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December 10, 2025 40 mins

Jason Smith bids farewell to Edwin Diaz. The guys debate the romanticism of Philip Rivers coming back out of retirement to join the Colts. Plus, tension is reportedly building with Giannis and the Milwaukee Bucks!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh, how glorious this is. It's no longer yours. Jason Smith's. Uh,
that's Timmy L. Trumpet, Frostburg. That's Timmy L trumpet for you.
It's capital L. Now it's at capital L for loss,
Timmy L. That's your LA, Your Timmy L trumpet. Now
your tim Now. You love the guy.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
He is the danger. Just like that. It flips. It's
the old rule of thumb. I hate him when he's
on the other team. I got a laundry list of guys.
I hate him when they played White Sox or the
Bulls or the Bears. But as soon as they donned
your uniform and they were the agitator that they always were,
that's my guy, my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's kind of I kind of feel this way. There
was like like if there's a there's a girl you
like and or when you like and and you're not
sure if she likes you, You're like, yeah, like what
do you think about it? You're like, yeah, I don't know.
She's kind of too cool for school A lot of
she never really we've never really connected. Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not the big I'm you know, I don't know.
I think she's okay whatever, that's Frostburg, right, But then

(01:31):
you find oh, hey, so remember we talked about we
talked about her. Uh, she told me she likes you.
She's waiting for you to ask her out, like.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh I love her.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to ask her out right now.
That's Rostburg right now.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Oh I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I love Edwin Diaz.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I love it always in that fluidity there and just waiting,
waiting for the push, waiting for that sign. And here
we have it today as the Winter Meetings.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Go, Jason, I cannot wait for you to wear that
first star to his when he comes out of the bullpen. Yeah.
I want to let you know one thing justin because
in this I want you know I'm gonna be You're
gonna wear that real I'm gonna be here for you.
I'm gonna be here for you to say thank you.
The first time he comes in and it's a one
two three ninth inning with three strikeouts and twelve pitches,

(02:16):
I'll be here for you to say thank you. I'll
also be here the first time he comes in with
a three to nothing lead in the ninth inning and
two walks that hit by pitch. Later it's bases loaded,
nobody out, and you're going, uh, Cofax is getting up
in the bullpit. I'll be here for that too, because
that's also Edwin Diaz.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Don't put that evil on us.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's both. That's both.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
How long does Timmy L. Trumpet capital l uh come
and hang out with the with the Dodgers home. I
guarantee you looks because say he blows the first save,
that he comes in desperate.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Gus, No, no, no, no, I'm telling you what's gop.
Right now, I'm calling Pablo Torri, who you know is
gonna have some kind of investigation because you know Timmy L.
Trumpet's gonna get some sort of record deal being in LA. Now,
how did he get a record deal? How did I
d has signed for that kind of money. How do
we do it? No, Pabo Torri will find out. He's
gonna find out. How you watch, I'll call him up
and say, yeah, you make sure Timmy L. Trumpet when

(03:07):
he's signed to Arista Records or whatever it is. Yeah,
you make sure that's legitimate. Forget about Jayalen Brunson. Don't
worry about that. The Knicks are fine. You worry about
how how Edwin d has a Timmy L. Trumpet got
all the way to Los Angeles. Now I get to
call him Timmy L. Trumpet.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's kind of fun three years, sixty nine million dollars
to do that when your former team didn't engage allegedly
until the last twenty four to forty eight hours and
didn't want to meet your terms expectations, and the Dodgers said, hey,
thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
All right, now let me give you. Let me give
reality here, because I'm gonna give you. I know you
think I'm going one way on this, and I'm not.
Because I've told.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
You you are wearing a miss. And if you listen to.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
What I've talked about Edwin Diaz the last few years,
I will tell you this. Number One, everybody who lost
their minds today. It was all over social media, the
Mets with the number one trend. How do you let
Edwin DZ go? How do you let Edwin die? It's
awful you let Edwin ds go off of? Okay, time
out for one second. I'll I'm the biggest Mets fan
in the world. Maybe he wanted to go to the
Dodgers because I understand wanting to go to the Dodgers.

