no wrong. I could stink out
loud like I did all year last year, and all
everybody's saying in the off season is, Oh, he's gonna
be great. Look how great he was. Look when he
(12:27):
threw that one pass, when he threw that out to
Deontay Johnson that he didn't drop. Remember that Week twelve,
that passed in the second quarter at the six forty
six mark, when we gained thirteen yards to each.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
That was some pass, buddy, That Deontay Johnson catch that
you needed for your fantasy squad.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Was last year. This last year.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Now, in theory, the percentage of drops dips once again
and you have more opportunity. And that was the one
thing last year, both he and Pickings, there were times
there were plays to be made and they'd get excited. Right,
you see day light before you secure the football, Make
the catch first, Make the catch first, Make Kenny look good.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
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we were all hoping it was gonna stay close, maybe
we'd see a big upset tonight, but it looks like
the best team in the CFL. It's going to move
on with a win tonight. Yeah, Blue Bombers pulling away. Yeah,
I'll tell you, Manto. The Aloetes kept it close, but
a big touchdown pass from somebody to somebody. We just
watched the thirty seven seventeen and Steve Disager is a
(15:38):
really rich dude because the over hit for him, and
now he is going to be I mean, really, he
should buy pizza tonight. I mean, I'm I'm buying pizza tonight,
but he should buy pizza tonight.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, I mean, you know, you transfer transfer the debt,
you hit the over hit the over on it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Wow easily too. He still had a full quarter of it.
Isn't isn't it in a quarter in the CFL? Twenty
five minutes? Don't they play one hundred minute games like it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You know what's great though, there's actually people in the
stands there. I was just showing you a shot from
guaranteed raid Field, you know, because Steve's so kind as
to mock me in his updates. Let me give you
a bunch of details about two teams that suck. Yeah
was they've hit five home runs. They announced attendance of
thirteen thousand bag ball There might have been thirteen in
the image.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I can't even say there was more than If you
said three hundred, I would say, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Man A's and White Sox, I wrote.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
My brother, what do you think eight hundred people?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Now?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's one hundred degrees in Chicago, yes, and Youngs and
Roses is over at Wrigley Field.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go out on a limb.
Guns N' Roses had a bigger, bigger crowd. I'm gonna
guess here, absolutely right. Even if they played that new
song that's terrible like that News has the only song
that they play, We're gonna play perhaps eleven times, and
that's our concert tonight. More people would stay for that.
Are you gonna go with me when they come here
in October?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yea in October?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, it's at the new football seat.
Yeah yeah, I mean I really, I really wish to
go back to qualcoms, like because then I feel like
I'm going to see them in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
No, I get this, you know Qualcom was like that.
But yeah, we'll go to San.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Diego Sunday night. All right, we'll make that happen unless
unless the Jets are playing, if the Jets get flexed
to Sunday night, which could happen. Actually, I should probably
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Save at Progressive dot Com. Well a little bit more
on Otani before we get to the latest today involving
Trey Lance. You know now he's going to be out.
He's not going to pitch for the rest of this year.
We told you that his contract isn't going to reflect
pitching at all. He's going to get paid to be
a big slugger. Think of what Aaron Judge and Bryce Harper,
what these guys are getting that's gonna be Otani's contract,
(17:53):
maybe a little bit more because he's a bigger draw
than Judge and Harper. But the days of him being
this unicorn and and doing something baseball we've never seen,
those days are likely over and and we're gonna talk
about him as being a star, but we're gonna look
back at this three year run and go, can you
(18:14):
can you remember when Otani did that and then his
body just couldn't hold up Because it's a lot. It's
a lot to go through. The rigors of playing every day,
even when you're a designated hitter, and then every fifth
day pitching. It's a lot to go through. And last night,
when when the story broke, I kept thinking, I really
would like a doctor to weigh in and say, hey, yeah,
this is what happened major League baseball. It is a
(18:35):
lot of stress on you to pitch every fifth day
when you are playing a position. And I came around
to this today. Is that not that how do I
say this? Not that we should have seen it coming,
but we shouldn't be as surprised that something like this happens,
because when you're doing something that nobody in baseball is
(18:59):
done in eighty years, and you're doing it on a
high level over the course of three years. How long
can you really do this for? Right? How long could
you really expect Otani to stay healthy pitching, stay healthy
hitting and do both of those things right? Really, just
to be realistic, how long could you honestly expect Otani
(19:20):
to be able to do something like that? Did we
