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to work. Well here we are, Mike Carmen. Yeah, buddy, true.
We had the trade deadline. Yeah it is over. Lebron
picked his team, Yeah it's over. The World Cup was incredible,
Yeah it is over.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Now there's lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The Knicks still are the champions in the NBA. Wanted
to make sure to gets over but that's past. But
they are still the champions. It is now time for football.
We have we have, we've, we've saw, we checked all
the boxes. Everything else we make you. Okay, this is good. No,
this is good. No, this is part of our summer.
This is part Nope, this boxes are checked. It's time
for football. It is time for football.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So did you do your rankings today?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I mean I started playing with some fantasy football fun today.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No, I went and did my rankings of Geno Smith
where he ranks as in seven on seven and eleven
on eleven. Drill sofar. Okay, good, that's what I was. Good.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna run those stats, I
mean you'll you'll be my guy and my go to
for that line of uh frivolity.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Do we have a Geno Smith guy that KNTA, that's Jason, Yeah,
he's got all that. However, we got Jason locking for
coming up in about fifteen minutes, all kinds of we
had so much NFL stuff tonight, Bejean Robinson gets paid.
You're not gonna believe who the worst quarterback in the
NFL is all kinds of great stuff. You just said, Gino.
You you spoiled it alread no, no, no, no. Gino
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is not the worst quarterback in the NFL. According to
coaches and personnel men. That is not the worst quarterback
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
This is the biggest day of Mike Sando's career in life.
I've heard his name nine hundred times. If I got
paid a nickel, I could buy a cup of coffee
at this point. Sure, just I barely listened to the
radio today. I was I was off doing one hundred
other things, but his name kept popping up because people
were mad about it. Every ranking. It's like every fan
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base decided they wanted to chime in on his rankings today.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So you know, that's a very big deal and you're
not gonna believe who the worst quarterback in the NFL is.
But with all of that to say, but first school, right,
I mean, obviously, the biggest story in the world of
the sports world the last few days he ruined is
a Dodger. Yes, it's all over the baseball seasons.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Even flew a plane and they had the banner. But
it was upset.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right now, well, speaking of upside down, but right now,
Terry Scooble is set to leave this game a loser
his first start. Right now we have look, John Paul
Morosi is there. We had him on last night. He's
covering the game for TNT. The Cubs have just taken
a three to one lead over the Dodgers. In the
bottom of the seventh, everybody's favorite form met Pete Crow
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Armstrong with an RBI to make it a three to
one lead. School Ball had left the game already. He
went six innings, six strikeouts, but the Cubs did, ding
him for two runs. And right now, if this final
fits and the Dodgers are six outs away, Terry Schoolbl's
first start with the Dodgers will last in a loss.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, no, everybody, I mean, I don't know what it means.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Six innings, the two runs, a homer for Swanson and
then a chopper after a great play at the plate,
uh literally right before it from little Tommy Edmund gunning
down Suzuki at home plate. No, little Chopper not fast
enough to get the throat to home and the run
scored to make it a two to one game. But
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pitched well, got some great help from the defense, the
Dodgers giving you some great returns there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But again, all the stuff you had just said, and
this goes into the big point. This goes into the
big point that people miss about sports, about baseball, about
trading for a great player, is that, with all of
it to be said, take it all into account Schooble's
a Dodger, why are we even playing? They're ruining baseball.
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The Dodgers, and any team in Major League Baseball especially
is still beatable when you get to the playoffs. We
are two months away from the playoffs, and the best
teams get in and the hottest team wins it. That's
kind of how it goes. And the last couple of years,
quite honestly, the Dodgers should have gone home. Okay, two
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years ago, they had to have the greatest bullpen game
in the history of the world to avoid elimination against
the at the hands of the Padres, who had played
those first three games like they just wanted to not
just beat the Dodgers, but take their lunch money and
steal their cars, like that's how bad they wanted to win.
All of a sudden, the Dodgers get this incredible bullpen game,
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they win, They beat the Mets in the NLCS, and
they go on and win the World Series. But you're
talking about. They were one bullpen game away from going
home in the first round of the playoffs. You want
to go to last and then, oh, by the way,
let's not forget that in the sixth inning or twice
in the World Series against the Yankees, the Yankees had
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them on the ropes. All they had to do is
not give up a walk garf Freddie Freeman grand Slam
in Game one of the World Series. It happened. All
they to do is not melt down in the sixth
inning and not feel the ball. In Game five against
the Dodgers, it happened, or that series would have gone six,
and who knows what happens. So the Dodgers were still
close to going home. Now you go to last year.
They needed a home run in the top of the
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ninth inning in Game seven from mcguel Rojas, not from Otani,
not you Freeman, not any of these high priced guys,
not Mookie Betts. And they needed a mcguel rojas home
run to keep this thing alive or they were going
to lose to the Blue Jays. Like that's absolutely ridiculous, right,
So they could have gone home easily in each of
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the last two years, now I know what you're saying is, yeah,
but they didn't Okay, yeah, you're right, they did not
go home. But you look at the things we talked
about here in the last couple in the last few minutes.
