September 8, 2026 • 36 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss Bill Belichick and the North Carolina football allegations and why he may not finish the season as the Tar Heels HC.
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your podcasts. You'll find today's full show and a best-of
version posted right after we get off the air. So
as you heard Steve DeSager very loquaciously tell you, yes,
we are only at halftime for the college football game
of the day, Labor Day night. SMU leads Florida State
17-10 at halftime. An hour and 40-minute delay because of
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a power outage.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Smoke signals have been employed.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
As you have seen, there have been a lot of
things going on in this game that... Normally, we don't
get now. Can't use iPads. No, no, no, no, no.
Communication between the sideline and the players, very, very, very limited, right?
You're not getting anything that you normally get with a
normal college football, high-level college football game. The lights aren't...
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There's not as many lights as there normally are. You
can see it looks like a little bit of mood lighting, but...
It does look like it is bright enough for the players.
You know, what I've seen so far, I've not seen
anything where, hey, they're not making plays because of the lights,
because of of situation so at least there's that but
it's uh you know like we said to start the
show time travel is possible hey what was college football
(02:02):
like in the 80s and 90s there was a lot like.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
This get ourselves a little bit of friday night lights
we don't have full coverage we got whatever we can
get i mean i can't tell you the number of
times that that my daughter played at fields and all
of a sudden because someone forgot to i don't know
the time change hey the lights went off can we
get them back on maybe We'll see.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Just contacted a guy to see if he can get
them back on. And meanwhile, we're sitting around for 45 minutes,
staring at each other, waiting for a second half to begin.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
They can't get them turned back on. Hopefully we're a
little better here.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well, there was one day we play. I was coaching and, and,
The lights went off because they were supposed to go
off at 8 o'clock, and they thought the game would
be over by then. And they went off at 8,
but we started late, and it was halftime, and all
the players were like, oh, this is it. And I
turned to my assistant coach. I said, yeah, I'm okay
with them keeping the power off because I think we're
running out of gas. We're going to lose this game.
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I'll take the 1-1 tie. We'll take the draw. I
think they're going to run us up and down the
field the second half. And sure enough, they did. And
they won 3-1. And I was like, yep, I would
have easily taken that tie. Got home with the tie
right there. How long did you delay?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Hey. Did you go to the rule book?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
How long can a delay happen before I can call?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
We were actually about 10 minutes away from calling it.
We were about 10 minutes away. And I'm like, okay. Oh,
we got the lights back on. I'm like, okay. All right,
let's go. Let's get ready to go, and let's get
back out there. I was like, yeah, no, we're going
to lose this game. We were just running out of
gas against them, and they were moving the ball. They
were going across the field. They were switching the field,
and I could tell we were having a tough time
keeping up, and I just said, yeah, yeah, we're going
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to lose this game in the second half, and that's
what I was saying. I should have just said, that's it.
It's over. All the lights are out. Everybody go home.
Everybody go home.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
1-1.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
1-1 is the final. That's it. It's over. It's over, everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You were the ringleader in all those college classes when
a professor was late, weren't you?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Oh, one more minute. We can leave.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, there was always the one person right at, uh,
at class. I was like, How long are you legally
supposed to wait until you leave? And everybody would say
whatever they want to say. It's a minute. It's a
minute after. It's supposed to start at 8 o'clock. If
it's 8.01, professor's not here. We can go. It's like,
go whenever you want to. The professor, he's either going
to show up or he's not. He's going to care
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or he's not. Or you're not. And you think he's
going to show up and say, hey, everybody, just leave. No,
of course. Professors, they want to work. They want to
do things. It's not like. You know, it's not like
where they could say, hey, let's just hang out and
I'll get on my phone. No, they're going to teach.
So you stay as long as you want. But understand,
we could wind up having class. It's going to go
that way.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Good job. It is. Yeah, it is fun because it's
a really weird thing. Like, because I was thinking about
this a lot the last hour that, OK, there's a
lot of things electronically and technologically that we're not getting
in this game because of the power outage.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because everything has got to be fair on both sides.
