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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon remember Lou Holtz, what he doesn't get enough credit for, what's going to happen with Aaron Rodgers, a surprise landing spot for Tua, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Wednesday, The Jason Smith Show with
my bass friend Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports
Are Radio Studios, where Uh, in a minute, we're gonna
remember an absolute legend. However, don't tell me coaches can't

(00:52):
win games in the NBA. Now, Mike Harmon Martin explain
mar Key. Game of the night. Look like I always say,
in a full night of NBA games, if you get
one game that comes down to the end, consider yourself
lucky and luckily. Tonight, Thunder and the Knicks biggest game
of the night, two title contenders, comes down to the
final possession. The Knicks miss a couple of threes in

(01:14):
the final couple of seconds, Thunder escape with a three
point win. But I'll tell you what for all of this.
You look at plays down the stretch in this game.
Don't don't sit here and tell me coaches can't win games.
The two biggest plays of the fourth quarter of this game,
in the final three minutes, the Thunder win two challenges,
two big challenges. They challenge on an og Anunobi layup

(01:36):
that was going to be a three point play, and
it was really it looked like the contact it was
really could have gone either way. But they went and
they reversed it. So instead of a layup and ogn
Nooby trying to shoot for the three point play, it's
an offensive foul Nananobi and the Thunder keep the ball.
A minute later and out of bounds play on offense
for the Knicks, it's rule to go to the Thunder.

(01:58):
No that play is challenge. I'm like, okay, that looked
like it that went off the Thunder. What are we doing?
What are we doing? Like? I can't believe they won
the first one and the second one not only did
it get reversed, but it got reversed because of a
foul on Karl Anthony Town. So they went back to
look at the out of bounds play and chet Holgern's
going out of bounds, out of bounds, out of bunds.
I'm like, okay, And then did they come back and

(02:19):
say balls out of bounds. Yeah, foul on Karl Anthony Towns.
That was his fifth. A minute later, he fouled out
on Sja, which is a which is a bad play
by him. Mean, he's been he's fouled out the most
in the NBA this season, but now they didn't have
him for the final two and a half minutes of
the game. Those were the two biggest plays. When you
sit here and talk about, oh, challenges agaend, knowing when
to save them, knowing when to use them, it's a

(02:39):
five point swing winning the Anonobe challenge and then whatever
points swing you want to put to instead of the knicks.
With the ball out of bounds, it's a foul on
Karl Anthony Towns. You're shooting free throws and he was
out of the game forty five seconds later. Don't tell
me coaches can't win. Yeah, the one with the ogianinobi
restricted area or are not moving in or not set

(03:03):
all that, you know, that's that's just recall. Unfortunately, there's
too much contact and not call something right. I just
hope like Rick carrl I always hope that the NBA
is not out to help out these smaller market teams
who they want to give an advantage to, because you know,
people watch the small market teams on television more than
the big market team. Funny, they're trying to create parody
in a league. You know, as we get down the stretch,

(03:27):
I mean, you are the defending champions. That is true
that you are the defending the last champions. So you
get a little seesaw back and forth and you get
that call. Now, the the cat call is a tough one,
right one, because he came flying over his Oh yeah,
yeah right. It was a bad decision by Cat to

(03:47):
do because he made too bad decisions that right. That
fall and then the fall on SGA wasn't a play
on anything. It was just a reach and grabs his wrist. Right,
It's it's just a let him come into your body
or get your arm up, like he reached down to
try to get at the ball and only got was
a handful of wrist. Yeah, I mean, well, and that's
what SGA does. I'll get to the free throw though,

(04:08):
don't worry. I will find my way. But that's it.
We always talk about on the show for all these
years that you can't fault a good strategy. You may
not like it as a fan, you may throw something
at your television. Hopefully it's sales wide right, like field
goal kickers in Buffalo. But you're you're hoping too soon. Man,
come on, man, Scott Norwidz probably driving around Buffalo going
to get some wings. Anybody here? Why do I get sides?

(04:29):
It's a basketball conversation about the Knicks and the thunder,
and I get sideswiped on it. Wow, and larger New
York area and a team than actually another team that
plays in New York. But just the idea that you have,
SGA And this is the book on him, right, So
you know, even at home, even in a hotly contested game,
he's getting that file call every time you watched it

(04:51):
over the course of the game. How many times did
he did he get a foul calls?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Like?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Really, is that enough contact really to warn a fol No?
And he does. And so that that's just the rules
of engagement. Now when ABS comes to the NBA, oh
yeah yeah, and everybody's officiated to say you get ready, right,
like strike zone in baseball is going to be the
same same thing. Here, you are just player number three
hundred and eighty four in the Union. It doesn't matter.

(05:17):
The man's going for their seventy third win of the
season here in game number seventy four, their only loss
when they got snowed in earlier this year. But here
it is the NBA on NBC playing against the brand
new Queens Mets who have moved from Brooklyn. So we
got more NBA on the way again. Get one big
close game tonight. That's awesome. Hey, we won, But today

(05:40):
we lost an absolute legend in former college football head coach,
former Notre Dame legend, former South legend, former Jets legend,
former ESPN college football analyst legend Lou Holtz, passing away
at the age of eighty nine. And look you've seen

(06:00):
and when when he died today And Frostburg sent me
a text going, hey, what do you guys do to
Lou Holtz? And I was like, you know, he coached
us for a year, you know he resign. He coached
the Jets for a year in seventy six and quit
at the end of the year. And I think his
quote was God didn't put Lou Holtz on the earth
to coach professionals like I gotta go back to college,

(06:21):
like that's my thing, like he gets And the Jets
were three and ten the one year under lou Holtz
and they never recover and can't see out the rest
of the season. I'm done. I'm done, guys, not gonna
go to the end like that. That's the thing, like
Patrino and I'm walking away. I'm just walking away. But
remember a couple of things, is that you hear a
lot about him in his legendary time at Notre Dame.