What won those games we're talking about for the Dodgers,
bullpen games by guys aren't even on the roster anymore
from two year years ago, right, Miguel Rojas, who was
like really Rojas, really really, he's still playing. So understand
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that when it gets to the when it gets to
this point in baseball, the Dodgers are beatable. What what
spending money and doing this it buys you contention, it
buys you the postseason. But if you're not the hottest team,
hottest teams come in and you know you have two
starting pitchers that are red hot, good luck, right, because
they're gonna wind up just knocking the ball, just just
knocking you guys out. Hey, all of a sudden, we're
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down two zip and now we're two days away from
seeing that guy again. So that's how it goes. And
and for all this talk and the Dodgers there, you
know they're they're gonna lose five in a row. Now
they're down now for to one to the Dodger in
the bottom of the seventh thing, this is gonna be
the fifth straight loss, two to the hands of the Cubs,
who they may see again in the postseason. So to
think that all of a sudden, yeah, this is baseball, right,
Baseball is different than NBA. No one is is gonna
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be able to go and continue to say, hey, we
have the entire best we We're going to take everybody,
all the best players and go it. You can't do
it right. You can't do it right. Same football, best
teams get in. But how many times have we seen
a team number one seed lose in the NFC championship
game or lose the week before the NFC championship game? Right,
it happens all the time. The two best teams from
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the conferences rarely play each other in the Super Bowl.
But baseball it happens, right, Baseball, it happens baseball. You
see the upsets the other sports, yeah, the cream, but
baseball you get that in the playoffs. And I know
the Dodgers have won and it's all doom and gloom,
but you see how close they were to going home
the last couple of years and that can easily happen
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again this year. You have no idea. You could get
to October and schoobl might be the only starting pitcher
they have. You don't know what Otani's gonna be able
to do. Robleski with the innings limit, he's gonna be hitting.
You don't know how Blake Snell is gonna be. All
of a sudden. You could be down to schoobl and
a bullpen game and then bring schoobl back on four
hours rest and try to win a baseball game. That's
how baseball goes. The Dodgers can still lose.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It'll be him and the rubber armed Yamamoto, because remember
how he came in, had to win back to back
days in that World Series, right, pitch six innings one day, Oh,
come back, we need you for two and two thirds
the next. So, I mean it's just the chaos factor
is certainly there. Yeah, you can buy yourself out of mistakes.
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You can build what is on paper a super team
that would win any fantasy league. But you get between
the white lines and crazy things happen. Right the Yankees
World Series, we were on eras that stuff was going
on our mouths agape a jaw hitting the desk as
we're watching some of that unfold, particularly the judge play right,
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and then last year, just the convergence of events, the chaos,
every string that Dave Roberts pulled. I mean, the guy
had a horseshoe tucked somewhere. That's just the way it
worked out. But it allows everybody else to have the
narrative of like, well, they're this unstoppable force. We talked
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about it a little bit yesterday with the years that
they failed. Before that, you had the COVID Bubble title
that many don't want to recognize based on how long
the season was. Okay, fine, and then you go back
to nineteen eighty eight. That's a long time since Kirk
Gibson was running around or limping around or whatever you're
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calling that, going around the base paths. But it's just
that idea of if you get into the postseason. That's
why it was exciting, and we talked about it. You
could find it in the podcast from yesterday's show that
a lot of these big market teams at least took
some swings. Maybe they're check swings, maybe they don't have
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grandiose impact overall, but at least everybody came out and
threw a few jabs in the process, and for the Dodgers,
they landed the big fish. For tonight, Cubs fans are
getting ready to line Wrigleyville drinking to his demise.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Now you're you're also getting a little bit yeah, you're
you're a little bit of Southside or there a little
bit of south complete no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
But like Murphy's bleachers had their signage up. People were
there with their signs and plenty of extra terms uh
man on the street. If you go and search anything
from any of the Chicago media outlets that were out
here interviewing Cub fans, because you know, they were very,
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very excitable as the Dodgers were coming to town and
and certainly to have this opportunity to go after school,
it was spicy to say the least.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I mean, look, if if if you want to sit
back and say, Okay, I get what you're saying, but
how are you going to do? They're the champs. You
see what they've done for the last ten twelve years. Okay, really,
I mean realize that this Dodger dynasty is kind of
the a Johnny come lately, because look how many years
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had they gotten as far as they did, and they
didn't have enough no matter what they did.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Well, KATEI Ricards was a guy that year after you know,
we were talking about whether he needed to be the
guy that only went A to B.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah. I mean, look we see him, We see him
get in the playoffs, you see them get far, but
then Kershaw would hit the seventh inning of a big
game and the Dodgers would lose, right, I mean that
shows you the fine line between winning and losing. No
matter how great you are, you can still go I'm scratch. Yet,
how did the Dodgers not win a World Series until
twenty twenty and then you didn't win again until I mean,
they've been running the NL West now for nearly fifteen
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years like this is, this is, this has been a
pretty dominant run unlike we've seen as far as one
division in baseball in a long long time. But that's
how that's how how narrow the margin is. And and
to realize that, okay, yeah, well it's really just the
last two years. But we're used to them winning, We're
used to them getting there, so I completely get it.
