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So Mike Tomlin resigns. We are a big deal in Pittsburgh.
We're kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Well kind of a big deal up and down that corridor,
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Look the big NFL news of the day. Mike Tomlin,
after nineteen years resigns as head coach of the Steelers,
and every single NFL analyst was very sure to say,
this is him resigning. He didn't get fired, as so
many want to make sure you know, he didn't get fired,
not misappropriated. He's resigning. Okay, he's resigning, resigning, residning, resigning
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his fam consciously uncoupling. Uh, well, yeah, that was a
very conscious uncoupling. This is like when I take the
thing out of the train, like in the in the
TV show where it's like the bomb could go off
on the train. What do we have to do? Well,
you have to let the end of the train go
and save the other people. So the guy goes out
and the train just kind of goes down. We gotta
go fifty five miles an hour the whole time. We
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gotta do that. We didn't they do the consciousuncupling.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That was a really good the That was a great movie.
The Denzel Unstoppable with Chris Pine was good one. I
think it was in Pittsburgh. I want to say it
was in Pittsburgh. Denzel is a longtime train motorman operator,
Chris Pine is new They work together and a train
gets out of control. Uh, and they both have to
work to stop it. They're on the train, they have
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to stop it because they can't. It's a really really
good movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It was Towns in Pennsylvania, filmed across West Virginia, New York, Ohio,
and Pennsylvania using the real railroads.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Very under Probably one of my top five, well maybe
top three Denzel movies. I mean, that's how good it was.
That's how good it was. I'll go Training Day Glory
and I'll go that. Yeah. Chris Pine star Trek into
the Woods. Ye, well, he actually plays Captain Kirk in
the movie. Yes, he gets beamed down to the train,
sees there's a problem, but they can't beam him back up.
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But they send down a couple of you know, the
Chris Rock. They send down Yeoman Johnson and a couple
of other people and they wind up dying right away. Right,
that's where it goes the Red Shirt. You're gonna die,
guys in the Red Shirts, Yeah, you're gonna die. Uh So.
Mike Tomlin has resigned as head coach of the Steelers. Look,
we talked about this last night that what do we
say the future was gonna be firm? Right after the
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Steelers lost last night. It was I guarantee you this
is how the offseason is gonna go. They're gonna sit
down with each other and the Steelers are going because look,
the Steelers needing to understand if they replace Mike Tomlin,
who clearly has hit his expiration date with the Steelers,
they were going to have to understand that the guy
they're gonna go out there and get is gonna be better,
potentially could be better. Not a lot of guys are
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gonna be better because Tomlin's still for his faultse the
last ten years. You know, still you win the division
almost every year, you go to the playoffs, you play
a playoff game. That's how it works. So it was
gonna be a sit down, like, hey, if you come back,
you have to understand that we need a modern offense.
We got to treat the NFL twenty twenty six like
its twenty twenty six. We can't run the offense like
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it's nineteen eighty seven. And look, I love nineteen eighty seven.
Guns n' Roses came out with that petit for instruction.
The METSA just won the World Series. I mean, eighty
seven was a great year. I was watching Tony Katain
dancing on White Snake's card like seventeen different videos. I
mean eighty seven, I love eighty seven. Eighty seven was awesome.
But this is how Mike Tomlin likes to run his offense,
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so that the conversation would be, if you're up, you
gotta be up for a franchise quarterback, a different way
of doing things instead of, hey, the quarterback is a
necessary evil, and we're gonna load up on defense. We're
gonna run the football as much as we have to.
We'll throw the football and we have to. We win
clutch games. That's how Mike Tomlin wants to win. If
you are on board with the big changes, great, If not,
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maybe we consciously uncouple. And it happened really fast that
Mike Tomin resigned as head coach. And honestly, as much
as this is a breakup where hey, it's nobody's fault,
it's nineteen years and both sides need to move in
different directions, this is way better for the Steelers because
the Steelers value success differently than any other team. Right,
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I'd be more than happy to have my team be
some and that wins nine to ten games a year.
Sneaks into the playoffs, loses a playoff game. I'd love
the Jets that. I haven't a playoff game in fifteen years, right,
So yeah, I'd love that. But the Steelers it's different.
And the Steelers you can't keep running your team like this.
You need fresh ideas to come in and run, especially
offensively like it's twenty twenty six. You need a franchise
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quarterback that can throw the football all over the field.
You need to be bold and free agency. You can't
just say well, we'll go get DK Metcalf where e
If DK Metcalf was still great, the Seahawks would have
kept him. I mean they would They didn't have to
trade him. They didn't have to trade they could have
kept him. You have a couple of Jags at running back.
