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Jason and Mike open hour 2 discussing recent comments from Scottie Scheffler where he reflected on how unfulfilling it really is to win in golf. They also discuss a new upcoming docuseries on UNC football under Bill Belichick!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in side hour too the Jason Smith Show
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Mouch up up.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
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(00:56):
the top of your screen so you can lock it
in and rip the nub off. Now, you're gonna have
to explain a big thing's popularity to me in a second.
But you know a little bit more on Scotty Scheffler
from a few minutes ago, because you know, after we
you know, we finished talking before trending came up, and
Alex Tiger said, you know, I kind of see Scotty's

(01:18):
point on this. Yeah, Alex Tischer has discovered sports in
the last two weeks, which is nice. And you know,
talking about how Scheffler and hey, if you you know,
what you do for a living doesn't need to define
you and who you are, and I understand that, but
it's specifically what he said that we can expand in
this here a little bit because, as I said, Scotty
Scheffler now has an incredible day today, best golfer in

(01:40):
the world despite the fact he seems to not love
playing golf, jumps out to a one stroke lead and
made all headlines this week for his press conference, which
he talked about how difficult and unsatisfying the life of
succeeding in golf is.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Gonna play this sound bite back for you again. This
is scheffer from the other day and kind of span
the point to where you understand about how when I say,
if golf isn't making you happy, then stop playing it.
Take a listen.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Is it great to be able to win tournaments and
to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf.
Yet it brings tears myers to think about because it's
literally worked my entire life to become good at this sport.
And to have that kind of sense of accomplishment, I
think is a pretty cool feeling, you know, to get
to live out your dreams, it's very special. But at
the end of the day, I'm not out here to
inspire the next generation of golfers. I don't I'm not
here to inspire somebody else to be the best player

(02:28):
in the world. Because what's the point. You know, this
is not a fulfilling life. It's fulfilling from the sense
of accomplishment, but it's not fulfilling from a sense of
like the deepest places of your heart.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, So a couple of things to expand on this
conversation we had, Mike. Is that one to sit there
and say I'm not out here to inspire the next
generation of golfers. It's just a jerky thing to say, right,
because there's plenty of kids out there who would love
to be and aspire to be the greatest golfers of
their generation. What do you mean what's the point. I
think there's plenty of other people that would see a
great point having the career of being a great golfer

(03:01):
and realizing your dreams. Like, you don't sit here and
like what he's trying to say is that, hey, because
I've found a way to not be in love with
the sport anymore, you shouldn't be either. You know what,
Let me decide what my dreams are. You decide what
your dreams are. So that's my first point is that
that's really kind of a jerky thing for him to say,
and say, you know, if you're not happy, that's you, man,
But don't stare it. Tell me there's no point said.

(03:23):
So many people make a living playing golf, whether it's
on the PGA Tour, whether it's teaching golf, whether it's
whether it's coaching golf at colleges, there's high schools. I mean,
golf is a really big bleep in industry. Man, don't
sit here and tell me what's the point. It's like saying.
It's like saying, what's the point to the fast food industry?
Come on, man, fast.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Food indufty keeps everybody going. Man, I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean, don't sit here and tell me there's no
point to winning golf tournaments. It's because that if that's you,
If that's what you think, that's great, But don't put
that on other people. Let other people decide what they
do or want to do with their life.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I think part of it is just you know, verbage choice,
right in terms of how he's going through this, almost
like he has this epiphany and he's now talking it
out without really having an endgame, right, throwing in the
role model thing is is kind of an inspiring golfers,
all right, that happens by accident. All he needs is

(04:16):
a one line, one liner add on to make that clear.
It's like, you know, I do well. I mean, it's
cool that if it inspires, but that's not the goal.
Move on and make your next point kind of thing.
But you know, to your point, yeah, I mean it's
a multi billion dollar business. You know, you go and
you get yourself fitted for for your clubs, custom made,
custom paid, custom fitted, all of those different apparel lines

(04:38):
and everything else you got going on there. We know
people that have left or the radio business and gone
into the golf apparel line, like that's what they do
for their their work now, right, So, I mean you've
you've seen a lot of growth in the industry, go
back to when when Tiger came in and the EBB
and flow and and such. But for Scheffler, I mean,
I understand, and as we've talked to you and I

(05:01):
I understand, you know, the larger as existential why are
we here? What do we what are we doing? Golf
isn't the be all to end all, But when you're
there to promote a major, this is probably one of
those a you know, sixty minutes, you know, make the
breakfast and sit around and talk about where you're at
in your life kind of thing, as opposed to sitting

