December 24, 2024 • 40 mins
Mike Harmon and Dan Beyer, in for Jason Smith, react to a lopsided Monday Night Football game between the Packers and Saints, and Dan has a theory why this awful game was shoved down our throats. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to give insight on the Commanders push for the playoffs. Plus, one wide receiver should be getting the De'Vondre Campbell treatment!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Green Eggs and welcome in.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Another beautiful week begins here The Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Now Jason Smith tonight has big voice.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Bob had to tell you stanm Byer in his stead,
my tag team partner, longtime colleague here at Fox Sports Rade,
and of course the I Watch Your Flex podcast that
we dial up multiple times each and every week, making
you a little bit smarter, sometimes making ourselves look a
little less so. But Dan keeps me on even keel.
And we're almost through the end of the regular season.
(00:58):
We'll have an airing of the grievances late, Dan. But
you're fresh off a flight, fresh off the Midwest, the skies,
the highways, the byeways.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
How it all go fresh off the snow, the chill,
the ears still haven't popped, Mike, But this is fun.
I love when you and I get together, and as
you said, we get together on the I Want Your
Flex podcast. But there is always something just a little
different when I'm in for you. I don't know if
it feels dirty, if it feels like maybe like I
know that you're with Jason Smith, but I'm kind of
(01:26):
like cheating. So it's this secret sort of thing. But
I'm happy to be here for the next four hours.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well you know what is an open secret?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Four hundred affiliates nationwide, the IHEA radio app. I mean global, global,
I mean just putting it out in everybody's face. Twenty
one nothing your Monday night football score. Not really aesthetically
pleasing in any sense of the world word at this point.
Josh Jacobs with his sixty four yards and a touchdown
Jordan Love pedestrian one thirty six and one, but a
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yeoman like effort against an overmatched, undermanned, and frankly discombobulated, pathetic, underprepared.
What other word can I use to describe what the
Saints are put together?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I have no idea why the NFL would say this
is what the audience wants on Christmas Eve Eve It.
It doesn't make sense in a flex situation, and keeping
this game in like it didn't make sense at the
beginning of the season to think that in Week sixteen
the Saints would have anything to play for, whether Derek
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Carr was healthy or not healthy. I don't know why
the NFL would want to schedule a game like this. Well,
actually I do, because they want to make the Packers
seem great. They want the Thursday they or they want
the Monday night football lore and the cold weather, and
they want that look for their broadcast because everybody loves
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wintery mix and watching those games on TV. That's the
exact reason that they did it. They loved it when
it was snowing in Cleveland. They loved it when it
was snowing in Buffalo, Hey, late December, right before Christmas.
Let's go to Green Bay. Who should we put against them?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
The Saints.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You set it on the list in the studio. I
set it on the list in our studio. Worst team
in the NFL at the beginning of the season. They've overachieved, Dan.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
They have overachieved, and we thought that in Derek Carr
and they don't even have him tonight. Why this game
is being played on a Monday night, I have no
idea except for the NFL trying to push their conspiracy
and having some winter Wonderland fun for the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
In the end, it is a TV show, so we
get that. So if you get a little bit of
a weather element to it, that it gives folks something
extra to watch. In this case, it's fantasy playoff games
and whether they cover the robust fourteen or fourteen and
a half point number that was put up for the
Packers here obviously Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs, and maybe
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you decided to delve down into those wide receivers. I
wouldn't touch them with a ten football, even in a
plus matchup, because which guy's gonna get fed? You have
no idea. We talked about it a little in the podcast.
You were in route to your homeland, as Ian and
I sat down. It's like, you look at some of
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the numbers when you go to Jayden Reed, you really
love him, great, he's got fifty catches, right, not on
a week to week basis, trying to guess who's gonna
get fed outside of Jacob's has been a miserable construct
and even today, hey Musgrave's back that it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He is still Tucker Craft. Go go in and get
him involved a bunch.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But to your point about you know the Packers and
what they are, You've got history, so you always get
to give people a nice little history lesson of your
league when you go to lambeau Field. The pageantry, the
pomp and circumstance and everything. Yeah, the Saints, I mean
they're not only missing Car. There's no a Lave, there's
no Kamara. Carr was still having a really good season
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despite the chaos, inconsistency and just futured play around him.
But all that to say, yeah, and we're flexing everything
else we're putting in a mini It might as well
be the Emirates Cup Light with those four teams that
are playing Saturday and Wednesday, and yet this game stands alone.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
How we flexed out the Cowboys out of a game,
right right, right like, but nothing sacred.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Let's keep the Saints though. Let's make sure that the
Saints and Packers stays in the spot that it needs
to remember the days the Aints, Yeah they are the
Ain't nobody good playing tonight? That's who they are. They're
not the Aints. It's just ain't nobody good playing for
the Saints tonight. And that's the mess that we get
and should we expect twenty four to nothing? This is
just this is a three hour parade, like there's nothing.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
To worry about.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Guarantee people will be leaving in the fourth quarter because
now you've got Christmas plans. You don't want to be
stranded out at night. But there's no reason for this game.
I know that you can't a week out change a
Monday night game, but still to the point of what
we thought the same we're going to be at the
beginning of the year, Mike and now with an interimed coach,
and I know they went on a mini run, you know,
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a few weeks back. Still not enough worthy enough to
keep this as a Monday night game, except for the
hope of snow and for the great vibes that you
get from playing a game at Lambeaufield in December.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean Rizzy doesn't match the the heat and
genesis of social media clicks like his guy the Rizzler.
I mean it's close because I've seen those side by
sides at points and he does get a little fiery
on the sideline, but I don't think it has the
same juice. But for the Packers, man, you're going to
be an eleven win team taking care of business. Yeoman
(06:41):
like defense as we talked about on the pod, but
bringing it to everybody here in this space. You know,
finally all the turnovers that we'd been projecting and waiting
for with this defense coming in Spain. I think it
was the twenty seventh tonight earlier on one of the
more inexplicable fumbles you'll see, where as like someone was
gonna about to get mugged. And I don't not make
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light of people getting robbed. It is a very real thing,
but it's the Hey, here's my wallet. That's what Rattler
did with the football. As the defender went to take it,
he just kind of flipped it up into no man's last. Yeah,
just take it, keep me safe. He still got run
through into the end of the turf. Later was the
beneficiary of one of the worst roughing the passer calls
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I've seen all season long, which is a whole other
referendum on refereeing that needs to happen as well as if.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You were going to have the you know, the everybody
does the Czar of Sports end of year. What would
I change?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, officiating really needs some something. I don't know how
and what, but yeah, it's it's gone into a really
bad space. Fortunately it's a blowout, so one or two
miss calls or bad clock work aren't gonna matter here.
But the Packers roll on in what has been a
nondescript game.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Maybe maybe this will come out of the airing of
grievances as well with the thoughts about officiating. But on
art I Want Your Flex podcast, a few weeks back,
maybe a month or two ago, we went down the
list of teams that we thought could win the Super Bowl.
And I'm not trying to rain or snow on Green
Bay's parade at all with the Monday night game and
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saying that the NFL purposely put them here because Mike,
you could attest to it that I felt Green Bay
was a legit Super Bowl contender. And when I was
back home in Wisconsin this past week, I had aunts
and cousins in saying, how do you think the Packers
are gonna do? My opinion really means nothing, but I
do believe in this team as a legit possibility to
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win Super Bowl fifty nine when you look at how
the things in the NFC are shaking out. I just
don't think tonight tells us anything about them.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Oh no, we don't learn anything. This is a get in,
do your job, try to get out healthy. That's it.
Make sure so because as long as Josh Jacobs is
running as he is, and right now, Jordan Love is
on a streak, and I don't want to jinx it,
but it's four plus games without a pick. Like he's
taking care of the football sure, right, which is one
of the big, big caveats to a lot of players,
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Like all right, there's great explosive plays and opportunities, and
he spreads the ball around a ton, as we've spoken of.
I mean, just go down what their stats were coming
into this week sixteen finale. Here is that you've got
a number of guys at twenty five thirty forty catches.
You don't have a guy that needs to be fed
one hundred and fifty times. And that's the greatness of
the team. Does that work forever? Maybe maybe not, but
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Watson at one point probably should have been hit for
a touchdown. Now, Love found another option that got him
a first. How often can you do that before someone
feels like they need to be fed, whether it's contract
incentives or just hey, trying to put stuff on tape
because I got to get paid too, and fractures there.
But for the moment, you're up twenty four to nothing
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and moving forward. But you look at the NFC as
a whole. I mean, Jalen her went out with a concussion.
