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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Go New, Your.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Go, Go New, Your Go, It's in everything. Greetings, Welcome
inside the Jason Smith Show with the Big Dog Ryan
Hollins getting the full Nicks experience tonight in for Mike Carmon,
what's happening, dude? How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
What is going on? Brother? I'm doing great, but I
don't know if I'm doing as good as you.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You are not nearly doing it as well as I
am right now, not nearly as well. Now, come on,
after closing that out to zimp oh, come on, man, really,
it's it's been some kind of run. And so this
shows you how fast the NBA playoffs stand like you
just go back a week and a half ago where
I'm like, man, the Knicks are two games away from
blowing this roster up. They're gonna lose to CJ. McCollum

(01:21):
and Jonathan Kaminga and now all of a sudden, it's well,
it looks like they should be in the NBA Finals.
Like that's how fast the NBA playoff changes on a dime.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I was actually telling Brendan Haywood that, and he didn't
want to hear it, and he was like, Celtic, Celtic, Celtics,
and and you had to fill Celtics because they got
Tatum back. But I said, the Knicks put a number
on the Celtics last year, even if they did advance.
And the Knicks have been in these situations before. They
are a clutch team. They know themselves. And every game

(01:52):
you get further into the playoffs, you need that experience,
someone who's been there before, the clutch factors, all these
things play a part. So I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
But how confident are you in the Knicks? Man? Man?
I know it, take your fan hat off, but how
confident are you in them? Coming out of the East

(02:12):
all right now?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
With a two to nothing lead, they beat the Sixers
one oh two, a close game, they pull away late.
The Nick now tonight was it. You know, look, I
thought they were gonna win every game by fifty, right,
because that's what they were doing, right, The Knicks just
win every game by fifty points. That's what's gonna happen
the rest of the set. It is the Eastern Conference,
they're gonna win every game by fifty. But the last
week or so, and really you want to see building

(02:35):
towards this the last month of the regular season. Defensively,
the Knicks really got it together, and you could tell
at some point in the first round against the Hawks,
their chemistry level hit a new level, Like all of
a sudden, they look like they knew where everybody was. They,
you know, Karl Anthony Townsend, a new level of confidence.
They looked like they were really having fun with each other.

(02:56):
There wasn't any more square peg round hole boy. Every
other game, Kat's gonna have a good game. Then he's
gonna have a game where tonight where he gets in
foul trouble in the first eight minutes and commits three
fouls like something happen. You can see teams they kind
of flip a switch, and sometimes it's a slow switch,
sometimes the fast switch. Sometimes maybe for the knickt case.
They just needed to get to the playoffs because they'd

(03:18):
been had deep runs the last three years and going
through all kinds of heartache and big wins and big losses.
But the way they've won in the last couple of weeks,
not only are they blowing teams out, now they find
a way to come from behind and win and find
the hot hand. And un Nobi was terrific tonight, Brunson
hitting the big jumpers down the stretch when they need
the big bucket. Brunson is there, Like if you're the

(03:41):
Sixers right now, you're saying, Okay, we had game one,
we were red hot, right, We're gonna try to make
Joel embiid the guy, right and that turned out to
be the bad strategy because edgecumb and Maxie couldn't really
get in the game. All right, Well, no Joel Embi Tonight,
Game two is gonna be different, and Maxi took over
the beginning of the game, and you're saying, Okay, this
may be a blessing in disguise for the Sixers because

(04:03):
now they got the younger players involved and this is
what they need to do. And they're walking out of
MSG with two losses, Like, I don't know where you
go if you're the Sixers now and think things are
gonna change just because we're going home. Like the Knicks
are no longer having the end of games come back
to haunt them like they did in the playoffs last year,
like we've seen the times now they are finishing all
the games. They are finishing games in the third quarter.

(04:25):
Like you talk about teams that have hit the next level,
like the Timberwolves, I look at as a team that's
hit the next level in the last month or so,
and the Knicks have hit the next level.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, no, I agree. And you know a lot of
times outside of that fifty point blowout, like these games
are decided by five or fewer points in New York,
probably outside of Oklahoma City is the team that can
step out and grind with you and execute. And you know,

(04:54):
everybody lost their mind when when Brunson, you know, he
was picked on Atlanta. You know CJ. McCollum found them,
he picked on them, and he really really struggled to guard.
Now in the playoffs, it's chest not checkers. So you
know as well as I know that that Mike Brown
and I played for Mike Brown. We did Team USA

(05:15):
stuff the Pan American games. Mike Brown is gonna go
out and fix the game plan, you know, and you
don't want to show your hand in a seven game
series in game one or two, and the Knicks didn't.
So I think it's intriguing that Mike Brown is playing
the chess match and he's waiting until, Hey, we don't

(05:37):
need to pull this out until game five or six
or seven. And you know, you guys have in a
sense conceited things. And I think what stands out. I
want to know your thoughts on this is what stands
out even more. And I wanted to sustainability, but Kat
is now this facilitating Carl Anthony Towns. He's got the
ball in his hands at the top of the key,
and he's tasked with getting his teammates involved. And he's

(06:00):
a guy that we got to credit Mike Brown a
lot of times in the playoffs. He's trying to post
up or say, well, cat, you got a small guy
on you. You know you're not posting up, you're not getting
to the rim and creating contact. But you're trusting him
on the perimeter, letting him make plays. And now I
think the focus of his scoring has come off of him,