(05:22):
at the podium promoting the sport as the final major.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Of the year.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, and you know, and the other part is this
for him to say, as he said, what's the point, right?
I got a chance to go live out my dreams?
What's the point?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now? And look, sometimes you start, you you take a
career path, and after you do it for a while,
you decide, you know what, I'm kind of done doing it.
I'm ready to do something else, right. I think lot
lots of us have had had that point where I
got to the point where I go, you know what,
I need a break from radio. I kind of want
to do something else. I did it for a few
for a few years. I went back to radio.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Like I get that. I completely understand that.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But for him to say, what's the point, right, and
and what's the point golf is not a fulfilling life?
Okay again, let me go back to what I said
a couple a couple of minutes ago. Plenty of people
can can find a fulfilling life playing golf professionally.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Plenty of people can do it.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Plenty of people can find a great life being a
golf pro, running a golf course again, teaching gold, you know,
being a golf coach in college. Plenty of people can
find that. You get to do two things in life, right,
if you want to get deep in existential like SCOTTISCHEFFI,
you get two things in life. You get to do
You get to pick what you want to do family
wise and what you want to do professionally.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Right, those are the big things.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Right. You got family and you have professional Right, you
have your family life which could be which which is
is your your parents, your kids, your wife, your relatives,
your brother, your sister, your uncle, your aunt, whatever it is.
And then there's the path you choose to take professionally.
These are the two things you get to do in
your life right and and these are two things that
quite honestly, you should take them seriously because these are

(06:56):
the two things you get to do right if you can.
If you want to, just hey, find my way.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I want to be much more family oriented, personal oriented
than professionally. I get it, man, I completely get I
think that's a great choice. If you want to be
more professional oriented, then you are family oriented. Hey, great
choice too, man, go do it. If you want to
try to find a way to balance both, which is
I mean, this is what I try to do, and

(07:23):
I think a lot of people try to find. This
is that I want to have the balance between professionally
and what I do and personally, and sometimes one takes
a little bit more presidents.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Over the other.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
But this is what I'm looking for, the balance. All
any of those things, they all work. But if you're
telling me that golf is not a fulfilling life, why
are you doing it? Like what, you have enough money,
You've done everything, You've gotten to the top of your profession,
You've done everything you wanted to do right, you got
on top, you have more than enough cash, You've done
it all. If this isn't making you happy, why do
you still do it? Right? Go do something else that

(07:54):
will make you happy. And if that be and if
that's not doing anything and and being happy personally, great.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
You don't need to.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Man, You've made so much money already, it doesn't matter.
You could go do anything else you want. Why wouldn't
you leave and go do something else that makes you happy?
If clearly golf does not hold the thrill for him
that it once did. He's great at it, he's in
his prime. We see that it's awesome. But if this
is truly what it's why I mean, it's kind of
tough to root for him to win, because boy, I'd
like somebody to win who really burns to win, and like,

(08:23):
hey this is I Like, I get the Rory McElroy.
I'm so burnt out because I put everything into winning
this career Grand Slam. I need some time.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Wait. I understand that, man, I understand being driven and
wanting to win so badly. But that's why I say,
if this is where you're at and it's not a
fulfilling life. Well again, you get one chance, you know,
you know, one rotation around this globe where you get
to do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Go do something else that makes you happy. If doing
nothing makes you happy, great, If doing something else makes
you happy, awesome. But it's clearly that this isn't golf.
So if this is how you feel about it, then
maybe you should stop playing. I mean I kind of
feel I would. I would give anybody advice.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's it's still the where from where he starts to
where he finishes. It is just such a divide right
when he the tears in my eyes of what I've accomplished,
the work I've put in and everything else, and then
by the end he's unsatisfied and that and that's the cure.
Like everybody, you have no idea what's going on in
in between people's years. We talk about it all the time,

(09:23):
right on a given day, right, try to be as
kind as you can because you have no idea what's
what's on the other side there and how how you're
going to be received, what that person's going through, uh,
and everything else. With Scheffler, I mean, there's there's obviously
something going on some disconnect between when he's playing and
he's locked in and ready to loaded for bear versus

(09:46):
the quiet time to where maybe the stuff in the
head gets to jumble around a little bit and he's
not thinking about his golf game, he's not thinking about
the next shot and thinking about the the larger space. Yeah,
it's a tough place to be. I mean, lots of
folks get into jobs they love you referenced, you know,
needing to step back. You know, you have ambitions, you

(10:07):
think things are going to go on a certain path.
Sometimes you run into a wall and then you you
have to figure out how to how to get out
of that one way street and pivot. You know. It's
that kind of thing, or figure out how to get
through or over said wall. But it's the thing for
Sheffeler right now. It's it's really an interesting split right now.
Of while we're kind of setting him up, as as

