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June 22, 2022 35 mins

Mike Harmon and Dan Beyer, filling in for Jason Smith, dive into the news of future HoF tight end Rob Gronkowski retiring – for a 2nd time. He has a full resume of success, although we can’t forget the likes of Tony Gonzalez & Shannon Sharpe who paved the way for Gronk’s success! The guys also question if Deshaun Watson’s settlements will affect the discipline the NFL gives him. Plus, Mike and Dan talk a little NBA Draft!

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(01:08):
We've got two days to the NBA Draft off night
for hockey. Basketball's done a lot of baseball. But it's
a beautiful time of year. Good to have you in
with us as Smith takes his you know sojourn. And
and it's one of those things, Mike, where it finally
happened to me. It took a little while longer this year.
I don't know why, but I was. I was bitten

(01:30):
by the old bug, the old football bug. Did you
find the magazine? Not yet, because I blame the NFL
because of this, because they now don't release the schedule
until May, so there are no more NFL preview magazines
on the news stands at your grocery store a Memorial
Day weekend because they all have to get the schedule
in so it takes them a while. But yes, the
the bug has bitten. The bug has bitten me. I

(01:52):
am now waiting for not even patiently waiting for training camps,
just waiting for them to come along, waiting for football
season to be here. Uh. I have officially in that mode. Now.
I will tell you this. I did go to a
Barnes and Noble over the weekend, and and obviously I
knew that I was going to have the opportunity to
be on air with you tonight. I do have one
at my house. I do have a preview magazine, all right,

(02:13):
let me get it was either Lindy's or Athlon. I
don't even remember which one I bought. Those are the
first two that are usually out because there's a couple
of new ones too, or a couple of names I
didn't recognize. But one of them was kind of funny,
is that one of the articles they had tag was
Taylor Swift as if they're got you, I get that,

(02:34):
there you go. I mean, I celebrate her entire catalog.
So he was the picture. Yeah, it was more about
DeAndre Swift, I get it. Yeah, I mean get that
going for you. I love the regional covers as well,
Like what if you're like in the Midwest and the
Upper Midwest, you'll have Aaron Rodgers there and then they'll
be like a small picture of Justin Fields, and then

(02:56):
if you're in Texas, they'll probably be a big picture
of Deck Prescott with maybe a little Davis Mills in
the corner. Love the regional covers, like the fact that
you got Davis Mills into he got three minutes. Good
job by you. As you know, he was one of
my favorites to watch the end of last season, I
celebrated his entire catalog, and I think that there might

(03:16):
be some upside for a guy who's gonna be drafted
as a back end QB two and still his neck
took up two thirds of the cover despite being the
small picture in the corner. It's pretty amazing. Well, if
they were smart, they would have one of those telescoping
magazine covers so that you get the extra bonus. Like
so then I went into mint condition. You know, you
really took care of I'll tell you what. They're the
ones that have Rob Gronkowski as a weapon for Tom Brady.

(03:39):
Gonna kind of wish that they didn't go to print
so soon. Yeah, see, there's the problem with printing magazines.
And you did so so deftly because I was drifting
that way as well. Uh you notice how you already
have to take out the sharpie to your tight end
rankings and your Tampa Bay previews. And if I see
one more, Hey, Cameron Braid's a sleeper camera break's been
a sleeper for five years. Okay, just let the guy

(04:01):
in nap it's been okay. Uh, yes, if you missed
it earlier today, the announcement Rob Gronkowski, four time Super
Bowl champion, Pro Bowl are all pro eleven years uh
in the National Football League. Former member of the Fox
family for a time, Former seven w W E champion,

(04:23):
Rob Gronkowski called it quits or did he I'm looking
at let's see Sunday November twenty is a bye for
the Buccaneers and Drew Rosenhaus didn't do him any Favorales Rosenhouse,
it'll be awful hard when Tom calls to say no,
and then it's it's it's fair enough. I mean, I

(04:44):
don't think that any of us thought really, but it
does give us an opportunity in a point where you
started off the show, Mike saying, there's no Stanley Cup
final tonight, there's no NBA final, the draft is still
two days away, no MBA finals game to talk about.
So you're like, in a like, what a perfect time
to sit there and say, you know what, let's do
the let's do the retirement and this night, and we

