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Mike Harmon and Aaron Torres headed out to Las Vegas where tempers flared during a Raiders’ training camp practice. Is Taik Skubal heading back to the Detroit Tigers? And a crazy update on opposing fans buying up Akron football season tickets!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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You know, every time I come into the studio following
Rob Parker, I feel that much shorter because he's got
the what six' four frame long, legs so the seed
is high so he can be. Comfortable AND i feel
Like i'm four years old and someone's gonna spin me
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we Start Fox Sports. Radio on A friday, Night Mike
(00:50):
harmon Alongside Aaron Torres, No Jason smith tonight out. GALLIVANTING
i think south of The. Border nattery lied to. ME
i don't know either. Way he's having himself some fun
and some time. AWAY i and be back next. Week
i'll be off for a couple of days AS i
get ready to send my kid off to. College it's
musical chairs time here as we end the summer, season
(01:11):
because last night we had The hall Of Fame, game
which launches us fully into OUR nfl Slate College Football week,
zero just a couple of weeks. Away you got ads
getting chesty coaches talking out. There, hey welcome. In it's
A friday. Night we appreciate you being with us. Here
AS i said Eron, torres you hear Him saturday nights
(01:33):
Alongside Jason martin here on the. Network good enough to
come and hang out with us for four hours here
on a Beautiful friday.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Night, aaron good to.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
See it's been a minute since you AND i get
to chop it up plenty on The Sporting radar.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
TODAY i believe last TIME i was in with you
was during THE Ncaa. Tournament it was many moons, ago
so a.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Lot a long time. Ago it's a lot's. Transpired, Yeah Purdue.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
MIAMI i remember being a game on that we had
on here in The Fox Sports radio. Studio so, Yeah
i've done a lot of shows since. Then you And
jason have done a ton plus your your weekend. Stuff
so as, always it is a privilege to be in this.
Seat And i'll tell you what man doesn't feel like
there's really been that lull in the world of, sports
and it's only gonna ramp up here now that camps are.
(02:16):
Open we got fights breaking, out WHICH i know we're
gonna break down here at. Second there's a lot to.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Talk but, YEAH i, mean we have the glory of
The World, cup all the chaos around it in, tournament
and then certainly in the PostScript of what happens, next
let's sell off portions of rights and let's have boycotts
and let's ouse the president and all those kinds of.
Things so we got plenty of. That in other, words
(02:42):
another day in Feat.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Uh but you.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Mentioned the, fight and that's where we start the fight
In Las Vegas. Raiders we've got two stories for them
to both Involving Kirk. Cousins for, now we'll keep it
on the field and a little bit of the chaos
because you had a couple of circumstance chances Where Max,
crosby remember he was traded then he came, back may
still have some agitation and deciding to take it out
(03:06):
on the practice field as he Hit Kirk cousins twice
during the team period of today's, workouts and when he
Hit cousin's. Arm the second, Time Kirk cousins had, enough
got into his, face grabbed his, jersey exchanging some. Words,
maybe as we like to, say A Vin scully fertilizer
(03:27):
found its way in. There Clint kubiak, said, well it's
part of, camp but you gotta be smart when those situations.
Occur i'm, like, yeah, clearly but here you go two
leaders on our team going at. It obviously fighting in a.
Game you throw a punch of the, game you're, Out
so you gotta be. Smart it's LIKE i like that
downplaying of. It it's more so it's your quarterback and
it's your edge. Rusher it's the two most important guys
(03:50):
you got going except for when you do the two
step to jenty in the. Backfield you got to keep
these guys upright and, moving especially as we have the
moving piece of. Weather, yeah their long term ahead Of
mendoza eventually becoming the guy mid, season, postseason.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
WHATEVER i.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
MEAN i like the fire in the, belly don't get me,
wrong but Kirk cousins fighting THINGS i never thought i'd.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
See by the WAY i was gonna, say, yeah Kirk
cousins might not necessarily be the second most important player
in that building depending on how this season plays, out
or he might actually end up being, it which might
not be a good. Thing but at least right. Now, yes,
No And i'll tell YOU i had the exact same
thought that you. Did IS i have been Hosting Fox
Sports Radio National radio long enough to have done the
(04:34):
let's not overreact to a training camp fight. Segment this
is my eighth year At Fox Sports, radio SO i
have done it for eight consecutive. Summers with that, SAID
i do think it's a little bit different when your
best defensive player is going after the starting. Quarterback AND
i think there is a fine line of you don't
(04:55):
want to take away From Max crosby what makes Him Max,
crosby while also acknowledging that if you have any chance
to be even like a little bit half, decent we
probably don't want to. Kill And i'm using that, metaphorically
we don't want to injure is probably the better way
to put.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
There you go the projected at least four right, now
week one. Starter we know he might not be the
week one starter by or he might not be the
start by week, Two week, three week, four week, five
but probably not the move you want to make if
You're Max, crosby and AGAIN i understand you don't want
to take the edge that makes him the great player
that he. Is but maybe you pick on someone your own,
(05:31):
Size Max.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Crust, yeah it's just the curiosity as you're in AND
i get, it the, old the old rule of thumb
of they need to hit somebody. Else we're not that
far into. Camp, yes we don't do two days. Anymore
you're not out there grinding away the way you did
many years. Ago LIKE i, remember you, know doing training
camp tours twenty years ago WHEN i first started doing
(05:54):
some media, stuff and you'd have the eight am session
and then in the middle of a one hundred degrees
scorching heat In, Latrobe, pennsylvania they're back out. There guess,
what within ten, minutes they're trying to beat the hell
out of each other because one of them has, decided
if we do, this we can get ourselves kicked, out,
sure and we can finish our. Day the coaches were
(06:15):
smarter than. That there was no early, exits probably just
a couple extra sprints and maybe a little extended period.
There but the fact that you know there's multiple reports of,
hey before. Camp crosby was warned about, This, hey let's
not let's have repeats of the, past going back to
his college. Days he laughed and, said, well you used
(06:36):
to get kicked out of practice all the.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Time that's.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Fine AND i like the fire in the belly because
right even last, night AND i know a lot of
the talk we were talking With danny G, right working
With cavino And rich and the overreaction AND i use
that in quotes because that's all we got right. Now, sure,
right what we have to evaluate is here's some notes from,
practice here's Some subruta. Film maybe you're one of the
(07:00):
people that Watched Hard knocks of The Seattle. SEAHAWKS i
saw a billboard down the. Street i'm, like oh, YEAH
i forgot about.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
That, Okay So i'm not the only. ONE i knew what.
HAPPENED i just haven't carved out the.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Time. NO i saw a couple of.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Clips and we played A Sam darneldton because he was
reacting to The Lebron james. News, okay so it was
germane to the conversation we were. Having so we grabbed.
That but Otherwise Hard, KNOCKS i mean as soon AS
Dj moore and his. Family the most exciting thing was
them going to an ice cream museum when The bears were,
there and the word was that everybody In Hollis hall
didn't want any cursing because they wanted The bears to
(07:34):
look prim and proper as soon as those were the
two big notes coming out of that.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Camp Ben johnson not doing very well on that no swearing.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Policy, no, no not at. All and so you, know does.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
F The packers apply to that policy?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
After, no, no, no that that one's. Exempted that's WHAT i.
SAY i think you could say that as many times
as you.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Want especially when you beat.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Him but, yeah Call but that's the thing if you
if you take away some of that ownership That Aaron
rodgers used to talk back away from the that it.
