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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Friday. It's the Bow Baschett Show
with my bass friend and dad Dot Dee Bischett today
Friday and at former bassist hair Metal Greg Bissonette and
at a Bishan Friese. I'm out of Baschett's that quickly,
Mike Harmon, I have petered out of Bischetts.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Just like that. Yeah, you know what I thought. I
had a run though.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Well, the fact that you got into multiple means you
are already one. And you got Greg Bissonette in part
of Ringo Stars All Star Band, so nicely done.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
And Jacqueline Bissett.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I forgot about Jacqueline, but of course I got to
explained to millennials who Jacqueline Bissett is.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
But okay, there we go. Okay, now I'm out. They've
seen her movies.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
They just Josie Bissitt, Josie Bissitt from Melrose Place. Oh
and Charles in Charge. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
See Okay, maybe we follow each other like on Twitter
or something. Are you really wow, dude?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
If this was the nineties and I was single, I
would I would completely overcome your your Twitter accounts so
I could meet her.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
There you go. But it's not the nineties, and and
I'm married, and so you know, well, it's a swinging
Friday night. I mean, that's what it is. We got,
We got both. Today.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I had to send multiple takes of a video because
I kept cursing too much excited utterances, and Elijah's like, damn,
that's too far.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, that's a bridge too far, even for you, Mike Carmen.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So when I woke when I woke up today, right,
I always know when something big happens with one of
my teams because I wake up because I always turned
my phone off because so many people, my family just
you know, don't understand that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Oh yes, I forgot. I'm three hours ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I'm getting on a group family text at six
in the morning because so I always turned my phone off,
so I turned my phone on and it's I'm going, oh,
this is everybody who woke up this morning and found
out that Kyle Tucker is a Dodger, because that happened
late last night, right like right when we went on
the air ten o'clock on the East coast. For a
lot of my family, you know, they're in bed by then,
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so they're just finding out. And here come the ha
ha has And all I see from the first couple
of as you know, your text go and you just
see him as they they they as they as they
file in, I just see Bo Bo, and I go,
we got Bobaschett, Like right away, I knew It's like
all I needed to see was his name. His first day,
I said, we got Bobashett or Bo Jackson's coming out
of retirement to play for the Mets. One of those
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two that we got bobaschev And my hands are cramping
and they're and they're shaking as I'm typing into sea.
And when I saw the deal, I sat back and
I said, we did better off the day after missing
out on Kyle Tucker than the Dodgers did getting Kyle Tucker,
and I thought, wow, now that's something that doesn't really happen.
We just kind of looked into that because I'll tell
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you what you tell any MLB team owner, fan, salary,
luxury taxologist, whatever it is, say, Okay, what's the contract
and player you'd rather have? Kyle Tucker who's terrific player right,
multiple All Star but didn't have a great year last year.
Gotta make sure he's healthy. Do you want Kyle Tucker
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for that four years and sixty million a year because
it's going to cut into luxury tax and whatever changes
are coming with Major League Baseball? You know Rob Manford's
going to have to do something. The lockout is coming.
Or would you rather have Boba shed for three years
and one hundred million? Terrific player right? Really down year
two years ago, great year last year, but you got
him for three years and just over one hundred with
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a couple of opt outs, Like, Okay, if it works, great,
If it doesn't, everybody moves on. You tell me which
contract everybody would rather have. I'm like the Mets failed
and won. It was like pulling the Homer Simpson to
succeed despite yourself.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Mike Carman well in the end the Tucker contract. After
two years, everybody can decide whether they like the world
or not. Right, and if Tucker's the guy that he
thinks he is, then great. Same thing with bo Bashett,
the fact that it's a three year deal. Look, I'll
always take the shortstop. Yeah I wish he hit from
the left side, but that's okay. But I'll always take
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the shortstop over even a gold glove corner outfielder or
an eventual DH which Bishett certainly has done his time
there as well. But all that in in three years,
it resets. Everybody wins in this scenario because of the
short term deal. He gets paid pretty good, top of
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top of market money and he's only entering what twenty eight,
so you're looking at your power prime and all of
that fun stuff proof of concept. Now he goes to
New York, will team with Soto, and you aren't getting
all excited about the heart of your lineup reconstituted and
loaded for bear. Remember all the money that comes on
and off books for everybody that got all upset about
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Kyle Tucker a night ago. But in three years you'all
reset and decide, hey, do we want to re up?