(05:05):
could wax poetically about Gronk and his role as a
as a patriot, as a buccaneer, and as a tight end,
all while still leaving the possibility of the door slightly
open to make a return and try to win another
Super Bowl ring. Yeah, the door has to stay at jar.
I mean, no, nobody's fooled by this. Just like when
Tom Brady stepped away for his lenten season to ponder

(05:25):
the end walk the Earth. I don't think anybody bought
that that was the end after the year he had.
Are you kidding me? Come on? I know I did, though,
because I thought, like to the point that if you
were Brady, and this is you know, for for Brady
and Gronk to be so different, like yet, you know,
that's such a pola ab dual opposite attract. But Brady

(05:45):
was the guy who was saying all of these things
about like wanting to retire or you know, wanting to
play excuse me until he's forty five in retirement was
never an option. So I just thought like, once he
got to that option, that there was no way that
you are ever turning back from that, because it just
never seemed to be in the conversation. So I bought

(06:06):
the retirement this one. Yeah, I don't buy it. I
don't mind sitting there waxing politically about Rob Gronkowski and
figuring out his place in the game. But I did
buy Brady's. I just I'm with you. I don't think
that we're buying Gronkowski's when push comes to show, especially
when the season starts. Yeah, Brady's with all the other
stuff still swirling about, right, I'd still like to know
about any meetings that were had. It's been touched down briefly.

(06:29):
Dan Patrick talked with Brady middle of last week, uh,
and touched out it a little bit. But recognizing you're
not getting much much flowing out of that part of
the conversation, right, it's gonna acknowledge conversations were had, but
any specificity was going to be thrown away for a
book or TV twelve project media wise to come or

(06:50):
as a member of Fox. Maybe Jay Glazer can grill
him while he has a in a rear chokehold or
something like that. But Gronkowski, just like with Brady, though Dan,
everybody started to departs the words on the the goodbye
and how many times he referenced the Buccaneers versus not
mentioning the Patriots like he already did that. Yes, he

(07:11):
did that once. You don't need to go and say
goodbye to them again. I I and I agree because
he's that's the team that he's actually leaving, right, I mean,
like you have, you'll have the rest of the rest
of his career will be former Patriots kind of Rob Gronkowski,
right like, like that's that's where where he will be

(07:32):
known as when he goes into the Hall of Fame.
They don't do that in the football Hall of Fame,
where you have to pick a team, They just honor it.
You can play one game for a team, Mike, And
the NFL is quick to be like, all right, Seahawks
rode receiver Jerry Rice. There he is pure on Twitter
last week of him hugging Arizona Cardinals running back Emmett Smith. Yes, yes,
the NFL is a very unlike Baseball with that, But

(07:54):
for the rest of his career, in all of our minds,
we're gonna know that he is a New England Patriot.
The team that he's actually leaving, in the group that
he's actually leaving and could have contributed to and maybe
be rejoining again, is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I
don't have any problem with that. I don't think it's
a I don't think there's any Bill Belichick slight and
to your point, like we've kind of been through this
rodeo again, and if this is you know, just another

(08:17):
full retirement, you can then do it in the next
one if he wants to. I I I I find
it so absurd that we're still, you know, hanging on
this New England Patriots sort of stuff. And I mean
it would be very weird if he didn't mention the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, considering that's the team that he's played
with the last two seasons. Yeah, it's really been funny though.
Is we immediately get to the alright, is he the

(08:38):
greatest tight end of all time? Let's debate, because that's
what you need to do. But but we always get
into the recency bias again, right, just like as we
had all our Steph Curry conversations, and look, I don't
know where he put him. I like just throwing up
just so people can, like like meat on a bone,
watch the people go after each other between you know,

(09:01):
is it the Steph era or lebron air? I said
it in Jess saying all right, we'll get ahead of
it since it will be the lead on tomorrow's daily
talkers and TV shows and what do you know? The
next day. It was the lead on all the daily
shows and and TV talkers about where he ranked and
and certainly that Lebron aspect, you know, where we get