just think it was gonna happen in infinity? He's gonna
be thirty eight years old and pitching and with an
ERA of two and a half and still hitting fifty
home runs. We think we're gonna see it for ten years,
twelve years. I feel like this is something that shouldn't
be that surprising, just because to be able to keep
up what he's keeping up is inhuman and at some
(19:42):
point he was gonna show us that he was a
little bit human. And that's kind of what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Now the training and the process, and look at every level,
we've seen guys have to make the choice. In a
couple of cases, we've had players maybe not able to
achieve not because of injury necessarily, but performance as a pitcher,
go back and come reinvent as a hitter or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
We've seen that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
We've certainly seen a lot of pictures go and have
injuries and then reinvent themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Right, John Smoltz, one of the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Greatest starters we saw, gets hurt, comes back, becomes what
behind Rivera and Hoffman. I mean these top three, right,
He's metal stand in terms of closers once he got rolling. So,
I mean, we've certainly seen those types of situations. But
but I think you're right, and I think and I
think we celebrated it and commemorated it properly in that respect,
(20:34):
knowing that you only you only got so many games,
and it's it's the only time we've ever seen it, right,
go back to Babe Ruth. That's fine, that's a one
hundred years ago. We got nothing. We got sped up
footage of him. It's running really fast with his baby
steps around the field. Other than that, it's a lot
of you know, legend and myth building, and for this
(20:56):
we got to watch it play out where you had
the heroics at the plate and then every fifth day,
not always dominant, but he battled right as a pitcher
and got to the fifth, sixth innings in most starts,
not always you know, clean sheets and whatever else.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
But the fact that he was doing it. I think
as a for a.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Sports media, let's put it this way, that is quick
to dismiss everything and throw it out. This is one
time that everybody got behind the story, which we don't
get right. People get get on board a team or
a player and then as quickly as they could possibly
find a reason to jump off and go against the
(21:39):
crowd and get into hot take nonsense we do right,
How fast did everybody decide they hated the Warriors after
they change basketball?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
This is great? Now? Basketball sucks and it's your full
n I was into them for eighteen months and now
I'm done after that.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That was the life cycle of it, right, that was
the gestation period of great they won?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
All right, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Go back to basketball where there's a bunch of seven
footers cladding around in the paint and we slow the
game down.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
No, that's it with Otani.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I think this was one where I don't think anybody
got to the negative side of it, you know, saying
it's overhyped. This is ridiculous because we hadn't seen it.
Because we did get to go and celebrate look Mike Trout,
and he looked like they were gonna be the greatest
tag team this side of the road Warriors back in
their running rough shot across the Awa. I mean, this
(22:30):
is what it was. And then well, Trout couldn't stay
on the field, so it became the show Heyo Tani show.
And as he began to pitch again coming off of
the Tommy John surgery and whatever, the legend grew with
every start. And then you have the World Baseball Classic
where he takes Mike Trout down right. They printed a
lot of cards. Top just does this on demand thing
(22:51):
with big events, and they did one of the trout
Otani at Bat, which sold tens of thousands of copies.
Trout very proudly, he has several autographed by the two
of them. He can assure that that never happens again.
Very genius by him and building his baseball car collection.
But those are now selling for one hundreds of dollars
just because it's such a mythical moment of them facing
(23:13):
each other. But now you have the gravity of well,
how many meaningful games is he gonna throw again?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
If ever? Yeah, I mean, maybe he can, maybe he
can close, Maybe he can start again, But how long
until he's gonna get hurt? Right, what's the shelf life is?
Because he's been hurt twice now, this is two big
arm injuries in five years. And if I could go ahead,
if I could look ahead, say let's go five years
from now. Okay, so let's go twenty twenty eight. The
Olympics are here in Los Angeles. It's ninety degrees every day.
(23:43):
And Otani has had his time. He's in, you know,
nearing the end of his career, or maybe the middle
part of the end of his career, and he's never
gotten back to pitching because his arm couldn't take it.
You are gonna see books and series and specials and
movies and documentaries about the last three years of what
Otani was able to do. And it's going to get
(24:05):
even more mythical than it is.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It is schedule and what he had to do to
be right and get right. And what I don't want
happening is what I've already seen in twenty four hours,
all these dopey articles blaming the angels.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know what, he's a grown ass man, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
If he had discomfort, whether it was this injury or
going back to the fatigue multiple times, all those things.