What does that mean for a week? For two weeks
for their end of the season. You go down the list.
In Minnesota, you've got Sam Darnold, great story. Everybody keeps saying, yeah,
but like he's, you know, a thirty five year old
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guy that's been weaving his way throughout the league. No,
he's still a young guy, came in young. Yes, he's
bounced a bit. That's more circumstance, I think than him necessarily.
But he's found the right spot. And you've got a
defense playing lights out football. You roll through the Lions.
Does the attrition eventually hit them?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
May not. Defense.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
They've lost so many guys that were starters, and David
Montgomery thinks he's gonna have the Festivus miracle and be
able to play issuing surgery. I don't know that whether
that happens or not, but you know you've got all
that to say that that's pretty much your your bubble, right.
I mean, the West, someone's heading in, but are they
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a contender or not. I don't know how much I
believe in the Rams or or the I don't get
in deeper.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I don't think the Rams can win the Super Bowl.
I do think the Rams are the team you don't
want to play.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Does that make sense? Sure?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I think that's simple enough where I don't think they're
gonna run through the NFC and end up in New Orleans.
But if I'm sitting there at Green Bay and I'm
the sixth seed, is the wild card because of the
greatness of Detroit and Minnesota so far this season, going
to LA and facing the Rams maybe isn't as ideal
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as another possibility, like being able to face of being
able to face the winner of the NFC South, whoever
that may be. Like, there's a distinct advantage for the
fifth seed wild card playing the fourth seed in the
NFC South, But I don't think that the I think
Green Bay could go to LA and handle the Rams.
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But I just don't think it's the fact of that
we think automatic victory when it comes to that scenario.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Can't wait to see how many folks got some extra
dollars or Christmas bonuses at their jobs in Wisconsin to
come back out to Los Angeles for an early January vacation.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Tell you what, Las Vegas and the warm weather, they're
ready to go. Let's get out of.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There, find their way, is no question about it. Dan
byer in for Jason Smith tonight. You see him are
and hear him with Doug Gottlieb mid Day's The Red
Zone Radio two to five Pacific time here on Sundays
at Danmire on Fox. Of course, he's always with me
on the iWatch Flex podcast find me over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh and Blue Sky, Blue Sky.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Dan already sent out the pre show tweet.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
If you call it a tweet, I don't know post.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Post x, I don't know what it is. Yeah, And
I met Mike Carmen over at Blue Sky as well.
So all of that to say, we've got a lot
on the show tonight. We'll dive into some of those fantasy,
good and bad stories out of Week sixteen, wrap up
what we saw as we head towards playoffs, and who
better to do it with than a guy that's gonna
join us next, Our buddy Jason Lockin for hits up
(13:06):
the show with us next here on.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 4 (13:20):
Hey, welcome back in smooth jazzy holiday holiday Holiday version
Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Carman. No Jason Smith tonight,
Dan byer In instead as we wait for the clock
to tick tick tick tick down on the final minutes
of Week sixteen of the National Football League season. Nobody
better to recap you with Dan than our guy Jason
(13:42):
Locket for it, joins us on the hotline as he
does each and every week. Ought to see NFL Insider
one O five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post,
Long time NFL insider Mary Christmas, you and mister Locke
and forth, Thanks for taking a few minutes with us
this evening.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
How are you I'm doing well, hope you guys are
doing the same, and but this game isn't putting you
to sleep while you're on your shift. Here.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Now, I'm making sure that the heat got turned down
a little bit so we got a little bit of
air circulating, because otherwise it's suffocating me just a little
bit each and every play. Pretty nondescript, Yeoman like work
for the Packers, But hey, they're going to cover that
robust fourteen and a half point face it looks like this.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Looks like they will and hopefully this thing goes on
there as well as I thought it would. And they
covered the eight and a half in the first half,
So yeah, yeah, Now, just Jordan loves stuff throwing the
ball and it off forget him out of the game.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Josh Jacobs would be one of the guys that you
would want to hand off the ball to.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
But when you're up twenty four to nothing, why I
have him in the game.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
The question I have for you, Jason is this, does
this Packer team run the football? If they bring back
Aaron Jones and do what they did last year the
way that they've done it this year with Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
I mean, Joe's had a really nice season for the Vikings.
You know, would it be quite this effective? Probably not.
I mean I think their concern with Jones was just
the injuries were really mounting and he was having, you know,
trouble being available as much as they would like. It
turned out to a pretty durable season so far for Minnesota.
(15:20):
I think I don't think Jordan Love was healthy in
the first half of the season, you know. I mean,
that was a weird injury in the Brazil game. He
came back faster than I think anybody kind of thought,
and he didn't look good for a few weeks.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
You know.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
After that, I really felt like you watch him throwing,
he was throwing off his back foot. It just he
did not look comfortable to me really, probably until around
week ten or so. You know. The interceptions I think
had a lot to do with with with maybe him
compensating for some some some injuries or maladies or whatever.
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But we saw it. Team is capable of in the
playoffs last year, and I know that division is tough.
I know the NFC this year seems tougher than it's
been in a long time. But I wouldn't discount their chances.
It's still a really young team. They learned a lot
from their experience last year, but not one of these
teams that you know, can't play in different conditions or
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have to be home to win, so I I, you know,
I think it'd be really interesting to see how these
matchups come out and where they go.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
How deep is the fields? Do you think in terms
of a Super Bowl contender in the NFC? What do
you where do you cut it off?
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Mmm? I we don't think the winner of the NFC
South is going to represent them in the Super Bowl.
Outside of that, I, you know, and I don't know
about the Commando's doing it, you know, with a rookie quarterback,
I tend to think that won't happened. But everybody else,
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I mean, I could make a case for the Rams.
I mean that coach has done it, that quarterback's done it.
Like you know, they were pretty formidable playoff team last year.
Detroit's running out of players, but they're not running out
of moxie, they're not running out of points scored. And
they're alive as fuck as they're alive, and who knows,
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maybe Hodginson comes back at some point. Minnesota just keeps winning.
We just touched all in Green Bay here, and you know,
the Eagles, I don't know what Vic Fangio was doing
blitzing the hell out of Jayden Daniels. I mean, he
sat back, played coverage on that young man the first
game and Washington couldn't convert on third down. He tried
to throw the house at him in this one, and
it really came back to fight him. But the Eagles
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we talked about for ten weeks, didn't lose, and they
you know, they beat the snot out of Baltimore physically,
they beat the snot out of Pittsburgh physically. That's not
stuff that happens all the time. So that's that's a
damn good football team. So yeah, I mean, could any
of those teams be the last one standing in that conference?
I think?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So what is it with dan Quinn and what he's
done with the Commanders? And I don't know, maybe I'm
giving him too much credit for what he has done,
considering the close games that they've won and how they've
won some.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Of those games.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But do you go back to the coaching cycle, they
were the last team to make a higher. The higher
was uninspiring because it wasn't a hot young coordinator and
it was felt like it was like, all right, we're
gonna settle for dan Quinn and it's worked out so far.
What has he done to make this team a playoff contender?
Speaker 8 (18:36):
They drafted the right quarterback?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, I mean, well that's probably You're probably right, Honestly,
I mean.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
If this kid's not this kind of generational talent, who's
one games with his arm, one games with his moxie,
one games with his legs, I mean, it's not a
superior offensive line. The defense has looked pretty damn pedestrian
at times. It's certainly he's instilled a degree of competency
in them defensively, and I think that's a team that
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had a lot of individual talent for years but didn't
show up. But why was that not one of the
best d lines in football? Why could people run on
them inside? And why could people run on them outside?
So I think he certainly instilled certain standards and certain beliefs,
but I mean, not particularly great at anything other than
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this quarterback making unbelievable plays in the fourth quarter of
games that you know, really or not even just in
the fourth quarter, but most recently in the fourth quarter
of games, and just having this sort of collective belief.
And I'll give him credit for that, but it's Jade
daniels Man. I mean, I think that is that's the
number one.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Thing, Jason.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
We've got this four team in season tournament going on
Saturday Wednesday games, almost like the NBA's Emirates Cup. Does
anybody get an extra half million dollar bonus if they
win the point differential or whatever? I mean, I got
to imagine there's a lot of grouse in there in Baltimore,
even even with the win and everything else, of having
to turn right around.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
It's tough stretch. I mean, they're trying not to whine
about it publicly, and you know, they don't want the
players fixated on it. And look, if they managed to
win all three of these games, then you're talking about
they had the latest by possible, right, which you don't love.