(09:22):
into all of the while, he's a better defender than stuff.
It's like, all right, but Michael greater than Lebron. There
so Michael wins, yes, and still stands supreme, just like
the tarantosaurs Rex does when you go see dinosaurs. That's
what it's all about. But people forget about Ozzy Newsome.
People forget about the great playing career of Mike Ditka.
He did more than just flip people off at chew

(09:44):
Gum really fast and right unrolls and they're playing the
Vikings that week. Yeah, and trade everything to go get
Ricky Williams and create a weird situation. Yeah. I mean
it was a great player. Shant its sharp, one of
our colleagues and the great Fox universe. You know once
a lot of time that guy was a monster on
the field. It's a it's a very it's such a

(10:05):
new era of tight ends. And and I like I
searched Rob Gronkowski, just threw it in the Google and
there was, you know, article Rob Gronkowski retires and you know,
Gronkowski calls it quits, and then you know, now they're
they're starting to feature tweets, you know that that are
happening on social media, like in a part of a
Google search, and literally the first tweet was my top

(10:26):
five tight ends of all time. Are like like, so
to your point, like that's immediately where people go and
I just this is how I look at it without
it being ranked, Mike, like I look at I I
really think that that Tony Gonzalez probably doesn't get enough
credit for as great as he was, even though we

(10:47):
give him a lot of credit. I kind of feel
that I kind of feel the position changed with him,
like like where where it was just now it's it's
such a such a reasonable It wasn't like a you know,
a a an ex factor or a secret weapon. It
was like this could be your main guy. And and

(11:07):
I feel that like Tony Gonzalez ended up leading a
generation of tight ends or leading the game to to
be that way where the Patriots are sitting there drafting
tight ends to be their number one wide receivers. And
I think that, you know, in Gronk's role in that
and succeeding should not be held against him, But I
just look at a guy like Tony Gonzalez is the

(11:28):
one who kind of like ended up paving the way.
And I'm not trying to do a non rankings Mike By,
you know, by saying I like Gonzalez better than Gronkowski.
I just think that Gronk is now in this new
sort of phase of the NFL tight end that was
ushered in because of the success of a guy like
Tony Gonzalez and really the success of a guy like

(11:49):
Antonio Gates as well. On the heels of that, It's
like that generation helped usher in what this next generation
consists of. Yeah, and back then those guys most often
we're still called onto block. It's one thing that you
could put in the positive column for Rob Gronkowski is
that's something he could and did brilliantly throughout his career. Right,

(12:09):
There's been George Kittle does that and engages Travis Kelsey
to an extent, Right, And then a lot of the
other guys that are past catchers. No, no, you don't.
They don't want to do it, and you don't want
to see It's kind of like pictures batting, which is
why you have a universal d H. They finally recognized
nobody wanted to watch a guy wave or just stand
there and watch three strikes come down the pipeline. So, uh,

(12:33):
just one of those tough days. If even if it's
only for forty days or sixty days or whenever training
camp ends, and he says, okay, I'm ready to go
to work. Because that's the other thing is he can
just skip training camp at this point. Sure, I think
a lot of players would. George k wants to buy
if you if you can sign up for that, why not? Hey,
we still want you. Rob Okay, I'll see after training

(12:55):
camps over gonna have twelve buys and then end up
decide to join the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well that's it.
November is their bye week comes after games against the Ravens,
Rams and Seahawks. Oh that's a murderer's role, right Hawks.
And you know it? Man, I wonder if he's gonna

(13:16):
want to be back for the surprising Seahawks. Who are
you know, eleven and one behind the upstart Drew Lock
at that point, maybe he'll want to make his return.
Prior to Pete, Carroll said, they're just fine. Gino Smith
going into his second decade in the league, and of course,
well do you have to right, It's a positivity, go

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match limitations do apply. Talked a little bit of Rob
Grondkowski to get things started. I'm sitting here, living and

(14:21):
dying with every pitch. Why because all the White Sox
are on in front of me, Dan Buyer, as I
sit here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, head on
a swivel. Plus one of those NBA Draft preview shows
that will go on for four hours because it's great
content because once it's done, you just play it again.
I love the team needs those where it's just a