(06:45):
There's two things that he doesn't get enough credit for.
And the first one is something probably that you will
get you is that he brought No tre Dame back.
No tre Dame is what it is today today in
twenty twenty six because Lou Holtz brought it back for
the decade he was there in the late eighties into
the mid nineties, Nore Dame, Hey, Notre Dame was still

(07:08):
a really big school, but it was not the overall
wild It is the it is the end all be all,
the alpha and omega of college football. They had bad years, right,
You've you've heard the name Jerry Faust, and what it
was like in Notre Dame struggling after Ara Parsigin, like
Notre Dame had lost its way, like they were not
part of the national conversation at all. Lou Holtz shows

(07:29):
up and in a decade, in three years, he went
won a national championship, went to another one, which will
break down, you know, not winning that one. But this
is a guy who went ten years turned Notre Dame
into the biggest rock stars in college football. As status
they have they have owned since that time. Notre Dame
still has been Notre Dame. Since that moment, whoever the

(07:50):
coach is Notre Dame has had that much, has had
that aura, and lou Holtz brought it back. They were nowhere,
they were just floundering. All this is Notre Dame once
proud Notre Dame. Yeah no, no, he brought them back.
It was Lou Holtz that has Notre Dame where they
are today.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I mean, as a kid in Chicago, that's all you
heard about. That was the adopted team of everybody that
had ever stepped foot inside a church or knew someone
that did. And certainly you had the Bears making their
run and perennial playoff contenders. Ultimately that eighty five Bears
squad that they still write all those books about and

(08:25):
cash in on year to year. But for Notre Dame football,
I mean you got to go back. Divine had what
an eleven win season in seventy seven, and then you
had nine win season in nineteen eighty. You had the
Jerry Faust era, and then you go from there into
Lou Holtz, and obviously the advent and changing of how

(08:48):
the game was telecast and the power of brand really
took over on a whole other level. Right, we go
back to Catholics versus Convicts in those games and all
of that that resonate all these years. I think we
did a special teams podcast on that many years ago.
You can find that wherever you find your podcast histories.

(09:10):
But all of that of that to say, for Lou Holtz,
he was that figure right the way he spoke, the
way I mean, look at all the tributes from his
players today. Now he's a complicated guy. There's a lot
going on with Holts, Oh sure, okay, But for the
purpose of this conversation, there's a lot too. I mean,
we could do and I know the odd couple did
some and and and I'm sure we could do four

(09:32):
hours on every angle of the Lou Holtz experiences of this.
It is talking about the changing face of college football,
the billion dollar TV contracts, the recruiting juggernaut that it became,
all those household names and players and plays for all
these years, and why you see them thrust upon you

(09:53):
on NBC in primetime and late afternoon windows all these
years later. It was the dominance exhibited there by Lou
Holtz and those squads and his persona right as a coach,
he was a speaker. He was a guy that wasn't
afraid of the microphone. I mean, how many coaches did
you really hear from back then? Him Bowden, a little
bit of Joe Paterno screaming at people. Yeah, but you know,

(10:15):
and even then, because of the way college football was covered,
you didn't get a lot of it. You got some
highlights and you got a scoreboard, and then you got
whatever quotes were in the evening news. Yeah. And look,
and that's the other thing that he doesn't get enough
credit for us, Right, Okay, so he brings back Notre
Dame from the brink of boy it was so great
And now they're in disrepair and all of a sudden,

(10:35):
now the Golden domers and they're Musty TV, and they
have their you know, they have their own network every Saturday.
But the other thing that he doesn't get enough credit for,
And look, when people do stuff right, you gotta give
him credit. ESPN has done college football and college basketball
unbelievably well now for going on four decades, right, like really,

(10:59):
I mean, the way that Fox has caught up in
both sports is fantastic. But leg of credit, college football,
college basketball, ESPN does tremendously well. They have always done
it tremendously well. They find a way to service the
viewer with the games, the coverage, They do it great.
But their lasting popularity is due to two people, Lee

(11:20):
Corso into Lou Holtz. Because what these guys were responsible
for on the air, Lee Corso coming on and being
tremendous lightning Rod, not just you know, putting on the
head gear of the teams, picking the games, but Lee Corso,
the chemistry he had with Kirk krb Street and Chris Fowler.
But you know, Corso was that guy, the beloved guy

(11:40):
you tuned in every week to see him. What was
he gonna say who was he gonna pick in the
big game, And lou Holtz was the same way the
College football Final on Saturdays, which with him and Mark
May and Rhys Davis. I mean, this was It's almost
like that was the inside the NBA of college football
because that was your wall to wall coverage all day.

(12:01):
You watch Lou Holtz for what he had to say
in Mark May, and they did crazy bits throughout the night.
They came back and forth at each other, like yeah,
session with Reese Davis. Yeah, Reece Davis is dressed as
a judge and lou Holtz and Mark May are like
making arguments for whoever the Heisman Trophy winners should be
at that point wherever it should be the number two
pick in the draft. Like this is the kind of

(12:22):
show it was for college football on Saturday, like the
College Football Final. It was all day with them and
it and that's what right remind what I watched is
this is kind of like watching inside the NBA, where
you have your pre show. We have the early game,
we have the halftime, we had the between games, we
have the halftime of the late game when things get
really crazy, and then after the late game when everybody's
just loopy because you know, it's like ten o'clock, one
o'clock in the morning at football, and Shaq and Charles

(12:44):
are like, yeah, but that's what that show was. And
for people who have been college football fans of all ages,
you get into college football in the nineties and you're
watching ESPN that had all the different games on in
ESPN two jumps in and then you're seeing smaller colleges
on everywhere and Lee Corso Game Day, Hey was just

(13:04):
starting to hit its prime. And then once it got
in there, here comes College Football Final and it's Lou
Holtz and Mark may And and Rhys Davis and whoever
else would fill in. And that was almost a two
decade run as well. So it was, Hey, we had
the pre show to get you everything all the way before,
like it was a full service day and the two
guys that you watched all the time were Lee Corso

(13:25):
and Lou Holtz. Like, I mean, Lou Holtz doesn't get
enough credit for what ESPN had college football. How they
continue to grow that over the course of the past
twenty someone i mean stopped a couple of years ago,
but the twenty years he was there from like two
thousand until let's say after twenty twenties, like like that.
This is before we're getting games all the time, you know,

