July 11, 2023 • 36 mins
Jason Smith and Aaron Torres get you all caught up on the HR Derby. The guys tell explain why the MLB All-Star festivities are superior to the NBA’s. And longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora says NO WAY to Andrew Luck being a Hall Of Famer!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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as promised at I said, ay, the Mets had not lost,
but since you could do in the show, great and
obviously you are the good luck charm because what happened
we finished our show Friday night, the Mets in one.
What happened? They lose Saturday, they lose Sunday. So now
you're back, We're gonna figure something out here. Because as
long as we obviously are the key to the whole
Mets thing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You told me that as long as they won Monday
through Friday, I'm back in.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So you know, no, I'm talking about expanding. I'm talking
about expanding now because obviously you're even a bigger part
of this than I thought. Okay, yeah, yeah, you're bigger. Yeah.
This is like when you find out the plot in
the movie goes bigger than you thought it was. Hey,
this goes bigger than the chief of police. This goes
all the way up to the Senate. Right, that's this
part where you think, okay, wait, this goes a little
bit bigger because clearly it's not just about this is
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when he is here during the week and it's working, okay,
and now on the weekends when you weren't there, Boom,
look what happened. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I have to say this, Okay. I like Mike Harmon
a lot. It's clear that I have some power that
I didn't even realize I have, because when I'm in
the Mets can't lose, and Harmon leaves for seventy two
hours in his whole football program, the one team that
I know Harmon loves going completely falls up part. So
I didn't know that I had this much power. We'll
see what happens. You know, I don't know if you
(02:04):
want to start booking your Super Bowl tickets for the
Jets yet. I mean, assuming you keep me in, we'll see,
We'll see if you keep your word.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, let's Eyracuse. Wait wait, now, let's see. You need
to see if you extend past the Mets and into
the Jets. I mean, you may just just be a
Mets thing, you know. I don't know. I mean you
could be you could be in everything thing, but you
could just be a Met.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Never want to just be a Mets thing. Eric Syracuse,
I mean, do I have to now put am I?
Do I have to guarantee Syracuse a Final four spot?
I mean, how does this all work? I'm confed.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, if you can do that, and well, okay, let's
let let's just guarantee that as well. Just guarantee, just
guaranty we're gonna get Mellow's kid, and that's gonna work,
and then Adrian Autry is taking us to the Final four.
That's how it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's what Torres says.
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the Syracuse in the final four. I'm went pretty good
so far. The Jets is big, though, Let's see if
you still have that Jets power.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And poor Harmon's Northwestern Wildcats. So I'm sure we'll talk
about at some point, by the way, if Harmon needs
to call in and do a little therapy session. Yeah,
I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh I can't. I can't do it. Rosberg just throwing
the gauntlet down.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna step aside.
I mean, his name is still on the show, but
like he says, still it's.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Still on the You're like, you're like Crypto dot com, Hey,
can we get those letters of Staples down. We gotta
put the crypto. Just put those Staples letters someplace. Just
Crypto put the crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So you're saying Harmon is Crypto dot com and I'm Staples.
I'm I'm more like, I guess I'm what's next, I'm
not Staples.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah no, no, no, you bored me. You're you're more
You're more crypto. Yeah no, no, you're definitely more crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Who wanted Harmon be crypto because the name is still
on the building, but he but they're no longer there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah. Oh wow. See I I can't argue with logic.
That's very difficult. All right, all right, well let's learn
they are there though. Let's it is it is? Well,
look what's crypto dot com goes belly up. They're just
gonna bring those letters back out and put them back
on it. It's Staple Center again. But they're not paying us.
Money doesn't matter at Staple Center. But they're not paid,
doesn't matter. It's Staple Center. Sound's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I guess. So yeah, I don't know. Poor Armin is
the That's the theme of the early part of the show.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So here we are right now, getting close to the
finals of the home run derby Randy Rose. Arena is
in thirty five home runs. In the semifinals, he could
potentially take on Julio Rodriguez, who is getting set to
battle for his spot in the finals. And here's the thing.
He's got to beat vlad Guerrero Junior forty one home
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runs in the first round of the Home Run Derby.
He is Pete Alonzo's kryptonite. Pete A. Lonzo is not
lost to anybody in the Home Run Derby except for
Julio Rodriguez. And now here's Jay rod on his way
potentially to the finals in Seattle. G What a surprise.
The guy from the hometown team is gonna end up
in the finals in the Home Run Derby.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Can I ask you a random question? And Jason, I'm
just throwing this against the wall. Why has MLB seemingly
figured out a way to make Home Run Derby still
awesome every single year? Yet the Dunk Contest is essentially unwatchable?
And I know it was a little bit better this
year with Mac McClung, But it's like, it's just interesting,
Like the Home Run Derby is as awesome as ever.
The ratings are through the roof. Everybody loves it. You know,
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obviously we're watching Rodriguez in the in the studio earlier.
It was fun to watch. It's just interesting how like
the two events have gone in I don't say completely
different directions because I don't know if the home run
Derby is as big as it was in the Ken
Griffey Junior Mark McGuire days, but it hasn't kind of
taken the step back the way that that the dunk
Contest has.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
No honestly, honestly, it's it's pretty easy. And if NBA
players cared a little bit more about the dunk Contest,
but clearly they don't because the stars don't do it.
You just said right here, Julio Rodriguez, who is one
of the big up and coming stars in all of
Major League Baseball? Is he the biggest star?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But is he a star? Is he big? Is he
up and coming? Yeah? You talked about Mac mcclunk, right.
I mean, who's gonna nobody tunes into All Stars Saturday
Night anymore? Because who's the dunk contest. It's nobody that
anybody knows. It's nobody that even the average basketball fan knows, Like, wait,
what team is this guy on?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, but he dunk's great. Look at his highlights on YouTube.
Well that's great, That's what I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Do because wasn't even in the NBA when they when
they put him in the Dunk Contest for what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I don't even know. I don't know. I don't
know what to say to to the NBA. It's like, hey,
why won't your stars do it? Why are they are? They?
Are they that narcissistic that if they have a bad time,
if they dunk, they're gonna get made fun of. And
I don't want the video up of me. But you
look at it's the biggest stars. It's the biggest stars
in Major League Baseball who want to do it? Pete
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Alonso is a big star, right, Vlad Junior is a
big star. Jay Rod is a big star. Randy Roserta
is a big enough star as you can see in
Tampa Bay. So you have big names, and it's not
like you need all of the biggest of the big stars.
You don't need Bryce Harper and Mike Trout and Otie
in all the home run there. You don't need them all.
But you need some kind of big names that people
know right like you. You don't need to say, hey,
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it's gotta be honest. And Lebron and and and and
Jason Tatum in the slam Dunk contest. But if it
was Jalen Brown in the slam Dunk contest. That's that's
pretty cool. If it was James Harden the slam, like
if he could unk. Sorry, I gotta bring up something
you can do. But if it was, if it was
if it was stars that could that that you'd like
to see in the slam dunk contest, Okay, great, like
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that that would be said. People would tune in because
they want to see what the stars do. It's really simple,
you know that. This is why we watched the home
run derby and why All Stars Saturday Night is just yeah, okay, great,
we saw some threes, we saw some dunks, all right,
that's awesome. Two things.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
One, you know, because of the time slot that I'm in,
I'm in this time slot on Saturdays, I have one.
I'm the only one that still watches All Star Saturday. Uh,
and it is pretty unwatchable. I was telling producer Danny
g he was in studio before he does a you know,
great job with Cavino and Rich. I was telling him
my theory on the dunk contest is and it's tonight's
MLB's night. But I said to him, I said, the
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dunk contest, they should make it like hard knocks. You
know how hard knocks. You're required. If the league asked you,
you have to do it. I don't know about you know,
Lebron at thirty eight, but I say, like your first
two to three years in the league, if the NBA
says you're in, you're in. Jaw, You're in. Everybody wants
to see you, your young rising star Zion. I don't
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care how big your shoe deal is and how bad
it's for your brand. If you don't win, you're in.
