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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Friday, the Jason Smith Show with
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(00:50):
we're here, we made it. We are forty eight hours
away from Super Bowl Licks. We have a big show tonight.
We got the prop Betsley like we have our picks.
We have mvy picks if you don't want to pick
somebody that's not named Barkley or Mahomes. But before that,
I gotta say this, Mike, because it's a Friday. It's happy.
I'm happy the inner ten to eighteen year old in

(01:12):
me is so unbelievably excited about Saint John's Yukon because,
I mean game on Big Fox right now, both teams
are top twenty five. I mean Saint John's was my
team growing up in statn That's where Saint John's campus was,
Staten Island, and I had to change when I went
to Syracuse. Suddenly I was like, Okay, you're the bad
guys all right now, Sorry guys, but like my whole

(01:32):
life growing up like Saint John's, like that was the
team that was our team, and here they are, and
Patino has done an incredible job with them. In just
one year. They've gone from hey, I don't know if
Patino really, you know, still has it gets what's going on,
and instead it's just watching Saint John's pull a big
lead now here on Yukon a big fast break layup.

(01:53):
They're up by six with four minutes to go in
the second half. If they win this game, they'll probably
wind up being a top ten team. All of a sudden,
you'll be seeing and references to Walter Berry and Chris
Mullen and Mark Jackson and oh my goodness, I'm so excited.
I mean, the ten to eighteen year old in me
is so excited at Saint John's.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I just think of old radio listening way back in
the day, and it would be Farrell on the bench sholling,
who the hell wants to walk Saint John's. My brothers
and I. Every once in a while we'll be sitting
together and one of us will just scream it as
matter a Genoperland or Jesse Ventura reference. But yeah, like

(02:31):
this is great theater, right because, like you said, with Patino,
all the questions and certainly you know, the off court
and whatever else, but the man can coach, and it's
good to see perhaps some of those thought pieces get
reminded of what his legacy and history in this game is.

(02:53):
And let's face it, you got the greatest heel in
all of sports on the other sideline, part of the
sideline right now. It's not the other sideline because he's
just down the road there. But the idea just being that,
you know, for Hurley and his history onics that maybe
maybe we get some more chaos here in the final
four minutes. So yeah, great theater.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'll tell you you want, you want a great Saint John's.
You want to want. This is my this might be
my favorite story about a member of my family. And
I've been for years.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
You're ready for this, so you're not gonna get sued
stash for whatever they may have done is done.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, no, no, not at all, not at all. So
this is it's nineteen. What year was this eighty six?
Eighty five? Eighty five? Right? Eighty five? Okay, yeah, eighty five,
the big eighty five Georgetown Villanova year?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Where was the biggest upset in college basketball history? So
it's the Big East Tournament and it's when the Big
East had three teams in the final four that year.
They had Villanova, Saint John's and Georgetown, right, so they
were all in and uh, it's the Big East Championship
and you know, the biggest tournament championship. And this is

(03:59):
back you know eighty five. Not everybody has cable, right,
I mean, so it's a big deal. Like I'm fourteen
years old, I really want to see this game. And
my uncle, who this is before he became a fireman,
was a bartender. He's a bartending worked for the gas company.
He was like, come down to the bar, but you know,
come down to the bar and watch you here. And
I'm like, I'm fourteen years old. He goes, come down,
have Pop bring it down. My grandfather who would watch

(04:20):
basketball with he never watched basketball. When I watched Saint John's,
he watched with me, and so he'sa have Pop bring
it down. I'm like, Pop, you bring me down to
the bars so I can watch Saint John's and he goes, yeah, okay,
we'll go. So it's one of those nights where you remember,
I mean, we had nights like this in bars until
like the mid two thousands, I want to say, when
no one had NFL network and people still would go

(04:40):
out to watch the big Thursday night games. So we
go down to the bar and luckily my uncle, who's
a bart and everybody liked him, he saved two seats
for us, you know, right near the bar. The entire
place is packed and there's it's standing room only, and
everybody is just watching the game.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's a really tight game, and this is super This
is Pearl Washington at Sarah, and this is Walter Berry
and Chris Mallin and Saint John's and I remember Ron
Rowan of Saint John's hits a shot to give them
the one point lead with like ten seconds left in
the game, right, and so all of a sudden, it's
a mad dash down court and Pearl Washington like triples

(05:15):
by like three guys, just spinning, um going, oh my god,
cause he was like men against boys in college. Man,
Pearl Washington was unreal. He just goes by three guys.
He goes into the lane and goes up and Walter
Berry just swats him. With like one second left, the
ball bounces and bounces up in the air. The clock
hits zero. Everybody starts screaming. Everybody's clapping and high fiving.