(13:46):
we we're watching him streaming now, so we don't need
the between games updates because I can see whatever I
want to, you know, we get everything is more convenient now.
So this was that show at that time that hey,
when I want to know something, when I want to
see it, they're going to talk about it. Lou Holtz
is gonna say something really strong and he's gonna not
back away from it. And it was it was just

(14:06):
a great, great show. Well but that was the big thing,
right we talked about inside the NBA, And when we
guys get critical now, it's like, wow, you're gonna lash
it out against you. No, no, no, that that's what Corso
and Lou Holtz did forever. Yeah, it's like, look, they
had the love fest for the coaches, for the players,
for the game, but they didn't sugarcoate it for you.
If a guy made a bad decision on a play call,

(14:27):
they called it out. If a kid made a bad
decision in game, they called it out. And so that
honesty brought you in for the following Saturday and Saturday
after that for all those years. Exit. How about a
Fresca exit swollen dome. Lou Holt's passing away today at
the age of eighty nine. Will continue to remember lou
Holtz throughout the show tonight. Well, there's some great Lou
Holtz stories from his days coaching, and we'll get to

(14:50):
that that disputed national championship that he almost won the
second time around. Oh, I thought we were gonna go
game by game with the Jets. Don't let him play
three and ten three in ten and he quit, okay,
intended he quit, doesn't matter, he broke, It doesn't matter. Yeah.
The fact that he'sti went on too a great career
tells you can survive the Jets. You can survive that.
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(15:32):
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Five Second Dance Party Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. He's my friend. We

(16:53):
could just speak in time with this song and give
you all the big hot takes of the day. I mean,
I think there's I think there's room for that somewhere.
I think we can do you do it to you
do it in time, but you would need the uh,
just the instrumental version, so you're not competing with the
words of the song because then you want to sing along. Yeah,

(17:15):
and you start drifting back into lyrically. Yeah. Yeah. Five
years from now, the data trade they should have gotten
karl Anth and the Towns right. Yeah, becomes a full
on karaoke experience for us here in the studio. I'll
get I'll bring my glitter ball from home and we'll go, okay, good,
very you have you have a glitter ball? Really? Yeah,
a glitter ball. I also have one that we can
plug right in there and it'll light up the road.

(17:38):
Do you have a glitter ball, like it's up in
your house or you have it somewhere. I have it, Yeah,
but you're kind of smiling like like like it's not
like it can it can? It can be activated quick
like like when you come home at night and you
have your door set up there when you put your
key and open up and you hear coming in now,
Mike Harmon and that when I buy the you wear

(17:58):
it like the date you wearing like the big G
Simmons boots, you know, going on stage, biting blood packets
out of your mouth. The prop store auction between that
and the bird hippo they want that. They're just ketchup
packets that were blood. No, no, no, I mean the boots. No,
the boots. I don't care about the catchup, okay, no No.
Jonas and I used to do disco fantasy at like
two thirty in the morning back in the day. He's great.

(18:20):
All the drunks coming back from the bars down the
street and they'd stand in the window and we'd mock
them while giving fantasy advice. It was great. They had
to stop giving out uh ketchup packets at school in
fourth grade, third grade when Kiss was the biggest group
on the planet. Right, Kiss was the biggest rock rover
on the planet in the late seventies, right when Double
Platinum came out. Nothing was bigger than Kiss. I had

(18:42):
their own movie, they had their own everything. They had.
All four guys did did solo albums. And Gene Simmons,
you know, we found out that you know, he would
just you know, his blood would come out of his
mouth when he's playing songs, and we'd always just biting
blood packets. So we take a card I'm sure everybody
else did this too, across country. But we would have
like like catch packets and we would bite them down
and see if we could make ourselves look like Geene

(19:03):
Simmons and pop out. And we did it and everything
was fine. And you know we we did it every day.
We would go up to the to the lunch the
lunch people, and hey, can we get some more ketchup? Yeah? Sure,
here you go, Here you go. I mean, well half
the time we're going home and just ketchup all over you.
What happened to spilled ketchup on me? But these two
guys wants, these two kids once stage to fake fight,
and they're like, I'm gonna do it in front of missus.

(19:24):
Franz read the uh who was Who's a lunch room?
She she she supervised a lunch room. Is I'm gonna
I'm gonna, uh stage a fight. You pretend to hit
me and I'll bite the blood packet and see what happens.
And and of course you know she's half paying attention.
She's somebody throw a punch and the kid bites, the
bites the blood packets so hard like that it gets everywhere,

(19:44):
but it gets on him and it gets on her
and she's like, oh what And then when she figured
out what it was like, that was it. There was
no more ketchup in the lunch room for like the
rest of the week. If you know how to behave,
we'll bring ketchup back next week. So we had a
we had a weak ban on ketchup because of that.
It's funny because I would say, I'll speak for a
lot of school administrators and teachers, they'd love for that

(20:05):
to be the biggest issue yo, right now in nineteen
in nineteen seventy eight, that was pants got ruined because
I gotta catch up on him right now. That's a win.
I gotta catch up on pants, like I get that out.
That's not a problem. See, that's much better. I had
a guy that decided he was he learned that there
was blading in professional wrestling. I can't no, no, no, no, no,

(20:27):
that was what was that in the wrestler? Then maybe
I cut you whoa whoa no no no, no, no,
no do I do that? So emerging out of the
darkness today was Aaron Rodgers. Remember he's been in the
darkness retreat for the last gemplating his future supposedly he
was said there was no no soap and no plumbing.