So I'll tell you what I think. I just saved
the dunk contest. I will save this awful n season
tournament later if you'll allow me to.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And I swear I didn't mean to make.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
This takeaway from Major League Baseball's spotlight right now, but
I was just thinking about it as I watch. It
is like the home run derby is always entertaining, it's
always fun, and the all the slim dunk contest never is.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You just killed You just killed everything. You just did everything.
You're like a weed killer in the backyard. All the
big weeds dandelion did get you killed them. You killed
them all. They got families.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Eron, they got family, She's got families. These basketball players, Yeah,
don't you know Zion's got a family common don't you
know that, right?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I mean I do.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I've seen his I've seen his girlfriend's tweets up,
up and down and left and right and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And look, the one thing you know about Zion, even
when he's not playing, he can dunk. Because that's the
one thing we do is we get videos of him
dunking like like a lunatic, right, like, oh, but he
still can't come play, But look at him, dunk boy,
he still can dunk. So I know he could do
that even if he can't play.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Single elimination game with the season on the line. Yeah, well,
I'll come back when Zion feels like Zion, I'll come back.
But you're dunking in the layup line before the game.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We don't need to do the Zion monologue tonight, but
I will tell you I'm so over that guy. Like,
just either either play or I don't need interviews with you.
I don't need like that because I was on air.
You know, you and Mike must have been traveling or something,
because I remember being on air with Arnie Spanier. I
think it was either the night before that game when
Zion did that press conference where he said Zion's not
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feeling like Zion, and I just remember being on and
being like, this guy is such a clown man. He's
such a clown and they should force him to do
the dunk on. So are you strictly over to the
on game, like on the court stuff or off the
court everything. I don't I don't need an update everyone
off the court stuff too. Actually that's proved. That's actually
pretty entertaining.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Do you not? Did you stop following Mariah Mills on Twitter?
Did you see if she jumped over to threads? Because
I that might threads. That might give me to sign
up for threads. I still have not signed up for
threads yet. That might get me to do it. Yeah,
I just you know, like like in and listen. I
understand NBA reporters have a job to do. But when
it's like when I get the the shams alert, Zion's
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still not ready for full five, Like, I don't need it.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I know he's not ready. I'm just gonna assume that
he's not playing until I see him, and then like
I just I couldn't care less about that. And then
you know, there's all sorts of reports about what he
relationship with the team. It's like, you're not good enough.
You haven't done enough to not have a relationship with
the team. Here's an idea. If the coach tells you something,
maybe you should do it. If the training staff tells
you to do do something, maybe you should do it.
So anyway, kind of over that. This all started with
(11:01):
the home run derby and now I'm just on a
zion red forgive me.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Twitter at how about a fresca Aaron and Aaron underscore
torres Jason Smith at in for Harmon tonight. Now from
the home run derby, we are getting close to the final.
Julio Rodriguez has just finished eighteen home runs and they're
in between rounds now and vlad Guerrero Junior needs more
than eighteen, needs nineteen to make it to the finals
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against the Rose Arena. Now here's what I'm hoping because
because this is what I did before the season, I
can never go to Sea I can't travel to Seattle
right now because before the season I said the Mariners
are going to the World Series and Jay Rod's going
to be the al MVP, And all the Mariners have
done so far is disappoint and show that Wait, there's
everybody else in the division, even the Angels may be
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better than us, and Julio Rodriguez has just been Okay,
So I am hoping this is a springboard for jay
Rod to win the AL MVP, because that can still happen.
Because can you still give Atani the MVP if he
ends up in the National League for the last two months.
I don't know. I'm just asking for a friend right now.
So I'm hoping that this is now what jay Rod
jumps on and he goes to win the AL MVP.
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Like I said before the season.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Uh yeah, I mean, I have no fundamental issue with that.
I mean, I'm just, you know, just thinking about across
the league. Yeah, obviously, like you said, the Mariners are struggling.
They're in third place right now. Did you know, obviously,
Otani I still think is the front runner. I know,
you think he'll be a Dodger before the time we're
done with this show.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Uh now, Dodger after this year, They're not gonna trade
him to the Dodgers. It's gonna be somebody else for
the last two months of the year, and then it'll
be the Dodgers. At the end of this year, like
that when MOOKI when they were shaking head like with
him and Mookie Bets were shaking hands in second base
the other night. Is hey, we'll see in a couple
of months. Like I think I actually read Mookie Betts
as I said, I'll see you in a couple of months,
And I think he actually passed on a piece of
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paper that he could sign that says, you know that
this could happen right here. So it's not they won't
trade him with the Dodgers now, but they will. But
that's where that's where he will likely end up in
the offseason.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's interesting. I mean that part isn't as interesting because
obviously that's a lot of the speculation. It'd be interesting
to see somebody trade for him without a guarantee of
keeping him this offseason.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
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for Harmon. Coming up next, we'll have more on the
Major League Baseball home run derby vlad Guerrero Junior getting
ready to hit. We just see Jay Rod getting told
Jay Rod's got his thirty second bonus. So we have
that to go before Vlad goes to hit so we'll
keep you updated there. But coming up next maybe the
(13:30):
most interesting Hall of Fame debate that I've heard this year.
We'll get into that coming up next. Keep it right here,
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more on the Major League Baseball home run derby coming
up in a couple of minutes, but set to have
some big NFL talk here, And you know, normally at
when we have Hall of Fame debates, I kind of
tune out because as so much so, as you know,
we let in a lot of players who are now
just really good, and you know, the Hall of very good,
and sometimes guys can play really well for four years
(15:29):
and get in, like Terrell Davis. But I gotta say
today the debate that was firing up social media, I
loved the Andrew Luck now five years removed the last
time he played in the NFL. Is Andrew Luck a
Hall of famer? This is a debate joining us now
in the hotline a man who now I know is
(15:50):
a switch hitting NFL insider for Odyssey and the Washington Post.
He is the ADLEI Rushman of insiders. It is Jason
locking Ford. What's happened?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Dude? Not a lot, not a lot more impressive than
hitting home runs from both sides of the plate in
the derby. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, too bad. You know, Lewis Robert was on
an absolute tear as well. You know, it's kind of
weird how they do this, and you know, you get
matched up with your seating and then that's that. You'd
think that maybe just let everybody go, you know what
I mean, and then see who I the highest totals
and then you know, the next for advance or whatever.
But yeah, that's pretty awesome for him to be there
with his dad and to be, you know, a kid
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from Portland, just down the road from Seattle in his
first All Star game and this whole family there and
his dad pitching to him. That's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So while all this is going on, I mean, you
have to be pretty happy there, because I got news
for you, man, Orioles. I don't know that there's a
scenario where I can't see the Orioles winning the ALE East.
And I know you're immersive. I mean, I look how
great a first half that the they did everything right
there plus run differential is by five hundred and everything
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they did best team in baseball. Look at where they are,
Look at what the we're outdown, and the Orioles.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Are right there, and they with them in the lost total.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, I can't. I can't see there being any
outcome other than Orioles win the ALE least.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
I appreciate that sentiment, and I hope you're right. But
I can can coct many doomsday scenarios or even near
doomsday scenarios in which they lose by at least a
half game. But no, the way I colcit and we
talk about this for four hours a day on my
radio show here in Potomom. Even when they were you
know whatever, thirteen and oh and thirty and five, I said,
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they ran away, but they didn't hide. And let's see
what this lead looks like Memorial Day, and let's see
what this lead looks like July the fourth, and the
Orioles have always been within earshot, you know. I think
it probably got up to maybe seven and a half
eight at one point, but never got to ten or
over ten. It's mostly been around between five and a
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half and seven. And then, you know, the Rays went
into this tailspin where they whatt three and seven in
their last ten. I think they've only won six of
their last twenty games, and the Orioles continued to play
consistent baseball. Orioles haven't been swept in the series since
Ddly Rutchman was called up May twenty first last year. So, yeah,
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they're a really good baseball team, and the Rays are
a really good baseball team. But the race pitching staff's
been decimated by injuries. Now and if this tiler glass
now thing is anything serious, we know what mcclanahan's already on.