(05:38):
And my grandfather next to me, he stands up and
he's clapping as hard as anybody. I'm like, ah, this
is really cool, right everybody. The people are high fiving.
People where my Saint John's sweatshirt, my Saint John's ad.
We're all high five and you know, it starts to
you know, dull down a little bit with everybody clapping.
My grandfather turns me and goes, who won?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Ah, well.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
That was that.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
You get caught up in the excitement. Everybody's fired up,
so sure, yeah, you get into it, but think about that.
That just an old old way of doing things right.
My uncle used to take us to the VFW hall
that he belonged to. Same idea, right, It's it's just
a bar. It's not like you could even make the
argument that it was a quasi restaurant. Like they had

(06:24):
some bags of chips and they had a couple of
pinball machines. So people always gave us dimes to keep
us occupied while they played cards, whatever other gambling was on,
and of course watching whatever games. I'm like, he can't
do that in twenty twenty five, they would throw you
out immediately and they'd shut these places down. But I
think those are some of the best times ever, Like

(06:46):
you're just watching you know, these cutthroat card games and
arguments and getting to hang with adults in this in
this kind of space. So for you to have that
moment and those kind of things always the best. But
to punctuate it with, hey, I'm excited, I don't know
why it's really about it, because I mean, it just

(07:07):
sums everything up. I mean, he wasn't, you know, terribly inebriated.
Was he was just.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
No, no, no, he just he just I don't know
that he could like at that point, my grandfather's probably
in his early seventies.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Why what I mean maybe because it was a you know,
it's a real tough play when when you're thinking about
what TV was like in the eighties, it's not like
what we see now.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
And you also don't have a big big picture either.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
No, no, I mean in nineteen eighty it was one
step away from you know, drawing stick figures and then
like making it look fast.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I mean there's no lower third, right, no score bug.
Every once in a while you flashed it. And if
it's loud in a bar and maybe they're playing music
off a jukebox, you're not hearing the announcers tell you
the score. No.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
And but the one thing I would say is that, well,
don't you uh you think everybody's in here rooting for Syracuse?
Like why do you think you think he was just
clapping because the game is over? Hey, that was a
great that was a great game. Game is a ladies
a gentleman? The band you got? You gotta think that
Saint John's won, don't you. I mean, it's not something
I mean, it's crazy, but come on, Pop, you gotta

(08:08):
you gotta get that, don't you but no, apparently it didn't.
But hey, that's one thing is that, like you know,
everybody in the family, you know that he raised, he
kind of raised me is his as his sixth kid,
and like everybody kind of brought a new sport to him.
Like he you know, he was a big baseball fan
his whole life, and then all my uncles really got
into football when they were younger. His kids, he got

(08:29):
into football there and and and you know, he started
watching basketball with me when I got into college basketball.
And he would never watch.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
The Knicks with me.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
He's like, the Knicks is sad? Why am I watching them?
But he would watch Saint John's with me when they
were on all the time. So and now he would
sit and do that with me. And I always always
thought that was a really cool thing, like even though
he didn't know as much about it, he would just
sit with me and watch the games, you know, And
I thought that was pretty cool. But I mean, who
won it was? If it was adult meat, I would

(08:56):
have said, it's tied, and it's going to double secret
over and they're gonna put both guys at the in
the middle, and Vince Vaughan is gonna grab the ball
and throw it at Ben Stiller, like I would have
made up something incredibly crazy. We got mad at me,
but you know, I was four teears. I was like
Bop Saint John's one, Pop Bop brother this back where
they were the Red Men Pop the Red Men, One
Red Men, one Bop Bop Pop Sat John's one. But

(09:18):
I just think back.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
But it's cool that we have those moments and everybody
that's got him, I mean, share them. We love reading
the evangelization of it all at Swollen Dome at how
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to grow and impress the pollsters. That's what we're all about.
But it's the idea of those seminal moments. If you remember,
like those early sports foundational things. Right for me, I

(09:42):
really jacked up my leg playing football one year, so
I probably sat on the couch with my dad and
my uncle and my brothers more watching football that year.
And ever that was the year the ahead of the
Super Bowl for the Bears all those many many years ago,
the loss of the forty nine ers, but like it
was a magical run. So like although those moments that
you had because everybody had to stop down because I

