September 4, 2026 • 36 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon were locked, loaded, and ready to entertain the masses on a busy night in sports. Jason tells you why Rutgers Football is the reason you don't bet Week 1 of college football. Any chance Dabo Swinney and Clemson wake up tomorrow refusing to play LSU? And the guys reacted to The Athletic releasing their Dianna Russini/Mike Vrabel investigation findings!
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
So tonight is a big night for... Like, lots of
legal stuff. Like, we got legal stuff with North Carolina.
We got legal stuff at LSU. We have what's next
for whatever Pablo Torre is going to find out. We
got lots of legal stuff. Like, put your whatever law
hat you have on tonight that just says law on it.
(00:48):
Good thing I've been watching Waterston and Harry Hamlin and
all those guys for years.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm ready to go. A little Corbin Bernson thrown in
there as well. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But....
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This out of college football tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Tonight was the official opening of week one of college football.
We had week zero last week and now the official
opening of week one, which next year will be week one. Anyway,
the marquee game of the night, because we saw it
come down. UMass went into tonight's game against Rutgers, and
people are on social media right now going, why is
(01:25):
Rutgers trending?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah. And just so everybody knows, it's Rutgers. It's not Rutgers.
It's Rutgers. That's how you say it. Well, it's the
State College of New Jersey. It's Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's how you say it. It's always been said, Rutgers.
You have to say R's when you have to, but
you don't say all the R's, right? Just like Tony Soprano.
It's Rutgers. It's Rutgers. That's how you say it. It's
not Rutgers. It's Rutger Hauer, the actor, but it's Rutgers.
How do you think Gandolfini would have handled this one?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, boy. He'd have been in the locker room at
the end of the game. As a guy who used
to do a bunch of promos and other stuff for
the school.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, oh, boy. Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
UMass comes into this game off an 0-12 season last year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
2-10 the year before. 2-8 before that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
3-9. 1-11.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
1-11. 0-4, 1-11, last four-win season all the way back
to 2018.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Four wins in the last three years, and it's a
money game, right?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah. Okay, hey, Rutgers is, you know, hey, we're good.
Greg Sciano's like, yeah, we're good, man.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
We're good. We're opening up against UMass.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
0-12 last year, Rutgers was a 29-and-a-half-point favorite.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
29-and-a-half points.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
There's a big point to make coming out of this
game because this is what happened tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Watson taking a shot.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Griffin in the end zone. Oh, yeah, to the football. Touchdown, UMass,
31 yards.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Kimmins through the hole.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And that's going to do it. It opened wide. A
touchdown for Curtis Kimmins, the fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And UMass is going to head back to its home
state with one of its largest.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Wins in school history. It's over, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Big Ted Network on the call.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
UMass beats Rutgers tonight 37-21. With the points, you win
that game 67-21. So you walk away comfortably with a win.
You paid them to score... You pay them $ 42, 000 a
point to run it up on you. That's pretty good.
That's pretty good. $ 1. 55 million, the purse, reportedly, for UMass
(03:36):
on this one. Now, this is a very big lesson, right?
This is a learning time right now. Like, there's sometimes
on the show, we break down opinions, we entertain, make
you laugh, make you think. This is a learning exercise
right now, okay? This is a learning exercise.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
This is why.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You don't bet college football week one. This is why
you do not. If you want to bet, there's other
games out there for your money that you actually know
stuff about, that we've seen people play, that we know.
And okay, I can go out there. I know what's
going to happen tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
MLB.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This is why you don't bet college football week one.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, go back to last week, right? The USC game.
38 and a half was the spread.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Did you think those guys were going to play a
full game in the 185-degree sweltering heat?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They dominated for a half. They sat down. They win
by far less than the spread.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
If you bet week one a collar, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Really?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
What's going on? You're trying to find your advantage.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Right, but there's no advantage. You're saying, I'm going to
bet something. What do you know about this?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Not much. Oh, okay. Like, what do you mean not much? Like,
I don't know anything. What do you know about the teams? Nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, why don't you know anything? Well, they haven't played
anybody yet. Well, you mean they haven't played anybody good? No,
they haven't played anybody. It's just been scrimmages.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Um.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And you're okay betting this?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Why?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Because it's football. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
There's other, I mean, look, there's other places you can go.
It's just about being smart, right? It's being a smart bettor.
It's being a smart, you know, investor in your gambling future.
Why would you bet a sport? College football is the
only sport where you have zero bets. evidence of a
team coming into week one that you can say, yes,
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they're good, no, they're no good. Even the NFL, where
teams aren't playing anybody, you have an idea. The players
are known quantities. When they sign in free agency, you
know how they are coming up and how they've done
in the spring, how they've done in the summer, how
they've done in the joint practice. You have a better
idea of that. In In baseball, in the exhibition season,
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you know what pitchers look good, what pitchers are strong.
You have some information going on in all the other,
even college basketball. You have more because you see teams, hey,
we're playing a couple of preseason games here.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We're doing X, Y, and Z. College football is zero.
It's we're starting. We're starting. What do you know?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I know absolutely nothing because I've not seen any of
these teams play. Why are you betting week one of
college football?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I think there's going to be.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Better examples where we look at the spread, certainly not
four plus touchdowns, right? That's where you start getting into foolishness,
because there's a million ways that that can go wrong
and sideways on you, as the example of USC a
week ago.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Same thing here.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You're putting 29 and a half points. I don't care
how bad UMass is.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's Rutgers. They're a 500 squad. at best.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So you're looking at trying to be judicious. What's the turnover?
What's the coaching staff?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
All of that. I mean, there's metrics. You can do it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
This is not a game deep down on the board
that you say, yep, that's the one. But there's no games.
Because week one generally is a week of Powers playing
lesser teams. You don't know about the weather, how much
guys are going to be able to play, how much
teams are going to ease off the break.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You have no idea.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Hey, I'm 1-0 on my picks this year, okay? I
had Belichick in the rain and the beer in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm 1-0. I took my plus 8.5 and I danced.
You got lucky. What do you mean I got lucky?
You got lucky. Hey, swarmed.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I saw the rain coming in Ireland, and I knew
that was going to happen. Well, I've been to Ireland
a couple times. I know it's going to rain at
some point. It's like Florida in the later part of
the summer. You did that, and that's even more dicey
and risky because you can't even say.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Who's got home field. I don't even know. What does
that mean?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I don't know how the team's traveled. I don't know
how these college teams are packing and moving on and
playing overseas. I don't know how the weather's going to be.
I don't know what game day experience is going to be,
which team is going to be able to– handle all
the outside noise going into the game like it's i
mean we know absolutely zero why would you bet on
(08:01):
something that you know absolutely zero about i mean going
all the way through this weekend like i would think
hey syracuse back steve angeli awesome yeah great i'm not
betting syracuse this weekend i mean come on man what
what I don't get where you think, oh, I have
the insight. I know where this is going to go.
Week one of college football is the biggest dice roll
you could possibly have. I can't listen to anybody that says,
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I know week one. I know this game right here.
I know week one of college football.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You want me to cancel, Todd? I know.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I know week one of college football. 32 to 34
point favorite this week against New Hampshire. You're Syracuse Orange.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean, they could win. They could win 38-3. They
could win 35-21. They could win 28-14, right? They could
lose 35-20. You don't know. I mean, in life, just
think in life, okay?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
If you have money that, here's $ 50, let's just say,
whatever you bet.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, $ 50.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And I could have you bet that When these two
kids or these two people have a race, okay?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Who are you going to bet to win? I thought
you were going to have a fight. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
These two kids on the playground. Hey, he looks hungry.
