September 8, 2026 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon preview Week 1 of the NFL season, react to SMU's win over Florida State, and are joined by Jason La Confora to continue discussing the NFL's biggest storylines.
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and rip that knob off. Well, proving that once again,
time travel is possible. College football tonight. Labor Day night.
Always get a big game. SMU Florida State after a
big delay. Nearly two hours due to a power outage.
Game is now 7-7 early in the second quarter. The
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game is being played under these conditions. Power is only
back on in a limited capacity at Doe Campbell. Not
all the stadium lights are operating. No coach-to-player communication. No
iPads on the sideline. No public address announcer. No scoreboard,
no public game clock. The officials are keeping track of
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the time on the field. So basically, we're back to
like what football was like in the 80s and 90s.
Like this was college football in the 80s and 90s.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So if you always.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Want to know what a live game look like and
not go back and look at a tape of one. Well,
that's what it looks like right now. Florida State and SMU.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I really hope they had all of their big note
cards and hand signals all worked out. anticipating that there
might be such an event because that one's kind of
a big deal, right? No headset communication. But I do
like that the last thing you enumerated on your list
was the idea of, well, the clocks being run by
the officials. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, I'm sorry. It might be a little too soon
for that, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh, I don't know. It's funny how that works, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But I mean, this is what it was like in
the 80s and 90s. Like the communication sometimes, like if
you just started getting communications between the players and the
coaches and the teams.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Okay, great.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
We didn't always get the time on the scoreboard, right?
You didn't always have the lower third with the time
remaining in the game. Sometimes you had to wait like 10,
12 minutes. Oh, wow, there's only three minutes left in
the game? Oh, my God, I had no idea. The
announcers never said it. But at least we have that
part tonight because you're watching the game on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We see it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But this is kind of what– like to prove that
football has come a long way and not come a
long way in like 25, 30 years, I go– Yeah,
that's what it was like in the 80s and 90s,
but it's not that much different from what it is.
You can look at games from the 90s and early
2000s and go, yeah, this is very similar to the
game we see right now.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
No, I dig this. All these extra added things and
the fact that they put in the lower third on
the television, time kept on field. Again, does that have
the tenth or hundredths of a second on there? I mean,
I don't know. What do we got?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Hmm. Wow, so you don't want to do any kind
of fun with Florida State and SMU.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Florida State battling SMU. You want no fun at all.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You don't want no kind of fun. You've been steaming
all weekend about the Hail Mary. I've been steaming about this.
I can't even say hello without bringing up the Hail Mary.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I said, hello, you brought it up in your intro
in terms of things being kept on the field. So
we have to laugh at it. That's all it is.
I'm celebrating the whole week rich weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That it was. You got to win.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I got to win. Michigan got to win. You know,
I mean, all of these things.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
All right. Well, that's, that's the thing, right?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So obviously the Michigan Hail Mary against Western Michigan this
weekend is Look, as someone who outside of of Michigan
alumni or people in the state of Michigan, I'm the
only one that watched that game from beginning to end. OK,
I'm the only one that watch that game for getting that.
The thing about this game, right, there's two big takeaways
from this after all the stuff you've heard in the
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last couple of days about. Should there have been a
second left? Was there not a second? The Big Ten's explanation,
all of this. The first thing I will tell you is,
and this is what sucks about it, right? There's no...
I wish I could dial this up a different way,
but I can't. I can't do it any more than
this because this is what sucks, is that nobody is happy.
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Nobody is happy after this game.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Nobody... Western Michigan, they're not happy, right? Michigan, not happy, right?
College football fans, not happy. No one is happy after
this result.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
In fact, look, you know, living in the Michigan household
now for 35 years, right after the Hail Mary went,
my wife just goes, I don't even know how to feel.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We were terrible. And I'm like, you just wanted a
Hail Mary.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And I'm going, yeah, no, but this is what it's
going to be like. No one is going to be
happy after this because really, If you're Western Michigan, what
happened to us? How did the second go back on
the clock? We dominated Michigan the entire game. If you're Michigan,
you won the game, but you realize, boy, we're not
that good, and we probably shouldn't have had the second
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put on the clock. How do I feel about winning
this game?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And every other college football fan goes, yep, favor done
for Michigan right there. That's how it goes. They put
a second back on the clock, and college football is fixed.
That's the thing that sucks about this is no one
on any level. is happy about this, and the story
continues on, and it's people getting mad.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And usually in.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Stories, there's at least a small fraction of people that
are happy about an outcome.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
All this happened to me once.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, nobody is happy about this, and that's the worst part.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, I like it because it gives us some controversy
and chaos that isn't about NFL players coming back to play.
You want to talk about a no-show effort. You want
to just spend a lot of time on Dabo Swinney,
and that– uh craptastic effort that his team didn't put
forward on saturday night but we got that but you
know what i've got a third piece that nobody's talking
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about except me because i'm a lunatic this way if
they just handled the damn snap if they just handled
the snap on third and two from the michigan 12
and picked up that first down instead of having to
settle for a field goal it's all moot Well, look,
there's lots of things you could say. The excellence of
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execution right there.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
If they had decided to.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Kick a field goal instead of going for it on
fourth and two. I mean, yeah, there's lots of things
over the course of the game you could say, yeah,
if you had done this, you would have done this.
But the bottom line is the clock struck zero, and
they put a second back on the clock for Michigan. Again,
living in a Michigan household, knowing my wife is listening
right now, and I don't know what kind of weapon
she might have.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Okay, well, that's a big statement there early.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'll tell you, they put a second back on the clock.
And look, I can't defend it. It shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But in the end, this is a game where it
was over, and then it went back on, and the
outcome just left a bad taste in everybody's mouth. You
go around college football, it's like, okay, this happened. And
how do we feel about it? We don't like it.
What's the result? There's nothing we can do. Is anybody happy?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Normally I just yell succeed and proceed like Calipari, except
Underwood was no good except for that last throw. So
it left everybody with a bad taste in their mouth.
We'll get into Whittingham's comments as we go. But you
also had the chance to stop them, and you thought
you did. Well, you had to line up for one
more play. Do it again.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know, the thing is, and look, about the one
second being put on, right? The second thing about it
is this, is that The reaction is, why was a
second put back on the clock? And you could say,
did they do a favor for Michigan? Of course they did. Now,
why did they do it? Did they do it to
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fix the game because someone had money on the game?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did they do it?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We say this about replay all the time on the show,
is that watch college football, Major League Baseball, NFL, whatever
it is. There are times, and there are many times
over the course of a season where you see a
few games where you go, wow, they are really going
to the wall and putting in every effort to overturn
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this call on the field.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Why is this, right?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Usually that's what it is. Sometimes they look at plays, nope, nope,
the play goes to stand. Wow, the ball hit the ground.
You can see the point.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, no, no. But other times, boy, this replay has
taken a long time.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Why?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Because they are really looking for a way to overturn it.
For whatever reason, they are really looking for a way
to overturn it. Now, were they looking for a reason
to overturn to give Michigan one more play? Of course
they were, right? You heard the audio from the Big
Ten arguing. Listen to the lengths they went to. to
make sure a second was back on the clock. Look,
he throws the ball here. This is where the guy
who's out of bounds comes up and touches the football.