The il Rasmus has been shut down for the year.
Springs has been shut down for the year. Nobody talks
about Shane Biz anymore. It's like he didn't exist, like
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at that Kidal when he was going to be a superstar.
Now maybe they trade for starting pitching, and Lord knows
that they create opportunities with their bullpen and how creative
they are utilizing their arms. And I'll never count them out.
But three or four guys in that lineup come back
to Earth now, Jose Siri, Tyler Walls, Manny Margo. I mean,
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there was point in time when everybody's ops was over
eight fifty and that's just not the case anymore. So yeah,
it'd be an interesting second half. I think the Orioles
could certainly win this division. But I look, I'm the
Rays have done some exceptional, exceptional stuff and they've got
a genius front office. So the trade deadline is gonna
be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
All right, Well, let's get into the speaking of fascinating,
because I just love this debate all day to day,
you know, and usually Hall of Dates are like, okay, yeah,
but I really loved a because here we are, now
five years since he's retired. Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Come on, man, this is just because it's July and
there's no deflate gate this year, and there's no bounty
gate this year, or there's no you know, there's no
Deshaun Watson waiting on us, you know, as a plan,
there's nothing going on. I mean, that's that. This is
that we were in the twelve to fifteen day stretch
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where possibly nothing happens in the NFL, and then what
veterans report around the twenty fifth, twenty six most places,
and away we go. There is no there's no debate here.
The Honky kunk man himself, Jim Mersey, would he even
try to make the case that Andrew luxA Hall of Famer?
I mean, how can you even like this isn't Sandy Kofax,
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you know what I mean? The guy came in, played
five or six years, was hurt a ton in the
last two or three. What are we talking about? Like
Hall of fame? He would even be on All Decade team.
How can this be a debate?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I mean, I would debate he was one of the best.
I mean, if he has to retire because of literal
injuries that don't allow him to play as opposed to
retiring on his own recognisance. You don't think there would
be a healthy conversation about it.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Jason, what's the signal sure moment of his career?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I mean he went to what four playoff appearances?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Okay, the comeback, the comeback win, the comeback win against
the Chiefs, that's probably it.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Other than that, no, because look, I'm with you, I
don't think he's a Hall of Famer. He's he's very
good and.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Apparently played into his second contract.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean, you know what he was great at. My
favorite ande luck was always the Cults are losing forty
one to ten in the third quarter, and then the
final score would be like forty five thirty one, and
he would end up with four touchdowns and three hundred
and fifty yards like but the look, but the game
was over. It was forty one to ten in the
third quarter, and he gets like three garbage touchdowns in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I think he's a hell of a player. I mean,
if you want to make an argument, you think he
was on possibly a potential Hall of Fame Marc, I
mean i'd say, well, probably still a little premature, but maybe.
I mean it's possible but no, I don't. I don't
know how. I just don't see it. I mean, I
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know I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You mentioned Jason being a few months away or a
few weeks, a few weeks away, a few days away
from training camp. You're opening up? Is there any like
every team has interesting stories, like what is the one
thing that you're looking forward to more than anything else?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I mean there's a few things. You know. There are
teams that took a big jump up last year, you know,
and can they This is not always a linear league.
In fact, it's often not so you know what, like
the Jacksonville Jaguars, Like do they pick up where they
left off? Or are there some you know, hiccups along
the way. Have they overestimated themselves in some areas? The
(22:49):
fact that they're playing in such a crappy division certainly helps.
I'll be looking at it's it's quarterback driven league, right,
and so we'll be looking at this rookie class and
they were under such a microscope and it's you know,
funny you know, or say comes out today, and I mean, look,
I think I think anthink Richardson really needs to play.
I mean, like, yeah, Gardan Minchell is a good quarterback,
(23:10):
but you know, I think Richardson needs to play, but
you know, hey, it's the coach's decision. This is coming
from a guy who literally made three quarterback changes last
year and fired a coach because he didn't think he
was playing the guy he wanted him, you know what
I mean, forced the coordinator out. Like, no, I'm pretty
sure Anthony richards is gonna be the opening day starter,
unless you know, he breaks his leg in the preseason. Like,
(23:31):
so sort of the arc of those kids, you know,
and how much are they playing early and how well
are they playing? You know that that's always something that
will will you know, people will want to follow, and
certainly I'll be keeping an eye on that. And then
like in the NFC, like, who's any good you know,
(23:52):
Like I don't know, like is there a team that
kind of does what the Eagles did last year, you know,
and gets off to this kind of start where you
have to start thinking, hey, maybe they're a little more
formidable than we thought. Maybe they're going to sprint faster
than some people who thought maybe they were ready, you know,
to speed walk, but they weren't ready to compete with
the elite of the elite like and maybe there isn't
(24:14):
that team in the NFC. Maybe that conference is just
a watered down mess, and maybe it is the Eagles
and everybody else. But you know, who's going to sort
of fill that gap? And then the Green Bay thing?
I mean, look, we would wait forever to see what
Jordan Love is, you know. And I think it's gonna
be a pox on both of their houses. I think
the Jets and the Packers. I don't think either one
(24:36):
is going to be who they thought they wanted to
be or who their fans want them to be. I
think they're both going to suffer a little bit. But yeah,
it's time to sort of pay up there. You know,
they made their bargain a few years ago when they
moved up to draft that kid. He didn't fall in
their lap. They made moves to go up and get him.
A lot of people thought they overdrafted him. It's go time.
(25:00):
Don't want to hear about Lerni Kurve, you know what
I mean. I don't to hear about oh Justin being
a starter. Now he's been there for years, poor under
the coach who you guys say is a genius.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So let's see it Hey, speaking a genius, it seems
like there's kind we're seeing a lot of cracks in
New England with Bill Belichick and potentially he's at odds
with Bob Kraft over the money that was spent. And
now you have ex players like as Sante Samuel questioning
him and his tactics. And this doesn't really happen in
New England. It has never happened in New England. But
(25:30):
a couple of years with no playoffs and Brady winning
the Super Bowl, and maybe Belichick's not a genius. Jay,
I look at this that this is a rubber hit
the road type year for Belichick in New England, where
if he'd if they don't get to the playoffs this year,
I don't see him coaching in twenty twenty four in
New England if that doesn't happen this year.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, I mean it could. It could get really uncomfortable quickly.
I think they're the fourth team in that division. And
from a talent standpoint, from a roster construction standpoint, you know,
arguably from a quarterback standpoint. Again, I'm not bullish on
this Rogerstone, as you guys know, but he's still probably
(26:09):
better than Matt Jones. I think, you know, the too
cute by half deal with the offensive coordinators plural, neither
one who was even remotely cut out for that job,
may have expedited a ticking time bomb between him and
the owner, if in fact that is where it's headed.
So yeah, I think it's gonna have to be one
(26:29):
of Bill Belichick's best coaching jobs, because again, I don't
like the team he's put together. I don't think it's fast.