But if you come out of it, play three times
in eleven games, win all three or in position to
potentially beat the Browns to win the division, and you
(20:30):
get ten days off before you face the Browns, you know,
so you kind of get get a buy and then
another mini buy that would you know? I think that
wouldn't be the worst scenario in the world. Now, this
game is Houston will be tricky on Wednesday. I do
think they'll win that game, though, and Texas do a
lot of things well, but my god, they've given up
twenty eight pass and touchdowns and I got a feeling
(20:52):
Lamar's got a hat trick in him. He might have
five in them. I don't buy Houston's offense. I don't
buy Bobby Slowick' I don't buy their ability to compensate
for a terrible offensive line. I think they've scored the
fewest or the third fewest, second or third fewest offensive
touchdowns in the second half of games all year. They
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don't really make adjustments, they don't make corrections. I don't
think they're going to be able to run their offense
through Joe Mixon and keep pace with the Ravens short
week or not. And yeah, if Baltimore does take care
of business there, then you know they get another sort
of buy two weeks or three, basically two weeks after
having a buy. So it could be worse, it could
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be worse, and them beating the Steelers was obviously huge.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
The crazy thing about this is when you're looking at
the schedule and I don't know what the NFL can do,
and next year, Christmas is on a Thursday, so you
don't have to worry about this wacky schedule maybe for
five years or so, and however they want to do it.
But is there a happy medium to do to like
play these market games, because my problem with it is
(22:00):
you have four a FC teams that are in the
absolute think of it with these games almost meaning too
much on a on a short schedule, like I know,
you can't throw a dog like you've got tonight on
Christmas Day having Saints and Packers play. But is there
any any way to sort of resolve this because your
point is, yeah, Ravers, you know, Ravens beat the Steelers,
but that's a you know, that's a tough road to hoe.
(22:22):
And you've got these all of these a FC playoff
competitors playing in this unique window.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I don't know if there's a happy meeting when it
comes to extreme gluttony and Greek I just think we're raping.
I play more games for playing a game in India
or playing or wherever they're going to play in an
(22:51):
international game, reopen the CBA and once they had a
week to the regular season, uh by on top of that,
which makes even more international games.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
The take.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
Through the end of February and almost in the March,
and it's it's I just think it's it's just that
that they're going to do whatever they can to have
as many cash crabs as possible. Like it's it's that's
just who they are, it's what they believe in. It's
it's what the billionaires are the league and Goodell is
(23:29):
just a useful foil for them, and this is what
they want and this is where it's going. So this
is this is what this is what they'll get and
this is what we'll watch. And I mean it's there's
there's no detendlums not swinging back.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well, no, I mean especially that, I mean the players,
as much as it may be a difficult conversation to
have initially, you show the bank accounts of what they
get off of each extra dollar earned, I think everybody
sleeps a little better at night. One of the results
that had everybody up in arms was the fact that
Las Vegas came out and beat the Jacksonville Jaguars, a
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game that maybe fifteen people watched unless they had some
fantasy interests there, mister locking Forth, but we're talking about
the end of the regular season and draft jockeying and
you know, position jockeying, I guess and all of that
fun stuff. It's, you know, just that curiosity when they
start making the jerseys a couple of weeks early and
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then the team goes out and wins a game. Mark
Mark Davis couldn't have been happy.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
No, no, and you know things are kind of falling
the Giants way. But there's been other times in the
past where they've been their own worst enemy, or situations
have conspired against them, and they haven't picked quite as
high as I think a lot of Giants fans would
have hoped. I mean, look, it's it's tricky, it's tricky, wicked,
(24:57):
Like I don't think Mark Davis goes to Antonio Pearson says, hey,
I need you to lose this one, right, and if
you do, it's going to make me more inclined to
keep you around, because I just don't think it works
that way. And if they get the first overall Dick
or where they're taking a quarterback first or second overall, like,
are we going to just blow up the offensive staff
(25:18):
again or you know, because I don't think they're giving
them the North Turner who came in on an interim basis,
like are you giving it to like you're going to
keep Pierson? Say, hi are another coordinator? Like I tend
to think that thing is going in a certain direction anyway,
So what are you going to tell the guy to do, like,
you know, coach backwards and try to lose. It's just
it is, It is what it is. You know, Look,
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they're they're going to have to draft a quarterback. They've
had a hell of a time developing a quarterback. They haven't,
I mean, they have they really done it, Like I
mean even Car, Like do we really count Car? I
mean I guess like maybe it's like they had a
whole lot of playoff glory with Car, but he's still
in the league, So I guess they've on a quarterback there.
(26:05):
But they've had a hell of time doing it. So
I don't know that it's going to work out, But
it just sort of is what it is. It looks like,
you know, they and the Giants I think will take
quarterbacks whether they're picking one and three and two or
two and three or one and two, and outside of that,
I think it'll be sort of a normal draft. It's
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not going to be like the last few for certain where.
You know, all that quarterback jockeying really kind of trumped
everything else. It's just not shaping up that way.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Do you think the NFL would have a preference on
who gets number one? I mean, you know, we talk
in these terms. I know, though maybe it's not how
it's done in real world. But Giants versus Raiders. Do
you think there'd be a preference for what would be
more buzzworthy?
Speaker 8 (26:50):
Well, I think they'd like I mean, both those are
historic franchises. They're both, you know, the Giants, like the
Giants and the Jets. I think, since twenty seventeen, have
the two worst records in the NFL. Like the league
having both those teams being complete, you know, jackass failures.
I don't think they love that. I don't think it's great.
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So could one of them turn it around with a
young quarterback? I think they'd really like to see that happen.
I don't think they like the fact that, you know,
airspace ten minutes from league headquarters keep flying planes over
there talking about how backwards an owner is, even if
he absolutely is. And Vegas has got the Sparkling Stadium
and you know, it's an iconic franchise, but it's the
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other team's fans who are there feeling it, so you know,
I think they'd like to see both those teams turning around.
It's gonna be tough for the Raiders though. I mean,
let's be real about that division. He got three head
coaches who are all really, really legitimate, and they all
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have quarterbacks. I think both Knicks is going to be
solid enough. It's gonna be tough, Flating, man, You're going
to have to have a quarterback and a head coach
who know what they're doing if you're going to compete
in the AFC West. You know, over the next three,
four or five years or ever long. Andy Readon wants
to keep doing it. So yeah, good luck.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Simply simply put, good luck with that. Jason Locking for
our guest ought to see NFL Insider one O five
seven the Fan in Baltimore, Washington Post. Jason, always appreciate
you stopping by. Look forward to getting back with you
as we creep into twenty twenty five. Merry Christmas to
you and your family and enjoy the game on Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
Thank you guys as always, Happy Holidays and I hope
you guys are a great week.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Thank you great Jason. Take care at Jason locking for
where you find him on Twitter. Find Dan at Dan
Byron Fox, find me over at Swollen Dome. So I'm
gonna turn our attention to a man unlike any other.
He's a legend, the man, the legend of the myth.
It's our guy, Steve de Seger.
Speaker 9 (28:55):
This Monday night football game is about as bad as
we all imagined.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No, it really lived up to the hype. Not a
lot of things do, steen, So we should be thankful
for that. I guess that's my back back door way
of saying.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
That, unless you're a Packer fan, of course. Green Bay
leads twenty four to nothing over the New Orleans Saints
about eight and a half minutes to go in the
fourth quarter. Packers scored touchdowns on their first three drives,
led twenty one nothing at the half. Current stats total
yardage New Orleans about one fifty five, Green Bay with
three fifty five. Spencer Ratler, tonight's starting quarterback for the Saints,
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with two turnovers. Josh Jacobs on the ground for green
Bay thirteen carries, sixty nine yards and a touchdown. Packers
are ready to go to eleven and four on the season.
By the way, the Packers game at Minnesota this Sunday
was moved to four twenty five pm Eastern time on
Fox TV, so Sunday's Dallas at Philadelphia game was moved
back to one pm Eastern on Fox. Eagles quarterback Jalen
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Hurts is in concussion protocol. Texans wide receiver Tank Dell
has a torn ACL and a dislocated kneecap. He'll have
season ending surgery. Houston claimed wide receiver Deontay Johnson off
waivers from Baltimore. Stephan Diggs was already out for the
year for them with a torn aco, and Steelers wide
receiver George Pickens practice fully today after a hamstring injury.