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That is lengths that no one goes to. No one
goes that length to make sure there is a second
back on the clock for any reason. And all I
got to do is say this. If it was reversed...
and Western Michigan had thrown that Hail Mary, and it
was out of the back of the end zone, and
everybody's running on the field, and the victors is playing,
and the coaches are shaking hands. Is the review calling
down going, no, no, no, no, no, there's one more
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second left. Western Michigan has one more play. Are they
doing that? No. There's no way they're doing it in
the game end. So, yeah, Michigan got a favor done
for them because they're Michigan, because sometimes that's how it goes,
which is why I always say I really want transparency.
in reviews because you see how they come to an agreement,
why they go to such lengths to come to an agreement.
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I'm glad we got some of the audio here. But, again,
this is not that they looked at it and said, oh,
they put a second back on the clock where there
was none. They put time back on where they really
went to make sure, hey, have we exhausted every avenue
to see that we don't have a second back on
the clock for Michigan to have one more play?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, no, here it is.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
There's maybe less than half a second. Put that time
back on the clock. That just doesn't happen. And it
doesn't happen if Western Michigan isn't the one throwing the
Hail Mary.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
We have the super secret clock that has the tenths
of the second. Mike Pereira was asked for commentary on that,
our old friend. It's my understanding if there's a discrepancy
between the video and replay command center versus the television
network video that everybody sees. That replay is to use
the TV video. That's the same protocol in the NFL.
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In the UFL, it's the same. You use the footage
that everybody sees if there's a discrepancy. The article goes
on to point on, this is the athletic. That is not, however,
spelled out in the NCAA's instant replay casebook. So, you know,
good old NCAA. Giant, thick rulebook. This one, there's empty
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space when it comes down. The game clock superimposed on
the replay monitor. So, yeah, fractional seconds do exist. So
this is what we should have on our clocks going forward, right?
Because they came out at the Big Ten very quickly
with the statement of, hey, 85 minutes before the game,
they sync everything up, right? Here's the lasers. We're all
on the same page.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Everything's good.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
All the clocks are in sync. Except here.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, the one clock here at the very end with
one second.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, look, we've seen the shenanigans with the play
clock before down to one second, right? Just two things
off the top of my head. Michigan lost a game
to Michigan State in 2001 where there was a ridiculous
second left on the clock and the game was at
Michigan State and Jeff Smoker throws a touchdown pass and
the game should have been over. and the 2009 Big
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12 title game where Colt McCoy lost his head, throws
the ball out of bounds, and somehow there's still a
second left on the clock for them to kick a
game-winning field goal when I believe a berth in the
college football playoff was on the line. If Nebraska wins
that game, oh, no, no, no, no, hey, Big 12
teams will go to the playoff. But Texas needed to
win to get there. There should not have been a
second left. And they kicked the field goal to win
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the game. And I vividly remember Bo Pelini walking off
the field, head coach of Nebraska, looking at the officials
and giving them a dismissive wave with his hand like,
you guys suck. Like, you know, we've seen that, right?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Like, this happens.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
We've seen shenanigans with the clock before. And, yes, this
was Michigan getting a favor done for them because it
was Michigan, right?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And like I said.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Did Texas get a favor done for them because, hey,
they could win and maybe go to the conference? Yeah,
of course they did. Michigan State's game is at home
against Michigan? Yeah, we've seen this before. But that's the
big thing to look at is that why are so
lengths gone to so much for some replays and some, nope,
the ball was down, the ball was here. Because I'm
telling you, if it's Western Michigan, they're not saying, wait, wait, wait, no, no,
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put everybody back on the field, it's over.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, none of them are doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I commend everybody who has had all the class through
this Michigan was classy about it. Western Michigan, incredibly classy
about it. Yes, everybody is up in arms on it,
and the way Western Michigan accepted the loss, it was
a lot of class, and they didn't have to do that.
So that result is, okay, I'm glad for that, but just... Overall, like,
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you know, look, no one's happy. And yeah, Michigan had
a favor done for them.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I was kind of digging the fact that winning him
in his postgame is like I was pretty sure there
was a second left, like based on what you were
looking at.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
What?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
But I like the fact that we got Jeff Smoker,
Colt McCoy and Bo Pelini in to this conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, you like that, huh?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So does this also mean that that's how the play
clock operates? Whenever we're having that half-ass, was this after
the clock struck zero, you know, that extra beat before?
It's like, ah, it really should have been a delay
a game, but ah, the snap got off. So do
we start playing games with that too? It's like, is
that on a secret clock? Like, what do we do?
How far do we want to take this?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean, look, they can choose to– it's like
calling holding on every play in the NFL. You can
call holding on every play. Do you choose to call
holding on every play? No, we pick where we want
to call holding. We pick where we want to get
really attentive about a snap on a play. And officials pick,
and the replay officials– they pick how far they want
to go with looking into a call.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Like, that happens.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I mean, like the replay officials, that's the big unknown.
That's what Pablo Torre should spend time finding out. You know,
instead of all the craziness with billionaires and money and
Magic Johnson.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, find out about this. Let's take a look and see.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
All these official reviews and see how they are and
make sure that every replay review is treated the same
way because it just isn't. I mean, I live in
a Michigan house, and I've seen every Michigan game for
35 years. I know they had a favor done. Would
that have happened if the game was at Western?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Would it have happened? No, probably not. But the game
was at the big house. It was there, Michigan. They
had a favor done.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think the thing is to just, okay, let's accept it,
and let's make sure something like this doesn't happen again
because now you've opened up a can of worms to
the final second left on a clock in a football game.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
All I know is I want two decimal points going forward.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I'll tell you, man. That's it. That may not be enough.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I need it to two digit. I need the decimal
point to two digits.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Dude, I don't know. That's enough. I think you need
three or four digits.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Really?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We're going to take it all the way out to
the 10,000.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's got to be like pie 3.14.176. I know I
can take it all the way through, man.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Cannot have that.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
No, it's funny. Like here's, here's your 0.8 seconds. And
I guess, all right, if you actually gave me that clock,
no argument. Problem is everybody saw zeros.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
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Speaker 6 (17:15):
What's going on, guys?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Hey, buddy. You're right. We're less than 48 hours away
from Patriots-Seahawks, man. We've made it.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
It's finally, finally here. Yes, sir. Again, I'm excited. You know,
these seasons, you reach these points where you don't think
you know anything and then you think you know a lot. Right? Yeah.
Maybe make a few wagers. And then we start finding out.
You know, start finding out time. And we'll probably make
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too much of the first couple weeks because we always
do because it's all you have to go on, even
though we know we should know better. But these are
two teams that I do have strong feelings about. Again,
could end up being misguided. But I feel like Seattle's
the rare breed that could actually repeat. And I think
that the Patriots are going to find the typical– sort
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of year after losing a Super Bowl-type regression, whatever you
want to call it, curse or whatever. I think there's
a lot of ominous signs there, and I think the
Seahawks have a chance to be, you know, they are
a special organization, and I think they have an opportunity
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to do some special things.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Wow, this is new because usually every time we talk
about the Seahawks, basically from the end of last season, ah,
they'll never win again. They got lucky once. They lost
a running back. Sam Darnold's not going to do it again.