I don't think it's twitchy. I don't think it wins
out on the edge on offensive defense, which is the
way I think you kind of have to be built
these days. Now, maybe he does coach him up, and
maybe the O'Brien thing turns out to be inspired, and
you know, maybe he makes chicken salad and a chicken
(26:51):
you know what, in which case, you know, it's gonna
be hard to walk away from him regardless. But yeah,
I don't think this was the master plan. You know,
the master plan was to keep winning without Tom Brady
and to keep having an elite defense so that his
son could be the next man up, and that Bill
Belichick could do what Parcels did and make a ton
(27:13):
of money being the football Czar and he'd have his
hand picked coach who would be his son. That's that's
not gonna happen. Now, maybe that ends up being you know,
Draw Mayo or whatever whoever that next man up is.
And maybe that transition does happen sooner than anybody would
have fathomed just a couple of years ago. Yeah, I
(27:34):
think it's I think it's it's a year where Bill
Belichick and I don't wanna see he doesn't mean he
doesn't approve anything to anybody. It's not the right way
to catch it. But yeah, how that relationship continues to
sort of evolve. And then I think the part nobody
talks about as well is Robert Craft and how much
(27:56):
longer does he want to be the face of all this?
And as he turned it over to his son Jonathan Kraft,
I think that could further potentially expedite a Bill Belichick Sayonara,
last one for.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Me, Jason. You know you mentioned kind of the uncertainty
in the NFC outside of Philly, and you know, San
Francisco's is so interesting to me because obviously the roster
is so built for right now, Rock Party comes in,
He's awesome, he gets hurt. Do we have any idea,
like where he is on his timeline? Is he gonna
be ready for the start of the season, Is he
getting close to being healthy? Do you have any idea
(28:29):
where he is right now?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I mean, they would want you to believe that everything
is you know, honky dory, and maybe it is, you know,
and his throng program is supposed to be, you know,
leading him to a point where he'll be okay for
the start of camp. But I don't know. I don't.
I don't put a whole lot of faith in that
stuff until guys get there and people actually see him
(28:53):
and you know, they're being re evaluated by the team's
medical staff. I just I'm just not sold on Rock Like,
I don't know. I think it's a real short sample size.
I think he was in some you know, really sort
of conducive situations. And the bottom line is cal Shanahan's
track record with quarterbacks ain't great if you look at
(29:17):
it in its totality, so uh and even again, look
at what he spent to get up to get Trey Lance,
and Trey Lance isn't even as good as brock Party
And we don't even know what the hell brock Purty is.
So I'm I have a little bit of I guess
John decide when I look at that situation, and I
still feel like nobody knows that much about brock Purty
because brock Purty has now hasn't practiced, let alone played
(29:39):
a whole lot of football up here. And that was
a team that was kind of on a bit of
a magic carpet ride when when he came in and
everybody rallied around him and there was less than zero expectations.
It's a whole different ball acts now when you come in,
everybody's looking at you day one as the starter. So
I just say, there's a whole lot of you know,
to be determined.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason Locke and
for check him out Odyssey, w Washington Post, NFL. Jay
is always buddy, appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah week, gentlemen, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Great stuff there from Jason lock and forth. We'll get
into the Andrew Luck debate because it's just it fascinates
me that there's certain players Andrew that that like Andrew Luck.
There's certain fans fascinating me that no matter what people
are gonna always go to the wall for them like that.
Like I know that there's so many players go man,
I wish I had the reputation of Andrew Luck because
it's like the guy can do no wrong, no walks
(30:34):
away from the game early. Now all of it. No,
the guys still like, oh my god, really, oh my god,
really the guy. It's it's insane. But some people just
have that image about them that know what you no
matter what you say, I'm going to defend that person,
and that person is the greatest person in the world. Man.
I'd love to be one of those people.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I was gonna say really quick, I know, we gotta
get to Mansia. I think it's also the opposite as well,
is I think there are certain people that when he retired,
still very much in him prime, that we'll never forgive
him for that, like you've still had eight, nine, ten
good years left and you could have done it, and
you did it, and blah blah blah blah blah, and
so I he like for a boring guy, he's weirdly polarizing,
(31:12):
let me put it that way.
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Speaker 1 (32:06):
The Home Run Derby is in the books, holding on
to win by two home runs. Vlad Guerrero Junior. His
dad won it sixteen years ago. Now Vlad Junior wins it.
Awesome story. He was excited jumping around. But let me
throw this at you at because I've been thinking about
this tonight. Okay, Like you know, the home run derby
(32:26):
we talked about at the beginning of the show about
how how much fun it is and how people still
pay a lot of attention to It's better than the
slam Dunk contest, even though we kind of see the
same thing every year. We see lots of big home runs,
and the long home runs are a big deal. And
now guys get bonus times if you hit one more
than four hundred and forty feet. Right, So let me say,
what do you think about this? For a year? You
change the format and make this for a year, what
(32:48):
do you think about this? Okay? Instead of what we
have now, you invite the people who want to participate.
We used juiced baseballs. We have a whole thing. ESPN
does a whole big thing before they show it. Here's
Howard juicing them. These balls are flying out. These are
these are the most illegal of the baseballs you could
(33:08):
possibly have. Right, these are the most illegal balls you
can possibly get. At least these balls are gonna fly Okay,
and you have everybody go up and everybody gets ten swings,
and whoever hits the home run the farthest wins the derby.
And that way you're watching for five hundred foot home runs,
five hundred and twenty five foot home runs, all big,
(33:30):
and then you watch something a little bit new and guy,
you know, so guys don't get tell you watch guys
hit a lot of home runs, they get tired. Like
Jay Rod hit forty one in the first round. He
got tired. He was you know, Pine Alonzo had twenty
some odd home runs. Didn't matter, he lost by twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
But you do that for a year and just see
use it, you know, show me a special like show
here's how you juice a baseball? Right, these are the
balls we're all gonna use. They're all Mark Special like
they were tonight. You can see him and whoever hits
a home run the farthest, when is the home run derby?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
So here's my only question of that is, you know
we're talking about NBA All Star weekend. Before you have
the three point contest, you have the slam dunk contest,
you have the skills contest. Why can't you have both?
Why can't you have a field of four to six
to whatever that does the what we're doing right now,
and then why can't you have the you know, the
(34:21):
group of the big bashers, like the Adam Dunn types.
And I don't know, you know, I'm dating myself here.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Wow, why can't you have the first name you went
to was Adam.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Adam done In?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean the guy. All he did was hit home
runs a strike out. He's perfect for them. He's not
been mentioned on sports talk radio in a decade. I
mean I haven't said his name.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Max Munsey is now Outam done Aaron, Okay, so Max Munsey?
So why why can't you do both? This is my
only question? Why can't you have? You know, like I said,
it's like the skills competition, you have three point shots,
you have the skills competition, you have dunk contests. Why
can't you have the totality basically, the quality versus wantity,
(35:00):
the quantity home run derby which we have now, and
then the quality deepest home run.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You think it's too similar, I don't know, Like you
have this home run contest, that home run contest.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
How about this? You get down to the final two
and then they get a certain number of swings, but
it has to be the furthest home run. Okay, now, yeah,
you could say no, you could say it's.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No, no, we're still using the juice baseballs, right.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh, I like it we using If we're using.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
The juice baseballs, I could be down with there. I
just want to see it right. If you use the jews,
I could be talked into anything. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
My only my only thing is how many swings would
each guy get?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
No, guy gets ten swings? Okay, guy Cat said, you don't.
You don't want guys to get really tired. I mean
maybe twenty. You give a guy twenty swings, that's.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Just one round.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, one round, they get fIF you know, twenty swings
something like that, or and uh and go. You want
to be able to give a guy a chance to
really get into groove. I think it could be funny
talked into that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, I think it'd be fun and different. I would
have no fundamental issue. I do like this format, though
it's not like the Dunk Contest that needs to be overhauled.