(06:21):
and the pressure on Karl Anthony Towns has in a
sense gone away.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
All right, now, before we get to cat, I want
to go back to something you bury the lead there.
You know, Mike Brown. You can give me his phone
number so I can text him.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I I technically could. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
That means you can. Don't do it right, That means
you can. No, It's all positive, man, be all positive.
It's gonna be all positive with Mike Brown. It's not
gonna be negative at all. We're up to zip. I
mean that we all positive.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
What if there is like a night where things don't
go bad and your emotions get the best of you.
I wouldn't want Coach Brown to be getting you know,
a random voice bested from you.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
No, No, I'm not gonna call him. I'm gonna text them.
I mean, I'm not gonna look.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Is it bad?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Stage five?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But listen, either Ryan always known each other for so long,
Either you trust me or you don't. At this point,
I mean, I'm a professional. I mean if I'm saying mean,
I mean that big dog. This is me, man, this
is me telling you if you can get if you
can give me Mike Brown's number. It's it's all positive,
it's all right.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Now, Okay, let's play this out.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And you know, giving me the number that you tell
me is his, but it's really you. It's really I
can get a burner phone and not pretending like people
think I'm talking with Mike Brown, but I'm really talking
with you.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
All right, let's play this out then, Okay, I give
you Mike Brown's number, right, Yeah, Your your first text
to Mike Brown is what go? Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
My first text is go New York, Go, New York, Go,
go New York, New York Go. That's my first text.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Who is this or it doesn't reply at all?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And then I write that it's Chalomy. That's what I
would say. Yeah, yeah, I'd say it's Schaalome. Sure.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
My first text we go New York or New York go.
My next text would be, hey, exactly what I thought
when you got hired a year ago. This is where
I thought we would be, because it's where it's absolutely where.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I thought they would. When were you guys down two
to one or three one? Now, when you guys were
down and let's say give you the number, then what
would your first.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Text ooh, we're down to one to the caves. It
would be dude, Steve Kirk getting stuff couldn't get stuff
out of Kaminga and he looks like an all star.
What is going on right there?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
CJ.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
McCollum is forty five years old? How are you losing
to two guys? By the way, this is Ryan Hollins.
That would be my text. That's an interview right there.
Oh my goodness. What if this? What if you give
me his number and I send him the positive text
and I promise you I delete it for the negative stuff?

(08:48):
Number one? Would you believe me? Number two? Would that
be okay?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I think that you know, I've heard from many credible
sources that when the Knicks were up fifty, you got
pretty obnoxious in the office. I mean things just spilled over.
I mean like it got it got. I don't know
at this moment which you're emotional emotional abilities? What do

(09:12):
they what do they call it emotional charity?

Speaker 4 (09:14):
What?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I don't know why you're sure if you're in the
right place right now to have Mike's number?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
No, I mean, look, I'm gonna put it on so
I'm gonna put it on social media as a poll.
How about this We put it on as a poll
and then depending what the people say, because I know
people that will vote for me, depending what the people say,
that'll be the answer.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
No, what do you mean? No, you could throw the
poll up, but no, what do you mean? No? What
do you mean?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I like, I like having access to coach. I don't
want to force them to change his number.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
It would be it would be fine, would have to change.
Like I said, it's all Look, the Knicks are going
to the finals, so it's gonna be all positive.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Okay, what if what if we settle? Like what if
I find you like in an intern or you know,
like like someone in the media set up.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Let's way up to Mike Brown.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Mister Dolan, who is this guy texting me? His name
is on the radio, his name is Jason. I don't
want to text him anymore, mister Dolan. See if he'll
buy tickets to my next concert, then you can text
him back.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
All right, mister Dolan, All right, I.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Think we could do.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I think I think that works. I think that works. Okay,
all right, all right, here here's the thing, here's the
thing beginning of the show. I'll work I'm gonna work
on you all night, Like you think this is, this
is gonna be like hey, when when when when? When
you're you know, your your defensive assignment is shack and
it's gonna be okay early, I'm feeling good. But then
you're gonna get worn down over the course. I'm gonna

(10:38):
wear you down over the course of the night. I'm
gonna have Mike Brown's number. I'm gonna, in fact, I'm
gonna have everybody in your phone's phone number by the
end of the night to night that is even remotely
connected to the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Oh my gosh, oh.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It is, it is. But your point on Karl Anthony
Towns right, just to get back to that, because this
is part what I would say as well. You know
the thing about Kat and watching him, he's he's definitely
a body language and a vibe kind of guy. When
things are going well, you know it, right, you could
tell it from him. He makes those heat check passes.

(11:15):
I'm like, why is he trying to throw that ball
through five guys you know, down down to og under
the But I'm okay with that because that tells me
for he goes, he's feeling it. He's in the game
and I get it. And for the longest time, it
was always man, he's supposed to be the one a.
He's got to be twenty four and ten every night.
But really, the crazy thing is that the Knicks have

(11:36):
found he doesn't need to be that guy. He just
he needs to be the guy that we can they
can run the offense through at times, and it doesn't
need to be always Jalen Brunson to give them a
different look. And now that he can be that facilitator
as well, like that's the peak Karl Anthony Towns and
it's different from just what we thought it had to be, was, well,
he's gotta be twenty four intel, he's gotta be that guy.
He's gotta be a guy. Gotta be guy could dump

(11:57):
the ball down too low, they can take the pressure
off brunts and And instead they found that if he's
a facilitator, it's okay. If he's out behind the ark
as much as he is taking threes, taking the heat
check threes that he takes, he's okay because running the
offense through him and being that different kind of big
has turned out to be exactly what the Knicks needed.
And I'll admit I didn't think that was I didn't

(12:18):
think that was what they need. I didn't think that
was something that was a solution. But it turns out
that now that they've gone to that, that's exactly what
they need.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
And in Kat's defense, it is hard in the playoffs.
You're not gonna just get on the block in post
guys up, they're too smart. They're gonna double team. They
get away with grabbing and holding like you're just not
gonna be able to do that. Now. In fairness, if
you do have a small guy on you, you've got to
punish him to the boards. And I think that's where

(12:48):
the heavy criticism of Cat was. But again, when he
can facilitate Brunson's so skilled, he can play on and
off the ball, and what you do, like you said,
body language, so you get him involved. I think Mike
Brown has done a great job, even though it seems
like about a week ago otherwise.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, but it's good that we're doing the show tonight.
So now you can give me his number and it's positive.
And look, if you want to give me his number
and you need five minutes to call him and say hey,
just so you know, Jason Smith's gonna call you. He's
gonna you know, he's gonna say he's oh my god,
Jason Smith. He's gonna bet Knicks fans. He's gonna yeah,
Oh absolutely, he's great man, He's awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
He's the first guy that said last year when the
Knicks fired TIBs, that Mike Brown's the guy. You go back,
you go, you go back, big dog.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I'll find it on social media when they fired TIBs,
I said, Mike Brown is the guy. You're talking about,
someone who was the coach of the Year with Sacramento.
He won there defensively. He's gonna get them to a
point where they're responsible enough. Mike Brown is the guy.
And it took a little bit longer than expected, but
I don't think anybody can argue with where the Knicks
are right now. They're the favorites in the East, the
three seed. They have the least amount of problems of