Like you've heard that so many times. Hey, if a
head coach to quarterback headset goes out on one sideline,
the other sideline is not allowed to use it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So you've heard that. But like all of the different
things where, you know, no iPads, there's no scoreboard on
in the stadium. They're keeping track. You know, players can't
run for a touchdown and look up at the scoreboard
and see who's running behind them. Like all of these things.
I mean, it's taking you back to what college football
was like in the 80s and 90s. But quite honestly, like,
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you know, we always say that baseball is the one
sport that if you go back to the early parts
of the 20th century, right, you go watch a you know,
a World Series from the 1910s, right? You go watch the,
you know, the Tigers and the Brooklyn Americans, whatever you
want to go watch, right? You go see the Giants
and the Tigers or the Yankees. The game looks very
similar to now, right? Like, I mean, 2026, yeah, the
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game looks pretty similar. But every other sport, you want
to go back in time and go, oh, my goodness,
how it's changed. But really, if you wanted to go
back and look at an NFL game or a college
football game, the 80s is a little bit too far
back to go because the game has really changed because
of the reliance on quarterbacks. You want to go back
to the 90s and put a game in the 90s
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to now, you're not going to notice a lot of differences.
And not just in the broadcast level of the game,
but the game in the 90s to now is very,
very similar. You've not seen the generational changes in the
game of football that we've gotten from, say, the 40s
to the 70s or the 70s to the 2000s. You
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go back and look at a game from the 90s,
it's pretty similar to what we see now.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, it's it. I mean, we talk about, you know,
the running back is being utilized again. But we the
dump off passes that I guess we look at Drew Brees.
Go back to the 49ers offense for that. But when
we look at the gameplay as a whole.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
A little less violent.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We've taken out some of those big hits over the
middle and we don't get jacked up segments anymore. But
other than that. You know, the game gameplay is.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
There for you. So we'll keep you updated on SMU
Florida State. Again, just starting the third quarter, 19th ranked
Mustangs up 17-10 over Florida State. So with college football
enjoying the very end of their, we're running unopposed popularity
until we get to NFL preview and the first game
of the year on Wednesday. A very interesting story today
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coming out of North Carolina where Bill Belichick met the
media and and spoke for the first time after reports
that the university is investigating all sorts of mismanagement and
issues with the football team. Going back to Michael Lombardi
residing as the school's general manager, the scope of the
investigation there has widened out. It now includes attorneys reaching
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out to North Carolina staffers, coaches, wives, girlfriends. They're looking
at drug usage among the coaching staff. Were drugs used?
Given to players, we're looking at affairs between the coaching
staff and the football recruiting office. There's a lot of
craziness happening right now, and all of it's going to
be about the compliance level at North Carolina. Now, Belichick
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speaking about this for the first time because after playing
the opening game of the season in Dublin, North Carolina
had some time off. Now, here's Belichick today, asked about
the controversy and basically saying, hey, we're on to East
Tennessee State. Morning, Bill.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I understand you can't talk about the investigation, but why
do you think questions are being asked by investigators about
sex and drug use within the program?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Talk to them. Your GM steps down amid the investigation.
Your son's on medical leave amid questions from investigators about drugs.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Pat, I understand.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
We're going to keep asking those questions. I can't speak
about that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's already been.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
The question then would just be, what indications do we
have based on the last year and everything that's been
reported that you have control of this program? I don't
think it's... If you're around here every day, I think
it's it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, I missed the Bill... Two things. I missed the
Bill Belichick cheek... You know, that he liked when he
gets a question he doesn't want to answer. And how
much do you think he self-edited? He really, I swear
to God, he was going to say it's already been addressed.
And he said, no, I can't say that again. I'm
going to say something different. He goes, it's already been,
you know, we've already talked about this. He was going
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to say it's already been addressed. He was so going
to say that. I was 100% going to have it.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The drinking game. So if you were playing Bill Belichick bingo,
you did not get the square.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, I told you what we're going to get. Belichick
wins a football game and suddenly now, yeah, I'm not
going to talk about stuff. Not going to talk about stuff.