(10:03):
couldn't walk that checked up my knees so bad. Yeah,
so I was like, all right, what are you doing
on Sunday? I don't know. He's sitting over in that
corner again. So but like the same thing, like with
your you know, your family, you know, you think of
those things and it's like, yeah, those are those are
seminal moments. Either that or chasing people around a parking
lot at Kamisky Park because they were trying to wash

(10:25):
your windows and you didn't want them to. But that's
a whole other part of the family history we don't
need to get into here.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know, it's funny because I was thinking about my
grandfather Latte because look, one of the big stories that
we're getting ready to see on Sunday is probably probably
the big precursor the Super Bowl is Hubie Brown is
going to broadcast his final NBA game. Hubie Brown, who
has been the soundtrack to Our Lives Yeah for ESPN
other entities, at ninety one years old, is going to

(10:51):
broadcast his final game. And it's been an unbelievable ride
for him. He took some time off this year. He
had a couple of deaths and his immediate family, and
I think he's just kind of done doing it. But
being ninety he look he was up till last a
couple of years. He's doing games, and he's and he
sounds sharp, and look he keeps going out there. And

(11:12):
at ninety one, being able to do this and being
able to retire now say hey, I'm going to do
one more game and I'm going to retire. I mean
eighteen NBA Finals. Uh. He's been able to broadcast over
the course of his thirty five years on national TV
and radio. I mean, this is a life that I
aspire to to kind of to kind of have as
I get older. Now, I mean it's I still a

(11:33):
few you know, knock Wood a few years away from that.
But to be ninety one and to be still be
that with it, to have the freedom to not feel limited,
you know, whether I want to work and call a
bleep in NBA game or or I want to just
you know, enjoy life and hang out and go to
trivia on Wednesday nights or whatever I want to do.
Like that's winning, Like you know, you know, I've obviously,

(11:56):
you know, everybody has different lives and there's ups and downs.
You have highlights. You have tragedies, you know, But for
Hube Brown at ninety one to be still doing this
game and he's gonna sound like boy, he's he could
continue to do this for a long time. Like, I
think that's winning. And I think that that's the that's
the golden years, the post retirement years that I think
is is is what you can hopefully aspire to to

(12:18):
have something like that. Like really, you know, you want
your health, you want your mental acuity, you want all
of these, but basically you want the freedom to not
feel limited to still live your life. And I think
you know that that's Hugbe Brown winning in such a
huge way.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, that's you. You have a choice, right, It's not
your being forced out because you know on air mistakes
or gaps or you can't travel or any of those things.
That it's it's a choice to say, you know what
I've done my my years, it's been a rough go
the you know, like you said, with with family stuff

(12:50):
the last few months and and and trying to do
that that you you still have the ability to make
a choice. I mean we all should should aspire to
those things, right. I've got a couple of friends who've
who've hit retirement maybe a little earlier, and they're having
their regrets already gone. Boy, I was still having fun,
but the math worked out, so I said, I'm done. Yeah,
and it's like, well, I don't want it to become

(13:12):
come down to an equation. I you know, I'm and
hopefully you know, still some years left where folks are
are still moderately entertained by what you and I do here.
If you decide you hate me, then somebody decides they
still like the sound of my voice. All of those
things to say that, you know, you want to have
some say in the matter and still have your your

(13:33):
physical and mental about you. But for Huge Brown, I mean, god,
what's it's gonna be weird to turn on a game
and here's someone else with Mike Breen and not you
know have have that back and forth and have Hubee
Brown as part. And we've done this a lot, like
you know, the last decade or so. I mean, how
many guys get to really go out when they want to? Yeah,

(13:56):
I mean at ninety.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
One, yes, not at sixty or seventy or seventy five.
At ninety one, he's getting to go out and say, hey,
I'm gonna I got one more game. It's Philadelphia Milwaukee.
I mean hopefully Joelleenbid will play in Hube Brown's last game.
Uh you know, I mean that's I mean, that's I
mean that that's that's that's going out. That's going out
like in an unbelievably unbelievable way where I really it's amazing.

