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you think. Again, just search Jason Smith Show on YouTube
and subscribe. So you know what they say in the
world of sports? This is a record that will never
be broken. Sure. Right? Never be broken. Like Cy Young's
512 career wins. That's never going to be broken. Never
be broken. Johnny Vandermeer, back-to-back no-hitters. No one's going to
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pitch back-to-back-to-back. no hitters. That will never be broken. You're
never going to get to go through a complete game. No.
Come on. I mean, three complete games in a row.
I don't know that you'll ever see that again. I really,
when's the last time someone's pitched three complete games in
a row? It has been a long time. Just give
me back to back. Probably. When's back to back complete
games in a row? I mean, really, it's never going
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to happen. We go back to what? No one, Ryan,
35 years ago, maybe. So in that vein, understand that
last night, the biggest sports story in the world was
the angels today. The biggest sports story in the world
is the Clippers. There's no way three days in a row.
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It's that we're ever going to get angels Clippers. And
one of those teams, again, being the top story in sports,
like the ducks, aren't going to be the top story
in sports tomorrow. That would be something not going to happen.
What the hell would have to happen for that? This is,
I mean, it's, it's, it's Haley's comment, man.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It is.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Hey, it's a, The Mets won in 86. We saw
Haley's Comet in 86. Okay, we're not seeing that for
76 more years. We are never seeing two nights in
a row. And again, last night were the top two stories. Yeah, exactly.
Because it was Clipper tangential. But that was kind of...
That was okay, because that was Ralph Lawler, and he's
getting loose on Twitter. But this was... But this is
like the two biggest stories, two days in a row,
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are the Clippers and the Angels. That's never going to
be broken. We'll never see this tied again, let alone
be broken. It's strange, right? Because we're in... That time
of year where normally we start shifting towards, all right,
who are the Dodgers going to beat in the World Series?
And they're struggling.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Hitters, there's RBI droughts for Shohei Otani. They had to
shove back his potential starting pitching, return to the rotation,
all of these things. Yeah, they get Will Smith back.
I mean, there's some good news. But overall, like, those
struggles would be the back page, the front page, and
everything in between, except for crime rates here in Los Angeles.
And right now it's, nope, let's talk all about the Clippers. And, yeah,
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it's absolute chaos. Today, the bombshell drops. Apparently there was evidence.
I mean, we were led to believe last week that
the NBA had no evidence, right? The ESPN insiders and
the investigative reporters, NBA has got no evidence on the
Clippers and Kawhi Leonard. And did they circumvent the salary
cap by giving a fake job planting trees? NBA has
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got no evidence today. Oh no, there was evidence. Oh yeah.
The NBA has punished the Clippers after their Kawhi Leonard investigation. Again,
Rumors for a while that they circumvented the salary cap
by giving Kawhi Leonard extra money for a fake job,
fake endorsement, planting trees. This was a very big topic
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over a long period of time. We didn't know, would
the Kawhi Leonard trade to the Raptors go through? Because
we're waiting for the NBA to come up with some
sort of ruling on this. And the ruling came in today,
and wow! A year-long investigation... The Clippers will get a
$ 30 million fine. $ 30 million fine. Remember back when Spygate
happened and Goodell said, ah, a million dollar fine, that's
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the most I can give to the Patriots. Oh, wow,
big deal. Different rules of engagement. $ 30 million fine. A
year suspension for owner Steve Ballmer. You're not going to
see him waving at games and going crazy on the wall. Developers, developers, developers. No, plus...
a suspension for the team president, one year, and the
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president of basketball operations, Lawrence Frank, six months without pay. Also,
the Clippers are forfeiting not one, not two, not three,
not four, but five first-round picks, 2029, 2030, 2031, 2032,
and 2033. This is the penalty for.
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Kawhi Gate. Pablo Torre apparently found out. Remember, you know, hey, listen,
the only hardware the Clippers are going to wind up
winning is Pablo Torre's award. So thank you, Isaac Lohencroft.