He's got to say something, right. He's not an eighteen
year old kid trying to please, you know, a high
school coach towards a state title or trying to earn
a college scholarship. You're a grown ass man. So to
(24:40):
keep blaming the Angels for trying tobout and yes, the selfishly,
you know, they've got to be wise about it too.
But everybody's going into the poison pills and poison pens
on the Angels saying, well they knew he wasn't right.
He's like, well he knows his body. If he's saying, hey,
I'm good to go. No, no, you know what, We're
(25:01):
gonna save you for good. We're gonna put you in
mothballs for good, like my mom all those years growing up.
It's like we're saving those for good.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Good never comes. Wear the damn clothes. I never get
to wear that shirt. No, at least the bumps and
bruises that he has had were not related to this.
It's not as if Otani said a month ago, hey
my arm is hurt, and the Angels saying we got bobbleheads. Man,
we gotta make money.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
We're gonna we may lose you in free agency.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Get out there. What did he have? He had cramps,
which is just you know, had cramping is she's had
to come out a game.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's been hot.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He had cramping in his fingers. Okay, it's not that
he had something wrong with his elbow. The minute they
felt that he had lost velocity, he had diminished velocity,
he came out of the game.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
It happens. Every arm only has so.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Many pitches in it, and some pitchers are lucky because
they are still throwing pitches in the thirty eight, thirty
nine years old, and David Robertson's trying to close for
the Marlins right now. At you know, at thirty nine
he was an e's a and after thought for the Mets,
turned into a really good player. And some guys get
out of their twenties without arm problem. When when's Jacob
Look at Look at what I mean he just announced
(26:05):
his retirement. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look it's right, I
remember he ever know? Was that four years ago?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah? He was the next big thing.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You were ruining the day of his arrival because he
was gonna be in division, tormenting you every fifth day,
and then the guy hasn't been able to be.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Right, yeah the entire time. Sometimes with pitchers it's just
they can only withstand so much. And that's what that's
how I see Otani is that he was able to
do it for three years and now he'll spend the
next few years trying to get to that point. Because look,
he's not gonna suddenly say I'm not pitching anymore. But
can he really trust him to be the lights out pitcher?
Probably not. He's he ever gonna be back to being
(26:39):
the guy with just being realistic, probably not. Could he close, yeah,
maybe he can close, right, Maybe he can closed. He
can he can pitch and throw one inning every other day,
and and if you need him to close games, he
can do it. Yeah, I could see that. But to
get back to where he is, I think that era
is over. And that's why another reason why last night
was such a big hel because everything the guy did
(27:02):
was a headline and we're still gonna run through that.
He's still gonna be a big story, but we're not
gonna it's not gonna be where here's seven innings of
one hit ball and then and two home runs in
the same game. Those days, and it's it's I feel
bad for sports fans, not only just him, but sports
fans because we're in the moment and it's hard to
(27:22):
it's hard to appreciate some some kind of greatness when
you're seeing it, just because you're in the moment. Because
we see great things all the time in sports, right,
big Evans. Ever, there's nothing that shocks us. Right, there's
nothing that here's a big thing, here's a big thing.
If a guy it's five home runs in the game, Wow,
big deals. And to see o Tani, Wow, he's pitching
and he's playing. Okay, Well, it's nothing. It's nothing that
(27:44):
is the is the shock value of oh my goodness,
the entire world stops for me. It's, oh, hey, this
is wow, this is something. I really appreciate what he's doing.
But you don't really appreciate and you don't do it
until they're done playing. And we're gonna like, we'll look
back at otud. You're gonna have people who, let's say
you and I grew up in the in the mid
seventies early eighties, and we would hear stories about Babe
(28:05):
Ruth and Lou Garrig and what they were able to do,
and this is baseball in the twenties and thirties, and
Joe DiMaggio and Ted.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Demajo and then look at I mean, Mickey Mannle and
Willie Mays. I mean that was their names were just
slung around all the time. Ernie Banks, yeah, who retired
just a couple of years before. I'm watching baseball right
and growing up in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And you jump ahead fifty years from now when the
Mets are done paying Bobby Benea. You jump ahead fifty
years from now to twenty seventy four, and fans will
be talking about show. Hey Otani, like we talked about
Babe Ruth, like we talked about guys like those absolute legs. Yeah,
what was funny?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Though I do it for three years, he pitched, he
did that, But I do.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
A weekly hit.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I mean one of the first people to give me
some airtime long ago in Baltimore, good friend of mine
always get on for a couple of minutes, and they
asked a question right off to jump about Otani and residents.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I go.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
One of the things we pride ourselves on the show
is we don't kick any can down the road. We
were doing conversation about people moving the needle must see
TV or at least, hey, I'm gonna scan look if
there's any highlights box scores right coming off the messy game,
and we included Otani on the list and then literally
we're going to break in. It's like, oh oh no,
(29:17):
and we had to come right back and start talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But he was one of.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Those guys that that moves the needle. And this is
certainly a seizemic shift free agency history. All of that
stuff wrapped in one.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
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Just something to think about for Otani when you look
back and go, wow, it's not as surprising as you
think and appreciate what we got to see. Eight seven
seven ninety nine one Fox eight seven seven nine nine
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Speaker 4 (30:00):
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(31:10):
football tonight, and I mean that we nearly saw a
fifty Burger put up in the CFL. Yeah, we did.
