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we jump right in. It's a big NBA and now
we got tons of NFL to get to. Oh yeah yeah,
but the Knicks have broken their four game losing streak
beating the Clippers. Thank you, thank you. The Knicks championship

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medal proving again, I don't know why we're still playing basketball.
I watched the Knicks win the championship at the end
of last year. They're just waiting for next November for
the ceremony when that's when they hang the banner. I
don't know it. But we're still playing, so that's fine.
An exhibition, that's okay. I mean the Knicks are so talented,
they're like the modern day Globe Trotters. Oh sure, yeah,

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bigger stage. I mean, the Globe Trotters are still out there.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
They're still getting after it, but it's not quite the
same as we knew with Gee Sawsby and Curly Neil
in company.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Meanwhile, Lakers and the Spurs marquee game of the night
right now, early in the first quarter. Spurs lead at
sixteen eleven. Right now, the Lakers playing without Lebron James,
who is basically out because we'll get to the big
trade in a second. Don't worry, but out because basically
he's old. Look I'm more or less said yeah, no, no,

(02:00):
he said, listen back to back to me. You know
we don't that that doesn't go together. Yeah, I don't.
I don't do that kind of left it out.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Hey, we'll see grab your popcorn and then uh d MP,
so away he goes, we got Wemby on a miniature restriction.
He's already blocking Luca in the lane. Uh, they've got
the Emirates logo on the court though. Yeah, it is
a cup game or not? Well is it Cup part two?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Well? I think well, I think. You know, they were
very upset that they lost the first Cup to the Knicks,
so now they're trying to win a second Cup. This
is Cup two.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
They just said we want to rematch, like they lost
a title belt in horrible fashion.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is demanded a rematch immediately. Not to google this,
but this is two cups aful I did what, don't go?
Two cups? David Robinson at the game tonight, the Admiral,
they just showed he still looks like really you know,
they said that boy, you know, he does still look

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like he could play. Yeah, he still looks like he
can play.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, you know, I heard an interesting stat listening to
a little bit of pregame fun. Wemby is one of
forty guys over seven feet tall playing in the NBA.
The show Oh, they're going to say in the world,
there's forty people over something that No, no, but tell me
just that's interesting, right, and that because you don't think
about it because it's always hey, that guy's a giant's like, no,
there's thirty nine others.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Now, you know. But the thing is what looking at
Lebron on the sideline, there's just certain times where I see,
you know, you see certain video of players that just
happens to be at the right time, and something sticks
in your mind about it. And I just looked at
Lebron sitting in street clothes on the sideline, not playing obviously,
look you're not playing him back to back yet thirty
points last night, and I looked, I saw the look

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on his face, and I just said, man, he is miserable.
This is just a miserable year for him. The only
joy he could probably find is the is the whatever. However,
many of the forty eight minutes a night he spends
on the court because he's been shunted aside for the Lakers,
it's Luca driven, you know, it's his last year there,
it's probably his last year in the NBA, and this

(04:04):
is how Lebron's going out. I got to talk about
sitting out games and being old and trying to control
the narrative, and he just looks bad, like this is
not how it should end. And the thing is, I'm
with him on that this is not how it should
end for Lebron James. This is a guy that has
stirred the drink for two bleeping decades in the NBA. Right,
whatever we want to say about all these other great players, yeah,

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none of them hold the popularity or the interest that
Lebron James had. Love him, hate him down the middle.
I love his talent, I hate how he acts. Sometimes
I love everything about him. I hate everything about him.
This is not how he should go out, And I
feel like he's going out as a side player where
the entire world sees it, and I see his body language,

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and I feel like it's affecting him. And I don't
know if he's trying to find trying to find the
right way to get past this. And again, the forty
eight minutes he spends on the court every night is
probably his one escape from it, which is you know, hey,
we always try to find that as well. Your day
is like you find the escape where you can forget
about things that are bothering you for a while. And
I gotta think that he's just looking forward saying in

(05:07):
the playoffs, I'm gonna take over and it's gonna be
my time again, and that's all I'm gonna go out.
But I see the way this is not how Lebron
James should go out here as a as a side
show with Luca. It's just I get what the Lakers.
I'm not saying Lakers aren't doing anything anything wrong. It's
just I didn't see this happening for how Lebron was
gonna finish.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now here's how it comes down. Remember the nineteen eighty
nine classic Batman after sitting in a chair with a
plastic surgeon that doesn't really know what he's doing. Mirror, Yeah,
Lebron needs to look in the miror. Okay, he opted
in for his fifty two point three this is what
you get and he said everything right yesterday, Right, we're

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it's Lucas squad.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
We all gotta fit in.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And you can tell that it was like someone stabbing
him in the gut rematedly as that's going on, or
giving him a little little nudge, which is like, hey,
you recognize, I appreciate what you're saying. But he looked pained. Right,
that's one of those Yeah, we all have to fit
in around him. It's Lucas Scott. Can you guys turn

(06:12):
the camera off. I really don't want to talk about
this anymore. That's where we're at with Lebron James in this.
He chose to come back to a situation where he
knew he wasn't gonna be the number one guy, and
it's made it uncomfortable. And there's spots. Even last night's
game looked fantastic, right, lobs, big breakout dunks, all of
those great things, but minute to minute it's parsed out,

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defensive inadequacies and all of those things. Look at the
Lakers have a great record, right, They're off to a
great start, but it's the noise that is around it.
It is the all right, when they do lose against
better teams, it gets magnified of all right, here where
their deficiencies really are. They can beat up on bums.

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There's a bunch of teams that are ing, okay, they
can win those games, but then it's the step up
in class. Can you give a defensive effort consistently and
they close out games pretty well? Right, We've seen that.
There's a bunch of metrics to prove that out, But
over the long haul, he chose this fate. He could
have gone somewhere else and tried to be the missing piece,

(07:19):
the hero, the whatever. He decided to stay with the Lakers,
recognizing it was Luca time, and you get what you
get coming out of that. I don't feel the least
bit bad for him. No, you always get to pick
most of your career. You don't always get to pick
the end, right, and if you get to pick the end,

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that's very It's a really big thing. Sure, And look
for him, I don't feel bad. I think about for
the fans and the general and the general content and
the sheer moving the needle that he's done for twenty years.
This is not how this kind of icon should go
out right like it should be. Not that it always

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needs to be him, you know, hitting the shot over
you know, over Brian Russell and walking off the court
before he came back again, but it should be something
better than hey, here's Lebron who clearly is not even
the focus of things on this team. And the more
this season goes on where he needs more rest and
he sits, is it likely he's going to try to say, hey,
one more year, some play am I gonna try that? Like,

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if this is how he goes out, it really feels wrong.
Tom Brady didn't go out starting half the games for
the for the Patriots and saying, guy, I was hurt
and I came back. So Aaron Rodgers didn't go out
with the Jets.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
He made you, hey, okay man, no no, no, no, no,
I want one more year. This is not happening my way.
So I get that, you know, as some athletes can
choose little bit better than him. Opting into his contract
this year certainly limited his possibilities, but just the overall
picture of how icons finish, it's usually one of two ways.