So to hear you say they could repeat is pretty interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Yeah, well, I mean, I love them in that Super Bowl.
I wasn't sure they were going to be able to
get by the Rams, and they obviously found a way
to do that, and there were some crazy– You know,
some crazy games there, but they found a way to
win those games. And there's nothing that you can discount
with the defense. Now, they've got some injuries going into
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this game on the back end, and we'll see. But
I believe in Mike McDonald and his ability to scheme
around some things and make some things happen. He's pretty special,
and the GM's pretty special. And I don't, I mean...
It's not like you ask the quarterback to throw the
ball 60 times a game. And the running back was good,
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not great. And if I'm them, I would– and that's
the sort of production you're looking for, and it's going
to be a bit of a mix. You're not really
looking for a bell cow. Then, you know, let somebody
else give him the real contract, and we get another
guy in here on a rookie contract. And, you know, I, I,
away we go. I, they'd gotten much better at the, uh,
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at the point of attack on both sides of the
ball from where they were the last year under Pete Carroll. Um,
I don't know, man. Like I, I think they're, I
think they're pretty good. Uh, I, I think they're pretty good. And, um,
Clint Kubiak's a big loss. I get that. And we'll see.
The year before he got there, certainly the offense wasn't great.
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But I think this quarterback's a whole lot better than
their last quarterback. And so, no, I buy him. I
buy the Seahawks. I think the Seahawks can repeat.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Speaking of those Rams, look, I could go off a
few good men and start talking about travel plans, and
I don't have the foggiest idea, blah, blah, blah, blah.
People react. They're three-and-a-half-point favorites against San Francisco over in Australia.
What say you?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
I like them. I mean, I'm not going to sit
here and tell you I'm a sports scientist, and I've
studied sleep patterns, and I have access to all the best–
medical data about what a flight does to you and
how an athlete responds to a flight and what's the
peak amount of time to stay over there.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'm going to trust that they have a half-decent idea.
I'm going to trust that between Sean McVay and Les
Snead and Kevin Demoff, that they're not just complete buffoons
who just decided to wing this. And they're like, well,
you know, whatever. We don't really like, I don't even
think I was going to say Foster's Lager, but I
don't even think Foster's Lager is big over there. You
know what I mean? And certainly Bloomin' Onions. I don't
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think most people in Australia probably have a fricking clue
what a Bloomin' Onion is. But so whatever, like I just,
maybe they just didn't want to spend a whole lot
of time in Australia, but no, I think they're doing
it probably based on some significant research and I think
they have a markedly better team than San Francisco. I
think they're in better shape health wise overall than San Francisco. Um,
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I don't, I don't buy the 49ers. I, I don't, um,
I really don't buy anything about them right now. And, uh,
it's weird, different stadium, different surface. It's all foreign. Two
teams taking a different approach to it. It's a lot
of variables. Certainly. Um, But I think the Rams know
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what they're doing, and I think the Rams are going
to have their way with them.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
NFL insider Jason Lockett for our guest, Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
All right, let's get to some news from today.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Where, I mean, I don't know if this is going
to stop them from picking in the top three, but
Tua Tungavailoa will start week one for the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Maybe it's Steve Bartkowski after that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I mean, Penix isn't right. And when Penix gets enough
reps under his belt and he's fully cleared medically and
they think, you know, they're convinced that he can take
a hit, then it's going to be Penix. I could
see it being Penix by week three, honestly. Wouldn't surprise
me at all if they're 0-2 and starting to feel
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the heat. And Pennix has now got a couple weeks
of practice, and we've watched Tua throw the ball 3.2
yards downfield 30 times a game. And everybody's just like,
what are we doing here? I think there's some buyer's remorse.
Not that they're paying him money, but he's taking up
a roster spot, and they did invest a significant amount
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of time in him this offseason, and he was the
immediate guy they went after. when he became available, like.
But, yeah, I think it's a sunk cost. And, I mean,
if Pennix needs more than a couple weeks, do we
get a Cooper Rush buffer for a week or two
to buy more time? Like, it wouldn't surprise me. Too
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many evaluators who I trust have not liked Tua for
a while, have not thought Tua's a starting quarterback for
a while, have thought that Tua's kind of broken as
a leader. His messaging, his body language, the way he
handles stuff in the locker room, the things that come
out of his mouth, I don't think people are buying
all that, unfortunately. You know, running and that element of
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his legs helping him doesn't exist anymore, really, with the concussions.
And he's not going to push the ball down the field.
I mean, he's still fairly accurate, I guess, but the
kind of passes that we're talking about are pretty rudimentary.
It's a hard way to run your offense. And I
think Kevin Stefanski made a big mistake.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
To that end, what does it say that the Steelers
are only a three-point favorite at home against this squad?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I would get on that line now. I mean, it's
a different cast there in Atlanta than Miami and what
Tua was playing with last year, and it won't be
as cold as when Tua went there when he was
in Pittsburgh late in the year. We know he doesn't
like playing the cold, but I just think that defense
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is going to be a bad matchup for him. Yeah,
I'm not feeling Atlanta. I'm not feeling Atlanta. probably a
low-scoring game. I'm going to be looking at the under,
and I don't think Atlanta's scoring a lot of points themselves.
I think Pittsburgh can cover that number because I don't
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think Atlanta's going to put up a whole.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Lot of points. All right, Jay, last time we get
to talk to you before the season starts on Wednesday night,
you talked about how much you like Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Your pick for the Super Bowl. Is it Seattle making
it back? Who is it against? If it's the Jets,
it's okay. You can say the Jets. It's all right.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
You really probably shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Just credibility-wise.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Sure, yeah. I'll give it some thought. This is off
the top of my head because I haven't really bet
a Super Bowl. I haven't really thought a whole lot
about the Super Bowl. There's teams I like more than others.
But let's... I don't know. I'm thinking maybe Denver and...
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Let's go crazy. Let's see. Yeah. We're not going to
go crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Go crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Go crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Denver's 20 to one.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
The Chicago bears.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
How about that?
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Bears 24 to one Denver, 20 to one. That's a
nice payday.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Um, I like probably the Broncos side of it more
than the bears. Cause I worry about the bears pass rush,
but like, I don't know, maybe they do something between
now and deadline. Um, Maybe they trade for Max Crosby
or something. But I do like those teams. I think
that people are– those teams are probably not getting their due.
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Denver in particular, because I think they're really balanced. I
think Chicago's offense is going to be dynamite. We just
have to see about the defense. They're probably not going
to get as many turnovers as last year. And they
sure are some things up. But I think they're going
to be a fun team to watch, and they're going
to play some exciting games. and I think the quarterback's
going to light it up.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
He's on Twitter, at Jason Lock and 4. That is
at Jason Lock and 4. Check him out on SI
as well, Jay. As always, buddy, thanks. We'll join you
next week. We'll be breaking down week one.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Let's go. Fired up. Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
See you, buddy. Hit them hard.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
There goes Jason locking for it, and a very happy
Mike Harmon. Chicago Bears and Super Bowl being thrown around.