But the whole baseball is ruined thing it's like baseball
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is different from all the other sports.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's sometimes the easiest saying that's, well, that's baseball, that's baseball,
that's baseball, that's baseball season. All right, that's baseball. But
that really is the truth that that things happen in
the playoffs, and all of a sudden, the team that
looks like it is just hot knife through butter winds
up going home. Like I mean, the upsets upsets in baseball.
If you go back and look and say, okay, let's
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look at the NBA Final, the Stanley Cup Final, the
Super Bowl, and the World Series. Look at the teams
playing in this and go back just twenty five years,
you are gonna see the most Uh how do I
say this? I can't say non favorite, because you get
to the you get to the World Series, you get
the Final, you're good. But I would say, if you
want to look at the the non dominant teams, the
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greatest number of non dominant teams that are in the
finals of all sports, most of them will be in baseball. Right,
You're gonna get the best, the best teams in the NBA,
they're gonna be there, right, Okay, the best NHL yeah
you can. Okay, you see a little bit of weirdness
here and there. You get a hot goalie, But the
playoff are a marathon. In the NBA and the NHL,
you get the best teams there at the end of
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the NFL, yes, but you generally get the best team.
You generally get at least one the best team in football,
the second best team, the best team, one best team
in the conference there and if they lose, hey, okay,
I mean you win your way there. But baseball, you see,
oh man, I remember that Rangers Cardinals World Series? Right,
I remember how you know? So and so I remember
the Blue Jays getting to the World Series last year? Okay,
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all right, blue Jays got there. So it happens more
in baseball than anywhere else. It's a Baseball is just
a different animal. And it's hard to explain any more
than that. But that's really the best way to look
at it. Go back and look at all. Go back
to two thousand, Go back to two thousand and go
oh yeah, here are the non dominant teams that made
it to the World Series. And it's bigger than any
other sports.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Well, just look at where we're at. Really quickly, since
twenty thirteen. Right, the Dodgers have had five seasons where
they won one hundred or more games. How many times
they were in the World Series in any of those seasons?
Jason Smith zero zero.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I was gonna hit a buzzer. Oh, I'm.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Buzzer.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You gotta let me hit up? Yeah, yeah, let me.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I gave it a three count. I fear dead air.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I've a buzzer lightly again.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
No deal, no deal, deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, but go back lost nl CS, loss, NLDS, loss NLDS, NLCS, World.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Series, World Series.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
All right, we'll talk about cheating in twenty seventeen, twenty nineteen,
loss NLDS, then you win the World Series, loss NLCS,
lost Division Series, lost Division Series, and then back to
back World Series.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, you had three straight years where.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
They went went out early and you're looking around going
what the hell man that was? That was a one
and done with the dominant stacked team that they have,
and now that they won two in a row, everybody's
up in arms, like, yeah, just get your squad right,
your congressman, tell your owner to actually spend some of
the money that they get from the rev share the
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ticket sales and everything else they've got.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Going exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon again,
realize this can happen. Dodgers are three outs away from losing.
Schooble's first game comes up four to one as they
come to bat in the bottom of the eighth. So
we'll keep you updated on this, but it is time
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every single night. Well bottom of the eighth inning, Edwin
Diaz is giving up two runs so far for the Dodgers.
Cubs lead the Dodgers and Turik Schoobles first start five
to one, so barring a big night, School is going
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to get an el. Freddie Peralta also likely going to
get an l. Not a great day for pictures in
their first game with new teams. However, it is time
to talk football. Joining us now on the hotline longtime
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It is a guy who now living in Baltimore, is
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in charge of raising money on a go fund me
to pay z A. Flowers salary. It is Jason Locking
for what's happening to Jay?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
What's going on, gentlemen, Hope you're well happy training camps?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah. I mean everybody's getting paid today, Rightsea Flowers got paid,
but John Robinson got paid that Flowers contract. Boy, whoo,
that's a big one.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I think we need to really see the fine print here.
I think if you're gonna look at it from a
raven's perspective, and when it all comes out in the
wash and we see what's the real money is and
what's inflated, you know you had a fifth year option
coming up at twenty eight million dollars. I think he's
gonna end up being a thirty million dollar receiver, which
is t Higgins territory. It's it's not the Mark Chase.
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I think, now you can do funny money math, and
you could look at it from an agent's perspective, and
we could start getting in new money this and new
money that. But here's the deal he had thirty million
dollars guarantee you it's three million dollars guarantee to him
this year, and he had about twenty eight million dollars
guaranteed to him on the fifth year option. And so
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I had smart people tell them me all along, he'll
be lucky if he gets seventy million fully guaranteed on
top of that thirty that's about the best he'll do. Well,
they're saying it's one o eight, right, So there you go.