Works but it's fun when we've got something that pops out,
right because this isn't a, makeup made up. Story this
is activity and hyperactivity in a camp for a team
(08:14):
that's projected win total is five and a. Half, Right
it's like going back to last night and The Carson
beck stuff talking about, Overreactionally, okay you're trying to sell, hope,
right that's what training camp and this new season is
by week, four you're gonna know how bad you.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Are but for the, moment if you got.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
A quarterback that looks like he could be your, guy
cool and The raiders With Kirk. Cousins whatever you feel
About Kirk cousins late in the, season postseason, whatever the
guy's had a pretty damn good. Career when it's all
said and done and you're looking to take that next
step THAT a TO b with a new, coach a new,
attitude some better. Players, now the offensive line is still
(08:54):
the giant question mark to all of, it but you've
got some solid skill position. Players you obviously have your
your key defensive player back on THE d line for
as long as he's, There And Kirk cousins is at
least as we we expect, it at least at this
point from what they're selling that he's starting your, season,
(09:16):
man which means let's at least get to opening day
before we.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Implode let me ask you, this what is your stance
On you have the number one, pick you stink forever
to get the quarterback that gives your franchise, hope and
then you're not gonna run him out. There, potentially we
don't know yet for, Sure but it looks Like Kirk
cousins will start the season as your starting. Quarterback do you?
(09:43):
Care is it a big, deal a little, deal no
deal to?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You to, me it's a no.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Deal LIKE i don't worry about the running clock of
the rookie contracts like everybody, Else, like all, right you paid,
him he's your. Guy when he gets on that, field
you want to make sure you're putting him in as
best a situation as you, can because if he's terrible
and you look around going, well it's clear that we
still had three of our five offensive line guys were.
(10:07):
Subpar we weren't fully rounded out at wide, receiver he
didn't necessarily grasp the game quite so, well are we
putting him in the best position to? Succeed and with
history's littered with, quarterbacks including with The raiders that have
never really been in that, Spot look at, GUY i
mean we mentioned The seahawks And Sam. Darnold all, right
(10:28):
he's a, jet he bounces, around gets some better, training
some better, ground and then now he's a Super bowl.
Champion now it's a convergence of, circumstance roster, building, whatever
and eventually you got to see What mendoz. Is but
one of the reasons you would bring in a guy
Like Kirk cousins is as a, mentor a guy who
(10:48):
recognizes where he's. At he's not ready to give it
up just, yet but recognizes That mendoz is. Coming so
why not lean into his, history his knowledge and if
men he knows is ready and you feel he's, Ready
and you Got brady, there who was Behind, bledsoe and
then he's he's been around long enough to see the
(11:10):
land mines from all these and look at his own
division for all those. Years look at how many times
they reset In miami and with The, jets and you,
know just going on down the line that you're, Like,
Okay i've watched these guys be forced into situations before
they were. Ready let's not do that. Here So i'm
of the old school. Camp i'm also the three yards
(11:31):
and a cloud of. Dust guys running backs getting paid
brings a little.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Tier there you. Go BUT i don't think he forced.
It what do you?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Think, NO i Think i've pivoted the deeper That i've
gotten into this thought experiment BECAUSE i was one FOREVER
i didn't think you should rush, Guys and then it.
Was actually it was IRONIC i was working WITH i
don't believe he works here. Anymore he may on the
weekend Sometimes Bucky, brooks who's.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Still sunday, morning still. Does He's Andy furman getting okay.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Early early more so he's like on four hours AFTER
i that's. Right, Yeah So i'm rarely up to hear
he got That Bernie bridge in That, yes The Bernie Frattlebridge.
Correig so, no AND i Remember bucky really selling me
on that clock is ticking with the rookie, quarterback and
SO i kind of. PIVOTED i was old school of
give him as much time as you, want or as
(12:18):
much time as you think he. NEEDS i was of
the belief that what did you lose all those games
for other than to get into position to take this.
Guy but the MORE i talk To raiders, fans we
did See DANNY g in the, hallways it's not Just DANNY.
G the more that they don't seem upset by the
possibility of not Seeing Fernando mendoza week. One and so
If raiders fans are, okay if they, say, hey we've
(12:43):
seen a lot of losses the last twenty five. Years
if we have to see four or five more before
we get To mendoza and he's. Ready to your, point
it's not the worst. THING i just think it's very
interesting because very rarely do we get these, circumstances especially
with young quarterbacks that are drafted this. High be really,
quick And i'll toss it back to, you but what
do we have six quarterbacks go in the top eleven or.
(13:05):
TWELVE a couple of years, ago they all Played week
one except For, pennix WHO i believe there was that
whole situation ironically With Kurk, cutters but all the other ones,
Played so that to me is just it's just interesting
that The raiders are willing to take this, approach AND
i don't hate, it especially now That i'm talking to
more and More raiders fans as we get closer to the.
(13:26):
Season i'm just surprised given recent, history everyone feeling the
need to play rookie quarterbacks right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Away, YEAH i just think that OLD u the contract
clock thing to me is just it's A it's not
a terrible, argument but it's it's lesser for me because of, all,
right is the player, ready but is your team? Ready
because If i'm gonna put him in and he's gonna.
Fail and, Look i've always been a believer of if
it's gonna ruin his, Confidence i'm not worried about the,
(13:55):
confidence worried about physically development and development and. Whatever right
do you get into really bad habits because it's that
you're not ready and whatever. Else but it's it's just
that idea of going into what's presumably a lost. Year like,
again five and a half is your win total in
a very difficult, division no.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Doubt so you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Growth SO i understand the logic, of, well what do
we got to? Lose but if it's now proven that
he's not your, guy now it's all bets are off
and we're back to the drawing.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Board, sure, anyway SO i could see both sides of.
It but you brought in Kirk.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Cousins so at this, point why would you not Give
mendoza every opportunity to prove he's learned whatever behind the
scenes you need to put him in the best position to.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Succeed, yeah AND i GUESS i. WOULD i GUESS i
would just put a bow on it by saying Kirk
cousins at his age and, frankly with his injury, history as,
well but mostly with his. Age, like he's not a
threat to be so good that you you, like won't.
Like there probably aren't a ton of, examples But i'm
sure there are some examples of you play the older,
(15:06):
guy he ends up being better than you. Think then
it's hard to make that. TRANSITION i don't Think Kirk
cousin's body will physically hold up over seventeen, games you,
know knock on. WOOD i Hope i'm. Wrong i'm not
rooting for, injury but bigger, picture he's probably not the
guy that's gonna Stunt mendoza's growth too long by being
too good where you can eventually turn it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Over, YEAH i mean the only other recent example of
the we we drafted a guy in the first. Round
it goes back to the wonderful world In Green. BAY
i was a big believer of eventually you've got to
have a succession. Plan, Yeah so when they Drafted Jordan
love and everybody was upset about, it going why didn't
you do this that the? Other eventually father time, Comes
Aaron rodgers kept doing The i'm gonna, Retire i'm not
(15:47):
with lo and behold here he is still quarterbacking in
twenty twenty, six but you had a year where when
he got hurt you had to go To Brent. Huntley
i'm sorry That Brent huntley has to take the incoming once,
again but you had no succession plan and, readiness and
you got two MVPs out Of Aaron rodgers before it
was all said and. Done in this, case you're not
(16:08):
looking at that For. Kirk it's just the easier. Bridge
can he give you a chance to win a couple
of games and show where potential weaknesses. Are obviously far
more mobile Is, mendoza and it's even more. EXACERBATED i
don't know if you've seen the video Of Captain kirk
try to do a couple of. Sprints it's make me
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Off it is the.