(20:50):
I think was what it was, No soap and the plumbing. Uh,
the no plumbing. Okay, not my favorite thing to go
to the bathroom in nature, but I've camped enough and
I've got Okay, that's fine. Uh No, he is tough,
no selp like, boy, I gotta all right, So I
gotta go and just kinda break some bark off of
a tree and like rub it under my arms and
then just like lay in the in the waters, rebel

(21:11):
in your musk. Yeah, I mean I think I think
a darkness tree is more like I'm staying in a
cabin in the woods. That's that's kind of what it is. Well,
I mean when you say cabin in the woods, it
invokes uh the movie of that same title, and and
really that's a whole other world, and you roll with
the change. Uh, it would have just been cooler with
a merman. So he comes out of the darkness and

(21:31):
he goes on Pat McAfee show today. Now what's gonna
happen Is Aaron Rodgers gonna play football this year? Coming
off a pretty good last year with the Steelers, and
he gives this cryptic answer. But don't worry. I can
tell you exactly why he appeared on Pat McAfee and
what he wants to get out there and if he's
coming back. But here he is talking about how well,

(21:52):
if I'm gonna come back, I kind of got to
hear from Pittsburgh at some point.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I've talked to Mike, I've talked to Omar. There's been
no deadline that's been you know, that's been put in
front of me. There's no contract, you know, offer or anything.
So there's nothing that I'm you know, having to debate
between I'm you know, free agent and you know again,
I'm I'm enjoying my time with my wife and enjoying

(22:18):
this part of the off season, and and you know,
I think there's conversations to be had down the line,
but right now, I'm not not. There hasn't been any
progressive conversations.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I like how he's doing the whole I'm choosing more
time with my family over football time for us and
more time. Nobody chooses more time with their family because
they've been away from their family for thirty years. I'm
not going to suddenly go back now. But he is
actually choosing time with his wife, time with my family
in the off season. He's the anti Clayton Kershaw in
your world. What he's doing Clayton Carroll, by the way,
got taken deep today in w By. It's just a

(22:51):
warm up. So what does this mean? What what I
can tell you everything that's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers
just from that SoundBite. Okay, First of all, Roger is
going to play this year. There is no way he's not.
He is not going to risk not controlling the narrative
to the end of his career. Right, Guys that are
big stars. When you get to the level of Aaron Rodgers,

(23:12):
you want to go out on your terms. You want
to retire, You want to be the one to call
the shots. That was dicey for him coming off his
injuries with the Jets. Was he gonna get another chance
and things were different? But he has a pretty decent
ish season with the Steelers last year. If he was
going to retire, he would just retire because he's not
gonna give up the power. He would come out and say,
you know what, I was in a Darknesster treat. It

(23:32):
was by myself and I was in the Woods, and
I talked to a fox and the fox said, how
you knowing mister Rodgers? And I said, oh, that's nice.
And all of a sudden here comes a deer, and
then all of a sudden, it's snow White. And I'm
talking a bunch of people. Hio, Hio. Well, I mean
mcvie's part of the ESPN, you know, ABC, Disney Family.
They could have really presented that whole thing. Yeah, but
I still think snow White's on a moratorium. You can't

(23:53):
you can't get it where you at. Every twenty years
that Disney does it, they get rid of movies, and
he can't get him for a while. I think so,
so they think it's all on the street. He definitely
wants to play. He's definitely going to play, because he's
not gonna suddenly now go oh now, I'm not gonna play.
He's going to play. He can back up to it
with the Jets. Everybody's gonna back up Derek Carr, everybody

(24:14):
goes back to all three of them back with the Jets.
But for Aaron Rodgers, what's he trying to accomplish here?
He is telling the Steelers, you ain't getting me for free.
This year. Okay. Now, I didn't have any influence or
cachet going into last season. So he really played it

(24:34):
from a great perspective of Hey, I just want to play.
I don't need tons of money and go to the
I go to the Steelers and I'm gonna try to
finish my career on my terms. Right, That's what he
wanted to do. He didn't really have any any power,
he didn't have cachet. He signed a one year deal
for about fourteen to fifteen million, right, Okay, But now

(24:57):
he has a pretty good year and Steelers are saying, Okay,
we're going to go get Mike McCarthy. Okay, great, we've
got Mike McCarthy. I want Aaron Okay, I had a
pretty good year last year. You need something, You need me,
cause you're not gonna get a quarterback anywhere in the

(25:19):
draft this year. You're not gonna go out and get
Kyler Murray or Kirk Cousins and bring one of those
guys in. You want me, and I am telling you
I am not coming cheap this year. It's not gonna
be one year. I'll play for love of the game. Stuff.
The fact that he says there's no contract offer like
he didn't say, Hey, we're talking. We're gonna talk later.

(25:39):
Everything is fine. I've talked to Omar, I talked to Mike.
He is letting everybody know it's not just gonna be
I roll over and take whatever you give me. No, no, no,
this is gonna be. I'm gonna get more money. Maybe
it's something with two years in it, because I could
play this year or next year. I've felt my love
of the game again. I'm playing pretty well. I think
I know the offense well enough. Yeah, I'm ready to
keep going here. I kind of like it here in Pittsburgh.

(26:00):
I got Mike McCarthy all of a sudden, this is
a whole new world for me. But I ain't coming cheap.
So this is the first salvo and him saying, you're
not gonna come at me with Hey, how about one
year and twelve million. No, this is gonna be if
justin bleeping Fields can get two years and forty million
with the Jets, guess what I want two years and
forty million. I want it all guaranteed, all right, I
want thirty million guaranteed. He is telling the Steelers, Okay,

(26:22):
I'm coming back. I'm playing but it ain't just gonna
be meat taking whatever you put in front of me.
This is gonna be a thing. Talked a lot about
Latrobe and the love of being in front of the fans.
One of my favorite places to go for those that
just love being around football. You like the random trips
in the summertime, go out to Latrobe, go watch some
training camp. It'll be hotter than hell, but you get

(26:43):
access to the players and a lot of love there.
It's a great environment, great view, all of that stuff.
But it's the idea for Rogers. Look, he had a
six six point one or thereabouts intended air yards per attempt.
Only three quarterbacks were worse than that last year. You
want to guess who they were? Uh, both of them played,

(27:04):
two of them played for the Jets. Only one of
them in this Oh really okay, okay, so justin fields?
No sure? Oh Brady Cook? Yeah, okay, all right, I
thought both of them, I really I thought both of them.
Isn't much higher. But here's a three. Okay, all right,
very good? Okay, And then you got Dylan Gabriel and
uh free agent to be Kyler Murray. Yeah, match, but then, sorry,

(27:28):
I'm a short guy. Can That's that's not right, that's
not cool man your side you've been side swiping people
since we started the show tonight. Would you rather go
back to the betting odds. I'm just saying, I'm just
trying to change up my game and keep you guessing it.
Instead of five nine, you could have said he was
six seven six seven six. One of my kids will
come flying through the door and punch me. We're done
with six seven six seven still a face. It really isn't.