(10:29):
I mentioned, a couple of other golfers, including a couple
of guys chasing him on the leader board, are making
some of those tiger references. And you're starting to see
that in articles the way he's locked in and and
has become you know, the jaws eating everything in his sight,
uh here on the tour, but it's still that that

(10:49):
conflict that's going through through his head, right, It's it's
here's all this greatness, but now we're really thinking about
his headspace and talking about mental health and and fill
mint and everything else to where man, it's it's it's
not just box scores, is it.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah it's not.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
And it's and clearly you look, he's still playing, he's
still doing well, he's here everything else. I just feel like, yeah,
you're right. He goes from hey, here's a deep thing.
I'm gonna going to open the door, and to who
I am, and then it gets into a very condescending,
jerky type area of Okay, now I'm gonna tell you
what golf is like and how how unfulfilling it is,
Like okay, I don't need you to tell me that,

(11:27):
but I mean a bottom line is like I know
it seems like I'm coming down on the guy, but
I'm like, no, I would get if a friend came
to me who was really successful at what they did
for a living and and and they said to me
the same kind of things, like you know, I have
a grata, but I you know, it's not fulfilling. It
doesn't it's it's not something that's fulfilling, and I don't
know what the point there is to it. I would
first thing I would say is, Okay, maybe you need

(11:49):
a break, you know what, what do you think about
taking a break?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:52):
And and and not playing for a while and seeing
if that fire is still there and if and if
and if that person went on to say, yeah, I
just you know, I just don't see the point. I
would say, all right, you know what, then you then
you should stop doing it and do something else. Be happy,
be happy with you know, like like I said, be happy.
You get one chance at this, Be happy and go
do something you've you've you've really you've lived out your

(12:13):
dream and and you've done it to a level unlike
anybody else in the history of the sport. You're the
most dominant player we've seen outside of Tiger Woods in
the last twenty five thirty years.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Like it's really it's been Tiger.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
We thought it might be Rory, we thought it might
be Jordan Speith, but Scottie Scheffler's run the last few
years has been better than than any of them, and
being at the top for three years is a pretty
big deal. So I would say, you've done that. Now,
you know it's get inspiration from something else and go
do something else.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
You have the means to do it, you have the
you have the ability to do it. You're young, I mean,
you you have everything going your way. Find something else
that that really lights you up, and go do that, right.
I mean, I would say, the minute that radio doesn't
become fun for me anymore and I don't come in
turn the mic on and I love and I love
doing it, I'm gonna try to do I'm gonna do
something else right, I mean, and knock wood. I hope

(13:02):
that day is a long way away. I love doing
what I do. But I mean, if if you're not
happy about doing something, okay, then it's okay. You know what,
I'm gonna go do something else. Like when I went
to NFL Network, I wanted to try. I wanted I
wanted to do TV for a couple of years. I
wanted to see I wanted to break from radio right,
wanted to break from doing it every day. I had
done five hours a night by myself overnight, and I said,

(13:25):
you know what, it's time to do something else. I
really need that, And after three years doing TV, I'm like,
all right, great, I scratched that itch.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
It was fun.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'd like to keep doing it a little bit if
I can, and I did for a long time. But
I really want to get now. I want to get
back to doing right because I want to get back
to doing that again because I really miss it and
I had three years away from it, and I recharge,
and here where you are you and I, you know,
eleven years later and we're still rolling with this. So
I mean, like I get the point of, hey, when
you need a break, go do something else. It's not

(13:53):
something you want to come back to. Don't come back
to do it.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, I mean, and look, we put it out in
the universe. I mean you have to. You have to
do such things, I guess, And and we do it
here on our national what is it five hundred plus
affiliates and all that fun stuff. You know, we're working
to Bobby Benia day. I mean, that's what we're.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Trying to exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
So that's my point about Scotti Schffler, Right, that's my
point about Scheffler going he was probably gonna wind up
winning the British the Open Championship and then saying yeah,
great I won, but it's all rum leave and see
everybody goodbye.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
But but wait, here's the clarity. No no, no, dout of
care about.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
I want nothing. Leave me alone. I'm going home.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I say something.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
I just have a hypothetical for you.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
Say Tom Brady won his fourth Super Bowl and then
comes out at the whatever it is parade and he's like,
you know what, I just still don't feel fulfilled, and
he wins two more. Would you still say the same thing.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I would say. I would say to go do well.
First of I would tell Tom Brady I'm done of
him winning Super Bowl for him? Are going to do
something else? That's great?