(08:51):
I finish on my feet as a star and and
maybe my team doesn't win a championship, but I finish
I I am the guy, or I finish trying to
keep it going when I should have stopped. And you
wind up like Russell Wilson on the sideline with the
Giants or Emmitt Smith with the Cardinals. Whatever you want
to say, Hey.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Russell Wilson got hurt, but he told you he ripped
his handstring. It wasn't performance base.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
But just to see a guy going out on a
team that he stirred the drink on for so long,
like he was the guy, and now suddenly I'm not
the guy, And this is how I wind up getting
pushed out, potentially into retirement. If this is it from
me as each day goes on, it seems like this
is that he keeps talking about how old he is
and everything else. You would think if you were Lebron,

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you would talk now about ice. Feel great. I can
do X, Y and Z if I really wanted to
play again. I got to show teams that I can
do it. I got to show Cleveland that, hey, you're
having a bad year this year, you had a great
year last year. I'm the missing piece. One more year
where everybody can throw flowers at my feet and I
show up here one more ring for the king. Whatever
you want to do, he's not doing it. To do
it on a team where you were the guy and

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now suddenly here comes somebody in and you're not the
guy anymore. It's awkward, man, especially when you're sy. I mean,
this is how it could be ending my career.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
But I go back to when the trade happens last
year and what he knew, what he didn't know, all
of that nonsense, I don't believe for a minute they
did this in undercover of darkness and said, Tanna, here's
a Luca for you, just knowing again his status in
the game, what he's meant to this squad the last
few years. And I know he's polarizing with Laker fans

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take or leave him at times. But it's the idea
of you came back for another year, like Luca was
already entrenched. Right, you had the opportunity to go look
around in the NBA go sign somewhere for eight million
or ten million or whatever that number would be, maybe
thirty whatever the case is. You opted to get every
bit of your your money here, knowing it was going

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to put you in this position.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now, even yesterday, right, he was talking about all the
longevity and history and all this other stuff, because part
of it was they're getting ready to play Wembin Yama.
So it's like the bookends, you're at the end to
your career. He just turned twenty two. All of that,
I would have been highlighting all the plays, like we've
seen him do stat sheets stuff for years. Why would
he not have done it last night? Oh? Yeah, look

(11:11):
what I was able to do to that look what
we were able to pull off. You know, we don't
have Austin. Look at what we're able to do on
occasion like this is where you do the big cell job.
But yeah, I don't know that you end up in
the Willie Mays and the Mets Uni. I don't know
that you end up in Joe Namath with the Rams
or all of those histories you brought up, Emmett Smith,
et cetera. But you made a choice, and now it's

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that difficult run it down and try to fit your
pieces in. Like I think he was trying to convince
himself that's what needs to be done, as much as
he was trying to make a declarative statement to the press.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh no, no, it's his thing.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's like it's almost like someone was holding up a
mirror and saying, yeah, I have to say these things
because this is the way it runs at this point.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
These these tools, I didn't have the right tools. You
see what I have to work with.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But a week ago, I mean a week ago, your
guy JJ Reddick had to talk about how weird and
convoluted and discombobulated it had been since Lebron came back.
Like he put it, he had put it out their
nebulous terms and then came back and doubled down and put.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
His name on. You know, I gotta be honest if
I'm Lebron and this season goes kind of like it
has been, right the Lakers started out. Really, look, the
Lakers are better than anybody expected to show, right, So
that's number one. Now are they an NBA title threat
the way they are constructed? The Lakers know, Look, they
know they want to move on from Lebron James. You know,

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they can't wait till after this year and say these
are the guys we know we need to put around
Luca for the next level of greatness for the Lakers.
And we watched the Lakers play great without Lebron for
a lot of this year, so you know it can happen.
I wonder, right, and I'm throwing the this is this
is this the thing? I wonder as we get closer
to the All Star Break, if the Lakers have something

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open to them that could get them to that point earlier,
could get them to that point at the All Star break,
if they could trade Lebron, If Lebron would say okay,
and you got a nuance it you got a nuance
the hell out of it. We've got a science the
hell out of this. You have the nuance, the hell
out of it. You have to call Cleveland. Hey, for
a last half year, this is not going well. We're not.

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We were at the top of the East. Now we're not.
We're having trouble competing with teams that are injured, with
missing their big stars. We're having trouble with younger teams. Hey,
maybe Lebron can get that half season of this is
my goal going away party, and I could maybe raise
us up and we can compete for one more championship. Maybe.
And if not, he still gets to say goodbye, he

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still gets to say, Hey, in Cleveland, I'm just a
you could do the speech before the final game. I'm
just a kid from Akron. I did everything here, blah
blah blah. I really wonder if as we get closer
to you know, we're still we still got some time
before the All Star break coming up. But I wonder
as time goes on, if if you're not gonna see
this is I can't end like this. I need to

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end some way, and there's some sort of push that
we can make a move, make a deal, that we
can send Lebron. We can get other things we want
to because we get out of that fifty one million
dollars salary for Lebron and and potentially at the deadline.
Lebron accepts the trade, but it would only be to
a team where he could potentially win, and he could
also say goodbye if he doesn't win. There's not many

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teams he's not gonna go to. Suddenly, Hey, trade me
to the Spurs where I can maybe, but no, it's
got to be where where can I go and I
could say goodbye? And the only place is Cleveland, And
it seems like there's a fit because they're at the
bottom of the East and the East is a path
of least resistance to the NBA Finals. Do you have
a contract to move him to Cleveland? Months?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Movement company, get Lebron back and he can.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Look and he can go for a few months to
come back to la and run his media mogul empire.
You can do everything you want. I'm gonna go for
a couple of months, come back. Everything is good. It's
all good, man, I'm gonna go. It's all good.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Did he have a percentage thing he needed to get
to and that's why he needed the fifty one.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Million, the whole ownership thing.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I needed this for the extra percentage to make sure
this goes through.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Frasca exit swallow dome. So just think about that for Lebron,
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So we got big NFL stuff coming up in a
couple of minutes, but a crazy ass NBA trade that
I still think is a headline from the Onion. Is
that still a thing?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know?