I mean a lot of folks say that they should
do this with the relationships. Contracts are usually three to
four years. I mean all of these things, let's reevaluate
things and see where we're at.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, I mean, look, you have so much flexibility. Look,
it's flexibility that's built into this one. Maybe you get
it with Kyle Tucker, maybe you don't. It depends if
the guy stinks he's not out the out of sixty million.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He's staying, you're stuck like this. This is a much
better contracts.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I remember talking last night in the final hour of
the show where I said my big fear now for
teams as what I mean, not just the Mets but
other teams, is that now that Kyle Tucker is off
the board and off the board of the Dodgers, teams
are gonna panic. They're gonna panic and overpay. And we
said Boba Schett and for Cody Bellinger and other players,
and they're gonna overpay and it's gonna be really bad.
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I was stunned when I saw, Okay, what's the deal?
Three years and just over one hundred million in it?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Forty two. Wow, that's that's the deal. That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's incredible, and not only that we took him away
from the Phillies, who it's like, wow, I mean the
Phillies really, I this is this has been just a
downward spiral for them the last last few months, from
the end of the season where they couldn't win again.
And Bryce Harper is being called just a good player
by his GM and they're losing players, They're losing relievers
and starting pitchers. And now the guy they had earmark
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to come in for seven years and two hundred something
million dollars is going to the Mets like this is
the I mean, I don't I don't get this kind
of luck, which means now something really bad is going.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
To happen to the Jets, and and R. L.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Reese is going to decide, Hey, I'm going back to
school because I don't want to go to the Jets either.
At number two, like the Knicks, we're gonna find out.
Jalen Brunson is taking some time away to go on
a darkness retreat because he heard it was really good.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And I'm gonna rehab my ankle.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Then, I mean, I know that this is too much
luck for something good, so I know I'm gonna have
to pay somewhere.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Else well, but at Jalen Brunson takes some time away.
As long as he's back by the middle of April,
you're fine, because they're not gonna fill out of the
ten seed. The Eastern Conference stinks at the back end,
those those seemings, you know, no matter what they do,
they're not they can't get out of.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Their own way.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I mean they're trying as best they can, and it's
just futility left and right. I mean, look at the
standings as we as we sit here today. I mean,
your knicks can fall and the Pacers have ten wins,
the Wizards have ten wins, Charlotte got its fifteenth ah,
and then you got the Bucks and whatever it becomes
of the Bucks with their seventeen wins, just outside all
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of it.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
No, but like I.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Saw this come down and immediately just had to grumble, going,
we didn't even get twenty four hours of mocking you
before you walked in. Now, it would be nice if
Baschett maybe drew an extra walk now and again and
it was more active on the base paths. I mean,
those are things that we can all wish and hope for.
Those are where you get a little better off from
Kyle Tucker. But when you talk about the value of
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a three year deal for a middle infielder with the
all Star pedigree, that you got four straight MVP votes
went one top five finish for him. So you've got
a guy who's really coming into his own And for
Steve Cohen, he was able to put out his own
white puff of smoke.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah. And you know the funny thing is, you want
to really good. I almost gonna call you with this
story today, but I decided to wait to tell you now.
So I so I get up, and I'm starting my
day and I'm going to the store to get to
get coffee. Right, So I'm driving, I got my METS
hat on and listen to music. I'm Blair, and I'm excited.
I'm stoked. I'm like, yeah, I feel like the sheriff, right,
I'm walking around.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I get out of my way.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You guys have paid two hundred and forty million dollars
a Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
We got a guy just as good for half price. Yeah, yeah,
get out of my way.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So I go in to get coffee, and I got
my METS hat on and and and the guy comes
up and says, oh, Mets fan.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I said yeah, And he goes, oh, don't see a
lot of those hats around here. And I said, you know,
I said, give me a break. I said, you know, what,
are you a big Dodger fan? Like I was just
kind of I go, what are you a Dodge fan?
He goes, no, I'm actually a white Sox fan. I said, oh,
my best friend is a white Sox fan. He goes
really go yeah, he's as miserable as you are.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And the guy said, but we got that big slugger
from Japan. I said sure, yeah, and you got the
number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He goes yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I said, but your team stinks. You have nothing to
worry about. You're gonna be bad for a long time.
The guy goes, you know, I'm making you your coffee, right.
I said, no, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Could end man fun.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But I tipped him very well, and I tipped him
before I got the coffee, so he knew about the coffee.