Welcome back CFL. The CFL's big night, Friday Night though
it's like Friday Night CFL.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, No, We've had some Fridays in our history here.
But the fact that we're trying to expand, now, why
would you not, I mean, before the NFL season really
begins in Earnest where college football is back, why would
you not try to take over another night.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
We're gonna put it up against your football. Yeah, I
know you want to do that, but it's preseason. Yeah,
it doesn't matter. There's only two of your preseason games.
We will be counterprogramming. Now, there are two big stories
coming off of one of these games tonight. Now, I
know a lot of Colts fans are going, Okay, we're
playing tonight on the four year anniversary that Andrew Luck retired.
(31:57):
I really don't want to see a headline with John
Than Taylor or Anthony Richardson. I decided to become a LARPer.
I'm gonna be a live action role player and I'm
leaving football. That's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know he would have been using but think about that.
I mean, Captain Andrew Luck had its own thing. We
commemorated it all the time on these social media whereas
whoever was running that account and then would later apply
it to other quarterbacks. But nobody had a better neck
beard than Andrew Luck. I'm gonna go throw axes for
a living at people. Well, at his cadence in press
(32:31):
conferences and interviews, I mean it worked. He was a
guy that fit into another time.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Now we'll get to Luck in a minute because it
is the big four year anniversary of him shockingly retiring.
But speaking of quarterbacks, tonight, you watched Anthony richardson have
a look, have a good night.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Now you're gonna look at his numbers and go six
out of seventeen.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
No, you gotta sell people on that a little bit. Hey, Look,
Anthony Richard is not a guy you're expected to come
in the league right now and go b It was
fifteen out of six. He completed a high percentage of
his passes. No, he's someone that is going to get
by on his physical ability for a little bit as
he gets reps. Because a guy has only played in
sixteen games since he graduated high school, that's not a
lot of reps, right, So he and this is why
(33:14):
he went number four overall because physically he is just
an absolute freak.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
And you saw some of the throws.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He was able to make tonight of his six completions,
and you know that. Okay, he's got that there well,
and now you've got you and you have a head
coach that you've just given the reins that you're not
gonna have a short leash on unless he does something
to completely throw Jimmersy off the deep end.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
They're gonna get to grow together and develop. So it's
one of those it's a good it's a good marriage
in that regard.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So we watched him make some big throat like he
made a couple of throws and I go, wow, that
was that was a that's a big time throw, you know,
dropping it there, dropping it among coverage. I watched him
take off at the right times, making plays with his legs.
That's what he's gonna be for a while, and that's
pretty good, right, So I'm feeling pretty good about Anthony rat.
I gotta get through some of that wind up he's got.
(34:05):
He's got a big wind up before release. They'll have
to shorten. Tibo will teach him how to shorten his
Why that was my whole thing. I was I was
winding up too much. Looked like he was shot putting
the ball. But that was the correction. But they still
put seventeen points on the board in the first half.
And you can talk about stats till you're blue in
the face, but seventeen points a seventeen points looking for
(34:26):
positive puts up? Yes, right? Does he know when to
take off and run?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Can he execute some of the plays that they decided
to throw out here today? And and he passes right?