(04:07):
I really do, and I think every baseball fan understands, well,
if I can get to the Dodgers, they clearly have
shown the last decade they win World Series, they win
National League penance, and I want to be part of that.
So I I there's only so much you can do.
It's well, what were we gonna do? Right cause this
gets to the second part of it is that, Okay,
maybe he wanted to be a dog. Clearly he did

(04:28):
because the Mets money. Mets did the same thing they've
been doing with Peter A. Lonzo is a Hey, let
us see what the money is at Hey, three years
sixty nine million for the Dodgers and the Mets that
we can do about the same stuff. Right there. Offer
was three years and sixty six million. They had some
money deferred. The Dodgers had some money deferred, but in
the end, Edwin Diaz wanted to go be a Dodger,
So okay, so he's there. The second thing is this,

(04:50):
I am really okay saying goodbye to Edwin Diaz. I
really am because Edwin Diaz has been I would say so.
Sometimes he's been great and sometimes he's not been. His
first year with the Mets was awful. His second year
was fantastic, got a big contract, third year got hurt
out for the year, next year was terrible. Last year

(05:12):
he was really good. He's an every other year reliever.
And I'm not gonna give one hundred million dollars to
a guy for the ninth inning who's been as volatile
and up and down as Edwin Diaz because this is
what the guy does. Yes, sometimes he comes into it's one, two, three.
Sometimes it's why does he have to walk the first
two guys? Why does he have to hit a guy?
Why is it throw a wild pitch?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
You talk about is his wild pitches and and and
uh uh and and another and other uh uh situations
that he comes into that's not clearly. I can throw
strikes and get out of situations like I think last
year he had a combine fifteen or seventeen hit by
pitches and wild pitches. Right, So that's like every every
three innings he gives you what he gives you one, one,

(05:52):
one or both of those. Right. He's a very volatile reliever,
and he's coming off a great year. So is he
gonna be great again? Yeah? Maybe, but maybe not because
as we've seen with relief pictures, it's very common to
see guys I have a great year, but I was overused.
My next year is not great, then I'm bounced back
a year after that. Relief pictures from year to year
are really difficult. You're trying to catch lightning in a

(06:14):
bottle and you're trying to catch guys on the upswing.
So that's why, Hey, we'll give Devin Williams fifty million
dollars because we saw him be really, really good two
years ago. Last year not so great. But we know
we can fix him. We're on the upswing. We're not
spending as much money as he would on Edwin Diz.
So I get it. I get not give what's the
money to give Edwin Diaz? You're gonna give seventy five
million dollars to him to close for four years. You're

(06:35):
gonna do that. I mean, you have other needs to
figure out that are bigger than the ninth inning. Not
the ninth inning's not a big deal, but you have
other needs that are bigger than figuring out the ninth inning,
especially with a guy that every time he came in
you didn't know what you were gonna get from year
to year, right, because that's what he's been. Great, terrible, injured, terrible, great. Okay,
I'm I'm really okay with not giving him one hundred

(06:57):
million dollar contract just to keep him in. Oh my goodness,
let's keep that Edwin Diaz. That's okay. I am okay
with him going. And congratulations to the Dodgers for for
forgetting Edwin Diaz. It's awesome. I'll get to see him here, sincerely,
I'll get to hear narcoly, I'll get to hear Narco
and you will be sweating him like we sweated ken
Lee Janssen for the seven year running. Had a Dodger closer,

(07:20):
you thought sweating Kenley's possible. This is gonna be sweating
like Robert Hayes an airplane in that, but he's just the.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Head like Kimberl and Jansen at the same time.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Oh, it's it's like they bought like some sort of
super vultron to throw right and lefty. That's how much
you're gonna be sweating Edwin Diaz this year.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
The curiosity is how do you follow up the magnificence
that he was. You mentioned the hit by pitches in
the wild pitch. Yeah, it got to fifteen in his
sixty six innings of work. Still a whip of about
point eight five, eight six whatever it was, and a
strong era four point six strikeouts per walk, all of

(07:58):
those metrics that are fantastic. And when we're talking about
the Mets, we're talking about the Dodgers, we're also talking
about a couple of teams that play in a different
it's the same game, different sport or vice versa. However
you want to do it, because there's only so many
teams that can play in the Hey, we have the luxury.
We already signed a reliever. What about this other guy. Yeah,

(08:20):
we could go in for that, but he wanted to
feel loved and evidently felt more love with the Dodgers.
Talk about change of scenery, opportunity, the winning and consistency
that is there versus some of the uncertainty in Metsland,
as we have the re signing of Babe Schwarber there
in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But all of that to say.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Three for sixty nine. Look, last year, the Dodgers went
in on a couple of closers and they said, yeah,
that did work. That's fine, Let's do it again because
they can well.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
And that's the thing, and that's the part about closers
that people don't get, is that just because you get
a guy with a great ear the year before, everybody
thinks that every every closer when they hit the big
time is Rivera and Hoffman, and they're not right. Oh,
Josh Hater. Josh Hater's not Josh Hater anymore. Right. You
get guys that they get up there, they have a
couple of big years, they get figured out, they're up,

(09:15):
They're down, They're up there down. That's how it goes.
Edwin Diaz is the quintessential superstar closer in Major League Baseball.
Year to year, his production varies wildly, and we're coming
off a big year. So okay, am I am I
okay with seeing him go? I am because because this
is how it goes with the relief pictures. You're you're
really you are trying to catch lightning in a bottle