When he knew that he was getting a good tip
before he made.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Me stop speaking. No, no, no, he didn't. I watch him
make it the whole time. Right, did you watch all
the time.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Did he put like a thumbs a thumb in there,
and then you had to decide whether it was thumbs
up or thumbs down depending on how you spun the
coffee cup around.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I kind of feel like this, if you're gonna put
your thumb in a piping hot cup of coffee, I
I kind of.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I didn't mean, actually, I appreciate that, you know, Folmart Man,
folmart with the thumb and then he turns it to
you like it's like it's a thumbs down, not like
you have a picture of you know, some some cartoon
creature or something in there.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
But hey, can you put mister Metton there? Can you
make mister met because do you have that to make
that happen?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Marista is all over the place, no doubt about it.
But yeah, Bashett sixty three extra base hits here, sixteenth
MVP voting all of that off is what three eleven
batting average two ninety four for his career. So that's
one of those big wins to all of this. But yeah,
we didn't even get twenty four hours of you trying
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to rationalize why everything was okay and convincing yourself and
trying to convince the world that it was because look,
I'd read off some of the Tucker's stuff and you
got some big finishes right these last couple of years
between his run in Houston to the year in Chicago,
even though the second half was injury plagued and a
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bit abysmal, but you get the w you because they
rallied nicely. They did not fold, and they had something
else behind door number two.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
There was no folding. There was no folding left. Last night,
I was like, well, what are you gonna do? The Dodgers,
just the the evil Empire, continue to add and now
they have like what two billion dollars of salary that
is due to you know, their entire team, Like how
are you gonna pay it off? And you know, fans
across the country are all upset, and I'm going, what
are you gonna do? And now I'm like, yeah, Boba Schet,
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I'll see you in the NLCS.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I'll see you this year.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I play had one day, I had a beer, I
took a shower because that's how we do it in
the NBA.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And now I'm ready to go again.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
But that's just it, right, you start going through and
do your debits and credits like you're you're doing an
accounting class. Uh, Clayton Kershaw comes off the books. Other
guys come off the books, and the Dodgers side she
adds some back, and yes, it's it's a very large
number out there. Guess what, they make a lot of revenue.
They've got their own revenue deal that was agreed to.
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That a bunch of owners now mad that they did,
and so that'll get revisited as part of the inevitable
work stoppage or eleventh hour deal that has to happen
to have baseball in twenty twenty seven. But as it
stands shows other teams are ready to go spend some
money because three for one twenty six, while it ain't
what Kyle Tucker got, ain't exactly peanuts. Yeah, but like
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you like to say, it's not my money, you don't, no, no, no,
But but that's I'm speaking to the folks that aren't
you Me Frostburg tight Shirt, Steve Desager and others that
recognize there's a lot of money being transacted and you
know what, Yeah, it is ours when we pay for
parking and for our MLB TV accounts and everything else.
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But in the end, if an owner wants to compete,
you can't be the White Sox. You can't be the
Rockies and these teams that take their one hundred plus
million dollars from the national deals and just say, well,
you know what, we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Put half of it back on the field.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
They're not even putting it in those vending machines like
you love to say so much.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, but look, but here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
All right, we've been talking about this for nine minutes, right,
nine minutes. In the last nine minutes, Steve Cohen has
made one hundred and twenty six million dollars. So it's okay,
in nine minutes at ten at ten o'clock on a
Friday night, he has just made one hundred and twenty
five million. And WAITI let casino opens and send forget
about it man. Then it's gonna be hey, what's your
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salary cap that I know we're gonna try to keep
it under eight hundred million. Uh, you know, we got
a lot of guys coming, we got we've got some
holes to fill. We're gonna try to keep it under
eight hundred million.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Oh okay, great, it's exciting, exciting, Mike, It's exciting Friday
night because you got the CounterPunch, and now we'll see
who else jumps in counter punch my Ace.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
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Speaker 4 (13:55):
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Speaker 3 (13:56):
The Jason Smith Show with My bas friend Mike car
We gave you our picks for this weekend in the NFL?
Does our next guest agree? Disagree? Who are the Jets
taking at number two?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
All of these questions and more.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Answered by longtime NFL insider. He is the author of
eight books, some of them don't have pictures in them,
thirty third Team Pro Football Hall of Very Good voter.
It is longtime friend of the show, Jason Cole, Jay Cole,
what's happening?
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Man to do? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm ready, let's go.
I'm as ready as Don tim Moore is to go
back to Oregon.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You know, I'm glad you bring this up because I
want it, because I want to throw a little bit
of a different take other than he didn't want the
Jets right, because clear Okay, yes, that's low.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
The Jets, right, Yeah, I want to I want to throw.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
This at I want to throw this at you because
this is something that's not been talked about because it's
always been assumed that Okay, Banana Mendoza going number one. Obviously, look,
Heisman Trophy, winner of the year. Yes he's going number one.