(14:19):
I mean you think about I think about, you know,
Marv Levy coaching as long as he did and how
long he coached, and and this is just to be
able to do something like this this long and still
be this good at it, I don't I don't know
the I think if you ask for anything more, you're
being greedy. Like think about think.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
About one of the mantras of the show, right, the
old the old joke, I don't feel so old so
long as Rogers, Brady Lebron all these guys are are
on the field. And that extends into the coaches and
the broadcasters that you and I have been listening to
uh forever. You know, the guys that pass away, I mean,
you know part party you goes with them, you know,

(14:57):
Harry Carey and in Chicago for me with and Uker
and Vin Scully and these guys that are part of
the soundtrack of what we do. Why you and I
get emotional as we do with musicians that we're big
fans of and all of you out there, it's that
same resonance that it's it's just an amazing you know,
part of the background of what you're doing and what

(15:20):
you get to experience. And for him to be able
to tap and man at ninety one, you know, it's
one of those guys. All right, I feel a little
older today.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's like just one of those there's another one of
our guys are tiring, which is why Pete Carroll coming back.
Why did we celebrated the hell out of that? Yeah, Pete,
you get back on that side. Pete Carroll's almost twenty
years younger than you.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Be proud.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Let me think about that.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yes, we talk about boy Pete Carroll, can he do
what he's gonna be seventy four, We talk about his energy,
everything else going on.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
He's almost twenty years but proud, but not to take
it down the obvious highway. But look at all the
people we hire back into Congress and to the Presidential
Oval Office. Man, it's like we do that all the
time and nobody bats an eye yet. A guy that
wants to coach when he's got a staff of administrators

(16:15):
and folks that can pretty much do ninety five percent
of his job. Right Paterno in his final years at
Penn State, or Bobby Bowden and guys like that, it's
like they still were the figurehead. They still you know,
the bucks stop with them. But are you telling me
they were still working any of anywhere close.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
To those hours. Hell no, we didn't care.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
It's like, good for them. They're institutions. Same thing here,
Huge Brown. He'll be missed and can't wait to watch
that telecast. I can't wait to see some of the
footage that they dredge up. Man, it's a long run
and chance that you can have fun with.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
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seconds away from beating Yukon, but coming up next, Yes,
it is Super Bowl weekend. How about a hot take

(17:37):
and an MVP pick? Yeah, let's go Wait wait, wait,
they did that yesterday. What do you mean the MVP?
I mean the Super Bowl MV Oh bones to pick
with that whole MVP comm No, not not that fixed
one where Yeah, Lamar Jackson's good enough to win all
probably not enough to win an MVP. No, no, super
Bowl MVP. We got that coming up next right here,

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We go off the air. Here quick update, it is over.
Yukon goes down to Saint John's sixty eight sixty two,
The Ritz TJ The Red Storm Rising once again in
the words of Tom Clancy. But I got two more,

(19:50):
just two observations before we get onto the super Bowl. Here, okay,
number one, number one. This is how happened for Saint John's.
I am no longer pissed that Cadari Richmond left Syric
went to Seaton Hall and now has circled back to
Saint John's. Become a superstar there. Like I'm not like
I was upset that Jim Bans. No, We're choosing Joe
Girard over everybody. Joja so Canari. Richmond said, Okay, I'm

(20:11):
leaving and now he's a super duperstar, and Saint John's
is gonna be like a one seat or a two
seed in the NCAATE tournament. The second thing is this
is that yes, we're you know where, we're in the
middle of February. You know, after the Super Bowl, the
we're gonna start seeing the calendar turn towards March. I
don't know is they're a better candidate for Coach of
the Year in college basketball right now than Rick Patino.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I mean, you have a.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Lot of big teams having big seasons. But look, yeah, hey,
yeah Ducas suppot when you get Cooper Flag. Yeah, John
Shire is doing a nice job. But you have great player,
Like you have some great teams there that are playing
great basketball. But all of a sudden, here's your outlier
and here's Saint John's. That Rick Patino basically had a
takeover from nothing. And it was a year ago he
was ripping his team saying we don't have good players

(20:55):
and all this stuff, and now here they are one
of the best defensive teams in the country. Saint John's
is to rific and here they are now they're gonna
be in the top ten this week. They've won four
in a row. Now, I think Rick Patino might be
your college basketball Coach of the Year.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I kind of dig the cut of your jib here,
and yeah, it goes back to expectations. I don't know,
kind of like that conversation we were having yesterday about MVPs. Yeah, right,
but it plays it well. The other is because I
threw this up on Twitter at swollen home, folks, feel
free to respond. You can't do and hate me. Ford
Smith is So we have an AP Offensive Player of