(27:48):
It's still it's not as big as it was, but
it's still exactly game you play with. Ralph No, No, No.
Six seven, six seven is still big. It's not quite
big in the high schools like it was, but now
it's trickled down to where in the middle school, in
the middle schools, in the kindergarten, it's still there. Yeah. See,

(28:08):
I thought it became an old man thing at this
point that the adults have it. Let's let's let it go.
Uh and it passes on. But for for Rogers, Look,
they've got sixty million dollars of salary cap space. They
got rid of John hu Smith. That's another seven and changed.
Today they've told everybody Pat Fryarmouth isn't going anywhere, so
now you begin the rebuild process. Uh. Last year Daniel

(28:31):
Jones signed for about the same money that Rogers did.
Now he's gonna get thirty eight point seven and he
may not be healthy for week one. Yeah, I think
if I'm Marrion Rodgers, I'm looking a ru gun. You
see what they just did for him, and and you
got Mike because you can't tell me he didn't have
some influence in bringing McCarthy in there, right right, So
it's everybody, uh, you know, washing each other's hands and

(28:55):
getting getting into the the mix here. I mean really,
I mean, he's gonna he's gonna get more money. He
knows is the end of his is earning power coming
off this. They need him more than they needed him
last year. Last year is Hey, let's see if we
can work out, help each other out. You work out
better than the other quarterbacksy had it did? Okay? Hey,
all right now nwa okay, but now you're gonna give

(29:16):
me a little bit more sea. I was half expecting
him to hold up the list of all the free
agent quarterbacks or me. Come on time now to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports. Someone
who's been called the Aaron Rodgers of Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
she goes on a darkness retreat every time the Clippers play.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, thank you, right there with Chris Brossard right in sync. Yeah,
I could use a darkness retreat every now and then.
It didn't hurt anybody, you know, a little I wastaka
doesn't hurt anybody.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
It's all good. It's all good.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
H In the NBA, guys, We've got one game going on.
It's at the half right now. Clippers will be starting
soon at into a Dome against the Pacers. Yes to
Dig Mather in his first game as a Clipper as
the Pacers come back. Also, Lou Lou a Zoo comes
back to La for the Clips, but that's about to
tip off right now. At halftime, the Bucks lead the

(30:11):
Hawks seventy one to sixty six. The games have wrapped
up that have wrapped up the Hornets. They've won six
in a row. They defeated the Celtics in Boston one
eighteen to eighty nine. The seventy six ers beat the
Jazz one six to one. Two Trailblazers over the Grizzlies
won twenty two to one fourteen. And there's one game
I'm missing. Oh that's right, the Knicks. They lost at
Madison Square Garden to the Thunder one oh three to

(30:33):
one hundred, and they had two chances to tie the game. Jason, Well, clearly,
what would you say after the game in the locker
room because they had two chances?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I would say, clearly the Thunder cheated at the end
and you guys should have won.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Okay, so you put a little a little star.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Next to the L.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, But for everybody else,
for everyone else that does not think there's.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
A star next to the l everyone else, I would say, Hey,
we'll see him again in the NBA final, Sae Manzi,
that's your stat category. You get to create games, right,
And what their record? Every time Frostbrook says something about
the Mets, I go, I'll see you in the NLCS.
I'll see you in the NBA Finals. If you get
past the Spurs, I'll see you in the finals.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
In men's college hoops, Northwestern also had an opportunity to
pull off the upset against Number fifteen per Due, but
some last minute turnovers did not work out for them.
Perdue survive seventy to sixty six. Right now halfway through
the second half, so about eleven minutes to go. Baylor
is up on number seven Houston fifty two forty six.

(31:32):
When it comes to the NHL late in the first period,
Hurricanes over Canucks one zero, Islanders and Ducks tied at
one apiece. Blues and Kraken also tied at one. The
Golden Knights already defeated the Red Wings four to three
in overtime, and the Devils took down the Maple Leafs
four to three in a shootout. The Maple Leafs have
lost six in a row. And also the World Baseball
Classic pool play has started out of pool see Chinese,

(31:55):
Taipei and Australia right now playing. This is the only
game on this Wednesday night.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
They are scoreless.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
It is the top of the third inning where Australia
is the home team. In the NFL AFC champion New
England Patriots are releasing four time Pro Bowl wide receiver
Stefan Diggs. The Steelers are releasing tight end John hus Smith,
saving seven million in salary cap space. The Chiefs are
trading all Pro cornerback Trent McDuffie to the Rams for
four draft picks, including a first rounder, while the Chargers

(32:24):
have released offensive lineman McKai, Becton and tight End will
disleep back to you, guys, thanks.