So and I think when we again get down the
brass tacks and see what the Ravens will pay him
for the totality of the years in which they own
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him on a you know, own his services on a
per year basis, I think the math is going to
be not the thirty five people are talking about, but
much more like a thirty And he had that coming
to him in a fifth year option. So if you're him,
you take the security, you take the burden hands and
certainly this is generational wealth. He's guy at five touchdowns
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last year that was thirty second among wide receivers since
he came into the league. I think he's forty fifth
and red zone targets and for forty fifth and end
zone targets and forty second in red zone targets. He
doesn't show up there a lot. There's a lot of
great things for them. It's twelve hundred yards last year
and he probably can get that again. And I think
he'll be a focal point in this offense. And he's
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a really good football player. But the idea that they
were going to have to pay him like an elite
number one wide receiver, I've been writing the weeks on
s side that that's not going to be the case
when it all comes to pass. And if I'm him,
I'm taking this deal too. Lamar Jackson might not be
there in a year. Decklendl might not be a great
offensive coordinator. We don't know. We're going to have to
find out. Dave Flowers might be the only dude who
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other teams have to really worry about in the passing game.
We'll have to see how these workies come along. I
think Mark Andrews has cooked like so if if I'm
J Flowers, I'm not afflutely taking that contract as well.
But I don't. I don't think it's actually as outsized
as maybe some are making it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Moving over to Atlanta, three years, seventy five llion dollar
extension with John Robinson with Pennick slash two as the QBS.
Does he break James Wilder's four hundred and ninety two
touchdotal from nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That's interesting. Yeah, I mean at this point, you got
it's a fixed cost. You know what he's going to
be moving forward. I don't know that they have a
quarterback right now. They might just want to play wildcat
football with him. Yeah, let's go if my options are
two at this stage, and Pennis whenever he comes back.
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He's such a special player, and I'd really love to
see him put in a situation that fully taps into
everything he can do and like really sort of allows
him to flourish. And I don't he's had that from
a conceptual standpoint with the people he's worked with. If
he certainly hasn't been in offenses that were highly functional.
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You know, he had cousins coming back off with surgery
and he couldn't move. He's had tannics and fits and starts.
So I feel for him in terms of I think
a lot of people maybe don't realize just how that's
what he is. And he and Gibbs were going to
get paid, and they were going to get paid before
we got too deep into training camp, and they were
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going to kind of reset some things at that position.
And that's what we're saying, you know, And.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You mentioned the quarterback situation and in all the big
quarterback derbys we thought we were going to get in
the summer here, we're really not right. We already know
that nothing's going to happen. And Cousins is going to
start for now over Fernando Mendoza and and really in Atlanta.
If if Michael Pennix Junior is still weeks and weeks
away from working eleven on eleven, like as long as
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Tour can stand up, like he's going to be the starters.
So all of a sudden, like they I think that's
going to solve itself for them over the court over
the course of the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean they got to sort this to a
back thing out and hope that that's not anything sort
of recurring or whatever. I don't I think their team
is the defense. He's had his hands full, but yeah,
I mean, like even the Rams backup quarterback, I think
it's going to be stetching Bennett. I don't think they're
in a you know, in a super rush to put
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Simpson out there and see what that would look like.
There's I guess a few other back The steerers thing
to me is kind of interesting because there's a lot
of people in that organization who I trust, who would
tell me, you know, well Howard, Will Howard, Will Howard,
and you know, I think they know what Mason Rudolph is.
So you know, the preseason games there will be a
little bit interesting. But yeah, there's not there's not a
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lot of palace intrigue at top these depth charts at
that position.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, how jacked up are you for Thursday? Though?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I mean our first days we get to see some
some Carson back out there, let's go.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah, I mean I don't jacked up is a little extreme,
but yeah, that's yeah, but it's good. It's a long offseason,
and hey, we don't even know how much longer we're
gonna have preseason football, right whenever we get to making games,
you knows, we there might be down the lawn there
just a whole bunch of you know these uh what
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do they call them? The joint practices? But yes, I'm
glad it's back. I will be partaking. And I think
that is kind of interesting because even with the more
money they gave Jakoby Brissett, Like, if if a situation
arises in season and somebody you know, thinks they're a Jacobe,
they lose a quarterback and they think that Jacoby Brissette,
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it's going to be the difference. I do think Arizona
that's going to show up that Arizona's going to want
to look at him a little bit this year before
they go ahead and draft somebody next year.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
More and a half.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Then, is that what you're telling men, Pickett, I have.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I haven't even looked at the numbers on that game.
I haven't looking at some NFL futures again.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
But I.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Sure, guy, Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I've been waiting all day to talk to you about this.
Jay Jason Locking for NFL Insider with US Now you
had a front row to John Harbaugh for his entire
run in Baltimore Today at Giants practice, a little bit
of a dust up, Jackson Dart scores a touchdown in
red zone period, throws the football at the helmet of
the closest defender. Greg Knew some a bunch of defensive
players gotten Dart's face, and you know, Harbor had to say, look,
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I wasn't really impressed about what's going on, so dealing
with Jackson Dart being this kind of you know, quarterback
and trying to make sure Cam Skataboo isn't doing backflips
all the time. Like, is Harball the right guy for
these guys? Because these are the two players that have
taking the jut like they are the face of the
New York Giants.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Dark statu the vise are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Is he the right guy to be able to run this?