We mentioned this last week. I don't know if Belichick
makes it the entire season. Doesn't matter how many games
he wins. These are bad stories. This is the university
investigating itself. This is not college football investigating. It's a
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big deal that the school is looking into it because
if you have a situation where where your head coach
is really powerful and your team is winning and you're
keeping the machine going, this is not something that gets oxygen.
This might not be something that the school even looks into.
But the fact that the school is looking into this
and it's become so public and Michael Lombardi has had
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to resign, this should tell you that Belichick is not
surviving this. When the school is looking into it, The
school is looking into it. Bill Belichick is not more
important than the program. We're not protecting him. We don't
have to protect what he's got. It's not like we
have a program here that's been to the playoff the
last four years. We don't have this coach. We don't
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keep it going. He's figured out NIL, the transfer portal,
all of this. The fact that the university is investigating
and it's become so public. This tells you how much
trouble Belichick is in, and it's only a matter of time.
Tell me the last time that a head coach survived,
not even NCAA, when the school was looking into, hey,
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we're investigating this, not just a cursory, yeah, I want
you to know we have something. No, this is a
big investigation. Coaches don't survive this, man. It doesn't seem
like the school like Bill Belichick has the juice, has
the cachet to survive this because of where the story
is at already. I mean, I don't know. Does he
make it to the end of October? Does he? How
long does this probe seem to take? Like if this
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is a probe that takes the next month, maybe he
makes it a month. Does it take, you know, three months?
Does it take a year like Pablo Torre and Kawhi
Leonard and fake trees? But whenever this thing ends, that's
when it's going to end for Belichick.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, it's interesting. You know, just the scope of the
investigation keeps growing. We obviously know North Carolina for many years,
you had fraudulent classes. That was a whole thing back
when we really talked about the sanctity of the student
athlete experience. But all of that to say Belichick answers
at the end, if you were around here every day,
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you'd see who's in charge. So he just raised his
hand going, it all falls on me. Like he didn't,
He could have ducked, could have said, you know, hey,
I'm in charge of football. But you basically get to
the idea of culture and what's allowed to persist. We've
seen many a college coach, basketball and football, have to
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resign or get fired based on the finding of an investigation.
And certainly the school is going to do it first,
although I would leave it to the NCAA because I
don't think they have enough manpower to actually do anything
in the next couple of years. So by the time
they'd actually come to a conclusion, he'd be retired.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah. I mean, look, if he lose, this is the
last job he'll ever have.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Like if he has to step down, that's it. No
one's hiring me after this. Like, OK, you flamed out
of the NFL. You all of a sudden lost your
fastball after you lost Tom Brady. You couldn't get along
with anybody. You couldn't get the Falcons head coaching job
when you had two interviews before Raheem Morris was even
brought in once. The NFL turned their back on you.
You go to North Carolina, and here's a scandal involving drugs.
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Your kid is allegedly involved. There's a sex scandal.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You're done. That's the thing. I'm seeing Bill Belichick walking
away from his Hall of Fame coaching career in disgrace. Like,
that's how it's– I don't see their– how is this
going to end? Are they going to go on a
big run and win nine games in a row? And
at the end of this, it's going to be, hey, well,
we're 9-0. Maybe we have to do things a little
bit differently because, you know, maybe we've got to have
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coaches back on this. Like, I don't see how that's happening.
I don't see how this ends well for Belichick. Like,
there's not going to be any good outcomes.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
His contract stipulates that he, quote– must promote an atmosphere
of compliance, unquote, and all sorts of things of that nature.
A lot of language as related to rules and regulations.
Belichick saying we want to run the program in the
best way, and if there's things we need to correct it,
obviously we'll do them. Questions about his son. Well, it's
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a medical issue, so he's able to push that aside.
But it's Yeah, once it's in the legalese, I mean,
there's only so much he's going to be able to say,
but certainly the scope of this keeps getting bigger and bigger,
and the fact that Lombardi's already resigned doesn't bode well
for the ending. Yeah, I mean, look, if he goes
on some crazy run, because I want to throw it
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out there that, look, we haven't seen the games being played.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
They've already won one game against a team they were
a heavy underdog to. They should win their next game, right?
It's East Tennessee State. We have no idea if Clemson
is absolutely any good. Then things get a little bit tougher.