I like this format, but I'm willing to see something different.
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as promised at I said, ay, the Mets had not lost,
but since you could do in the show, great and
obviously you are the good luck charm because what happened
we finished our show Friday night, the Mets in one.
What happened? They lose Saturday, they lose Sunday. So now
you're back, We're gonna figure something out here. Because as
long as we obviously are the key to the whole
Mets thing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You told me that as long as they won Monday
through Friday, I'm back in.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So you know, no, I'm talking about expanding. I'm talking
about expanding now because obviously you're even a bigger part
of this than I thought. Okay, yeah, yeah, you're bigger. Yeah.
This is like when you find out the plot in
the movie goes bigger than you thought it was. Hey,
this goes bigger than the chief of police. This goes
all the way up to the Senate. Right, that's this
part where you think, okay, wait, this goes a little
bit bigger because clearly it's not just about this is
(01:37):
when he is here during the week and it's working, okay,
and now on the weekends when you weren't there, Boom,
look what happened. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I have to say this, Okay. I like Mike Harmon
a lot. It's clear that I have some power that
I didn't even realize I have, because when I'm in
the Mets can't lose, and Harmon leaves for seventy two
hours in his whole football program, the one team that
I know Harmon loves going completely falls up part. So
I didn't know that I had this much power. We'll
see what happens. You know, I don't know if you
(02:04):
want to start booking your Super Bowl tickets for the
Jets yet. I mean, assuming you keep me in, we'll see,
We'll see if you keep your word.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, let's Eyracuse. Wait wait, now, let's see. You need
to see if you extend past the Mets and into
the Jets. I mean, you may just just be a
Mets thing, you know. I don't know. I mean you
could be you could be in everything thing, but you
could just be a Met.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Never want to just be a Mets thing. Eric Syracuse,
I mean, do I have to now put am I?
Do I have to guarantee Syracuse a Final four spot?
I mean, how does this all work? I'm confed.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, if you can do that, and well, okay, let's
let let's just guarantee that as well. Just guarantee, just
guaranty we're gonna get Mellow's kid, and that's gonna work,
and then Adrian Autry is taking us to the Final four.
That's how it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's what Torres says.
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so far. The Jets is big, though, Let's see if
you still have that Jets power.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And poor Harmon's Northwestern Wildcats. So I'm sure we'll talk
about at some point, by the way, if Harmon needs
to call in and do a little therapy session. Yeah,
I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh I can't. I can't do it. Rosberg just throwing
the gauntlet down.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna step aside.
I mean, his name is still on the show, but
like he says, still it's.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Still on the You're like, you're like Crypto dot com, Hey,
can we get those letters of Staples down. We gotta
put the crypto. Just put those Staples letters someplace. Just
Crypto put the crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So you're saying Harmon is Crypto dot com and I'm Staples.
I'm I'm more like, I guess I'm what's next, I'm
not Staples.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah no, no, no, you bored me. You're you're more
You're more crypto. Yeah no, no, you're definitely more crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Who wanted Harmon be crypto because the name is still
on the building, but he but they're no longer there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah. Oh wow. See I I can't argue with logic.
That's very difficult. All right, all right, well let's learn
they are there though. Let's it is it is? Well,
look what's crypto dot com goes belly up. They're just
gonna bring those letters back out and put them back
on it. It's Staple Center again. But they're not paying us.
Money doesn't matter at Staple Center. But they're not paid,
doesn't matter. It's Staple Center. Sound's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I guess. So yeah, I don't know. Poor Armin is
the That's the theme of the early part of the show.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So here we are right now, getting close to the
finals of the home run derby Randy Rose. Arena is
in thirty five home runs. In the semifinals, he could
potentially take on Julio Rodriguez, who is getting set to
battle for his spot in the finals. And here's the thing.
He's got to beat vlad Guerrero Junior forty one home
(04:38):
runs in the first round of the Home Run Derby.
He is Pete Alonzo's kryptonite. Pete A. Lonzo is not
lost to anybody in the Home Run Derby except for
Julio Rodriguez. And now here's Jay rod on his way
potentially to the finals in Seattle. G What a surprise.
The guy from the hometown team is gonna end up
in the finals in the Home Run Derby.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Can I ask you a random question? And Jason, I'm
just throwing this against the wall. Why has MLB seemingly
figured out a way to make Home Run Derby still
awesome every single year? Yet the Dunk Contest is essentially unwatchable?
And I know it was a little bit better this
year with Mac McClung, But it's like, it's just interesting,
Like the Home Run Derby is as awesome as ever.
The ratings are through the roof. Everybody loves it. You know,
(05:21):
obviously we're watching Rodriguez in the in the studio earlier.
It was fun to watch. It's just interesting how like
the two events have gone in I don't say completely
different directions because I don't know if the home run
Derby is as big as it was in the Ken
Griffey Junior Mark McGuire days, but it hasn't kind of
taken the step back the way that that the dunk
Contest has.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
No honestly, honestly, it's it's pretty easy. And if NBA
players cared a little bit more about the dunk Contest,
but clearly they don't because the stars don't do it.
You just said right here, Julio Rodriguez, who is one
of the big up and coming stars in all of
Major League Baseball? Is he the biggest star?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But is he a star? Is he big? Is he
up and coming? Yeah? You talked about Mac mcclunk, right.
I mean, who's gonna nobody tunes into All Stars Saturday
Night anymore? Because who's the dunk contest. It's nobody that
anybody knows. It's nobody that even the average basketball fan knows, Like, wait,
what team is this guy on?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, but he dunk's great. Look at his highlights on YouTube.
Well that's great, That's what I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Do because wasn't even in the NBA when they when
they put him in the Dunk Contest for what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I don't even know. I don't know. I don't
know what to say to to the NBA. It's like, hey,
why won't your stars do it? Why are they are? They?
Are they that narcissistic that if they have a bad time,
if they dunk, they're gonna get made fun of. And
I don't want the video up of me. But you
look at it's the biggest stars. It's the biggest stars
in Major League Baseball who want to do it? Pete
(06:44):
Alonso is a big star, right, Vlad Junior is a
big star. Jay Rod is a big star. Randy Roserta
is a big enough star as you can see in
Tampa Bay. So you have big names, and it's not
like you need all of the biggest of the big stars.
You don't need Bryce Harper and Mike Trout and Otie
in all the home run there. You don't need them all.
But you need some kind of big names that people
know right like you. You don't need to say, hey,
(07:07):
it's gotta be honest. And Lebron and and and and
Jason Tatum in the slam Dunk contest. But if it
was Jalen Brown in the slam Dunk contest. That's that's
pretty cool. If it was James Harden the slam, like
if he could unk. Sorry, I gotta bring up something
you can do. But if it was, if it was
if it was stars that could that that you'd like
to see in the slam dunk contest, Okay, great, like
(07:29):
that that would be said. People would tune in because
they want to see what the stars do. It's really simple,
you know that. This is why we watched the home
run derby and why All Stars Saturday Night is just yeah, okay, great,
we saw some threes, we saw some dunks, all right,
that's awesome. Two things.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
One, you know, because of the time slot that I'm in,
I'm in this time slot on Saturdays, I have one.
I'm the only one that still watches All Star Saturday. Uh,
and it is pretty unwatchable. I was telling producer Danny
g he was in studio before he does a you know,
great job with Cavino and Rich. I was telling him
my theory on the dunk contest is and it's tonight's
MLB's night. But I said to him, I said, the
(08:03):
dunk contest, they should make it like hard knocks. You
know how hard knocks. You're required. If the league asked you,
you have to do it. I don't know about you know,
Lebron at thirty eight, but I say, like your first
two to three years in the league, if the NBA
says you're in, you're in. Jaw, You're in. Everybody wants
to see you, your young rising star Zion. I don't
(08:24):
care how big your shoe deal is and how bad
it's for your brand. If you don't win, you're in.