Jalen Warren is okay and Friarmuth is not a great
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tight end. You have nothing offensively that scares anybody. You
traded it. You couldn't figure it out with George Pickens.
You Traine Away as a Pro Bowl year with the
Dallas Cowboys. You need something new. This is great. This
is a great day for the Steelers simply because now
they can move into twenty twenty six in the NFL
and as bad new as everybody else. Yeah, because all
the other teams are saying, yeah, well, you know, they're
tough thing to play against, but hey, we get them
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the playoffs, we're gonna beat them because they can't keep
up with us offensively. They couldn't keep up with a
with a Texans team last night that had their quarterback
fumble five times and throw a pick. You couldn't keep
up with that kind of a team where they had
two defensive touchdowns. You couldn't put enough points on the
board offensively. You needed something new. Great, you know, big
I understand the day for both sides, better day for
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the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, come down to it. It's that difficult decision that
you make. And we talked about it a lot. We
talked about it during the course of the year. Right
when the hot seat, it was Harbaugh was him, it
was dom Win. It was back and forth. And now
they're both out, uh, and we get new blood and
end of an era in the NFL. Now it's all
nothing but short tenured coaches outside of the Andy Reid
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out there, and who knows how long he sticks around.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
At this point, he think about the AFC nord. Zach
Taylor's now the last guy stands. He's the only coach
there's only forget about coach of the longest tenure. He's
the only he just defeated the Kurgan. He's the only
You want to play a game tomorrow if you're the Bengals,
because the other teams don't have that coach.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
At least we have a head goat. Yeah, but the
other team still have better defenses. But okay, so then.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You have a quarterback that doesn't want to play with you. Okay,
so the Bengal if you played a game tomorrow, the
Bengals the way they are now versus the other teams
without a head coach, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Aaron Rodgers could draw plays in the dirt against the
Bengals defense.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, it can't be you go lung, so you can't
throw the ball more than one point five areas well,
and that's okay. He goes short, I'll throw it to you.
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
They have no pass rush, so you got plenty of
opportunity and he's probably not gonna get hit in the head.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That leads to a touchdown that I think.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
We were the only people to actually raise our hand
and say, what the house going on here? Because the
final score got out of sorts. But for Tomlin and
the Steelers, one of the difficult parts of it all is,
and we've quoted it oftentimes, we go back to the
lyrical genius of the song Helter skelter. When I get
to the bottom, I get back to the top of
the slide where I stop and I turn and I
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go for a run. You've never bottomed out, You've never
had that, all right, go get that next quarterback. Okay,
Mason Rudolph or whatever. You drafted guys, but they weren't
guys that were projected to be go to franchise. I
hate the term load, the term generational guys. You haven't
been in a position to go anywhere near that for
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years because you're right on the fringe of the playoffs
or just inside it. Right, So you're drafting middle first
round or worse every year. Right now, you're defensive heavy.
Now you're starting to age out and you'll get away
from some of these contracts fairly fast. But that's the
the other dirty little secret to all of this is
that you've never had the opportunity for a full organizational reset.
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Even as you go into twenty twenty six, you're not there.
And if you look at the quarterback market, what the
hell's there that has you excited? Yeah, you get your
choice of Kyler Murray or Tua that you have to
go give up assets for. Yeah, let me get on
board that, or or at least if you identical, because look,
the Steelers do a good job identifying talent. If you
identify someone that, hey, we think Ty Simpson is our guy,
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we think garrettnus Meyer's our guy, you identify taking a
quarterback of the future in the first couple of rounds. Sure,
but but it's the point of you know, we we
go in, we get that guy that might be that
top of the line starter. Say what you will about
Ben Roethlisberger, there was a long period of time where
he was in that you know, if we did the
four horsemen kind of thing, that he's still playing meaningful
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football and he was tough enough to drag down that
he was gonna make a play on you. He didn't
have to like it, he didn't have to love it.
They had a good ground game here. You've got enough
to be dangerous on any given Sunday, but also less
of an offense to where Arthur Smith you were hamstrung. Right,
they still played one more game than George Pickens and company.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Just so you know.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, so in the end the Steelers can still say
we won. Uh sure, sure they can't. Yeah, because George Pickens.
There's no guarantee he's staying in Dallas either.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You know. But just think if you had the George
Pickens from this year in Dallas this year, Yahn Pittsburgh,
if George Picketts wanted to be that guy, he would
have been there.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
The one thing you got to get by Tom with
credit for is he put up and condoned or maybe
even cajoled some of that that level of lunacy with
the wide receiver and running back position until it was
no longer required for their continued support of Steelers athletics
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and move them on. But it's always tough in these
circumstances because you can't say he did a bad job
like most of these other jobs. You guys get bounced,
you're like, hey, it's gone, it's just it's just stay.