University of Georgia quarterback Carson Beck will miss the playoff
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he had UCL surgery. Pitcher Walker Buehler agreed to terms
on a one year deal with the Red Sox. In
college hoops, number one, Tennessee had to come from behind
to beat Middle Tennessee eighty two sixty four, and in
the NBA Oklahoma City It's just one. It's eighth straight
one twenty three, one oh five over Washington. Shay Gilgis
Alexander with forty one points. Clippers have just won at
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Memphis won fourteen one ten. Back to you, thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
We're here Inthetirack dot com, Fox Sports Radio Studios. A
beautiful day to be with you. Happy holidays. If you're
on the highways and byways, be safe.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You'll get there.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Just keep it between the lines, keep your calm, keep
your composure. Don't become a parody of the parody that
was the Saturday at Live skit this week with Martin
Short about driver ray in parking lots and stuff. If
you're heading to the mall, just be calm. A spot
will eventually be you know what, Walk a little bit,
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park a little further away, and walk. I guarantee you
everybody else is a slacker and doesn't want to.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
In this day and age where malls are becoming a
thing of the past of some sort, it actually has
been great walking around some of the shopping centers. Not
that they're obviously haven't completely disappeared, but would be foolish
to say that they're thriving at this point. But it
is a neat time of year. Once you get your
car parked to be able to go inside and see
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the stores and the Christmas music and the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, see, I've got them. All that goes both ways.
You got a lot of activity, not all of it
good because they've been in the news for some Yeah,
more nefarious kind of plots and things going on, but
always seems to be difficult parking. People are showing up,
whether they're just going to the movies or hanging out
in the food court and whatever. It's so that kind
(32:00):
of thing, or maybe they're all at Barnes and Noble
hang out reading the Pokemon gard's. I don't know, all
sorts of chaos at Dan Byron Fox. Find me over
at Swollen Dome. Thanks for being part of the extended
family and ride with us as we're in the holiday season.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Kwanza coming up. Whatever you celebrate,
however you celebrate, let's all just celebrate the fact that
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we are here and the opportunity to either rage and engage,
laugh and inspire as we do here at Fox Sports Radio.
And one of the notes that Steve had in his
news update, I want to circle back to this. It's
something you and I had talked about in our show
prep of notes going back and forth of the concept
of quitting in the National Football League. Some more okay
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than others. We'll talk about that next year on Fox.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I celebrate each and every one of these days. You know,
Elvis saying why can't every day be like Christmas? With
the tagline being what a wonderful world this could be?
For the most part, people are a little more chill
and excitable and more childlike along the way, like me,
like I want to watching it twenty seven to nothing
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Burial on Monday Football. I still celebrate. It's one of
two hundred and seventy two of them. Welcome back into
the ti raq dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios Mike
Harman alongside Dan Byer watching this thing, Brian to an end.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Thank goodness, this thing is.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I have a theory on why I think like the
Christmas holiday this year is better than other.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Years, better than other years.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Dude, do you feel more festive at all? I mean
outside outside of maybe you know, like some personal drama.
I don't know if Big A or Ryan bersching or
have any thoughts on this. But my whole deal is
this Thanksgiving was the twenty eighth, So if if Thanksgiving
was earlier, like the twenty fourth of the twenty third,
you have like five extra days at Christmas. This is
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like ben Boom Boom Thanksgiving Christmas compressed. Yes, like this
is the it's the shortest span that you get from
Thanksgiving to Christmas. But I also think it doesn't tire
you out as much because it's such a short span
between those two holidays.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I hadn't just thought about it that way.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
That's goods the theory of mine.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
That was what you did when you were awake on
the plane getting bumped.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
My wife's birthday is the twenty seventh of November, so
there's always this Thanksgiving shuffle and moving.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Around and so.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
But it came before Thanksgiving, which is weird because it's
usually after Thanksgiving. Next year it'll be on Thanksgiving. But
so that's always kind of messed with my schedule. And
so then this year when I saw it like it's
before and then you start to do the days, geez,
Christmas is was less than a month away. That's why
I think people are they're not worn out from it
yet because it hasn't been that long since Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I just think there was a little more buy in
this year.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I don't know, it's another stuck was up no, no,
but also just from an idea of maybe because of
the compressed schedule, but I think the end of year,
like with my kids, there seem to be a little
more And maybe it's because they're busier right between school
and work and soccer and whatever else. Maybe the holiday
and maybe Christmas became, all right, the focal point as
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opposed to all right, it's just winter break, so it
seemed like it became a bigger thing that way.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I mean, home Depot still had stuff up in September
for Christmas, so it's not like they were crunched at all.
But I think for everybody else could could have been
a little breath of fresh air.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
No, it's a beautiful thing, all right, and who doesn't
love the smell of some fresh pine, right, even if
it's artificial, It all works just the same as we
roll through. But we appreciate you being with us. You
want to send us shots of any of your festivities.
We're currently seeing a bunch of folks in at Lambeau
dressed like Buddy the Elf. In a very large contingent
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of them, there's a grinch. It's that time at the
game where we're seeing all the great out of everybody.
And then we had Jason Kelce that was out there
giving people slices of cheese before the game.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
So the Kelsey why not play into the stereotype?
Speaker 8 (36:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Oh, you know, you can't just miss what's coming consumed
now you do?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Is it good for tourism and for business?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Well, when we left Wisconsin yesterday with my wife said
do we need to get anybody cheese? So I guess
I as a native, I'm still part of the problem. Well,
but dad can't eat it really anymore. So now let's
let's not worry about it.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
But that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
If it's an expectation, you just you know, you feed
the beast at dan Byer on Fox. Find me over
at Swollendome. Now, Tale of Two Cities and how things operate.
Devadre Campbell remember very famously for the forty nine Ers,
wouldn't go into a game after his after the starter
green Law was injured and hit the sidelines and chaos ensued,
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you know, every talking head shaking their fists and trial
and anger as always, how could you do such things?
And I think rightfully so, I think that's that should
be should be the case in the midst of a
you're still battling for the playoffs, even if you're only
potentially percentages, and even if not, this is still the
fifty three men you've been grinding with. You were signed
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to a deal that was I think pretty the conversation
was gonna be pretty simple. Until this guy's ready, you're
our starter. And maybe he outperformed expectations. Maybe there were
some numbers he thought if he hit goes back into
free agency, he'd be able to attain another level of
contract and maybe get a two year next time instead
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of the one year deal, whatever the case is. We
watched with Devondre Campbell eventually suspended by the forty nine
ers and kind of put in limbo yep, because why
are you gonna let him go sign with a contender?
Suddenly he could be on the defense, either opposing you
or making an impact somewhere else Whereas we have Deontay Johnson,
who's now bouncing around the league like a pinball. Gets released.
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Baltimore wouldn't go into a game, wasn't showing up, excused
for personal reasons, and then eventually given his release. But
now desperation being what it is, Houston losing Tank Dell
to a gruesome injury, and one of those guys we've
talked about a lot on the Eyewatch Flex podcast and
lamented this year that he wasn't more of a factor
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in the Houston offense. He's done for the year. So
Deontay Johnson gets himself another opportunity. And I guess it
always comes back to positioned scarcity, opportunity, etc. But this
one kind of went without a blip, perhaps because of
the organization. Isn't under under fire like Baltimore. Hey, they
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just decided they were done with him, and it's harball
and it's whereas Shanahan. Right now, the wheels are off
a little bit and people are looking for things to attack.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I also, I think it's funny when you saw the
Devondre Campbell scenario in how people were yelling this style
will never play in the NFL again. His career is over.
What NFL team is going to want that? And Deontay
Johnson does basically the same thing in the Texans not
only sign him, but they claimed him off of waivers
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so nobody else would get him. They put in a
claim to grab him. And this, as he said on
the heels of the Tank Dell injury. If somebody is
short linebackers and it's down the stretch and you lose
two or three linebackers, guess what, Devondre Campbell's probably going
to get a call. So as much as we want
to sit on our high horse and think like this
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is good, the NFL doesn't want quitters. No, the NFL
just wants guys that they think can play and usually
put everything else aside. Mike Deontay Johnson and Devondre Campbell
are no different. But for everybody who said that Devondre
Campbell's career would be over because he quit, no, it's
because he probably wouldn't be better than anybody else. The
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Texans find value in Deontay Johns, so he's got a job.
It has nothing to do with whether you quit on
your team or not.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
No, that's it, right is Look the reclamation project. How
many quarterbacks go and find new life. We're talking about
a bunch of them. You're guy Gino Smith, he was
supposed to be out of the league. Sam Darnold, Ah,
he'll never be any good. Just go on down the line.