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Leave no?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
But I mean like, but if you're not, But I
would tell him the same thing. I would say, then
what are you still playing football for? If you're not
fulfilled with what you're doing professionally, go do something else,
Do something that makes you happy that I want everybody
to be happy. I want people to want everybody to
be happy. Go do what makes you happy, especially if
you have the means to do so. Not everybody does, right,
Not everybody has the means that, hey, I'm choosing to

(15:18):
do this for a living. I've done it for a while,
I've lost my passion for it. Well, what would you
like to go do? Well, maybe you don't have the money,
you don't have the resources to go do it. You're
in a situation family wise where I can't move to
a place to go do it, and I can't do it.
But when you're young and you have the money to
get and you can go do something else, I don't
know why you wouldn't do it, Alex.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I would run it. Like like we're talking about the
two parts of his statement, right, there's that in eight wow,
look at what I've accomplished kind of thing. So I look,
everybody respects the brilliance that he's putting out on the course. Likewise,
in your Brady scenario, except for Jets fan over here.
I mean, we celebrate greatness, right, but you also recognize

(15:59):
the conflict on the other side. And I think Jason's advice,
you know, in a in a very general sense, is
a great one. I mean, this would rob us of
a great you know story if he's suddenly racking up
a ton of these but legitimately, if you're not fulfilled.
You know, it's just he's He's got it right man.
We've we've all experienced it, whether it's family members, some

(16:20):
health stuff, ourselves, circumstances that come and bite you in
the ass. Uh, just really quick that you know, life
terms turns on a dime, So go enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Exit out about a Fresca Exit Swallen Dome, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon, and Alex Tyshert, who in the last two
weeks has discovered sports and realizes it's a great place
to have discussion and have fun. It is.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
And I'm on Schefter's side just because you're the best
at the sport.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
You love it.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Ster.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
No, if you're on Adam, I'm on Adam Schefter's side.
I'm on the side of the guy that breaks stories
about NFLPA heads going to strip clubs.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
That's the side I'm on.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Wow, well, I mean you are on that side though,
Ty Shirt, So I mean that's not wrong side.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
I just think honestly, you just like took it too extreme,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Uh, talk about it.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
When the guy says there, what what's the point? What
say that? Life?

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Okay, that's what he said no, no, he literally said,
because they were asking like, do you f be fulfilled?
He was like, I've cried, I'm the best at this,
I spent my life doing it. I love it doesn't
fill the deepest parts of my heart, which you did
touch on. But I think he's just saying like, you
can be the best at something and still feel like
there's something missing.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, okay, okay, But if obviously he's that if he
says winning a tournament, I feel good for two minutes, dude,
you should be a feel better better for more than
two minutes after winning a turn winning a major, like
you should feel way. I mean, this is if this
is everything you work for to get there. If you
get there and do it and it's a letdown, okay, again,
I think you know, hey, why we should explore some

(17:52):
other avenues here. If if winning a major turna is
a you feel good for two minutes, I mean, my goodness, man.
I mean, Peter Alonzo hit that home run against the
Brewers last year, and I'm still thinking about that, even
when Carlos Mendoza does ridiculous crap like bringing the relievers
he did tonight first game out of the break with
a four day rest, and he brings up Triple A
guys to come out of the bullpen, and the Reds

(18:13):
light them up and we wind up losing. Right, But
doesn't matter because I think back to Alonzo's home run
and I'm happy and there was a home running the
wild card game.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
She what just happened there? Yeah, because we also tie
this and you've been with us and we were talking
about the Damian Lillard stuff. Yeah, and that's so polarizing
for some folks that just want to denigrate everything he's
about because maybe he wanted to go back and be
with his kids and wanted to go back to a
place he was comfortable. So suddenly he's the bad guy.
Just because you like it more than they do doesn't

(18:43):
mean it's wrong. And I'm not doing that to slap you.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Was great for it was great for Lillard, right, it was.
You know, Mark Stein joined us last night. He's a
romantic brought a tear too. Was like, yeah, I feel
guilty that all in the media pushed Lillard to leave
when clearly, hey, I'm happy staying in Portland. I'm trying
my bet he doesn't. He you know, he's a guy
that gives you his best every night, leaves it on
the floor. But the ultimate pursuing a champion. Hey, if

(19:07):
it happens here, great, I'm still gonna try to win
every day. But I like my life balance that I
have here in Portland. And that's okay, right. This is
not David Little saying, you know, I go out and
I score fifty points, I go, what's the point?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I mean, no, no, no, he wants to keep playing.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Why there's a little bit difference between Lillard and Scottie Scheffler. Yeah,
but again, exit out about a Fresca exit swelling Dome
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, Jason Smith, Mike Carmon,
So I wanted to get more of that debate on
Schefler and and again welcome Alex Tisher to the world
of sports talk radio. Thanks after eight years of being
on the show. But coming up, wow, ty Shir, buddy,