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There my younger, daughter who's getting ready to go to,
college said, hey can we take a day? Off and
then she immediately, said, Hey i'm gonna play in this
Soccer like, okay come, on like all, Right we're gonna
take a couple of days. Off and it's, like, nah
there's still some soccer to be had before she heads
out to you know, what play more.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Soccer but enough of. That you.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Know one of the big stories that's still pervasive across
the sporting. Universes we've got The, dodgers right and losers
of six. Straight they're they're promoing this Cool Clayton kershaw,
bobblehead WHICH i will need to procure one of. That
AND i want The Reggie smith that they're gonna give
out next. Week Maybe i'm a, nerd BUT i, MEAN
i love all the new, guys the recent. Guys you,
(19:21):
know you can never have enough O' tawni, Memorabilia but
A Reggie smith?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Bobblehead come, on who doesn't want one of?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Those talking about one of the. Greats but my most obscure,
bobblehead what do you? Got is it A Mike? Carmon
do you have?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
One it's actually even more obscure Than Mike. Carmen And
i'm not saying you're. Obscure you Know i'm. Obscure, Okay
So Chris, paul of, course is a long Time Los Angeles.
Clipper if you may or may not, remember there was
an alter ego Named Cliff Paul cliff With State. Farm,
yeah they gave out A Cliff paul, bobblehead AND i
(19:57):
have one. Life, YEAH i wouldn't joke about a bobble
head that up Scure, NOW i mean.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Curious i'm curious as to what the secondary market's just
the for the Cliff. Paul, Meanwhile i'll set up this.
Story trek scoogbl joins The. Dodgers great. RATINGS i know.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
This is something you.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Know we talked television ratings and and what what are
drivers the game against The. Cubs great, ratings, cable great,
cables great ratings locally and certainly for our flagship here
In Los ANGELES am five to seven E La. SPORTS
a lot of people tune it in for his. Effort
he gave you the six, innings they take the l
(20:37):
the second run that he, allowed he allowed To homer To,
swanson and then there was A chopper couldn't make the.
Play you could argue runner interference either. Way The dodgers
end up losing the. Game but what was meaty about
it is going back to last week as trade winds
were swirling and everybody's photoshopping, him and you want to
(20:57):
know what the best story might. Be certainly he ends
up In Los angeles and the sky is falling radio
and hot takery begins once. AGAIN i like the idea
of him going to The brewers citing THE Cc sabbathia
move all those years, ago or going to The Tampa Bay,
rays take your, shot whatever the case. WAS i was
(21:18):
trying to make the case for the. Pirates, hey you're
at the edge of the wild, card go make a.
Move maybe something can happen. There but he ends up A.
Dodger but now it becomes the all, right at, present
he is a rental. Right he was on a one,
year thirty six million dollar. Deal scoopbl doing an interview earlier,
today kind of talking about you know which way the wind.
(21:41):
Blows always reminder that his agent Is Scott. Boris so
we have the potential of a, Lockout we have the
potential of all of this chaos and what needs to
happen to get back to work. Well schooble talking about his,
future he left a lot of doors.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
OPEN i would love to play my whole career In.
DETROIT i would love To and hopefully those negotiations can
pick back up In, november you, know once the playoffs are,
done and we'll see where that. Goes you, know hopefully
they're involved with. Everything you, KNOW i would love to.
RETURN i got nothing but good things to say about
the city Of, detroit and you, know the, manager the,
coaching the, staff the, trainers the teammates, like, yeah it's,
(22:19):
tough you, know And i'm going to try not to
cry right, now but, YEAH i MEAN i love all those.
Guys so hopefully they're involved In november and you, know
we'll see what.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Happens then talked about, family talk about history and the
light that he had. There we talked about it a
lot when it comes to the draft and prospects and
trying to evaluate it, all remembering he was a twenty
ninth round draft. Pick didn't want to do, IT i, said,
blank this went back into the draft when he goes
To detroit still a ninth round draft, pick and this
(22:50):
is what you. Have so when you're looking at the
prospect returns that you have in all of these processes
and what you saw go down at the trade, deadline
you know you're selling. Hope and in this, case literally
it was a guy Named hope that went back To
detroit in that. Deal they eventually Traded maze to The
padres and still find themselves in the mix BECAUSE i
(23:13):
do a weekly spot In baltimore where now all of a,
sudden they're a game out of a wild card spot
and they made the big move to Trade Adlee. Rushman
that left people trying to weigh you, know that move
in a, vacuum but while you're still. Competitive it's a difficult.
Thing right In, detroit we played the clip of THEIR
(23:34):
tv broadcast crew, going, look we're two and a half
games out of out of a spot here five and
a half out of the. DIVISION i don't try to
make sense of it like that was the gist of
it From benetti And company on the television, Side but
for school it just opened, going, look the opportunity, came
this was the. Trade everybody had a chance to come get.
(23:56):
Me very pragmatic in how he's approached, it but makes
bones about how much he loved the organization and. Teammates
do we think he's getting out Of Los? Angeles, no
especially when your agent is the guy who historically is
who's paying me the plus one. Dollars but just a
reminder that there is the human element to all of
(24:17):
this and not all these guys are. Mercenaries with every
move that gets.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Made, well he said all the right, things because why,
NOT i, mean, yeah, yeah they'll be on the mix.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Ball, well you just want as much quote competition for
your services as you.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Gain, yeah and at some point he'll go back and
they'll honor him after he retires. Whatever if he really
wanted to go, back you think that The tigers would
have tried a little bit harder to get some players
that can actually help them win baseball games here in
the coming. Years When Trek scouoble couldn't theory be back
and The sega was on air with me On saturday
(24:56):
night when this all, broke some of the audience may
have heard our. Take my take at the time is
just it was unbelievable being on air when the trade,
happened because you have the immediate, reaction then you have
the Anti dodger, sentiment and then you have the oh
that's all they had to give up to get. Him
why couldn't anybody put together a better? Package and so
(25:18):
that's part now that plays into the conversation of What
Trek skouble said today of, oh, Yeah i'd love to
consider them In november When i'm a free agent. Again, okay,
cool what is the team that you are going to
be coming back to, hypothetically of, course relative to the
team that you just. Left so to, me he said
all the right. Things it moves the story. FORWARD i
(25:39):
think in some ways it closes The detroit, chapter which
we all expected to close at some point around the trade.
DEADLINE i know people are. FRUSTRATED i don't know That
this particular, quote, though makes me feel super confident that
Come december, first if there is a free agency, period
that he will end up back being A Detroit.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Tiger, nah you gotta tell everybody that you loved. Him of,
course you know it's not, you it's. Me it's this
crazy business that we're. In you could blame The Detroit, tigers,
RIGHT i think that's a lot of, it he. GOES
i love the guys, there but there's also just that
gap that, is you, know they could have retained me
if they really paid me an exorbitant amount of money
(26:20):
over a long term. Deal and as we've watched with hitters,
pictures happy, Birthday Mike trout by the, way and his
home run streak that he's, got you, know he's got
six on his, birthday all of those. Things he didn't get,
traded but evidently was in the meetings about guys getting
shipped out out of The angeldom where we Watched Joe
(26:42):
adell as part of The Cleveland guardians earlier as they
beat my Beloved White sox skid of their own but
he got hit by two pitches. Today but it's all
of those just all. Right you have the opportunity to
say what you want to do if you were that
biggest star and how much is? Money and we talked
(27:03):
about this with THE, nba Right Lebron james and his.