The Pulitzer. That's the only hardware. How about that? Like,
Ballmer and Kawhi get to hold the Pulitzer up.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, we won this.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
This is our shiny hardware. It's not the Larry O'Brien trophy,
but we won that. Ilo gave me that before he
came in. That's pretty good. This is the penalty tonight.
It is severe. It is shocking. And I admit... not
a lot really, really surprises me from a take-my-breath-away standpoint.
There's certain things in sports all the time that are unpredictable, that, wow,
they're a surprise. But overall, something makes me sit back
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and go, whoa. Because that was my reaction when I
got up today and I saw this decision come in.
I said, whoa, this is really excessive. Like, I know
the Clippers had to get punished, but wow, this is
really excessive for... Something that happened that needed a penalty,
but you're ruining or you're potentially ruining the future of
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this team without five first round picks. Okay, you can
win without picks, but... Are free agents going to sign
there now? Because, well, what kind of future do we have?
The owner's not here for a year. This is a
decision that can absolutely ruin a franchise. And was the
Kawhi Leonard thing something? Was that a franchise-ruinable decision? No, hey,
we found a way for Kawhi to take less money. Okay.
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Like other teams, they would like to do that. I
don't know that the punishment fit the crime in this.
If this was... Ballmer's going to get six months, right?
They're going to fine him $ 10 million. They lose a
draft pick or two. That's pretty good. That's pretty substantial. Wow,
he's losing two first-round picks. Okay, man, we got to
do some creative stuff to get around to get first-round
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picks back to figure out our structure of our team
going forward. This is just like death penalty. This is
like SMU and the A's type stuff. This is like
pony express death penalty stuff that you are getting from
the Clippers. It is really, really excessive. Yeah, you go
over the $ 30 million and everybody fixates on that and says, well,
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you know, Ballmer won't feel that. Well, it's $ 30 million.
And I guess the corresponding argument, well, then he probably
could have missed that $ 30 to $ 60 million in this
fraud of a company without missing it either if someone
else signed off on it. So you got that. But
not being around the team, not being active, you talk
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about the levels. And now I want the rest of
the details, right, in terms of what's in all of
these reports. that they go through. And obviously we got
everything from Pablo Torre, but in terms of how the
NBA comes down with this decision, how much backlash did
they get from what looked like several weeks ago was
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going to be nothing, right? Still ongoing, but nothing to
see here, more or less. I mean, how much did
you get from other NBA franchises? How much was that
back and forth? Because remember they clapped back on the
ESPN reporting, right? uh a few weeks back uh i
was like no no hey hey it's not done it's
not done yet it's like so did you feel like
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you had to really come over the top afterwards and
the question i have for america and for you kawhi
leonard seven hundred thousand dollars yeah and the dismissal of
anything i mean his statement he might as well have
just put in blinking letters yeah uncle den has got
a lot of cool stuff what Well, this is how
it works in college football. The kid doesn't get penalty
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for getting the car and the money. I'm not saying
the Clippers don't end up getting hammered. Again, there's no
arbitration here. The Clippers, with a lack of institutional control,
that's going on right now. But that's what they ruled. Sure. Right.
So can they fight and maybe get one or two
of those draft picks back? We'll see. But Kawhi slides
out the back door, slides back across the bar. See
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you guys. See you. 700 grand. This isn't this isn't
fabric of the game stuff like these are penalties that
are reserved for. Out-and-out cheating. This is reserved for breaking
the rules of play on the field. Like, this is
Spygate-type stuff, where this is Michigan football. Hey, we have
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a legal sign. Like, this is the type of penalties
you get. This was, hey, we circumvented the salary cap.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
OK, like it deserves to be penalized. But wow, this
isn't this should be a this should be something a
little bit less like this. Like, I mean, I don't
know if they can recover the next decade. Yeah, I
understand the dollars and cents of it all. And part
of us, we get to look with the rearview mirror
of what the Kawhi Leonard, Paul George streetlights over spotlights
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era ended up becoming. Meanwhile, you got everybody bringing up
the old trade, right? And showing pictures of Shea Gildas Alexander.