(19:47):
way to the way out here a sports talk radio
hosts man, and you don't know it what you are.
But coming up next, Harmon's got to explain one of
the the biggest things going on in sports and pop
culture the last twenty four hours, because really, I don't
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(20:09):
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Speaker 1 (20:56):
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Speaker 4 (21:10):
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Speaker 1 (21:13):
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Speaker 3 (21:17):
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Speaker 6 (21:17):
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(21:40):
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(22:01):
they see them on the jumbo tron and they back away,
and now there's an investigation by his board after he's
on there. And since this story comes out, it explodes.
It's everywhere pop culture wise. Now, teams are putting out
their own messages on the kisscam airlines or putting stuff

(22:21):
out about hey, go see a cold Play show, but
you know, we'll make sure, you know, make sure to
not get on the jumbo trotter, and and seeing different
sports teams putting out their own versions of the kisscamming. Look,
I gotta say it's genius that whoever it was put out,
it might have been John Boy, I don't know who
it was put out, the one where you know the
guy with arms around the woman and it's Patrick Mahomes

(22:43):
with his arms around a referee.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
No, that was good. Ai. That was that was that
was pretty well done.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
And I said, oh, that's the best one. I mean,
that's easily the best one. My Homes with his arms
around a ref Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I mean I like that that they got it inserted
into the Haunted Mansion. Oh yeah, I thought that was
kind of fun. Uh you know.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
But but you gotta explain this to me because I
don't understand the popularity of this, right. I mean, I
I get that it could be one of those weird,
quirky short time viral moments, but this thing has like
hawk tuah like like legs to it. Now, nobody knows
who these two people are. I don't even know. Nobody

(23:23):
knows whatever the hell astronomer is. I gotta think it's
something to do with space or the stars. I don't know,
or astronomy, but I assume that's what I don't know.
But like, nobody knows who these two people are. There
there there's no star power with this. It's and and
it's it's it's something that I thought, oh, hey, this
is kind of fun. Oh it gets out oh blah blah.
By the way, uh, this could be a potential affair

(23:45):
between a CEO and an HR person. I'm like, all right,
and it's not like there's been a shortage of things
happening in the world the last couple of days. It's like, boy,
it's been a slow couple of No, it's not been
slow news days, man, hey, slower news days. And sports
we haven't had games, you know, base just getting going side.
But in the world, I'm like, how.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Did this get so popular?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I mean, it's part of the charm of what makes
what we do for a living so interesting is that
you never know what's gonna break, Like you never know
what's something we're gonna say, Like you think, okay, we
have a great take on this, and this is gonna
go viral, and then it doesn't. And then something that
we kind of do that's maybe an average take, we think,
and all of a sudden it goes goes crazy viral.

(24:26):
I'm like, I don't understand. I can't believe that that
this is what it is. I get. I love the
unpredictability of it, and I think that's great because it's
what you know, keeps everybody coming back and trying to
figure things out. What can I do to cut through?
I get it, But like this, I don't understand the
popularity because nobody knows who these people are. It's not
like anybody knows the company they work for, and it's

(24:47):
not like they're very public people. Yet this story has
just taken off like a rock at the last forty hours.
So you gotta explain to me why this is such
a big deal, because I really I don't see it.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
I think some of it's the old show freude, all right,
all right, here laughing at the misfortune of others in
a giant public space with juice and power. Astronomer of
the company from a quick Search provides data orchestration services
specifically focused on making it easier for companies to run
and manage data platforms using Apache Airflow whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Okay, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Okay, so nothing to do with space, so they're lying
through naming. But it's it's some of that. It's the
wow that's just crazy because you watch the kiss cam
all the time, and you wonder how often that is.
So you know, you got some of the deep thought
pieces on that. You got folks kind of going into
their own lives and experiences or or things that have

(25:44):
happened to them and go see, see, and and all
of that. It's a slow, slow week in terms of
most pop culture like stuff. I mean, Superman is a
long time ago at this point, the release of that,
and Jurassic Parks a couple of weeks ago. Also, I mean,
you know, you don't have the movie. I mean, nobody's
really excited about smurfs or anything like that, so so

(26:06):
you push that aside. I think some of it it
was just the levels of trying to peel back the
onion of who these people are, and then you get
that and then you can go into the human side
of it. Right His wife takes her name off of
the Facebook page, puts up her maiden name. So done.