You get to the right fit, the right opportunity, someone
who believes in you. And guess what again, the need
for someone at the position and a way you go. Hey,
(40:26):
Coming up next, I want to ask the question of
all of you here in America what did the college
football playoff in the NFL MVP Award have in common?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Green Eggs and welcome in.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Another beautiful week begins here The Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Now Jason Smith tonight has big voice.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Bob had to tell you stanm Byer in his stead,
my tag team partner, longtime colleague here at Fox Sports Rade,
and of course the I Watch Your Flex podcast that
we dial up multiple times each and every week, making
you a little bit smarter, sometimes making ourselves look a
little less so. But Dan keeps me on even keel.
And we're almost through the end of the regular season.
(00:58):
We'll have an airing of the grievances late, Dan. But
you're fresh off a flight, fresh off the Midwest, the skies,
the highways, the byeways.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
How it all go fresh off the snow, the chill,
the ears still haven't popped, Mike, But this is fun.
I love when you and I get together, and as
you said, we get together on the I Want Your
Flex podcast. But there is always something just a little
different when I'm in for you. I don't know if
it feels dirty, if it feels like maybe like I
know that you're with Jason Smith, but I'm kind of
(01:26):
like cheating. So it's this secret sort of thing. But
I'm happy to be here for the next four hours.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well you know what is an open secret?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Four hundred affiliates nationwide, the IHEA radio app. I mean global, global,
I mean just putting it out in everybody's face. Twenty
one nothing your Monday night football score. Not really aesthetically
pleasing in any sense of the world word at this point.
Josh Jacobs with his sixty four yards and a touchdown
Jordan Love pedestrian one thirty six and one, but a
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yeoman like effort against an overmatched, undermanned, and frankly discombobulated, pathetic, underprepared.
What other word can I use to describe what the
Saints are put together?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I have no idea why the NFL would say this
is what the audience wants on Christmas Eve Eve It.
It doesn't make sense in a flex situation, and keeping
this game in like it didn't make sense at the
beginning of the season to think that in Week sixteen
the Saints would have anything to play for, whether Derek
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Carr was healthy or not healthy. I don't know why
the NFL would want to schedule a game like this. Well,
actually I do, because they want to make the Packers
seem great. They want the Thursday they or they want
the Monday night football lore and the cold weather, and
they want that look for their broadcast because everybody loves
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wintery mix and watching those games on TV. That's the
exact reason that they did it. They loved it when
it was snowing in Cleveland. They loved it when it
was snowing in Buffalo, Hey, late December, right before Christmas.
Let's go to Green Bay. Who should we put against them?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
The Saints.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You set it on the list in the studio. I
set it on the list in our studio. Worst team
in the NFL at the beginning of the season. They've overachieved, Dan.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
They have overachieved, and we thought that in Derek Carr
and they don't even have him tonight. Why this game
is being played on a Monday night, I have no
idea except for the NFL trying to push their conspiracy
and having some winter Wonderland fun for the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
In the end, it is a TV show, so we
get that. So if you get a little bit of
a weather element to it, that it gives folks something
extra to watch. In this case, it's fantasy playoff games
and whether they cover the robust fourteen or fourteen and
a half point number that was put up for the
Packers here obviously Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs, and maybe
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you decided to delve down into those wide receivers. I
wouldn't touch them with a ten football, even in a
plus matchup, because which guy's gonna get fed? You have
no idea. We talked about it a little in the podcast.
You were in route to your homeland, as Ian and
I sat down. It's like, you look at some of
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the numbers when you go to Jayden Reed, you really
love him, great, he's got fifty catches, right, not on
a week to week basis, trying to guess who's gonna
get fed outside of Jacob's has been a miserable construct
and even today, hey Musgrave's back that it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He is still Tucker Craft. Go go in and get
him involved a bunch.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But to your point about you know the Packers and
what they are, You've got history, so you always get
to give people a nice little history lesson of your
league when you go to lambeau Field. The pageantry, the
pomp and circumstance and everything. Yeah, the Saints, I mean
they're not only missing Car. There's no a Lave, there's
no Kamara. Carr was still having a really good season
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despite the chaos, inconsistency and just futured play around him.
But all that to say, yeah, and we're flexing everything
else we're putting in a mini It might as well
be the Emirates Cup Light with those four teams that
are playing Saturday and Wednesday, and yet this game stands alone.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
How we flexed out the Cowboys out of a game,
right right, right like, but nothing sacred.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Let's keep the Saints though. Let's make sure that the
Saints and Packers stays in the spot that it needs
to remember the days the Aints, Yeah they are the
Ain't nobody good playing tonight? That's who they are. They're
not the Aints. It's just ain't nobody good playing for
the Saints tonight. And that's the mess that we get
and should we expect twenty four to nothing? This is
just this is a three hour parade, like there's nothing.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
To worry about.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Guarantee people will be leaving in the fourth quarter because
now you've got Christmas plans. You don't want to be
stranded out at night. But there's no reason for this game.
I know that you can't a week out change a
Monday night game, but still to the point of what
we thought the same we're going to be at the
beginning of the year, Mike and now with an interimed coach,
and I know they went on a mini run, you know,
(06:07):
a few weeks back. Still not enough worthy enough to
keep this as a Monday night game, except for the
hope of snow and for the great vibes that you
get from playing a game at Lambeaufield in December.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean Rizzy doesn't match the the heat and
genesis of social media clicks like his guy the Rizzler.
I mean it's close because I've seen those side by
sides at points and he does get a little fiery
on the sideline, but I don't think it has the
same juice. But for the Packers, man, you're going to
be an eleven win team taking care of business. Yeoman
(06:41):
like defense as we talked about on the pod, but
bringing it to everybody here in this space. You know,
finally all the turnovers that we'd been projecting and waiting
for with this defense coming in Spain. I think it
was the twenty seventh tonight earlier on one of the
more inexplicable fumbles you'll see, where as like someone was
gonna about to get mugged. And I don't not make
(07:03):
light of people getting robbed. It is a very real thing,
but it's the Hey, here's my wallet. That's what Rattler
did with the football. As the defender went to take it,
he just kind of flipped it up into no man's last. Yeah,
just take it, keep me safe. He still got run
through into the end of the turf. Later was the
beneficiary of one of the worst roughing the passer calls
(07:24):
I've seen all season long, which is a whole other
referendum on refereeing that needs to happen as well as if.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You were going to have the you know, the everybody
does the Czar of Sports end of year. What would
I change?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, officiating really needs some something. I don't know how
and what, but yeah, it's it's gone into a really
bad space. Fortunately it's a blowout, so one or two
miss calls or bad clock work aren't gonna matter here.
But the Packers roll on in what has been a
nondescript game.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Maybe maybe this will come out of the airing of
grievances as well with the thoughts about officiating. But on
art I Want Your Flex podcast, a few weeks back,
maybe a month or two ago, we went down the
list of teams that we thought could win the Super Bowl.
And I'm not trying to rain or snow on Green
Bay's parade at all with the Monday night game and
(08:18):
saying that the NFL purposely put them here because Mike,
you could attest to it that I felt Green Bay
was a legit Super Bowl contender. And when I was
back home in Wisconsin this past week, I had aunts
and cousins in saying, how do you think the Packers
are gonna do? My opinion really means nothing, but I
do believe in this team as a legit possibility to
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win Super Bowl fifty nine when you look at how
the things in the NFC are shaking out. I just
don't think tonight tells us anything about them.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Oh no, we don't learn anything. This is a get in,
do your job, try to get out healthy. That's it.
Make sure so because as long as Josh Jacobs is
running as he is, and right now, Jordan Love is
on a streak, and I don't want to jinx it,
but it's four plus games without a pick. Like he's
taking care of the football sure, right, which is one
of the big, big caveats to a lot of players,
(09:11):
Like all right, there's great explosive plays and opportunities, and
he spreads the ball around a ton, as we've spoken of.
I mean, just go down what their stats were coming
into this week sixteen finale. Here is that you've got
a number of guys at twenty five thirty forty catches.
You don't have a guy that needs to be fed
one hundred and fifty times. And that's the greatness of
the team. Does that work forever? Maybe maybe not, but
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Watson at one point probably should have been hit for
a touchdown. Now, Love found another option that got him
a first. How often can you do that before someone
feels like they need to be fed, whether it's contract
incentives or just hey, trying to put stuff on tape
because I got to get paid too, and fractures there.
But for the moment, you're up twenty four to nothing
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and moving forward. But you look at the NFC as
a whole. I mean, Jalen her went out with a concussion.
What does that mean for a week? For two weeks
for their end of the season. You go down the list.