But maybe Dante Moore was told we might not take
you at number two. Maybe his evaluation was, we all
think you should go back to school and you might
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be on the board longer than you think for the
NFL Draft this year than coming off at number two
to the Jets. And maybe that's why he's going back
to school.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Oh that's pretty that's quite possible. I doubt the Jets
would have the guts to do that because they're so
badly need a quarterback and they would take the chance.
I would say that overwhelmingly. He probably got a lot
of people saying, and look, let's look at the history
of quarterbacks who don't stay in school and for a
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less than a thousand passes, and you know that one,
and it's a long list of guys who's who are awful,
like Trey Lance, Anthony Richardson, Tyler Murray and he got
to a second contract, so give him credits for that.
Mark Sanchez, if you want a little Jets lore to
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all of this, there's another guy in there that I'm
trying to think of who just was not very good.
But you know, there's a bunch of guys. Now everybody
will point out we'll look at Tom Brady. Well, the
difference with Tom Brady is that he stayed in college
for five years. He just didn't start to play a lot,
but he got a lot of practice time and got
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a lot of preparation while he was at Michigan and
was as ready as he possibly could be from that standpoint.
And Kurt Warner obviously a much different example, but he
went and played in the Arena League and did a
lot of other things. But you gotta throw a lot
of footballs okay, because playing quarterback in the NFL is
not is Yeah, you need athletic ability, but it's as
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much about so or PhD quality learning of the game.
And so I do believe that the Jets easily could
have said, hey, look yeah we might take it number two.
It might happen, but you also might want to look
at this history too. If you really want to max
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out your career, or other people have said, number one,
you don't have a lot of experience, and this is
what happens guys with a lot of experience. And you
could go to the Jets, which is not going to
help you a lot, to get that experience.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Yeah, and the Jets said, we'll see you next year.
Go get some more experience. You'll be ready to win
for us next year.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah. Well, I mean, well, I mean both of these
things can be true. I mean all of it. And
I think the kid made a wise long term decision.
The man walking away from fifty million dollars, like, I
don't know that I could tell my son that, I
could lay it out for him and say and say, hey, look,
this is the pragmatic way. But you're sitting on fifteen
million dollars possibly with number two now. And you can
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also say, hey, look there's a long history of guys
who don't do well, and that type of knock you
way down the board too. There's no guarantee you're going
to go number two. And don't believe somebody today if
they tell you they're you're going number two. But we
can certainly tell you there's a long history of guys
who aren't very good when they don't when they don't
get more throws at the god's level.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Jason Gole with us here, Jason Smith Show with me,
Mike Harmon, j Cole. As we get ready for the
divisional round. We'll get to the coaching karasel in a minute,
but we look at the divisional round Josh Allen playing Superman.
Is is it enough to propel them into the AFC
title game?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
God? I hope so, because I'm not sure I can
watch bone Nicks for football in an af championship game.
I mean, if you're again, if you're not going to
take advantage of this year, like what are you? And
I know that they are are people who are fans
or Buffalo fans who go, yeah, but look at the
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rest of the team around and this night it's like
nobody's got a great team. Don't tell me that this year,
this is the year that you have to grab the
whole thing and take advantage of it, right. And you know,
they survived a scary first round, probably scarier than it
should have been, but a scary first round and they're
going up against the Denver team that, yeah, people talk
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about that defense, but it hasn't been great the last
six weeks, and so there are some serious possibilities. And
their pass rush has essentially evaporated over the second half
of the season. So this is when you got to go.
You've got to go make a bunch of plays because
we know that Sean Payton's going to game it up
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that even with the inconsistency of Bonix, they're going to
put up twenty four to twenty eight points. You're going
to need to probably get to thirty points to win
this game. I think if you're if you're Buffalo, given
you know the sort of tragic mess that your rush defense.
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That ain't good.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
All right, So the other game Saturday, looks like Sam
Donald's going to play. I think we're getting a lot
of gamesmanshipped now to hey, let's let the guys focus
on the game.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Looks like he's going to play.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I got a tough time seeing San Francisco winning this game.
I just don't think they have the horses, and Seattle's
defense was just teeing off on Perty a couple of
weeks ago. I don't know how you fix all of
that having a lesser team than you had when you
lost that game.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Yeah, I tend to agree with that, but that analysi
is pretty strong. But man, if Sam Donald has to
make a play, like because that game that they played
a couple of weeks ago, if he was like, Hey,
Clinton Tubiak, do you want to let Sam Donald do anything?