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don't really care because I'll see you in the NBA Finals.
SGA the Big Three to give the thunder enough cushion
to hold off the Knicks. That gets to be the
play of the day. I shut the door here.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
On the Knicks on the day.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Got the threat that. Okay, I don't think they actually
played the music during the broadcast. Here, come on, let's
hear that again. The NBA we talked about the organists
from MSG. Okay, that's trying to shut the door here on.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
The Knicks the day watch the three got the thread.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
That, folks, it's the Viking Battle remix. Wow, organists is
playing against the Knicks. Yeah sure, yeah, no, I'm telling
you it's dieta rule. He's in there learning. He was
learning how to play Narco and they were teaching him
at Madison Square. Guards. We knew how to play it.
When the season that's one of my favorite highlights ever.
That was really good. That's great the music. Uh so

(34:46):
I under twenty fourth straight twenty point game. Yeah, I
mean look MSG MSG on the call, MSG on the
call there, great game, look great game. Uh talked about
it earlier. It's fine again, We'll see you in the finals. Maybe.
I just like the after the turnaround three pointer and
it bounced off the grin out of saying like, ah,
I had it, I had my shot because he actually

(35:07):
probably could have set and taken a better So after
in a few minutes, I'm gonna beat Mike Carmen around
the head and then. But a big story out of
football today and this is you know, when I saw this,
I just said, boy incoming from you, jerks, you and
Frosburg in three two. According to a couple of media reports,

(35:29):
Microlo one of them, the New York Jets are doing
their homework onto a tongue of ila. Well, I won't
have to pay him the ninety nine A right. I mean,
he's going to get released at some point in the
next few days. Now. The big debate is whether or
not they're going to eat all the money or you know,
break it up over two years. But he's getting released

(35:50):
and the Jets are doing the homework onto a tongue
of I loa Okay, This is really pushing my I
can get excited about any quarterback philosophy to the limit
because the only homework you need to do is say
you've seen toa throw the football. You've seen the wins
at MetLife Stadium. It's gonna look like me throwing a
whiffle ball, Lefty him throwing the ball at Netlife. You

(36:12):
want Tua throwing the football at MetLife Stadium. Understand, that's
the only homework you need to do. Is that right there? Again? Put,
it's pushing me, Mike, it's pushing me. I want to
be positive out all the quarter because if Sam Darnold
can win, anybody can win. I want to be positive, man,
I want to want. I want to be excited when
when you send me that picture of two as a
jet with the sea on his jersey, like he's already

(36:33):
the captain. I want to be put. But this is
pushing it, man, This is put. Let's take the guy
with the weakest arm in the NFL and put him
in the most difficult place to throw the football. What
could possibly go wrong? You're just gonna have to be
pinpoint precision in terms of the timing routes, which is
what to a tongue of I looa is altogether. Go
back and listen to any of the Sunday mornings I
got to do with Greg Gosel This season just town again.

(36:56):
It's like if it's off off schedule or he's just
gotta wing it, it's into the wind. We watched it.
It's a problem. It is next level of potential chaos here?
Now is he backing up? Derek Carr? That's sorry. I
had decide to wipe there your reaction when I sent
you that picture. I can't even say it on the radio.
That is non FCZ compliant. We will lose our license

(37:19):
and Tysher will lose his job. You don't want to
do that, the little Alex Tyser the Jets offense, We're
gonna go deep on this play? What does that mean?
Seven yard out? Seven yard's timing better be right because
he's throwing it right there.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
How do I get season tickets?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
And I want to watch this? I want to be
puck because I told you there's places for two ago.
I told you we talked about stop. You put it
out there and it's happened to you and I'm getting
but you're only gonna have to pay him like two
or three million dollars doesn't because the Dolphins are gonna
pick up the rest it does, which gives you a
lot of money for other guys. So I try to
help him be better. So the best to way he

(37:57):
can be. You don't have to pay a guy who stinks,
which I guess is better than paying a guy. Yeah,
but it doesn't matter because it still means a guy's stakes. Yeah,
but you're gonna be able to say we got him
on the cheek. But when the and then next year
when you're drafting at the top of the draft, because
you will be look at you, Dante more don't be
waiting for you. Well look now, look there is a
silver lining to this story. But first I want to
say is that we talked about the best fit for Tua,

(38:19):
and we've talked about the two biggest things were getting
off the radar screen for a little while and getting
to a place that is weather friendly for him to
throw the football. That's why Minnesota works because he's off
the radar for a little bit and playing half his
games in a dome. That's what he needs. This is
the exact and total op This is, Hey, let's go

(38:40):
to a bigger pressure cooker, and let's put you in
a place where, yeah, you're just gonna throw flutterballs. Yeah,
but the Minnesota's cork. You see how angry people get
about anything related to JJ McCarthy. Flutterball he goes into
that head. You know what, that send him to Arizona.
Nobody cares about Arizona. The only silver lining is this,
and I'm being serious. Only silver lining is this is

(39:01):
you're really trying to get it, get you get? Is
getting this part of why getting excited about no normally
like gets. I could get excited about any quarterback because again,
if Sam Darnold can win the Super Bowl, lots of guys, guy, guy,
But that's not why I'm excited. That's why I'm excited.
Why are you My excitement is that if the Jets
signed to a that is going to maybe be their

(39:24):
best chance at drafting number one overall next year and
getting Arch Manning or Dante Moore or both of them,
because they could be that bad. Hey, we're gonna give
you the first two picks because you really need to
do something here. We can't have a New York team
be this bad for this long. So the one thing
getting to a Hey, I have no doubt. Well, Number one,
he'll throw every ball to Garrett Wilson if you haven't
been fantasy. Secondly, this is their best chance to tank

(39:48):
is getting to us. So there is that well, and
they also have a long storied history of left handed quarterbacks.
Let's go through the boomer asiasin Mark Brunell, Michael Vick
and say his name. Nope, say it, Nope, Nope, nope, nope,

(40:08):
your guy t Bow Nope. I remember being at training
camp watching that battle. I love it. Once they pulled
those cones away and let him just run prenetically side
to side and create chaos. He completed some passes inside
the cones, not so much. Maybe Tua can better that
effort here. I mean, that's all the homework you need
on to it. Really stretching my flub, really stretching my

(40:31):
positivity to the limit. Here, positivity Wednesday, Baby, come on now,
the Knicks almost won Exit out bout a Fresca exit
swollen dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. Coming up next after big news today,
the NFL team that everybody should be jealous of. Jason
and Mike fox or run as this should be the

(40:53):
blueprint of how to run a team in twenty twenty
six in the NFL, right because we looked at the
Chiefs for the longest time. Oh boy, the Chiefs are
run well. Okay, Andy Reid's a great coach, and you
have the best quarterback in the NFL. It's like, say, well,
look how well the Pages run. You had the best
quarterback in the NFL, You had a pretty good coach,
best quarterback in the Yeah, you had these things that
made it. And clearly we know that. Hey, the Patriots