holding trophies. But it's the hampering the team going on
for the next half a decade. We talked a lot
the last few nights talking about the propping up the
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opportunity on each coast of these major metropolises uh having
great run with stan cronky buying you know from arty
moreno and on all of these things and now you
have the clippers franchise and and yeah should there be
punishment does it need a five five first round draft
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picks uh punishment to it like i get it dollars
there's only so much you can do there And does
he get different treatment because he is worth so much money? Like,
that's the thing. Like, if this is another owner, and
obviously it's not. It's the Clippers for the second straight
owner that you've got, like, a lot of questions. Obviously,
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much different circumstances and everything. But it's still the, this
was a, you got the Intuit Dome. You've got this
new owner. world order of, in theory, prosperous times for
the Clippers, and now you're back into this difficult space of,
all right, you've now just cut the legs out from
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this organization. You still allow the trade to go through.
So he doesn't pay for it. But now Ballmer's away
for a year, and you've taken one of your franchises
in a major marketplace, and you've cut their viability entirely. Again,
it's so excessive for this. Seeing this shocking news, we're
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always about helping people as well. We are. No, that's
what we do. We're problem solvers. Someone who needs our
help right now. As soon as I heard this story,
I said, someone's going to need a wellness check. So
let's perform a wellness check right now here on the
biggest Clipper fan that I know, Monty Bolaños. Are you
okay after the news today knowing full well that you
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playing center for the Clippers next year might be an option?
Are you okay? You can't even speak? She's been rendered speechless.
You can't even speak? Wow, Monty can't even speak. She's
crying right now. I mean, head in her hands, absolutely
crying right now, like the end of a sad movie. Like,
absolutely crying. I can't believe this. Is this when the
violin starts playing and it says fiend? Yeah. And then
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the credits start to roll. Are you okay now? I
am okay.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I am okay.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You sure? I think you're in shock.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know, your wellness check came after a lot of
other people's wellness check. I'm just going to throw that
out there. Where was my text? of are you okay, Monsi?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Are you okay? No. I've done that with people before,
and then they get mad at me. It's like, well,
you think that's going to do it?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, those people sound like they're not fun at parties.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
After Ralph Lawler decided to get extemporaneous on Twitter last night,
I called you to make sure you were okay. You
did check on me. I was the first wellness check.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You did check on me with Ralph Lawler.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I was the first one. You did. You forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, you know, Ralph Lawler was one thing. This is
another thing.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I mean, that was fun. That was fun. I gave
you an anticipatory wellness check, but now it doesn't matter.
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, no, now forget it. No, no, no, whatever. Cover mic.
That's it. No, no.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, no, this really, really sucks for a lot of reasons.
It's frustrating because I agree with you that the punishment
seems really, really harsh.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like, it's like, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But obviously— Something was done that they didn't have to do,
and what frustrates me about this is when you hear
the story and you hear Uncle Dennis, a guy who
has such a bad reputation within the league of already
doing bad business or attempting to do bad business, it
frustrates me that Steve Ballmer and the Clippers... would fall
for this it's like aren't you the con man aren't
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you the billionaire you got conned aren't you the con.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Man well but that's the thing he keeps telling everybody
he was duped.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Then i then again you let people dupe you as
a billionaire i can't with that so that frustrates me
this is embarrassing clipper's gonna clip you know like that's
just that that i mean that's just what i should
say clipper's gonna clip because nothing has been truer Death, taxes,
and Clipper's going to clip.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But I do have good news for you, though.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
What is the good news?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's going to cost you like 15 bucks to sit
behind the bench.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
At a game next year.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You know what's so funny? I literally said that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I literally said that.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I spent the day at Dodger Stadium today because we
had a busy day with tours.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And I got a lot of texts and I got
a lot of people coming up.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
To me and I'm like, well, at least I'm able
to go to like a game and sit in the
100 level for 12 bucks.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like that's going to be nice.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
This seems a very harsh punishment, especially like for the fans.