You're just running in place. And it's only appropriate. And
we talked about it yesterday, right, tying our besting Marvin
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Lewis in terms of most consecutive oustings in the first
round of a first of a playoff run, because Marvin
Lewis was the same thing. Took the bangles from the
dregs and got them to the where they were stable,
but they never got over, so eventually got to move
a with Mike Tomblin. You're just running in place at
this point. You're not even running up that hill.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Right and now here. Don't break, don't stop stop, were
not play.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I know?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
He said nothing. Harmon said, nothing that you need to
worry about. Plateaued and wait wait, take that and play
that one back. Harmon said, nothing you need to worry about. Uh. Sure,
but here's the thing about Tomlin. Right to go from
from the Steelers to Tomlin, Right, great day for Tomlin
and a great day for the Steelers for Tomlin. Yes,
he's a terrific coach. However, whatever winds up this year,
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maybe it's a couple of years. He's doing television already.
Andrew Marshan is a big business reporter, a sports business reporter,
said he's gonna have his pick of different networks, and
Fox maybe would be in the lead for Tomlin service,
He's he get a multimillion dollar offer to do TV.
Is he gonna jump right back into be a coach now?
Maybe not. I would think Tomlin after this is gonna
wait out and pick the job he wants. More in
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twenty twenty seven, that seems more because right now it's like, Okay, suddenly,
is Tomlin gonna be in the list in New York?
Does he want to go to Atlanta? I mean it's
it's late in the game for him for this year,
but a year of because he's still young, a year
off to go wait and come back and do it.
But this is the thing, like, like I approach Mike
Tomlin like i'd approach and I would have approached interviewing
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Belichick for a job when he was leaving the pay
when he when he left the Patriots and they decided
he was he was out. I would say, listen, if
we're going to give you this job, you need to
run this team with a modern day style of coaching.
And I don't mean that you need to change who
you are, but this is the type of team that's
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going to win, and we need a team that is
dynamic offensively, that can throw the football up and down
the field, like, this is how we're gonna win. You
tried it your way and it didn't win. Right. You
tried the last year's with Roethlisberger when he had no
air yards at every every ball to Deontay Johnson was
two yards past the line of scrimmage looking for yak, Like,
you can't run the if you think if you're gonna
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run the team that way, great, Hey, awesome to meet you.
It's great, but we're gonna go someplace else. Like, he's
got to understand that he's got to grow and the
next head coaching job doesn't have to be his philosophy.
But you know what, Yes, we'll do it. I have
an offense coidator in mind, who's gonna come in. We're
gonna light up the scoreboard and do all kinds of things,
because that's how that's what's gonna get him another job
doing this the last ten years. Hey, it's great, it's
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what he did. We like him, but man, we don't.
We don't want that kind of offense here. That doesn't
sell tickets, doesn't excite the fan base, doesn't do anything.
We guaranteed to win. This is a different era in
the NFL, and what we've seen from Tomlin in the
last ten plus years is that his philosophy as the
NFL has passed him by. And so if he go,
if you change, you tell me you change, and I
believe you, then okay we can do something here and
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you come in to be our coach. But if you
say I know what wins and this is how to win,
then I'll say, Okay, we're gonna go someplace else.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Just go someplace where you have the starter kit that
includes a serviceable quarterback, which out of those eight teams,
those are pretty rare. You'd been looking squarely at the
New York foot Fall Giants, and even then you got
to make sure Jackson Dart isn't in the tent right now.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, the people who are allowed to see him in
the tent, yeah they're not. Everybody's allowed to go in
the tent. And same is he in there? Fake? Is
he in there? Scato? Can you go in there and
see if he's.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
By the way, he and late in this process because
everybody's been playing, waiting around, playing hungry, hungry hippos to
get past that first round exit out bout a fresca exit,
swollen Dome, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon's day, Why it's good
for the Steelers, What Tomlin needs to change?
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Mike and I love putting this content out for you
every single night. So we talked about the Tomlin situation
Mike Tomlin, who resigned as head coach of the Steelers
today after nineteen years. Likely, I'm in theory he will
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take a year off, probably do some TV, and then
pick his job next year. Yeah, but he said he
wouldn't go to the dark side. That's what he called
the media. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Bill Belichick went to
the media. That happened. Sterling Sharp went to the media. Everybody, Oh,
the media is evil, the media is Oh you know,
I'm a mean Sterling Sharp wouldn't talk to anybody his
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entire NFL career of fame for a long time, wouldn't
talk to anyone. And then at the end, Oh you know,
I'm on TV. I'm gonna talk one of those guys
all those years ago that I would try to argue with.