That guy stole his shovel. No, these two, whoever, these two,
they're going to have a race. Okay, well, once I know...
This kid's on the track team for a long time.
I know what his times were the last couple of years.
I know what's going on here. I know he's won
three races already this year. He's done pretty well. I
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know the other kids got a little bit of an injury.
I don't know if he's going to be able to
make it. He's coming back from a hamstring. I know
I have enough information to bet on the first kid
because I've seen him and I know.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Okay? All right.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I know stuff and I can bet. Are you taking
$ 50 and, okay, you're going to bet on these two
people having a race? What do you know about them? Well,
one kid's really tall, so he looks faster. The other
one's smaller, shorter. Well, what do you know about him?
What's he done this year?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I don't know. Neither of them have had a race. Okay. Well,
what did they do last year?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Year?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, he didn't really race last year. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So what are you going to do? Well, I kind
of like that one guy, so I'm going to bet
on him. Like, you're not doing that. Lots of folks
go to the racetrack and say, hey, I like the
look of that horse, or he's got the pink suits.
That's people who want to go out and go, whatever
the money I'm spending today, I'm losing. I'm realizing I'm
spending this money to have a good time. But it's
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the same thing here. It's an entertainment vehicle.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, no, that's different.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
If you're investing, you're not saying, all right, let me
go to Rutgers and UMass as my lock of the week.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Oh, really?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Oh, okay. Go on social media and take a look
at someone who had, I think, Rutgers as their lock
of the year.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I think I know who that is. But just
get like, if you go to the racetrack, right? I've
been to the track. I know, okay, am I going
to win money?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, I'm there. There's Dollar Beer, Dollar Hot Dogs. I
like the name of this horse. I like that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
See, I can teach you if you want to go
to the harness. We can teach you a system, and
you'll win pretty consistently. If that was the case, you
wouldn't be here next to me if you were winning
in harness racing consistently. I'm not saying I'm getting rich.
You'd have the jaunty hat and the real stubby cigar.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I do.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That would be you. I don't have the cigar. You'd
have to have that, though. That's a good look. That's
a good look. I know I'm going there and I'm
spending money to have fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Right? This is where I'm spending money on college football
because I think I'm going to win and I want
to win.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No, it's the same thing. No, it's not. It's an
entertainment vehicle and a stressor for three hours.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That is so different. How is it any different? It's
a wager.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's a parimutuel wagering versus whatever your book is. You're
wagering because you want to win.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Of course. In both cases, you want to win. Yeah,
but if you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Lose when you're betting the racetracks, like, okay, well, I'm
here having fun.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I'm watching them. What do I really know about the
horse races?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
But if you're betting Rutgers and UMass, in theory, you've
actually looked into both teams in terms of their roster
turnover in the All-22, game plans, et cetera, versus, like,
you just got the... The sheet handed to you at
the rail and you go, ah, seven. What all 22
have you seen? There's no games. No, but you're extrapolating
off of what these guys have done else in their past.
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If they've transferred in, whatever, it's the same thing. You
have like betting week one of the NFL. Are you
going to tell people not to do that too?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No, that's where you have a lot of, you have
an entire, you have the entire preseason. You have an
off season. You've seen the guys play. You saw them
work together for a series in the preseason. How many,
how many games practices, how many times you see joint
practices games? Do you see teams on the field over
the course of the preseason?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
A lot.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Probably six times. You see how players play. You see
when the first team plays the first team of another team.
When you go for the joint practices that go three,
four days, you at least have some sort of working knowledge.
You have games. You have times you have seen them
on the field against another team that has a different
color uniform. You do not have that in college football. Sure,
they put the different pennies on and they get after it.
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All right, white team over here, red team over here.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
All right, let's go. Let's go get them. Let's go
get them, guys. Let's go. Let's go. Okay, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Why?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Why?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
There's better places you could go, or at least you
could think. There's a lot of better places. If I
want to do that, I'd go to a slot machine.
Betting college football is like going to a slot machine, right?
There's a difference between going to a slot machine and
going to play at a poker table, where you can
use strategy. You have some kind of knowledge to go.
Betting week one of college football is– You also don't
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know the players that are at the table with you
if you go play poker. But you have a little
bit of knowledge of the game and their strategy, way
to impact. Yeah, those other six people. If that guy's
hiding behind his sunglasses, you've got no idea.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, that's why they call it gambling. But at least
you have some kind of knowledge. You have zero knowledge
of week one of college football. Here you get three
hours of entertainment. Yeah, but you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
How entertained are you if you bet Rutgers tonight? You'll
be smarter about your research tomorrow. I am never betting
Greg Sciano again.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That is never happening.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That might be the lesson you learned. It's all a
learning experience.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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after we get off the air. So a big night
in college football. We've already seen what happens when you
(15:52):
bet Rutgers. We have big stuff involving North Carolina and
Bill Belichick coming up in a half hour. But this
big news item that came through, this news is about
45 minutes old. A Louisiana judge has cleared the NFL
players who wanted to return to college after getting cut
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this summer. Daquan Wright was at the head of this.
Zavian Harris as well. LSU and Lane Kiffin said, yes,
we're recruiting these guys. We'll come back and play. Everybody
else is going to. Why wouldn't we do it? Not
many other people in college football really like this. The
conferences don't. SEC clearly doesn't. They talked earlier in the
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day about potentially bringing lawsuits or bringing some sort of
action against LSU if they play these players who went
to the NFL, got cut, and are coming back. These
guys that still have eligibility left. So now this judge
has granted an injunction for these pro players seeking their
return to LSU. Now there's two big things coming out
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of this. The first one, well, actually the first one
is that are we surprised that Lane Kiffin's at the
center of this? Like the bad boy of college football,
like he's the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Like, of course, he's the guy. He is the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He's looking under every rock for a competitive advantage. Or
is he looking for a grandstand to make headlines? Because
he's the only one making headlines.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Maybe. He's the only guy. Nobody else is taking these
kids back. Nobody else. But, oh, we'll take them back. Why? Why? Because.
I could do it. We're LSU, right? Lane Kiffin's the
only one.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
The thing he has done with all of this grandstanding,
players coming back to LSU, and then the crazy story
last night that, hey, when he was at Alabama, Nick
Saban had to call around to bars and say, make
sure he's not He doesn't hit on co-eds. Yeah, that
was a whole other thing. That'll be a TV miniseries
soon enough. What Lane Kiffin has done is he has
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put a clock on his time at LSU. With the
outside-the-box involvement in a story like this that nobody else
in college football wants, the embarrassment, the attention that LSU
does not want, they want to win. And now, obviously,
the stories that came out from the book that we
found out yesterday about what he did at Alabama. Now
we know why he didn't get the job at Alabama.
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He has put a clock on his time at LSU.
He is a very controversial subject. He is someone who
has always courted controversy. He is always, yeah, where's Conner?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm here. Usually people walk around, no, don't walk down
that alley. Why not?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
There's controversy in that alley. Most people would walk right by.
They would take a peek down and go, is there
controversy down there?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'm not going. Lane Kiffin would just say, he would
run down the alley. He runs to the light. And
he would yell, where is the controversy? Controversy, come get me.