Like it seems like it hits the fans the most.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think just rooting for the Clippers hits the fans
the most. But the worst of it is they did
all this and they won nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And that's like, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
At least if you had a title, you could be like,
all right.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Something. Just something.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Like, it was, it just seems, it's like really on
the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And not to say, but it's like, the Clippers, like,
this is where you put the hammer down, okay? Like,
I can't be mad that the punishment is so severe.
Because obviously they were stupid and did something. Take a
picture of you planting one tree. One picture of.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You planting a tree. It also could have been our fault.
Because all we've done is mock them. the commissioners office
for so many years. This is going to, maybe it
just finally is like, all right, I'm going to do this.
I go bigger than that. This is going to set
any kind of save the planet initiative back. Cause now
planting trees is bad, right? Like now you have the
planning tree. That's bad. That's bad.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Planting trees is still good. Just make sure it's not
circumventing salary cap. But yeah, I mean, that kind of
negative connotation, planting trees, but no plant more trees. You
need more trees. Yeah. I hope you're okay, Monsey.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You know, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
The clipper's going to clip.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
No, it's all right. He'll buy you a coffee drink
to make you feel better. Oh, that's a good idea. Tysha,
do you want to toast some verse tonight? You know what, Jay?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
In honor of Kawhi getting off of this so easy,
let's toast to him. Let's do it. Let's do it.
And make sure Monsey's is filled with extra tears.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, okay. Very good. All right.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I got no tears left to cry in the words
of Rihanna.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Cold foam on mine. Extra tears for Monty. That's a
lead analysis from Alex. How is Kawhi not suspended at all?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Dude, I don't, that's like, I just, all of this
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He literally got to skip across the border. I know.
Skip across the border. He's like Aaron Paul at the
end of Breaking Bad. But it's under 2% of what
he allegedly got extra that he gets by. And that
Pacers pick, the Pacers pick, now it's nobody's pick.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I was told that I could be a fan for
five years of another team. That's what I was allowed
to do by somebody. At the Dodgers, they were like,
you could be a fan for five years of someone else.
Ephraim Salam texted me and he told me, come join
our side. He meant the Lakers side.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I said, absolutely not. Never. Yeah, you can't do that. Never.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Lob City all day, baby.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, there you go. Okay, Lob City all day. No,
it's okay. You have a Brunson t-shirt, don't you? I
can do a Brunson t-shirt. There's plenty of room. Plenty
of room for Brunson. Very good. All right. See, we
started with tears. Now we're ending with tears. Pacers?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No. No.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Give me back Avicii Zubats. Like Back to the Future 4?
Not happening. Not happening with the Pacers. I'm just saying.
It just can't be the Lakers. And why join up
forces with you? You're evil. Okay, no coffee for you.
How about that? Very nice. No coffee for you. You
could have a Bulls coffee, which means you think it's
going to be good, but it's really going to be bad.
I get one year, and it's going to be an
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MVP year, and then that's it. Worry about the other Caleb, okay?
Caleb Wilson, no. Caleb Williams, that's your Caleb to worry about.
We got one Caleb per city to worry about. I
got two that I have to worry about this year.