You have Notre Dame. You're at Duke. You have Miami
and Louisville, their top 25 teams. But could things change?
If all of a sudden, six weeks from now, North
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Carolina is 6-0, and they've upset Notre Dame, and they've
beaten Duke, and they're getting ready for a big showdown
against Miami on Halloween... Yeah, there's always that possibility, but
just the fact this is where we are right now,
I don't know how it gets better. I really, I mean,
I don't know whether he resigns or whether it's himself. Like,
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I don't know how this gets better outside of a
crazy 6-7-0 start, but... You can't bury the story. You've
already gotten so public with it. It's not like, hey,
we keep a lid on this, and if we win,
we can make it go away. This is, we're already
public with it, which tells you we've already had it
with the Bill Belichick regime here at North Carolina. Because
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if they wanted to throw out there the possibility that, hey,
he wins a bunch of games, then they would try
to keep this under wraps as much as they can.
But this got public right away. Right away.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Asked if he'd spoken to Lombardi about or since the resignation,
he said he would keep, quote, private conversations private.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Telling you, man, he won one game. I'm back to
being the old Belichick. I'm back to telling you, man.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, I mean, I know you can't go into great details,
but you confirm or deny. Just, yeah, talk to him.
Maybe I chewed him out. Whatever you got to say. But,
you know, talking to the players thinks he's got a good– Whatever.
For lack of a better term, the term vibe is
used a lot. Thinks he's got a pretty good thing
going there. They had that win and then a bye week.
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And then I think they play two games and then
I think they have another bye week or something like that.
But either way, it's it's curious, right? Because you just
have so many. pretty heady allegations going on here, right?
They're not small things or even like we used to say, well,
is this guy even enrolled in school? Like you'd kill
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for one of those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Like what do you got? You might have had recruiting
people having sex with people, and then you might have
one of your assistants sharing drugs and using.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Like what are we doing here? Yeah, yeah, I don't
want that.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
This is straight out of that show that ESPN had
banned all those years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, Playmakers. Yeah, right? No, you can't run that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's all the storylines right here.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, I feel like all that's left is the fall. And,
you know, I think it's from Richard III about, you fool,
when the fall is all that left, it matters greatly. Yeah,
I did go Shakespeare.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well done.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Because I'm like that. Well played. But I feel like
that's what– how does Belichick fall? How does this end?
We know what's going to happen. It's just how is
this managed from here on out? That's where we're at
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Mike Harmon. Two days away. It is NFL Eve Eve.
We're almost there. We are almost there. I'll give you
my fantasy best bet for week one. You ready for this?
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Hit me. Not my fantasy best bet for week one.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think I know where you're going to go.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it.
And you're going to go wait. Oh, now I get it.
Now I get it.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Your sure thing, fantasy-wise, week one. Steelers defense. Steelers defense
week one.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Sounds about right. I mean, Atlanta's offensive line is pretty good.
Their quarterback is not.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So opportunity doth knock. That is for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah. Tua Tungabailoa named the starting quarterback for the Falcons
at least week one.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
One.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Right. And we talked about this, that as soon as
Michael Penix Jr. is healthy, he's going to start right
to a basically lost a quarterback competition to himself. This preseason,
he's only starting because Penix isn't healthy. The fact that
we already know that Penix is going to be inactive
for week one tells you everything you need to know, right?
As soon as he is healthy, he's taking this job.
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Barring Tua, again, like I said, barring North Carolina going 7-0,
not happening. Barring Tua, all of a sudden running with
this offense, not happening. So as soon as Penix Jr.
is healthy. But really, it's not like Pennix is great either.
They brought in Tua because Pennix Jr. stunk, right? Like,
nothing is going to stop the Atlanta Falcons for competing
(20:33):
for the number one overall pick in the draft next year. Like, Atlanta,
I don't think people understand that, yes, the teams that
are normally there, the Jets, they'll probably be there, right?