In Minnesota, you've got Sam Darnold, great story. Everybody keeps saying, yeah,
but like he's, you know, a thirty five year old
(10:18):
guy that's been weaving his way throughout the league. No,
he's still a young guy, came in young. Yes, he's
bounced a bit. That's more circumstance, I think than him necessarily.
But he's found the right spot. And you've got a
defense playing lights out football. You roll through the Lions.
Does the attrition eventually hit them?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
May not. Defense.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
They've lost so many guys that were starters, and David
Montgomery thinks he's gonna have the Festivus miracle and be
able to play issuing surgery. I don't know that whether
that happens or not, but you know you've got all
that to say that that's pretty much your your bubble, right.
I mean, the West, someone's heading in, but are they
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a contender or not. I don't know how much I
believe in the Rams or or the I don't get
in deeper.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I don't think the Rams can win the Super Bowl.
I do think the Rams are the team you don't
want to play.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Does that make sense? Sure?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I think that's simple enough where I don't think they're
gonna run through the NFC and end up in New Orleans.
But if I'm sitting there at Green Bay and I'm
the sixth seed, is the wild card because of the
greatness of Detroit and Minnesota so far this season, going
to LA and facing the Rams maybe isn't as ideal
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as another possibility, like being able to face of being
able to face the winner of the NFC South, whoever
that may be. Like, there's a distinct advantage for the
fifth seed wild card playing the fourth seed in the
NFC South, But I don't think that the I think
Green Bay could go to LA and handle the Rams.
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But I just don't think it's the fact of that
we think automatic victory when it comes to that scenario.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Can't wait to see how many folks got some extra
dollars or Christmas bonuses at their jobs in Wisconsin to
come back out to Los Angeles for an early January vacation.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Tell you what, Las Vegas and the warm weather, they're
ready to go. Let's get out of.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There, find their way, is no question about it. Dan
byer in for Jason Smith tonight. You see him are
and hear him with Doug Gottlieb mid Day's The Red
Zone Radio two to five Pacific time here on Sundays
at Danmire on Fox. Of course, he's always with me
on the iWatch Flex podcast find me over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh and Blue Sky, Blue Sky.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Dan already sent out the pre show tweet.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
If you call it a tweet, I don't know post.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Post x, I don't know what it is. Yeah, And
I met Mike Carmen over at Blue Sky as well.
So all of that to say, we've got a lot
on the show tonight. We'll dive into some of those fantasy,
good and bad stories out of Week sixteen, wrap up
what we saw as we head towards playoffs, and who
better to do it with than a guy that's gonna
join us next, Our buddy Jason Lockin for hits up
(13:06):
the show with us next here on.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Hey, welcome back in smooth jazzy holiday holiday Holiday version
Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Carman. No Jason Smith tonight,
Dan byer In instead as we wait for the clock
to tick tick tick tick down on the final minutes
of Week sixteen of the National Football League season. Nobody
better to recap you with Dan than our guy Jason
(13:42):
Locket for it, joins us on the hotline as he
does each and every week. Ought to see NFL Insider
one O five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post,
Long time NFL insider Mary Christmas, you and mister Locke
and forth, Thanks for taking a few minutes with us
this evening.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
How are you I'm doing well, hope you guys are
doing the same, and but this game isn't putting you
to sleep while you're on your shift. Here.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Now, I'm making sure that the heat got turned down
a little bit so we got a little bit of
air circulating, because otherwise it's suffocating me just a little
bit each and every play. Pretty nondescript, Yeoman like work
for the Packers, But hey, they're going to cover that
robust fourteen and a half point face it looks like this.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Looks like they will and hopefully this thing goes on
there as well as I thought it would. And they
covered the eight and a half in the first half,
So yeah, yeah, Now, just Jordan loves stuff throwing the
ball and it off forget him out of the game.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Josh Jacobs would be one of the guys that you
would want to hand off the ball to.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
But when you're up twenty four to nothing, why I
have him in the game.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
The question I have for you, Jason is this, does
this Packer team run the football? If they bring back
Aaron Jones and do what they did last year the
way that they've done it this year with Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
I mean, Joe's had a really nice season for the Vikings.
You know, would it be quite this effective? Probably not.
I mean I think their concern with Jones was just
the injuries were really mounting and he was having, you know,
trouble being available as much as they would like. It
turned out to a pretty durable season so far for Minnesota.
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I think I don't think Jordan Love was healthy in
the first half of the season, you know. I mean,
that was a weird injury in the Brazil game. He
came back faster than I think anybody kind of thought,
and he didn't look good for a few weeks.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
You know.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
After that, I really felt like you watch him throwing,
he was throwing off his back foot. It just he
did not look comfortable to me really, probably until around
week ten or so. You know. The interceptions I think
had a lot to do with with with maybe him
compensating for some some some injuries or maladies or whatever.
(15:58):
But we saw it. Team is capable of in the
playoffs last year, and I know that division is tough.
I know the NFC this year seems tougher than it's
been in a long time. But I wouldn't discount their chances.
It's still a really young team. They learned a lot
from their experience last year, but not one of these
teams that you know, can't play in different conditions or
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have to be home to win, so I I, you know,
I think it'd be really interesting to see how these
matchups come out and where they go.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
How deep is the fields? Do you think in terms
of a Super Bowl contender in the NFC? What do
you where do you cut it off?
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Mmm? I we don't think the winner of the NFC
South is going to represent them in the Super Bowl.
Outside of that, I, you know, and I don't know
about the Commando's doing it, you know, with a rookie quarterback,
I tend to think that won't happened. But everybody else,
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I mean, I could make a case for the Rams.
I mean that coach has done it, that quarterback's done it.
Like you know, they were pretty formidable playoff team last year.
Detroit's running out of players, but they're not running out
of moxie, they're not running out of points scored. And
they're alive as fuck as they're alive, and who knows,
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maybe Hodginson comes back at some point. Minnesota just keeps winning.
We just touched all in Green Bay here, and you know,
the Eagles, I don't know what Vic Fangio was doing
blitzing the hell out of Jayden Daniels. I mean, he
sat back, played coverage on that young man the first
game and Washington couldn't convert on third down. He tried
to throw the house at him in this one, and
it really came back to fight him. But the Eagles
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we talked about for ten weeks, didn't lose, and they
you know, they beat the snot out of Baltimore physically,
they beat the snot out of Pittsburgh physically. That's not
stuff that happens all the time. So that's that's a
damn good football team. So yeah, I mean, could any
of those teams be the last one standing in that conference?
I think?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So what is it with dan Quinn and what he's
done with the Commanders? And I don't know, maybe I'm
giving him too much credit for what he has done,
considering the close games that they've won and how they've
won some.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Of those games.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But do you go back to the coaching cycle, they
were the last team to make a higher. The higher
was uninspiring because it wasn't a hot young coordinator and
it was felt like it was like, all right, we're
gonna settle for dan Quinn and it's worked out so far.
What has he done to make this team a playoff contender?
Speaker 8 (18:36):
They drafted the right quarterback?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, I mean, well that's probably You're probably right, Honestly,
I mean.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
If this kid's not this kind of generational talent, who's
one games with his arm, one games with his moxie,
one games with his legs, I mean, it's not a
superior offensive line. The defense has looked pretty damn pedestrian
at times. It's certainly he's instilled a degree of competency
in them defensively, and I think that's a team that
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had a lot of individual talent for years but didn't
show up. But why was that not one of the
best d lines in football? Why could people run on
them inside? And why could people run on them outside?
So I think he certainly instilled certain standards and certain beliefs,
but I mean, not particularly great at anything other than
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this quarterback making unbelievable plays in the fourth quarter of
games that you know, really or not even just in
the fourth quarter, but most recently in the fourth quarter
of games, and just having this sort of collective belief.
And I'll give him credit for that, but it's Jade
daniels Man. I mean, I think that is that's the
number one.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Thing, Jason.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
We've got this four team in season tournament going on
Saturday Wednesday games, almost like the NBA's Emirates Cup. Does
anybody get an extra half million dollar bonus if they
win the point differential or whatever? I mean, I got
to imagine there's a lot of grouse in there in Baltimore,
even even with the win and everything else, of having
to turn right around.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
It's tough stretch. I mean, they're trying not to whine
about it publicly, and you know, they don't want the
players fixated on it. And look, if they managed to
win all three of these games, then you're talking about
they had the latest by possible, right, which you don't love.