Or is every day going to be the clown man?
I wonder what's gonna happen today?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Well, I can tell you this. The New York media
market is so million miles from Baltimore. I know you
can get there and you know, two or two hours
and ten minutes on a solid traink. But in terms
of the way things are covered and dissected and the
amount of edge that's brought to it, that I think
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is good and I think it is natural. He hasn't
faced that yet, that level of media competition among described
and among the broadcasters and what that brings out. So
I think that's going to be a shock to assist.
And I do think on the offensive staff, you know,
Naggi's a little set in his ways and Greg Roman
is sure as hell set in his ways, and so
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and that one where they maybe needed a young buck
who speaks our language, who can who can connect to
them in a different way and maybe reel them in
in a different way. That's an interesting dynamic. I think
they've got that guy on defense in Denard Wilson, but
I don't think he's got to deal with the personalities
and the interpersonal sort of drama on DS. And he's
sort of larger than rifle or want to be larger
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than life figures sports figures in the Big Apple. Yeah,
I look seoky coach. He's better than any coach they've
had there in a long time, and he will establish
some guardrails. But I think that these guys are gonna
push his buttons a little bit too.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Jason, we enamored with lists and trying to rank stuff
all across the board, best movies and everything else. Today
was the big quarterback ranking, you know, all the exact
coaches whatever is should or Sanders the worst quarterback in football?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Well, no man like, how many did they ranked? I
got to be honest, I've been so busy with trade
deadline stuff and some other things.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, they cut it off at thirty five, so he
was among those receiving votes.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I mean, we don't really know that much about him.
When I have done these exercises in the past, you know,
unless you have met a certain criteria sample size, I
would just go with incomplete, you know what I mean,
or not enough data because it's just there's just so
much projection involved.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Should they have just said the Jets instead?
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Well maybe maybe. I mean, look, he's got enough to
battle for a lot of reasons, and absolutely some of
it is of his own making. But do I think
he's the could be the best quarterback there? Which again,
that's not a setting the bar super high, and all
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of a sudden there's this I Am touching everybody's got
Bill and Gabriel fever now off because he's not playing
action football like when you're that play or a wee
little guy like that, you know, take it from me,
a wee little guy. But that's great when everything's her
medically stealed. I still think, again, clearing a low bar
that he will prove to be the best quarterback that
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they have on their contract right now. Where that slots
him into the greater pantheonic quarterbacks. It's certainly in the
back end, and it may be in the thirties, but
I'd rather than him than Desaul Watson, especially when you
factor in the money.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four. That is
at Jason Locke and four. Check him out Sports Illustrated
All the latest again on his Twitter page again, just
search Jason lock and for his name. Check him out
as well on Big Play. Jay is always buddy. Appreciate it, man.
We'll touch next week. We'll have games to talk about.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
There we go, We'll be bet. Thanks, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Let's go see Jason. He's like, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
To work pre season football. We'll be bet. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You see how I twisted his arm into him pick
for Thursday plus one and a half.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Huh, let's go preseason football. This is how much I
missed football. I'm ready to bet.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Let's go Carson Beck, Kenny Dike it come on now.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I'm watching all twenty two on Carson Beck from the
National Championship Game. Ready to bet him for the first
game with the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh boy, exit out, bout of Fresco, exit, swalling down.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harbon.
Always great stuff from Jason Lock and forth. Time now
to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
For someone who's been called the Carson Beck of Fox
Sports Radio, don't expect to see a lot of him
on Thursday night either. It's Steve to say.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah, I am not starting on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Sure you're off on Thursday. That's one of your Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Starting Quarterback Carson Beck, rookie, will start the exhibition opener
for the Cardinals Thursday against Carolina and quarterback Kenny Pikett.
Arizona will rest its top two qbs, Jacoby Brissett and
Gardner Minshew. Beck was a third round so The Atlanta
Falcons gave running back be Shawn Robinson a three year
extension worth over fifty million dollars, guaranteed he'd been a
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hold in at camp, just like Detroit's Jamier Gibbs. Falcons
edge rusher Jalen Walker likely suffered a torn acl in practice.
The Bears gave right tackle Darnell Wright a four year
extension worth over ninety million dollars guaranteed they'd already picked
up his fifth year option. Ravens wide receiver Za Flowers
agreed to a four year extension worth one hundred eight
(31:27):
million dollars guaranteed. He had twelve hundred yards receiving for
them last year, thirty seven percent of Baltimore's total. Eagles
wide receiver DeVante Smith missed practiced today with a hamstring injury,
as did Philadelphia rookie McKay Lemon. Packers defensive lineman Micah
Parsons says it's very realistic that he'll be back for
Week six against Dallas. He's coming back from last year's
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torn acl. Dolphins president and CEO Tom Garfink will step down.
In college football's preseason coaches pol Ohio State is number one.
Carlos Alcarez with drew from the Cincinnati Open and in baseball,
the Dodgers have just lost their fifth game in a row.