The Browns, they'll probably be there, right? You look at
other teams. Um, the dolphins, we know they're going to
be there. They are just telling you, we will be
there for the first pick. We, with everything we're doing
with that, but you got to throw the Falcons in
(20:53):
because I know it's weird to team with Bajon Robinson
and how good he is, but wow. Like you really
have absolutely nothing at quarterback and not, and it's not
even a great division. The NFC South is there. I
think the Saints are going to wind up winning the division.
But this is an easy division, and still, I don't
know how they're going to put points on the board.
The 2-0 got off to such an incredibly bad start.
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I didn't think it was possible to have a really
bad preseason. It's almost built in for quarterbacks now, Mike,
that you're not going to have a bad preseason. Because
there's no way. Because, yes, you will be in some...
controlled scrimmages with other teams and joint practices, but you're
really not going to play in the games. It's really
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hard to have a bad preseason as a quarterback. And
I mean really bad. I don't mean, oh, well, maybe
you're not ready. Like a Fernando Mendoza had a really
good week one, but then played in the next two
games and showed that he's still got a bit of
a ways to go. Like, okay, but that's not the
awful preseason where you're talking about fumbles and sacks and
throwing the football and your footwork is bad. Like, it's
really hard to have a bad preseason. And Tua may
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have had the worst preseason out of anybody. And he's
going to go in and start for the Falcons week one.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, you can get a bad throw here and there.
And we certainly chronicled several of the most prominent players,
including Fernando Mendoza and some of the other quarterbacks that
had their missteps. But there was nothing redeemable and redeeming
of anything that Tua put on film. to the point
where you had Michael Penix, right, that shot of him
(22:27):
just kind of pointing and shrugging his shoulders like, I
don't know, what do we got? So that's where you are.
I mean, you do have some talented players around him. So,
I mean, you take some solace there that a couple
of little– dump offs to the flat with B. John
Robinson and behind a good offensive line. You can maybe
get a jailbreak. Maybe you can catch your guy, Drake London,
(22:50):
on a little sluggo route or something. But otherwise, man,
it's tough there because they're going to tee off on him.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, it's it's going to be very, very difficult. I'm
telling you, man, it's going to be really tough. It's
going to be they're going to be a tough watch.
It's going to be tough sledding, and it's going to
be very apparent early on, like, okay, you're going to
get to the end of September and go, yeah, there's
no light at the end of the tunnel for these teams.
Atlanta's going to be right there.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Would you believe the Steelers rank only at the number
nine position, according to all the experts for this week
on FantasyPros.com?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
If I could have any defense, well, okay, well, you
always got to look, okay, where are the Browns playing? Okay,
I get that. But really, like, Steelers should be, like,
your second best pick. Like, really, that should be your
second choice here.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, I got to go look and see if there's
any other movement going on here. Come on now.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I mean, the Jaguars, because they're playing Cleveland, right? Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, the Jaguars are first. Chargers, Rams, Steelers are actually
fourth under the different metric. Man, that's crazy. But there
you go.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Exit out by the Fresca, exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Okay, so,
you know, you brought this up at the beginning of
the show. And, you know, obviously the Michigan, Western Michigan
Hail Mary is still the biggest topic in all of
college football. And should it have been allowed? Should another
second have been put on the board? And we told
you our thoughts on that last hour and told you
the two big things to think about that probably haven't
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heard in the last 48 hours. Now, two other different things, right,
for this. One thing is that you said, oh, Western
Michigan had done this, they had done this. I started
thinking about the Hail Mary itself. And the thing is, like,
if you're looking for a could Western Michigan, what could
they have done on that play? Right. Here's a Hail
Mary that gets completed. You don't really see that that often. Right.
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You have the Hail Mary completed and you got a
lot of play to the final whistle, play to the
final whistle. OK. And I understand that. But it's not
like they didn't have the right number of guys down there.
The first Hail Mary that was out of the end zone.
They had six players in the end zone. They were
all around the ball. Michigan was not coming down with it.
But that second Hail Mary that Bryce Underwood realized, oh,
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I have to throw it here. Oh, okay, I can't
throw it out of the end zone. The second Hail Mary,
the one thing I can say for Western Michigan is
that they didn't really seem to have the sense of
urgency to defend the Hail Mary that they had the
first time. Part of it might be we were celebrating,
we had to go back on the field, but that's football, right?