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Fox Sports Radio. There you go. From the Billy the
Kid soundtrack, it's Jason Smith. Jason Smith. My best friend,
Mike Harmon. Who's Bob Dolan? You came back over the top. Hi,
I'm Bob Dolan. Come on down to Dolan Chevrolet. Make
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as you came back over the top. We're getting rid
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of the 26s and getting ready for 27. I'm Bob Dolan. Now,
when they go in legally, and this is the question
I have to ask. When they go in legally, they
could say, what did this really get us? Yeah, no,
it got you nowhere. You got one appearance in the
conference finals, and that was it. Because really, think about
the Kawhi Leonard era with the Clippers. After the penalties today, again,
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the biggest story in sports today, Steve Ballmer gets a
year-long suspension, Lawrence Frank gets a six-month suspension, and the
Clippers lose five first-round draft picks, all for their part
in TreeGate as Kawhi Leonard was signed and circumvented the
salary cap to give more money out to other players.
This Kawhi Leonard era, I mean, you have to think
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and say, There may not be a worse era revolving
around a star player maybe I've ever seen in the NBA.
Because not only did you not win, you kept giving
Kawhi Leonard money. You didn't win, which is bad enough.
But not only that, he leaves without any penalty, and
you may be dead for the next 10 years. Well,
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and as we mentioned in the open... You also had
the trade that he forced to bring Paul George in
for your streetlights over spotlights campaign to go up against
the Lakers, which cost you several draft picks and Shea
Gildress Alexander. Now, did you think he'd become the player
he did?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, but.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
History is what it is. Hindsight's 20-20. And he's a
guy that's in position as one of the favorites for
this new season to perhaps win more hardware. I mean, really,
outside of Pablo Torres Pulitzer, that's the only hardware being won. Well, no,
that's the Clippers hardware. The rest of the league still operates.
Are they all going to hold it up like Brunson
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and Cat, you know, holding up the Larry O'Brien together,
the confetti coming down? They're all going to hold it up?
Are they going to have that at the team practice
facilities that you can go take a picture with it?
Like they do the road show with the World Series
trophy or whatever. Hey, come take a post with a
picture for a picture with the Pulitzer Prize. I mean,
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what is it in that? Was it just a plaque?
I don't think it's a trophy. I think it's probably
a plaque. For writers, it's like, hey, it's a plaque.
We don't hold up trophies. We're writers. Here's a plaque.
It looks like a tablet. It's a plaque. That's what
it is. It looks like a tablet. Here is your
Kindle Award for Achievement and Excellence. And I got to
say this. Your Achievement and Excellence. There you go. I
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just want to say this. If Pablo Torre finds out
whatever about the Knicks, I don't care. We won. I
don't care. We won. Not like he's going to, but
I don't care. We won. Well, I don't care. You
got to hope that he waits until the banner goes up.
Once the banner goes up, don't come back down, man.
Title's in the books. I mean, just think about that, man.
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That's how bad the Kawhi Leonard era is going to
want to be and look back at. You didn't win.
You spent a ton of money. You didn't play a
lot for several of those seasons. Usually when bad eras end,
it's okay. It's over. It sucked. We're moving on from
that guy. No, no, no. This is now, hey, we're
going to be worse off than we were when we
had you. Another five years. And he gets to run
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off across the border back to Toronto. $ 700, 000 lighter money
out of the percentages. Because really, I mean, if you
invested that even in the most conservative of funds over
these couple of years, I mean, you made more than
$ 700, 000 in interest. I mean, I got to tell you, man,
why getting no penalty on this is like... Wow, really?
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I didn't think the players' union was that powerful. Wow.
Because you know the guy. The guy knows what he's doing.
You know what he's getting. You know what he's involved in.
And wait, he doesn't get anything? Do we get the
tapes of whatever conversations he had with the league? It's like, yeah.
It just goes, Dennis. Now you know why the Clippers
were saying, hey, we want the Raptors to take any
penalty that comes down. Wait, you want us to lose
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five first-round picks? Come on, man. We're not doing that. No.
That's it. Now we don't get any of those video
shots of Balmer. Does this mean the hot dog gun
never comes into fruition? Oh, there's no more hot dogs.
They're not going to serve food. They don't have any money.