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, dude. I get Onion stuff like in my
Facebook feed all the time.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I get a lot of random stuff from my ant,
but I'm not sure if it's real or you know,
from some fugazy site no, which may or may not
be the Onion.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
No, I get stuff like the editor that says, uh, uh,
man had you know, man admits to quite a satisfying holiday,
not spending the time traveling to see his family. You know, like, Okay, no,
that's it. Headlines like that all I put that on
a T shirt, right.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
But you know most of us when you saw the
news earlier today, Okay, Trey Young is likely going to
get traded. We've talked about this for a while. Look
the guys, four time All Star in the Eastern Conference,
one of the best shooters since he came into the league,
was going to get trade was happening right, The era
was ending in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Inevitable, no more tormenting the Knicks as a member of
the Hawks.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, and I'm gonna you know, how much do you
think he called up the next you know, welcome off
the bench, man. Oh god, that guy for you. And
then we saw today the headline Trey Young's preferred destination
was the Washington Wizards. Wait, wait, wait, what the Washington
Wizards I'm like, hang on, so the Wizards win one game,

(18:21):
he checked, let's go make that trade for Trey. I
saw that. I've reread that.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm like, someone like publish a typo, right, they had
something in an auto corrected and they published it anyway.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I was like, no, that that's legit. I mean, that's
his preferred destination are the Wizards? I mean, and the
Wizards have not been over five hundred since twenty eighteen.
That's the last time they were over five hundred, and
the last five years they've not even been close to
five hundred. This is about as off the radar an

(18:59):
NBA team as there is, which is which you think
is crazy. And Atlanta, which is a big market and
you got a lot of stars there. It's a big
star town. Like it doesn't sound it doesn't seem right right.
How is Atlanta not you know, blah blah blah. But
now I'm going to get traded to Washington? Who is really?
I mean, they are the hoff of the NBA if

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Atlanta is, I don't know how Atlanta is so far
off the radar screen being that city watches like where
that's like, what what movie was it where they went
all the way to Neptune was what what?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
What?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
What movie was that? Where all we have to go
forget about going to Mars, like they went all the
way to Neptune to find oh that that that horrible
title with Brad Pitt when he's the he's the that
find Tommy Lee Jones. Right there was like there was
like a car chase on the moon, like right, no,
that that's suggesting that to me on one of the

(19:50):
streaming services to the other. Well, you know, if you
click on F one, you must like stuff. I mean,
if you're talking about Atlanta being Mars in the in
the system, like Neptune is where the Wizards are, this
is your preferred destination. I mean, And it's not like
the Wizards are a team that, hey, they get Trey
Young will turn it around. Right, you had the number

(20:12):
one pick in the draft. That okay, you know you're
building and I get that, right, you had that, and
things are all right as far as that goes. But man,
you are sitting here a team that is you know,
routinely the last four years is thirty games under five hundred,
and this is where you want to go, Like, this
is a team that's never gonna get it right, unless
they get lucky and get a number one pick in

(20:33):
the draft and can keep them there for years. This
is your preferred destination. Do you really do you really
care about winning? Do you really want to And that's
a big thing coming off of this. It's not that, oh,
Trey Young will go here, probably get a contract extension,
say get stay and get paid. He could go a
lot of places, right, but you're gonna go to Washington.
And this is the first thing that tells me, Okay,

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he doesn't want to win. He doesn't care about winning,
because you're not saying I want to go there. I
want to go there and turn it around because I
have this really big, deep connection to one and to
I mean, I look at it, and that's the first
I goes, Well, he doesn't care about winning. He doesn't care.
I mean, I really I thought this was an onion story.
He real this is your preferred destiny. Preferred destinations are
Miami and Los Angeles and Chicago. And it's not it's

(21:15):
not a team that, hey, we routinely finish at the
bottom of the pack in the Eastern Conference. Is he
a big political guy? I don't know. Senator Trey Young
had this to say following his four for twenty five
performance floor but legitimately preferred destination ten and twenty six.
You're on a team that's three games under. You got

(21:35):
a couple of nice young pieces in that in that space.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
The other is, I mean what he gets dealt for
role player in a thirty four year old CJ.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
McCollum. Yeah, I mean, like, what are we doing here? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
But wanting to go be a wizard and he wants
to wear the jersey that Michael Jordan wants. Like I'm
trying to find any answer. Does he vacation off off
season with a bunch of guys that are already wizards.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't know. He wants to wear that wizard's jersey.
So in the off season then he can go on
that Netflix card show and say that member Billy show
will say, hey, I got this jersey. You know, Jordan
wore it, he signed it for me. I wore What
can I get for it?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean we were just joking down the fact that
there was big dues in the hobby today that the
Upper Deck Company signed a deal to make Harry Potter cards.
So technically there's some wizards involved, but wouldn't you come
down to southern California if you want to do that?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
All right, Well, first of all, are the cards going
to be like the moving cards? I want to stay
working to one of those inserts that I can't expect
the headmaster to hang around all the time in that picture.
I don't know that'll disappear the same way. But we'll
see what they can do. But I'm like, I mean
that that's your preferred because you think of Trey Young
and I think of the guy when he came out
of college, right, I thought, Okay, is he small? Yeah?