Speaker 8 (20:55):
No?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
How about this?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
No?
Speaker 6 (21:04):
But Sam could know? But what if Sam don't know? No, no, no,
Sam's not doing anything in this game because he doesn't
need to. Yeah, so they yeah, they can get through
this game without Sam Darnal would have to make any big,
big plays because he didn't have to make any big
plays in the previous game. But yeah, but man, they
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played so scared of their quarterback that you just you're
sitting there wondering, like when is this going to catch
up to them? Well, you know, is it going to
catch up time? And maybe that this is such a
mediocre year in the league, you know, like I'm referenced
earlier with Josh Allen, you know, maybe this is such
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a mediocre year in the league that this is like
the year you get through sort of like when Tampa
Bay one is titled with Brad johnsoner quarterback or when
you know when Baltimore one would trend delfer like the
year was Sony or for even you know, like Philadelphia,
everything in the lined up. And now I think Nick
Foles got really hot and played great football during the playoffs.
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So that's a little bit different scenario if he played
the best football of his entire career during that run.
But you know, there have been a few times in
the history of the league where you get through it
with a media per quarterback, and that's mostly because the
wrestle the league is is down.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Jake Ole, I've thought long and hard of how the
best ask this next question, But I'll be as concise
as I can. Bears Bears.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
Called Iceman cometh if you had it, if you had
Ditka versus an iceman in a snow suit named Ditka,
I would think asman snowsuit Ditka fifty six, get twenty one.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Yeah I could. I could see that definitely all day.
I love mcveage. Oh the cold doesn't matter, Oh yeah
really yeah sure, yeah yeah yeah. When that throw, when
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that little thing rolls up into your body cavity, when
it's that cold. Now, now it's bad, man, it's really bad.
It's it's terrible. That's what's gonna happen in this weekend.
It's gonna be bad. That's gonna be bad.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
So what what do you think?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I mean, Look, I we talked about this game a
few minutes ago. I know the weather is terrible, but
it does I just have a sneaking suspicion McVeigh is
gonna have it. Have a plan that's going to involve
a lot of running. They're not gonna throw the football
as much. They're gonna they're gonna bank on getting a
couple of turnovers from Caleb Williams, and they're gonna find
a way to escape and get to the NFC Championship.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
I don't know what scenario you thinks when games are
like this. All I know is it's really fun. And yeah,
that scenario could play out, and it is a pretty
good one because you got a young quarterback in a
really big game, and you've got a team that's been
feasting on turnovers all season long and coming from behind
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in games. This look this Bears team, I think we've
talked about before, is very similar to the last Bears
team that made it to the Super Bowl, with a
lot of comeback wins. The differences, like Caleb Williams can
really play, whereas Rex Rossmond could long term. So you
have this foundation to play. I'm not trying to make
fun of the Bears on that one. It's just you know,
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Rex Rosmin was again, he gets you through it to
that point, and then they finally lost their team with
a much better quarterback who wasn't going to make mistakes
in the Super Bowl. And so I can see this
one where Matt Stafford is really smart, is not going
to make some kind of hate wire play. But Matt
Stafford does have as great a quarterback as he is.
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He's had some nu coalition moments where the ball just
you know, like you're sitting there going wait a second,
you tickle. You know, you were a little bit too
brave maybe on that one. I'm not for what were
you trying to do there? There have been some times
like that. Now it's reduced as his career is going on,
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but in these kind of elements like wow, I mean
I was at the Packers Giants game when Brett Farr
was just throwing balls all over the place and Eli
Manning was like, Okay, we'll get through this somehow. Yeah,
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And Brett Farr was playing three flies up with his
buddies in the backyard and throwing the ball to the
to the other side all game long. So well, I
just don't know what to expect from this game. I
would tend to take the more experienced quarterback and the
more experienced coach, but I come back to look, I
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grew up in Los Angeles. I don't like the cold.
Those guys don't like the cold. It's going to be
miserable for them. I don't care what mcfay says. You
know it's gonna it's it's brutal. It's just absolutely brutal
to play that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Good man.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
It comes all the way back to Bears, all right.
Can the Houston defense score enough to win against New England?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Can the Houston defense score enough.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
At least one one touchdown?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Aren't they?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Look, Jay Cole I said I would pick the Texas
to win this game, but unfortunately I watched CJ.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Stroud play quarterback last week, so I can't do it.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Well, I mean, the the first time party is like
he didn't really have to play, did he. I mean
it's like I had to get through it. Yeah, like
they were gifted a game. There was a challenge and
I think that New England's up for this challenge. So yeah,
I don't like, I don't like what Houston is at
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the moment, and I don't like for CJ. Stroud is
at his in his career. That doesn't mean I'm giving
up on CJ. Stroud right at the moment. I mean
they just they're they're they're just not in a really
functional place offensively right now. They're just there's no consistency there.