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And if there was no, he would keep running back
and forth until controversy came out. Until controversy alley came
out to get him. I think he's describing how influencers
try to make their money on the interwebs right now.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Whatever time he had to win at LSU.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Over the past few months, he has cut that in
half because there's not going to be a lot of
patience if he doesn't win. There's not going to be
a lot of patience for the attitude he has had
towards college football outside of this if he does not win.
Why you would do that to yourself, I don't know,
but Lane Kiffin's always been his worst enemy, many times
over the course of his career. So I don't see
how this was something that you really want to stand
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on this by let's get these two kids coming back
or whatever kids want to come back from the NFL
to come back.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You've moved on. You've got your recruits. You have your team.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
If you're recruiting smartly, you have players come back. I
get that you have guys, well, these guys were good
in college, really were coming back. But now if you
don't win with them, suddenly the– ability that LSU will
have to be patient with you is getting cut. Now it's,
if you're giving them controversial headlines and you're not winning,
forget it, man. They're going to say, we're going to
buy you out. We spent a lot of money to
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get you, but we can put that money down. We
spent a lot of money to get Brian Kelly. We
bought that guy out really fast. We spent a lot
of money to get you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Guess what? We'll buy you out really fast. They have
that money. LSU has that turnover money.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You notice last week in his broadcast debut for the season,
Brian Kelly went out of his way to sideswipe Lane Kiffin.
He used some, well, let's just call it unsavory terms
in doing so. It's like, wow, you got Brian Kelly
calling you those names. That means you're that low? I mean,
come on, because Brian Kelly, there's plenty. So the SEC
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sued LSU in the District Court in Alabama on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
This is a great term. Alleging the university is violating
the league's First Amendment right of expressive association by ignoring
their rules that prohibit signing and playing former NFL players. So, yeah,
you've now put the university on notice. I on some levels,
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you know, there's the part of me that's like, all right,
if this forces everybody to finally get together at a
big boy table and come together and it did right.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
This is the most unifying thing.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That has happened in college athletics in a long time
other than. hey, let's go count the pile of money
we made by expanding the playoffs. That's the only thing
that everybody's agreed on. Everything else has been territorial and
building their fiefdoms. This one, you actually have a united
force with the exception of one man. The other part
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of it, with knowing that you cut your time in half, right?
But again, that's Lane Kiffin. He does this.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Is this actually going to happen?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Are we actually going to see these guys coming back
to college football to play? Luckily, we're here because I
can tell you the future. You can see the future.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Nobody wants this. There is no other school. William Jordan
wanted this. The honorable William Jordan. Okay. E-N, not A-N.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, now we know, hey, what have we seen in
the world in the last few years, whatever it is. Hey,
I don't like the ruling I get in court. I'm
going to go to another court until a judge tells me.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What I want to hear. Well, that's always been the case.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
If you have enough resources behind you, you can keep
the appeal process going forever. This is why college football,
if you had a commissioner, if you had somebody, things
would be different.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But no, we don't have it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But as I mean, at least here, we all got
to this.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Well, most people got to the same table.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But the thing is, is that nobody wants this. The
SEC doesn't want it. How long until the SEC says,
you keep these kids, we're not playing you. We're not
going to play you Saturday. How long until the SEC
says that?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
An hour?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Is it going to be by the time we get
off the air tonight? Is it going to be 9
o'clock tomorrow morning? Is it going to be midday on Friday?
Is it going to be Friday afternoon where they find
out LSU, we're not going to allow them to play
if they let these kids back? For some reason, for
whatever reason, college football really does not want this. And
I don't know why this is something that the entire
sport wants to die on the mountain of. Of all
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the things I could say, what do they want to
die on the mountain of?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
NIL? Yes, I get it. Transfer? Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The handful of players that want to come back to
college football after getting cut by teams. This is what
suddenly everybody is united and against so bad?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Really? This is where you are? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You got as many as 40, right? It was 16
in the initial lawsuit. But where it's always gotten a
little ham-handed in all of this... go figure college sports
is the fact that once you open the door and
guys were starting to cash checks, I mean, I was
reading a big thought piece on Caleb Williams, right? Is
10 plus million dollars that he made while at, while
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in college at USC that is like, well, I don't
need to do this.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I want to do this.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I want to be great talking about his time with
the bears showing up in Chicago, how he's embraced the city,
all these other things.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And it's just that.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Reminder of, all right, we bastardized the whole college football thing.
It's not college football anymore. For a select few, for
UMass guys, for my beloved Northwestern. No, I mean, even there,
you've got that fine line between guys that are excelling
and working on the academic side versus guys that are
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there to play football and go on down the line.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'm not saying that it's 100%. Clearly, it's a wide.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
wide berth going going back many years but as soon
as you started being able uh legally by rules to
collect massive paydays to the tune of 10 million dollars
or what we're hearing what arch manning's gonna make that
plus this year right and guys uh bouncing around we
watched it with uh carson beck going to miami what
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was it six million dollars or something like that when
he when he went down there to play that you've
already become pros. So if there's a, hey, come on
back in, the water's fine, you got to figure out
how to bone up on those eligibility rules because we're
long past the once you get paid element to any
of it. I mean, really, what are the odds that tomorrow...
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Dabo Sweeney says, we're not playing Saturday. I mean, that's
the marquee game of the day.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Saturday, right?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, a guy that doesn't want to do any of
the New World College football anyway, right?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, yeah, he's still struggling with, you know, this NIL
stuff that's come up. You know, I don't really like that.
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I don't like the transfer portal. So he's dealing with
stuff that is, like, way old, like three years old.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He's trying to catch up. Yeah, he is a friendster
in a world of Instagram. Oh.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Do you want.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
To explain to people what Friendster might have been?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
No, you get it or you don't.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh, Friendster, I get it. Or he's a MySpace in
a world of Instagram.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Hi, Tom. Really, what are the odds?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
What are the odds that you see Clemson say tomorrow,
if he's going to play these guys, we're not playing him?
If he's going to play, we're not, or if they
agree to play, but we're not going to play. Like,
this is not going to just go away where the
SEC and other schools are going to throw up their
hands and go, ah, what can you do?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
He tried it. He wants it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, they have talked about banning together and not playing teams.
that sign these players. We're talking about sanctions and everything else. Really,
that's the next step, and that could be tomorrow. Again,
I'm not going to be surprised if we wake up
tomorrow morning and headline, Sweeney, we won't play if NFLers play.
Do you think they'll be knocking on a judge's door
at midnight tomorrow night as we're finishing our Friday show?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We found a judge to sign this form. Well, that's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You know, I got to say, from watching all the
TV I've seen, you can find a judge anytime you
want to.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Now, generally, judges are always at home. In a robe.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's at night, in a robe, in their study. And
the cops come to see them. And, you know, the
judge tells his wife or she tells her husband, it's okay,
they're here. And they sit down and they go, you
better be right about this. We got a running clock, Judge.
We got a running clock. It's always the judge's career
is at stake.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh, absolutely. My career is at stake. No, we got
the story. We got it.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
If this goes bad, I'll have your ass. So I
know the judges work hard. They generally work until about
5 or 6 o'clock. And any time they're at home,
they're in a robe enjoying the night. And knocking on
a judge's door is, like, the worst thing you could
ever want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like, there's other things, like... Oh, it's the sanctity of
the home. I see it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I see in the movies where these cops would rather
get into shootouts with the bad guys than I don't
want to go to a judge's home.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I don't want to disturb them at home. Like, you
disturb a judge at home, it's like.