(22:51):
What's his ceiling? If he becomes a great sixth man
off the bench, instant offense because that was his game,
you know, uh in college. If he's that that kind player, hey,
that's a that's a great draft pick, right, and still
take him early because if he's that instant offense guy
coming in second unit, that's awesome. He's even been even
better than that. Now he's a volume guy. He needs

(23:11):
the ball, he needs a lot of shots. But at
this point is crift of being around seven eight years Yeah,
there's lots of teams you would think in theory would say, hey,
we don't have to give up a lot for him.
I would love to have him come in and come
off the bench at this point. Orbit but clearly you
see the value out there. Like, whatever you think about

(23:33):
your players on your team, the league always tells you
what the true value of them is, right, Like I
thought about this, Like when when when the Mets traded
Jeff McNeil over the winter, the winner break and Mets
fans are going crazy because we're like, oh, we lost Alonzo,
he lost Dad, we lost Jeff McNeil was a bad
It's batting champion four and a half year as a guy.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right, But here's the thing is like, Okay, yeah, understand
that the value of Jeff McNeil was a seventeen year
old pitcher from the A's. That's the value the Mets
would have gotten more from if they could. But the
league is telling you this is how we value Jeff McNeil.
So you would think that Trey Young would be a guy, Hey,
there'd be lots of it. We'd love to get instant offense.
We'd love to get a guy that can put up

(24:13):
seventeen eighteen off the bench, whatever it's going to be,
because really, to fit him into your system. That's kind
of where he would have to be, where you come
off the bench and do his own thing. Then you
can try to see as time goes on, if it's
easyough to slip into the starting lineup competit, you know,
a team competing for a championship. But like you would
think that he would be out there and I don't
care if his preferred destination was that there's a team
like the Warriors or the Spurs or the Thunder or

(24:36):
whoever else is like, hey, no, no, no, we need
that guy. We'll give you a little bit more than CJ.
McCollum and a role player, right, Like, I mean that
you would think that could have happened and a forget
about that, let's go here. But that didn't happen, and
you found out the Wizards of his preferred destination. Of course,
the Hawks saying, oh, fin, I don't have to worry
about trading any place where you're gonna come back and
burn us. So yeah, go ahead, we'll trade you lower
in the standings. So that, again, that really really surprised.

(24:59):
I'm still in shock with the fact that this is
where he goes and this is this is the team
he wanted to get traded. I don't know what's a
bigger shock that he actually got traded to the Wizards,
or that he actually wanted to go to the Wizards. Yeah,
he's missed a ton of time.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
He's only played in ten games on the year the
last four years, hasn't shot better than forty three percent
to your point on the volume, to where in the
vernacular he would be called a chucker at this point
that you get to a decent scoring average only by volume,
kind of like you're making change in that old SNL skit.

(25:33):
We can give you five five ten dollars bills and
twenty a bunch of Nichols, you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
It is just bizarre.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
And he's not the guy a couple of years ago, right,
average twenty eight a game. It's a long way since then.
You know, you're talking about Jeff McNeil and players like that.
Trey Young's not that guy anymore. He's missed five games
because of a thigh contusion.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Right, which is why, Hey, you come in and be
that guy, right, I mean he want to get paid
again eventually, right, you want to get paid again. Like
that's that's where I saw his his president Nowegy where
I saw him back and he you know, coming out
of college. But now that this is kind of where
you are, there's lots of teams say we we could
use a guy because all you're doing when you're coming
off the bench playing shooting guard, okay, you get shoot,

(26:19):
go out there. You know you're playing However many minutes
a night, instant offense. You're up against a team second unit.
Go do your thing man. You're a bleeping four time
All Star. You're still in your twenties. Go do your thing, man,
Go do your thing man. Let him say it, let
him cook a little bit, like that's what that's what
I should see for. I mean, this is a guy
that was such a big star when he came in.
He was a star for a long time. We thought

(26:40):
he was going to be the next great player to
raise the the Atlanta Hawks up right, because it's been
a long time since Doc Rivers and Dominique Wilkins were
playing there, right, John concact been a long time for
that year. Uh, But and it never happened, which was
kind of a shock. Like so many things with his
career have been shocking along the way. And and and
this is really the biggest part of it.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, this is kind of a big deal. I also
shows you, as you said, the marketplace expiring contract. You're
not gonna give up any discernible assets for a guy
who's been on a four year decline, missed a ton
of time due to injury, and is looking for that
next big deal. So yeah, unless you are replete with
draft picks to just say okay, here's a bunch of

(27:21):
stuff and one veteran like a CJ. McCollum with a
big salary to make it work, you're gonna be limited
in those options and you move forward. But yeah, just
a head scratcher as you go through one of those.
All right, here's the dump. You're happy and you get
out of here, your preferred destination Washington, Why cause you
go take over like there's nobody gonna impose you.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be easy for me to be
the star here. I like being the guy that takes
all the shots and no one questioning me, and you know,
feeling like you're lucky to have me, and and well
that's where I want to go. Be that, that's where
I want to go. Do that, be there, go live
in Uh anonymity. There you go. I want to I
want I want pressure winning. I don't like that. I
don't like any of that stuff. I want to just
go where I could just play basketball a car in

(28:06):
New York City anymore and jump around? But how much
do you want to? And I'm just I'm just thinking,
how much do you think he pursued to an extent? Hey,
the Knicks don't want me the next I really like
playing there, I really That's like the only time anybody
pays attention to anymore is when they play in Madison Square.
Clearly playing an MSG revs Him up would be okay,

(28:29):
and Trey again coming off the bench, I'd be okay
with bringing in Trey Young for that. He loved anybody
that at MSG.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Go ahead, man, Yeah, but with your that forty six
million whatever is left of it tag at this point,
you'd have to give up several key role players and
bench players. Yeah, but it's okay, okay, see the sarcasm dripping.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, you have to give that up. WHOA, I'm not
giving up a championship. No, no, no, no, Portray Young, No,
not giving up a championship for that. No, we already won.
We want to say again, I don't know what We're
still playing basketball, but we are, so I have to
humor everybody that's watching because we already won the champions
Someone yelled run it back, and here we are. It's
all right, exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen dove

(29:10):
just that everything seems weird with this Trey Young situation.
Time how to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports with a guy who one time in
college took more shots in a game than Trey ychs.
Really it's Martin Weiss.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
The game was that skeeeps the bar on South University
in Antarvy, Okay, that was the game.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It was Papa shot. Sure, he took sixty shots in
a minute. You took seventy five. You talk about the
Trey Younge situation. It feels weird. Looking at the NBA
slate right now, this feels weird. It's overtime, one minute
and five seconds left in the game, and the Oklahoma
City Thunder and the Utah Jazz and a dogfight one's
come two T one nineteen shake Gilbis, The hell has

(29:48):
happened to Oklahoma City?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Man?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
What has happened to them? I don't want vacation. Suddenly
they can't win.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
They what happened to you went on vacation? They seem
like they went on vacation looking like you know a team.
J HAZs have four road wins ever this season.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Since they went to the finals in ninety six and
lost to the Bulls, they have four red wins.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
Lloyd Market has just put in another bucket ched Holgrin
with the fouls, so now it's one, twenty one to one,
twenty two to one, twenty one with forty five seconds
left in overtime. Four minutes left in this first half
for the Spurs and lakersan Antonio with a forty three
to thirty nine lead. Luka doncis just three assists away
from my first half double double twenty points, seven assists