It's come a long way since the Northwest Indiana Bears, man.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
No, that's it. I mean, you got Roger Goodell with
his shiny new extension. He's been talking up, hey, I'd
like to keep in Chicago and all that stuff, so
maybe they'll fight there. But, man, I still got a
lot of White Sox baseball to go before I can
turn my attention fully to the Bears. And a 1-0
Northwestern squad.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think it's time to realize what's the most important
thing here, and that's the Bears. I think you have
to realize that now.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But they'll still be playing meaningful football into the holidays.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You hope. Well, look at this.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
All of a sudden, you think that's just going to happen?
You just think it happens that good football gets played?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's not something you and I are used to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
When the Bears start 0-6, it's going to wind up
being your fault for that right there. You put that
out there. I don't have to worry about the Bears.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Meaningful football is happening.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Look, man, I got a White Sox squad that's barging
and rumbling and stumbling towards the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Nope, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
It's two days. I got a quarterback that might pass
for more than 4,000 yards.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You turned your back on the Bears.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I do not have to worry about the Bears.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Nope.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Just like Tyson Bajet and Caleb Williams are hanging out
at White Sox games, I'm right there invisibly with them.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
0-2, 0-3, 0-4. We were doing great until Harmon decided
to say, I don't got to worry about the Bears
until the holidays.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
All right, all right.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I just said the White Sox have more of my attention.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You just said you're supporting the Bears with invisibility.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
No, no, no. I'm saying, like, they all go to
each other's games.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It's a very cool.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Thing that's going on with the superstars of Chicago. but
I'm doing it in an invisible form. I'm supporting you,
but I'm invisible.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
No, be loud when I need to be loud, but
I'm just saying a lot of my energy is still
invested in the Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I'm going to use that. I'm going to support you,
but invisibly. I'm doing it, yeah. Pretend I'm there, but
I'm really not going to.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
A lot of folks do that in certain... Things that they,
you know, how they vote.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Not going to do it. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'll support you, but really just don't say my name.
Don't quote me, but pretend I'm standing there with you.
That's how it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
There you go. The invisible support of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Get on that invisible Bears bandwagon. Plenty of room. Like
Wonder Woman's jet.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
You just really have a hearing problem. But it made
for a good bit, and it entertained you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You just said you have no time for the Bears.
You said that. You said, I got the White Sox
in Northwestern. You said you had no time for the Bears.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at 10 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Pacific.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So, happy Monday. Happy Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We'll get back to football coming up in a few minutes.
But just this is starting to gain a lot of
attention online. And after seeing the games and watching everything happening.
Something is up with Team USA at the Worlds in FIBA.
Right now, they run away, you know, over Chechya today. Sure.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You know, 155-7, right? This game was never in doubt.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Same like it, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Tough time a day ago with Italy. Very difficult.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But a video starting to gain a lot of attention
in the last couple hours, and this is near the
end of the blowout with about three minutes to go
in the fourth quarter. Kaitlyn Clark hits a three, right?
Makes a score like 99-58, but Kaitlyn Clark hits a three.
And the camera pans to Team USA's bench, and Jackie
Young and Kalia Copper are sitting there, and Jackie Young
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claps in. And you hear her. She turns over to you.
She turns over. She turns her and says, you better clap.
And then copper just, you know, then, you know, get
your hands up and starts clapping. This tells you that
something is up with Team USA. And now I look
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and I go. they must be barely keeping a lid
on whatever jealousy relationship situations they have with each other, right?
Because I look at this and I go, I don't
know if this is a Caitlyn Clark thing only. Like,
I can't say, oh, this is Caitlyn Clark. I'm not clapping.
But there is something going on because you can see
that whether it's Caitlin Clark or we talked about last
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week that maybe it's just the olds and the youngs.
Maybe it's just the old guard doesn't like the young
players because look at how this team has played since
they started this tournament. All the veterans are starting and
they're all playing together. And then what happens? Then it's
like a line change, right? Then it's Caitlin Clark and
Paige Beckers and, and, uh, and then Angel Reese all
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come into the game together, right? And then you get
a couple other players come in and mix it. But
then you always get Collier, Stewart, Young, Copper, and Gray.
They all play together, right? They all play the 15,
20 minutes together, and you get a little more minutes
from the younger players.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So I look at this.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I can't tell you that it is a that it's
a Caitlin Clark thing, but it really looks like it's
an it's an old and a young thing because they
don't seem like they can play together at all. They
seem to struggle. There seems to be no flow with
the team. You can tell that when the veterans play,
they struggle a little bit more. I mean, look, you
look at the plus minuses they have for the game
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versus what You know, the younger players have for the game.
And you can tell there is something going on and
that it might just be more than, well, nobody seems
to like Caitlin Clark. And, you know, look, the other
teammates are freezing her out. They're not passing to her.
But you just see the way the playing time.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Is doled out.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
And how the vets all play together, the young players
play together, and you see this, you better clap. This
tells you that there's something going on with support for
the team that has had to be addressed. Because there's
no way Jack Young is telling Copper, you better clap unless, hey,
there's something going on and we can't let this blow up.
You know Coach is going to get mad or whoever's
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going to get mad, but there is some sort of
support thing happening with Team USA today that is just
under the surface right now that we're not getting because
the team is still winning going on. But just see,
when a teammate has to remind somebody to clap, you
know there's something going on. And at some point, I
think we'll find out. I hope it doesn't take United
States laws to find out, but.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
You can tell there's something there.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I think some of it, you get to the
divide between the veterans and recognizing their time on this
stage is running to an end. We had a little
bit of that with the women's soccer squad. We've had that.
with the U.S. men's basketball squad. They don't want to
go into the good night, right? Pick any of those teams,
the guys that are on their third or fourth Olympics
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in a lot of the sports. There's a lot of divide.
It's just a question of how easily seen it is
to the naked eye. When it comes to clapping on
the bench, that one's always a tough one for me
because I know there's a lot of times like, yeah,
you want everybody to be fired up, but then there's
also the Yeah, we're beating them by 35. Who the
hell cares?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Right, but the fact that she's reminded of it means
that was something that was brought up.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That was a focal point that was brought up.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, that's the curiosity behind the scenes. What is it
in terms of, hey, you've got to act to the cameras?
Because in the end, as long as you're winning, they
don't have to be best buds. We talk about this
all the time. You don't have to be the best friends,
but sometimes you need to look like your best friend.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I mean, if you can do it, look, and the
thing is, is like, you know, Caitlin Clark and Angel
Reese can't stand each other, but they look like best
friends on the floor, right? They can put it aside
to go win, right?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't see that among the rest of this team.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
See, I think they also recognize it's good business, or
at least Angel Reese does.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Man, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
We got more on this and more on big NFL
and college football coming up next right here.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Jason and Mike, Fox.
Thanks for listening to the Jason Smith Show with Mike
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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and rip that knob off. Well, proving that once again,
time travel is possible. College football tonight. Labor Day night.