But I don't think they're ready for this. I think
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that New England's you know, New England doesn't do things
to beat itself and they and they showed that against
the Chargers where they just went from a methodical game
and they said we're going to take away everything that
you want to do. We're going to put the product
for pressure on you, stifle you. It was that was
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like that was a classic Belichickian type of games where
it's like, okay, we're going to this is not this
is not going to be close because we're gonna we're
going to take away everything from you, and you know
we're also not going to take chances either.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. He is
also looking for no, we'll do that night. We'll do
that next week. We had to get the We got
big games this weekend, Jason Cale, we got big games.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Well, okay, we got to the Steelers. Are you know
interviewing a guy named Kubiak that nobody expected that.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, guys name guys named Kubiak and Schuler are getting interviews.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
It's nineteen eighty again. I mean it's everything is fine.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Yeah, Football just repeats himself. There you go.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Okay, games, We'll enjoy the game.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Brother, Yeah, he seems upset. We didn't have a chance
to talk about coaches. But you know, these pesky games
just getting away too much.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Mike Carmen, I'll tell you what, you know, the actual
playing in the games instead of you know, the guy's
long dormant and on vacation.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
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Speaker 3 (29:13):
Uh but joining us now the hotline for more on
these stories. There is nobody better than the owner, editor,
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the previous all the prognostications done by Pete Feutech. He
is on Twitter at Pete fu Tech. He joins us, now, Pete,
(29:34):
what's happening man?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (29:36):
I wish I had the deal of you know, dari
and ment where you just sort of, you know, get
paid a little bit more at the last second and
move on. That seems pretty sweet.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, it's definitely sweet. Not if you're Duke, but that's
definitely sweet.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Well, you're the problem, like when do you you know?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
It's just some kind of a wame way to put
it here. But like it's kind of like like a
fantasy football league. Sometimes we're like when there, like in
our league, there's a direct cutoff date or cutoff moment,
like an hour and a half before kickoff. Okay, so
then what happens when you know, eighty nine or ninety
one minutes before kickoff? Someone drops the guy that they
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think other guys are gonna watch, you know, like like
when if you're going to have the cutoff moment and say, okay,
well the deadline is today? Well okay, so is it
today the deadline or not? You know, so like that's
all a pretty kosher you know, it's all part of
the deal. It just seems kind of wrong that, all right,
you know, seems like it's going to be Miami. It's
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going to swoop in and take Darien Mensa. But like, yeah,
kind of thinks. But the part about this is like, look,
you know, Duke went and gave Menta a lot of
money to get him away from the portal and away
from Tulane, and now they're all mad that someone else
is offering him a lot of money and maybe a
little bit more to leave. It's kind of welcome to
the game, son, It's kind of what thing's played right now.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Wait, so you think it's going to be Miami, you
think that's where that's where he's at.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
It seems like it seems like that's I mean, it's
if he's going in the last decond, it seems like
that would be the place because he's going to get
paid a lot of money to do this and he's
already the you know, it was never.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Official, but it was something about like four million to
play for Duke and he kind of you know, that's
what changed the whole market for Nico Yami Lieva and
you know for others, and if he's going to leave
Duke and Miami's desperate for a quarterback. It kind of
seems like that might fit.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Oh, I like this, So does that mean he's coming
in to run it back or rebuild from the Ashes
after they get crushed by Signetti and they were googling
him again.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I don't even know why they show up. I mean,
it's Signetti and all the signettiness that the you know
in India. Like, I let me ask you this, are
you guys? Are you guys that you're sitting in this
this matchup? Are you like do you have National Championship fever?
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Like?
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Is there you fired up for this game?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I am fired up?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Like like Kurt Signetti go to Chipotle every single day,
Tech every day.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
That's awesome, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Pete.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I don't know how much y'all have left after the
Bears Rams game, but yeah, whatever I got left pouring
into whatever defense Crystal Ball can throw at the Indiana
sink you joke, but that.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Really does suck. I mean, because like, honestly, if we have,
you know we're gonna have we have, We're gonna be
coming off of the divisional rounds and it's what all
sports talk radio is gonna want to talk about now.