Decision who how big was that?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Market?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Really, well we know for school in, theory everybody wants
a bite at the. Apple but the reality is in the,
end whether there's some quid pro quo to be had
long term of people that want to hear miss l
again about all the teams that missed a huge window. Keeping,
no but but that's but that's part of, it. Right
(27:29):
it's like what was the market Really and it's like
getting to the center of the touccy roll. Pop the
world will never, know right because this is the deal
that got. Done like the rest of what could have
should have, been be it The, brewers be at The,
rays be at any other. Contender we don't know for
real what the package. Was we just know what he went.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
For let me ask you, This, yeah do you think
that he was moved to The, dodgers either one because
of something super nefarious that you know behind the scenes
there's something going, on or two because you know it's
semi clear that that's probably in a perfect world where
he wanted to. Be because the one thing THAT i
(28:12):
couldn't reconcile in real time was why you had to
take that trade package at that moment in time On
saturday night when the trade deadline wasn't Until. Monday AND
i know we've got some additional reporting since, then But
i'm just curious why you think he went for what
he did when he did when in a worst case,
scenario that offer was still going to be on the
(28:34):
table On monday for you to get if you wanted
to move To Tek.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
School, well at some point you've got to, pivot, right
the all these other, teams right and if your trade
offers are, rejected The rays go and Get Freddie. Peralta, okay,
fine did they pivot or was he no longer? Available
but that's but that's the question of you, know the
chicken in the, egg right is you know we from
reports they weren't fielding any in dealing with it Till.
(29:01):
Saturday is this the Rich paul he leave me a
voicemail and maybe we'll respond to. You that was a
narrative for a minute or, two right with The Lebron
James World tour or whatever might have been in terms
of what was real imagine in terms of his. Marketplace
but the same thing here of where you already told,
no because the idea That, hey he was going to
(29:25):
go to The dodgers anyway just fails on a million.
Levels if The tigers are losing him and they're resigned
to he's not coming back here at least to finish this,
season like we need to go get something because remember
the Show Hey tani stuff with The. Angels i'll always
argue you had Already, moreno didn't want to lose half
a season Of japanese advertising sure, money so he was
(29:49):
resigned to while we still had hope in theory on
some small minuscule level that Show hey would still pick,
us but it was also a lot of money that
was going to go back with the school. Thing they, decided,
WELL i guess he's gonna leave. It we're not doing
it holding the, bag as opposed to let's run this,
out BECAUSE i argued that they should have just said forget.
(30:10):
It keep him In. Mize you brought In valdez and
run it as best you can because The al is certainly, vulnerable,
right the soft underbelly is. There Red sox may never lose.
Again but you know The, yankees you've still got questions
in their batting. Order and they shuffled up In dealton and,
fine they made a move And GARCIA i, like but
(30:32):
they Said dmngus And volpe beat it and they bring Up.
Lombard he hits a home. Run it's almost like that
of a. Movie but The rays are, good not. Great
we all know where where we are in terms of
their own. Division White sox have overachieved and they hold.
On it's a beautiful, story don't get me, Wrong but
(30:55):
is there enough pitching For, August, september In? October if
you got to know The royal stink and you just
look at your division was still there to go. Get
so you decided to pivot and make this deal LIKE
i would have run its course and ridden it like
it's a horse That i'm in the final furlong and
(31:16):
CAN i get him to the finish? Line the answer
IS i don't. Know but instead you traded, him and
you traded myz to The. Padres, YEAH i just if
you felt like you had to make a. TRADE i
just find it super hard to believe that that was
the best thing you could have gotten with thirty six
hours left before the. Death, yeah so you could either
go tinfoil hat if this had to, happen because this
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is the way baseball gets to its inevitable salary, cap
and that's what folks.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Are arguing to some.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Degree but the idea, that all, right we make the
deal with The dodgers absent other deals in the future
because he wanted to do that and we wanted to
make him feel good about, himself to, me is the
worst Logic i've. Heard, Now, oh he was gonna go there,
anyway so let's trade him.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
THERE i just think it was a bad trade and
incompetence more than. Anything but that's the part THAT i
can't reconcile is why did you have to make that
trade On saturday?
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Night?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Saturday that's that's my only. Point AND i don't think
there's something super conspiratorial going. On THE mlb wants The
dodgers to, win or The tigers want to get into a. Lockout.
Whatever i'm just saying that's the part that doesn't make
sense why you had to make that move at that.
Moment with again about thirty six hours before the extra On.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
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Update one of the great stories earlier in the week
was The Akron zips giving you the opportunity to become
the offensive coordinator for a. Series it sparked a little
bit of, outrage but it also got people to pony
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the arcane. Rules if we can't do it until they're a.
Final we got some updates everybody. Else it's, like how
quickly can we get that touchdown turned? Around how quickly
can we get that?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Goal? Baseball, yeah wait for the game to.
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End as someone who has Hosted Red Zone radio a
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Buddy but the idea of having to wait until the
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every Single, sunday at least in the early and afternoon,
windows it's a litt. Crazy it's.
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Bam it's just like. That and by the end of
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guys a gift certificate to, say like A Burke william
so you can decompress a little, bit get the you,
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Speaker 4 (35:25):
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Speaker 5 (35:26):
Is you never have a shift go by faster, Though
i'll tell you, that, no that is.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
True there is no. Blinking there is no time for bathroom,
breaks long coffee, breaks whatever food shows. Up when it,
does you hear a knock on the door and you
open it and there's a bag waiting for, you talking
about football and good stuff and to, me one of
the great. Promotions you AND i were talking about this
a little bit before we came on, air the nil
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world of trying to find moneies and benefactors wherever you.
Can how we were talking about the guy that did
the play by play for an inning off an auction
for The Philly foundation.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yesterday but The.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Akron, zips they sold out their stadium suites for the
first time in forever in their team. History because they
have the offensive coordinator of the game, promotion someone's gonna
get a chance to script the opening drive for The
september twelfth home opener Against Robert, morris AND i saw
some thought pieces of this is you've ruined the sanctity
(36:22):
of the. Game it's, like the hell with, that you know,
What put a microphone on, them let them do two,
series have another winner show up that you got an
over under of three and a half. Wins you're trying
to drive some interest in your program and bring some
revenue in to where you can go and recruit another
player or five to keep. Building it's like you, know
(36:43):
hitting a parlay and you know winning a bet and
saying all, Right i'm going to parlay that let it ride.
Whatever you're at a table, game same thing here Of
if you got this and you sold out that, fast
you got to figure out what the next incentivizer is
to keep that money.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Flowing the holding Of Old miss was asked AT Sec
Media days about tampering and he basically, said it's not
as though recruiting in college football was always the most sanctimonious.
Thing if you're frustrated about the world of, this finds
something better to go, Outside touch, grass get some.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Sun this is a cool. Promo Akron, Zips i'll cheer
for them this. Year He's Aeron torres and For Jason,
Smith I'm Mike. Harmon coming up, next we'll turn our
attention back to the world of A National Football.