(30:29):
so far. Eleven minutes left in the second quarter the
Bucks and the Warriors, Milwaukee leads thirty three to thirty one.
Steph had ten first quarter points and with one minute
twenty seconds left in the first quarter of the Rockets
and Blazers, Portland leads twenty one to twenty sorry, twenty
two to twenty one. Danny Avjo with ten points, Kevin
Durant also with ten other notable games. The Pistons beat

(30:51):
the Bucks. I'm sorry Bulls. Pistons beat the Bulls, won
eight to ninety three. Vucevic with a twenty points sixteen
rebound night. Isaiah Stewart career I had thirty one. The
seventy six ers beat the Wizards one thirty one to
one ten. Joel Embiid with twenty eight point seven rebounds.
Don't worry, Washington helps on the way. Trey Young again
traded to Washington for CJ McCollum and Corey Kispert.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Atlanta was in action today.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Trey Young said goodbye to all his teammates as the
Hawks beat the Pelicans won seventeen to one hundred. Rechochet
with twenty five points in a rebounds Nuggets beat the
Celtics one, fourteen to one ten. Jamal Murray twenty two points,
seventeen assists. The Buccaneers head coach Ty Bowles said he
met with ownership Wednesday afternoon. Expects to coach the team
in twenty twenty six. Trent Williams, Ricky Pearsall were among

(31:37):
those who missed practiced for the forty nine ers on Wednesday,
Shanahan not sure if Williams will practice Thursday. Lane Johnson
did practice for the Eagles that game forty nine is
Eagles obviously coming up this weekend. Bears defensive back c J.
Gardner Johnson did not clear concussion protocol miss the second
straight practice. Ravens their open head coaching position, requesting interviews

(31:58):
with the Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, Seahawks offensive coordinator
Clinton kobiak Alat member quarterback Ty Simpson and defensive back
for Ohio State Caleb Downs both announced they're leaving college
early to declare for the NFL Draft. And uh, where
are we? Oh, the Chiefs fire the wide receiver coach
Connor Embry so that I'm sure we'll fix.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
All the offensive issues. Yes, it's still probably all Eric
the enemy's fault one. Thanks so much, Martin. You know
the video is hilarious of of uh that's going around
on social media now of when Trey Young found out
he was traded during the game immediately because he wasn't
playing tonight, just turned and walked off, just walked off,
just walk by. No, goodbye, hey man, it was great city.

(32:42):
I'm gonna go, gonna go bye. Bye. Well, it's not
about me anymore. Walking away. I'm walking run. He just turned.
It's a it's almost like seeing him. It's almost like
someone like when you're in line at school and you're
on a field trip and the teacher calls him, say Trey,
come back. Oh sorry, just turn around, walk back. It's it.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
He he's out. He got his preferred destination. He's a
Washington wizard. He's a wizard.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean, this video is just amazing.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well but I mean, you're so choked up over over
a guy who's a four time All Star and was
one of the great shooters for a minute. Gave you
some heartburn as a Knicks fan. He'll have to do
that as a member of Yeah whatever, though, whiz now
a few movies to him, Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least
Atlanta had hope, dude. Now they have Resuchae.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Exit out bout a Fresca exit swollen Dome. Coming up
next after big NFL news today, it is very easy
to tell you which college football team this year was
easily the most disappointing. That's next right here, Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at

(33:55):
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio Jason
Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon. We got
a big football debate coming up in about ten minutes.
But look, the last couple of days has been owned
in the news cycle of coaches getting fired, who could

(34:17):
be getting hired, players hitting the transfer portal, players declaring
for the NFL Draft, and a big double barrel of
news today tells you exactly who the most disappointing team
in college football is this year. And it's not even close. Jets.
It was college football. The Jets would disappoint in college football.

(34:38):
They would I'd say three and fourteen, maybe in a
Power five schedule, Yeah, five and six, yeah, I played it.
Maybe Bowl eligible, they played maybe the go I played
it on the computer.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
They were the last in when a couple of teams
didn't want to play at a ball, so they got
hit in five and six.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
If they're playing in a lesser if they're not playing
one of the Power for conferences, maybe eight and four.
Yeah it could be and a dark horse candidate for
that conference championship game. Yeah, what's out? Do you think that? Yeah?
They might have been to fight. Uh you know your guy?
Oh that look, they would have beatn Montana State in
the FCS Championship. Jets would have won that game like

(35:17):
twenty three to fourteen. Day had won by almost double
twenty three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, oh a lot
they would have Well, Breezce Hall would have had a
big day. He would have had a big day running
the football. That would have happened. Uh now, double barrel news.
They were seeing big stars declared for the NFL Draft,
and today Caleb Downs and Carnel Tate from Ohio State
declared for the NFL Draft. Yeah. Caleb Downs, who look

(35:40):
for me? Honestly, he's my first non quarterback that I
take in the draft. He is just I watched this
guy play for a long time. Getting him is like
getting Rod Woodson. I mean that's how That's how Bridge
for Jacks, right. He does it all. There's no flags
for him. Ball skills, tackling skills, intelligence, He is as
perfect as you can get for There's other great players

(36:01):
up there, but Caleb Downs, like me, you are gonna
be getting an all time great safety who can just
plug right in and suddenly he's the captain. He's making
all the big player. You are getting a great, great,
great player. Again outside you need a quarterback. I get
it because that happened. But first guy I would take
outside of quarterbacks is Caleb Downs. Look at you now
you also look at Okay. So now going to the

(36:23):
NFL Draft this year from Ohio State, Downs, Tate, Marvel Reese,
Sunny Styles. These guys are all projected to go in
the top fifteen. Three of them will probably go into Styles,
will probably go a little bit outside the top ten.
But there's gonna be some There's gonna be some some
some needy teams in his position. Oh, that's the beauty

(36:44):
of it is this.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
This is a very defensive Hey, we need to shore
things up defensively. And you look in the middle of
the first round, there's a bunch of teams that were
the the also rans in terms of points allowed. And
if he was jumping in the draft, but he's not,
Jeremiah Smith, that would be five guys in the top fifteen.
You have four players that are being taken the top
fifteen of the NFL Draft, and you lose your first