(13:54):
any other team in the Eastern Conference, right which which
is something to be said. That's the least amount of
problems knock Wood and so so. Yeah, I think this
is exactly where everything was supposed to be a year ago,
and here we are.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
What in your opinion, is the biggest difference with this team.
And you know, like Tibbs is obviously he's physical, he's tough,
he's not gonna, you know, dig into his bench at
all and was extremely effective. And Mike from his time,
so when Mike was coaching with Cleveland, he's more defensive minded,

(14:27):
you know, extremely thorough, amazing guy, long shoot arounds. And
when he won the championship there with Golden State, it
looked like he got more offensive minded. And then when
he coached the Kings, they were flying up and down
the floor, they played fast. He did a heck of
a job over there. And unfortunately Mike just seems like
those coaches that he just gets a raw deal. What

(14:51):
is your opinion, as you've seen from him, the difference
from with Tibbs and with Mike Brown with this group.
And I'm putting you on the hot seat. You know,
don't act like if you answer well that this is
gonna change my opinion.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
No, no, no, I'll give you a quick one. I'll
give you a quick drop the mic one.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
So the Knicks, you know, being up in Game one
against the Sixers, are up by thirty points, Okay, most
of the fourth quarter was colec a Porty, you know,
Nick Bride. It was all the Knicks played their bench.
Here's the difference, right, if Tims was coaching the team,
Brunson and Towns and Og and Hart would still be

(15:30):
in that game with three minutes left to go up thirty.
But Mike Brown knows I can't kill these guys, so yeah,
I gotta trust it. It's twenty We're up by twenty
five points. We're gonna keep this lead. It's okay. That's
the first thing is that Brunson at dead. They would
have all been in that game if Tims was coaching,
and right Brown had him on the sideline getting rest.
That's the number one difference, right there. Is that enough

(15:50):
to get the phone call? Is that enough? Is that enough?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Not quite?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in from my Carmon. We got
more on the nixt win tonight. We'll have the big
Game two between the Spurs and the Tea Wolves, and
big news out of the NBA, the Celtics the Lakers.
Keep it right here. Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins, Fox Sports Radio.

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on social media. Ryan, I gotta tell you. Everybody says
you should give me Mike brown cell phone number. Everybody
says it.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Everybody some one said that it's one four.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Tell me the truth, Tell me the truth. How much
are you regretting telling me ten minutes ago you played
for Mike Brown? You know, how about regretting saying that?
Right now?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I mean you you can kind of put things together.
I mean, you know that I know somebody that knows somebody. Right,
that's why we that's why we have fun on the show,
and we we we have some some substance here.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, I mean like like I didn't even ask, Like
I didn't even think about it until now, Like, can
you get me Brunson's number in towns and o G
I mean, or Anne Hathaway like I mean, and I'll
call any of them. Sure.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Now we're stretching there, We're okay there, okay, all right?
You know, no Mike is it. He's a good guy.
He's one of the good guys in our business.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah. No, Notice how no one has talked in the
last I mean, how long has it been since people
are saying oh Man tibbs, if they kept TIBs that,
no one's saying that. No one is saying that, well, it's.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's it stinks because as soon as there's just a
single loss or a bad loss, that that's the first
thing that's gonna pop up with the Nicks. And I
swear for coaches, it is the toughest position in sports,
Like you can do nothing wrong, you can have your
most successful year, and you can be fired. It happens consistently.

(19:04):
So I don't end the NBA coaches in their their
job security. That is a tough go.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
So again, we'll have more Nicks on the way because
you know, go to New York. But right now, nightcap,
it has been all Spurs so far, early in the
second quarter thirty three, twenty four. And you know I
said this going it shows you how hot I am
right now, right, I mean the Knicks, I'm hot. I
said going into game two, this is going to be
a pissed Wemby And you know he's already mad. You know,

(19:32):
he talked about I didn't get the right energy in
the right places offensively in Game one, and he was
terrible offensively, even though he had a near quadruple double
with twelve blocks, oh for eight from three point range.
You know, Wemby's got to lead the way I said.
You watch the He's gonna have a historical incredible stat
line in Game two and so far for Wemby. Tonight again,
we are early in the second quarter. Victor wembin Yama

(19:56):
eleven points, six rebounds, and an assist. He is five
out of seven from the floor. Yeah, but how many goaltendings.
Uh I got to ask Chris Finch, ask Chris Finch
about the Goltenans, ask him that, uh so here he
is already saying okay, you know, and I kind of
like that because the one question that we had about
Wemby was when he comes into the league like he's

(20:17):
a unicornant and watching him is just I mean, he's
the face of the league. He's the guy that brings
a skill set and don't want to watch what he
does more than anybody else. And I see him and
I go, man, yeah, he's such a nice guy, right
all he talks about but he's starting that You could
see that mean streaks that he's got, that that NBA
on court mean streak, and you can tell that he

(20:37):
was pissed after game one, and he came into tonight
with an agenda for game two.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, he's got the proper mentality. And for me watching Wemby,
I think what impressed me most this season is that
maybe offensively, because of his lack of strength, he's not
where he's ultimately going to be, but his mindset was there,
and he absolutely plays basketball. So if he's got a

(21:02):
sacrifice and just block shots and run the floor and
or space up or let one of his teammates dominate, like,
he doesn't mind doing that. And they've got Darren Fox,
they've got Devin Vassell, like, they have guys that can
go score the basketball. So for him, his ability to
impact the game and wanting to win and playing winning basketball.
He didn't play winning basketball last season, this year playing

(21:24):
winning basketball, adding the physicality, and then like how much
he cares. Like he cares so much it's impressive, and
in some means it's scary because you're going like, where
is the ceiling for this guy? And a lot of
times at what nineteen twenty years old, not sure how
young he is, but you're not thinking like that, Like