Why would I poke the bear?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Or you get into all of that firefight, and then
you say, well, we'll get the warrant tomorrow. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
No, no, no. That's the thing, man. It's procedural.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But I'm sure right now somewhere in Louisiana there's judges
who are up going, okay, put some coffee on.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
We're going to have some company. People are going to
come over.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Put on our show. Let's watch the second half. Of
Illinois UAB. Archie, Debo Swinney is here. It's Dabo Swinney. Yeah,
Debo is here to see you. Wait, Kalen DeBoer is here? No,
he didn't say Kalen. He said Debo. Debo Swinney.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I said Dabo.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Debo Samuel, he plays in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
He's not trying to come back to college, is he? No, no, no.
We got Debo. No, we got Debo.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh, wait, the guy from Friday is here? No, no,
that's a different guy. I'm going to let him in.
I'm going to let him into the side. Yeah, come
around the side. Come around the side.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Come around the side. And it's always a lush robe, too. Oh, always.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's not like some, hey, like, robe I just bought
at Bed Bath & Beyond before they closed down. Like,
it's a real, hey, this is a really, it's a
silky robe or, yeah, it's like, yeah. If you're going
to live your life wearing a robe by the day,
if you're in one at night, I mean, that's luxury time.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
100%.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
There's not a lot to the robes in a courtroom.
Just wait. I mean, if I wake up tomorrow. I mean,
it's not quite Ric Flair.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
No. But it's somewhere in between. Dabo says we won't play.
I am not going to be surprised. Dabo.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Dabo.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Did you say Dabo's coming? I want to take college
football back to the 1980s. where players got paid illegally,
just like we used to do. And we liked it.
And guys couldn't transfer. They'd have to sit out four
years in between transfer.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And they may never see the field again.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Exit out about a fresca. Exit swollen dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, a big story in the NFL. We spent
the entire summer and a lot of the spring breaking down,
asking what's next. It looks like it's over. What is it?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's straight ahead. Jason and Mike, Fox.
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And rip that knob off. So a big day legally.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I feel like, you know, if you need to have
a working knowledge of, well, law and order, LA law,
lots of stuff. Because smack dab of all this college
football stuff, the LSU ruling.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That came in, the.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
North Carolina story we're going to get to coming up
in a few minutes, which is just absolutely crazy. The
final update, I would say, in the Mike Vrabel Diana
Rossini saga dropped earlier today, where we've been waiting for
a while for The Athletic to come out with the
results of their investigation into her coverage of Mike Vrabel.
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Did it cross the line? Their suspected affair? It's been
a big deal all summer long. And The Athletic put
their findings out today. Basically said that, yeah, well, some improprieties, but, nah,
nothing crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Wait, what? That about sums it up pretty nicely. We
didn't have access to her phone. We didn't talk to
her at all.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So what we found is some stuff that made us
uncomfortable in her reporting, right?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They went over her.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
interview that she had done they went over her articles
that she had written they went over her podcast hits
and they found that yeah some stuff that makes you
uncomfortable but nothing well over the top mike semel the
editorial director for standards and quality said they reviewed 903
stories 204 podcasts 77 videos Why did you even do it?
(31:18):
This is useless. I could have done this. I could
have said, you know what?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Hire me. Pay me a lot of money. I'll go
through all this. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'll go through all this stuff, and then I'll come
out with my findings. And they'd say, okay, great, here's $ 25, 000.
And I would have sat on my ass for three months,
said I did all this, but really I wouldn't have
to do anything, and then come out at the end
and say, yeah, I found stuff that was a little uncomfortable,
but yeah, nothing crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I saved my money, and all I did was go
to the beach.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Why are you going after consultants? I mean, editorial research
people like this.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
This was useless. Any of us could have done this.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You went through all of these different radio interviews and
TV interviews, to come out with something and have a
statement that we already knew. Yeah, stuff was uncomfortable. That's
why you're investigating. But we didn't have access to her phone.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Did interview her. Okay, well, did you ask? Did she
tell you no? Did you interview other people around it?
Did you interview the people that she said was with
them at the.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Resort that was going to, you know, corroborate her story? Like,
what kind of interview did you do?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You just went back and looked at the stuff that
was public knowledge?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Really?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Like, that passes for a great investigation? This was absolutely useless.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
This entire time.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
One of the lines in the findings was, well, much
of it was unrelated to Vrabel. It's like, yes, she
covers a league. So... I saw a couple of the
lines in the write-up talking about the maybe she didn't
go as harshly at his coaching and results as she
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would have otherwise. But you can dismiss that, I think,
and you can disagree. But you go market to market.
insider to insider, reporter to reporter, man, there's certainly a
lot of soft shoe work to make sure you maintain access.
So how much was it there? I mean, the voting
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on the league awards, I think there's a question that
needs to be raised, right? Like, that was kind of
seemingly out of line, but like anything, you make the
argument and defend your choice. But did you sway things?
Did it sway any of the movement and player movement
based on and how she reported things? Like, I didn't
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get any sense that there was any deep dive into that,
that it was just more a cursory, we went through,
it was like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
What are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Now, here is Mike Vrabel from today being asked about
his reaction to the athletics report that.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Hey, we got stuff that was uncomfortable. You know, hey,
what's your reaction, Mike? No, I don't have any reaction.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
We're moved on and focused on Seattle and focused on
the Patriots and focused.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
On getting better this week. Fully behind you.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Try to just say that I've moved on and excited
about this new opportunity here as we start this season. Yeah,
he's walking around right now going, whew, that's the last
bullet I had to dodge was the athletics report because
everything else seems to have been taken care of. It's
we need more videos or we need the athletics report
to uncover things. And now he knows I have dodged
this bullet. I will be able to coach now. And yes,
(34:26):
this is going to follow me for the rest of
my career, but I can be the Patriots head coach.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I can move on and not have to worry about
getting fired.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Of all of this to say, and I'm just looking
at something– that we've seen now many times over the
course of my time covering and dealing with football. Not
the first and not nearly the last time a story
that was potentially incredibly embarrassing to the NFL peters out
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and nothing is found. How many times does a story
get out there, wow, this is going to be really
embarrassing to the NFL, and at the end it just
gets choked off? where there's no more oxygen, the story
doesn't go anywhere, and it just dies. That happens virtually
every single time. Sometimes it takes a little bit longer
than others, but most of the time, this is really
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bad for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
And what happens?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh boy, a few months later, yeah, well, there's nowhere
else to go with that. Again, the NFL is great
at this. The NFL is great at when things like
this come up, suddenly it just slowly falls out of
the public consciousness. NFL's great at it. Rossini's quote, I
stand by any and all reporting I've ever done in
my career, unquote. Yeah, I mean, on a lot of it,
(35:39):
for me, going back to its origin, it seemed more
the personal relationships between them, their spouses, et cetera, salacious
details and such. But if it influenced the voting or
transactional things, then it's a much larger deal. Either way,
I guess we clap our hands and move forward Vegas
(36:00):
blackjack dealer style.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Exit out about a fresca.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
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could be the new college football scandal taking over. At
least Bill Belichick had one week to celebrate it.
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Now let's get this party started.