(09:36):
with relief pictures every year. And we thought last year, right,
just for the Dodgers, all the look at this move
the Dodgers, the Dodgers and Dodgers. Yeah, okay, yeah, great
move on paper. We were saying the same things last
year when it was Tanner Scott and all of a sudden,
they have three closers, and now, how are you gonna
beat this Dodger bullpen? Now they got three o'clock. The
end of the year, was anybody close? Roki Sasaki come
in and close. We have nobody else? Right, just when

(09:57):
you think they had it all settled, they were still
looking for guys, desperate for guys at the end of
the year. Just so when you understand Edwin Diaz, that's
kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
No, but that's it, right, it's but it's the ability
to adapt and move, recognize your your bad decisions. We
talk about it all the time, sunk costs of things
that went badly. Dodgers. Look at the guys that they
signed last offseason. None of them were active for the
playoffs because they stunk. They just said no, no, you
guys are we don't know no need you you know
Canfordo And I know a bunch of that money came

(10:26):
off the books is what people forget as well, right, Clayton, Kershaw,
Confordo like all this stuff. You know, you're looking at
players that it really amassed a pretty good pay rate
when it's all said and done. But for the Dodgers,
you look at the and evaluate what you have sasaki

(10:47):
by all estimations, right, where is the fourth or fifth
in your rotation this year? Right? And they'll move there
unless they have to do another break glass in case
of emergency, because you already have proof of concept that
it's not too big for him if he needs to
do that. But you had the opportunity to go into
the marketplace, Mets already signed a guy, and maybe Edwin

(11:07):
Diaz was a little salty about that because once upon
a time before you broke him and we had that
video that went viral a little bit. Thank you to
everybody that found that in TikTok and land in instagram
of you broke him, and now you get to bring
him back and try to repair him. Like the six
million dollar man. You know, it's a little more expensive, bigger, faster, stronger,
But it's that idea.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's funny you say that. I actually listened to the
ninth inning of that game driving in tonight like I was. So,
I'm like, no, I'm cool man. You know what, Oh traffic,
I'm gona listening to ninth inning of the Mets Brewers
from two years ago. I'll listened at ninth inning and
I'm and I'm calling this. I'm calling the play by
play for Howie Rose. This is not the dominant Williams
that we have seen before. It was great to put
me in a great coming out well, but sometimes sometimes

(11:48):
you go back and find your biggest wins.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
And for Jason, that's that's where he decided to Listen. Dude,
I gotta go back to eighty five or two thousand
and five. That's all I got.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Brighter days though. The White Sox have the number one
pick in the draft, but wow.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know what on it? And I can be honest,
I thought, going on a go how long until Harmon
mentions the White Sas got the number one pick in
the draft? I said, first ninety seconds you made it
ten minutes. I was waiting. I said, you guys gonna
get in the first ninety. You're gonna get that in
now you make ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
But no, I mean deep thoughts here on Edwin Diaz. Right,
the greatness nice of whether the trumpetereer is now on
the team payroll, But I'd be.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Look, it's a it's a great signing on paper. He's
a terrific reliever, but he's not the model of consistency.
If he was, if he was year to year forty
saves an era under two and his war was three,
the Mets would have give him another hundred million dollars. He
would have stayed. But he's not. And I think the
fact that the Mets know him more than anybody and
they still said, well, we would like you if you

(12:48):
are this kind of guy. They feel they can eminently
replace him, and I'm fine with it. It was I
was a little upset to them. Everybody saw all the
Mets let him go. The Mets let him go, The
Mets have bigger problems in the ninth inning.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well again, right, it becomes the you know what's the
tipping point? Was it a non engagement period that he
thought he would get more love, right, because feelings are real.
I mean, look at look at the guy. Look at
our guy, Bivaqua. He's still crying. I think he has
a press conference schedule for tomorrow morning to talk about
how Rudolph didn't get to play in the rain to

(13:21):
your games or something. So you know you've got that
part of it, the human side of it. Devid Williams
shows up and it's like, well, what about me? Like
why are we not taking care of me and my needs?
And whether it comes down to years and dollars or
there's a divide there. The Dodgers decided to give him
the the higher average value a twenty three a year,

(13:43):
and let's face it, it's Los Angeles. They win a lot.
You're gonna have a lot of opportunities, and uh, if
you win, big boy, you're a hero. Immediately you'll get
look at all these guys, right, great.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Move by the Dodgers, But understand, that's that's what you're
gonna get with edwin. You're gonna get great games. You're
gonna get games where you say, what the hell is
going on here? And you're just coming off a great year.
You thought you had the bullpen solve next. Look, great
move on paper. But I'm telling you what, nobody knows
the guy who seeing the guy you ups and downs
better than I do. And I'm telling you I'm okay