(21:46):
he's thinking different. His mind is on another planet.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
When you watch him play the other night, were there
a lot of blocks that could have been goaltends? Was
this Chris Finch just gamesman shipping in or were there
a few out there? You said, oh, okay, Wenby's getting
some reputation calls.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Oh no, they were significant goaltends and pals that weren't called. Right.
But but the the defensive player of the year, he
gets those knots okay. And I'll give you this because
this is tough for the referees. Right when they see plays,
they watch film like players, and it happens so fast
they have to anticipate. So for like our guy alp right,

(22:24):
when our Primm goes for a block and he gets
to block, the referees like, goaltend, there's no way you
jump that high. And then they might go back and
look at me like, wow, he actually got there. We'll
give him some credit. But with Wimby, he was guilty
in the in the right way, and they're like, yeah,
he normally blocks that he can get there, and the
referees have to adjust also, So absolutely, a couple of fouls,

(22:45):
a couple of goaltends, a couple couple of plays, but
those are reputation blocks. We'll call that.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Because I because I get it right, I get that
part of it. It's just so weird to me that, Okay,
Chris Finch just won. They just won, and he's now
he's coming out with ah now, Like I don't know
if he was kind of feeling it like it was
a heat check for him postgame, like we just won
something to heat check Wenby's blocks. But I feel like
that that's something when things don't go your way and

(23:12):
you need a change, Like that's almost a thing I
would expect him to say, I gotta save that. I
want to save that for when we're coming off a
loss or something happens, and you know, if we're if
they win to tie it at one, that's when I say, hey,
his blocks are goaltends. I can go back to game
one and show you that. Like like Rick Carliles has
been a master at that, Like whatever he's wanted to

(23:32):
say throughout his career, he always finds a way to
fire that bullet at the right time. Right we're down
to Zip going home. When he says stuff like well,
I hope that the NBA referees don't want to continue
to reward the big market teams like New York over
the smaller market teams like you know, when to fire
that bullet. And I thought Chris Finch doing that after
Game one, I thought, Oh, is that really when you
want to do that or do you want to save

(23:53):
that for a moment where Okay, we need that in
this series and maybe we get it for the next
game when we need a.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
W Well, you know, these calls are pretty apparent, and
I think the referees just didn't look for it the
right way. So in this instance, I hear what you're saying.
Different scenario, though, it could be that pivotal and what
the referees and the league is gonna do now they're
gonna draw attention to him blocking shots and goaltens that
probably were missed or fouls that were missed, you know,

(24:21):
so it will be something to be addressed because again,
by reputation, they were probably gonna let them keep getting
away with it. They were gonna let it happen. So
now it's gonna be you know, a poe for the referees,
a point of emphasis.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
All right, all right, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins, Fox Sports Radio.
We'll have more on this game coming up. Again thirty six,
twenty four Spurs with the lead over the Tea Wolves
midway through the second quarter. Now, big drama today. We've
been hearing reports the last couple of days with how
much you believe them. You know, Tracy mcgrady's saying that, Hey,
Jalen Brown's frustrated with Boston. We've heard about the frustration.

(24:59):
We saw him talking looking about his frustration with the officials. Hey,
you know, embad's getting the calls. We're not. Boston goes
out in the first round. And this is not a
run it back situation where if you're Boston you can say, well,
we didn't have Tatum all year, we underachieved, and now
we just have to be healthy for next year. No,
you were really good. You finished second in the Eastern Conference,

(25:20):
and you got Jason Tatum back at the perfect time,
and you blew a three to one lead to Philadelphia
and now you're home. And now, not only do I
think they need big changes, but seeing this Ryan, maybe
stuff is a little bit overblown, but there's a lot
of smoke with the happiness level of Jalen Brown and
Jason Tatum and where both of them are at. And

(25:40):
I don't know that Boston to get I'll give you
a hot take here. I don't know that Boston looking
forward saying how do we retoo? We won the championship,
but we can't just keep keep bringing back the next team.
You've seen they have some deficiencies on their rocks. They
got they need they got enough. They need another big
that can that can be able to bang with the
big guys in the East. Right, you need some more depth.
You need guys that can hit threes. Not just shoot threes,

(26:02):
but you need guys that can make threes. Right the
Boston loves to take threes. You need guys that can
make them. At some point, I don't know that the
best thing for Boston in the offseason, we might not
see it, is that instead of building around Tatum and Brown,
it's they're building around Tatum or Brown and one of
those guys gets traded. Whether it's Jason Tatum saying, hey,
this is my team. If you're not gonna make it

(26:22):
my team, maybe I go someplace else, or if there's
a lot of fire to that smoke that Jalen Brown's
unhappy in Boston, you had to have Brad Stevens come
out to today and say, hey, no, everybody loves Jalen,
We loved you. Everything is great. I don't know if
the best thing for Boston isn't hey build around one
of those guys and bring back what you need for
this next level of Boston to continue to compete in
the East.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't think that's the challenge. And obviously it's always
hard to evaluate, because you could really argue that if
Jason Tatum was healthy, they would advance and possibly advanced
out of the East. He's that valuable. But I don't
think there's there's a chance now. Optimistically for opposing teams,

(27:04):
they're gonna say there's a chance, or hey, why don't
you move on? And I think, you know that's what
you know, everyone's kind of poking at like, hey, maybe
this doesn't work out, this doesn't work out, but those
guys are probably gonna be Celtics their entire career. It
would be hard to see unless free agency comes up
and you know, they don't sign extensions. But even now,

(27:25):
you know this, like you know, a year or two
essentially in advance, because they're already letting you know, I'm
not gonna sign an extension now when those talks come
then you could see something, but I don't think there's
a chance, and especially not with the year that Jab
has had. And again, when it's a matter of health
and time, those moves aren't made. You kind of have

(27:47):
to deal what you have to deal with. And I
think Boston already knew coming into the season this wasn't
gonna be a championship year. Obviously, Jason Tatum getting back
and playing a lot sooner got everybody excited, but as
an organization, they knew that they had to cut Colls,
they had to trade away. You know, their main player
prizingis holiday and move forward. And again they were extremely successful,

(28:13):
but the mindset was not a championship year here. And
I think to answer your question, normally you need two
dominant wings because then they'll be going. Jason Zatam and
Jaylen Brown will be going. Even though we're not a
perfect fit. Man, we need help. If I had another
guy just to help me out, you know this would
work out here. So I don't think that you let