(26:29):
You know, were they having issues like you have? The
whole human side that I think people are interested in
trying to find out what was behind to get to
this point. But from the reaction and then the image
that I've seen as much as the original of the
two people embracing that's now been mocked by the Philly
fanatic and everybody else is the woman that's in the

(26:52):
corner of the box that has the look of oh
my god, this has just gone bad. Like she's the
one that's realizing get down, get down. Uh, And and
so it goes there. So there's a little bit of
the you know, the friend who kind of knows what's
going on, uh, you know, in the ruse as it were, So, yeah,
it shouldn't be up to this level. No, but let's

(27:15):
face it, we we try to avoid heavy topics wherever
we can, in our greater society, in your house or
in the great world at large. So you can point
at these folks and go, boy, what a maroon?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
No, And I get it, and and I get that
there should be a very short amount of popularity for
this right like that, Hey look at this, Oh my god,
that was the Coldplay content and then boom, you're done.
But instead this is this is a whole day thing.
And now, like I said, baseball teams are seizing on this,
and now it's become it's it's it's gotten its own
life on social media, and I well, it's it's it's

(27:49):
hard for me to see. I get the embarrassment, I
get what it is. I understand, I get it, I
get the human element of it. I understand that, Hey,
this is something to be embarrassing for anybody. I understand,
but like for it to continue to have these legs
where it should have been, Hey, this is something that
is it's fun for five minutes, right, Like when you're
walking through a mall and there's the guy that's that's

(28:11):
operating the helicopter in the middle of it's going around,
you're like, oh, and you stop and you watch, and
you go, oh, that's fun.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
You go, you know, that's something that's fun for five minutes.
And then you moving out.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
You're walking down you're going to Sophora, or you're going
to Old Navy, or you're going to the food courts, like,
uh so you stop and you watch a guy with
the helicopter.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh look at this.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, that's fun for five minutes, Like that's what this
should have been. But instead it's more like, instead of
being fun for five minutes, this is the guy's got
the helicopter, and everybody stops and they're coming out of
stores and they're throwing their stuff down and leaving their
credit cards. They're walking out going I can't believe this.
Helicopters just flying around over this. Well, it's swooping and
doing all these things and the guy is just doing it.
People are buying it and they're saying, give me whatever

(28:49):
you have. I want to have all of it. Like
that's the impact that this story is having.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, I think a couple of other things that come
into play. One, I mean cold Play's touring cool, it's okay, sure,
And the fact that Chris Martin when he saw it
from his piano, looked up and he made a point
to say, wow, what's going on there? Uh, you know
as part of part of the concert. So saw it
on the jumbo tron himself and mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
And then the CEO's response where he does the you know,
I'm very you know sorry in this and you know
from embarrassing, and and then the last paragraph was and
for cold Play, that was a private moment that you
made public. It's like the Stanza when he's wolfing down
the ice cream Sunday and they put him on the
jumbo cruntin jumbo tron. Al Right, he gets caught at it.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
So yeah, it's it's it's tough, man, it's okay.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
But but I think it's it's to some it's a levity, right,
you remove yourself from all of the serious nature of
it and and and what it means to those those
people individually, but as a whole, it'd say, Wow, the
Jumbo Tron, which is normally I mean, I remember, you know,
my first experience with the Jumbo Tron gone awry was
Axel Roseby and really late for a show on the

(30:01):
Usual Illusion Tour, which eventually became a three hour power
set that has acknowledged as one of the great shows
of that tour in Chicago. But what did the cameramen do?
Found all the hot, cute, attractive women in the audience,
however term you want to ascribe to it, and what
do they do? They obliged with showing a little bit
of themselves on the Joe Motron. So but willing accomplices