(41:13):
real dynasty was way more because of Brady. Okay, the Chiefs, boy,
they win yet because they have Mahomes. But watching the
trade the Rams made today getting Trent McDuffie from the Chiefs, right,
all pro cornerback. They give up a package of draft picks,
number twenty nine pick this year, a couple of late
round picks as well, fifth and sixth round picks, a

(41:34):
third round pick next year. So the Chiefs do well
in the deal, don't get me wrong. You got a
first round pick, a third round pick, and a fifth
and a sixth you do Okay. Mahomes is shocked. He
put out damn on social media after seeing this, because
here's McDuffie going into the final year of his rookie
deal and looking for a big payday. Yeah, one of
their bat I mean obviously off the charts in terms

(41:55):
of his ability, attitude, and if you rank their players,
he's on the metal standard this point, right, I mean, look,
this is this is as good as you're gonna get. Right.
You're talking about a trade if for a late first
round pick, and you know the Rams have always been
f them picks, right, that's been their philosophy, And you
kind of knew this was coming.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Lesnied talked about it yesterday looking at the off season,
and he said, well, the first thing you always want
to look at to say, is there an All Pro
you can add? Hey, guess what, we just added an
All Pro player. In other words, he was nodding and
winking at you the whole time. Let's add an All
Pro player. And uh McDuffie, who we kind of knew
this might happen because he was asked previously in a podcast, hey,

(42:36):
if you're not playing for the Chiefs, where would you
like to play? And he was like, oh man, you're
gonna get me in trouble. But you know, I'm from
LA so maybe the Rams and the Ram just said,
all right, so when you're up and they're gonna pay you,
we're gonna trade for you. So should I will say, like,
this is a this is a fate of complete Like
at some point he's gonna be a rint. Was this
all broker before or after the third shrimp cocktail and

(42:57):
h extra drink? I want to play close to my family,
it would probably be the Rams so my family could
come see me every single game. Okay, Now this is
a few months ago when he was hosting a I
think he was at a doing a football camp in
Kansas City, and you know he gives that answer, so okay,
that's one of those clipings. Save Hey, all right, let's go.

(43:19):
This is why every team in the NFL, I am
I'm sure the Bears are, I am sure the Cowboys
are extremely jealous of the Rams and how they're able
to not just stay relevant every year, but be a
super Bowl caliber team every year. Now in twenty twenty six, right,
because you want to look back and say, well, we've

(43:40):
seen that before. Well, yeah, because the Patriots had Brady
for the better part of two decades. All right, When
you have that and your coach is the same, yeah,
you're gonna do pretty well. So I get the Patriots
dynasty also had the plays for a while ahead of time,
and the Chiefs, well, the Chiefs super Bowl third of
the Yeah, you have the same quarterback, right you had?
You have Patrick Mahomes who's the quarterback in the game.

(44:01):
And it reads a good ad coat. I understand that.
But this is the Rams who've been a yearly super
Bowl threat almost for a decade with different personnel. Year
two year they went to a super Bowl with Jared Goff.
They went to a super Bowl and won with Matthew Stafford.
They were nearly there again. This year, they were nearly
there again last year. Every year they find a way.

(44:21):
It's a volatile roster way to put the roster together
where it's we're gonna combine guys we drafted, and we're
gonna combine getting guys that maybe have worn out there
welcome someplace. We're okay with that. We'll get a little
bit of crazy. They were going the pass. Let's get
a little bit of crazy coming in. Now it's hey,
let's go out and get it all pro that the
Chiefs aren't gonna be able to afford because they need

(44:43):
to revamp this team in the next level and worry
about different things. They gotta pay for offense in the offseason.
They gotta do a lot of different things. So, yeah,
they can't pay this guy, so we're gonna go out
and get them. We don't care about our first round pick.
We just had an all pro cornerback for the price
of a guy we got into the first round, a
third and a fourth or fifth round. Yeah, I'm absolutely
fine with that. The way the Rams are able to

(45:04):
do this and do it so brazenly and not just
fade out because at some point I remember thinking, at
some point, the bill is coming due and the Rams
are gonna have to spend a year or two resetting.
They got to get out from bad money and they
have to get back to where they are. No, no, no,
we just continue to find a way every year to
roll one year into the next, and maybe it's one
or two years with the star player before they say, okay,

(45:25):
we're moving on. How many more years they're gonna have
DeVante Adams I don't know before they say, hey, we
got to move on from him. But that's what it
is they bring in lots of high profile guys to
fill whatever needs they are. After a couple of years,
they're gone and somehow we can bring in somebody else
replace them. Now, when you combine that with, hey, we
get a draft pick that after a couple of years,
this guy hits right. Took a couple of years, but
guess what they hit it with Blake Coorm. So now

(45:46):
it's not just Kyen Williams, but it's Kien Williams and
Blake korm that's at the head of that running game.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Koran was even the more valuable running back the back
half of the season this year than Kien Williams was
when you were like, Okay, well, this guy's terrific. They
have been able to not just av valuate the talent
the right way, getting guys deeper in the draft, bringing
in star players, turning them over from year to year.
And that's the big thing is that the turnover. They
keep rolling sevens because eventually you'd say, okay, with a

(46:13):
turnover one year, AT's not gonna work. Right, what you
try to do, the pieces you tried to fit at
doesn't work. We'll get back it again next year. Nope.
Every year super Bowl threat, whether it's Matthew Stafford, whether
it's Jared Goff, whether it's Matthew Stafford at the age
of thirty seven having an MVP type season. We're gonna
we find Pooka Nakua in the draft. Guess what, He's fantastic.
We don't need Cooper Cup anymore. The way the Rams

(46:36):
do it, I'm so incredibly jealous that they do it
better than anybody else in the NFL. I don't know
how they do it, how they keep going different money.
We're gonna spend all of like there's a salary cap
and there's a but they make it work every single year. Well,
but it goes to the larger league conversation we have
and we do this and certainly in baseball right when
everybody does their belly aching about how the Dodgers operate. Sure,

(46:59):
the fact that you've got seemingly an unlimited bank roll
allows you to make mistakes. It allows you to hold
guys out a bit longer if they need to come
back off an injury. There are advantages to it, no doubt,
but you still need to be able to evaluate players
that have been discarded from other organizations, players that you
see a fit for how you run your offense or defense.