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So tonight is a big night for... Like, lots of
legal stuff. Like, we got legal stuff with North Carolina.
We got legal stuff at LSU. We have what's next
for whatever Pablo Torre is going to find out. We
got lots of legal stuff. Like, put your whatever law
hat you have on tonight that just says law on it.
(00:48):
Good thing I've been watching Waterston and Harry Hamlin and
all those guys for years.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm ready to go. A little Corbin Bernson thrown in
there as well. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But....
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This out of college football tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Tonight was the official opening of week one of college football.
We had week zero last week and now the official
opening of week one, which next year will be week one. Anyway,
the marquee game of the night, because we saw it
come down. UMass went into tonight's game against Rutgers, and
people are on social media right now going, why is
(01:25):
Rutgers trending?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah. And just so everybody knows, it's Rutgers. It's not Rutgers.
It's Rutgers. That's how you say it. Well, it's the
State College of New Jersey. It's Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's how you say it. It's always been said, Rutgers.
You have to say R's when you have to, but
you don't say all the R's, right? Just like Tony Soprano.
It's Rutgers. It's Rutgers. That's how you say it. It's
not Rutgers. It's Rutger Hauer, the actor, but it's Rutgers.
How do you think Gandolfini would have handled this one?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, boy. He'd have been in the locker room at
the end of the game. As a guy who used
to do a bunch of promos and other stuff for
the school.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, oh, boy. Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
UMass comes into this game off an 0-12 season last year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
2-10 the year before. 2-8 before that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
3-9. 1-11.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
1-11. 0-4, 1-11, last four-win season all the way back
to 2018.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Four wins in the last three years, and it's a
money game, right?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah. Okay, hey, Rutgers is, you know, hey, we're good.
Greg Sciano's like, yeah, we're good, man.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
We're good. We're opening up against UMass.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
0-12 last year, Rutgers was a 29-and-a-half-point favorite.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
29-and-a-half points.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
There's a big point to make coming out of this
game because this is what happened tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Watson taking a shot.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Griffin in the end zone. Oh, yeah, to the football. Touchdown, UMass,
31 yards.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Kimmins through the hole.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And that's going to do it. It opened wide. A
touchdown for Curtis Kimmins, the fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And UMass is going to head back to its home
state with one of its largest.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Wins in school history. It's over, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Big Ted Network on the call.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
UMass beats Rutgers tonight 37-21. With the points, you win
that game 67-21. So you walk away comfortably with a win.
You paid them to score... You pay them $ 42, 000 a
point to run it up on you. That's pretty good.
That's pretty good. $ 1. 55 million, the purse, reportedly, for UMass
(03:36):
on this one. Now, this is a very big lesson, right?
This is a learning time right now. Like, there's sometimes
on the show, we break down opinions, we entertain, make
you laugh, make you think. This is a learning exercise
right now, okay? This is a learning exercise.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
This is why.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You don't bet college football week one. This is why
you do not. If you want to bet, there's other
games out there for your money that you actually know
stuff about, that we've seen people play, that we know.
And okay, I can go out there. I know what's
going to happen tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
MLB.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This is why you don't bet college football week one.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, go back to last week, right? The USC game.
38 and a half was the spread.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Did you think those guys were going to play a
full game in the 185-degree sweltering heat?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They dominated for a half. They sat down. They win
by far less than the spread.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
If you bet week one a collar, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Really?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
What's going on? You're trying to find your advantage.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Right, but there's no advantage. You're saying, I'm going to
bet something. What do you know about this?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Not much. Oh, okay. Like, what do you mean not much? Like,
I don't know anything. What do you know about the teams? Nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, why don't you know anything? Well, they haven't played
anybody yet. Well, you mean they haven't played anybody good? No,
they haven't played anybody. It's just been scrimmages.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Um.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And you're okay betting this?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Why?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Because it's football. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
There's other, I mean, look, there's other places you can go.
It's just about being smart, right? It's being a smart bettor.
It's being a smart, you know, investor in your gambling future.
Why would you bet a sport? College football is the
only sport where you have zero bets. evidence of a
team coming into week one that you can say, yes,
(05:27):
they're good, no, they're no good. Even the NFL, where
teams aren't playing anybody, you have an idea. The players
are known quantities. When they sign in free agency, you
know how they are coming up and how they've done
in the spring, how they've done in the summer, how
they've done in the joint practice. You have a better
idea of that. In In baseball, in the exhibition season,
(05:47):
you know what pitchers look good, what pitchers are strong.
You have some information going on in all the other,
even college basketball. You have more because you see teams, hey,
we're playing a couple of preseason games here.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We're doing X, Y, and Z. College football is zero.
It's we're starting. We're starting. What do you know?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I know absolutely nothing because I've not seen any of
these teams play. Why are you betting week one of
college football?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I think there's going to be.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Better examples where we look at the spread, certainly not
four plus touchdowns, right? That's where you start getting into foolishness,
because there's a million ways that that can go wrong
and sideways on you, as the example of USC a
week ago.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Same thing here.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You're putting 29 and a half points. I don't care
how bad UMass is.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's Rutgers. They're a 500 squad. at best.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So you're looking at trying to be judicious. What's the turnover?
What's the coaching staff?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
All of that. I mean, there's metrics. You can do it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
This is not a game deep down on the board
that you say, yep, that's the one. But there's no games.
Because week one generally is a week of Powers playing
lesser teams. You don't know about the weather, how much
guys are going to be able to play, how much
teams are going to ease off the break.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You have no idea.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Hey, I'm 1-0 on my picks this year, okay? I
had Belichick in the rain and the beer in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm 1-0. I took my plus 8.5 and I danced.
You got lucky. What do you mean I got lucky?
You got lucky. Hey, swarmed.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I saw the rain coming in Ireland, and I knew
that was going to happen. Well, I've been to Ireland
a couple times. I know it's going to rain at
some point. It's like Florida in the later part of
the summer. You did that, and that's even more dicey
and risky because you can't even say.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Who's got home field. I don't even know. What does
that mean?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I don't know how the team's traveled. I don't know
how these college teams are packing and moving on and
playing overseas. I don't know how the weather's going to be.
I don't know what game day experience is going to be,
which team is going to be able to– handle all
the outside noise going into the game like it's i
mean we know absolutely zero why would you bet on
(08:01):
something that you know absolutely zero about i mean going
all the way through this weekend like i would think
hey syracuse back steve angeli awesome yeah great i'm not
betting syracuse this weekend i mean come on man what
what I don't get where you think, oh, I have
the insight. I know where this is going to go.
Week one of college football is the biggest dice roll
you could possibly have. I can't listen to anybody that says,
(08:23):
I know week one. I know this game right here.
I know week one of college football.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You want me to cancel, Todd? I know.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I know week one of college football. 32 to 34
point favorite this week against New Hampshire. You're Syracuse Orange.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean, they could win. They could win 38-3. They
could win 35-21. They could win 28-14, right? They could
lose 35-20. You don't know. I mean, in life, just
think in life, okay?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
If you have money that, here's $ 50, let's just say,
whatever you bet.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, $ 50.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And I could have you bet that When these two
kids or these two people have a race, okay?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Who are you going to bet to win? I thought
you were going to have a fight. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
These two kids on the playground. Hey, he looks hungry.
That guy stole his shovel. No, these two, whoever, these two,
they're going to have a race. Okay, well, once I know...