(14:16):
with him going. I really am. But he's a closer.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Mariano Rivera is not walking through that door. Hall of
Famer slinging Billy Wagner in the regular season for is
not walking through that door. Trevor Howkmins not walking through that.
That's it, That's all you got. Otherwise I gotta go
back to suitor. You just wait, rolly fingers.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Sure, it's a long time wait, Okay, it's all right.
Fross Bedamn man, you're dancing the narcos like a flamingo.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
You think he's gonna flip and suddenly do like a
college recruit where suddenly he's a Dodger fan because of
Edwin Diaz.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Uh no, yeah, no, no, no, no not can he
be the guy to flip? That was great?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
No, you don't learn to play the trumpet? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'll tell you, Diaz really good. It's okay that he's gone.
Telling you it's k that he's gone.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of course it is because he's good. It's okay, but
unless say, I mean, if Devin Williams isn't fixed though,
by the end of April, you're singing a different tune.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
They get Suarez, they're gonna get somebody else. They have
somebody else in my trust me, trust me, Everything is fine.
It's okay. They didn't do this, it's okay. You want
a guy coming in that's on the upswing, that could
be on a big year. You get a guy coming
off a bad year who has alternated good bed every
single year. What do you think is gonna happen? Like? No,
what bet on the Giants to win the World Series
and the teens when they were coming off the World Series,

(15:28):
they bet on them the year after when they're stunk,
and then it won the next year. Telling you that's
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Speaker 1 (16:55):
Not only Edwin ds will do. That is not a
john of someone who closed games out. I want to
reliever who load the bases with nobody out the ninth.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
See now you're obsessing. You're trying to put bad voodoo
on on Frostburg and the Dodgers because you're you're sad
that Edwin Diaz his trumpet playing friend and a company.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I am no longer, way.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
More than sad, you know what, I'm sad for all day?

Speaker 5 (17:24):
I am.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I am only sad because I was really expecting that
to be a mashup tight shirt. I was expecting to
hear I want Hippopotamus or Christmas like with Creeping Death
by Metallica, Like, well, where was that mashup man that's
coming up next hour? All right?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
What to make? I mean, come on, you let the
cat out of the proverbial bag.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
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(18:02):
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Speaker 3 (18:06):
You just wait for the Narcos Christmas edition.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh sure, yeah, you're right. Okay, now that's fine, it'll
be gread Timmy L. Trumpet. I'll enjoy hearing Timmy L. Trumpet.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
His Christmas album's off the chains.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
It's already out. They are. He's doing stuff with like
the La Phil r Mont. Yeah, DUDEA mel is appearing
on his uh oh.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Wow, Okay, ready, are they actually gonna put him over
as you're driving on the freeway instead of the dude
that's been on that billboard for years? Is not Timmy L.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah? No, I think the woman on the billboard has
been there. Wait, like the soloists, like forever. That's like
a twenty year old picture on the side of the front.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Does that get refurbished like a bridge, like every every
year they go and touch it up? I mean, I
gotta know.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
So maybe the most unwise unretirement we've seen in the
NFL in quite some time. Philip Rivers. It is official.
He is unretiring from the NFL re member he walked
away in twenty twenty, his seventeenth year in the league.
He is rejoining the Colts on their practice squad amid

(19:12):
an injury crisis. It's left them without all of their quarterbacks,
right Anthony Richardson, Remember he was on the injured list
with a facial injury earlier this season. He's still not
ready to come back. Daniel Jones done for the year
with the torn achilles Riley Leonard week to week with
a knee injury. He worked out for the Colts last
night and on his forty fourth birthday, and the Colts decide, yeah,

(19:34):
we're going in on Philip Rivers right now. See this
is why this is a bad idea, because immediately.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Can you get mad about it? For me, it just
turns screaming.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
You go and look at the Colts schedule and you say, oh,
this is not gonna go. How Philip Rivers thinks it's
gonna go. First of all, you're at Seattle on side. Now,
maybe he plays in that game, maybe not. Then he
got San Francisco, Jacksonville and at Houston. I mean, I
don't know if I want to watch game week eighteen

(20:04):
or if I don't want to watch, because my goodness,
the Texas right now are taking bets on sacks and interceptions.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I mean, this is his time to get rid of
the ball, that's the question. I mean, we've got to
be like one point four seconds gone.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Now, I'll give you there's a little bit of a
sliver of sunnyside before I tell you why this is
a horrible idea. Look, when the Colts got Daniel Jones
in the offseason, that's why I said, hey, they're my
long shot pick for the Super Bowl, because Daniel Jones
will work in this offense and they have enough playmakers
and he'll be able to do it. And what happened.
First eight weeks, Colts were great. They were the best
team in football. Right, they were one bed ad Ni