(28:35):
either of those guys walk.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
See doesn't Jalen Brown's happiness level or the possibility you're
trading him at his highest level right because he's not
going to have the year he had next year, because
now he's going to be splitting things with Tatum again,
whereas he was able to be the guy this year.
And hey, okay, things are going well, but playoffs come
and you saw that. Okay, we're not constructed to be
a championship team anymore. I don't know where you go

(28:56):
and get all that depth unless you're saying, okay, well,
we'll sacrifice one of these guys to bring back the
two or three pieces that we need and money that
we can spend someplace else to go get a big
that we need or a guy that you know, or
another three and D guy that can actually hit threes. Like,
I don't know that. If you're the Celtics, you're not
stuck at that point, because where do you go, Like

(29:17):
do you have the money to go and and go
bring in the two or three big time players that
you need to just say free agency? I don't know
those guys are out there, whereas you know a Jalen
Brown or a Jason Tatum. Okay, hey yeah, we're okay,
building around. We want a guy to build around, and
we've seen this and Jason Jalen Brown looks like he
might be unhappy in Boston because these stories don't just
come out of nowhere. I look at when you when

(29:39):
you have to put all of that in the hoppera
and think about it. I look at that and go,
that might be the solution at the end, when it's
all said and done, Man, that might be the solution.
Maybe it's you coming out of retirement to play for
the Celtics. That could be it.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Man, it's a reality. Even from the front office standpoint,
I understand your logic. Guy's playing well, they have their
highest value, you know, trade him and get the most back.
Your fan base would never forgive you. So that's the
reason that a lot of those deals do not and
will not likely ever happen. Your fan base would absolutely

(30:13):
roll over and it wouldn't work unless if you're trading
him and you get a guy of a higher caliber
and or higher production or pretty spot on like is Older.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
You're trying to win now and keep this window open
where you're at right.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Now, No, because you're sacrificing your future. And then if
Na gets gets hurt, the young fella's ball and say,
you know, Dalen Brown is balling, They're not gonna forgive you.
It would have to be a comparable player. Uh yeah,
I don't know. I can't think. I mean like like
you're literally trading up like it means, oh, you're getting
sg A. Okay, we get it. Jaylen Brown can go

(30:54):
like like that's that's what's that's what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Hey, why don't we trade s g A and get
White Tree Jaylen Brown for USh?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yes, because the South the Thunder will do that. I
love those fans say that. I love that.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yes, So that's why it's not happening. Or you're like, well,
you know you were good with your depth, so get
some depth. No, your fan base ain't forgiving you. It
doesn't work. So a lot of times, unless players are
vocally disgruntled asking for trades, you know you're not gonna

(31:25):
do that. That's not gonna happen because it would be
pretty irreparable. And if you saw essentially probably even more
so not with what happened in Dallas, it ain't. It
really ain't happening. That's not a trend that I think
will be seeing.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Exit. How about a Fresca X at the Ryan Hollins
The Jason Smith Show with a big Dog in for
Mike harmon, so on opposite sides of that. But someone
who's not on opposite sides of anything, because she knows
how good the Knicks are. It's breamure. She's got what's
trending right now in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I do know how good the Knicks are, Mike am
I mckel bridges should be here next week.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh good, a T shirt you ordered the Knicks mcalbridges jerseys.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, it's like a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
You got a jersey?

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, okay, jersey yeah. So we were talking about how
cute the jerseys were earlier today. So I just bit
the bullet and I did it. Jason, So you're welcome,
very nice.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
If we start losing, then you're throwing that shirt out.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
We're burning just kidding, We're just kidding, all right, guys.
The Spurs are on top of the Temberwolves forty four
to thirty, four and a half minutes left to go
in the second quarter. Right now, Julius Randall has eight points.
Anthony Edwards has three points. He didn't start the game
and he is on a slight minutes restriction, according to
Chris Finch. Earlier, the Knicks took a two to oh
series lead over the seventy six ers with a one

(32:40):
oh eight, one oh two victory. Jalen Brunson led the
way for New York with twenty six points and six assists.
Carl Anthony Towns twenty points and ten rebounds at his
fifth double double in eight postseason games. In the NHL Playoff,
Sabers took Game one with a four to two victory
over the Canadians. And right now, I think it's still

(33:01):
scoreless between the Ducks and Golden Knights, just ending the
first period there in Vegas. In baseball, Aaron Judge his
fifteenth home run of the season, and he's now and
leading the league, but the Yankees fell to the Rangers
six to one. Pete Alonzo hit a three run homer
as Orioles took down the Marlins seven to four. Andi
Pa has hit a career high three home runs as
the Dodgers curbs on the Astros twelve to two. And

(33:24):
right now the Mets are shutting out the Rockies four
to zero. Is the top of the fifth, and Pirates
shutting out the Diamondbacks one to zero.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's the top of the fifth. Back to you guys,
thanks a bunch britty Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins coming up next,
got the play of the day coming your way, and
we break down what is exactly up with Joelle em Beid.
Oh boy, can't wait to hear Ryan's thoughts on that.
That's next right here, This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I'm on a boat, will will the latest on Mike
Rabel and Diana Russini. Coming up next hour Jason Smith,
Ryan Hollins in for Mike Harmon tonight. Right now, it's
all San Antonio fifty seven thirty four over Minnesota. A

(34:18):
minute to go before halftime, and I think at halftime,
Big Dog Chris Finch is gonna say, hey, all of
these buckets should have been disallowed in the first half. Really,
this should be a tie game. This is no way
we're losing by twenty three points here in the first half.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
He just mixing things up a little bit. And you know,
you had to play the behind games in the playoffs,
and again no one thought that San Antonio would just
go down to oh at home. But I will say
Minnesota is the one team. Man, they make it hard
for an analyst. They make it hard, man, have a
get up here. You're gonna ask me who's gonna win,

(34:56):
who's gonna lose? And and you know sometimes they're around
making plays and you know, everybody picked Denver the series before.
And you know, even with their injuries, no Anthony Edwards,
they went and stuck it to the nuggets. They they
went and and you know, it's funny when I'm looking
at their roster construction, it's all versatility. And the reason