People say, watched him as a packer.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He was fantastic when he hated everybody. Yeah, yeah, Reggie Jackson,
I mean, keep on going.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm never gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Hey, sure, sure, Oh, Randy john I think he said
Randy Jackson for a second, he's always been on TV. Look, dog,
look dog. I don't want to be the head coach
of the of any team in the NFL. I want
to sit here and tell Simon Cowley stupid. That's all
I want to do. Uh so, yeah, I mean everybody says,
Doc said, yeah, okay, Oh, here's millions of dollars to
go sit and look. Obviously, Fox would probably be the
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favorite because he knows Jay Glazer for a long time. Right,
Jay's talked to us a lot a couple of times
where Tomlin's Tomlin Sun was at his house when Jay's
doing it. Hey, I'm having a party here, got a
bunch of people here. Tom So that seemingly would be
the leader. You go and do TV. I'm sure it's
a Sean Payton kind of timeline where I go for
a year, the Steelers retain his rights, they will trade
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him to a team uh in a year, and they'll
recoup some sort of draft stock for him.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It's funny, right because last week we were talking about
no Harbaugh and as he leaves again no no, no, no, no,
no no, He's make it very clear.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
We got to it.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Have the fifty five million dollars that are still there.
They owe him that money or you'll have to pay
against it very much here with the no no, the
Steelers have Mike tom Win's right, Yeah, this is not
a They're not finished at all here in this So
I love those little details as opposed to all these
other coaching displacements where he's like, yeah, no, we never
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want to see that guy again.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I mean then look, obviously, would he get a head
coaching gig in this cycle if he jumped in. Sure? However,
The Giants seemed to be pretty far down the road
with John Harbough and Kevin Stefanski. Right what you saw
Jackson Dart in the sideline last weekend saying Harvarsterfanski. It's like,
oh okay, someone asked him, Hey, what's going on? You
read him saying Harvarsterfanski. So that's the number one opening.
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The Falcons also is a pretty good opening. But Tomlin
needs something big market, right, you know? Is he really
gonna go from Pittsburgh to the Falcons? So I kind
of feel like it's the Giants or bust for Tomlin.
And because they're so far downroad, these other couple of guys, Yeah,
he's gonna wait a here because honestly, I can't recommend
going to Tennessee or Arizona or the Raiders. I can't
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recommend any of those jobs.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
But that's the thing when you look around, and this
is where we had our Dante More conversation, it kind
of applies here. Guess who's still gonna be in the
coaching cycle The next time you're looking for jobs, it's
gonna be most of these same spot.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
If I don't take the Raiders' job this year, it'll
be open again next year, and I can take it
if I want, either one or two years down the line,
it'll come back open again. I mean, well, you talk
about coaching openings, there's a couple, right, because even though
there's fives, like can you you can't recommend any of
those places.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, I mean I look at Atlanta right where you've
got a defense front seven's pretty good. H You're in
a division you can go win, but you still have
the same.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Question, who the hell is your quarterback? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Right, you get Bijon, you got Pits if he stays,
and you got Drake London, so you got some building blocks.
Defensive line wasn't awful, but again that that division is gettable,
right and before the thing is before we get to Tomlin,
like this is where you know different point. Mike Florio
had to report on Pro Football Talk earlier today that
potentially the Giants have already made a big offer to
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John Harbaugh in the twenty million dollar range because that
story leaked this week and that he wants control over
the roster and twenty million dollars a year. Now, the
money thing is okay because it's free money twenty day
it's not well, Also, it's not part of the salary cap.
It's our part of it's an owner can pay. You
could pay twenty million dollars for a great head coach.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Eventually, the NFL is going to start paying their head
coaches like colleges are. They're gonna understand that you have
a really good one, you got to do everything you
can to keep them and not get coached by another
team or not figure that out. So it's going to
be a case of hey, twenty million dollars suddenly. Oh man,
remember we would get great coaches for seven million dollars
a year, eight million dollars year. Boy, that was great.
Now it's gonna be coaches are going to get even
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more money. They're gonna get more with their worth. So
those guys are gonna get the money. It's not again
if you have to worry about salary cap or some
kind of of but you don't, so it's it's fine.