The Cubs beat them five to one. New Dodger pitcher
Trek Scoogle allowed two runs in his six innings of work,
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six strikeouts, first start with his new team and at
Triple A in They say his final rehab start pitcher
Blake Snell of LA allowed three runs in three and
two third innings four walks. If All's well, he could
return to the Dodgers next week. LA pitcher Tyler Glass
now threw two scoreless innings at a ball today, but
at the major league level, the Dodgers record since July first,
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thirteen and fourteen. Milwaukee beat Pittsburgh forty two. The Brewers
have the best record in the Majors overall, seventy and
forty three. As for the Giants, they're at Texas, a
team that's lost six in a row, and Texas is
leading going to the ninth four to two over San Francisco.
Houston has won seven to two against Toronto. The Blue
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Jays starting pitcher Trey Ya Savage left with a sore knee.
Kansas City and Atlanta with wins. Braves have won six straight.
Boston won at sixth in a row, fourteen to two
over the White Sox. The Yankee shut out Saint Louis
to nothing. George Lombard junior homerd for his first major
league hit. Philadelphia shut out Washington five nothing. That's seven
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straight losses for the Nationals and Washington All Star outfielder
James Wood was placed on the IL with a strained oblique.
Cincinnati one with two runs in the eighth, both on
wild pitches, five to four over the A's, who've lost
six in a row. Victories for Baltimore and the Mets.
You referenced Tampa Bay. They did have ex met Freddie
Peralta as their starting pitcher tonight. He allowed seven runs
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in three and two thirds. It is Colorado seven to
five over Tampa Beck.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Now, wait, Steve, now, wait, Steve, you have to go
back here. Team with the bet that's undefeated since the
trade deadline, New York Mets. That's right, Cleveland, their former pitcher,
Freddy Peralta. Just gotta be right. I watching to make
sure you're right.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
That's a win for the New York Mets.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Who's right?
Speaker 7 (33:58):
It wasn't that long ago, maybe over a year ago?
On this show, it was a constant I'm sorry, anchor,
who is the best team in Major League Baseball? Best
record in Yeah, that would.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Be the time. Been a long time since that.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It seems like a long time.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's been so long. It's been so long that Nicks
won the title.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
That Rockies lead is bottom of the seventh against the
Rays seven to five, and Detroit is shutting out the
Mariners three to nothing. In the fourth, Padres up six
nothing at Arizona at the end of three.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Back to you, beg you, Steve, Jason Smith Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Are Radio studios. Coming up next,
we have a big double barrel story coming here from
a big football poll that was released today. That's coming
up next right here, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, This is
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. And as we said a few minutes ago,
check the boxes on a lot of Baseball World Cup.
Lebron picked a team. Now, Yeah, it's time for football,
Big football night to night. Thanks to Jason Locking for
for stopping by a few minutes ago. Again, more NFL
coming up in a few minutes. But today a big
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dang college football because we got the first Coaches Poll
Top twenty five teams in the College Football Coaches Poll
was released today. Syracuse number Ohio State number one, followed
by Oregon, Georgia, Texas, and Notre Dame. Those are your
top five. Wait wait a minute, we're the defending champs.
Well that's take number one. Indiana sits at six overall
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right now, just behind Notre Dame, just ahead of Miami.
And when I saw this, I said, uh great, this
is gonna be Kurt Signetti. Now it's gonna be a
month or whoever, you know, whatever it is till till
the first game, another three weeks of just look at
them disrespecting us. They don't even make my order at
Chipotle the right way anymore. It's what have you done
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for me lately? Look at us at numbers that no
one is going to use this as bulletin board more
than kurtz Signetti is here the defending champs and we're
clocking a minute number six.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Well, I mean, look, we had this story.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
They were disrespected by not being disrespected. That was Liam
Cohen when it came to all of the regression talk
and the pictures of Caleb Williams and everything going on
with the Bears, like we won thirteen games, tell us
how bad we're gonna be. We need some bulletin board
material and Ben Johnson just laughed at him.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Signetti just seems to.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Be a guy that'll uh, He'll have his one or
two tourist comments about it, and they'll move on. Made
to some degree, you have to wonder how much now
they're only returning ten starters, a lot of movement, obviously
mendozes off to the Raiders, but how much of it
is the Well, it's Indiana. If it had been another
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defending champ, they would have just been put in as
number one with the old Rick Flair mantra to be
the man, you have to beat the man.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
See. I always like you know who had a great
take on that with mel kiper Junior, who I did
a bunch of shows with at ESPN for a long time.
Mel's a great dude, we tell you know, ten years
almost ten years. I talked to Mel you know, a
couple times a week. His idea was always, whoever the
defending champion is, should start the next year at number
one and stay number one until they lose. Like he said,
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I think that's the best way to do it, the
fairest way. You won last year, you come in as
the number one team in the country. Obviously, if you're
good and you're still winning. You stay number one. If
you lose, you lose. But the defending champs should aways
come in at number one. I thought, yeah, that's pretty cool.