The difference being that since ESPN has the National Championship,
it's gonna be wall the wall, Indiana versus Miami. But
the rest of the world is going to be talking
about whatever happens on Saturday and Sunday. You know, so
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especially if like let's say we do get like, you know,
Bears versus like Niners, and you know, Patriots versus Bills
or whatever it turns out to be, you know, that's
gonna be the front and center talking. It's gonna be
oh yeah, and you know shift gears here, let's go
to the National Championship. They drag it out a little
(33:03):
bit too long, and this is kind of a byproduct
of that. Now it's it's a classic game, then everyone's
going to be like wow, and that's the all the
way's going to talk about with us of the week
if this, you know, is just a thriller. But I
hope so, I'm hoping it's going to be a good game.
But I just Indiana has a way of turning teams
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into quivering bowl to go. So uh, let's let's see
how Miami shows up.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
For see, here's the thing. Pete is. I do think
we're going to get a classic.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I think we're going to get a game that's a
lot like the Giants Bills, Super Bowl, the Norwood miss
Because Miami's defense is fast, it's physical. They're gonna come
in and they're going to take shots at Fernanda Mendoza
and try to make them uncomfortable. Right, Indiana's got a
great offense, but they've been a front running team for
a long time, especially coming off that game last week
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where you get a pick six on the first play,
you do whatever you want to throwing the football, running
the football. Miami's defense is going to make it harder
for Indiana, and I can just see a couple of
those typical Miami thirteen play seventy yard eight and a
half minutes off the clock drives, it keeps Mendoza on
the bench where if it's a field touchdown, field goal
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doesn't matter, and I can see Miami pulling the upset
using that formula.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
The only problem is I'm not there. And basically every
National championship I've been to has been awesome in the
playoff era, and every game I have not been at
I was supposed to go, but couldn't it the last second?
Every game I haven't been at it's stunk.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
So there's that problem.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
But if you tech.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Kerts, people need to rally together for three thousand dollars
for Pete to gift tickets.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Oh no, I've got I've got the credentials. The credentials
we worth. The problem. It's you know, various you know,
other aspects of this which I will not get into.
But you should be happy. You you've benefited from this
as much as anybody else. I didn't go with the
last second, very very very last second. I didn't go
to Michigan TCU so or Michigan Washington so okay, so
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there was a orta Michigan TCU. I'm sorry too soon. No,
But to your point direct points, one of those things
that no one's done is run the ball religiously on Indiana.
It's like they everyone stops. And it's my biggest pet peeve.
It's a college thing, not a pro thing. You know,
you can go to teams and like there's certain teams
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like Notre Dame who have just this twisted thing where
they're like one hundred and ninety five and one for
the last like whatever, how many twenty years whenever they
run the ball twenty five times or more, when didn't
they do it? They didn't run twenty five times or
more against Ohio State last year, or did against Northern Illinois,
or just like it's there was always these weird stats
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like that, no one has run the ball like much
on Indiana. I said, the most anybody's done it this
year is ten State ran on only thirty three times.
Like Alabama.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
You's got this.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
Big, massive group of guys up front and NFL line,
you're only running it what seventeen times.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
It's like they stop now.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
I kind of get why Oregon didn't because didn't have
any running backs available. But if you're Miami to your
direct point, even if you're getting stuffed right away, and
they did get stuffed by Ole Miss, but they ran
the ball a good jillion times, just keep pounding away.
Just eventually that NFL offensive line's gonna start to break through.
Because it's it's so funny.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
In my little sewing.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
Circle of guys, everyone's sitting thinking, oh, well, we're gonna
get another Indiana blowout, and because they've just been too good,
too technically good, but in the back of their minds.
Everyone's kind of said the same thing you're saying. It's like, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You know, this Miami.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Team's got the guys. So as long as Carson Beck
doesn't start throwing interceptions like he did against Louisville and SMU. Yeah,
I'm hoping. Maybe I'm wish captain this, but I think
it's going to be a pretty good game.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Pete, were you surprised that Dante Moore said I'm going
back to school Rodney Dangerfield style.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Yeah, I am, like, and that's a red flag. Like
I'm in the Bill Parcells camp where if you want
to be an NFL player, go be an NFL player.
What are you doing hanging around with a college kids? Like,
I get it, you know, he wants to improve and
all that kind of stuff. I find it kind of
hilarious that, you know, he wants to come back to
college and you know, there's a long season. He needs a break.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
He's going to take a vacation.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Meanwhile, classes started at Oregon like two weeks ago, so
I don't think he's you know, diving into the class
work on this. I think he wants to get better,
and I get it, and I guess where he wants
to be. You know, maybe he doesn't really just does
not want to be a Jet or maybe he thinks
he can be the number one pick next year. But
for whatever reason, Okay, great, you know that's fine, But
(37:40):
I don't know, just go if you're that good, if
you're going to be a top five pick. And I
still think even after the performance against Indiana, once you
get him into workouts, he's a little more of a
projection than Mendoza, but he could have been number one overall.