(47:21):
Now for the Rams, you've now hit a point with continuity,
and that's the key word to all of this. You
mentioned New England, you mentioned Kansas City, Well, you got
the same front office, You've got the same coach, the
same quarterback in all of those. In this case, yeah,
you had the year of Jared Goff, but you decided
you were done with him and you moved on and

(47:41):
McVeigh and he had to have their you know whatever,
maya kopa, how that was handled whatever over time. But
they've had the mini hiccups of waiting with baited breath
as to whether McVeigh was gonna leave, whether Matthew Stafford
was available. I still want more information on the back
end versus yeah, I'm just not coming to camp. Figure

(48:02):
it out kind of thing. As he goes out and
has an MVP season. But the draft analysis and the
way they've been able to make the most out of
that go back less. Sneave was hired in twenty twelve,
and I remember you and I doing shows here locally
in Los Angeles, and when McVeigh got hired, just the
questions of Wow, it's gutsy and it's gonna either flame

(48:25):
out or this guy's truly gonna be the wonder kid
as you and I just keep referencing Ted Lasso left
and right. So here you have that opportunity, and you've
watched McVeigh at year after year show that acumen, and
they've drafted very well. They've picked players off the scrap
heap like Kansas City had done, like New England had done.
Think about those guys at the end of their runs,

(48:47):
Corey Dillon and all those guys that showed up in
New England at the end. But you needed that base
and consistency, and most teams are not patient enough to
do that, right Leaven the Bears right now, they've got
to go and scramble after their center says I'm leaving,
I'm taking my money and going, Okay, we thought that
we had that nailed down all right, next pivot And
they're only in year two of a regime. You're hopeful

(49:10):
that you're building off of what happened last year, but
you have no idea. And I guess go back two
years to the trade that brought Calyb Williams. But I
guess the larger point is patience because when it doesn't
look like it's working. Because Blake Corn was a guy
people were ready to discover a couple of years hasn't
worked OUTCAU Usually running backs you see it right away,
because if you have a little bit of vision, you're

(49:32):
able to come into the league and do it. Like
when you're a great athlete coming out of college. We
see it right away. Edge Rusher's running backs. Hey little
bit of vision, this was say, but we didn't see it,
Blake CRM Okay, well they missed on him. Nope, Nope,
just had to wait a little bit and look at
Blake Corn a little bit of time wanting to take
a little bit of the workload away to make sure
Kirin Williams was ready for the stretcher on at BAM.

(49:53):
Now you have a two headed monster moving forward. Williams
is on a pretty cheap deal relatively speaking, for his
production these next couple of years in Korum, still on
that rookie deal. So you get to go back into
the marketplace like this and make make a play for
Kansas City. Now it becomes really interesting. They've got the
twelfth most money to spend after renegotiating and reconstituting a

(50:14):
bunch of these deals. But their level of need is
huge for the rams they got as long as Stafford
and McVeigh want to run this out. Now, this goes
to the other part of what I've said for a
long time, Jet Steak, get it. Well, No, that's that's
been forty five years. The flip side of it is
what I say, get the Chiefs last year because this

(50:34):
offseason is gonna be incredibly aggressive. They're gonna go big offensively.
It's gonna be a new number one receiver, gonna be
a star number one receiver, a star number one running back.
They're going out spending money and look what they're doing. Hey,
we're not paying this defensive player because watch what we
do on offense, because they know, Hey, we need to.
We need to. We can't keep running it back with
these weapons what we have. We have to help Patrick

(50:55):
Mahomes out a little bit more. We tried for a
few years with get by guys. It didn't work. Who
knows it for she Rice is gonna play for us again.
Who knows if Xavier Worthy is really any more than
a gadget guy. So we gotta go out and I
told you watch how aggressive they are once free agency begins.
Number one stud receiver, number one stud running back, and
I guarantee you they will also add a tight end

(51:17):
because there's plenty of good tight ends available, and they're
just gonna say, listen, come in one year, year behind
Travis Kelcey, and you're gonna play a lot. Don't worry
because Travis is near the end, and next year it's
your job. David and Joker will say, I'll sign up
for that. So many free that's such a rich position
in free agency, so many guys say, yeah, I'll go
there for a year, split time with Travis Kelcey and

(51:38):
then and then take over for the back half of Mahomes' career. Yeah,
I'm there. Watch what they add on offense this offseason.
They're clearing the decks for it. Well, we went through
the best and deepest positions in free agency skill position.
Of course, for the sake of the conversation, we'll do
interior alignment another time. But the tight end position already

(51:58):
had ten plus in terms of free agents that could
come in and be a pass catcher. And then, as
we discussed last hour, Pittsburgh is letting Johnny Smith back
into the two years ago for two he caught eighty
four balls. You don't think that adds something to do
with the malfunction of that offense this year down from
Mike McDaniel and company. Hey, what happened You got rid

(52:20):
of that guy that lived over the middle. Oh okay,
they'll get a stud number one. And I don't mean
like they'll get number one receiver, like they'll they'll make
a move. They'll get a stud number one stud running back.
Try because you go and free agency go well, okay,
Alec Pierce tho Alec Pierce is in a stud When
Alec Pierce is your best wide receiver out there, Okay,
you gotta make a move. You got But they're gonna

(52:41):
they're freeing up money to get somebody that there. Maybe
it's an AJ Brown type trade to bet, Hey, we
have the money for you. It's already so we know
your contract. You're good coming in. You're gonna fit well
with what we're doing here offensively with Patrick telling you, man,
that's why you had to get them last year, because
it's gonna be a whole new thing for them this year.
Let's go AFC West. Let's light it up, Come Come on, Exit, Olbouta, Fresca, Exit,

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