But if you come out of it, play three times
in eleven games, win all three or in position to
potentially beat the Browns to win the division, and you
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get ten days off before you face the Browns, you know,
so you kind of get get a buy and then
another mini buy that would you know? I think that
wouldn't be the worst scenario in the world. Now, this
game is Houston will be tricky on Wednesday. I do
think they'll win that game, though, and Texas do a
lot of things well, but my god, they've given up
twenty eight pass and touchdowns and I got a feeling
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Lamar's got a hat trick in him. He might have
five in them. I don't buy Houston's offense. I don't
buy Bobby Slowick' I don't buy their ability to compensate
for a terrible offensive line. I think they've scored the
fewest or the third fewest, second or third fewest offensive
touchdowns in the second half of games all year. They
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don't really make adjustments, they don't make corrections. I don't
think they're going to be able to run their offense
through Joe Mixon and keep pace with the Ravens short
week or not. And yeah, if Baltimore does take care
of business there, then you know they get another sort
of buy two weeks or three, basically two weeks after
having a buy. So it could be worse, it could
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be worse, and them beating the Steelers was obviously huge.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
The crazy thing about this is when you're looking at
the schedule and I don't know what the NFL can do,
and next year, Christmas is on a Thursday, so you
don't have to worry about this wacky schedule maybe for
five years or so, and however they want to do it.
But is there a happy medium to do to like
play these market games, because my problem with it is
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you have four a FC teams that are in the
absolute think of it with these games almost meaning too
much on a on a short schedule, like I know,
you can't throw a dog like you've got tonight on
Christmas Day having Saints and Packers play. But is there
any any way to sort of resolve this because your
point is, yeah, Ravers, you know, Ravens beat the Steelers,
but that's a you know, that's a tough road to hoe.
(22:22):
And you've got these all of these a FC playoff
competitors playing in this unique window.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I don't know if there's a happy meeting when it
comes to extreme gluttony and Greek I just think we're raping.
I play more games for playing a game in India
or playing or wherever they're going to play in an
(22:51):
international game, reopen the CBA and once they had a
week to the regular season, uh by on top of that,
which makes even more international games.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
The take.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
Through the end of February and almost in the March,
and it's it's I just think it's it's just that
that they're going to do whatever they can to have
as many cash crabs as possible. Like it's it's that's
just who they are, it's what they believe in. It's
it's what the billionaires are the league and Goodell is
(23:29):
just a useful foil for them, and this is what
they want and this is where it's going. So this
is this is what this is what they'll get and
this is what we'll watch. And I mean it's there's
there's no detendlums not swinging back.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well, no, I mean especially that, I mean the players,
as much as it may be a difficult conversation to
have initially, you show the bank accounts of what they
get off of each extra dollar earned, I think everybody
sleeps a little better at night. One of the results
that had everybody up in arms was the fact that
Las Vegas came out and beat the Jacksonville Jaguars, a
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game that maybe fifteen people watched unless they had some
fantasy interests there, mister locking Forth, but we're talking about
the end of the regular season and draft jockeying and
you know, position jockeying, I guess and all of that
fun stuff. It's, you know, just that curiosity when they
start making the jerseys a couple of weeks early and
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then the team goes out and wins a game. Mark
Mark Davis couldn't have been happy.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
No, no, and you know things are kind of falling
the Giants way. But there's been other times in the
past where they've been their own worst enemy, or situations
have conspired against them, and they haven't picked quite as
high as I think a lot of Giants fans would
have hoped. I mean, look, it's it's tricky, it's tricky, wicked,
(24:57):
Like I don't think Mark Davis goes to Antonio Pearson says, hey,
I need you to lose this one, right, and if
you do, it's going to make me more inclined to
keep you around, because I just don't think it works
that way. And if they get the first overall Dick
or where they're taking a quarterback first or second overall, like,
are we going to just blow up the offensive staff
(25:18):
again or you know, because I don't think they're giving
them the North Turner who came in on an interim basis,
like are you giving it to like you're going to
keep Pierson? Say, hi are another coordinator? Like I tend
to think that thing is going in a certain direction anyway,
So what are you going to tell the guy to do, like,
you know, coach backwards and try to lose. It's just
it is, It is what it is. You know, Look,
(25:43):
they're they're going to have to draft a quarterback. They've
had a hell of a time developing a quarterback. They haven't,
I mean, they have they really done it, Like I
mean even Car, Like do we really count Car? I
mean I guess like maybe it's like they had a
whole lot of playoff glory with Car, but he's still
in the league, So I guess they've on a quarterback there.
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But they've had a hell of time doing it. So
I don't know that it's going to work out, But
it just sort of is what it is. It looks like,
you know, they and the Giants I think will take
quarterbacks whether they're picking one and three and two or
two and three or one and two, and outside of that,
I think it'll be sort of a normal draft. It's
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not going to be like the last few for certain where.
You know, all that quarterback jockeying really kind of trumped
everything else. It's just not shaping up that way.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Do you think the NFL would have a preference on
who gets number one? I mean, you know, we talk
in these terms. I know, though maybe it's not how
it's done in real world. But Giants versus Raiders. Do
you think there'd be a preference for what would be
more buzzworthy?
Speaker 8 (26:50):
Well, I think they'd like I mean, both those are
historic franchises. They're both, you know, the Giants, like the
Giants and the Jets. I think, since twenty seventeen, have
the two worst records in the NFL. Like the league
having both those teams being complete, you know, jackass failures.
I don't think they love that. I don't think it's great.
(27:12):
So could one of them turn it around with a
young quarterback? I think they'd really like to see that happen.
I don't think they like the fact that, you know,
airspace ten minutes from league headquarters keep flying planes over
there talking about how backwards an owner is, even if
he absolutely is. And Vegas has got the Sparkling Stadium
and you know, it's an iconic franchise, but it's the
(27:34):
other team's fans who are there feeling it, so you know,
I think they'd like to see both those teams turning around.
It's gonna be tough for the Raiders though. I mean,
let's be real about that division. He got three head
coaches who are all really, really legitimate, and they all
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have quarterbacks. I think both Knicks is going to be
solid enough. It's gonna be tough, Flating, man, You're going
to have to have a quarterback and a head coach
who know what they're doing if you're going to compete
in the AFC West. You know, over the next three,
four or five years or ever long. Andy Readon wants
to keep doing it. So yeah, good luck.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Simply simply put, good luck with that. Jason Locking for
our guest ought to see NFL Insider one O five
seven the Fan in Baltimore, Washington Post. Jason, always appreciate
you stopping by. Look forward to getting back with you
as we creep into twenty twenty five. Merry Christmas to
you and your family and enjoy the game on Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
Thank you guys as always, Happy Holidays and I hope
you guys are a great week.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Thank you great Jason. Take care at Jason locking for
where you find him on Twitter. Find Dan at Dan
Byron Fox, find me over at Swollen Dome. So I'm
gonna turn our attention to a man unlike any other.
He's a legend, the man, the legend of the myth.
It's our guy, Steve de Seger.
Speaker 9 (28:55):
This Monday night football game is about as bad as
we all imagined.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No, it really lived up to the hype. Not a
lot of things do, steen, So we should be thankful
for that. I guess that's my back back door way
of saying.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
That, unless you're a Packer fan, of course. Green Bay
leads twenty four to nothing over the New Orleans Saints
about eight and a half minutes to go in the
fourth quarter. Packers scored touchdowns on their first three drives,
led twenty one nothing at the half. Current stats total
yardage New Orleans about one fifty five, Green Bay with
three fifty five. Spencer Ratler, tonight's starting quarterback for the Saints,
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with two turnovers. Josh Jacobs on the ground for green
Bay thirteen carries, sixty nine yards and a touchdown. Packers
are ready to go to eleven and four on the season.
By the way, the Packers game at Minnesota this Sunday
was moved to four twenty five pm Eastern time on
Fox TV, so Sunday's Dallas at Philadelphia game was moved
back to one pm Eastern on Fox. Eagles quarterback Jalen
(29:50):
Hurts is in concussion protocol. Texans wide receiver Tank Dell
has a torn ACL and a dislocated kneecap. He'll have
season ending surgery. Houston claimed wide receiver Deontay Johnson off
waivers from Baltimore. Stephan Diggs was already out for the
year for them with a torn aco, and Steelers wide
receiver George Pickens practice fully today after a hamstring injury.