(14:41):
quick it's with commercials, it's eighteen minutes at most of
what they've of of what they've got, but when you're
getting around and which reminds me, we talked about football
off the top. We've got to get me getting closer
to the NFL team. Uh, you're in review videos that
come out good. Remember when those used to air? And

(15:03):
I know the ESPN had them for a while back
in the day. I don't know if FS one has
them now or if it's just solely on the NFL
network or where it goes, but where you would see
the season and review it. Even when a team would
go to and fourteen, they would highlight like those two
wins would be twenty eight out of the thirty minutes
of the program. Well, you gotta gotta accentuate the positive, right,
you're trying to sell products, sell fan bases on hope,

(15:25):
remember and Shaw Shankra damn should Hope is tabbed is
one of the greatest things. That also is one of
the most dangerous things. Over the weekend, they did have
a nice marathon of revenge games so we went from
Peyton Manning against Andrew Luck and do Brett Farve against
the Packers, and then it started drifting into one hour
infomercials on different players and their histories and one of

(15:48):
the end teams and one of them was the the
early nineties Falcons. So an awful lot of prime time
Sanders running your time in those sweet helmets. Uh, the
NFL network, they'll find anything that down and give a
reason to play a game you like, best best ten,
you know, offensive tackle signings in the off season. You know,

(16:08):
then I will say number six. You know they'll have that,
like they will. They will replay anything if they can.
It's just like I'm working on, you know, monetizing it
an idea and something you and I used to do
when we were paired together frequently, Dan, which was pretty
much just rank stuff. So let's let's figure out how
to do that and get our share of that giant
pot of gold. I think when I almost feel like

(16:32):
Bleacher Report and their forty page slide shows that you'd
have to go to kind of cornered the market. When
you're like, all right, let's find out for the top
forty point guards in NBA history. Then you'd have to
click on one and then the next one, and then
when when when? When? When I was speeded and that
wasn't there. You're just waiting and waiting, and then you're
trying to find cheap ways around it. Can you just

(16:54):
change the U r L to get the number one? Uh?
Those were the days. Those were the days of rankings
on the internet. Executive producer Justin Frostbang goes, Yeah, think
about as a producer having to print all those look
for your hosts that wanted him. Did you use five
reams today? What did you do? Well? We did. We

(17:14):
went through these two sets of friends. That's my printer
running out after page. Why is there no paper here? Well,
they got the top twenty five of the you know,
free agent signings going on there. Dan Buyer in for
Jason Smith found Mike Armen. So we talked about Rob

(17:35):
Gronkowski and we celebrate his career, the big, goofy guy
who's well as smart as anybody in terms of playing
up an image and capitalizing every way he could. Uh.
And then we go to the other extreme of a case. Uh,
and cases that won't seem to end and all of
the salacious details are out there for you to peruse.

(17:58):
We've talked about the mad nozz him here at Fox
Sports Radio, but earlier today, attorney Tony Buzby said in
a statement that twenty of the twenty four original lawsuits
filed against Deshaun Watson have been settled. Well, we're working
through the paperwork related to those settlements. Once we've done so,
those particular cases will be dismissed. The terms and amounts

(18:20):
of the settlements are confidential. We won't comment further on
the settlements or those cases. Eventually we will get a
leak or two as to what those settlements were. I
have no doubts the way information flows. Uh, and like
already seen some numbers, Mike. I don't know they're real
or not. I don't want to say them because that

(18:40):
can't verify them, but I've already seen some numbers. Yeah,
I remember a couple of weeks ago there was an
estimate that, you know, the original was a hundred thousand
dollars that had been turned down. So it's a question
of all, right, between there and what constituted the settlements. Now,
we still have h Ashley s Lease, the first woman
to follow the lawsuit against Wattson and speak publicly. She

(19:02):
wasn't one of the twenty. So you still have four
plus And I say plus because while you had sixty six,
Massus is uncovered by that New York Times article and
you have no idea statute of limitation still UH in
effect here. I mean you can still see a filing
still to come. And none of this precludes future criminal