They're going to allow you to bring your own food
into the arena next year. Yeah, just make sure it checks.
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I went to the movies the other day. You know
how they're usually pretty militant about, hey, no outside food? Yeah.
Guys came in with like a full satchel of In-N-Out.
All right. And then passed out double cheeseburgers to the
whole row. I'm like, where's mine, man? Well, if you
do that, I mean, if you're passing them out, I'm sure.
I got nothing. Don't you think the person taking tickets,
their price would probably be one burger?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And you can bring it in? Yeah, I don't even
think he cared. I think he just smiled and said,
thanks for coming to the movies. Bring your own food
to Clipper Games next year. They're going to allow it in.
They're going to allow it in. Not just water. Whatever
you want, just bring it in. We don't really care.
Park wherever you want to. We're not even going to
charge you. Whatever. You just come on it. Just please
keep coming to the games. Isn't it like $ 100? Please
keep coming. Just please keep coming to the games. That's
a lot of revenue, man. But please keep showing up.
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I do have to give credit to someone that I
never give credit to. And of this story... This stands
out to me the most. Okay. Is that Adam Silver
decided to do something so incredibly over the top that
that pissed off an owner and potentially could ruin a team.
I didn't think he had it in him. I say
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it all the time. He never wants to do anything.
He never wants owners to get mad at him. He
doesn't want the players to get mad at him. He
wants to do nothing. Whenever there's an idea, it's let's
float it out there. Let's see what the response to
it is, and then we'll go forward, right? That's always Adam.
So while we're thinking about this, let's see what people think. Oh,
too many people don't like it, right? It's like the
companies that are just beholden to what people say on
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social media. Oh, I don't think social media likes this.
I never, ever... ever for a minute thought he would
come down, even with the evidence that this would be
something he would do. I give him all the credit
in the world for standing up and making a really
strong statement. Now, obviously I think it was way too much,
but I, but I give him credit for having a spine.
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Cause I didn't know the guy had a spine. I
think if you gave him an x-ray before today, can't
find the spine. No, you mean spleen?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, no spine.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Can't find a spine. Look, he's like an amoeba. He
just like roll goals right through, right? He's got no backbone.
He can go under a door like a rat, right?
Let's just go under the door and come out.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Look at that, man.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I think you've now just figured out a new superhero
or supervillain. Ah, Ratman. I am Ratman. What do you mean, Batman? No,
Ratman is Batman's archenemy. Ratman. Well, there was a rat
in the whole Justice... I didn't think he had a spine.
I didn't think he would do something like this, but
he did. And I, again... His palms had to be
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so sweaty and nervous about doing something like this. The
evidence must be unbelievably overwhelming for this to be the
penalty because what you risk in a big penalty like
this is eventually we're going to find out what it is.
Eventually stuff will get disseminated and it will get out
to us. And we'll go, oh, wow, this is what
the penalty was? That's why Roger Goodell destroyed all the
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tape from Spygate. We don't know. So the evidence must
be unbelievably overwhelming for Adam Silver. to make this decision, right?
Not Roger Goodell. Roger Goodell, I'd be like, boy, the
guy got off light with Goodell. Only five first-round picks. But, like,
this is Adam Silver. Again, the guy never wants to
upset anybody, and here he is throwing haymakers at the
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Clippers for this. I give him the credit for standing
up and making a really difficult decision that I thought...
Six days a week and twice on Sunday. He would say, yeah,
we can't really find anything. We're moving on. Kawhi's trade
goes through. We're going to find Balmer a million dollars,
something crazy or stupid like that. We're going to dock
him a second round pick, something that doesn't matter. No,
this is incredibly strong and over the top, and I
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can't believe he did it. Well, once you get government
involvement and independent information, investigation to it all that it's
not just a under the purview of what the nba
can do i guess that maybe puts a bit more
pressure on him and leans on him to make a
decision that it came to this level yeah i mean
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what else because pablo toric kind of teased that there
was more there When we had that little back and
forth between the league and ESPN a few weeks ago.