But overall, the fit for John Harbaugh is way better
in Atlanta than it is in New York. New York
is New York is the best job. Clearly New York
is the best job. However, the the chance of success
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is way better from in Atlanta because as you said,
the division is terrible. I mean, it's not the AFC North,
which is absolutely terrible, and only as one head coach
right now, Wade Joe Burrow says, hey, I want to trade.
They're gonna say, hey, we're canceling the AFC. You want it,
you want us to fire the coach. We're canceling the
AFC North. Nobody wants to any of these teams. Joe
Burrow wants out, there's nobody we care. We're canceling the
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AFC North and we're gonna let Lamar Jackson go to auction,
so uh, just go ahead, bid whatever you think you
want for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
We're gonna get rid of that division entirely. But this
is a division that's terrible. That what this team is,
they have a lot of young talent, and what they
do is they need a situation where you need an
adult in the room that can, that has the cachet
to handle what's happening with the question a quarterback between
Pennix and Kirk Cousins figuring that out, how that's gonna
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work this year, getting the most out of Michael Pennock Junior,
who has not been great right, figure out how to
get the most out of an offense when it's revolving
around Bajon Robinson's the best running back in the NFL.
Can you get the most out of Drake London? Do
you want to extend Kyle Pitts? Can you make Kyle
Pitts finally after five years into the guy we thought
he was coming out of college. These are all things
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that a guy with cashe needs to come in right.
Because Raheem Morris did a pretty good job there, but
in the end, his coaching acumen is not. You know,
with all those young players, he never could get them
together right now. There's other situations where if you're looking
to start things over again, you want to start like
Raheem Morris is your guy, right to go in and say, hey,
we need a guy to get us from A to B.
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Raheem Morris is that guy? Now B two C. That's
a different thing. So John Harbaugh having the cache, who's
not gonna listen to him when he walks into Atlanta
and says, look, this is what do you have a
lot of young talent. You gotta harness and get on
the same page. Atlanta is has too much talent to
beat the Bills and lose to the Jets, right Like,
I mean, this is this is the type of season
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they had, or this this is Atlanta right like, he
could have won the division if they had just beaten
the Jets. Right. So this is where you need someone
coming in that's got that that that image and the
optic of what he says we're gonna go do, right
Like like the big saying about Bill Parcells, I forget.
One of his players who signed with him in free
agency says, you know he he's the type of coach
that tells you, you know, what's your favorite food? And
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I say cheese, And Parcel says, there's cheese on top
of that mountain, go get it. And I run up
that mount for him to go get that cheese. Right Like,
if you tell me there's good cheese top, I will run.
You would run up that hill, yeah, I mean, depending
on how big of a hill it is, because I
don't want to run too much. Run well, I could
run now, No, I write with you, my new body,
Now I could run a little bit. Did you up
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that hill a little bit? Now? But like you know,
that's the type of coach that horrible. He's won the
Super Bowl. He is he is, He's an offense. He's
crafted the team that's competitive every year, that stays in it.
And yeah, did his time run the course after eighteen years?
You have, of course at this But between him and Stefanski, like,
Okay Stefanski, I feel like he's a better fit for
the Giants because he's a quarterback guru. He's the guy
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that's I've won and competed in Cleveland, which was a
train wreck with all kinds. I don't care who you
gave me a quarterback. We still went out there and
we either got to the playoffs or my team didn't quit,
or I got the quarterback to play well, whether it
was Shador Sanders or whether it was Joe Flakko off
his couch and and Stefanski going into New York. That's
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what Jackson Dart needs. This is a Jackson Dart driven
team with all the weapons. You got to make sure
you are unlocking him. And Stefanski is much more of
a quarterback guy than John Harbaugh is. So that's why
I feel like the Fits, even though the Giants are
going for John Harbaugh, I feel like the Fits are
kind of opposite, where Stefanski's a much better fit in
New York and Harball is a better fit in atlant Yeah,
I would agree with you.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Uh. You know, in the quarterback position, it's always just
been kind of set it and forget it for Harbaugh
all those years. So that's something to navigate. We know
that Kirk Cousins restructured his deals, so the question there
and how quickly in the rehab process will Penix be ready?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
How available is he?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Like? You still got to navigate that, right because for
John Harbaugh, he had Flacco and goes straight into Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
That's pretty good run. Not many teams have been able
to do that, right.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
We always cite what you did in Green Bay, going
from Farv to Rogers into what Jordan love is and
you can decide how much you love or hate him
and Lafleur while you're at it. But for John Harbaugh
down down in Atlanta, all of that fits to his
personality and the way he's run that squad for a
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load these many years. For Stefanski, to your point, he's
gotten the best out of a hodge podge of quarterbacks.