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i'll be off for a couple of days AS i
get ready to send my kid off to. College it's
musical chairs time here as we end the summer, season
(01:11):
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zero just a couple of weeks. Away you got ads
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Night, aaron good to.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
See it's been a minute since you AND i get
to chop it up plenty on The Sporting radar.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
TODAY i believe last TIME i was in with you
was during THE Ncaa. Tournament it was many moons, ago
so a.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Lot a long time. Ago it's a lot's. Transpired, Yeah Purdue.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
MIAMI i remember being a game on that we had
on here in The Fox Sports radio. Studio so, Yeah
i've done a lot of shows since. Then you And
jason have done a ton plus your your weekend. Stuff
so as, always it is a privilege to be in this.
Seat And i'll tell you what man doesn't feel like
there's really been that lull in the world of, sports
and it's only gonna ramp up here now that camps are.
(02:16):
Open we got fights breaking, out WHICH i know we're
gonna break down here at. Second there's a lot to.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Talk but, YEAH i, mean we have the glory of
The World, cup all the chaos around it in, tournament
and then certainly in the PostScript of what happens, next
let's sell off portions of rights and let's have boycotts
and let's ouse the president and all those kinds of.
Things so we got plenty of. That in other, words
(02:42):
another day in Feat.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Uh but you.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Mentioned the, fight and that's where we start the fight
In Las Vegas. Raiders we've got two stories for them
to both Involving Kirk. Cousins for, now we'll keep it
on the field and a little bit of the chaos
because you had a couple of circumstance chances Where Max,
crosby remember he was traded then he came, back may
still have some agitation and deciding to take it out
(03:06):
on the practice field as he Hit Kirk cousins twice
during the team period of today's, workouts and when he
Hit cousin's. Arm the second, Time Kirk cousins had, enough
got into his, face grabbed his, jersey exchanging some. Words,
maybe as we like to, say A Vin scully fertilizer
(03:27):
found its way in. There Clint kubiak, said, well it's
part of, camp but you gotta be smart when those situations.
Occur i'm, like, yeah, clearly but here you go two
leaders on our team going at. It obviously fighting in a.
Game you throw a punch of the, game you're, Out
so you gotta be. Smart it's LIKE i like that
downplaying of. It it's more so it's your quarterback and
it's your edge. Rusher it's the two most important guys
(03:50):
you got going except for when you do the two
step to jenty in the. Backfield you got to keep
these guys upright and, moving especially as we have the
moving piece of. Weather, yeah their long term ahead Of
mendoza eventually becoming the guy mid, season, postseason.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
WHATEVER i.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
MEAN i like the fire in the, belly don't get me,
wrong but Kirk cousins fighting THINGS i never thought i'd.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
See by the WAY i was gonna, say, yeah Kirk
cousins might not necessarily be the second most important player
in that building depending on how this season plays, out
or he might actually end up being, it which might
not be a good. Thing but at least right. Now, yes,
No And i'll tell YOU i had the exact same
thought that you. Did IS i have been Hosting Fox
Sports Radio National radio long enough to have done the
(04:34):
let's not overreact to a training camp fight. Segment this
is my eighth year At Fox Sports, radio SO i
have done it for eight consecutive. Summers with that, SAID
i do think it's a little bit different when your
best defensive player is going after the starting. Quarterback AND
i think there is a fine line of you don't
(04:55):
want to take away From Max crosby what makes Him Max,
crosby while also acknowledging that if you have any chance
to be even like a little bit half, decent we
probably don't want to. Kill And i'm using that, metaphorically
we don't want to injure is probably the better way
to put.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
There you go the projected at least four right, now
week one. Starter we know he might not be the
week one starter by or he might not be the
start by week, Two week, three week, four week, five
but probably not the move you want to make if
You're Max, crosby and AGAIN i understand you don't want
to take the edge that makes him the great player
that he. Is but maybe you pick on someone your own,
(05:31):
Size Max.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Crust, yeah it's just the curiosity as you're in AND
i get, it the, old the old rule of thumb
of they need to hit somebody. Else we're not that
far into. Camp, yes we don't do two days. Anymore
you're not out there grinding away the way you did
many years. Ago LIKE i, remember you, know doing training
camp tours twenty years ago WHEN i first started doing
(05:54):
some media, stuff and you'd have the eight am session
and then in the middle of a one hundred degrees
scorching heat In, Latrobe, pennsylvania they're back out. There guess,
what within ten, minutes they're trying to beat the hell
out of each other because one of them has, decided
if we do, this we can get ourselves kicked, out,
sure and we can finish our. Day the coaches were
(06:15):
smarter than. That there was no early, exits probably just
a couple extra sprints and maybe a little extended period.
There but the fact that you know there's multiple reports of,
hey before. Camp crosby was warned about, This, hey let's
not let's have repeats of the, past going back to
his college. Days he laughed and, said, well you used
(06:36):
to get kicked out of practice all the.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Time that's.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Fine AND i like the fire in the belly because
right even last, night AND i know a lot of
the talk we were talking With danny G, right working
With cavino And rich and the overreaction AND i use
that in quotes because that's all we got right. Now, sure,
right what we have to evaluate is here's some notes from,
practice here's Some subruta. Film maybe you're one of the
(07:00):
people that Watched Hard knocks of The Seattle. SEAHAWKS i
saw a billboard down the. Street i'm, like oh, YEAH
i forgot about.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
That, Okay So i'm not the only. ONE i knew what.
HAPPENED i just haven't carved out the.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Time. NO i saw a couple of.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Clips and we played A Sam darneldton because he was
reacting to The Lebron james. News, okay so it was
germane to the conversation we were. Having so we grabbed.
That but Otherwise Hard, KNOCKS i mean as soon AS
Dj moore and his. Family the most exciting thing was
them going to an ice cream museum when The bears were,
there and the word was that everybody In Hollis hall
didn't want any cursing because they wanted The bears to
(07:34):
look prim and proper as soon as those were the
two big notes coming out of that.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Camp Ben johnson not doing very well on that no swearing.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Policy, no, no not at. All and so you, know does.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
F The packers apply to that policy?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
After, no, no, no that that one's. Exempted that's WHAT i.
SAY i think you could say that as many times
as you.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Want especially when you beat.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Him but, yeah Call but that's the thing if you
if you take away some of that ownership That Aaron
rodgers used to talk back away from the that it.
Works but it's fun when we've got something that pops out,
right because this isn't a, makeup made up. Story this
is activity and hyperactivity in a camp for a team
(08:14):
that's projected win total is five and a. Half, Right
it's like going back to last night and The Carson
beck stuff talking about, Overreactionally, okay you're trying to sell, hope,
right that's what training camp and this new season is
by week, four you're gonna know how bad you.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Are but for the, moment if you got.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
A quarterback that looks like he could be your, guy
cool and The raiders With Kirk. Cousins whatever you feel
About Kirk cousins late in the, season postseason, whatever the
guy's had a pretty damn good. Career when it's all
said and done and you're looking to take that next
step THAT a TO b with a new, coach a new,
attitude some better. Players, now the offensive line is still
(08:54):
the giant question mark to all of, it but you've
got some solid skill position. Players you obviously have your
your key defensive player back on THE d line for
as long as he's, There And Kirk cousins is at
least as we we expect, it at least at this
point from what they're selling that he's starting your, season,
(09:16):
man which means let's at least get to opening day
before we.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Implode let me ask you, this what is your stance
On you have the number one, pick you stink forever
to get the quarterback that gives your franchise, hope and
then you're not gonna run him out. There, potentially we
don't know yet for, Sure but it looks Like Kirk
cousins will start the season as your starting. Quarterback do you?