And again, the NBA saying, hey, this isn't done yet.
And they come back over the top. Now, where it
gets really chaotic and messy The next level of piquing
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my interest is, as Ballmer says, they're going to explore
every legal remedy. They issued that very strong statement calling it,
you know, basically a malicious prosecution to summarize a two-page missive.
It was about 900 words or thereabouts in terms of
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attacking in his open letter to Adam Silver. as to
how this was processed and how much they had opportunity
to comment and go back and forth in terms of
this investigation. But for Ballmer on the other side, and
I saw Mark Cuban congratulating Pablo Torre and we go
through the owners, like how much is Ballmer looking around going,
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all right, I know how the sausage is made and
all these other locker rooms, all these other boardrooms, And
that's what the next power play becomes, right? Of going
contract to contract and where guys landed or stayed on
what seemed like sweetheart altruistic deals. Sorry, buddy. You know,
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that means looking over in New York or wherever else.
And that Adam Silver is now going to suddenly have
a lot more work on his plate. But in the
short term, it went from sloughing it off to all
right he laid the hammer down.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
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right after we get off the air. So outside of,
and maybe this is why the Raiders you know pick
today to do it hey we know that clippers news
is coming down uh there's been some big quarterback news
next hour we got the whole jalen hurts craziness that
happened and jj mccarthy but officially kirk cousins is your
winner And I put winner in parentheses because in the end,
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he's really playing quarterback for the Raiders. So how much
can you win? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Overall, just
five and a half for the year. I think it's
also over under five and a half for picks in
game one.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Oh, too soon? Is it too soon for these? No, no.
All right, all right. No, look who they're playing. Nobody.
What are you doing? That's true. It's not going to
get any easier. No, if there's ever one that's set
on a tee, here you go. I don't know what
the Raiders are doing, but they did what we thought
they were going to do in the beginning. Kirk Cousins
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is officially QB1 for the Raiders to begin the season. Now,
the Raiders butchered the entire process on this. We draft
Fernando Mendoza. Great. Number one overall pick in the game. Yep,
you want to go get a veteran to come in
that can take some snaps in camp, potentially be a
veteran backup, but first overall pick, he generally starts right away.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Not only are we going to get Kirk Cousins, we're
going to give him all kinds of money that we
didn't need to give him, and we're going to give
him a complicated contract that rolls past this year. What
are we doing? What's going on? What are we doing?
So the time goes on. All right, well, I disagree,
but okay, this is how the Raiders want to do it.
But then camp starts. Fernando Mendoza starts playing well. The
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door is open for him to become the starting quarterback. Okay, well,
maybe this is how it's working. All right, well, then
he plays bad in a couple of games. You're thinking, okay, well,
now they'll go back to Kirk Cousins. Nope, nope, we're
keeping this competition open. Oh, okay, so now the guy's
not ready, and you're still keeping the competition open for
at least another week. Okay, and now it's all said
and done, and we are where we are from the
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very beginning, which is Kirk Cousins will start week one
for the Raiders, not Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, I can't say
that Kubiak did a great job in terms of messaging,
but this lines up with everything we'd heard along the way,
and I think the, hey, let's keep it open, I
don't know if he just wanted people to write about
the Raiders or what, but I mean, they signed Kirk
Cousins almost a full month before the draft, so he
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was already in place For this year, most of the
money is being paid by the Falcons. Not a lot
of deal. Money's out of the Raiders' coffers here. And
then you have the structure, if everything goes to hell,
or it goes really well, and all of a sudden
the Raiders are viable under Kirk Cousins, that he can
hang around another year.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
for what we'd heard all along was Tom Brady and
the brass. They wanted it to, to be a slow
play in terms of getting Mendoza there, right? First year
learning under center, all of those things that we've talked
about for a couple of weeks. Now you just make
it official.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
We finally have to talk about it. So here it is.