(20:40):
Mitchell drop ball away from being undefeated. Now the hard
times have hit and they're desperate because they went in.
They went in to get Sauce Gardner. They made a
big trade for that, and now that's not really working out.
That becomes a bigger thing for the future of the squad.
Right because you thought you had your quarterback set. Daniel
Jones is going to take a year. Oh yeah, you

(21:01):
wus to get ready. You don't make that trade for
a Sauce Gardener unless you think Daniel Jones is our
long term solution.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
We're pushing all in. Yeah, we're going to try to
win it this year, four to five the secondary and
we'll give up those picks and now you're kind of
in Noma's Like, now, Daniel Jones will probably come back
on a song sweetheart deal. Yeah right, he'll.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Probably come back somewhere like what like probably another one.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Year fifty or whatever. See when he comes back together.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But it's I get the desperation and I get the
idea that romanticism of here comes Philip Rivers, Here comes
Philip Rivers. Here here comes Philip Rivers, who played okay
enough in twenty twenty. But you saw at the end.
He was at the end, and yes they threw the football. Well,
Philip Rivers. Look Hall of Fame quarterback, right, Philip Rivers.
He was great. He's forty four, he's been away from

(21:50):
the game for five years. Okay, understand that, Like a
lot of people get confused when, oh, they hear a
name and they look at the back of his football
card and say, we're getting a superstar. You're not getting
the Philip Rivers of two thousand and seven. You're not
get the Philip Rivers of twenty fifteen. Not in the
Philip Rivers twel You're getting a guy who's been out
of the league for five years. And it's not like

(22:13):
he went out of the league at twenty two, and
he went on some kind of you know, walk about
and now I'm back. No, he's forty four, man, how
do you think this is gonna go? I really, I
want to know what the hell could he possibly have
shown them in his tryout to say, yes, we're gonna
sign Philip Rivers.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
There's guys on practice squads across the league that are younger,
that have more reps that you'd be better signing a
third string guy off of somebody's roster to bring him in, right,
I mean, this is not gonna go how you think
it is. I get that people love it because it's
a name from the past that's coming back. And when
you hear Philip rivers name, immediately you're five to ten
to fifteen years young here because you remember his prime.

(22:53):
So it sounds great to you. Whatever that that chemical
in your brain is that that makes you happy when
you hear about something in the past.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
It's why you go, I got a good book on it.
It's it's fun.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
It's why people, you know, when they get old, they
talk about the past because okay, because I was younger,
and oh things are better when I was younger. Yeah,
things are better when you're younger because you were younger
and you were more outgoing and doing things.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I get her. This is just five years right, we're going.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Back the philip Rivers. You are getting what do you
really think you're gonna get hurt?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't know what the hell are the Colts?

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Like? I mean it, man, like this, like, I feel
like the Colts ran this team in the off season,
and they ran it really well, and all of a sudden,
the spotlight got on them and they wilt it because
they panic to make a big trade for Sauce Gardner
and now they panic to make this move for Philip Rivers.
And I'm saying, what are they doing they? Is the
world spinning too fast them? Because I think it is

(23:45):
because I don't know in what world. Hey, he's familiar
with the offense. Oh so other guys couldn't come in
and grab the offense. I mean yeah, they have good
playmakers and watch Daniel Jones come in. So I get
while you think, well, we can have a few guys
come in.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
And do well.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
But again, forty four not in football shit. You talk
about guys being in football shape, not being in football shape.
That are guys who are twenty four to twenty five,
but they miss a month and a half of training
camp and it's well, hey, god, have some time to
get back in. Really not gonna be this this player
until the middle later part of the season because they
missed so much. Got to get back in football. Show

(24:17):
five years he's been gone, and it's not like he's
been working out all the time. Hey, I'm ready to
come back. I'm ready to come back, ready to come back,
ready to come back. It's not Colin Kaepernick where you got.
I'm still working outs, still working out. This is he's
been coaching football and having more kids. And also, hey,
I'm ready, Like what, I don't understand what the Colts
think they're gonna get with this.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Seven and eighteen seconds before you h you mentioned Kaepernick
because I knew that would come up as it did,
just of course.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
You know the guys that are working out right, not
not that you know Kaepernick's a bad idea too, because
he's been gone for even longer. What I'm saying is
that there's guys who are still working over George. Yeah, no,
I hear about the kickers all the time, Right, I've
been kicking on this high school field, waiting for the chance,
waiting for the chance. All of a sudden they call up,
they get a chance. Out of there, they're an all
pro kicker and they've got like a five year, fifteen.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Million, good old young way coup. He was out of
the league and then became accurate and then well he
was out of the league. But hey, he had a
good run.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Dude, he kicked the ground. Yeah, but he had ground.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, until he kicked the ground.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
He had a good run. He kicked the ground.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
No, it's okay, but that's it will always be remembered.
We all want to be remembered one way. I mean,
how you're remembered. You can't choose. But for Philip Rivers,
it comes down to this, right. Obviously a lot's been made.
He and Stike and talk talk about the offense, similarities
of what he runs with the high school team that
just had its twelve and one season and everything else,