(30:25):
as opposed to this.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's amazing, it's amazing this has gotten that by it
doesn't it defies explanation.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Oh no, no, it's it's really gone far longer than
I would have thought. I really figured today. But figure
major League Baseball when you bring the mascots into it.
You got to get a little bit of a yeah, no, no,
the fact no.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
And I get that they're seizing on it and it's fun,
but I don't get why this has come so big,
Like this is what they're seizing on.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I don't because we're children.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
As if they left to society, we're dopes.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
It's caught it a Coldplay concert.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
That is true. That is I guess it's typically like
the guys like the O, they're both probably about fifty
hour a Coldplay concept.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Jason, Okay, deeply right.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
No, this would have never happened.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, all right, No, okay, at another concert, it might not.
You're right, it might not have happened in other concert.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Think about it.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
If they hadn't made a big deal out of it
and like reacted on camera, they probably would have been fine.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
And like, yeah, that's the other one.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Right, It would have died on the vine.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Would have been a deal, but it would no one would.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Have looked at him twice.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh cute, Okay, Chris Martin saying, hey, this is our
last time we're ever going to be relevant.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
All right, Hey, it's because of this. It's gonna make
it happen.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
All right, it's a hell of a run though, I mean,
I mean you now are gonna have this as probably
the top paragraph of your Wikipedia page. Forget about your
global downloads and sales and concert tours that have been successes.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. And someone who's been called the coldplay
of Fox Sports Radio good because he always pays attention
to the clocks. Oh it's Steve the segerh Kin. I
could have said you peaked in two thousand.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
And eighth, but I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I said the clocks line.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
I have not performed at Super Bowl halftime. Just for
the record, pitchers duels in the two late ball games
in the majors. As we resume play in the Major
League schedule. Today, we had the first day of the
quote second half at Wrigley Field, Chicago. The Cubs beat
Boston four to one. Tonight. The White Sox were ten
to one winners at Pittsburgh in La tonight. The Brewers,
who have won seven in a row, are leading the

(32:33):
Dodgers one nothing, make that two nothing. They've just homered
in the top of the seventh off the bullpen La
starter Tyler Glasnow had gone the first six innings with
six strikeouts, also going at Seattle, It's Mariners won nothing
over Houston in the top of the seventh, Randy Rose
Arena with a long ball. Luis Castillo is still pitching
in the seventh. He has seven strikeouts. At Arizona, it's

(32:56):
seven nothing Diamondbacks over Saint Louis in the top of
the eighth. Brandon Fott, Diamondbacks starter, seven scoreless innings and
six strike ass everything else's final. Texas sent Detroit to
a fifth straight loss, two nothing. Corey Seeger a two
run double in the bottom of the eighth. Colorado sixty
four over Minnesota. The win to Kyle Freeland, who was

(33:16):
one to ten this year at Tampa Bay Junior Camanero
two home runs. He has twenty five. The Rays rip
Baltimore eleven to one. Atlanta beat the Yankees seven to
three Ozzie Albi's a home run and four RBIs. Cleveland
was up on the A's eight to one after five innings,
eight sixth the final Cincinnati and Toronto with wins. Miami
won on a tenth inning two run homer from Kyle

(33:38):
Stowers eight to seven over Kansas City, San Diego with
five runs in the ninth one seven to two at Washington.
The Nationals have lost five straight and the Angels won six'
five At philadelphia Despite Kyle schwarber's thirty first home run
of the. Season Scottie scheffler leads the open by one
stroke after a second round sixty four In Northern. Ireland
Matt fitzpatrick From england and is in second. Place rory

(34:01):
McElroy is tied for twelve seven. Shots Back Sergio garcia
barely made the cut at one overpar as Did bryson De.
Shambo Jason day just missed the. Cut The patriots signed
second round running Back Trevion henderson four years fully. Guaranteed
The bears gave second round wide Receiver Luther burden a
fully guaranteed. Deal no second round pick had ever received

(34:22):
a fully guaranteed contract until this. Year THE wnba is
On All Star weekend In. Indianapolis Sabrina Yenescu tonight won
the three point. Shootout Caitlin, clark now, injured was due
to be in that. Contest The Skills challenge went To
New York's Natasha cloud in the. Quarterfinals the women, soccer
Euro spain eliminated Host switzerland. Too nothing could have been.

(34:43):
Worse they missed two penalty. Kicks spain out shot him
twenty three to four and at seventy two percent of
the possession in the. Game the quarterfinals And saturday On
FOX tv With france Against. Germany The semis start On.
Tuesday back to, You.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Thank, YOU. Steveo coming up, next there's a big football
story that had our attention for a good two month
span and now we haven't had any news on it
in the last few. Weeks but, oh do we have
something new on it? Now that's next right, Here jason And,
Mike Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Radio, jason look, up you're on The kiss.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
Camp but, no not, me not.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Me i'm not at The coldplay, Concert.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Duck be sure to catch live editions Of The Jason
Smith show With Mike harmon weekdays at ten Pm, eastern
seven Pm, Pacific Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Radio The Jason Smith show With my best Friend Mike,
Harmon True live from The Fox Sports radio. Studios and,
uh if you're missing all the headlines we've been getting
for most of the summer About Bill belichick And Jordan,

(35:49):
hudson you're saying.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Where did they all?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Go what?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Happened, oh we're not gonna get?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Anymore uhh. Uh hulu apparently is going to do a
documentary kind of in the vein of The Hard knocks
that That North carolina was supposed to. Do but, then
depending on who you want to, believe it was either
canceled Because belichick And North carolina said, no Or Hard knocks, said,