(37:08):
playoff game, You lose the last two games of the
year coming off a National championship. You have this kind
of talent and you with a buye and you couldn't
win one game, you go home in the College Football Playoff.
There is no team more disappointing this season than Ohio State.
No team more disappointment.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
There's teams that I'm not saying they are the worst
though obviously, look they were great during the regular season,
but this should have been we are waltzing to back
to back championships with this kind of talent, right. I
told you how Michigan blew it a year ago. All
the first round talent they had coming out of the draft,
they blew it because they didn't have a quarterback. They
couldn't get in the portal and get somebody, and they
ruined last year coming off the national Championship where potentially

(37:48):
could have gotten back to the playoff. That was a
big fail. This is worse because you had everything if
you're Ohio State and still this is what I again.
When you see this many guys being taken this high
in the draft, man, you go back and go, wow,
how the blank did we lose? Man? No more disappointing
team than Ohio I just.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Remember all year long, it was a lot of questions
of you know, what is this squad when they're actually
tested and you go through their schedule, not a lot
of big heavyweights because even by time they played Penn
State towards the back end, well that's the end of
the James Franklin run. You got Purdue, Ucla, all these
also rans the win over Michigan, so it became the

(38:27):
all right, they're top of the chart next to Indiana.
But how strong are they? How good are they? And
I use the word strong very particularly because they got
bullied by Miami. Right you're talking about one hundred yard
differential between the rushing yardage and just they got beat
up at the line of scrimmage on both sides. And

(38:47):
that was they were soft, like you have all this
peripheral talent and as you're talking about, you know, quarterback safeties,
there's only so much they can do, right, It's all
about your interior lines.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Those guys were great.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
They didn't it to make plays because they didn't have
to because Miami just played bully ball.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
It is it's a it's any given Saturday. Anything happened.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
He got the bye week, which is really starting to
come under scrutiny for a million other reasons.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
But it's not like Miami came in as this high
powered offensive team and outscored you, or they came in
as this really one of the great defensive teams of
all time and shut you down.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Ohio State one of the great defensives. But we knew it,
like Miami's defensive front was was you know, highly Harris,
this is a really and a Miami team that I like,
I mean like I like them beginning of the season.
We'll preview that game next hour. But like, this was
not a Miami team that came in going oh man,
it's a bad matchup that they do a lot of things. Okay,
this is Ohio State, this is an NFL team, and

(39:46):
they couldn't and they couldn't win. I don't know what's
you say, what's more disappointed Ohio State fans the way
this year ended, losing to Michigan last year.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I don't know. I don't no more disappointing team. You
can't change that.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
You've been talking about how it's liver or die on
both sides of that thing forever.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
This was not on what did you lose? Though? You
got embarrassed because you got run over, right, it's one
thing to lose. It's a close game. It's a tight game.
You watched that game. They weren't in it. They didn't
play well at all. No, it was I am so
embarrassed for Olhouse and No. And I'm sure maybe another
couple guys will sneak into the first round somewhere. Look

(40:22):
even worse for a lot of state. Sure. Coming up next,
we got that big football debate on the way from
the biggest topic the last twenty four hours Fox Fox
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. Wow, listen to you. Late in the third quarter,

(40:48):
Marquee Game of the night in the NBA, Spurs lead
the Lakers by twelve seventy five sixty three. The Lakers,
of course playing tonight without Lebron James, who was basically
he's resting because he's old. It's out. There's no hey,
I got a little bit of a dinga. Hey. Lebron
even said, hey, second night it back to backs. I'm
forty one, you know, not not doing it sitting out

(41:11):
because he is old. Luca's got thirty one for the
Lakers right now, but not enough. As the Spurs are
up by twelve. It has been a big night, although
not for Wemby. Wemby just five points and sixteen minutes
off the Benchazine starts to continues to get his wind
under him as he comes back. Fox and Castle combined

(41:31):
for twenty three. But this has been a spurs. Hey,
we're running eleven guys, you know, playing minutes here in
this game, and we're just gonna continue to out youth
you here on the court. And that's kind of way
this game's been going.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Make you run, and where you have your defensive lapses,
we will take advantage. They had some really cool plush
Wenby's that they just showed for sale in the team shop.
The I'm really proud of you though. You're showing growth
here in twenty twenty six already, okay, because you didn't
try to jam in the Marquee Game of the night
dot dot dot the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
With a win over the Cliff. Oh well, I feel
about you, which I really come on?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Man?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
On what six of eight or seven of eight? Come on?
When the champs win a game, it's expected the Knicks
or the chest Again. I watched I watched them with
T shirts and hats and confetti. Then when the champs
win at home. Okay, it happened. All right.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I'm really working to up my shoulder and arm strength
so I can undertaker choke slam you when you reference
the Emirates Cup Championship, just a championship.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Now, it's just a chance. It went from Emirates Cup
to E Cup. Now, it's just the championship, the champs.
I saw again. We all watched it happen that night.
We watched watch that. We watch guys, Honey, we saw it. No,
everybody watched it. Nobody was there. Everybody watch it on TV. Yeah, okay,

(43:01):
all right, you're an e less celebrity. You want to come. Hey,
We're gonna make sure the lights are really low and
you can only really see you sitting in the first
three rows of the arena FLCE.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I felt like I was watching the WWE during COVID
when they were they were in the empty arena.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Look, I was just black. Yeah yeah, And there's the
rain now. Two incredible things that Jerry Jones said today
at the end of season Dallas Cowboys press conference. A
couple of that just just a man, one more amazing
than the other. So and the first thing he's gonna say,
hearkens back to what we said a day ago, is

(43:39):
that you know, at this point, the only way things
change with the Cowboys is if someone challenges Jerry Jones
and the decisions that he makes, because clearly they never
rebounded from the Micah Parsons decision. He played poker, he lost,
he didn't get the deal done, which tells me that
Jerry Jones losing his fastball a little bit uh. And
they never got back from that, right. They tried to

(44:03):
get a defense together with tape and super glue, and
they were the worst defense in the NFL the first
eight weeks, but their offense was really really good. So
at the deadline, we make a move for a play.
We trade away a couple of draft picks, but that's
okay because we got a couple of draft picks that
we in trading away Micah Parsons. So we brought in
a guy of defensive line, Quinnin Williams is pretty good.