(25:47):
And yeah, I agree with you. There's probably a guy
on a practice squad, whether it's Bailey Zappi or somebody else,
that would be a more easily insert here. If you're
looking for a full full skill set, as it were.
Philip Rivers has it run in forever. He was a
guy that they couldn't run a quarterback sneak with, so

(26:09):
it's not like he's diminished in any of that part
of it. Can he drop back? Daniel Jones the last
couple of weeks on a broken leg, couldn't run either,
so they had to change the offense. I'm not saying
this ends well. It starts with Seattle. You can get
to run him out here against that squad, no, thank you,
But it's the I'm captivated by it for sure. I'd

(26:31):
love the behind the scenes. This is where I need
an end season hard knocks of Well, we call Phil.
I talked to Phil every week. Let's get inmate here
for work out. Look at the arm might still be
live and have four weeks in it.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Did they sit down Sunday night and say, okay, we're
gonna order food and no idea is stupid, right, like
no ideas to just put it up on the port
shout that someone said, Hey Burt Jones, Nah, Burt Jones,
long time ago. Yeah he was good. Yeah, but I'm no,
I'm not sure, Okay. Mike Pagel no, Mike Pagel a

(27:05):
little too long ago, Archleister, no, non starter.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
No.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Now with gambling, it's a bigger problem too.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh maybe now he can come back, though gambling is more?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Is more?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
O kaid out and Philip Rivers. Hey, wait a minute,
hey wait wait wait wait wait, you might have something there,
Philip Rivers, Hey, twenty twenty was pretty good. Twenty twenty
was not yesterday. Okay, you're going back to the beginning.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Was in twenty four and eleven, I think was his
final touchdown to intersection ration.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
And I remember him at the end. I remember him
in the last game of the playoff game. It's ooh,
he's he's he's done. No.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I mean, on the plus side, look, he might be
the human jugs gun for the the receivers there with
his high school squad. He might he might have been training.
I mean, if nothing else, he's chasing around kids and grandkids.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
We know that.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
When you go into your doctor's officer, you're getting exercise
while I'm chasing around my kid. The doctor goes, yeah,
not not even close. Oh, I'm chasing around my kids. Oh, Philip, great,
sign a contract with us. Yeah, come on in.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Oh no, I'm certainly not endorsing this from a football perspective.
I have many many questions from a fan, Give me,
give me some pom poms to cheer for a forty
four year old guy happy birthday yesterday.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I mean, look, I hope it. I hope it goes.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
But it's just not it'll go better than the Jets. Again,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh, he could beat the Jets easy if he If
you would line him up as quarterback across from the
Jets right now, he would he have beaten the Dolphins'
last Oh, I don't know about that. I think playing
quarterback for the Dolphins, he could have beat the Jets.
They just gonna hand the ball off every time. That's
all you gonna do. I mean, right, how do people
think this is gonna go? I mean, I mean I
get the desperation.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
No, no, no, But but that's the thing, right, it's
an absolute curiosity. I don't understand the vitriol towards it. Right,
And you're in a break glass in case of emergency,
and what's gone and transpired over the last month for
the Colts is about as much of an emergency situation
as we've seen from a team in a while.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I mean this, how do you think this is? I
mean week eighteen, I mean I can't. I mean that
game against the Texas, I'm gonna watch with with what
my eyes open and one eye closed, but one eye
like you're watching a horror movie when you're scared, and
you are, but I still want to see what's going on.
That's what I'm good. That's how that's we well.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I mean, you're hopeful that by then the Texans will
have wrapped everything up and everybody's sitting down and watching
like it's a bowl game.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Time not to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. You want to know how long Philip
Rivers has been gone?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
How long?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Because Steve De Sager could be Philip Rivers kid. He's
got what's trending right now in the wide world.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Steve, that's the quarterback who won the last Charger game.
As I recall, in the playoffs, because you know, they've
won precious few playoff games in the past decade and
have not hosted a playoff game since they moved to
LA twenty seventeen, and as good as this season is
going may not be hosting a playoff game this year.
If you go back to recent history of Chargers football,