Always get a big game. SMU Florida State after a
big delay. Nearly two hours due to a power outage.
Game is now 7-7 early in the second quarter. The
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game is being played under these conditions. Power is only
back on in a limited capacity at Doe Campbell. Not
all the stadium lights are operating. No coach-to-player communication. No
iPads on the sideline. No public address announcer. No scoreboard,
no public game clock. The officials are keeping track of
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the time on the field. So basically, we're back to
like what football was like in the 80s and 90s.
Like this was college football in the 80s and 90s.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So if you always.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Want to know what a live game look like and
not go back and look at a tape of one. Well,
that's what it looks like right now. Florida State and SMU.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I really hope they had all of their big note
cards and hand signals all worked out. anticipating that there
might be such an event because that one's kind of
a big deal, right? No headset communication. But I do
like that the last thing you enumerated on your list
was the idea of, well, the clocks being run by
the officials. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, I'm sorry. It might be a little too soon
for that, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh, I don't know. It's funny how that works, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But I mean, this is what it was like in
the 80s and 90s. Like the communication sometimes, like if
you just started getting communications between the players and the
coaches and the teams.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Okay, great.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
We didn't always get the time on the scoreboard, right?
You didn't always have the lower third with the time
remaining in the game. Sometimes you had to wait like 10,
12 minutes. Oh, wow, there's only three minutes left in
the game? Oh, my God, I had no idea. The
announcers never said it. But at least we have that
part tonight because you're watching the game on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We see it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But this is kind of what– like to prove that
football has come a long way and not come a
long way in like 25, 30 years, I go– Yeah,
that's what it was like in the 80s and 90s,
but it's not that much different from what it is.
You can look at games from the 90s and early
2000s and go, yeah, this is very similar to the
game we see right now.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
No, I dig this. All these extra added things and
the fact that they put in the lower third on
the television, time kept on field. Again, does that have
the tenth or hundredths of a second on there? I mean,
I don't know. What do we got?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Hmm. Wow, so you don't want to do any kind
of fun with Florida State and SMU.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Florida State battling SMU. You want no fun at all.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You don't want no kind of fun. You've been steaming
all weekend about the Hail Mary. I've been steaming about this.
I can't even say hello without bringing up the Hail Mary.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I said, hello, you brought it up in your intro
in terms of things being kept on the field. So
we have to laugh at it. That's all it is.
I'm celebrating the whole week rich weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That it was. You got to win.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I got to win. Michigan got to win. You know,
I mean, all of these things.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
All right. Well, that's, that's the thing, right?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So obviously the Michigan Hail Mary against Western Michigan this
weekend is Look, as someone who outside of of Michigan
alumni or people in the state of Michigan, I'm the
only one that watched that game from beginning to end. OK,
I'm the only one that watch that game for getting that.
The thing about this game, right, there's two big takeaways
from this after all the stuff you've heard in the
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last couple of days about. Should there have been a
second left? Was there not a second? The Big Ten's explanation,
all of this. The first thing I will tell you is,
and this is what sucks about it, right? There's no...
I wish I could dial this up a different way,
but I can't. I can't do it any more than
this because this is what sucks, is that nobody is happy.
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Nobody is happy after this game.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Nobody... Western Michigan, they're not happy, right? Michigan, not happy, right?
College football fans, not happy. No one is happy after
this result.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
In fact, look, you know, living in the Michigan household
now for 35 years, right after the Hail Mary went,
my wife just goes, I don't even know how to feel.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We were terrible. And I'm like, you just wanted a
Hail Mary.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And I'm going, yeah, no, but this is what it's
going to be like. No one is going to be
happy after this because really, If you're Western Michigan, what
happened to us? How did the second go back on
the clock? We dominated Michigan the entire game. If you're Michigan,
you won the game, but you realize, boy, we're not
that good, and we probably shouldn't have had the second
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put on the clock. How do I feel about winning
this game?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And every other college football fan goes, yep, favor done
for Michigan right there. That's how it goes. They put
a second back on the clock, and college football is fixed.
That's the thing that sucks about this is no one
on any level. is happy about this, and the story
continues on, and it's people getting mad.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And usually in.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Stories, there's at least a small fraction of people that
are happy about an outcome.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
All this happened to me once.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, nobody is happy about this, and that's the worst part.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, I like it because it gives us some controversy
and chaos that isn't about NFL players coming back to play.
You want to talk about a no-show effort. You want
to just spend a lot of time on Dabo Swinney,
and that– uh craptastic effort that his team didn't put
forward on saturday night but we got that but you
know what i've got a third piece that nobody's talking
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about except me because i'm a lunatic this way if
they just handled the damn snap if they just handled
the snap on third and two from the michigan 12
and picked up that first down instead of having to
settle for a field goal it's all moot Well, look,
there's lots of things you could say. The excellence of
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execution right there.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
If they had decided to.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Kick a field goal instead of going for it on
fourth and two. I mean, yeah, there's lots of things
over the course of the game you could say, yeah,
if you had done this, you would have done this.
But the bottom line is the clock struck zero, and
they put a second back on the clock for Michigan. Again,
living in a Michigan household, knowing my wife is listening
right now, and I don't know what kind of weapon
she might have.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Okay, well, that's a big statement there early.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'll tell you, they put a second back on the clock.
And look, I can't defend it. It shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But in the end, this is a game where it
was over, and then it went back on, and the
outcome just left a bad taste in everybody's mouth. You
go around college football, it's like, okay, this happened. And
how do we feel about it? We don't like it.
What's the result? There's nothing we can do. Is anybody happy?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Normally I just yell succeed and proceed like Calipari, except
Underwood was no good except for that last throw. So
it left everybody with a bad taste in their mouth.
We'll get into Whittingham's comments as we go. But you
also had the chance to stop them, and you thought
you did. Well, you had to line up for one
more play. Do it again.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know, the thing is, and look, about the one
second being put on, right? The second thing about it
is this, is that The reaction is, why was a
second put back on the clock? And you could say,
did they do a favor for Michigan? Of course they did. Now,
why did they do it? Did they do it to
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fix the game because someone had money on the game?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did they do it?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We say this about replay all the time on the show,
is that watch college football, Major League Baseball, NFL, whatever
it is. There are times, and there are many times
over the course of a season where you see a
few games where you go, wow, they are really going
to the wall and putting in every effort to overturn
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this call on the field.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Why is this, right?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Usually that's what it is. Sometimes they look at plays, nope, nope,
the play goes to stand. Wow, the ball hit the ground.
You can see the point.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, no, no. But other times, boy, this replay has
taken a long time.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Why?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Because they are really looking for a way to overturn it.
For whatever reason, they are really looking for a way
to overturn it. Now, were they looking for a reason
to overturn to give Michigan one more play? Of course
they were, right? You heard the audio from the Big
Ten arguing. Listen to the lengths they went to. to
make sure a second was back on the clock. Look,
he throws the ball here. This is where the guy
who's out of bounds comes up and touches the football.