So I'll tell you what I think. I just saved
the dunk contest. I will save this awful n season
tournament later if you'll allow me to.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And I swear I didn't mean to make.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
This takeaway from Major League Baseball's spotlight right now, but
I was just thinking about it as I watch. It
is like the home run derby is always entertaining, it's
always fun, and the all the slim dunk contest never is.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You just killed You just killed everything. You just did everything.
You're like a weed killer in the backyard. All the
big weeds dandelion did get you killed them. You killed
them all. They got families.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Eron, they got family, She's got families. These basketball players, Yeah,
don't you know Zion's got a family common don't you
know that, right?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I mean I do.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I've seen his I've seen his girlfriend's tweets up,
up and down and left and right and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And look, the one thing you know about Zion, even
when he's not playing, he can dunk. Because that's the
one thing we do is we get videos of him
dunking like like a lunatic, right, like, oh, but he
still can't come play, But look at him, dunk boy,
he still can dunk. So I know he could do
that even if he can't play.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Single elimination game with the season on the line. Yeah, well,
I'll come back when Zion feels like Zion, I'll come back.
But you're dunking in the layup line before the game.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We don't need to do the Zion monologue tonight, but
I will tell you I'm so over that guy. Like,
just either either play or I don't need interviews with you.
I don't need like that because I was on air.
You know, you and Mike must have been traveling or something,
because I remember being on air with Arnie Spanier. I
think it was either the night before that game when
Zion did that press conference where he said Zion's not
(09:56):
feeling like Zion, and I just remember being on and
being like, this guy is such a clown man. He's
such a clown and they should force him to do
the dunk on. So are you strictly over to the
on game, like on the court stuff or off the
court everything. I don't I don't need an update everyone
off the court stuff too. Actually that's proved. That's actually
pretty entertaining.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Do you not? Did you stop following Mariah Mills on Twitter?
Did you see if she jumped over to threads? Because
I that might threads. That might give me to sign
up for threads. I still have not signed up for
threads yet. That might get me to do it. Yeah,
I just you know, like like in and listen. I
understand NBA reporters have a job to do. But when
it's like when I get the the shams alert, Zion's
(10:36):
still not ready for full five, Like, I don't need it.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I know he's not ready. I'm just gonna assume that
he's not playing until I see him, and then like
I just I couldn't care less about that. And then
you know, there's all sorts of reports about what he
relationship with the team. It's like, you're not good enough.
You haven't done enough to not have a relationship with
the team. Here's an idea. If the coach tells you something,
maybe you should do it. If the training staff tells
you to do do something, maybe you should do it.
So anyway, kind of over that. This all started with
(11:01):
the home run derby and now I'm just on a
zion red forgive me.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Twitter at how about a fresca Aaron and Aaron underscore
torres Jason Smith at in for Harmon tonight. Now from
the home run derby, we are getting close to the final.
Julio Rodriguez has just finished eighteen home runs and they're
in between rounds now and vlad Guerrero Junior needs more
than eighteen, needs nineteen to make it to the finals
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against the Rose Arena. Now here's what I'm hoping because
because this is what I did before the season, I
can never go to Sea I can't travel to Seattle
right now because before the season I said the Mariners
are going to the World Series and Jay Rod's going
to be the al MVP, And all the Mariners have
done so far is disappoint and show that Wait, there's
everybody else in the division, even the Angels may be
(11:46):
better than us, and Julio Rodriguez has just been Okay,
So I am hoping this is a springboard for jay
Rod to win the AL MVP, because that can still happen.
Because can you still give Atani the MVP if he
ends up in the National League for the last two months.
I don't know. I'm just asking for a friend right now.
So I'm hoping that this is now what jay Rod
jumps on and he goes to win the AL MVP.
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Like I said before the season.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Uh yeah, I mean, I have no fundamental issue with that.
I mean, I'm just, you know, just thinking about across
the league. Yeah, obviously, like you said, the Mariners are struggling.
They're in third place right now. Did you know, obviously,
Otani I still think is the front runner. I know,
you think he'll be a Dodger before the time we're
done with this show.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Uh now, Dodger after this year, They're not gonna trade
him to the Dodgers. It's gonna be somebody else for
the last two months of the year, and then it'll
be the Dodgers. At the end of this year, like
that when MOOKI when they were shaking head like with
him and Mookie Bets were shaking hands in second base
the other night. Is hey, we'll see in a couple
of months. Like I think I actually read Mookie Betts
as I said, I'll see you in a couple of months,
And I think he actually passed on a piece of
(12:49):
paper that he could sign that says, you know that
this could happen right here. So it's not they won't
trade him with the Dodgers now, but they will. But
that's where that's where he will likely end up in
the offseason.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's interesting. I mean that part isn't as interesting because
obviously that's a lot of the speculation. It'd be interesting
to see somebody trade for him without a guarantee of
keeping him this offseason.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
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Major League Baseball home run derby vlad Guerrero Junior getting
ready to hit. We just see Jay Rod getting told
Jay Rod's got his thirty second bonus. So we have
that to go before Vlad goes to hit so we'll
keep you updated there. But coming up next maybe the
(13:30):
most interesting Hall of Fame debate that I've heard this year.
We'll get into that coming up next. Keep it right here,
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more on the Major League Baseball home run derby coming
up in a couple of minutes, but set to have
some big NFL talk here, And you know, normally at
when we have Hall of Fame debates, I kind of
tune out because as so much so, as you know,
we let in a lot of players who are now
just really good, and you know, the Hall of very good,
and sometimes guys can play really well for four years
(15:29):
and get in, like Terrell Davis. But I gotta say
today the debate that was firing up social media, I
loved the Andrew Luck now five years removed the last
time he played in the NFL. Is Andrew Luck a
Hall of famer? This is a debate joining us now
in the hotline a man who now I know is
(15:50):
a switch hitting NFL insider for Odyssey and the Washington Post.
He is the ADLEI Rushman of insiders. It is Jason
locking Ford. What's happened?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Dude? Not a lot, not a lot more impressive than
hitting home runs from both sides of the plate in
the derby. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, too bad. You know, Lewis Robert was on
an absolute tear as well. You know, it's kind of
weird how they do this, and you know, you get
matched up with your seating and then that's that. You'd
think that maybe just let everybody go, you know what
I mean, and then see who I the highest totals
and then you know, the next for advance or whatever.
But yeah, that's pretty awesome for him to be there
with his dad and to be, you know, a kid
(16:32):
from Portland, just down the road from Seattle in his
first All Star game and this whole family there and
his dad pitching to him. That's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So while all this is going on, I mean, you
have to be pretty happy there, because I got news
for you, man, Orioles. I don't know that there's a
scenario where I can't see the Orioles winning the ALE East.
And I know you're immersive. I mean, I look how
great a first half that the they did everything right
there plus run differential is by five hundred and everything
(17:05):
they did best team in baseball. Look at where they are,
Look at what the we're outdown, and the Orioles.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Are right there, and they with them in the lost total.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, I can't. I can't see there being any
outcome other than Orioles win the ALE least.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
I appreciate that sentiment, and I hope you're right. But
I can can coct many doomsday scenarios or even near
doomsday scenarios in which they lose by at least a
half game. But no, the way I colcit and we
talk about this for four hours a day on my
radio show here in Potomom. Even when they were you
know whatever, thirteen and oh and thirty and five, I said,
(17:39):
they ran away, but they didn't hide. And let's see
what this lead looks like Memorial Day, and let's see
what this lead looks like July the fourth, and the
Orioles have always been within earshot, you know. I think
it probably got up to maybe seven and a half
eight at one point, but never got to ten or
over ten. It's mostly been around between five and a
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half and seven. And then, you know, the Rays went
into this tailspin where they whatt three and seven in
their last ten. I think they've only won six of
their last twenty games, and the Orioles continued to play
consistent baseball. Orioles haven't been swept in the series since
Ddly Rutchman was called up May twenty first last year. So, yeah,
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they're a really good baseball team, and the Rays are
a really good baseball team. But the race pitching staff's
been decimated by injuries. Now and if this tiler glass
now thing is anything serious, we know what mcclanahan's already on.