Six to seventeen isn't gonna while you, But you got
to go look at the highlight reels, go play for play.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
There was some good things to take away.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
The growth is there still a very steep curve coming
out of the short sample size of college football.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
But you know what, that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
They've decided this is the path they're taking as opposed
to giving us Minshew mania.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Now I'll give you a big Bold prediction. I'll give
you a big Bowl prediction because the Jonathan Taylor situation
has been hanging over the Colts and the league. Now
that potentially he could be traded sometime before Tuesday. Jim
irsay as soon as today and here's the thing. It's
been emotional.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
This has not been.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
A NFL is a business. I'm not getting paid. I
have no choice but to hold out. We have no
choice but to trade you. This has not been a
buy the book holdout situation for Jonathan Taylor. This has
been full of emotion. And when emotion happens, things happen quickly.
And I'll tell you, I'll triple. I told you on
(35:38):
Monday he was going to be traded by Saturday. I
bet you Jonathan Taylor gets traded by tomorrow. Because you
look at the emotion that jim Irsay has had with
this entire situation. Right what he said that if Jonathan
Taylor left the league, nobody would care. That's an emotional
statement that you shouldn't make because you alienated your best player. Now,
Jonathan Taylor's emotional. I don't want to play for this team.
(35:58):
You're never gonna pay me. I want out. Okay, we're
letting you get We're letting you seek your own trade.
And now teams have been calling. They had six teams call,
They had a couple of offers, one or two. It
looks like maybe wasn't gonna happen, or this could be
part of the back and forth. Miami was there potentially involved.
And now you have tonight's game where Anthony Richardson shows
(36:20):
you the skill set that you saw to make him
that draft pick to be your franchise. This is an
emotional night, also on the night where Andrew Luck walked
away from your franchise four years ago, casting you in
darkness that you have still not been able to get
out from. You've started eleven different quarterbacks since Andrew Luck
said I've had enough of football at the age of
twenty nine. This is an emotional time. All of this
(36:43):
emotion for ERSA Taylor and now tonight with Richardson. Taylor
gets traded by end of day tomorrow at them New Saturday.
Over the weekend, it's gonna be what do we have?
I want to move on. I don't want this to
be a headline. Richardson's our guy, He's our franchise moving forward.
I want to be done and out of the Jonathan
Taylor business. He gets traded by end of day tomorrow. Yeah,
(37:04):
I was kind of.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Hoping he'd just be really stubborn and let the rubber
hit the road and be like, all right, you playing
or what are we doing here, because the other part
is still how good is that ankle? And how much
is posturing versus I'm salty as to what's going on,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
How much is I don't know that I can play too. Oh,
if you trade me, I could play right away. I'll
be right if you're ready for week one, Let's go.
Look at this.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I could run twenty one miles an hour.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Look at I could flat my arms like an eagle,
just like Anthony Richardson was tonight. How about that I
can do a little bit of that. Look Deon Jackson
Evan Hall. You know, I selfishly throw him out there
as much as I'm having a lot of head scratching
and soul searching moments about Northwestern as an institution right now,
(37:50):
you know what.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
He came out of the program. He's one of ours.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
But you've got a couple of guys, and Jackson had
a couple of games last year in place of Taylor.
You're like, all right, I don't know that you can
do it for over seventeen, but he's a guy that
can can certainly take up a chunk right. Acquitted himself
pretty decently as a receiver out of the backfield a
couple of games where he was averaging nearly four and a.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Half yards of pop.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
All right, let's run with that and the hole's a
good between the tackles runner battle tested from the Big ten.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
So okay, you can go down that road.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now? Is it the Eagles? The Dolphins? You know, what
are they trying to squeeze? Right?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
We had, you know, the conversation of all right, what's
true chart value? You know, if we're gonna go down
that road, right. We talked with Brian Billick about that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I had a lot of folks reach out and say
it was good to hear us chopping it up with
coach yesterday.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So that was fun.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
But you know, as he said, I don't know what
the chart is at this point in terms of evaluating
how many picks it would take to equate to a
number one. But if you're the Colts and you're looking
to get out of this business, then then yeah, at
some point you just have to rip the band aid off,
be done, get whatever that tray is and go with Miami.
(39:01):
There were reports that perhaps he'd be amenable to taking
a little bit less money to go down there and
become part of what McDaniel and company have and there's weapons, right,
you want to talk about a tailor made situation. No
pun intended to go in where you can run the
verticals and give him a lot of opportunity to make
(39:23):
some plays in the middle of the field. You got
to be salivating if you're Jonathan Taylor. You look at
the Eagles and what they have. You got a lot
of guys, and that's even after getting rid of Miles Sanders,
you still got a lot of guys in that backfield
to the point where like, all right, what's gain Well's
job here?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
What's you know?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
How much is DeAndre Swift gonna be there? And yes,
the Jonathan Taylor and DeAndre Swift photos are already out there,
the photo shopping of those two guys together for noted
Eagles fan Taylor Swift. That's great and the merchandise sells itself.