I could dig that. I dig that you're number one
until somebody beat you. I like that.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Oh you got the belt right into twenty four to
seven championship. Come and take it from me.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Now. The other part of it is this, and this
is what I look and I go, you know, this
is gonna get me sick of the SEC way quicker.
So the SEC has nine teams in the top twenty five.
That's the most right when when obviously the SEC loves
to talk about how great they are. The Big ten
is better than the SEC. All you have to do
is look at the last few national champions and you
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see that that's the case. But the SEC just whinds
and complains so much about how we're still the best,
We're still great. Like I wonder if half of the
SIDS whoever wound up voting in this pool, just said,
you know what, let's just put a bunch of SEC
teams in there, just so I don't have to hear
them complain about how they're underrepresented the top twenty five
and we need more teams on the playoff, and all
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I don't want to hear them in the middle of
August while I'm on vacation talk about how we're the
best conference, and how do you only have six teams?
How do we only have how we have as many
as the ACC here with it. We need to break away,
We need to like, let's just put them with nine
teams so they can just shut up for three weeks.
We get three weeks a piece, because honestly, I've had
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it with the SEC in there talk about how great
a conference they are. I've kind of had it with that,
So I really wonder if this is Hey, let's just
have a nice, easy summer. It's hot already. Let's just
let them worry about other stuff. Let's make sure they
got they got nine teams. Is that the most teams? Okay, great,
they can't really complain about not being number one. We're fine,
Ohio State. Let's just make sure they got nine teams
in there so I can have a nice vacation.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
And then we go through and how much you know,
how many big teams they're gonna play. We've been talking
about the renewal of some of these rivalries down the
road when coaches have long been fired or moved on
to other jobs. But for this process, I just like that.
For forever, it was the SEC is the greatest conference,
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and that's how they tagged themselves because of the titles
being won. And then as soon as they weren't winning titles,
it became about other rankings and other metrics, and the
goalpost got moved.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like Jerry Jones, how he's you know, how he merits
success with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Well, I mean long ago he turned into the brand
of Jerry Jones and all that is Dallas, right, I
mean the fact that they're talking about actually winning this
year is a is a nice return to grassroots and
actually talking about the football team, right, the greatest offense
there is.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I just think that it's not about hey, look at
these great games we're gonna host, tier or how many
sold out concerts. You know what a venue we have
here in Dallas. No, no, no, no no, it's back to
de brass tax of my man wants to win again.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, it's great. Well, you should always get the Cowboys,
you should always want to win.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
But it was always lurking in the underbelly. Now it's
back out for all of us to see. Jerry and
Nic Hubris. That's what we need.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Oh man, I'll tell you I'm okay with that. But
the SEC, I'm I'm done with the SEC. I want
them to just stop that second play, just stop coming
up next? How about this? Yeah? What could be our
first Super Bowl pick of the preseason? Fucks and how
things go. But I'll tell you what, now, we're a
week into training camp and seeing how how teams are acclimating. Honestly,
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it's gonna be hard for me to not pick an
All LA Super Bowl. It really is gonna be hard
for you to not pick that. Like obviously the Rams.
The Rams are that good. You had the best defensive
player in football to that team, look out right, I mean,
I mean, what else do you expect? Maybe Aaron Donald
on his way back. Potentially it looks like he is
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going to come back at some point, probably not from
the beginning of the season, probably later on when he
says I'm ready and good to go.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
But if he doesn't come back, yeah, if he ultimately
doesn't come back, he's worse than Lebron James Aaron Rodgers
and anybody else that woffled about retirement ever was.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I think we'd know that by now. I think if
he wasn't gonna come back, it would be it would
be where we would say, okay, because guys know, right,
they tried for it.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
He pased it all last year too.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, but I think you know he was wait waiting.
Maybe he needed a time away, his body is feeling good.
Maybe the Ram didn't want to pay him money last year.
But I'll tell you the Rams clearly super Bowl caliber team,
maybe maybe the best team, maybe the best roster there.
But again, you add the best defensive player in the NFL. Uh, yeah,
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it's gonna be that. That's a twenty sac guy. How
are you gonna beat them? Right? Sohouse, But the Chargers
and their roster and their health going into this season
already seeing rave reviews about Mike McDaniel, the work he's
been doing with Justin Herbert, some of the footwork to
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make it easier to throw the football a little bit
more like everything I have seen coming out of Charger
camp has just been electric. And obviously the big question
is can they stay healthy on the offensive line. That
was a big thing that killed them last.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Year, right, my man? Already I'm back in the tent.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, I mean, I know, I know, I know. But
that's the thing why you have to wait and see
how August goes, because you know it happened this fast
for the Chargers last year too. But if their offensive
line is healthy, I don't know that they need anything
else in a wide open AFC, because that's the thing.
It's not like you're walking in going, okay, this is
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your overwhelming Ferry. No, no, there's not that overwhelming team. Right.
You're gonna You're gonna get a regression a little bit
from the Patriots. Are the Bills still that great? Is
anybody in the North still that great? The South is
gonna be the South? So here we are? Why not us? Right?