(35:22):
I say that is normally, okay, you got a point guard,
you got wings, you got a big like outside of
Rudy Gobert, everybody can shoot, pass and dribble. You know,
they've got a lot of shot creators. And in today's NBA,
you normally see teams with you know, a star two.
You just talked about the Celtics at the last segment,
and then you want to assemble them with three and

(35:43):
D guys, guys who can defend and hit threes. But
they're a unique roster because they've got a lot of
guys who can create their shot. And it played out
like Terrence Shennon Jr. Was unbelievable. Not so great here tonight.
But you know, Minnesota they are. They are extremely intriguing.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I love the fact that you say Minnesota makes it
tough on an analyst when you're an analyst for the
Rockets and that first round series you went through with
the Lakers, that tells you how tough Minnesota makes it
on you.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, well, because you know, you're relying on us as
an analyst to tell you what's gonna happen and make
sense of things. And sometimes there isn't sense to be made.
It's just it's playoff basketball. You still got to play
the game. Hey, Lea Brown's got some juice. Juice left
and you know, hey, no Anthony Edwards and and you know, honestly,
all season Minnesota has been able to play well without

(36:38):
Anthony Edwards in there with, you know, and you know,
as good as good a player as he is, it
can be shocking. But you know, your your team that
can prepare for those moments.

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Speaker 3 (37:04):
Well.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
When you have become the master of the mid range jumper,
guess what you get to be the player of the day.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
Bronts and top of the key crossover on Barlow. They
got the matchup again to the foul line spins, fadeaway jumpers.
Hey burried it tailing bruntson with two clutch jumpers and
the next on a seven nothing run had their largest lead.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Up by four.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Next TV on the call. You know for the last
few years, right, I sit here and say, it's just
amazing how Kevin Durant mastered the lost art of the
midrange jumper. Right, there's nobody that can make it like him.
And he's you know, he'd have those spurts where hey,
there's thirteen straight points in a row by Durant. Half
of them were mid range jumpers right from fifteen feet.
He now has to see that to Brunson, I mean

(37:44):
brought the way. I mean, this is now his bread
and butter. It's not the three at the end of
the shot clockets. I'm gonna find a way to get
in my fade away that fifteen foot like nobody hits
him like he does, and he hit two huge ones
in the fourth quarter that gave the Knicks a six
point lead. Like it, really you talk about a lost art.
It's good to see the KD had it for a

(38:04):
long time. And now you know Brunson's that guy.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, Brunson is so unique, man, He's such a winner. Again,
he's a guy that makes the endless look silly. He
was undersize, he wasn't the quickest guy come out of college,
but again he was a winner, win a national championship
over at Villanova with Devincenzo. But his ability to create
shots and his toughness it it's it's amazing. And not

(38:28):
just a tiny, tiny guard because he's strong, but he's
six two and he's a guy that doesn't jump out
the gym. But his ability to get his shot off
like it is ridiculous. And again you gotta have a closer. Now.
The challenge with Brunson is the later that he gets,
you know, kind of the you know, his struggles they

(38:49):
come with putting size on him, you know, getting length
on him that can bother those contested fadeaways or step
throughs or the floaters. So I'm intrigued to see how
it works out, man. But he's box office, make no mistake.
You know you can argue easily one of the best,
if not the best closer in the game.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Now to get away from this for a second, the
Knicks win tonight, and and because I know you gotta,
I know you, you're your foement the mouth for this.
Joel Embiid does not play a couple of injuries going
into Game two. He does not play as good as
he was for the Sixers and the last three games
against the Celtics, scoring one hundred points in last three games.
Where are you on what you've seen from Embid? And

(39:28):
now another injury for him? Is they try to deal
with things going back for Game three?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Well, that's just gonna be Joel's career. You know, for
those that remember when he when he was drafted, I
think he missed his first two seasons. Everybody's like just
amazed when he's out. But that's just that's just what
it's gonna be. Joel's intrigguing because you know he plays hard,
but a lot of times, just for his career is
gonna be what it is. He's playing through injury and
Joel Embiid maybe what we would thought if we could

(39:55):
have gotten more basketball out of Greg oden Man, So
uh wow.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
That's you think that's the career would have been for Odin.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah. Man, Greg was a dog. He was extremely quick,
block shots. I don't know if he would have been
shooting threes like Joel, but as far as a dominant, dominant,
transcendent force in the league, yeah, Greg was different. He
was different. So again, when you're that big and these

(40:22):
are the problems that the big guys have and we're
looking at longevity, it's those injuries, and you know, Joel
is playing through them. Thinking about it like Wimby we're
nervous about he missed with the bloodcott last season. You're
nervous about something you know going wrong with him a yo. Mean,
you know we felt like Rob with yeall, we didn't
get to see enough of him. So, you know, just

(40:44):
those are the challenges that Joel is gonna get to
a point, and it seems like this season he just
comes like like I gotta play through it, Like I'm
never gonna be super healthy.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Exit. How about a Fresco exit? The Ryan Hollins, Jason Smith,
Ryan Hollinds in for Mike Harmon tonight. We got more
NBA on the way. It's a huge halftime lead for
the Spurs. Meanwhile, how bad are things for the Lakers?
And Luka doncic Oh you'll hear it coming up next
right here, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins, This is Fox Sports Radio.