Michigan went out next year, right? You got to go
out there and do it. But just watching the play
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And and and and saying, boy, they all got out jumped. Right.
Like they all got it. They had a Trump. They
had trouble getting to the spot where the Hail Mary was.
They did a good job of sealing.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You look at the first Hail Mary and everybody's in
the end zone, all standing next to each other. The
second Hail Mary, while the ball's coming down, you see
Western Michigan's defenders are still trying to get to the
spot where the ball is. and they're trying to get
to where they can get back and look at the ball.
So they did a horrible job actually getting there. I
don't know if they thought that, hey, Michigan's going to
try a different play, like we're going to try some
sort of lateral, and that's why they didn't get back,
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but They just threw a Hail Mary. They're going to
throw it again, and they didn't get there. And the receiver,
who's a big-bodied tight end, maybe the next great tight
end out of Michigan, he's able to get there, get up,
and have the aggressiveness to get up over everybody and
make the play. And that's the key to Hail Marys
is that you want to know why Hail Marys happen.
Hail Marys are flukes, but I'll tell you one rule
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is that if both sides are aggressive, you're not catching
the ball because they're not calling pass interference offensively. Defenders
can do whatever they want. They're not going to call P.I.
Unless you grab the guy's helmet and rip it off
his head and throw it into the stands, you're not
going to... So as long as you are aggressive on
the Hail Mary, it's going to fall incomplete. But I
did not see any aggressiveness, not near to what was
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on the play before. So if you're looking to say, hey,
what could Western Michigan have done? They were not nearly
as aggressive, nor were they around the ball for that
second Hail Mary, and that's why the pass went the
way it did. Yeah, I mean, you look at.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
The first one's sailing towards the end zone, so you've
got a natural defender back there as well, so everything's compressed.
This one, he throws it short, high arc, and the
receivers do a pretty good job of sealing it to
where Buchanan doesn't really get contested. He high points the ball,
but there's nobody there to fight him. So, yeah, as
you say, getting to the spot, closing in on where
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the ball kind of comes down, and now it begets
that great question of how much did that save Underwood?
How much longer is it before we see? When we
have Notre Dame and Michigan, is it car versus car?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh, dude, look, I know that he got the, that
Whittingham gave him the tepid vote of confidence that he's
our quarterback this week. Look, and that's the other part
of this is that Michigan was awful. Again, as I say,
as the only person who didn't either live in the
state of Michigan or go there, I watched the whole game, right?
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I'm the only one that watched the whole game. I'm
the only one.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
That was my third screen experience.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm the only one to watch the whole game. Michigan
was awful. They got dominated by Western Michigan. I mean,
when Western Michigan, you could say, well, defense, no, the
defense played well and you're asked to do a lot,
but come on, man, you can't give up a 13
minute drive to Western Michigan at home. Michigan is not good.
I guarantee you, Winningham is thinking, I should have just retired.
But number one, Bryce Underwood is the same guy he
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was last year. First drive of the game, oh, what
a different guy he is. He's so much more confident.
Look at him. His footwork is great. Then what did
you get the rest of the game? Boy, his footwork
stinks on this one. His footwork is bad here. I
don't know what he's looking at here. He's locked into
the receiver. He is the same quarterback he was last year.
Bryce Underwood looks the part. He's got all the physical skills.
He's got the big arm, the mobility skills. but you've
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got to be able to make plays, and he just can't.
He's the same guy he was a year ago. If
he doesn't complete that Hail Mary, it's probably a new quarterback,
maybe for Oklahoma, and it's Tommy Carr, but wow, he
is just not good. The $ 11 million they spent on him, wow,
that's going to be something Michigan fans think about every
single day because the guy, he's the same guy he
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was last year when he was very underwhelming. And I
don't know what to do. I mean, really, he's a guy,
he looks the part, he's got all the skills, but
now you're starting off your second year, and yes, second
new coaching staff, but you're still the starting quarterback, and
look what's going on, right? I mean, if I had
to say the Bryce Underwood era, it's going to end
at some point during this season for Michigan.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, that was a tough Whittingham response. Obviously, he's... feeling
it coming out of all of the allegations and everything
for what came down with those Hail Mary throws. So
that's part of his mind. The other is, all right,
I have the other 60 minutes, because let's call it
60 minutes plus a throw, that I have to figure
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out how to best navigate. Because the schedule is a
pain in the ass. There's no question. Michigan plays a
tough slate as you go through. And the offense was,
you were a 28-point favorite. Let's just put it that way.