And you're also looking at coming into a pretty good
defense and being in Cleveland, the poison pens have been
out right, there's no positivity there. It lasts about three
weeks and then it blows off like you know whatever,
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in the next storm. It's that when when Cleveland was
playing well, like even in the Coach of the Year season,
it was always at arms length, like always looking to
find waiting for the factory of sadness to show its face,
and oftentimes it did and he finds himself and the
odd man out. Even though Barry was the guy that
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saddled everything with the contract, you know, at Haslam's urging,
going back to the Deshaun Watson stuff that ham strung
them quite often when it came to adding more players
in Atlanta. The one thing, though, you still do need
to figure out whether you're gonna franchise Kyle Pitts or
keep him around or move away from him. But that's
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that's the minute of it for Stefanski in New York again,
you know the noise, You've got a pretty good defense
that's already installed. You got a division that's very uncertain.
We'll get into what Philadelphia did today, but the the
arms length they've got, Nick Sirianni, you look at Dallas.
They can't get out of their own way, all right,
And then Washington had that surge for a year and
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and drifted right back down. Now, I'd be remiss if
I didn't point out the fact that right now, your.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Guy, Zach Taylor, my guy? Why is it my guy?
Why is my guy? Because he's the last man stand
He's the only he's everybody's guy. He's the Highland. He
can't just be my He's every He's the only guy
in that division. He is like set bladder. I am
the president of everybody. I am that of everybody. Does
he get a prize for surviving everybody else? I'm the
head coach of the NFC North, which team the entire division?
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I run everything.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
But right now, Zach Taylor is tied for the fifth
longest tenure of a head coach in the National Football League. Yeah,
you got Andy Reid McVeigh, Shanahan McDermott, and then you've
got Zach Taylor and Matt Lafleur at seven years.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Everybody else has been cycled out repeated Well, remember Zach
Taylor has been to a Super Bowl, so remember he
does have that resume. It's okay, Yeah, you know he's
got you only get to trade on that for so
many Why he's the only one left in the Hey,
how long? How many? How much said is left in
the hour glass?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Man?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Now wait a minute, Frostburg, you know where he's going.
You have this information here? Yeah, so everything you guys
just said about John Harbaugh is irrelevant. Okay, okay, wow, okay,
I want to hear this. Go ahead. I'm so sure
that we actually have audio of his press are already
we do?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh boy?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, wow, this is now, this is this is audio.
You're only gonna hear here about sports radio, all right
with John Harbaugh arriving at his Steelers press conference. Okay,
and live a little spray? Can sure? I was I
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was really, I was really, I was honest. I was
expecting John Cena's music retired. How about Raven's head coach
Steve Ravens owner Seashotti today saying, uh yeah, we would
hire Tomlin if they if they hire uh they if
they hire Harbor in Pittsburgh? Yeah why not?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
No, it was it was fun. Yeah. No, you want
to talk paint a beard? Oh sure?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, grow a beard and sure,
sure and then you have the wolf pack behind.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yes, you got your factions.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Now this works.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I just come on in if you will. It's John Harba.
So there's your fits for Harbor and Stefanski. Time now
to find out what's trending. From a guy who's got
a lot in common with Kevin Stefanski. They both have
a beard. It's Steve the Sega. Yeah, yeah, same, checks
keep coming, but his is longer than yours. Though it
is longer than yours.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
My tenure is longer.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Does that count? Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's good.
That's true. Yeah. If you didn't hear.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Head coach Mike Tomlin did step down from the steel
after nineteen seasons. Today, he still has two years left
on ice contracts, so the team retains his rights. He
never had a losing season, but lost his last seven
playoff games, the last five by double digits, including last night.
The Eagles removed Kevin Patullo as offensive coordinator this past offseason.
He was promoted to replace Kellen Moore. Philadelphia's offense just
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led the league in three and outs this past season.
The Chargers fired offensive coordinator Greg Roman and offensive line
coach Mike Devlin, with all the injuries. The Chargers used
twenty nine different offensive line combinations this past year, and
Justin Herbert was hit more than any other quarterback. Roman
had been an assistant for Harbaugh at Stanford and with
the forty nine Ers. Also, Carolina will pick up the
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fifth year option on quarterback Bryce Young's contract for twenty
twenty seven. The Ravens want to renegotiate the contract of
quarterback Lamar Jackson by March to lower his cap number.
NFL free agency starts in March, and Buffalo wide receiver
Terrell Shavers has a torn acl asked as wide receiver
Gabe Davis had. Wide receiver Joshua Palmer is on IR forum.
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Curtis Samuel returned to practice today. Notre Dame head coach
Marcus Freeman will hold a news conference on Wednesday. ESPN
said he is not expected to leave for an NFL job.