The il Rasmus has been shut down for the year.
Springs has been shut down for the year. Nobody talks
about Shane Biz anymore. It's like he didn't exist, like
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at that Kidal when he was going to be a superstar.
Now maybe they trade for starting pitching, and Lord knows
that they create opportunities with their bullpen and how creative
they are utilizing their arms. And I'll never count them out.
But three or four guys in that lineup come back
to Earth now, Jose Siri, Tyler Walls, Manny Margo. I mean,
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there was point in time when everybody's ops was over
eight fifty and that's just not the case anymore. So yeah,
it'd be an interesting second half. I think the Orioles
could certainly win this division. But I look, I'm the
Rays have done some exceptional, exceptional stuff and they've got
a genius front office. So the trade deadline is gonna
be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
All right, Well, let's get into the speaking of fascinating,
because I just love this debate all day to day,
you know, and usually Hall of Dates are like, okay, yeah,
but I really loved a because here we are, now
five years since he's retired. Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Come on, man, this is just because it's July and
there's no deflate gate this year, and there's no bounty
gate this year, or there's no you know, there's no
Deshaun Watson waiting on us, you know, as a plan,
there's nothing going on. I mean, that's that. This is
that we were in the twelve to fifteen day stretch
(20:07):
where possibly nothing happens in the NFL, and then what
veterans report around the twenty fifth, twenty six most places,
and away we go. There is no there's no debate here.
The Honky kunk man himself, Jim Mersey, would he even
try to make the case that Andrew luxA Hall of Famer?
I mean, how can you even like this isn't Sandy Kofax,
(20:30):
you know what I mean? The guy came in, played
five or six years, was hurt a ton in the
last two or three. What are we talking about? Like
Hall of fame? He would even be on All Decade team.
How can this be a debate?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I mean, I would debate he was one of the best.
I mean, if he has to retire because of literal
injuries that don't allow him to play as opposed to
retiring on his own recognisance. You don't think there would
be a healthy conversation about it.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Jason, what's the signal sure moment of his career?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I mean he went to what four playoff appearances?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Okay, the comeback, the comeback win, the comeback win against
the Chiefs, that's probably it.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Other than that, no, because look, I'm with you, I
don't think he's a Hall of Famer. He's he's very
good and.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Apparently played into his second contract.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean, you know what he was great at. My
favorite ande luck was always the Cults are losing forty
one to ten in the third quarter, and then the
final score would be like forty five thirty one, and
he would end up with four touchdowns and three hundred
and fifty yards like but the look, but the game
was over. It was forty one to ten in the
third quarter, and he gets like three garbage touchdowns in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I think he's a hell of a player. I mean,
if you want to make an argument, you think he
was on possibly a potential Hall of Fame Marc, I
mean i'd say, well, probably still a little premature, but maybe.
I mean it's possible but no, I don't. I don't
know how. I just don't see it. I mean, I
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know I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You mentioned Jason being a few months away or a
few weeks, a few weeks away, a few days away
from training camp. You're opening up? Is there any like
every team has interesting stories, like what is the one
thing that you're looking forward to more than anything else?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I mean there's a few things. You know. There are
teams that took a big jump up last year, you know,
and can they This is not always a linear league.
In fact, it's often not so you know what, like
the Jacksonville Jaguars, Like do they pick up where they
left off? Or are there some you know, hiccups along
the way. Have they overestimated themselves in some areas? The
(22:49):
fact that they're playing in such a crappy division certainly helps.
I'll be looking at it's it's quarterback driven league, right,
and so we'll be looking at this rookie class and
they were under such a microscope and it's you know,
funny you know, or say comes out today, and I mean, look,
I think I think anthink Richardson really needs to play.
I mean, like, yeah, Gardan Minchell is a good quarterback,
(23:10):
but you know, I think Richardson needs to play, but
you know, hey, it's the coach's decision. This is coming
from a guy who literally made three quarterback changes last
year and fired a coach because he didn't think he
was playing the guy he wanted him, you know what
I mean, forced the coordinator out. Like, no, I'm pretty
sure Anthony richards is gonna be the opening day starter,
unless you know, he breaks his leg in the preseason. Like,
(23:31):
so sort of the arc of those kids, you know,
and how much are they playing early and how well
are they playing? You know that that's always something that
will will you know, people will want to follow, and
certainly I'll be keeping an eye on that. And then
like in the NFC, like, who's any good you know,
(23:52):
Like I don't know, like is there a team that
kind of does what the Eagles did last year, you know,
and gets off to this kind of start where you
have to start thinking, hey, maybe they're a little more
formidable than we thought. Maybe they're going to sprint faster
than some people who thought maybe they were ready, you know,
to speed walk, but they weren't ready to compete with
the elite of the elite like and maybe there isn't
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that team in the NFC. Maybe that conference is just
a watered down mess, and maybe it is the Eagles
and everybody else. But you know, who's going to sort
of fill that gap? And then the Green Bay thing?
I mean, look, we would wait forever to see what
Jordan Love is, you know. And I think it's gonna
be a pox on both of their houses. I think
the Jets and the Packers. I don't think either one
(24:36):
is going to be who they thought they wanted to
be or who their fans want them to be. I
think they're both going to suffer a little bit. But yeah,
it's time to sort of pay up there. You know,
they made their bargain a few years ago when they
moved up to draft that kid. He didn't fall in
their lap. They made moves to go up and get him.
A lot of people thought they overdrafted him. It's go time.
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Don't want to hear about Lerni Kurve, you know what
I mean. I don't to hear about oh Justin being
a starter. Now he's been there for years, poor under
the coach who you guys say is a genius.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So let's see it Hey, speaking a genius, it seems
like there's kind we're seeing a lot of cracks in
New England with Bill Belichick and potentially he's at odds
with Bob Kraft over the money that was spent. And
now you have ex players like as Sante Samuel questioning
him and his tactics. And this doesn't really happen in
New England. It has never happened in New England. But
(25:30):
a couple of years with no playoffs and Brady winning
the Super Bowl, and maybe Belichick's not a genius. Jay,
I look at this that this is a rubber hit
the road type year for Belichick in New England, where
if he'd if they don't get to the playoffs this year,
I don't see him coaching in twenty twenty four in
New England if that doesn't happen this year.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, I mean it could. It could get really uncomfortable quickly.
I think they're the fourth team in that division. And
from a talent standpoint, from a roster construction standpoint, you know,
arguably from a quarterback standpoint. Again, I'm not bullish on
this Rogerstone, as you guys know, but he's still probably
(26:09):
better than Matt Jones. I think, you know, the too
cute by half deal with the offensive coordinators plural, neither
one who was even remotely cut out for that job,
may have expedited a ticking time bomb between him and
the owner, if in fact that is where it's headed.
So yeah, I think it's gonna have to be one
(26:29):
of Bill Belichick's best coaching jobs, because again, I don't
like the team he's put together. I don't think it's fast.