(41:14):
These are my nice These are my nice Holkas.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
So here's the deal. Okay, regular sneakers, you throw them
in a washing machine on cold, little air dry, right, okay,
air dry. Important. Sounds like you got some shoes that
ain't going in the washing machine. No, you're gonna have
to find a professional.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Oh, mag you know you have any any home remedy
anything where like you are on the road when you're
you know, and when when your kicks for something happened, like,
oh I gotta do this. You got nothing for me?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Yeah, it ain't coming out of it ain't. I'm gonna
just make bad words, you know, Like you can't just
lie to me.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
You can't lie to me and say hey, try this,
like you know.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Like I got a mark on one of my dress
shoes and then I just I just decide to just
smear the whole shoe, you know, like like vasiline, and
it's like, oh, that's not coming off, you know what,
Let's just finish the job off. Okay, we got another
color shoe here, We got another color shoe here.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Okay, all right, all right. I was really hoping you
had something there, man, I really I was hoping.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
For the blue cheese. I mean, I mean, and then
the problem is it sounds like you probably dabbed it
in the year. There's a stain now of the dam.
You need a professional.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, that's the thing. Like it's you could tell like, oh,
you drop something on there. It's not like there's a
little bit of a smear. No, it's like, oh you
drop something on there. You jerk like that. That's what
it looks like to me right now.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, you got nothing, man, all the years in the NBA,
all that, you got nothing for me.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
I do have a shoe guy, but he's here in Houston.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
You never shoe guy in La.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Sorry, wow, really, how do you not have a shoe
Why you have a shoe guy in Houston, but you
don't have a shoe guy in La. Does your shoe
guy in Houston know a shoe guy in La.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
He probably he probably would ask you to ship your
stuff here. Who knows, I'll ask him. Wow, okay, well
that's Mike Brown too.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Hey, so far, just to let you know, right, we
started the show here Bryan Hollins, unfortunately for him. Let
it slip that he knows Mike Brown played for him.
I asked him to give me Mike Brown's cell phone number,
and Ryan won't do it. But so far social media,
they all say to do it. They all say to
do it. They all say go ahead and do it.
Look hang on, Doc River says do it. Larry Bird

(43:30):
says do it. Ben Howland says do it. Yeah, all
these guys, I'm making that up. But everybody on social
media says, go ahead and do it.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, I did notice that their responses on Twitter.
You guys are so kind, But I don't know the
etiquette how that would roll over. You know, if you
buy him dinner tonight?

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Oh okay, I could do that, sure, I don't think
that warrants it.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
What I could I could?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Okay, I could I could buy well you mean by
you dinner or buy Mike Brown done.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
That's what one of the sweets said, I mean, I
guess you know, I don't know about this blue cheese
thing you have going on. That might not be a fair.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
You know, you don't have to you don't have to
have blue cheese. I could buy you something else for
Mike Brown's phone. Really, what what would be the price?

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Like?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
What would be what would be the dinner you would
have to get to give me Mike Brown's cell phone number?
There is there's gotta be. Everybody's got a price, man,
Everybody's got a price.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I mean, you have to sell your soul for this number.
And I don't think that's it. I don't I don't
know if we want to go that.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
What's your what's your favorite place to eat in Houston?
What's your favorite place?

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Favorite favorite place to eat? I'm gonna sound silly, but
the food is good everywhere, I mean, Houston, Atlanta, New Orleans,
best food in America? Okay, that far all right? So
it's it's I mean, I can I mean, I can
go to the gas station and get a banger.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Oh I can do that for you. Hey, you are
How about this? How about fifty dollars gift card to
the gas station of your choice. You can go to
right after the show from Mike Ground's phone number.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
I don't know if my explanation the coach Brown the
next time I see him for giving his number out,
is gonna work.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
One hundred dollars a hundred dollars gift cardift card to
a gas station.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna you know, I
don't Oh that's what you got, one hundred dollars. Oh cool, Ryan,
No problem.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, you're getting taken care of.
He's gotta be happy. And again, it's all positive. We're
up to zip, we're gonna beat the sixers, We're going
to the Eastern Conference Finals. It's all positive.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Oh, you're gonna text them during the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I'll text them during a game, like if I see something, Hey,
I think I think Kat needs a couple of minute
rest here, you know, and I'll make sure you know, Hey,
Mike has has delivery silence no, no, deliver, deliver anyway,
deliver anyway.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Okay, what if we just find like his like Twitter
handle and you can tweet at him.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, but anybody could do that. Not many people out
a cell phone number. I mean I have a cell
phone number. Oh god, I mean, I really, I think
you're making it more difficult than it had to be. Like,
just in an hour, you have gone from hey, I
think you should do it to now one hundred dollars
gift card at at A at A at a guest,
and I'll I'll give you one better. I'll make sure
the gas station has sushi. You can go really high level. Yeah, yeah, man,

(46:12):
I'll help to help you out with that.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Oh my goodness, gas station sushi.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah yeah. Now, all of a sudden, I wait a minute, now,
wait a minute, wait a minute, this is something now.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
And you know, I don't know if I would trust
the sushi at the gas station.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
No, but just the fact that they serve sushi tells
you it's a high level gas station. So you could
trust other things if you don't want to get the.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Sushi or a creative one.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, that's Jodge. That is true. That is true. That
is true. You know, did you want? Do you watch
The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins with Tracy Morgan?
Have you ever seen seen that show that's on? He
plays a He plays a former football player played for
the Jets. He plays a football player that got thrown
out of the league for gambling, and he wants to
get back into the league. So Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter,

(46:57):
Daniel Radcliffe is this documentary film maker and they're doing
a documentary to give him good publicity to get him
back in the league. And of course it's hysterical because
Tracy Morgan doing his thing. But at one point Daniel
Dcliffe says to him, we can't do that, Reggie, that's
a fool's errand, and Tracy Morgan goes, oh, you can.
Fools run errands all the time. That's why Wah Wah
has sushi. So I wonte about when I was telling

(47:21):
you about the gas station with sushi in it.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
No, no, no, I love it.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I love it, all right, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollis, I'm
working on you. Though I'm working on you, I'm trying
to I'm testing. I'm trying to figure out where you're
vulnerable to get Mike Brown's cell phone number, all right.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Me, you know I would it. I want you to
feel honored that if I ever get pressed by one
of our loyal Fox Sports radio fans and they want
your numbers, Smith, I'm not giving it.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Out, all right, all right, here's the deal. You give
me Mike Brown's number, I'll let you give my numbers
to one fan that you tell me you trust, that
you tell me you trust. Yeah, sure, oh.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
My god, I'll let you do that to one fan
that I trust.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, I mean, like, oh, you know you you, you
know you fire that one. You need to like if
the guy's if the guy's not leaving you old woman's
not leaving you alone, I'll give you Jason Smith's number, Okay,
and then that that we're even for. You give me
Mike Brown and you give a fan that one.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh my goodness, yeah, yeah, no, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
All right, we'll get back to this story right now.
San Antonio still thumping Minnesota. It's even worse. Third quarter underway,
under ten minutes left to go, now sixty four thirty five. Uh,
the Spurs with the lead. So it looks like this
one's gonna be tied at one game at piece, but
still long way to go.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
At the At the space that I'm in in the game,
I've got it on in the background. I've never seen this.
One of the Spurs players tips the ball up to
Devin to the cell. He catches it in midair, in
the air and just shot it in.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't even he doesn't set and it's
a three. And it's a three that he hit that way.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
He made it look so normal, like it was a
shooting drill.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
That was insane. I'm just seeing the replay. You're ahead
of me, row because I'm just seeing the replay of
it right now. He's in the corner and the ball,
the shot comes off the rim and the ball is
just tipped out to him. He jumps in the air,
catches it and shoots all in one motion before he
hits the ground and it's a three. And now time