He's on the promo. You like that? See you Sunday.
So where are we now? Now that officially Cousins is
the number one quarterback and Mendoza is not starting again.
First quarterback in eight years to be taken number one
overall and not start only the third quarterback in the
last 20 years to be taken number one overall and
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not start week one. This now tells you that you
need to temper your expectations as to how good a
quarterback he can be. Because when you're the number one
overall pick, you're a quarterback, you come in, if you
can't win the job right away, that's a big warning sign.
You can't win a job that is fixed for you
to win, or you can't beat out Kirk Cousins. You're
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the number one pick. The fact that they took him
and still said, we got to go get somebody else
to protect this But they already had him, right? They
already had signed Cousins, and then they decided, all right,
let's build to the future. Yeah, but you knew you
were taking Mendoza number one, right? When you signed Cousins,
you knew where you were. But he's the perfect buddy.
The stepbrothers posters and everything. For me now, for Mendoza.
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If he turns out to be a league average quarterback,
I think that's his ceiling. See, that's all I ever
thought he was. That's his league average quarterback. Even with
a number one tag on him. Number one overall. You
take a guy number one overall, you're expecting multi-Pro Bowls,
and just not actually playing, just now named to the
Pro Bowl. You're expecting multiple Pro Bowls and someone who
is in the top third of the league overall. generally
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every year. Sometimes maybe you have a top three year,
sometimes you have a top eight year, maybe a top 10,
maybe a top 12 year, but then you're back to
a top five year. That's what you should be getting
out of a quarterback you take number one overall. But
the fact that he can't win the job, he couldn't
win the job out of camp, when they opened the
door for him to do it, even after a bad
second preseason game, Clint Kubiak said, no, no, no, we'll
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leave it open for you. He still couldn't win it,
and he still played poorly. If he is a league
average quarterback, That's kind of where I expect his ceiling
to be now. Not any more than that. But that
makes him a Raider Hall of Famer. That's him. No,
come on. Ken Stabler was terrific. Holy roller, the forward fumble.
Come on, man. Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Jim Plunkett's got Super Bowls. Come on, man. No, no, no.
Mark Wilson had the big game against the Cowboys in
the 80s. second Mark Wilson reference. Jeff Hostetler? He had
the best mustache. Yeah, you had mustache guys and everything.
Derek Carr was going to be the MVP before it
was broke. I know, poor Derek Carr. Remember that? The
year of living dangerously. They've had no games lost due
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to injury. Oh, no, there goes There may not be
a year that set a team back in the NFL
more than Derek Carr's injury. They were going to go
to the Super Bowl that year. We could go through
the litany of opening day starters for the Raiders, and
he had a nice run. But you look at it here.
If he can be a league average guy and they have–
the aptitude and fortitude and smarts in the front office
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to draft well. And they've got some pieces around him, right?
That offensive line, it's about three-fifths. And you keep building
that if he's league average and they become league average,
he's a hero. They'll build a statue to him. Because
they haven't done anything, except for, again, that one year
before Derek Carr got hurt, since Rich Gannon was under center.
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All right, we're going back to old man Rice and
Tim Brown, old Charlie Garner, and Rich Gannon. How about that?
League average. If he's a jag, that's kind of where
you're at. Yeah, but if you can get him to
play for eight to ten years, it's more stability than
you've had outside of Derek Carr. But again, that's where
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if you get a guy, number one overall, these are
not stakes where, hey, we got a guy, we surprised him.
I told you, he was the tallest guy, that's why.
He was the tallest guy. You've got to listen to
the whole show. Who's the tallest player? It's Fernando Mendoza.
We'll take him number one. That's great. Well, that's what
we're going to do. He was the guy that kept
coming forward in the quarterback derby when all the guys
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that were supposed to be good dropped off. Coming up next,
we've got more NFL on the way, and we get
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