(21:30):
the Year, but we give the MVP and to a
quarterback every year. Explain that one to me, Batman. Yeah,
but in the interim, it's the same thing, right, It's
expectations and what do you do and how are you
able to build a squad. It's why Kevin O'Connell one
Coach of the Year over Dan Campbell yesterday, and why
you had so many votes for Sean Payton for what

(21:55):
Denver was able to do and et cetera. But for
Rick Patino, I mean, he's been read how many times?
How many times? Was it? This guy's done? He can't
Oh yeah, he's going out to past year.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Was his last job. I'm not leaving except to go
coach Saint John's.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, that'll do. Okay, Right, this is the last time
you're gonna see me. I'll be back behind a television
desk or whatever it was. Yeah, and now here here
you have a massive win. Part of super Bowl week.
It's a Friday night. Uh so, I mean fortunately part
of the Fox world, but you know, buried a little bit,
you know, one of those uh after hours. But that's

(22:34):
how you'll start your college basketball Saturday tomorrow. It's like, hey,
something you might have missed last night Beatino. So yeah,
he'll he'll garner all the headlines and all the love.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Uh The Jason smithsho with Mike Carbon live from the
tirec dot Com studios. All right now the super Bowl
licks and and a couple of before we give you,
before we give you our MVP selections not named Mahomes
or Barkley. This week has been I think you probably
this narrative going through. We spend a lot of time
on look, on television, on the radio, you watch your shows,

(23:06):
go through everything all week, and there hasn't been as
much super Bowl talk as other years. Right, Sometimes the
super Bowl dominates the two weeks between games. Other times
is like this week, well, I mean, yes, when Luka
Doncic gets traded for Anthony Davis, that's going to take
a lot of the oxygen out. But the whole thing
about this week is like, Wow, super Bowl isn't not

(23:27):
as much talk about? That's irrelevant. Right to talk about
the super Bowl well, makes no difference. Yes, I'm sure
the NFL would like it to be more of a
front burner conversation. I get it. But here's the thing.
Some years, the super Bowl gives you that conversation, and
there's two weeks worth of all kinds of hype and
interesting stories and one hundred and ten million people watch

(23:50):
the super Bowl. Then other years are like this where
there's not a lot of talk going up. The storylines
are kind of what we've seen already. Look that Chi's
have been there now plenty of times. We know them.
The Eagles now have been there a few times, we
know them. So the week and a half leading up
to the super Bowl is not great. And one hundred
and ten million people watch the super Bowl like it's

(24:10):
it's no bearing Sunday on how many people are gonna watch.
Everybody's gonna watch this. We're gonna get the same great
numbers because it's the evil Empire. Like the Chiefs are
a big deal. People have gone from boy, I love
watching Mahomes and the Chiefs. There's so much fun. Man,
I really want them to win. And now it's I
really want Mahomes the Chiefs to get killed. I hate

(24:31):
the rest are on their side. I hate all of this.
I want the Eagles to win. I'm wearing Saguon Barkley
throw back Kelly Green Eagles jerseys every party I go to, like,
the people are gonna watch. It's like the Yankees in
the World Series, the Cowboys in the Playoffs, in the
Super Bowl. Yeah, this is what it is. They're the
new evil Empire. Everybody's good. The world hates Kansas City,
the world hates the Chiefs. So now we're gonna tune

(24:53):
in to watch it, and the average fan is gonna
be rooting for the Eagles, wanting the Chiefs to lose.
But doesn't matter, big hype. One hundred and ten mi
people will watch, not a lot of hype. One hundred
and ten million people are gonna watch.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah. In the end, I mean, look what are normally
the storylines that start rumbling through the two weeks of
Super ahead of the Super Bowl, usually not very good ones. Right,
Some of them are about coaching hires. That's fine. We
had a couple of trade demands. We had Kelly Stafford's unhinged.
Whatever the hell that was good for us. Nice little

(25:23):
victory there. Hey McVeigh, hey less, need let me show
you we could go and beady. All right, challenge accepted,
So we'll watch for that. But normally we get this
guy got arrested. This is a problem. Here's the other things. Yeah,
we got a little bit of the the tired legacy

(25:44):
Brady Mahomes thing, because Brady's calling the game and we
can do that basically the next iteration of Jordan Lebron
right that everybody just loves to the low hanging fruit
to jump on. And then you move on to the
end of visual players. Jalen Hurts right, his second Super
Bowl respect Nick Sirianni winning in spite of himself is