There are currently nine head coach openings in the pros.
Oregon tight end Kenya and Sadik declared for the NFL draft,
Ohio State tight end Max Claire declared for the draft,
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and Yes, college football's national title games still some days away. Monday,
Indiana at Miami. The Diamondbacks acquired third baseman Nolan Aeronado
and cash from Saint Louis. Anthony Davis and the Mavericks
will be reevaluated in six weeks after his second opinion.
Surgery is not required on his left hand. Laker's about
to start up at home against Atlanta. They were listed
(31:45):
as questionable, but they're both playing. Lebron James and Luka Donzig.
Still half hour away from tip of Golden State's home
game against Portland. The other games are finals wins for
Minnesota and Houston, wins for Denver and Miami. That Minnesota
win was one thirty nine to one oh six at Milwaukee.
They shot sixty percent from the floor and dominated even
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though Anthony Edwards was out tonight with a foot injury.
In college basketball, right now at Kansas, Jayhawks lead number
two Iowa State sixty five forty four, eight and a
half minutes to go. In that game, twenty fourth ranked
Tennessee won at overtime against Texas A and m yukon edge.
Seaton Hall and a top twenty matchup went to Virginia
(32:26):
at Louisville seventy nine seventy in the NHL win number
eleven in a row for Tampa Bay a shootout victory
two one at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Again, wait and
tip off. If the Lakers lose to the Hawks tonight, Yeah,
that's now suddenly it went from last night. Hey, the
Lakers have problems too, woo, Lakers have problems. Dominique might
go off, he might, Yeah, spud Web, I mean that that,
you know, the the the alley oop game between the
two of them is off.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The hunk Trey Young's not there anymore now walking through
that door. These I mean, look, Luke and Lebron both
gonna play. But I have a question for you. I
got an answer, all right, Bob, So Steve said, Marcus
Freeman's gonna have a press conference so owing to that
nWo music we had. Is he challenging the high school
wrestling coach that opposed his son? Is he is he
(33:17):
challenging into a cage man?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Or so too soon? I'm whoa, Let's go come on now.
We got more football on the way. But coming up next,
we got the play of the day and a huge
injury in the NBA. We break it down for you
next right here, Jason to Mike. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Fox Sports Radio, Mary Max playing one of my favorite
bands of all time. I'm getting there. You know how
mean times I listen to this album growing up, like this,
the La Guns but Tight for Destruction and Faster pussy
Cat like I wore those albums out eighty seven eighty eight,
(34:07):
Like hey, Mike Tomlin the Offense back in eighty seven,
That's where I was listening to La Guns. I don't
know this album Electric Gypsy. This is the song oh
first La Well because Tracy Gunns, Yeah, an original guitarist
of Guns N' Roses before. Boy, that's a bad career move,
Blanke you Axel, I'm gonna go start my own band.
Oh wow, damn that at that point? What are you
(34:28):
gonna do? My uh My wife actually was flying back
to Michigan to visit her family this two three years ago,
and she calls me and she says, you're not gonna
believe who I'm in the airport with. I said, what
She goes I'm here with I think I'm pretty sure
I'm here with La Guns. I said, what she was,
I'm here with La Guns. I go, are you kidding me?
(34:49):
She goes yes, they're all like flying to like Buffalo
to do a gig or something like that or I
don't know. I was like, you got to get a picture. Yeah,
cause I'm pretty sure because she knows because La Guns
one of my bands, Ham Flyes private. Uh yeah, I
wish no this was La Guns. If this was the eighties,
she'd be flying. This is twenty twenty two and La
Guns is probably flying commercial And uh, I was like,
(35:10):
gotta get a picture. So she gets a pictures go, yes,
that's Mick crips, that's it. Oh my god, you gotta
you could talking with La Guns And I said how
was it? And she goes ah. They said they were going, said,
my husband is the biggest fan. Can I please get
a picture? He listens to you guys listening all the
way back since in the eighties. They said yeah, sure,
So they all pose. They go, where are you aheaded?
They go, We're going to do a concert. And one
of them said not happy about it, like if like
(35:33):
if parent they got booked in the last minute. Yeah,
we'll go do a concert somewhere. Okay, gonna clear.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
To the airport.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Smile, Yeah, this person who you were enjoy it? Yeah,
I mean you got LA Guns getting recognized in the airport.
Like I'm like, okay, man, I want to talk to
that guy. What is it about the gig that you're
not happy? Oh, dude, I'll play some LA Guns for you. Man,
you can go. Oh my goodness, Yeah, LA Guns is great.