(49:29):
out on the floor because Chris Finch is saying, guys,
let's just go home. If he's hitting shots like that,
this is not our night, man, Let's just go home.
Let's absolutely go That's an insane play. Again, I've never
seen that. I've never seen someone do that before.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, that's These are the type of Knights you call
the God Bless you Knights in the playoffs. When you
see guys hitting like that, you're like, it's your night, dog,
Like you got it, We'll fight again living other night,
God bless you. Like, hey, hey, you did your job.
They're hitting, they're hitting mid air jump shot three. I
don't what do you call that. It's it's like a

(50:05):
double jumper. It's a jumper jumper.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
I don't know that you know what that is. Yeah,
I'll tell you what that is. That's a shot that
right now, James Harden is saying, Oh, I wish I
had come up with that a couple of years ago.
That's James har I got. That's the shot I wish
I had come up with.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
That's I mean, that's what everything wants to have a
quick release, so just just catch it midair and shoes
just getch.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
God, I mean, that was insane. And that makes it
a twenty nine point lead now for San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Twenty nine point lead here, it's a god bless you night.
Oh Man.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Wemby's got fourteen. Fox has fourteen. Wemby already with twelve
rebounds as well. Again, this is a blowout of absolute
proportions right now for the Spurs. Meanwhile, hey, look and
Edwards and the and the Wolves are gonna be happy
going home. Look, it's probably gonna be a one to
one lead after this. Coming off the bench again tonight,
because he's on the minutes restriction. They're being really careful

(50:56):
and especially after winning game one, they can afford to
do this. Uh, not a great night for him shooting.
But in the end, this is gonna be a game
where both teams feel good because the Spurs are gonna
feel good with with a big blow out win to
tie the series, and the Wolves are gonna feel good
saying hey, coming off that big emotional first round, we
split the first two games and now we're going home

(51:17):
one one. This is it's weird, but this is where
both teams feel good going out going out of game two.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah, you know. And and for Sanenntoni, they're gonna be
disappointed because they drop game one and then they're gonna
have to go get one and on the road. And
you have to think san Antonio, it's they're still fairly young.
You know, Darren Fox is there, they're big closer, and
he hasn't had a long playoff run. So they're gonna
have to win these games off energy and effort. And

(51:44):
we'll call it for what it is. If if they
can get to Wimby, if they can be physical with him,
if somehow his inexperience plays out, that's the biggest question mark,
and it's it's not a matter of if, it's a
matter of win. As long as he stays healthy, he's
he's gonna be dominating the league. With all due respect
to the greatness of Luca and SGN, the's guys like

(52:05):
like Womby figures it out, we know that much. But
this year the question is how soon is he gonna
figure it out? And obviously how healthy that he's gonna be.
And if you're Minnesota, they're doing the right game plan.
Get physical with them, keep your hands on them, and
you know where I'm down because he does a lot
and they've got a roster that can do that. So

(52:26):
when you saw the first series with Portland, they got larger, slower, big,
so he was free to kind of be comfortable and
do what he wanted. But Minnesota doesn't have the size
outside of Go Bear, but they have the physicality, the
quickness and the versatility to get up under Mby, get
physical with him, and again that's why they lost. That's
why he struggled in Game one. So he's playing much better.

(52:48):
Their team has the energy and effort, and again you
view this like an elimination game, and the Spurs are
doing their job.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
You know, I think we're gonna come out of this playoffs.
However it goes for the Spurs, and they still a
tough time believing it's gonna be anything but Spurs thunder
in the Western Conference Finals. We're gonna come out of
this playoff and going into next year, and it's going
to be a consensus of oh, best player.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
In the NBA.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, Wemby, Wemby, Wemby and and no one, no one's
gonna disagree. Going into this next year, being healthy and
seeing what he's done, I think it now is his time.
I mean, you've seen it come a lot faster than
you thought, and you know the way the guy can
hit threes and defend, and I mean, really it's it's
it's gonna be hard to find someone you're gonna say,
can out Wenby Wemby.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah. I mean, he cares so much. And I remember
I was speaking with Sean Elliott, uh before I got
to see Wenby the first time, and he said, he said, Ryan,
he said, every time I see him, he's done something
that I've never seen in the game of basketball. He said,
I've never seen it. I go really shot, He goes, yeah,
I've never seen it. Then I watched him player, I said, yeah,

(53:51):
he does something you've never seen before. So he's a
unique talent man. There's nothing like him. Uh. We like
to call players like that creative players, okay, because you know,
guys are little, they're you know, they they they're not
they're not strong enough, or they're they're too big, they're slower,
you know, or they're not they can't finish high. So

(54:12):
he can. He can do just about everything. And I
think that the again we spoke about earlier, the biggest
change with him is his mentality. So I do see
them getting past Minnesota and it is gonna be box office.
Get your popcorn ready if as expected, like you said,
it'll be okay. See in the Spurs, they're just there
are any different wavelength than the rest of the teams

(54:33):
in the NBA. And then the wild thing is he's
been like the Achilles Hill of okay, see, like like
he's extremely confident against them, So it's gonna be fun
to watch.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
So he wanted to bring you that latest here again.
Still a twenty four point lead right now for San
Antonio eight minutes ago in the third quarter, and that
that Vos. That was an amaze. I've never seen a
play like that. I'm sure it'll be everywhere, uh in
the next couple of hours, going viral.
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