(26:08):
kind of like the subtitle if he were to put
out a memoir. Right now, I somehow win. By Nick Sirianni,
You've got a great roster. We talk about the offensive line,
the obligatory. Jason Kelcey fun all of that to say, yeah,
you can have a little bit of a fun with it.
The matchup itself is really interesting from an x's and o's,

(26:31):
But how much can you break that down over two weeks?
You're just not so you're trying to find something else.
Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes having to address the fact
that the President's coming. We talked about that briefly, which
is really a hot button topic at the high school
because Maddy brought that up again to me today that
people are still yapping about that. But all of that

(26:53):
to say, it's everybody's still gonna watch. I mean, I
wish they wouldn't keep releasing all the commercials ahead of SOY,
but uh so they've kind of spoiled all those for me, Jason,
so I'd taken away some of my entertainment. But you know,
we we got that and we'll see what happens for
the halftime show. How many guest stars can we get? Yeah,

(27:13):
I will the lights stay on? Yeah that prop bet hey.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Speaking of prop bets, we got Todd Furman coming up
in about forty five minutes to break down all the
great prop bets for the super Bowl. But speaking of
prop bets, okay, because with all the talk this week
and and and the overwhelming favorites to an MVP of
the Super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs obviously, and
Saquon Barkley for the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, it's three guys, right, and Hurts It Hurts there too, Well,
Hurts is only three and a half to one, and
then it everybody else.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, everybody else is a long shot. So obviously one
of these guys is likely going to win the Super
Bowl MVP. But if you want to, if you want
a long shot, you want somebody else that you think, Hey,
who could who's a long shot. If I'm in a
pool or whatever I'm doing to win super Bowl MVP,
I'll give you somebody a plus five thousand or better

(28:08):
that I would say. If it's somebody else, this is
the guy I like to win super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Okay, Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I will go. He is plus ten thousand to win
super Bowl MVP. But I can see it happening for
Dallas Goddard.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh look at you.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Now follow me on this because I'm gonna hit you
with a big with a big number and you're gonna go, oh,
wait a minute, I can see Philadelphia being forced to
pivot to like a mid range passing game. Look, the
Chief defense is terrific. They don't give up big plays.
That's the one thing. The Chief defense doesn't give up
big plays. So I can see Saquon Barkley having a
one hundred and ten yard day. Maybe not one hundred

(28:46):
and thirty hundred and fifty, but one of those twenty
five carry one hundred and ten yard days where it's
a little bit more. It's tough for sledding. So if
that's the case, Philadelphia is gonna have to pivot. And
are they gonna be able to throw the ball deep
and make big plays with Brown and Smith? Probably not.
But Goddard's a big target, right, He's a guy if
they have to pivot, He's someone that's gonna get a

(29:06):
lot of attention and a lot of attention from Jalen Hurts. So, okay, Jason,
what but why so special? Why is Dallas Goddard so special?
I could say the same thing for Travis Kelcey. Ask
me answer me this. Mike Carmon, who was the worst
team in the NFL covering the tight end this year,
Jets what stopped. It's not the Jets, they're always they

(29:28):
can never cover the tight end. But the worst team.
I can't believe the side swiped on that. The Kansas
City Chiefs have allowed the most yards and the second
most receptions to tight ends this season. This is throughout
the entire year where their defense has been really good,
won a lot of games. They've allowed one hundred and
six receptions and nearly twelve hundred yards receiving. Again, they

(29:51):
allowed the most yards and the second most receptions to
tight ends. And they're right up there for touchdowns as well,
six or eight touchdowns. Yeah, so could Alas Goddard suddenly
have one of those ten catches one hundred yards and
a touchdown, one hundred ten yards and a touchdown type game,
and you know, the Eagles win it twenty four, twenty one,
and suddenly he's the MVP because we could give it

(30:12):
to Barkley. You know, he ran for round and ten yards,
but I mean Goddard caught ten passes, he had a touchdown,
he had two touchdowns. Yeah, maybe Goddard's the MVP. Hurts
doesn't have the numbers to back it. Up, So if
you're looking for a long shot, he's plus ten thousand.
But just think about think about what I told you
about the Chiefs not being able to cover the tight
end and got it to your MVP.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
See, I'm gonna get cute with it looking at it
from the defensive standpoint that maybe there's been enough noise
for both defenses that they get some consideration, right that
big stop, that big play down the end. So I'm
gonna give you one from each team, so I don't
tip my hand to the overall pick. I mean, because
you got to build up to something in this life.