(19:27):
UH engagements right in terms of what information flows, So
you know, the potential still there. So for the Cleveland Browns,
all right, part of the way of a resolution, and
the NFL quick to point out quote today's development has
no impact on the collectively bargained disciplinary process. That was
from Brian McCarthy UH in reply to this. So you know,

(19:50):
you still have the c B A, which, as we
are to understand it is, you know, six games. But
you talk about extraordinary circumstances, the protect the shield kind
of moniker that and mantra that goes on here that
you know, the expectation is still that it'll be an
unprecedented disciplinary measure when it finally comes down from the

(20:13):
offices of the NFL. And I think that with what's
transpired with the settlements, it makes the NFL allows them,
Mike to hand out this punishment sooner rather than later.
I had thought that when the when the lawsuits grew
from twenty two to twenty four, that it actually was
difficult for the NFL to hand out a punishment at

(20:35):
that time, because how could you sit there and say,
all right, we are going to give you this punishment
when two more people came forward and wanted to be
a part of this lawsuit where they had more information
than you. You bring up the New York Times article.
You know that's more information. And I don't know if
the NFL is going to do a thorough investigation. I
think that we all actually have a reasonable doubts that

(20:58):
they will, but done pure optics that I didn't think
there was any way that they could give him his
suspension when these two new accusations were so fresh. It
would just mean like that you were satisfied with whatever
information you got, and we're ready to move forward with
it with the settling of these and we don't know
who settled and who didn't. I would guess, and this

(21:20):
is a complete guess, that the two new added ones
maybe didn't settle because they were so new to it.
I don't know. It could be wrong. Maybe an attorney
would have a better, you know, view on whether that's
the case. But this, to me allows the NFL to
get closer and closer to actually handing out that suspension,

(21:41):
because I think as long as this was hanging up there,
we were wondering where it was. And Roger goodelly and
said a couple of weeks ago at the owner's meetings
when he's like, yeah, you know, like we're nearing the
end of the investigation, but how could you end it
if two more people join that lawsuit. And I think
that this at least allows them to do I don't
know if it I don't know if it changes anything.
I don't think that it does. Um, I don't think
that it that it should the information is there. But

(22:03):
I do think that allows the NFL to not maybe
put an emotion whatever penalty they want for Deshaun Watson. Yeah,
I've I've heard the arguments made and folks say, well,
it wasn't criminal. Well, we've had many suspensions in the
past that didn't go into the criminal repoards and nobody
was convicted of anything. Uh. We we've certainly seen a

(22:23):
wide array of disciplinary measures you know, from the deflation
of football's to some you know, one or two cases
that had some details but went went I don't want
to say went very quickly, but we're out of the
like go back to the Ezekiel Elliott. I don't know

(22:44):
that we ever got to a conclusion that was really
I think satisfactory in terms of information flow. Yet he
got suspended as many games as anybody has, right, and
and the Tom Brady things just a whole other christ
point for another point. But but just the idea that
we've seen disciplinary action without a criminal charge sticking in

(23:07):
the past. So suddenly saying, well, he settled all of
these in civil courts, Well, no, that's that's not the point. Again.
You know, I'm not an attorney, you're not an attorney.
But just to sit there and say that you know
it wasn't criminal, I mean, doesn't I mean a lot
of reasons why their charges weren't you know, filed. That
doesn't mean that none of these were you know, that

(23:29):
there was anything wrong. And to your point, the NFL
is punished stuff that. I mean, there's there's no law
on any city or county jurisdiction that has has a
law about deflating football's you like like committed to your point, Well,
he took away the mattress tag, so he's under arrest.