(09:43):
Care is it a big, deal a little, deal no
deal to?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You to, me it's a no.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Deal LIKE i don't worry about the running clock of
the rookie contracts like everybody, Else, like all, right you paid,
him he's your. Guy when he gets on that, field
you want to make sure you're putting him in as
best a situation as you, can because if he's terrible
and you look around going, well it's clear that we
still had three of our five offensive line guys were.
(10:07):
Subpar we weren't fully rounded out at wide, receiver he
didn't necessarily grasp the game quite so, well are we
putting him in the best position to? Succeed and with
history's littered with, quarterbacks including with The raiders that have
never really been in that, Spot look at, GUY i
mean we mentioned The seahawks And Sam. Darnold all, right
(10:28):
he's a, jet he bounces, around gets some better, training
some better, ground and then now he's a Super bowl.
Champion now it's a convergence of, circumstance roster, building, whatever
and eventually you got to see What mendoz. Is but
one of the reasons you would bring in a guy
Like Kirk cousins is as a, mentor a guy who
(10:48):
recognizes where he's. At he's not ready to give it
up just, yet but recognizes That mendoz is. Coming so
why not lean into his, history his knowledge and if
men he knows is ready and you feel he's, Ready
and you Got brady, there who was Behind, bledsoe and
then he's he's been around long enough to see the
(11:10):
land mines from all these and look at his own
division for all those. Years look at how many times
they reset In miami and with The, jets and you,
know just going on down the line that you're, Like,
Okay i've watched these guys be forced into situations before
they were. Ready let's not do that. Here So i'm
of the old school. Camp i'm also the three yards
(11:31):
and a cloud of. Dust guys running backs getting paid
brings a little.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Tier there you. Go BUT i don't think he forced.
It what do you?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Think, NO i Think i've pivoted the deeper That i've
gotten into this thought experiment BECAUSE i was one FOREVER
i didn't think you should rush, Guys and then it.
Was actually it was IRONIC i was working WITH i
don't believe he works here. Anymore he may on the
weekend Sometimes Bucky, brooks who's.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Still sunday, morning still. Does He's Andy furman getting okay.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Early early more so he's like on four hours AFTER
i that's. Right, Yeah So i'm rarely up to hear
he got That Bernie bridge in That, yes The Bernie Frattlebridge.
Correig so, no AND i Remember bucky really selling me
on that clock is ticking with the rookie, quarterback and
SO i kind of. PIVOTED i was old school of
give him as much time as you, want or as
(12:18):
much time as you think he. NEEDS i was of
the belief that what did you lose all those games
for other than to get into position to take this.
Guy but the MORE i talk To raiders, fans we
did See DANNY g in the, hallways it's not Just DANNY.
G the more that they don't seem upset by the
possibility of not Seeing Fernando mendoza week. One and so
If raiders fans are, okay if they, say, hey we've
(12:43):
seen a lot of losses the last twenty five. Years
if we have to see four or five more before
we get To mendoza and he's. Ready to your, point
it's not the worst. THING i just think it's very
interesting because very rarely do we get these, circumstances especially
with young quarterbacks that are drafted this. High be really,
quick And i'll toss it back to, you but what
do we have six quarterbacks go in the top eleven or.
(13:05):
TWELVE a couple of years, ago they all Played week
one except For, pennix WHO i believe there was that
whole situation ironically With Kurk, cutters but all the other ones,
Played so that to me is just it's just interesting
that The raiders are willing to take this, approach AND
i don't hate, it especially now That i'm talking to
more and More raiders fans as we get closer to the.
(13:26):
Season i'm just surprised given recent, history everyone feeling the
need to play rookie quarterbacks right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Away, YEAH i just think that OLD u the contract
clock thing to me is just it's A it's not
a terrible, argument but it's it's lesser for me because of, all,
right is the player, ready but is your team? Ready
because If i'm gonna put him in and he's gonna.
Fail and, Look i've always been a believer of if
it's gonna ruin his, Confidence i'm not worried about the,
(13:55):
confidence worried about physically development and development and. Whatever right
do you get into really bad habits because it's that
you're not ready and whatever. Else but it's it's just
that idea of going into what's presumably a lost. Year like,
again five and a half is your win total in
a very difficult, division no.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Doubt so you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Growth SO i understand the logic, of, well what do
we got to? Lose but if it's now proven that
he's not your, guy now it's all bets are off
and we're back to the drawing.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Board, sure, anyway SO i could see both sides of.
It but you brought in Kirk.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Cousins so at this, point why would you not Give
mendoza every opportunity to prove he's learned whatever behind the
scenes you need to put him in the best position to.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Succeed, yeah AND i GUESS i. WOULD i GUESS i
would just put a bow on it by saying Kirk
cousins at his age and, frankly with his injury, history as,
well but mostly with his. Age, like he's not a
threat to be so good that you you, like won't.
Like there probably aren't a ton of, examples But i'm
sure there are some examples of you play the older,
(15:06):
guy he ends up being better than you. Think then
it's hard to make that. TRANSITION i don't Think Kirk
cousin's body will physically hold up over seventeen, games you,
know knock on. WOOD i Hope i'm. Wrong i'm not
rooting for, injury but bigger, picture he's probably not the
guy that's gonna Stunt mendoza's growth too long by being
too good where you can eventually turn it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Over, YEAH i mean the only other recent example of
the we we drafted a guy in the first. Round
it goes back to the wonderful world In Green. BAY
i was a big believer of eventually you've got to
have a succession. Plan, Yeah so when they Drafted Jordan
love and everybody was upset about, it going why didn't
you do this that the? Other eventually father time, Comes
Aaron rodgers kept doing The i'm gonna, Retire i'm not
(15:47):
with lo and behold here he is still quarterbacking in
twenty twenty, six but you had a year where when
he got hurt you had to go To Brent. Huntley
i'm sorry That Brent huntley has to take the incoming once,
again but you had no succession plan and, readiness and
you got two MVPs out Of Aaron rodgers before it
was all said and. Done in this, case you're not
(16:08):
looking at that For. Kirk it's just the easier. Bridge
can he give you a chance to win a couple
of games and show where potential weaknesses. Are obviously far
more mobile Is, mendoza and it's even more. EXACERBATED i
don't know if you've seen the video Of Captain kirk
try to do a couple of. Sprints it's make me
me feel. Spry Aaron Underscore. Tours where you find him
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he did an interview and might have folks scratching their
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here On Fox Sports.
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you hear Him saturday nights Alongside Jason martin here On
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here each and every Night, Sunday i'm actually taking a day.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Off it is the.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
There my younger, daughter who's getting ready to go to,
college said, hey can we take a day? Off and
then she immediately, said, Hey i'm gonna play in this
Soccer like, okay come, on like all, Right we're gonna
take a couple of days. Off and it's, like, nah
there's still some soccer to be had before she heads
out to you know, what play more.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Soccer but enough of. That you.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Know one of the big stories that's still pervasive across
the sporting. Universes we've got The, dodgers right and losers
of six. Straight they're they're promoing this Cool Clayton kershaw,
bobblehead WHICH i will need to procure one of. That
AND i want The Reggie smith that they're gonna give
out next. Week Maybe i'm a, nerd BUT i, MEAN
i love all the new, guys the recent. Guys you,
(19:21):
know you can never have enough O' tawni, Memorabilia but
A Reggie smith?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Bobblehead come, on who doesn't want one of?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Those talking about one of the. Greats but my most obscure,
bobblehead what do you? Got is it A Mike? Carmon
do you have?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
One it's actually even more obscure Than Mike. Carmen And
i'm not saying you're. Obscure you Know i'm. Obscure, Okay
So Chris, paul of, course is a long Time Los Angeles.