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That is lengths that no one goes to. No one
goes that length to make sure there is a second
back on the clock for any reason. And all I
got to do is say this. If it was reversed...
and Western Michigan had thrown that Hail Mary, and it
was out of the back of the end zone, and
everybody's running on the field, and the victors is playing,
and the coaches are shaking hands. Is the review calling
down going, no, no, no, no, no, there's one more
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second left. Western Michigan has one more play. Are they
doing that? No. There's no way they're doing it in
the game end. So, yeah, Michigan got a favor done
for them because they're Michigan, because sometimes that's how it goes,
which is why I always say I really want transparency.
in reviews because you see how they come to an agreement,
why they go to such lengths to come to an agreement.
(10:05):
I'm glad we got some of the audio here. But, again,
this is not that they looked at it and said, oh,
they put a second back on the clock where there
was none. They put time back on where they really
went to make sure, hey, have we exhausted every avenue
to see that we don't have a second back on
the clock for Michigan to have one more play?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, no, here it is.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
There's maybe less than half a second. Put that time
back on the clock. That just doesn't happen. And it
doesn't happen if Western Michigan isn't the one throwing the
Hail Mary.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
We have the super secret clock that has the tenths
of the second. Mike Pereira was asked for commentary on that,
our old friend. It's my understanding if there's a discrepancy
between the video and replay command center versus the television
network video that everybody sees. That replay is to use
the TV video. That's the same protocol in the NFL.
(10:56):
In the UFL, it's the same. You use the footage
that everybody sees if there's a discrepancy. The article goes
on to point on, this is the athletic. That is not, however,
spelled out in the NCAA's instant replay casebook. So, you know,
good old NCAA. Giant, thick rulebook. This one, there's empty
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space when it comes down. The game clock superimposed on
the replay monitor. So, yeah, fractional seconds do exist. So
this is what we should have on our clocks going forward, right?
Because they came out at the Big Ten very quickly
with the statement of, hey, 85 minutes before the game,
they sync everything up, right? Here's the lasers. We're all
on the same page.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Everything's good.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
All the clocks are in sync. Except here.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, the one clock here at the very end with
one second.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, look, we've seen the shenanigans with the play
clock before down to one second, right? Just two things
off the top of my head. Michigan lost a game
to Michigan State in 2001 where there was a ridiculous
second left on the clock and the game was at
Michigan State and Jeff Smoker throws a touchdown pass and
the game should have been over. and the 2009 Big
(12:09):
12 title game where Colt McCoy lost his head, throws
the ball out of bounds, and somehow there's still a
second left on the clock for them to kick a
game-winning field goal when I believe a berth in the
college football playoff was on the line. If Nebraska wins
that game, oh, no, no, no, no, hey, Big 12
teams will go to the playoff. But Texas needed to
win to get there. There should not have been a
second left. And they kicked the field goal to win
(12:30):
the game. And I vividly remember Bo Pelini walking off
the field, head coach of Nebraska, looking at the officials
and giving them a dismissive wave with his hand like,
you guys suck. Like, you know, we've seen that, right?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Like, this happens.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
We've seen shenanigans with the clock before. And, yes, this
was Michigan getting a favor done for them because it
was Michigan, right?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And like I said.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Did Texas get a favor done for them because, hey,
they could win and maybe go to the conference? Yeah,
of course they did. Michigan State's game is at home
against Michigan? Yeah, we've seen this before. But that's the
big thing to look at is that why are so
lengths gone to so much for some replays and some, nope,
the ball was down, the ball was here. Because I'm
telling you, if it's Western Michigan, they're not saying, wait, wait, wait, no, no,
(13:11):
put everybody back on the field, it's over.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, none of them are doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I commend everybody who has had all the class through
this Michigan was classy about it. Western Michigan, incredibly classy
about it. Yes, everybody is up in arms on it,
and the way Western Michigan accepted the loss, it was
a lot of class, and they didn't have to do that.
So that result is, okay, I'm glad for that, but just... Overall, like,
(13:35):
you know, look, no one's happy. And yeah, Michigan had
a favor done for them.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I was kind of digging the fact that winning him
in his postgame is like I was pretty sure there
was a second left, like based on what you were
looking at.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
What?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
But I like the fact that we got Jeff Smoker,
Colt McCoy and Bo Pelini in to this conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, you like that, huh?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So does this also mean that that's how the play
clock operates? Whenever we're having that half-ass, was this after
the clock struck zero, you know, that extra beat before?
It's like, ah, it really should have been a delay
a game, but ah, the snap got off. So do
we start playing games with that too? It's like, is
that on a secret clock? Like, what do we do?
How far do we want to take this?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean, look, they can choose to– it's like
calling holding on every play in the NFL. You can
call holding on every play. Do you choose to call
holding on every play? No, we pick where we want
to call holding. We pick where we want to get
really attentive about a snap on a play. And officials pick,
and the replay officials– they pick how far they want
to go with looking into a call.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Like, that happens.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I mean, like the replay officials, that's the big unknown.
That's what Pablo Torre should spend time finding out. You know,
instead of all the craziness with billionaires and money and
Magic Johnson.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, find out about this. Let's take a look and see.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
All these official reviews and see how they are and
make sure that every replay review is treated the same
way because it just isn't. I mean, I live in
a Michigan house, and I've seen every Michigan game for
35 years. I know they had a favor done. Would
that have happened if the game was at Western?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Would it have happened? No, probably not. But the game
was at the big house. It was there, Michigan. They
had a favor done.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think the thing is to just, okay, let's accept it,
and let's make sure something like this doesn't happen again
because now you've opened up a can of worms to
the final second left on a clock in a football game.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
All I know is I want two decimal points going forward.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I'll tell you, man. That's it. That may not be enough.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I need it to two digit. I need the decimal
point to two digits.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Dude, I don't know. That's enough. I think you need
three or four digits.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Really?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We're going to take it all the way out to
the 10,000.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's got to be like pie 3.14.176. I know I
can take it all the way through, man.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Cannot have that.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
No, it's funny. Like here's, here's your 0.8 seconds. And
I guess, all right, if you actually gave me that clock,
no argument. Problem is everybody saw zeros.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
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Speaker 6 (17:15):
What's going on, guys?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Hey, buddy. You're right. We're less than 48 hours away
from Patriots-Seahawks, man. We've made it.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
It's finally, finally here. Yes, sir. Again, I'm excited. You know,
these seasons, you reach these points where you don't think
you know anything and then you think you know a lot. Right? Yeah.
Maybe make a few wagers. And then we start finding out.
You know, start finding out time. And we'll probably make
(17:44):
too much of the first couple weeks because we always
do because it's all you have to go on, even
though we know we should know better. But these are
two teams that I do have strong feelings about. Again,
could end up being misguided. But I feel like Seattle's
the rare breed that could actually repeat. And I think
that the Patriots are going to find the typical– sort
(18:06):
of year after losing a Super Bowl-type regression, whatever you
want to call it, curse or whatever. I think there's
a lot of ominous signs there, and I think the
Seahawks have a chance to be, you know, they are
a special organization, and I think they have an opportunity
(18:27):
to do some special things.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Wow, this is new because usually every time we talk
about the Seahawks, basically from the end of last season, ah,
they'll never win again. They got lucky once. They lost
a running back. Sam Darnold's not going to do it again.