(30:54):
Jalen Carter a lot made about while the Bear's passing
on him, for one, but also know what he has
meant to this defense. How destructive he is. You know
the next great big name. He is also plus ten thousand,
so one hundred to one. For those keeping score at home, Goddard,

(31:14):
I've actually found even bigger odds for you at one
twenty to one. So I'm gonna let you go and
you can tick that down. So if it comes through,
you look like even that much more of a genius.
And if you bet it, yeah, you're even that much
further ahead on the other side, Chris Jones is sixty
five to one. But the guy that I've highlighted a

(31:34):
bunch is George carloftis getting free, getting after it, creating
a bit of a path of destruction for Jalen Hurts.
So trying to find the defensive sides because when we
look at the offenses, look, you know all the usual suspects.
Kelsey's fourteen to one. You've got the Eagles wide receiver Goddard,

(31:54):
one of our favorites, longtime fantasy and the hero and
a guy it just means so much to their squad.
But going from the defensive side that maybe Spagnolo, maybe
Vic Fangio, they've got something that they can dial up
and we can find a big upset here.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Jason, you love picking the defense. You go all the
way back to Richard Dent and Superdo twenty. That's why
you love looking for the defense. He's gonna get three
sacks and be the defensive MVP, like every year. You
love picking the defensive guys.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Well, I mean, look, I get massive odds and it
means that the the it's given us a tremendous script. Right,
So either a defense is dominated from pillar to post
or it becomes the signature play of that Super Bowl
to get to the get down at endpoint, there are.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Are long shot Super Bowl MVP picks right here on
Fox Sports Radio. We got more coming up in ninety seconds.
But first, a man who's been called the Richard Dent
of Fox Sports Radio because one time in the parking
lot hit a guy named Richard's car called the Big
Tents had to pay a lot money. It's Steve ta Saga.
He's got what's trending.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
If you've seen Richard Deavan, it's probably the only way,
the only, the only correlation between the two. We do
have NBA news to pass along. As the Lakers, Lebron
James is now listed as doubtful for Saturday afternoons game
due to a sore ankle. Luka Donsich could debut for
his new LA team on Monday. Anthony Davis, now with
the Mavericks, will debut with his new club on Saturday.
He's missed the last five games with an abdominal strain,

(33:27):
and Jimmy Butler, now with Golden State, is cleared to
play Saturday. Minnesota's Anthony Edwards is questionable for Saturday with
a sore hip. Guard Ben Simmons reportedly finalized to buy
out with the Nets. Brooklyn was a home winner over
Miami tonight one O two eighty six. The NBA All
Star Saturday Night in about a week will include Spurs
rookie Stefan Castle in the slam Dunk contest. Castle, off

(33:49):
the bench, had thirty three points, but the Spurs lost
in the final second at Charlotte tonight one seventeen, one
sixteen on a last second three pointer by Miles Bridges,
who twenty five points. Cleveland's record now forty two to
ten after a victory at Washington one thirty four one
twenty four. Detroit did not have Cad Cunningham tonight out
with a sprained ankle, and they still dominated the first

(34:12):
half against Philly and went on to beat him one
twenty five, one twelve. Atlanta over Milwaukee won fifteen one
ten for the Bucks. Gianna Santenacoumpo was out again with
a sore calf. Oklahoma City is now forty one and
nine after beating Toronto one twenty one, one oh nine,
just one late game in the second quarter. Utah leeds
at Phoenix thirty six to twenty seven each team from

(34:34):
three point range three of fifteen so far. In college
hoops on Fox TV Top twenty matchup at Yukon went
to Saint John's beating Connecticut sixty eight sixty two. Yukon
committed twenty two turnovers. Earlier Number seven per Due beat
USC ninety to seventy two. Indiana Hoosiers coach Mike Woodson
will step down after this season. In the NHL, Winnipeg

(34:55):
won its eight straight game, four to three over the Islanders,
and Tiger Woods will play in next time week's PGA event.

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(35:24):
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(36:05):
We know how the first three picks in the NFL
draft are going to go. Shador Sanders was asked today, Hey,
how does it feel? How are you going to feel
if you slip past number one? Not being the number
one overall pick, which is owned by the Tennis Titans,
And he told the ESPN why would I be mad?
These are good problems to have. You could be in
a way worse situation. Being number one doesn't matter to me.