(29:56):
Philip Rivers name is all over it. But that whole
thing becoming a s finalists for the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
let's restart to clock on that one now five more
years away.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
But that's when he gets on the field. If he
gets out there and sees against all, there's a bad idea.
I don't think he I think he still keeps that clock, right.
I think he's got his only practice squad now, but
he's on the active roster. Right, they have no quarterbacks,
so how does he not get up? Oh?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, that's exactly it, right, I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
What I'm saying is there's three days to make three
or four days to make a different decision.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Here, put it this way. They have three injured quarterbacks.
Daniel Jones is having achille surgery this week. The backup
Riley Leonard has strained knee ligaments.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
And yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Mentioned the accident, shall we say, pregame locker room with
Anthony Richardson where a bar broke hit him in the face,
literally broke the orbital bone. And he's been slowly coming
back from that the last couple of months. These Colts
started the season seven and one. They've lost four and
five since. What you can't forget in this story is, yes,
Rivers hasn't played in five years. Bold type for that one.

(31:00):
But Rivers is a former Chargers quarterback and the Cold
Tag coach Shane Steiken was his quarterbacks coach there. Falcons
wide receiver Drake London missed practice again with a spring knee.
Atlanta place Thursday at Tampa Bay. The Steelers say wide
receiver dk Metcalf should play Monday despite stomach pain. He
was hospitalized after a hit last Sunday. Bengals defensive end

(31:21):
Trey Hendrickson is out for the year after core muscle surgery.
San Francisco cutkicker Matt Gay. Last Saturday Night's Big Ten
title game drew over eighteen million viewers on Fox TV.
The first Bowl game is this Saturday Saturday night in
La Boise State against Washington. The college football Playoff starts
a week from Friday. In the NBA, we have only

(31:43):
two games tonights, and the Knicks are pretty much dominating
the one going on right now. These are NBA Cup Quarterfinals,
and you know you can't keep the Knicks down when
something's on the line like this Nicks and the third
quarter with a lead at Toronto of ninety four seventy nine,
Nick shooting percentage is bound to fifty five percent. Jalen
Brunson's twelve of seventeen from the floor for his thirty

(32:05):
three points so far.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
We want the Cup. We want the Cup. We want
the Cup under a blood red sky, I mean on
a blood red court.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Well, I did read that the Knicks are the only
team to reach the NBA Cup quarterfinals in all three
seasons of this tournament.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
So in that banner at MSG enough said three time
Cup quarterfinalists.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Well, given the options in Nick's history in the last
fifty years, I guess you may as well. Top seed
Orlando eliminated Miami one seventeen onea Desmond baying thirty seven points.
In college hoops, there's a doubleheader at Madison Square Garden.
Number ten BYU was down by twenty one points at
the half and still be Clemson on a three at
the buzzer halftime. Yukon over Florida thirty nine to thirty two.

(32:50):
Among the NHL games tonight, Anaheim scored at the end
of regulation and then won at Pittsburgh in a shootout
four to three Carolina with a home win over Columbus.
Dallas was in action tonight, winning four to three at Winnipeg.
Lionel Messi was named MVP of Major League Soccer for
the second straight year. Shoho Tani was voted AP's Male

(33:12):
Athlete of the Year for a record tying fourth time
for the last five years. The Phillies re signed Kyle Schwarber.
It's official, and Schwarber will be on Team USA and
March at the World Baseball Classic. Philadelphia gave manager Rob
Thompson a one year extension for twenty twenty seven. The
White Sox won MLB's draft lottery, and yes, the Dodgers
are signing closer Edwin Diaz from the Mets to a

(33:34):
three year deal. His ERA last season was one point
sixty three, while the Dodger Penn blew twenty seven saves
last year.

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(34:05):
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next after big news today, we get to double down
on the biggest NBA Bowl prediction we've made because a
big trade is coming.

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Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh no, this is my new favorite.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
You wanted your Metallica?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Let him breathe now, just picturing the guy on the
from the video on the table bouncing up and down
like to this song.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
You know what, Johnny got his gun? Not a Christmas movie?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
No, no, not a Christmas movie. Not a Christmas movie.
Good book?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
U sure? Terrifying?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Jason Smith Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports A Radio Studios. We have.
Believe it or not, there is more drama surrounding the
college football playoff process. Wait did we tell you what
was said? Just a little while ago. We got that
coming up in ten minutes. But let's revisit a Big
Bowl prediction we made going all the way back to

(35:22):
the end of last year, when we said, by next
trade deadline, Yannis is on a new team.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
All right.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
They tried to make it work. It didn't work. You
could see there was tension. They're going to make a
move now. This past offseason, Jannis sort of let it
be known he liked the Knicks. It didn't work out
because the Knicks, hiring a new head coach, wanted to
see how things went. We're gonna wait, Jannis. I'm sure
a little embarrassed by that. Dude, I'm Yannis. Okay, that's great.
Then he tried to say no, no, no, I don't