This kid's on the track team for a long time.
I know what his times were the last couple of years.
I know what's going on here. I know he's won
three races already this year. He's done pretty well. I
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know the other kids got a little bit of an injury.
I don't know if he's going to be able to
make it. He's coming back from a hamstring. I know
I have enough information to bet on the first kid
because I've seen him and I know.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Okay? All right.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I know stuff and I can bet. Are you taking
$ 50 and, okay, you're going to bet on these two
people having a race? What do you know about them? Well,
one kid's really tall, so he looks faster. The other
one's smaller, shorter. Well, what do you know about him?
What's he done this year?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I don't know. Neither of them have had a race. Okay. Well,
what did they do last year?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Year?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, he didn't really race last year. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So what are you going to do? Well, I kind
of like that one guy, so I'm going to bet
on him. Like, you're not doing that. Lots of folks
go to the racetrack and say, hey, I like the
look of that horse, or he's got the pink suits.
That's people who want to go out and go, whatever
the money I'm spending today, I'm losing. I'm realizing I'm
spending this money to have a good time. But it's
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the same thing here. It's an entertainment vehicle.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, no, that's different.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
If you're investing, you're not saying, all right, let me
go to Rutgers and UMass as my lock of the week.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Oh, really?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Oh, okay. Go on social media and take a look
at someone who had, I think, Rutgers as their lock
of the year.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I think I know who that is. But just
get like, if you go to the racetrack, right? I've
been to the track. I know, okay, am I going
to win money?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, I'm there. There's Dollar Beer, Dollar Hot Dogs. I
like the name of this horse. I like that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
See, I can teach you if you want to go
to the harness. We can teach you a system, and
you'll win pretty consistently. If that was the case, you
wouldn't be here next to me if you were winning
in harness racing consistently. I'm not saying I'm getting rich.
You'd have the jaunty hat and the real stubby cigar.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I do.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That would be you. I don't have the cigar. You'd
have to have that, though. That's a good look. That's
a good look. I know I'm going there and I'm
spending money to have fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Right? This is where I'm spending money on college football
because I think I'm going to win and I want
to win.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No, it's the same thing. No, it's not. It's an
entertainment vehicle and a stressor for three hours.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That is so different. How is it any different? It's
a wager.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's a parimutuel wagering versus whatever your book is. You're
wagering because you want to win.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Of course. In both cases, you want to win. Yeah,
but if you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Lose when you're betting the racetracks, like, okay, well, I'm
here having fun.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I'm watching them. What do I really know about the
horse races?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
But if you're betting Rutgers and UMass, in theory, you've
actually looked into both teams in terms of their roster
turnover in the All-22, game plans, et cetera, versus, like,
you just got the... The sheet handed to you at
the rail and you go, ah, seven. What all 22
have you seen? There's no games. No, but you're extrapolating
off of what these guys have done else in their past.
(12:14):
If they've transferred in, whatever, it's the same thing. You
have like betting week one of the NFL. Are you
going to tell people not to do that too?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No, that's where you have a lot of, you have
an entire, you have the entire preseason. You have an
off season. You've seen the guys play. You saw them
work together for a series in the preseason. How many,
how many games practices, how many times you see joint
practices games? Do you see teams on the field over
the course of the preseason?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
A lot.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Probably six times. You see how players play. You see
when the first team plays the first team of another team.
When you go for the joint practices that go three,
four days, you at least have some sort of working knowledge.
You have games. You have times you have seen them
on the field against another team that has a different
color uniform. You do not have that in college football. Sure,
they put the different pennies on and they get after it.
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All right, white team over here, red team over here.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
All right, let's go. Let's go get them. Let's go
get them, guys. Let's go. Let's go. Okay, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Why?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Why?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
There's better places you could go, or at least you
could think. There's a lot of better places. If I
want to do that, I'd go to a slot machine.
Betting college football is like going to a slot machine, right?
There's a difference between going to a slot machine and
going to play at a poker table, where you can
use strategy. You have some kind of knowledge to go.
Betting week one of college football is– You also don't
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know the players that are at the table with you
if you go play poker. But you have a little
bit of knowledge of the game and their strategy, way
to impact. Yeah, those other six people. If that guy's
hiding behind his sunglasses, you've got no idea.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, that's why they call it gambling. But at least
you have some kind of knowledge. You have zero knowledge
of week one of college football. Here you get three
hours of entertainment. Yeah, but you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
How entertained are you if you bet Rutgers tonight? You'll
be smarter about your research tomorrow. I am never betting
Greg Sciano again.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That is never happening.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That might be the lesson you learned. It's all a
learning experience.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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after we get off the air. So a big night
in college football. We've already seen what happens when you
(15:52):
bet Rutgers. We have big stuff involving North Carolina and
Bill Belichick coming up in a half hour. But this
big news item that came through, this news is about
45 minutes old. A Louisiana judge has cleared the NFL
players who wanted to return to college after getting cut
(16:18):
this summer. Daquan Wright was at the head of this.
Zavian Harris as well. LSU and Lane Kiffin said, yes,
we're recruiting these guys. We'll come back and play. Everybody
else is going to. Why wouldn't we do it? Not
many other people in college football really like this. The
conferences don't. SEC clearly doesn't. They talked earlier in the
(16:38):
day about potentially bringing lawsuits or bringing some sort of
action against LSU if they play these players who went
to the NFL, got cut, and are coming back. These
guys that still have eligibility left. So now this judge
has granted an injunction for these pro players seeking their
return to LSU. Now there's two big things coming out
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of this. The first one, well, actually the first one
is that are we surprised that Lane Kiffin's at the
center of this? Like the bad boy of college football,
like he's the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Like, of course, he's the guy. He is the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He's looking under every rock for a competitive advantage. Or
is he looking for a grandstand to make headlines? Because
he's the only one making headlines.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Maybe. He's the only guy. Nobody else is taking these
kids back. Nobody else. But, oh, we'll take them back. Why? Why? Because.
I could do it. We're LSU, right? Lane Kiffin's the
only one.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
The thing he has done with all of this grandstanding,
players coming back to LSU, and then the crazy story
last night that, hey, when he was at Alabama, Nick
Saban had to call around to bars and say, make
sure he's not He doesn't hit on co-eds. Yeah, that
was a whole other thing. That'll be a TV miniseries
soon enough. What Lane Kiffin has done is he has
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put a clock on his time at LSU. With the
outside-the-box involvement in a story like this that nobody else
in college football wants, the embarrassment, the attention that LSU
does not want, they want to win. And now, obviously,
the stories that came out from the book that we
found out yesterday about what he did at Alabama. Now
we know why he didn't get the job at Alabama.
(18:14):
He has put a clock on his time at LSU.
He is a very controversial subject. He is someone who
has always courted controversy. He is always, yeah, where's Conner?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm here. Usually people walk around, no, don't walk down
that alley. Why not?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
There's controversy in that alley. Most people would walk right by.
They would take a peek down and go, is there
controversy down there?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'm not going. Lane Kiffin would just say, he would
run down the alley. He runs to the light. And
he would yell, where is the controversy? Controversy, come get me.
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And if there was no, he would keep running back
and forth until controversy came out. Until controversy alley came
out to get him. I think he's describing how influencers
try to make their money on the interwebs right now.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Whatever time he had to win at LSU.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Over the past few months, he has cut that in
half because there's not going to be a lot of
patience if he doesn't win. There's not going to be
a lot of patience for the attitude he has had
towards college football outside of this if he does not win.