(36:29):
It's all about fit.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Two things coming off of this one. This sounds like
a guy knowing I'm not going to be the number
one pick, but also because he's going to the Giants, right.
We told you this a week and a half ago
when when Shador Sanders was in Dallas and he was
interviewed on the sideline of the game. Didn't play in
the East West Shrine game, but said, I'll be exciting
to be here in a few months playing against the Cowboys, Giants,

(36:55):
NFC East rivals. He's met with all the teams. He's
going to be a giant, right, It's going to happen,
and it's gonna be a giant because they're going to
need to take him because he's gonna bring them an
identity in boy Shador Sanders. How much fun has he
been in college football? Now he's gonna be in the NFL.
He's gonna be ten times more fun than he was
in college football. He's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
But I still want him as a member of the Titans.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah. Yeah, But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
I mean, as much as I love the big armed
Will Levis and all but.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Teams are teams are gonna get they They know that
the Giants are his preferred destination. Right, he said this,
I don't mind not going number one, gonna be here
playing for Dallas. You know, team Shador has let it
be known. The Giants are his preferred destination. Where else
do you want to go a team that is one
of the biggest heritage teams in the in the history
of the NFL, number one market in the country. He

(37:45):
wants to go to New York, and the other teams
will get scared off of him because if this is
his preferred destination, you know that. Look, chadur and Dion
Sanders are very brash. They want him to go to
a spot that's great for him. They don't want him
to go to a spot that's not good for him.
They haven't said anything, but teams are gonna go if
we take the Titans, and the Browns are gonna go

(38:06):
if we take Shador. Do we have to worry about
a phone call right after the draft going he's not
coming there and trade traded to the Giants or trade
he's not. He's not coming here. He's not however long
you want, doesn't matter. He's not gonna come there, like
we saw Eli Manning do it to find his way
to New York. Look, every generation something like this happens. Right,
it's about twenty years since that happened. The Titans and

(38:27):
the Browns will be scared off. The Titans will wind
up taking Travis Hunter because of course that's who you
take at number one. The Browns need a quarterback and
they'll get cam Ward. That's an easy pick for them,
and the Giants sitting at three are gonna go. Okay,
Chador Sanders like, that's how the draft is going to go.
The only way is it. Maybe I could see the
Titans trading out, but I don't think anybody's gonna trade

(38:47):
a huge ransom to go up to one for Travis Hunter.
They'll be like, no, no, We're kind of good where
we're at right now. So I think at the end
of the day, it's gonna go Hunter cam Ward, and
Shador Sanders has let it be known he wants to
be a Giant. He'll be going to the Giants at
number three.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Say you love him there and and then look in
the end. I've been impressed with everything and every clip
I've watched this guy, not not on the field, but
the way he interacts with folks and during Super Bowl
week making his rounds. I know Dion was was all
over the place today, But for Shador Sanders and the

(39:20):
number of people with the hyperbole, they didn't quite go
the Hey, they changed he changed my life, like they
did with Sean McDonough and those guys back with Tim
Tebow all those years ago. But you know, just everybody
coming away just talking about the way he treated everybody
and and and greeted all of the background h players, right,

(39:40):
people helping to get broadcasts up and going around New Orleans.
So kind of cool in that regard. Yeah, I mean,
the Titans have said they don't want to pass on
a generational guys, So you have to try to determine
what that means if they've identified that that that and
you know how much I love the term generational, But
is that abdual Carter? Is that somebody else that they've

(40:02):
identified as an offensive lineman or another edge guy or
or whatever. Uh? And then Cleveland's always a wild card.
I mean, but.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
These are picks that get you fired. Like if you
take Travis Hunter, if you take Travis Hunter number one
and he doesn't turn out to be a great player,
what are you gonna do? Well, he was the guy
to take right Heisman Trophy with a two way player.
How are you not gonna take him?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Well? I drafted him and I told him to use it.
The best way possible, and he and he and he
obviously chose Fraw.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Why is he only being played on special teams? Why
is it, Come on, you're gonna play on offense or
he's only on special teams. Uh, those are decisions where no, no,
we're going off the board for the day. That gets
you fired if it doesn't, if it doesn't pan out.
So that's why the in the end, it's gonna go
the The right and the safe picks are Hunter cam
Ward to Door Sanders. That's how it goes. Let's go boom,

(40:50):
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