University of Georgia quarterback Carson Beck will miss the playoff
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he had UCL surgery. Pitcher Walker Buehler agreed to terms
on a one year deal with the Red Sox. In
college hoops, number one, Tennessee had to come from behind
to beat Middle Tennessee eighty two sixty four, and in
the NBA Oklahoma City It's just one. It's eighth straight
one twenty three, one oh five over Washington. Shay Gilgis
Alexander with forty one points. Clippers have just won at
(30:35):
Memphis won fourteen one ten. Back to you, thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
We're here Inthetirack dot com, Fox Sports Radio Studios. A
beautiful day to be with you. Happy holidays. If you're
on the highways and byways, be safe.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You'll get there.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Just keep it between the lines, keep your calm, keep
your composure. Don't become a parody of the parody that
was the Saturday at Live skit this week with Martin
Short about driver ray in parking lots and stuff. If
you're heading to the mall, just be calm. A spot
will eventually be you know what, Walk a little bit,
(31:08):
park a little further away, and walk. I guarantee you
everybody else is a slacker and doesn't want to.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
In this day and age where malls are becoming a
thing of the past of some sort, it actually has
been great walking around some of the shopping centers. Not
that they're obviously haven't completely disappeared, but would be foolish
to say that they're thriving at this point. But it
is a neat time of year. Once you get your
car parked to be able to go inside and see
(31:35):
the stores and the Christmas music and the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, see, I've got them. All that goes both ways.
You got a lot of activity, not all of it
good because they've been in the news for some Yeah,
more nefarious kind of plots and things going on, but
always seems to be difficult parking. People are showing up,
whether they're just going to the movies or hanging out
in the food court and whatever. It's so that kind
(32:00):
of thing, or maybe they're all at Barnes and Noble
hang out reading the Pokemon gard's. I don't know, all
sorts of chaos at Dan Byron Fox. Find me over
at Swollen Dome. Thanks for being part of the extended
family and ride with us as we're in the holiday season.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Kwanza coming up. Whatever you celebrate,
however you celebrate, let's all just celebrate the fact that
(32:20):
we are here and the opportunity to either rage and engage,
laugh and inspire as we do here at Fox Sports Radio.
And one of the notes that Steve had in his
news update, I want to circle back to this. It's
something you and I had talked about in our show
prep of notes going back and forth of the concept
of quitting in the National Football League. Some more okay
(32:42):
than others. We'll talk about that next year on Fox.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I celebrate each and every one of these days. You know,
Elvis saying why can't every day be like Christmas? With
the tagline being what a wonderful world this could be?
For the most part, people are a little more chill
and excitable and more childlike along the way, like me,
like I want to watching it twenty seven to nothing
(33:13):
Burial on Monday Football. I still celebrate. It's one of
two hundred and seventy two of them. Welcome back into
the ti raq dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios Mike
Harman alongside Dan Byer watching this thing, Brian to an end.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Thank goodness, this thing is.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I have a theory on why I think like the
Christmas holiday this year is better than other.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Years, better than other years.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Dude, do you feel more festive at all? I mean
outside outside of maybe you know, like some personal drama.
I don't know if Big A or Ryan bersching or
have any thoughts on this. But my whole deal is
this Thanksgiving was the twenty eighth, So if if Thanksgiving
was earlier, like the twenty fourth of the twenty third,
you have like five extra days at Christmas. This is
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like ben Boom Boom Thanksgiving Christmas compressed. Yes, like this
is the it's the shortest span that you get from
Thanksgiving to Christmas. But I also think it doesn't tire
you out as much because it's such a short span
between those two holidays.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I hadn't just thought about it that way.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
That's goods the theory of mine.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
That was what you did when you were awake on
the plane getting bumped.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
My wife's birthday is the twenty seventh of November, so
there's always this Thanksgiving shuffle and moving.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Around and so.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
But it came before Thanksgiving, which is weird because it's
usually after Thanksgiving. Next year it'll be on Thanksgiving. But
so that's always kind of messed with my schedule. And
so then this year when I saw it like it's
before and then you start to do the days, geez,
Christmas is was less than a month away. That's why
I think people are they're not worn out from it
yet because it hasn't been that long since Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I just think there was a little more buy in
this year.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I don't know, it's another stuck was up no, no,
but also just from an idea of maybe because of
the compressed schedule, but I think the end of year,
like with my kids, there seem to be a little
more And maybe it's because they're busier right between school
and work and soccer and whatever else. Maybe the holiday
and maybe Christmas became, all right, the focal point as
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opposed to all right, it's just winter break, so it
seemed like it became a bigger thing that way.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I mean, home Depot still had stuff up in September
for Christmas, so it's not like they were crunched at all.
But I think for everybody else could could have been
a little breath of fresh air.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
No, it's a beautiful thing, all right, and who doesn't
love the smell of some fresh pine, right, even if
it's artificial, It all works just the same as we
roll through. But we appreciate you being with us. You
want to send us shots of any of your festivities.
We're currently seeing a bunch of folks in at Lambeau
dressed like Buddy the Elf. In a very large contingent
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of them, there's a grinch. It's that time at the
game where we're seeing all the great out of everybody.
And then we had Jason Kelce that was out there
giving people slices of cheese before the game.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
So the Kelsey why not play into the stereotype?
Speaker 8 (36:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Oh, you know, you can't just miss what's coming consumed
now you do?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Is it good for tourism and for business?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Well, when we left Wisconsin yesterday with my wife said
do we need to get anybody cheese? So I guess
I as a native, I'm still part of the problem. Well,
but dad can't eat it really anymore. So now let's
let's not worry about it.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
But that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
If it's an expectation, you just you know, you feed
the beast at dan Byer on Fox. Find me over
at Swollendome. Now, Tale of Two Cities and how things operate.
Devadre Campbell remember very famously for the forty nine Ers,
wouldn't go into a game after his after the starter
green Law was injured and hit the sidelines and chaos ensued,
(36:56):
you know, every talking head shaking their fists and trial
and anger as always, how could you do such things?
And I think rightfully so, I think that's that should
be should be the case in the midst of a
you're still battling for the playoffs, even if you're only
potentially percentages, and even if not, this is still the
fifty three men you've been grinding with. You were signed
(37:19):
to a deal that was I think pretty the conversation
was gonna be pretty simple. Until this guy's ready, you're
our starter. And maybe he outperformed expectations. Maybe there were
some numbers he thought if he hit goes back into
free agency, he'd be able to attain another level of
contract and maybe get a two year next time instead
(37:41):
of the one year deal, whatever the case is. We
watched with Devondre Campbell eventually suspended by the forty nine
ers and kind of put in limbo yep, because why
are you gonna let him go sign with a contender?
Suddenly he could be on the defense, either opposing you
or making an impact somewhere else Whereas we have Deontay Johnson,
who's now bouncing around the league like a pinball. Gets released.
(38:05):
Baltimore wouldn't go into a game, wasn't showing up, excused
for personal reasons, and then eventually given his release. But
now desperation being what it is, Houston losing Tank Dell
to a gruesome injury, and one of those guys we've
talked about a lot on the Eyewatch Flex podcast and
lamented this year that he wasn't more of a factor
(38:26):
in the Houston offense. He's done for the year. So
Deontay Johnson gets himself another opportunity. And I guess it
always comes back to positioned scarcity, opportunity, etc. But this
one kind of went without a blip, perhaps because of
the organization. Isn't under under fire like Baltimore. Hey, they
(38:46):
just decided they were done with him, and it's harball
and it's whereas Shanahan. Right now, the wheels are off
a little bit and people are looking for things to attack.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I also, I think it's funny when you saw the
Devondre Campbell scenario in how people were yelling this style
will never play in the NFL again. His career is over.
What NFL team is going to want that? And Deontay
Johnson does basically the same thing in the Texans not
only sign him, but they claimed him off of waivers
(39:16):
so nobody else would get him. They put in a
claim to grab him. And this, as he said on
the heels of the Tank Dell injury. If somebody is
short linebackers and it's down the stretch and you lose
two or three linebackers, guess what, Devondre Campbell's probably going
to get a call. So as much as we want
to sit on our high horse and think like this
(39:37):
is good, the NFL doesn't want quitters. No, the NFL
just wants guys that they think can play and usually
put everything else aside. Mike Deontay Johnson and Devondre Campbell
are no different. But for everybody who said that Devondre
Campbell's career would be over because he quit, no, it's
because he probably wouldn't be better than anybody else. The
(39:58):
Texans find value in Deontay Johns, so he's got a job.
It has nothing to do with whether you quit on
your team or not.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
No, that's it, right is Look the reclamation project. How
many quarterbacks go and find new life. We're talking about
a bunch of them. You're guy Gino Smith, he was
supposed to be out of the league. Sam Darnold, Ah,
he'll never be any good. Just go on down the line.
You get to the right fit, the right opportunity, someone
who believes in you. And guess what again, the need
for someone at the position and a way you go. Hey,
(40:26):
Coming up next, I want to ask the question of
all of you here in America what did the college
football playoff in the NFL MVP Award have in common?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
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