(23:50):
Is really kind of the equivalency there. But to the
point about the NFL, right, we've seen and that that's
probably the case that underscores it most is that Roger
Goodell and the NFL in all of these cases, they've
kind of been able to do whatever the hell they
want and you may not like it, you may not
agree with it. And obviously Goodell is pushing away saying, hey,

(24:12):
it's not me. We've got other people that are hired
to do this now. But don't think for a second,
going back to that Iron Throne uh mock up that
they did from Game of Thrones with him all those
years ago, that he doesn't still have the invisible hand
making it all come together, because ultimately he's the face
of the owners and the league. Uh. And with the

(24:32):
player conduct policy, it gives them very wide birth h
and latitude of how they adjudicate these when someone tarnishes
the shield. And this is a case that's been going
on in cases that we're talking about for almost two years.
And for the Cleveland Browns, I mean part of this
is I have to wander behind the scenes, someone in

(24:54):
their office to say we we need to push this along,
kind of like Stephen Ross wanted all the way back
when the Dolphins were kicking the cans and trying to
see if they could acquire the rights to Deshaun Watson.
But one of the things we kept hearing was that
Ross wanted the settlements done before they were going to
do anything in that regard. So I have to believe

(25:15):
to some degree for the Browns, they wanted some resolution
and at least pushing it to where, while not all
have been settled, that there's a large leap forward towards
some semblance of resolution. Look, everybody's still wringing their hands
over all of this. Yeah, Like I think that's that's
where I think. I think that the Browns, the Browns

(25:37):
just want to move on and don't want bad pr
which is not an excuse to move on for any
of us, you know, for for any fan that is anything.
Just because the Browns want us to move on doesn't
mean that we should move on. That's why I think
that that they you know, because Mike, they did the
deal and they just found no criminal charges all right,
we'll do the deal, you know, like, yeah, all right,
we'll give you this record setting contract. You don't want

(25:58):
to come to Cleveland. Well, well, Twitter and thirty million
guaranteed make you want to come to Cleveland. Okay, you
like like they're but I mean they want to move
on because they are getting bad press, uh for reasons
that they should get bad press, you know, and and
so it's something that they're gonna wanna, you know, have
to push on at some point. I don't know if
it'll be forgotten, it just won't be as intense as

(26:20):
it is now. But the Browns just want to you know,
fast track that to be you know, prior to week
one and get everybody excited. And I just don't think
that's realistic. Yeah, fast track it too. It's playing football
because the earlier they make the decision now then come
training camp, you can start selling. Hey, here's your Browns
right as opposed to we're still waiting on is at
six games? Is at eight games? Is a full season

(26:42):
with an appeal or or whatever? Uh, the decision would
be because you know the other thing, as you mentioned before,
right with the continued expansing expansion of cases trying to say,
all right, here's a suspension, but we reserve the right
to double dip. No, that's not gonna work with the
Players Association and in general society when you say, well,

(27:03):
you know what, the this changed a little bit, but
we'd already ruled on it now, But they added two
more cases. And I don't know how that would have
gone over on so many levels, not to mention the
p A trying to bring in all of the owners misdeeds.
Did they bring in the Browns and Jimmy haslum stuff
with Lyne j or is that too far in the
past at this point. Well, I'll tell you what, there's

(27:24):
been enough issues within the organization where you kind of you,
I don't want to say you forget about stuff, but
you moved past stuff, and I think that's what Cleveland
wants you to do. But with with the suspension, if
it's gonna be a year, uh, this is not going away.
This would be talked about the Deshaun Watson if he
was suspended for the entire twenty two season in training camp,
That's what I would be talked about. So this is

(27:45):
you know, this is just not a not a quick one.
I wonder at one point, Mike, I do wonder because
there is going to be a point where it's not
that it's forgotten, it's not the case, but where you
will be talking about Deshaun Watson the football player. I
just don't know when that time is going to happen.
In the interim, a lot of Jacoby Brissette and what
happens with Baker Mayfield. Let's do that for the nine

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of the usual lamentation because of the fracturing of college

(29:55):
basketball and the dismissal that it's all March madness. Uh,
nobody cares, I say all contra Mournfair. You've you've seen
these names, they've been around, and then we had a
bunch of guys that decided, you know what, i can
make more money going back to college, So I'm gonna
go back to college. But you have the reigning player
of the year decided to go back to college. Yeah,

(30:16):
coming out, there's there, there's there's a lot to like
about what is happening in the marriage between college basketball
and the NBA, and a lot of it is basically, Mike,
I think transfer portals has helped. And you know, now
n i L is such a huge, huge topic and
it's a big deal to your point, you know, a
guy like Drew Timmy, who who knows. I don't know