(44:23):
And what happened the Cowboys fell short. So all of
this smoke and mirrors at all that's moving around, what
did the Cowboys do? They traded a big, a great
player for a guy who's really good but not quite
that player, they traded a couple of draft picks, They
got a couple of draft picks and ended up where
they began, out of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, I still want more details of that back and forth.
I think there's still a lot of noise between Moogileta
and the agency and Jerry Jones. Remember he was the
power broker that got Deshaun Watson his money. So I
know a lot of owners still have angst and animals damp.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Is it weird?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I might be growing as well? Is that I felt
bad at least a little bit for Eberflus in this situation.
Oh yeah, you spend that off season building a defense.
All right, this is how we're gonna be able to
free him up and work this to where and then ah,
he's gone.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
You, as a Bear fan, would only felt bad for
Eberflus because you're the number two seed. If you had
a bad year, you would say, good, my team sucks.
I'm glad he got. I think there's something too easy yet,
person when you're the number two seat and go, yes,
I've moved on from you. Yes, I'm sorry, I moved
I moved on. I moved on. I don't love you anymore.
It's like when you run into your ex at the
bar and you're with your new girlfriend who is who

(45:34):
is great and she's bad, Like, yes, sorry, I moved on.
But if you run into your exit a bar you're
both single, it's like, yeah, I'm single, I'm glad you're
singling miserable? Yeah yeah, what's next time karaoke? Yeah yeah, yeah,
what to So this is why, as we said last night,
Dak Prescott's the guy that's got to stand up and
challenge Jerry Jones and the moves he makes. Right, he's

(45:57):
gotta be the one. He's the quarterback, he's got the cachet.
Nobody else is doing it. Brian Schottenheimer's not doing it.
Steven Jones doesn't do it. Nobody is challenging these ridiculous
decisions at Jerry Jones makes not that it's definitely gonna change,
but it couldn't hurt and it might be the only
thing that gives Jerry Jones some checks and balances. And
I mean Dak Prescott being vocal in the summer saying

(46:19):
we have to get Micah Parson. Jerry's got to sign
Michah part. I don't care what happens. He's got to
do it whatever it is, because he's a great leader.
All his teammates talk about a great leader Dak Prescott is,
and it's awesome. You read about things he does off
the page and it's really impressive. But now he needs
to be that vocal. I gotta take care of my
team and challenge Jerry Jones. We said this last night,

(46:40):
and now the first SoundBite you're gonna hear from Jerry
Jones is gonna tell you exactly why Dak Prescott needs
to stand up and say something. Because well, when you
hear Jerry give his answer about Brian Schottenheimer and who
he might hire his defensive coordinator, you kind of get
what I'm talking about. Boy shot down and we get
to hire his own coordinator.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Trump just said it running seriously.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Shot he had everything to do with Hir and Madde
before this last time, and that's not done.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
I'm done.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
As they had no way in the world he's here.
If shot he didn't want him here, it's okay. Let
me be real clear about that, and he can tell
you in his own words, there no way in the
world if Steven didn't want him here.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
But I particularly had a party when we got him.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
God. So just just in case, here's the thing. Venezuela
is the Cowboys. I'm Trump and I'm running Venezuela like
I made. I might have some other people. You know,
steven could wind up being I don't know, Stevens could
be Marco Rubio and he's gonna run other things we haven't.
But but I'm running. Like here's Jerry Jones saying, Okay,

(47:52):
I'm running things. Will shot he get to pick his
own defensive coordinator. No, I am not letting my head
coach do it because I'm running things. I'm running things.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I mean, the only time you could use that line
it begin to laugh because like, wow, that diffusing left field.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
You did not see that coming through the door. And
it kind of and it kind of feels like, oh okay, like,
did did it take a minute to think of the
country that Trump I'm running? Uh, Venezuela. He wanted to
make sure real quick that he could get away with it.
Oh yeah, that's probably what the pause was. Are people
gonna laugh read the room?

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
And he's not wrong. By the way, Look, anybody who
doesn't laugh does not get a pass to come cover
the Dallas Cowboys. Remember he is an oil guy, Jason, Yeah, no,
look I might be running Jerry Jones running Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Uh so, uh well, he talked about those oil remember
that a couple of weeks ago. He was talking about
the bast fields and whatever else. You off the plane
waves everybody. I'm here right, and I brought Romo with me,
so he's gonna help. Uh but like this, this tells
you I'm running things well. Brian Schottenheimer, NFL head coach
who knows a thing or two about what he needs

(49:05):
defensive coordinator. No, I'm running things me, the guy that
basically discovered after I had to trade Michaeh.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Parsons. I'm gonna say, you need to stop the run.
I read it in a book. Yeah, you can't just
stop the pass in the NFL. Now, apparently I didn't
know this, but the quarterback and maybe you've got to
put more plays like this in the playbook. Quarterbacks allowed
to get the ball and not have to throw it.
But he can just hand it to a guy next
to him. Now, we got to line him up close
enough where he can hand him the football. I don't

(49:35):
know if you want to, you know you want to
risk having to pitch the football out or something like that,
Like that's a I don't know that that could be
a turnover waiting to happen. But you could just hand
the football to a guy, right, So I just hand
it to so he could just take it run. He
doesn't have to throw the ball. He coul drive. I
didn't know this, right, we sometimes he guy runs himself
do that about this? This is just something I just
found out. I mean, like, this is this is how

(49:56):
you're dealing with Jerry Jones and the decisions that he makes.
This is why you need pushback because what is what
did Brian Schottenheimer do? He just laughed when Jerry Jones
said that, right, Like, how embarrassed did you feel for
Brian Schottenheimer? Seen the going here's a head coach who
was getting his knee getting cut off. But we watched
those guys year but no, but having to sit next

(50:16):
to Jerry Jones while he is saying it. He's got
to sit there and now Jones grub I'm running things.
Ha ha ha ha. Well, well it's one of thirty two.
This is one of thirty two. Jot's all Schottenheimer's It's
one of thirty two and one third two, Like, that's
embarrassing for Brian Schottenheim. Somebody's got it. If nobody stands
up to Jerry Jones, it's just gonna continue this cycle
that the Cowboys have been.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, I mean one of the failures is the fact
that Troy Aikman's going to work with Miami as opposed
to being in that building as well. Right, Like, you've
got a bunch of those ex players him in particular,
that should have been on some advisory panel. But I
think Schottenheimer is also looking He's the only one of
the thirty two that wanted to give me a shot,
so I can only do so much. And maybe on