I mean, come on, let's go. But it's now the
the question of how much did they want to invest
(40:02):
long term in the position. Because they've had pretty good
success with the next man up. Let's have a gaggle
of running backs at our disposal, and it served them
well as Jalen Hirch grows there as their QB with
a good receiving course. So how much do you want
to invest? But knowing that even if you did have
(40:22):
to include a first round pick, you're banking on and
making a run to the playoffs, right, you're banking on
that being a mid twenties pick, if you're going to
have to go down that route. What I thought was
interesting and you talked about, you know, NFL Siberia since
there's you know, no trade clause that anybody's got to
worry about. You saw the trading dismantling of everything Steve
(40:46):
Kime had done in Arizona. They've got multiple number one
picks next year. So do you say, hey, you know what,
we really like Kyler Murray when he's healthy, let's go
get him Jonathan Taylor, give up one of these first
round picks.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
As Arizona is.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Like when when when a when a landlord has to
kick out a long time ted, Look, I'm sick of
your stuff. I'll just get out. It's there's piles everywhere.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Get out.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, I got do I want to worry about what
he's at. No, I'll clean the apartment out. And he
goes and oh, my god, there's all this stuff in
here that nobody wants or this has to be let's
just get let's just start, just get rid of it.
Hold away, hold.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Away, We'll start again. That's what's going on in the area.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
No, that's it.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
It's like all the stuff is Steve Kim had built
and we talked about it quite a bit, a lot
of how should we say, scrap parts that might be
might be treasure for somebody else, Right, that's what everybody,
you know, what they're gonna suddenly leave here and become gems.
And maybe they do, but certainly you know they're a
team that gets mentioned, just if nothing else for the
(41:48):
trade assets that they have that could make Indianapolis happy
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Progressive dot Com. So I'm happy with what I've seen
so far from Anthony Richardson. I get that, Hey, it's
gonna be a little bit of work in progress, but
that's fine.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
He has shown that that's what you drafted him to be. Yeah,
this is the complete opposite of the Trey Lance. Hey,
we've got a team that's ready to win. Does this
guy fit? Can we ramp him up? And then you
could blame everybody involved. He didn't assimilate quickly enough, he
couldn't stay healthy. The forty nine ers screwed him. Wherever
you are on that continuum, had to at it. Go
to your hot take.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Nonsense.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
This is quite clearly a this is going to be
your team, and we are going to grow and go
through those problems and the ebb and flow with you,
and hopefully there's more highs than lows, and the athleticism
may steal us a game or two along the way
in a division that's really not great. Right, we keep
going back to Jacksonville's your great team, and then all right,
(43:01):
Tennessee's gonna be good enough to be dangerous and Houston, eh,
here's another four win season for you. So maybe you
can steal a couple along the way. But you've committed
to that. You're not expecting greatness immediately. You just hope
for that gradual It doesn't have to be the steep
incline of the guy yodling on the prices right right
(43:21):
gradual slope. But this is also a game in which
if they named him the starting quarterback after tonight, I
would have gotten it. Okay, he showed enough that he
the game is not too big for him. But he
was named it a week ago. And again I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Why emotion, because right after Jonathan Taylor wanted a trade,
I want out where to let you seek a trade?
Speaker 4 (43:42):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
They said, Anthony Richards in their starting quarterback. I would
I would lay every dollar in my wallet. And it's
like it's like twenty three dollars. I would lay every
dollar my wallet. How did that? How did that get made?
It was a phone call or a meeting with Jim
Ursay saying, can we make it after the starting quarterback? Well,
we're gonna sip. Let me ask you again, can we
make Anthony the starting quarterback?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh yeah, sure, yes, absolutely we can, yes, one hundred
percent yes, because he because he wants to get out
of the Jonathan Taylor business and he wants to focus
on richardson which there was no reason to be named
the quarterback. Like I keep going back to Richardson saying,
I'm surprised they named it to me. I didn't think
that I had that I did it enough, but now
apparently I did.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Look at me.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I'm happy I'm here. This is, this is It's all
about emotion. I'm telling you, it's good they have Richardson.
But I'll go. But end of day tomorrow, Jonathan Taylor's
on a new team. Let's go new team. To me,
all I know is he didn't want to go to Chicago. Twitter,
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