The Chiefs have some are gonna have problems, right, I
already have problems with some of their weapons. The Chargers,
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this is a really, really good team. They had everything
they needed last year and then two of their best
offensive linemen got hurt and things got a little bit
more difficult for Justin Herbert. But they have the right guy.
We talked about Mike McDaniel coming in. This is what
he does better than almost anybody else. Is what the
work he does with Justin Herbert this year, he knows,
is what's gonna get me a head coaching job in
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the NFL a year from now. Right, That's what it's
gonna make the Jets call him and going, hey, we
saw what you did there with Herbert. You know we
got Dante Moore coming in. We look like you work
with him. He knows that's what's going to be whatever.
He doesn't matter if he turns Justin Herbert into a
top five, top seven NFL quarterback for an entire season, Yeah,
he's getting that gig. But already seeing some of the
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stuff he is subtly doing with him to get him
the football out of his hands a little bit easier.
It's really I don't know that I can pick against
the Chargers this year. They seemingly have everything they need.
Could they be a little bit better at wide receiver, Yeah,
a little bit, But I think it's case where if
the offensive line is really good, Herbert's good enough, he's
gonna make Lad McConkie back into being Lad McConkie. And
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they have enough depth that could be a they could
be a candidate for a trade at the deadline wide receiver. Hey,
they need somebody big to come in, you know, kind
of like the Rams getting DeVante Adams stuff like that.
But outside of that, man, I'll tell you it's gonna
be really hard to not pick an all away Super
Bowl this year.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Right now, I'm waiting a response from our executive producer,
Justin Crossberg as to your prediction on the Chargers. Oh,
I can't even read that on air.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
All right, So, but the.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Fact we love Keenan Allen Allen stats for days he's gone,
which lets Lad McConkie go back to his role. He's
not fighting for footballs in that spot.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Good.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
It's all about Alton Slater. Can they stay healthy? Last
year they were down to what do we talk in
tackles five, six, seven before it's all said and done.
Hampton proved himself to be a pretty good runner. You
bring in Keaton Mitchell, who, if he's healthy, is a
game breaker. Like that's a one look and gone kind
of guy. So that's pretty exciting. Thedell performed well in
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spots last year as well. Yeah, you'd like to have
more next to Q and Trey Harris. They need more
out of him in his second year the tight end position.
They did bring in Joku behind Gadsden the second as
we look at that, so it's all good. And obviously
the defense is strong when we look at Super Bowl
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odds overall, because this is the fun part of it,
right start getting down in the numbers. The Bills are
ten to one, Ravens at twelve to one, Chargers at
sixteen to one, same as the Chiefs, with the Patriots
not too far behind, and then you got a little
bit of a gap before you get to Houston and
those Cincinnati Bengals tied with Denver at nineteen to one.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, I mean, I know that there's a ways to go.
And again, you don't know how the health of teams
is going to shake out, and it could happen for anybody.
You never know. See we've seen team seasons end in
August before. But I mean, I don't know. I really
don't know who I would take outside of the Chargers.
I don't think i'd take anybody outside of the Rams.
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The only thing that would stop me because say you
really want to pick, you know, two teams in the
same city, Like, is that really going to happen? Like that?
That's the only anomaly that really is affecting me right now.
Is okay taking it in absolute charges in the AFC
rams in the NFC, okay, great, But you know, here's
two teams that they're in the same city. Is that
really gonna happen? I gotta, I gotta think, I gotta,
I gotta get I gotta get rid of that anomaly
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out of my out of my my thinking, because that's
the only thing right now that would stop me from it.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I'm gonna try to figure out what that parlay is
to get to that super Bowl matchup and what it
would what it would pay out for you smith to
have that happens. It will be at so far.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I gotta think the I gotta think the odds are
a little bit greater on that than maybe in all
New York super Bowl. So there is that, No that
is true.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
That is just just a little bit longer, no question
about it.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
I mean just just I mean really, it's it's all
of that. Can all of that converge, Can all of
that converge in one all la both teams super Bowl?
Can all of that really happen? Like I mean, I
don't know, I don't know if I should take that
into account maybe actually, like, is that really gonna happen
or are we going to look back, you know, fifty
years ago and of course in twenty twenty six every
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first time we had two tam up. Like, I don't know, man,
I I really but that's the only thing that would
stop me. According to the nothing on the field would
stop me. Just the math odds, I guess of that
is what would stop Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
According to a the Football Power Index, this is an
ESPN creation. If you were to match that up, uh,
it's approximately two point two likelihood, which would make it
the seventh most likely specific Super Bowl pairing according to
a quick Wow.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Okay, all right, I feel better. See now, I feel
better that more that that it thinks it's actually a
little more possible. Well, I mean they are off the
beaten path.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Then they are two of the top seven favorites for
the Super Bowl. So I mean looking at massive odds here.
But the big question is when when do you When
do people decide they don't love Justin Herbert anymore?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, I'll tell you, man, that's why we went when
when they hired Mike McDaniel, that was such a big move,
that was such a big move.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Telling you if nothing else, is going to give us
some great quotes because he better be available to the media.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
That's all I can say.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We
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