Let's put it in the basest of terms. And yes,
you escaped. On the money line, they were minus 5,000.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It's a 98%. Cause that's, that's really where I'd be
curious what the, the swing of money was there, how
much Western Michigan backers lost. And you know, the Michigan
folks got that just said, Hey, put 20 on the
home team, how much that added up to. But it's
that curiosity of how long at least, like you're not
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beholden to him. Yeah, you retained him and you recruited
to keep him, assuming there were people trying to poach him.
But either way, for Whittingham, you left the comfort of
a place you've known for 30 plus years. And week one,
you have to answer a lot of questions about escaping
against Western Michigan and the fact that your quarterback was
no good. That is not the way to start a tenure.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
No, I guarantee you, he's sitting there watching that Hail Mary.
He's going, I could have retired. I could have walked away.
Like in the movies where the cop goes, I got
three more days. Here's a picture of my boat. You know,
I'm leaving. I could have been on the Keys in
Florida right now.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Just sitting there thinking.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Going to hang out with Red. Thinking back to the
21 years I spent at Utah, I could have done that.
Look what I did here. I came here like he
didn't even look. He didn't even look happy. No, he
did not relieved at all.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Like I look like he'd been punched.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh, I mean, really like like we got to understand
Michigan might be really bad like that. That's one thing
that people understand is that, yeah, well, OK, Michigan Chad there.
they might be really bad because I didn't see a
lot of playmakers. I didn't say it's not the same defense.
They normally have offense. They struggle to get the, now
maybe a new quarterback is going to get the football
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to their playmakers a little bit better. But I mean,
I think we have to understand that maybe Michigan might
just be a really bad football team. Just think about that.
Fox sports radio, the Jason Smith show with my best friend,
Mike Harmon. We got more football on the way, but
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big news today, and this is going to change the
rest of the season for Major League Baseball. Out since
May 31st. Aaron Judge has been activated by the New
York Yankees. He will return against the Colorado Rockies, which
if you're going to return against anybody, that's the team
to return against. Outside, I'm going to hit out of hand,
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and I'm just going to throw it up and swing.
You want to return against the Rockies. He's been out
more than three months because of a fractured rib. The
Yankees are going to win the AL East. They're four
games back, but they have plenty of time. They have
three and a half weeks left. in which to overtake
the Rays. As bad as you think things have been
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for the Yankees, they're still 20 games over. 500. Everything
is there for them. They had a great deadline. They
have the starting pitching. Obviously, you need the best hitter
in the American League back. You need that guy. But
now that Aaron Judge is back in a wide-open year,
I'm telling you, the American League just got way less
wide-open The Yankees have the best team, and I expect
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them to be in the World Series. I expect they
should take off like a rocket now with Aaron Judge
back because he has that kind of impact on the team.
As you've seen, when did the Yankees offense start going? Well,
one guy's out. Yeah, that's how it goes sometimes when
it's a guy like Aaron Judge or Juan Soto or
Bryce Harper or Shohei Otani. That's how it goes. One
guy affects way more than just, well, he's one spot
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in the lineup. Aaron Judge coming back as long as
he is healthy and he is back to being Aaron
Judge because you need him to be Aaron Judge. There's
no reason why. He's been out a long time. Yankees
win the AL East. They'll go to the World Series.
They're that good, and he means that much to this
team that I think people are sleeping on the fact
that he's coming back to the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I dig the fact that you got Bryce Harper into
that list because it wasn't very long ago you would
not have acknowledged anything he did. to the positive. You
would have made a Beaver reference. You would have demeaned him.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
But his teammates love him. We know they get along well.