So to hear you say they could repeat is pretty interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Yeah, well, I mean, I love them in that Super Bowl.
I wasn't sure they were going to be able to
get by the Rams, and they obviously found a way
to do that, and there were some crazy– You know,
some crazy games there, but they found a way to
win those games. And there's nothing that you can discount
with the defense. Now, they've got some injuries going into
(19:07):
this game on the back end, and we'll see. But
I believe in Mike McDonald and his ability to scheme
around some things and make some things happen. He's pretty special,
and the GM's pretty special. And I don't, I mean...
It's not like you ask the quarterback to throw the
ball 60 times a game. And the running back was good,
(19:28):
not great. And if I'm them, I would– and that's
the sort of production you're looking for, and it's going
to be a bit of a mix. You're not really
looking for a bell cow. Then, you know, let somebody
else give him the real contract, and we get another
guy in here on a rookie contract. And, you know, I, I,
away we go. I, they'd gotten much better at the, uh,
(19:50):
at the point of attack on both sides of the
ball from where they were the last year under Pete Carroll. Um,
I don't know, man. Like I, I think they're, I
think they're pretty good. Uh, I, I think they're pretty good. And, um,
Clint Kubiak's a big loss. I get that. And we'll see.
The year before he got there, certainly the offense wasn't great.
(20:14):
But I think this quarterback's a whole lot better than
their last quarterback. And so, no, I buy him. I
buy the Seahawks. I think the Seahawks can repeat.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Speaking of those Rams, look, I could go off a
few good men and start talking about travel plans, and
I don't have the foggiest idea, blah, blah, blah, blah.
People react. They're three-and-a-half-point favorites against San Francisco over in Australia.
What say you?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
I like them. I mean, I'm not going to sit
here and tell you I'm a sports scientist, and I've
studied sleep patterns, and I have access to all the best–
medical data about what a flight does to you and
how an athlete responds to a flight and what's the
peak amount of time to stay over there.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'm going to trust that they have a half-decent idea.
I'm going to trust that between Sean McVay and Les
Snead and Kevin Demoff, that they're not just complete buffoons
who just decided to wing this. And they're like, well,
you know, whatever. We don't really like, I don't even
think I was going to say Foster's Lager, but I
don't even think Foster's Lager is big over there. You
know what I mean? And certainly Bloomin' Onions. I don't
(21:24):
think most people in Australia probably have a fricking clue
what a Bloomin' Onion is. But so whatever, like I just,
maybe they just didn't want to spend a whole lot
of time in Australia, but no, I think they're doing
it probably based on some significant research and I think
they have a markedly better team than San Francisco. I
think they're in better shape health wise overall than San Francisco. Um,
(21:47):
I don't, I don't buy the 49ers. I, I don't, um,
I really don't buy anything about them right now. And, uh,
it's weird, different stadium, different surface. It's all foreign. Two
teams taking a different approach to it. It's a lot
of variables. Certainly. Um, But I think the Rams know
(22:10):
what they're doing, and I think the Rams are going
to have their way with them.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
NFL insider Jason Lockett for our guest, Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
All right, let's get to some news from today.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Where, I mean, I don't know if this is going
to stop them from picking in the top three, but
Tua Tungavailoa will start week one for the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Maybe it's Steve Bartkowski after that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I mean, Penix isn't right. And when Penix gets enough
reps under his belt and he's fully cleared medically and
they think, you know, they're convinced that he can take
a hit, then it's going to be Penix. I could
see it being Penix by week three, honestly. Wouldn't surprise
me at all if they're 0-2 and starting to feel
(22:57):
the heat. And Pennix has now got a couple weeks
of practice, and we've watched Tua throw the ball 3.2
yards downfield 30 times a game. And everybody's just like,
what are we doing here? I think there's some buyer's remorse.
Not that they're paying him money, but he's taking up
a roster spot, and they did invest a significant amount
(23:17):
of time in him this offseason, and he was the
immediate guy they went after. when he became available, like.
But, yeah, I think it's a sunk cost. And, I mean,
if Pennix needs more than a couple weeks, do we
get a Cooper Rush buffer for a week or two
to buy more time? Like, it wouldn't surprise me. Too
(23:39):
many evaluators who I trust have not liked Tua for
a while, have not thought Tua's a starting quarterback for
a while, have thought that Tua's kind of broken as
a leader. His messaging, his body language, the way he
handles stuff in the locker room, the things that come
out of his mouth, I don't think people are buying
all that, unfortunately. You know, running and that element of
(23:59):
his legs helping him doesn't exist anymore, really, with the concussions.
And he's not going to push the ball down the field.
I mean, he's still fairly accurate, I guess, but the
kind of passes that we're talking about are pretty rudimentary.
It's a hard way to run your offense. And I
think Kevin Stefanski made a big mistake.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
To that end, what does it say that the Steelers
are only a three-point favorite at home against this squad?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I would get on that line now. I mean, it's
a different cast there in Atlanta than Miami and what
Tua was playing with last year, and it won't be
as cold as when Tua went there when he was
in Pittsburgh late in the year. We know he doesn't
like playing the cold, but I just think that defense
(24:45):
is going to be a bad matchup for him. Yeah,
I'm not feeling Atlanta. I'm not feeling Atlanta. probably a
low-scoring game. I'm going to be looking at the under,
and I don't think Atlanta's scoring a lot of points themselves.
I think Pittsburgh can cover that number because I don't
(25:06):
think Atlanta's going to put up a whole.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Lot of points. All right, Jay, last time we get
to talk to you before the season starts on Wednesday night,
you talked about how much you like Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Your pick for the Super Bowl. Is it Seattle making
it back? Who is it against? If it's the Jets,
it's okay. You can say the Jets. It's all right.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
You really probably shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Just credibility-wise.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Sure, yeah. I'll give it some thought. This is off
the top of my head because I haven't really bet
a Super Bowl. I haven't really thought a whole lot
about the Super Bowl. There's teams I like more than others.
But let's... I don't know. I'm thinking maybe Denver and...
(25:56):
Let's go crazy. Let's see. Yeah. We're not going to
go crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Go crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Go crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Denver's 20 to one.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
The Chicago bears.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
How about that?
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Bears 24 to one Denver, 20 to one. That's a
nice payday.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Um, I like probably the Broncos side of it more
than the bears. Cause I worry about the bears pass rush,
but like, I don't know, maybe they do something between
now and deadline. Um, Maybe they trade for Max Crosby
or something. But I do like those teams. I think
that people are– those teams are probably not getting their due.
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Denver in particular, because I think they're really balanced. I
think Chicago's offense is going to be dynamite. We just
have to see about the defense. They're probably not going
to get as many turnovers as last year. And they
sure are some things up. But I think they're going
to be a fun team to watch, and they're going
to play some exciting games. and I think the quarterback's
going to light it up.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
He's on Twitter, at Jason Lock and 4. That is
at Jason Lock and 4. Check him out on SI
as well, Jay. As always, buddy, thanks. We'll join you
next week. We'll be breaking down week one.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Let's go. Fired up. Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
See you, buddy. Hit them hard.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
There goes Jason locking for it, and a very happy
Mike Harmon. Chicago Bears and Super Bowl being thrown around.