(36:16):
hey we're not gonna Let Jordan hudson dictate the details
of what we're, Doing so we're not doing. It but
Now hulu is getting involved because they see an. Opening
hey there's interest In Bill belichick in a big way
because of his relationship With Jordan. Hudson so, yeah now
there's going to be some kind of documentary About North carolina.
Football not a lot of, details but it was announced

(36:38):
that some sort of way they're going to follow him the.
Team it's not known what it's going to. Cover is
it going to cover their, relationship it's going to cover just,
football will it cover other, coaches will it cover anything?
Outside but we're going to get some sort of of
docuseries on.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
It AND i know.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
The first reaction THAT i saw today WHEN i saw this,
STORY i, said but, wait everybody told Me Bill belichick
is getting. Fired he's gonna get. Fired is he a
school doesn't like what's going?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
On he's gonna get.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Fired what did we tell you when this was Added
zenith right in the days after the video got out
Of Jordan hudson TELLING, cbs, hey we're not talking about
our relationship And Pablo tory finding out about this, relationship
and here's the, deal and here's when they first. Met
and you know how old she was and how old he,

(37:28):
was and you, know this really was something that all
of a sudden took up so much. Time but to
realize that all these things that, happened that was the
interview WITH cbs and their, relationship these are all things
that it happened a few weeks before this story broke,
right ONCE cbs was gonna air, this then that's when
we all found. Out but this is all things that

(37:48):
happened a while. Ago and when this, happened we told
you just, wait things are gonna calm. Down, Right things
are calming, down and they would read the room and
have a low profile Summerse belichick is gonna, say, okay,
football if football goes, south this is bad for both of. Us,
okay so we got this summer has to be about

(38:08):
football now AND i gotta be out of the spotlight
and get ready for the. Season and that's exactly what's.
Happened they've stayed out of the. Spotlight there's been no
real headlines other than you're really digging for, Oh Bill
belichick's former girlfriend not happy That Jordan hudson tried to
go to this. Party and, okay and that was the
final embers of this. Story, Right but we told you
it was gonna be a low pressure summer and they

(38:29):
were gonna stay off the radar, because, hey coaching football
and succeeding At North, carolina that's the big. Deal BUT
i will say, This, mike there's no Way belichick's not
in a potential one and done situation With North. Carolina
they have an easy schedule this. Year go look at.
It they should win a lot of. Games if they,
don't this is. It he's gonna do one year At
North carolina. Done BECAUSE i don't believe for a second

(38:51):
that any falsities to the report, said, yeah they're not
happy with how this Whole Belichick Jordan hudson thing is playing. Out,
Right i'm, sure they're not. HAPPY i don't think any
but he is. HAPPY i don't think the other coaches are.
HAPPY i think the players are. Happy but this is
the way it. Goes but he's gonna get this. Season
if he, wins, okay we'll keep. Going but if he
kind of meanders around and at six and six, ish
and there's a couple of stories that come out that

(39:14):
sort of take away from the football, Team, yeah this
is gonna be the last time you See Bill belichick
coach on the sideline in. Football, ever this it will
be a one and done year for him At North.
Carolina if he doesn't, win it's gonna be one and.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Done i'm wondering.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
If we're not in a scenario whereby we're back to
it being like like a, duck where everything looks all
calm and collected above the, water and then you get
the mirror image of what the webbed feed are doing, underneath,
right the frantic pace to keep yourself afloat and keep
yourself moving across the. Pond and For, belichick that was
a lot of what what life was life Kid New.

(39:48):
England you didn't have any of, This you had no
idea what kind of chaos was behind the scene until
all of a, sudden, tada what was? It your Guy
Don vandana and all those guys suddenly started writing and
keep on going down the line for the guys that
covered things out Of New, england same thing. Here all
of a sudden it got really. Quiet it's, like so
did it all go? Away and everybody just, Realized, hey

(40:08):
it's time to go to, work and you excized whatever
noisy uh you found and got rid of the leak
to anything that you didn't want getting out into the.
Public so is it one and? DONE i don't, know
but certainly a television show will help to highlight things
of how he operates for. Players in the next iteration of,

(40:32):
THINGS i think it's a two year. Plan year, one
go play and play, well plus THE tv show to show,
HEY i can relate and you can come and kick
ass for.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
ME i would say eight wins is sort of the
number you gotta get to because the because the publicity
was so, bad you go five hundred one and.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Done that's, It.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Belie coming up, next we get back into the biggest
story of the.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
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