(50:59):
some level he thought it was kind of funny until
it got to the no. I called the shots and
endgame of it all. And if you're shot in army,
you recognize what you bought into. You've watched this as
you've been around the league since you were a baby,
You've watched Jerry Jones at work, and look, to a
large degree, and this is where in his madness, I

(51:21):
defend it. They're still more successful than virtually every other
organization in this century. Now, in this last forty years.
I'm because even with ten and eleven win seasons, everybody
was crying that John Harbaugh got fired over his ten
or eleven win seasons.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Jerry's had a bunch of them, but it wasn't good enough.
Which is it? Well, okay, I'm glad you brought up
success because Jerry Jones talked about success. He brought up
success because succession. He talked about what he wants to
he wants to retire. He actually said, I want to retire. Now,
what does Jerry Jones want to do before he retires? Well,

(51:57):
that's this.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
My goal in live is to retire as the owner
that won the most Super Bowls.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
That's my goal.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
To be retired in the NFL as the owner that
won the most super Bowls.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
We've got three.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
How many more would I have to go as a
single owner. Bob's got him many six.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
So I've got it. I've got work to do, got
work to do. I got work to do. But at
least I'm up to the second rung in the ladder.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
And just just you know, so we know here, I
found out we had won the super Bowl in thirty years.
So the three came really really early, and We're just
not really a druct don't call it a drought. I
don't call it that. But you know three, I just
got four more to go, even though I haven't won
thirty years. Forget about getting one. I want to get
four before I retire. When you get retire, Jerry, when

(52:48):
I'm one hundred and seventeen years old, I'm gonna retire,
and I'm an retire as owner of the Cowboy. Steven's
gonna run things and and then and then you're you're
gonna see I'm gonna try to find a new body
to get into and come back of like that Freaky
Friday with the low Hand girl and uh uh and
then the one from the from the from the movie
where she won where she was getting chased by the
by the guy in the mask all the time. Uh,

(53:10):
the everything, everywhere, everything, everything at once. And then the
Meyers kid comes in and she shoots him in the
eyes and the second and uh a good shot by her.
Absolutely Then then and then Loomis turns a gas on
and uh, you know, the things kind of blow up
at the hospital. But you get what I'm saying, This
is what I'm looking at. You got Louis in. That's

(53:30):
how deep we go here. You got Louis forget about
winning one. Yeah, I want to win four.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I dig that though, But he's talking about you know
he Look, he's read all the things about it, life expected,
seeing how much longer he's got. Now the only way
this really would in better. You know why, shot, he's
not gonna get to call it. Look he's walking through
that door, look at him. And then some music starts
playing and it's shitmy Johnson.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
We're getting the bad back.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I mean, it's I understand Jerry has great to have goals,
but but at some point you would think, even in
the most private heart of hearts, he has a look
in the mirror going we won three when I had
Jimmy Johnson and we had great players, and now we
can't even get back. We can't even get back there,
I mean getting back to the NFC Championship game. The

(54:16):
couple of times we did it was really difficult enough.
And now I'm sitting here saying I want to win four.
More like if you're a cowboy, for you look a dude,
you know you never want to make it seem more
like you don't know what you're doing. But like when
I talked last year that Jerry Jones when you couldn't
get the Micah Parsons deal done, maybe this is a
guy that's losing his fastball because he always got the

(54:36):
deals done no matter what it went through. But this
is a new player that clearly he didn't know as
well and didn't get a deal done with the best
defensive player in the NFL. When I hear him say
something like I want to win four more Super Bowls,
I'm like, does he think that sounds that sounds Hey,
he's riling up the fan base and firing up where
the fan base going. Dude, this guy lives on mars Man.
We can't even get past one winning the playoffs. We

(54:58):
can't even get to a point where we can keep
our players. He's talking about four show like, worry about
the task in front of you before you're worrying about
a four super Bowls. Oh okay, great.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Now to take the Micah Parsons part of it for
a second, because some of this transpired over over our
break from the show as the holiday holiday holidays rolled on.
Welcome back to work wherever you are, however you're listening.
That's a guy that really seems sad. He's not a
Dallas Cowboy. So how much is the relationship with the

(55:29):
advice he was getting in terms of prossing Do you
think he's really happy about on the back end of this, right,
because I'm sure Jerry made him a pretty good offer. Right,
he just wanted a little bit more, and then it
became a feeling disrespected and not loved and whatever, and
it happens. But for Jerry Jones, I'm gonna go counter

(55:49):
to you here of the you know what, dream big.
If he just says I want to ride this out
and see what we can do.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
There's something there. Send it more. How many's Bob got
eight more, eight more, nine ten, ten more winning next
ten super Bowl? I saw in the chat GPT Cowboys
were skinned supposed to win five more Super Bowls by
the year twenty one forty five. According to this, we're
winning in twenty eight. I'll still be owning the team then,
and I can take it. I could take for those

(56:15):
championships over under that that game the Cowboys play that
Super Bowls in Venezuela. Yeah, exit up about a Fresco
exit swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live in the
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trending in the wide world of sports from Martin Whities,
who has the latest on the biggest NBA game of
the night and the Lakers and the Spurs. Since clearly

(56:39):
the Knicks beating the Clippers is the number one house.
You took the words around about Jalen bruns in twenty
six to seven. Yeah, buddy, I mean one twenty three
to one eleven. Nothing else happening in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Oh, that's pretty good though for Jalen Brunson. I would
have expected a little more after he sat on his
ash for the second half.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Uh, speaking of sitting, Trey Young didn't play today because
he's got traded. He's now a member of the Washington Wizards.
The four time All Star was straighted from Atlanta to Washington.
In return, the Wizards will send Atlanta CJ McCollum and
Corey Kispert back. The Hawks won the game today one
seventeen to one hundred. Zach Veciche had twenty five points
and eight rebounds. Also in act his new team, the

(57:21):
Wizards were in action today. They lost their ten to
twenty six on the year, so one thirty one until
one ten was the score of seventy six ers victorious
twenty eight point seven rebounds for Joel Embii.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Pissons beat the Bulls.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
One O eight to ninety three. Isaiah Stewart had a
career high thirty one points.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Three live games.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Right now, the Spurs with a eighty seven to six
seventy six lead over the Lakers. Luka Doncics is thirty
three points, eight rebounds, seven assists. Victor Winbinnal was playing
in this game. He didn't start. Right now, he's got
nine points, four for eleven from the floor.