It's come a long way since the Northwest Indiana Bears, man.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
No, that's it. I mean, you got Roger Goodell with
his shiny new extension. He's been talking up, hey, I'd
like to keep in Chicago and all that stuff, so
maybe they'll fight there. But, man, I still got a
lot of White Sox baseball to go before I can
turn my attention fully to the Bears. And a 1-0
Northwestern squad.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think it's time to realize what's the most important
thing here, and that's the Bears. I think you have
to realize that now.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But they'll still be playing meaningful football into the holidays.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You hope. Well, look at this.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
All of a sudden, you think that's just going to happen?
You just think it happens that good football gets played?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's not something you and I are used to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
When the Bears start 0-6, it's going to wind up
being your fault for that right there. You put that
out there. I don't have to worry about the Bears.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Meaningful football is happening.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Look, man, I got a White Sox squad that's barging
and rumbling and stumbling towards the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Nope, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
It's two days. I got a quarterback that might pass
for more than 4,000 yards.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You turned your back on the Bears.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I do not have to worry about the Bears.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Nope.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Just like Tyson Bajet and Caleb Williams are hanging out
at White Sox games, I'm right there invisibly with them.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
0-2, 0-3, 0-4. We were doing great until Harmon decided
to say, I don't got to worry about the Bears
until the holidays.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
All right, all right.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I just said the White Sox have more of my attention.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You just said you're supporting the Bears with invisibility.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
No, no, no. I'm saying, like, they all go to
each other's games.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It's a very cool.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Thing that's going on with the superstars of Chicago. but
I'm doing it in an invisible form. I'm supporting you,
but I'm invisible.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
No, be loud when I need to be loud, but
I'm just saying a lot of my energy is still
invested in the Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I'm going to use that. I'm going to support you,
but invisibly. I'm doing it, yeah. Pretend I'm there, but
I'm really not going to.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
A lot of folks do that in certain... Things that they,
you know, how they vote.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Not going to do it. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'll support you, but really just don't say my name.
Don't quote me, but pretend I'm standing there with you.
That's how it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
There you go. The invisible support of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Get on that invisible Bears bandwagon. Plenty of room. Like
Wonder Woman's jet.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
You just really have a hearing problem. But it made
for a good bit, and it entertained you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You just said you have no time for the Bears.
You said that. You said, I got the White Sox
in Northwestern. You said you had no time for the Bears.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at 10 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Pacific.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So, happy Monday. Happy Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We'll get back to football coming up in a few minutes.
But just this is starting to gain a lot of
attention online. And after seeing the games and watching everything happening.
Something is up with Team USA at the Worlds in FIBA.
Right now, they run away, you know, over Chechya today. Sure.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You know, 155-7, right? This game was never in doubt.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Same like it, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Tough time a day ago with Italy. Very difficult.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But a video starting to gain a lot of attention
in the last couple hours, and this is near the
end of the blowout with about three minutes to go
in the fourth quarter. Kaitlyn Clark hits a three, right?
Makes a score like 99-58, but Kaitlyn Clark hits a three.
And the camera pans to Team USA's bench, and Jackie
Young and Kalia Copper are sitting there, and Jackie Young
(31:08):
claps in. And you hear her. She turns over to you.
She turns over. She turns her and says, you better clap.
And then copper just, you know, then, you know, get
your hands up and starts clapping. This tells you that
something is up with Team USA. And now I look
(31:30):
and I go. they must be barely keeping a lid
on whatever jealousy relationship situations they have with each other, right?
Because I look at this and I go, I don't
know if this is a Caitlyn Clark thing only. Like,
I can't say, oh, this is Caitlyn Clark. I'm not clapping.
But there is something going on because you can see
that whether it's Caitlin Clark or we talked about last
(31:52):
week that maybe it's just the olds and the youngs.
Maybe it's just the old guard doesn't like the young
players because look at how this team has played since
they started this tournament. All the veterans are starting and
they're all playing together. And then what happens? Then it's
like a line change, right? Then it's Caitlin Clark and
Paige Beckers and, and, uh, and then Angel Reese all
(32:14):
come into the game together, right? And then you get
a couple other players come in and mix it. But
then you always get Collier, Stewart, Young, Copper, and Gray.
They all play together, right? They all play the 15,
20 minutes together, and you get a little more minutes
from the younger players.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So I look at this.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I can't tell you that it is a that it's
a Caitlin Clark thing, but it really looks like it's
an it's an old and a young thing because they
don't seem like they can play together at all. They
seem to struggle. There seems to be no flow with
the team. You can tell that when the veterans play,
they struggle a little bit more. I mean, look, you
look at the plus minuses they have for the game
(32:48):
versus what You know, the younger players have for the game.
And you can tell there is something going on and
that it might just be more than, well, nobody seems
to like Caitlin Clark. And, you know, look, the other
teammates are freezing her out. They're not passing to her.
But you just see the way the playing time.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Is doled out.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
And how the vets all play together, the young players
play together, and you see this, you better clap. This
tells you that there's something going on with support for
the team that has had to be addressed. Because there's
no way Jack Young is telling Copper, you better clap unless, hey,
there's something going on and we can't let this blow up.
You know Coach is going to get mad or whoever's
(33:28):
going to get mad, but there is some sort of
support thing happening with Team USA today that is just
under the surface right now that we're not getting because
the team is still winning going on. But just see,
when a teammate has to remind somebody to clap, you
know there's something going on. And at some point, I
think we'll find out. I hope it doesn't take United
States laws to find out, but.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
You can tell there's something there.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I think some of it, you get to the
divide between the veterans and recognizing their time on this
stage is running to an end. We had a little
bit of that with the women's soccer squad. We've had that.
with the U.S. men's basketball squad. They don't want to
go into the good night, right? Pick any of those teams,
the guys that are on their third or fourth Olympics
(34:11):
in a lot of the sports. There's a lot of divide.
It's just a question of how easily seen it is
to the naked eye. When it comes to clapping on
the bench, that one's always a tough one for me
because I know there's a lot of times like, yeah,
you want everybody to be fired up, but then there's
also the Yeah, we're beating them by 35. Who the
hell cares?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Right, but the fact that she's reminded of it means
that was something that was brought up.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That was a focal point that was brought up.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, that's the curiosity behind the scenes. What is it
in terms of, hey, you've got to act to the cameras?
Because in the end, as long as you're winning, they
don't have to be best buds. We talk about this
all the time. You don't have to be the best friends,
but sometimes you need to look like your best friend.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I mean, if you can do it, look, and the
thing is, is like, you know, Caitlin Clark and Angel
Reese can't stand each other, but they look like best
friends on the floor, right? They can put it aside
to go win, right?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't see that among the rest of this team.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
See, I think they also recognize it's good business, or
at least Angel Reese does.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Man, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
We got more on this and more on big NFL
and college football coming up next right here.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
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