Why you would do that to yourself, I don't know,
but Lane Kiffin's always been his worst enemy, many times
over the course of his career. So I don't see
how this was something that you really want to stand
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on this by let's get these two kids coming back
or whatever kids want to come back from the NFL
to come back.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You've moved on. You've got your recruits. You have your team.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
If you're recruiting smartly, you have players come back. I
get that you have guys, well, these guys were good
in college, really were coming back. But now if you
don't win with them, suddenly the– ability that LSU will
have to be patient with you is getting cut. Now it's,
if you're giving them controversial headlines and you're not winning,
forget it, man. They're going to say, we're going to
buy you out. We spent a lot of money to
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get you, but we can put that money down. We
spent a lot of money to get Brian Kelly. We
bought that guy out really fast. We spent a lot
of money to get you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Guess what? We'll buy you out really fast. They have
that money. LSU has that turnover money.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You notice last week in his broadcast debut for the season,
Brian Kelly went out of his way to sideswipe Lane Kiffin.
He used some, well, let's just call it unsavory terms
in doing so. It's like, wow, you got Brian Kelly
calling you those names. That means you're that low? I mean,
come on, because Brian Kelly, there's plenty. So the SEC
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sued LSU in the District Court in Alabama on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
This is a great term. Alleging the university is violating
the league's First Amendment right of expressive association by ignoring
their rules that prohibit signing and playing former NFL players. So, yeah,
you've now put the university on notice. I on some levels,
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you know, there's the part of me that's like, all right,
if this forces everybody to finally get together at a
big boy table and come together and it did right.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
This is the most unifying thing.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That has happened in college athletics in a long time
other than. hey, let's go count the pile of money
we made by expanding the playoffs. That's the only thing
that everybody's agreed on. Everything else has been territorial and
building their fiefdoms. This one, you actually have a united
force with the exception of one man. The other part
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of it, with knowing that you cut your time in half, right?
But again, that's Lane Kiffin. He does this.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Is this actually going to happen?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Are we actually going to see these guys coming back
to college football to play? Luckily, we're here because I
can tell you the future. You can see the future.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Nobody wants this. There is no other school. William Jordan
wanted this. The honorable William Jordan. Okay. E-N, not A-N.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, now we know, hey, what have we seen in
the world in the last few years, whatever it is. Hey,
I don't like the ruling I get in court. I'm
going to go to another court until a judge tells me.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What I want to hear. Well, that's always been the case.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
If you have enough resources behind you, you can keep
the appeal process going forever. This is why college football,
if you had a commissioner, if you had somebody, things
would be different.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But no, we don't have it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But as I mean, at least here, we all got
to this.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Well, most people got to the same table.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But the thing is, is that nobody wants this. The
SEC doesn't want it. How long until the SEC says,
you keep these kids, we're not playing you. We're not
going to play you Saturday. How long until the SEC
says that?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
An hour?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Is it going to be by the time we get
off the air tonight? Is it going to be 9
o'clock tomorrow morning? Is it going to be midday on Friday?
Is it going to be Friday afternoon where they find
out LSU, we're not going to allow them to play
if they let these kids back? For some reason, for
whatever reason, college football really does not want this. And
I don't know why this is something that the entire
sport wants to die on the mountain of. Of all
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the things I could say, what do they want to
die on the mountain of?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
NIL? Yes, I get it. Transfer? Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The handful of players that want to come back to
college football after getting cut by teams. This is what
suddenly everybody is united and against so bad?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Really? This is where you are? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You got as many as 40, right? It was 16
in the initial lawsuit. But where it's always gotten a
little ham-handed in all of this... go figure college sports
is the fact that once you open the door and
guys were starting to cash checks, I mean, I was
reading a big thought piece on Caleb Williams, right? Is
10 plus million dollars that he made while at, while
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in college at USC that is like, well, I don't
need to do this.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I want to do this.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I want to be great talking about his time with
the bears showing up in Chicago, how he's embraced the city,
all these other things.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And it's just that.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Reminder of, all right, we bastardized the whole college football thing.
It's not college football anymore. For a select few, for
UMass guys, for my beloved Northwestern. No, I mean, even there,
you've got that fine line between guys that are excelling
and working on the academic side versus guys that are
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there to play football and go on down the line.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'm not saying that it's 100%. Clearly, it's a wide.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
wide berth going going back many years but as soon
as you started being able uh legally by rules to
collect massive paydays to the tune of 10 million dollars
or what we're hearing what arch manning's gonna make that
plus this year right and guys uh bouncing around we
watched it with uh carson beck going to miami what
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was it six million dollars or something like that when
he when he went down there to play that you've
already become pros. So if there's a, hey, come on
back in, the water's fine, you got to figure out
how to bone up on those eligibility rules because we're
long past the once you get paid element to any
of it. I mean, really, what are the odds that tomorrow...
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Dabo Sweeney says, we're not playing Saturday. I mean, that's
the marquee game of the day.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Saturday, right?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, a guy that doesn't want to do any of
the New World College football anyway, right?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, yeah, he's still struggling with, you know, this NIL
stuff that's come up. You know, I don't really like that.
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I don't like the transfer portal. So he's dealing with
stuff that is, like, way old, like three years old.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He's trying to catch up. Yeah, he is a friendster
in a world of Instagram. Oh.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Do you want.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
To explain to people what Friendster might have been?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
No, you get it or you don't.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh, Friendster, I get it. Or he's a MySpace in
a world of Instagram.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Hi, Tom. Really, what are the odds?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
What are the odds that you see Clemson say tomorrow,
if he's going to play these guys, we're not playing him?
If he's going to play, we're not, or if they
agree to play, but we're not going to play. Like,
this is not going to just go away where the
SEC and other schools are going to throw up their
hands and go, ah, what can you do?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
He tried it. He wants it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, they have talked about banning together and not playing teams.
that sign these players. We're talking about sanctions and everything else. Really,
that's the next step, and that could be tomorrow. Again,
I'm not going to be surprised if we wake up
tomorrow morning and headline, Sweeney, we won't play if NFLers play.
Do you think they'll be knocking on a judge's door
at midnight tomorrow night as we're finishing our Friday show?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We found a judge to sign this form. Well, that's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You know, I got to say, from watching all the
TV I've seen, you can find a judge anytime you
want to.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Now, generally, judges are always at home. In a robe.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's at night, in a robe, in their study. And
the cops come to see them. And, you know, the
judge tells his wife or she tells her husband, it's okay,
they're here. And they sit down and they go, you
better be right about this. We got a running clock, Judge.
We got a running clock. It's always the judge's career
is at stake.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh, absolutely. My career is at stake. No, we got
the story. We got it.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
If this goes bad, I'll have your ass. So I
know the judges work hard. They generally work until about
5 or 6 o'clock. And any time they're at home,
they're in a robe enjoying the night. And knocking on
a judge's door is, like, the worst thing you could
ever want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like, there's other things, like... Oh, it's the sanctity of
the home. I see it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I see in the movies where these cops would rather
get into shootouts with the bad guys than I don't
want to go to a judge's home.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I don't want to disturb them at home. Like, you
disturb a judge at home, it's like.