I don't think it's twitchy. I don't think it wins
out on the edge on offensive defense, which is the
way I think you kind of have to be built
these days. Now, maybe he does coach him up, and
maybe the O'Brien thing turns out to be inspired, and
you know, maybe he makes chicken salad and a chicken
(26:51):
you know what, in which case, you know, it's gonna
be hard to walk away from him regardless. But yeah,
I don't think this was the master plan. You know,
the master plan was to keep winning without Tom Brady
and to keep having an elite defense so that his
son could be the next man up, and that Bill
Belichick could do what Parcels did and make a ton
(27:13):
of money being the football Czar and he'd have his
hand picked coach who would be his son. That's that's
not gonna happen. Now, maybe that ends up being you know,
Draw Mayo or whatever whoever that next man up is.
And maybe that transition does happen sooner than anybody would
have fathomed just a couple of years ago. Yeah, I
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think it's I think it's it's a year where Bill
Belichick and I don't wanna see he doesn't mean he
doesn't approve anything to anybody. It's not the right way
to catch it. But yeah, how that relationship continues to
sort of evolve. And then I think the part nobody
talks about as well is Robert Craft and how much
(27:56):
longer does he want to be the face of all this?
And as he turned it over to his son Jonathan Kraft,
I think that could further potentially expedite a Bill Belichick Sayonara,
last one for.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Me, Jason. You know you mentioned kind of the uncertainty
in the NFC outside of Philly, and you know, San
Francisco's is so interesting to me because obviously the roster
is so built for right now, Rock Party comes in,
He's awesome, he gets hurt. Do we have any idea,
like where he is on his timeline? Is he gonna
be ready for the start of the season, Is he
getting close to being healthy? Do you have any idea
(28:29):
where he is right now?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I mean, they would want you to believe that everything
is you know, honky dory, and maybe it is, you know,
and his throng program is supposed to be, you know,
leading him to a point where he'll be okay for
the start of camp. But I don't know. I don't.
I don't put a whole lot of faith in that
stuff until guys get there and people actually see him
(28:53):
and you know, they're being re evaluated by the team's
medical staff. I just I'm just not sold on Rock Like,
I don't know. I think it's a real short sample size.
I think he was in some you know, really sort
of conducive situations. And the bottom line is cal Shanahan's
track record with quarterbacks ain't great if you look at
(29:17):
it in its totality, so uh and even again, look
at what he spent to get up to get Trey Lance,
and Trey Lance isn't even as good as brock Party
And we don't even know what the hell brock Purty is.
So I'm I have a little bit of I guess
John decide when I look at that situation, and I
still feel like nobody knows that much about brock Purty
because brock Purty has now hasn't practiced, let alone played
(29:39):
a whole lot of football up here. And that was
a team that was kind of on a bit of
a magic carpet ride when when he came in and
everybody rallied around him and there was less than zero expectations.
It's a whole different ball acts now when you come in,
everybody's looking at you day one as the starter. So
I just say, there's a whole lot of you know,
to be determined.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason Locke and
for check him out Odyssey, w Washington Post, NFL. Jay
is always buddy, appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah week, gentlemen, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Great stuff there from Jason lock and forth. We'll get
into the Andrew Luck debate because it's just it fascinates
me that there's certain players Andrew that that like Andrew Luck.
There's certain fans fascinating me that no matter what people
are gonna always go to the wall for them like that.
Like I know that there's so many players go man,
I wish I had the reputation of Andrew Luck because
it's like the guy can do no wrong, no walks
(30:34):
away from the game early. Now all of it. No,
the guys still like, oh my god, really, oh my god,
really the guy. It's it's insane. But some people just
have that image about them that know what you no
matter what you say, I'm going to defend that person,
and that person is the greatest person in the world. Man.
I'd love to be one of those people.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I was gonna say really quick, I know, we gotta
get to Mansia. I think it's also the opposite as well,
is I think there are certain people that when he retired,
still very much in him prime, that we'll never forgive
him for that, like you've still had eight, nine, ten
good years left and you could have done it, and
you did it, and blah blah blah blah blah, and
so I he like for a boring guy, he's weirdly polarizing,
(31:12):
let me put it that way.
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Speaker 1 (32:06):
The Home Run Derby is in the books, holding on
to win by two home runs. Vlad Guerrero Junior. His
dad won it sixteen years ago. Now Vlad Junior wins it.
Awesome story. He was excited jumping around. But let me
throw this at you at because I've been thinking about
this tonight. Okay, Like you know, the home run derby
(32:26):
we talked about at the beginning of the show about
how how much fun it is and how people still
pay a lot of attention to It's better than the
slam Dunk contest, even though we kind of see the
same thing every year. We see lots of big home runs,
and the long home runs are a big deal. And
now guys get bonus times if you hit one more
than four hundred and forty feet. Right, So let me say,
what do you think about this? For a year? You
change the format and make this for a year, what
(32:48):
do you think about this? Okay? Instead of what we
have now, you invite the people who want to participate.
We used juiced baseballs. We have a whole thing. ESPN
does a whole big thing before they show it. Here's
Howard juicing them. These balls are flying out. These are
these are the most illegal of the baseballs you could
(33:08):
possibly have. Right, these are the most illegal balls you
can possibly get. At least these balls are gonna fly Okay,
and you have everybody go up and everybody gets ten swings,
and whoever hits the home run the farthest wins the derby.
And that way you're watching for five hundred foot home runs,
five hundred and twenty five foot home runs, all big,
(33:30):
and then you watch something a little bit new and guy,
you know, so guys don't get tell you watch guys
hit a lot of home runs, they get tired. Like
Jay Rod hit forty one in the first round. He
got tired. He was you know, Pine Alonzo had twenty
some odd home runs. Didn't matter, he lost by twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
But you do that for a year and just see
use it, you know, show me a special like show
here's how you juice a baseball? Right, these are the
balls we're all gonna use. They're all Mark Special like
they were tonight. You can see him and whoever hits
a home run the farthest, when is the home run derby?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
So here's my only question of that is, you know
we're talking about NBA All Star weekend. Before you have
the three point contest, you have the slam dunk contest,
you have the skills contest. Why can't you have both?
Why can't you have a field of four to six
to whatever that does the what we're doing right now,
and then why can't you have the you know, the
(34:21):
group of the big bashers, like the Adam Dunn types.
And I don't know, you know, I'm dating myself here.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Wow, why can't you have the first name you went
to was Adam.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Adam done In?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean the guy. All he did was hit home
runs a strike out. He's perfect for them. He's not
been mentioned on sports talk radio in a decade. I
mean I haven't said his name.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Max Munsey is now Outam done Aaron, Okay, so Max Munsey?
So why why can't you do both? This is my
only question? Why can't you have? You know, like I said,
it's like the skills competition, you have three point shots,
you have the skills competition, you have dunk contests. Why
can't you have the totality basically, the quality versus wantity,
(35:00):
the quantity home run derby which we have now, and
then the quality deepest home run.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You think it's too similar, I don't know, Like you
have this home run contest, that home run contest.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
How about this? You get down to the final two
and then they get a certain number of swings, but
it has to be the furthest home run. Okay, now, yeah,
you could say no, you could say it's.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No, no, we're still using the juice baseballs, right.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh, I like it we using If we're using.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
The juice baseballs, I could be down with there. I
just want to see it right. If you use the jews,
I could be talked into anything. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
My only my only thing is how many swings would
each guy get?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
No, guy gets ten swings? Okay, guy Cat said, you don't.
You don't want guys to get really tired. I mean
maybe twenty. You give a guy twenty swings, that's.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Just one round.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, one round, they get fIF you know, twenty swings
something like that, or and uh and go. You want
to be able to give a guy a chance to
really get into groove. I think it could be funny
talked into that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, I think it'd be fun and different. I would
have no fundamental issue. I do like this format, though
it's not like the Dunk Contest that needs to be overhauled.
I like this format, but I'm willing to see something different.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
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