Then some big big hits in the nineties, Kiss My Love, Goodbye,
Ballad of Jane, the Ballot for so Uh. Anyway from
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the La Guns and back again Mary mcnow playing all
music from nineteen eighty seven because of the Mike Tomlin
line of the offense that he runs being from nineteen
eighty seven. It's time now for the play of the night.
And boy, when you're able to double up another guy?
When when when Wemby doubles up your guy, Mike Harmon, guy,
you get to be the play of the night.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Now here we go.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
The matchup we've been looking forward to is the web
Yama against harm Grend.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Got a history between the two.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Webby goes light to work.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh you're a weapon, YadA starting now with a bang.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Around it wemby your guy chet home Chet wemby posting
chet Yeah, and who won the war? Well, no, that's true.
That is true. Yeah, but it's true.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
But getting post horizon and I love the fact that
there's some u some hatred there, there's some some angst
and some anger and and that goes out on the court.
The fact that this is like the forty seventh time
they're matching up, yeah, before the end of January is
a problem.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
No, it's a uh, it's a hey, they're trying to
make this rival it's kind of make this rivalry happen. Man,
watch this. We can't watch this on Peacock. We can't
make a d and Luca happen. So, uh, you know,
we gotta do something here. Uh look the other big
NBA story. I'll have more in this developing stories. The
night goes on. Anthony Davis is now out for the
season after a hand injury that he suffered the other
(37:28):
day just just knocking his hand in, you know, trying
to trying to break up a play.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Uh, he is.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
His hand injury is gonna keep out for the season. However,
potentially could return in the playoffs. Now the Mavericks are
not going to the playoffs, you have to worry about that.
But this is why the Mavericks are continuing to talk
about trading him because his potential return for the playoffs,
he could help a team. So even though the injury here,
he's out for the year, A D says no, AD
(37:56):
says no, He's okay, And it looked like a pretty
innocuous injury, like I'm just banging my against your jersey
and oh man, I'm out now. You know, there's two
things about this is One is that I can't trade
for a D because I can't hold my breath every
time he gets on the court. I can't do it. Man.
I thought, hey, they got the best trade they could
for Luca with a D. But now he can't even
stand in the court. Over a year with Dallas, he
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get when he plays, he's still great, But I can't
hold my breath. You can't hold your breath for a
guy you count on so much. So I know they
want to deal him, and I know somebody's gonna jump
in and eventually feel you know, hey, I'm getting a
little antsy here. We need something else. Hey, let's go
in for a d Maybe it's the next somebody's gonna
do it. But I can't do it because he's he's
too big an acquisition to be someone that well, I
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know I'm not gonna have him for the playoff runt.
I know he's just gonna get hurt. I can't count
on him. Well, I wouldn't have traded for him before then.
I mean last year. You can make the argument, all right,
here's what we need to do. This situation in Dallas
is untenable. Go find some assets, make him run, and
see what you can put together. You come back and
you've got some injury long hint, injury history on the
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veterans on your squad to try to get yourself back
to whole around Cooper flag. And clearly has it worked.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
And now, I mean he's been in and out of
the lineup much of the year and now you don't
even know if he's available at all until next fall. No,
I mean it's it's hey, yeah, long ago. I mean, look,
it goes back to his operation shutdown all those years
ago when he wanted to go to the Lakers. He
was raised the eyebrow like all right, eye opening got
what he wanted, played well and had big runs in
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Los Angeles, but you're at the point where it's a
declining asset and for what you have to do to
match money forget about it.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, and this is what makes it even tougher for
Mavericks because not only Okay, you're gonna trade him, but
how hard it is because Aad is a guy that
they have to trade, right, because it hasn't worked. It's
been a year, and he's a daily reminder to the team,
the fan base, the end that they traded Luca and
(40:02):
everybody's still mad. Right, you tried to make it work
for year. He can't stay healthy, So you gotta move
on from him because he again, he's a walking reminder
of the Luca trade, So move on. You're building around
Cooper flag trade, Anthony Davis, Right, I get that, But
how are you going to How is the team gonna
make the money work and give up assets whatever they
are for Ad for a guy that baby can play
this year maybe maybe he's healthy. I mean, you are
(40:24):
absolutely stuck. If you're the Map. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
The report that he's gotta have surgery. You'all better stop
listening to these lies. On these apps like that, on
these apps.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
That calling.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Where I do I do Fantasy on Sleeper? The Sleeper
app is lying, yeah, we got more NBA on the way.
But straight ahead we get back into the biggest NFL
story that I keep it here. Jason and Mike Fox