Why would I poke the bear?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Or you get into all of that firefight, and then
you say, well, we'll get the warrant tomorrow. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
No, no, no. That's the thing, man. It's procedural.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But I'm sure right now somewhere in Louisiana there's judges
who are up going, okay, put some coffee on.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
We're going to have some company. People are going to
come over.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Put on our show. Let's watch the second half. Of
Illinois UAB. Archie, Debo Swinney is here. It's Dabo Swinney. Yeah,
Debo is here to see you. Wait, Kalen DeBoer is here? No,
he didn't say Kalen. He said Debo. Debo Swinney.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I said Dabo.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Debo Samuel, he plays in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
He's not trying to come back to college, is he? No, no, no.
We got Debo. No, we got Debo.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh, wait, the guy from Friday is here? No, no,
that's a different guy. I'm going to let him in.
I'm going to let him into the side. Yeah, come
around the side. Come around the side.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Come around the side. And it's always a lush robe, too. Oh, always.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's not like some, hey, like, robe I just bought
at Bed Bath & Beyond before they closed down. Like,
it's a real, hey, this is a really, it's a
silky robe or, yeah, it's like, yeah. If you're going
to live your life wearing a robe by the day,
if you're in one at night, I mean, that's luxury time.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
100%.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
There's not a lot to the robes in a courtroom.
Just wait. I mean, if I wake up tomorrow. I mean,
it's not quite Ric Flair.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
No. But it's somewhere in between. Dabo says we won't play.
I am not going to be surprised. Dabo.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Dabo.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Did you say Dabo's coming? I want to take college
football back to the 1980s. where players got paid illegally,
just like we used to do. And we liked it.
And guys couldn't transfer. They'd have to sit out four
years in between transfer.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And they may never see the field again.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Exit out about a fresca. Exit swollen dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, a big story in the NFL. We spent
the entire summer and a lot of the spring breaking down,
asking what's next. It looks like it's over. What is it?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's straight ahead. Jason and Mike, Fox.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at 10 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m.
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show with my best friend,
Mike Harmon.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You selfish bastard. Stream us live wherever.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
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Speaker 2 (29:42):
And rip that knob off. So a big day legally.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I feel like, you know, if you need to have
a working knowledge of, well, law and order, LA law,
lots of stuff. Because smack dab of all this college
football stuff, the LSU ruling.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That came in, the.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
North Carolina story we're going to get to coming up
in a few minutes, which is just absolutely crazy. The
final update, I would say, in the Mike Vrabel Diana
Rossini saga dropped earlier today, where we've been waiting for
a while for The Athletic to come out with the
results of their investigation into her coverage of Mike Vrabel.
(30:21):
Did it cross the line? Their suspected affair? It's been
a big deal all summer long. And The Athletic put
their findings out today. Basically said that, yeah, well, some improprieties, but, nah,
nothing crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Wait, what? That about sums it up pretty nicely. We
didn't have access to her phone. We didn't talk to
her at all.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So what we found is some stuff that made us
uncomfortable in her reporting, right?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They went over her.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
interview that she had done they went over her articles
that she had written they went over her podcast hits
and they found that yeah some stuff that makes you
uncomfortable but nothing well over the top mike semel the
editorial director for standards and quality said they reviewed 903
stories 204 podcasts 77 videos Why did you even do it?
(31:18):
This is useless. I could have done this. I could
have said, you know what?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Hire me. Pay me a lot of money. I'll go
through all this. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'll go through all this stuff, and then I'll come
out with my findings. And they'd say, okay, great, here's $ 25, 000.
And I would have sat on my ass for three months,
said I did all this, but really I wouldn't have
to do anything, and then come out at the end
and say, yeah, I found stuff that was a little uncomfortable,
but yeah, nothing crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I saved my money, and all I did was go
to the beach.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Why are you going after consultants? I mean, editorial research
people like this.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
This was useless. Any of us could have done this.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You went through all of these different radio interviews and
TV interviews, to come out with something and have a
statement that we already knew. Yeah, stuff was uncomfortable. That's
why you're investigating. But we didn't have access to her phone.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Did interview her. Okay, well, did you ask? Did she
tell you no? Did you interview other people around it?
Did you interview the people that she said was with
them at the.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Resort that was going to, you know, corroborate her story? Like,
what kind of interview did you do?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You just went back and looked at the stuff that
was public knowledge?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Really?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Like, that passes for a great investigation? This was absolutely useless.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
This entire time.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
One of the lines in the findings was, well, much
of it was unrelated to Vrabel. It's like, yes, she
covers a league. So... I saw a couple of the
lines in the write-up talking about the maybe she didn't
go as harshly at his coaching and results as she
(32:55):
would have otherwise. But you can dismiss that, I think,
and you can disagree. But you go market to market.
insider to insider, reporter to reporter, man, there's certainly a
lot of soft shoe work to make sure you maintain access.
So how much was it there? I mean, the voting
(33:16):
on the league awards, I think there's a question that
needs to be raised, right? Like, that was kind of
seemingly out of line, but like anything, you make the
argument and defend your choice. But did you sway things?
Did it sway any of the movement and player movement
based on and how she reported things? Like, I didn't
(33:37):
get any sense that there was any deep dive into that,
that it was just more a cursory, we went through,
it was like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
What are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Now, here is Mike Vrabel from today being asked about
his reaction to the athletics report that.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Hey, we got stuff that was uncomfortable. You know, hey,
what's your reaction, Mike? No, I don't have any reaction.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
We're moved on and focused on Seattle and focused on
the Patriots and focused.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
On getting better this week. Fully behind you.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Try to just say that I've moved on and excited
about this new opportunity here as we start this season. Yeah,
he's walking around right now going, whew, that's the last
bullet I had to dodge was the athletics report because
everything else seems to have been taken care of. It's
we need more videos or we need the athletics report
to uncover things. And now he knows I have dodged
this bullet. I will be able to coach now. And yes,
(34:26):
this is going to follow me for the rest of
my career, but I can be the Patriots head coach.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I can move on and not have to worry about
getting fired.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Of all of this to say, and I'm just looking
at something– that we've seen now many times over the
course of my time covering and dealing with football. Not
the first and not nearly the last time a story
that was potentially incredibly embarrassing to the NFL peters out
(34:54):
and nothing is found. How many times does a story
get out there, wow, this is going to be really
embarrassing to the NFL, and at the end it just
gets choked off? where there's no more oxygen, the story
doesn't go anywhere, and it just dies. That happens virtually
every single time. Sometimes it takes a little bit longer
than others, but most of the time, this is really
(35:16):
bad for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
And what happens?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh boy, a few months later, yeah, well, there's nowhere
else to go with that. Again, the NFL is great
at this. The NFL is great at when things like
this come up, suddenly it just slowly falls out of
the public consciousness. NFL's great at it. Rossini's quote, I
stand by any and all reporting I've ever done in
my career, unquote. Yeah, I mean, on a lot of it,
(35:39):
for me, going back to its origin, it seemed more
the personal relationships between them, their spouses, et cetera, salacious
details and such. But if it influenced the voting or
transactional things, then it's a much larger deal. Either way,
I guess we clap our hands and move forward Vegas
(36:00):
blackjack dealer style.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Exit out about a fresca.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Exit Swollen Dome, the Jason Smith Show with my best friend,
Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we get back into what
could be the new college football scandal taking over. At
least Bill Belichick had one week to celebrate it.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
One week. That's next, Fox.
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