(35:51):
want to play there. Then a couple weeks ago, at
the start of the Buck season going poorly again all
Doc Rivers fault. Uh wow, we had We had the
final public reports that now Janis and the team are
talking about his future and that whether it involves him
staying with Milwaukee, you're going to another team. Just so happens,

(36:11):
on that day, Jannis gets hurt cath injury. He's out
two to four weeks. So he told you last off season,
by the deadline, Gianics is going to be traded. And
then we told you that night that Janis has played
his last game as a Buck because if you're trying
to trade for him and now you've gone so far
down that road that he can't stay at this point, right,

(36:34):
you know it's not working. If there's all this talk
about wanting out, wanting out, how does he come back?
And you have the Shams Tarani report earlier today that
says Bucks players are all feeling all the tension amid
Yannis's situation. Quote, we can feel the tension of play
here as he talks about his options with the franchise.
You don't come back and play after you this far

(36:55):
down the road. You know he is gone. And the
reason we said he's played his land this game as
a Buck is that the next month, it's two months
to the trade deadline, right, you think about it so
far away. Oh, it's got a couple of months. He's
gonna be out for the next month of it. Okay,
So if he's out for the next month, teams that
are gonna trade for Yannis don't want him back on
the floor. They don't want it back. No, no, no,

(37:17):
we don't. Don't show us he's healthy. We're fine, We're fine.
We want to get him in our building. We want
to be able to look at him and make sure
and monitor his his recovery. But we don't want him
back on the floor. You don't. We don't need to
worry about you putting him back out there showing us
that he's healthy. So you see this every day, it
just gets more and more to the end, the natural

(37:37):
conclusion that Giannis is gonna be on another team. It's
gonna happen by the deadline, maybe before then. Uh like
maybe you say, if he's cleared to come back and
he's feeling healthy, that's when the trade will happen. So
it could happen beginning of the new year, because anybody
that wants to get Jannis want him for longer and
not have to wait till the deadline. But he's played
his last game for the Bucks. I mean, I'm trying

(37:59):
to find a way to see a scenario in which
he's back out there playing for them again, and as
long as he's got more than one team that wants him,
because the more the Knicks win, the less they're gonna
want to say, hey, we're gonna upset our team for Yanna's.
But there's gonna be a couple of teams out there.
He's got to have a couple of places he'd rather go,
at least for this year before they figure things out.
I don't see there being any situation in which, yeah,

(38:21):
we put them back out there, because then you're screwing
with the trade, because the trade is inevitable at this point.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Well, folks also saying, hey, Yanna's bought real estate. Do
you know that's the number one unless it's not unless
guys with a lot of money, you know, by real estate.
But all of how many real estate stories have we
heard the last like twelve years of all the guy
bought a house here on right and not getting trades.
It's got nothing to do with it. It's just a
guy that's diversifying his holdings of real estate, a good investment.

(38:49):
I mean, what are you gonna do? But it's for Yannis.
It's hit that point. We talked about it a lot
with the Bucks going back during his entire tenure. Right
we're in when you're thirteen of Giannis. He's not the
bright eyed young guy that he was once upon a
time when he was being introduced to taco places and
all of that stuff. They had that run up where

(39:09):
everything worked and they want a title. Otherwise, there's been
a lot of early exits, a lot of frustration, the
failed marriage with Damian Lillard. He gets hurt, goes back
to Portland, like all of these things that you've got
a system. Now you're ten and fifteen, you're tenth and
grasping its straws, trying to find some semblance of a

(39:31):
rotation that works. He's out a month and you lend
some of it to the all right, we need to
get something done. Whether he wanted Dock fired or not,
we don't know. But in terms of trying to get
the ancillary parts and make a trade, I don't have
the assets to go do that. So now it becomes
the inevitable. All right, where does he go to finish

(39:51):
out his career? Because as much as you want to
be loyal, as much as you want to run it
out and be that one team guy, at some point
you're bashing your head against a wall trying to break
through and get yourself back into a deep playoff run,
which is clearly not happening. With this roster.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
No, sometimes you just get too far down row where
you know there's no way to get back from it,
and there's no way back from this. You imagine you're
Honis again saying, oh no, no, I'm good. I want
to stay dude, that's not happening.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Well, but he went in public before he got hurt,
right talking about how frustrated he was and he wasn't
used to losing at that rate, and that it was
starting to wear and certainly that snowballs

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Exit ab out a Fresca exit, swelling Dome, more NBA
on the way, but coming up next, a new crazy
part of the college football playoff controversy
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