Definitely number two maybe, So if you're that good, don't
just go in the league, I guess. But look, coming
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back to all of a sudden makes you know, Oregon
that much more powerful coming in the next year, and
it's certainly a bigger deal where you know, for all
the people talking, well this is the start of the
dynasty for Indiana they have the number one transfer portal
and all that kind of stuff. Well, or you know,
Ohio State's not quitting football, Michigan's going to be better.
I mean, you know, who knows what we're getting?
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Got it?
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Teams like we go Wisconsin and Illinois and a better
u c l A going forward. USC at the best
recruiting class in the country, and now Oregon gets back
a guy who might be the number two pick in
the draft next year after our Schmanning goes one. So
it's going to be a everyone's thinking that's the Big
ten is going to take a hit now after these
you know, this massive run, Now that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Now let me let me throw the shatch for Dante
more pete, because this is a different way to think
of him going back to school. I get not wanting
to be a Jet and sitting there at number two,
you know, I understand that, But what are the chances
that Dante Moore, hey, you know whatever it was, got
feedback the Jets said, yeah, we might not take you
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at number two.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
We don't know if you're ready, and you could slide.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
And I didn't get the feedback from that he needed
from the rest of the league, and he could have
wind up being a guy that we thought was going
to go number two, but would slide through the first
round because teams are nervous about it because he doesn't
have the starts and all all the things that you
just talked about. What are the odds that he didn't
get the feedback from the league he wanted and that's
why he went back to school.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
Isn't like he's going to be this year Shador Sanders
and keep float dropping down? The problem though, is no.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I mean like he would drop down to the end
of the first round like he would he would take
the second, third or fourth.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Yeah, but like who I mean kid club Nick No,
Drew Aller No. I mean, I guess Ty Simpson is
I'm not buying that. But the Ty Simpson's your guy now,
I mean, like he's the guy who could go number
two to the Jets only because in the Quarterback Star
Draft that's it. But that's possible. He could absolutely have
done that to me. Though again, if you were a
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quarterback with the potential to be some franchise quarterback, I
still I just can't get past it. Like justin Herbert
literally made more money than the Mountain West. You know,
It's like, you know, Joe Burrow is making more money
than Conference USA and meteor rites, Like, you got to
get to that second contract as soon as possible. Now
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you're talking, you know, real money, amigo money, You're talking
you know, you're talking to fifty five million a year deal.
So it's the fact that you can get there if
you are good enough. It doesn't really matter where you go.
But I get it. I mean, he's to only twenty,
and I get that he wants to progress and get
better and do all that. But that's a that's a
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pretty big risk to take because you're never sure to
be as quite as hot as you are right now.
I mean just remember Carton Beck was the presumptive number
one overall pick a couple of years ago, and Garrett Nusmeyer, well,
he's going to be the number one pick. You know, guys,
rise up. You know there's going to be another Mendoza
out there coming that we don't see coming. So when
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you when you have your chance, you kind of got
to take it when it comes to the drafting world.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen
live from our Miami, Indiana headquarters.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Forget about ESPN. We're the headquarters there. At least we
will be on the right.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Uh yeah, no, no, no, no, we're in We're in
our Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
Peat well, the weather, the weather is definitely better, and
you know you have to play a local right there.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Which is yeah, hey, if you're ever in town, Pete,
I'll play a loco on us.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Oh, I've I've been. I've met Steck, Steve Harvey, Nikki
six know they're I'm a big fan of the spot.
Fox Sports Studios area.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
And in LA.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
The weather strong. You know right now that is in
Miamiami weather. It's what's been pretty lousy for the next
few days.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Well, it's gonna be better than it is in Chicago
one Sunday night, that's for sure too.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
That's better. You know, I'm.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
Not to pivot off here, but how can it. I
know Matthew Stafford and you know Devanca Adams have played
in their professionals, they reduced all these guys use the
cold weather. But how do you not get It's gonna
be seventy nine degrees in La on Sunday and it's
going to be like two here pretty much for the
rest of the week. So I've got to imagine that's
gonna matter some, but it's not gonna be two degrees
in Miami.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So beat great stuff as always, have a great weekend.
We'll talk to you after the game on Monday night.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
Thereter, guys,