Clipper if you may or may not, remember there was
an alter ego Named Cliff Paul cliff With State. Farm,
yeah they gave out A Cliff paul, bobblehead AND i
(19:57):
have one. Life, YEAH i wouldn't joke about a bobble
head that up Scure, NOW i mean.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Curious i'm curious as to what the secondary market's just
the for the Cliff. Paul, Meanwhile i'll set up this.
Story trek scoogbl joins The. Dodgers great. RATINGS i know.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
This is something you.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Know we talked television ratings and and what what are
drivers the game against The. Cubs great, ratings, cable great,
cables great ratings locally and certainly for our flagship here
In Los ANGELES am five to seven E La. SPORTS
a lot of people tune it in for his. Effort
he gave you the six, innings they take the l
(20:37):
the second run that he, allowed he allowed To homer To,
swanson and then there was A chopper couldn't make the.
Play you could argue runner interference either. Way The dodgers
end up losing the. Game but what was meaty about
it is going back to last week as trade winds
were swirling and everybody's photoshopping, him and you want to
(20:57):
know what the best story might. Be certainly he ends
up In Los angeles and the sky is falling radio
and hot takery begins once. AGAIN i like the idea
of him going to The brewers citing THE Cc sabbathia
move all those years, ago or going to The Tampa Bay,
rays take your, shot whatever the case. WAS i was
(21:18):
trying to make the case for the. Pirates, hey you're
at the edge of the wild, card go make a.
Move maybe something can happen. There but he ends up A.
Dodger but now it becomes the all, right at, present
he is a rental. Right he was on a one,
year thirty six million dollar. Deal scoopbl doing an interview earlier,
today kind of talking about you know which way the wind.
(21:41):
Blows always reminder that his agent Is Scott. Boris so
we have the potential of a, Lockout we have the
potential of all of this chaos and what needs to
happen to get back to work. Well schooble talking about his,
future he left a lot of doors.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
OPEN i would love to play my whole career In.
DETROIT i would love To and hopefully those negotiations can
pick back up In, november you, know once the playoffs are,
done and we'll see where that. Goes you, know hopefully
they're involved with. Everything you, KNOW i would love to.
RETURN i got nothing but good things to say about
the city Of, detroit and you, know the, manager the,
coaching the, staff the, trainers the teammates, like, yeah it's,
(22:19):
tough you, know And i'm going to try not to
cry right, now but, YEAH i MEAN i love all those.
Guys so hopefully they're involved In november and you, know
we'll see what.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Happens then talked about, family talk about history and the
light that he had. There we talked about it a
lot when it comes to the draft and prospects and
trying to evaluate it, all remembering he was a twenty
ninth round draft. Pick didn't want to do, IT i, said,
blank this went back into the draft when he goes
To detroit still a ninth round draft, pick and this
(22:50):
is what you. Have so when you're looking at the
prospect returns that you have in all of these processes
and what you saw go down at the trade, deadline
you know you're selling. Hope and in this, case literally
it was a guy Named hope that went back To
detroit in that. Deal they eventually Traded maze to The
padres and still find themselves in the mix BECAUSE i
(23:13):
do a weekly spot In baltimore where now all of a,
sudden they're a game out of a wild card spot
and they made the big move to Trade Adlee. Rushman
that left people trying to weigh you, know that move
in a, vacuum but while you're still. Competitive it's a difficult.
Thing right In, detroit we played the clip of THEIR
(23:34):
tv broadcast crew, going, look we're two and a half
games out of out of a spot here five and
a half out of the. DIVISION i don't try to
make sense of it like that was the gist of
it From benetti And company on the television, Side but
for school it just opened, going, look the opportunity, came
this was the. Trade everybody had a chance to come get.
(23:56):
Me very pragmatic in how he's approached, it but makes
bones about how much he loved the organization and. Teammates
do we think he's getting out Of Los? Angeles, no
especially when your agent is the guy who historically is
who's paying me the plus one. Dollars but just a
reminder that there is the human element to all of
(24:17):
this and not all these guys are. Mercenaries with every
move that gets.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Made, well he said all the right, things because why,
NOT i, mean, yeah, yeah they'll be on the mix.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Ball, well you just want as much quote competition for
your services as you.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Gain, yeah and at some point he'll go back and
they'll honor him after he retires. Whatever if he really
wanted to go, back you think that The tigers would
have tried a little bit harder to get some players
that can actually help them win baseball games here in
the coming. Years When Trek scouoble couldn't theory be back
and The sega was on air with me On saturday
(24:56):
night when this all, broke some of the audience may
have heard our. Take my take at the time is
just it was unbelievable being on air when the trade,
happened because you have the immediate, reaction then you have
the Anti dodger, sentiment and then you have the oh
that's all they had to give up to get. Him
why couldn't anybody put together a better? Package and so
(25:18):
that's part now that plays into the conversation of What
Trek skouble said today of, oh, Yeah i'd love to
consider them In november When i'm a free agent. Again, okay,
cool what is the team that you are going to
be coming back to, hypothetically of, course relative to the
team that you just. Left so to, me he said
all the right. Things it moves the story. FORWARD i
(25:39):
think in some ways it closes The detroit, chapter which
we all expected to close at some point around the trade.
DEADLINE i know people are. FRUSTRATED i don't know That
this particular, quote, though makes me feel super confident that
Come december, first if there is a free agency, period
that he will end up back being A Detroit.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Tiger, nah you gotta tell everybody that you loved. Him of,
course you know it's not, you it's. Me it's this
crazy business that we're. In you could blame The Detroit, tigers,
RIGHT i think that's a lot of, it he. GOES
i love the guys, there but there's also just that
gap that, is you, know they could have retained me
if they really paid me an exorbitant amount of money
(26:20):
over a long term. Deal and as we've watched with hitters,
pictures happy, Birthday Mike trout by the, way and his
home run streak that he's, got you, know he's got
six on his, birthday all of those. Things he didn't get,
traded but evidently was in the meetings about guys getting
shipped out out of The angeldom where we Watched Joe
(26:42):
adell as part of The Cleveland guardians earlier as they
beat my Beloved White sox skid of their own but
he got hit by two pitches. Today but it's all
of those just all. Right you have the opportunity to
say what you want to do if you were that
biggest star and how much is? Money and we talked
(27:03):
about this with THE, nba Right Lebron james and his.
Decision who how big was that?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Market?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Really, well we know for school in, theory everybody wants
a bite at the. Apple but the reality is in the,
end whether there's some quid pro quo to be had
long term of people that want to hear miss l
again about all the teams that missed a huge window. Keeping,
no but but that's but that's part of, it. Right
(27:29):
it's like what was the market Really and it's like
getting to the center of the touccy roll. Pop the
world will never, know right because this is the deal
that got. Done like the rest of what could have
should have, been be it The, brewers be at The,
rays be at any other. Contender we don't know for
real what the package. Was we just know what he went.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
For let me ask you, This, yeah do you think
that he was moved to The, dodgers either one because
of something super nefarious that you know behind the scenes
there's something going, on or two because you know it's
semi clear that that's probably in a perfect world where
he wanted to. Be because the one thing THAT i
(28:12):
couldn't reconcile in real time was why you had to
take that trade package at that moment in time On
saturday night when the trade deadline wasn't Until. Monday AND
i know we've got some additional reporting since, then But
i'm just curious why you think he went for what
he did when he did when in a worst case,
scenario that offer was still going to be on the
(28:34):
table On monday for you to get if you wanted
to move To Tek.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
School, well at some point you've got to, pivot, right
the all these other, teams right and if your trade
offers are, rejected The rays go and Get Freddie. Peralta, okay,
fine did they pivot or was he no longer? Available
but that's but that's the question of you, know the
chicken in the, egg right is you know we from
reports they weren't fielding any in dealing with it Till.