(30:37):
if Drew Timmy would have an NBA career, one that
could really hang his head on. But I'll tell you what,
you stick around for another season at Gonzaga, then what
do you know you're gonna You're worry about the NBA
next year and collect all your n i L money
when you can. And so I think that that is
that has really helped. And I think that with having
college basketball last season just seemed different than a lot

(31:00):
of the other seasons. And I don't think it's necessarily
even coming out of the pandemic. I just think we
got to know guys a little bit more. And now
when you're looking at an NBA Draft class, you aren't
as you know, they're not as much of a mystery.
And I'm not saying that everybody knows Jabari Smith of
Auburn and they were ousted in the second round of
the tournament. And so if you just joined you know what,

(31:22):
I wanted to watch College Schupster in the tournament, you
probably did get a lot to see from Jabari Smith. However,
if you did get that uptick in college basketball, but
I think a lot of people did you know a
little bit about Jabari Smith. You definitely know about Paula
Bank Carroll, you know about chet home Grid. But it's
not even the top three guys that you think are
going there. I think even late lottery guys someone like
Johnny Davis, you know from Wisconsin who were Big ten

(31:46):
and All American honors. Keegan Murray, a guy from you know, Iowa,
same same thing with him, you know more about him.
And you're talking about guys later on in you know,
in the in the lottery that you become familiar with it,
and Mike, I think that there was a point in
the NBA Draft where not only did we not know
who was even late in the lottery, we welren't even know.
I didn't even know who the guys were in the

(32:07):
first five picks. So I actually think this is this
is one of the early things that you're seeing a
little bit maybe more interest in the NBA Draft because
of what's happened in college basketball to get too interested
in that. I think it's a great thing. I'm more
interested in this draft than I have been maybe in
in previous other years because of the names that we
are going to see being picked on Thursday. Yeah, my
big ten homersm goes in. Right, you talk about Jade

(32:29):
and Ivy. You already mentioned Keegan Murray. I mean those
are two guys that you may have heard the names
enough in bracketology that you lived or died uh and
well died in your brackets based on what those teams did, right,
you got very excited uh and and rolled through. So yeah,
there's there's some of that. I mean, Imi Hawk is

(32:51):
coming back to U c. L A. Your point about
Timmy go back to Kentucky and sheep way right and
deciding you know, hey, I'm with Carolina. And also Pete
Nance is a graduate transfer Leeds Northwestern. Psychologically, I'm still
dealing with that. Fucky Brooks mocked me. We don't talk
a lot about a college basketball you know, at this

(33:12):
time of year, you know, on a Sunday morning, right,
there's so much going on, live action, waiting on the
US Open, all the vital round everything. He goes. You know,
we still Pete Nance from me, like, really, you're gonna
do this to be on air. I think it's great.
You know, like someone like Kegan Murray was rumored. Okay,
maybe that's who the vek around a DVA, the King's
owner really wants at number four, And I think that

(33:35):
there was more. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm only
just looking at through my eyes, but I think there's
something more to that. When maybe if you're a big
ten guy or an Iowa guy, you're being like, yeah,
Kegan Murray is the real deal. He should go to Sacramental.
Well you're hearing these other people say, how can you
do that? With Jade n Ivey would still be available,
what you know, Like what I mean, that's that's the

(33:56):
sort of conversations that I don't think we got in
the draft mic because I don't think we cared or
knew about the players as much um as we do
at least in this year. And I think that's transfer
Portland specifically name, image and likeness, giving some of us
a boost, giving us a bit of love. And obviously
what else do we get on Draft night? Rumor mills? Right,
Whether Draft Draft Day UH swaps come into fruition or not,

(34:20):
the rumor mill over the next forty eight hours will
be intense. We've got a few that include the Los
Angeles Lakers, one that, as you astutely pointed out, Hey,
that headline was really good in paragraph three you say that, well, nope,
just like the new movie coming out from Jordan Peele.
Nope right away. But we'll get into that next hour,
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