(29:01):
Saturday is this the Rich paul he leave me a
voicemail and maybe we'll respond to. You that was a
narrative for a minute or, two right with The Lebron
James World tour or whatever might have been in terms
of what was real imagine in terms of his. Marketplace
but the same thing here of where you already told,
no because the idea That, hey he was going to
(29:25):
go to The dodgers anyway just fails on a million.
Levels if The tigers are losing him and they're resigned
to he's not coming back here at least to finish this,
season like we need to go get something because remember
the Show Hey tani stuff with The. Angels i'll always
argue you had Already, moreno didn't want to lose half
a season Of japanese advertising sure, money so he was
(29:49):
resigned to while we still had hope in theory on
some small minuscule level that Show hey would still pick,
us but it was also a lot of money that
was going to go back with the school. Thing they, decided,
WELL i guess he's gonna leave. It we're not doing
it holding the, bag as opposed to let's run this,
out BECAUSE i argued that they should have just said forget.
(30:10):
It keep him In. Mize you brought In valdez and
run it as best you can because The al is certainly, vulnerable,
right the soft underbelly is. There Red sox may never lose.
Again but you know The, yankees you've still got questions
in their batting. Order and they shuffled up In dealton and,
fine they made a move And GARCIA i, like but
(30:32):
they Said dmngus And volpe beat it and they bring Up.
Lombard he hits a home. Run it's almost like that
of a. Movie but The rays are, good not. Great
we all know where where we are in terms of
their own. Division White sox have overachieved and they hold.
On it's a beautiful, story don't get me, Wrong but
(30:55):
is there enough pitching For, August, september In? October if
you got to know The royal stink and you just
look at your division was still there to go. Get
so you decided to pivot and make this deal LIKE
i would have run its course and ridden it like
it's a horse That i'm in the final furlong and
(31:16):
CAN i get him to the finish? Line the answer
IS i don't. Know but instead you traded, him and
you traded myz to The. Padres, YEAH i just if
you felt like you had to make a. TRADE i
just find it super hard to believe that that was
the best thing you could have gotten with thirty six
hours left before the. Death, yeah so you could either
go tinfoil hat if this had to, happen because this
(31:39):
is the way baseball gets to its inevitable salary, cap
and that's what folks.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Are arguing to some.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Degree but the idea, that all, right we make the
deal with The dodgers absent other deals in the future
because he wanted to do that and we wanted to
make him feel good about, himself to, me is the
worst Logic i've. Heard, Now, oh he was gonna go there,
anyway so let's trade him.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
THERE i just think it was a bad trade and
incompetence more than. Anything but that's the part THAT i
can't reconcile is why did you have to make that
trade On saturday?
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Night?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Saturday that's that's my only. Point AND i don't think
there's something super conspiratorial going. On THE mlb wants The
dodgers to, win or The tigers want to get into a. Lockout.
Whatever i'm just saying that's the part that doesn't make
sense why you had to make that move at that.
Moment with again about thirty six hours before the extra On.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Saturday absolutely At Aaron Underscore tours is where you find
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Swollen coming up, next we have an.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Update one of the great stories earlier in the week
was The Akron zips giving you the opportunity to become
the offensive coordinator for a. Series it sparked a little
bit of, outrage but it also got people to pony
up their. Money we'll tell you all about it as we.
Continue he's Aeron torres and for Jameson smith On Mike
harmon and this Is Fox Sports.
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Subscribe welcome back In Fox Sports, Radio Mike carbon Alongside
Aaron tors having a blast with. You thanks for being
with us and being part of our extended family here
on A friday night As alex Tight shirt spins the
one in Two's. Emmy our executive, Producer Steve desager at
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(33:52):
some sound from These Major league baseball, games you, know
the arcane. Rules if we can't do it until they're a.
Final we got some updates everybody. Else it's, like how
quickly can we get that touchdown turned? Around how quickly
can we get that?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Goal? Baseball, yeah wait for the game to.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
End as someone who has Hosted Red Zone radio a
handful of, TIMES i know you do the national pregame. Show, yeah,
Buddy but the idea of having to wait until the
game is, over when we literally play every single touchdown
every Single, sunday at least in the early and afternoon,
windows it's a litt. Crazy it's.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Funny why like that is a work of.
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Art we could probably do a documentary on how the
editing and processing goes down for our squad here At
Fox Sports radio As Red Zone radio On, saturday we'll
do it with college football and then certainly THE nfl
and that quick turnaround.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Of, hey that guy just. Scoring oh you want to hear?
Speaker 7 (34:47):
It.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Bam it's just like. That and by the end of
the shift you feel like you want to give the
guys a gift certificate to, say like A Burke william
so you can decompress a little, bit get the you,
know the oils and everything and just bring yourself into
that proper mental space because it's seven, hours it's like
(35:09):
and you watch it On Red zone or however you
consume YOUR. Nfl but if you're with us here On
Fox Sports, radio, one thank you. Too the sausage is.
Made and let me tell you the guys and, girls
you Know brianna back there and the grind is.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Real it.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Is you never have a shift go by faster, Though
i'll tell you, that, no that is.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
True there is no. Blinking there is no time for bathroom,
breaks long coffee, breaks whatever food shows. Up when it,
does you hear a knock on the door and you
open it and there's a bag waiting for, you talking
about football and good stuff and to, me one of
the great. Promotions you AND i were talking about this
a little bit before we came on, air the nil
(35:50):
world of trying to find moneies and benefactors wherever you.
Can how we were talking about the guy that did
the play by play for an inning off an auction
for The Philly foundation.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yesterday but The.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Akron, zips they sold out their stadium suites for the
first time in forever in their team. History because they
have the offensive coordinator of the game, promotion someone's gonna
get a chance to script the opening drive for The
september twelfth home opener Against Robert, morris AND i saw
some thought pieces of this is you've ruined the sanctity
(36:22):
of the. Game it's, like the hell with, that you know,
What put a microphone on, them let them do two,
series have another winner show up that you got an
over under of three and a half. Wins you're trying
to drive some interest in your program and bring some
revenue in to where you can go and recruit another
player or five to keep. Building it's like you, know
(36:43):
hitting a parlay and you know winning a bet and
saying all, Right i'm going to parlay that let it ride.
Whatever you're at a table, game same thing here Of
if you got this and you sold out that, fast
you got to figure out what the next incentivizer is
to keep that money.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Flowing the holding Of Old miss was asked AT Sec
Media days about tampering and he basically, said it's not
as though recruiting in college football was always the most sanctimonious.
Thing if you're frustrated about the world of, this finds
something better to go, Outside touch, grass get some.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Sun this is a cool. Promo Akron, Zips i'll cheer
for them this. Year He's Aeron torres and For Jason,
Smith I'm Mike. Harmon coming up, next we'll turn our
attention back to the world of A National Football.
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