He's not someone who is as good as he thinks
he is, but he's still not even the big engine
on the team anymore. Kyle Schwarber's been a better.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Hitter than him for three years now.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
He's been a better hitter. But Harper's presence, what he
means to everybody else in the lineup, yes. Harper is
still there. He's still that kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
The machine. Dodgers get plus 185. brewers and yankees at
plus 800 followed by the rays braves the aforementioned phillies
you go to the red socks at plus 1400 and
so on so yeah it's you know i it's even
above the fold on my screen the white socks 22
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to 1 how about that uh but yeah but for
the yankees i mean we watched it over the course
of the year right they've navigated injury after injury and
you can talk about payrolls yeah there's you know, five
teams or six teams and then everybody else. But you
get Aaron Judge back and we're assuming they're not clearing
him unless he's 100, right?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's been that long. Right, but that's why I have
confidence in that because he was cleared for baseball activities
like two and a half weeks ago. So it's not
like he got cleared. He's going to play a couple
of simulated games. He's back in the lineup. They knew, hey,
we're okay. We're afloat here. We're a 500-ish team without him.
We're okay. we'll bring him back when he's good and
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healthy and rested and ready to go. And he's got
a big break. So I have no doubt that he
is healthy. I have no, from this injury, I have
no doubt he's a hundred percent healthy.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
No, it's, it's, we're looking, we're getting to winning time, right?
I mean, we're into September. Now it's the stretch run.
We're talking about the wild cards, trying to fend off
whatever advantage your favorite team may have, or you've moved
on to football season. If you're done with it. So
I'm sorry, buddy. I don't know what you're doing over there.
Syracuse season. Michigan's still 1-0. We'll be fine. If Steve
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Vangeli's the quarterback for 12 games, we'll be just fine.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean, you got to win. We'll be just fine.
Come on, man.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Want to buy some Steve Vangeli rookie cards?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
We're fine. Steve, peanut butter and jelly. Yes, 100%. I
want one of those rookie cards.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Maybe they'll do one of those Garbage Pail Kids send-ups
of Vangeli like that.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So just tomorrow to set you up for Aaron Judge,
his first at bat will be against Gabriel Hughes, who
is 0-6 with an ERA of 6.5 this season. Oh, good.
So I'm expecting good things from Aaron Judge in his
first at bat. I'm expecting good things from the entire
Yankee team tomorrow at home against the Rockies pitching.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Odds for Judge to homer on Tuesday. He'll be the
guy in your beat the streak, no question.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Exit outbound of Fresca. Exit Swollen Dome. Coming up next,
outside of Michigan, the other big story this weekend at
college football.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
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your podcasts. You'll find today's full show and a best-of
version posted right after we get off the air. So
as you heard Steve DeSager very loquaciously tell you, yes,
we are only at halftime for the college football game
of the day, Labor Day night. SMU leads Florida State
17-10 at halftime. An hour and 40-minute delay because of
(01:16):
a power outage.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Smoke signals have been employed.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
As you have seen, there have been a lot of
things going on in this game that... Normally, we don't
get now. Can't use iPads. No, no, no, no, no.
Communication between the sideline and the players, very, very, very limited, right?
You're not getting anything that you normally get with a
normal college football, high-level college football game. The lights aren't...
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There's not as many lights as there normally are. You
can see it looks like a little bit of mood lighting, but...
It does look like it is bright enough for the players.
You know, what I've seen so far, I've not seen
anything where, hey, they're not making plays because of the lights,
because of of situation so at least there's that but
it's uh you know like we said to start the
show time travel is possible hey what was college football
(02:02):
like in the 80s and 90s there was a lot like.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
This get ourselves a little bit of friday night lights
we don't have full coverage we got whatever we can
get i mean i can't tell you the number of
times that that my daughter played at fields and all
of a sudden because someone forgot to i don't know
the time change hey the lights went off can we
get them back on maybe We'll see.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Just contacted a guy to see if he can get
them back on. And meanwhile, we're sitting around for 45 minutes,
staring at each other, waiting for a second half to begin.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
They can't get them turned back on. Hopefully we're a
little better here.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well, there was one day we play. I was coaching and, and,
The lights went off because they were supposed to go
off at 8 o'clock, and they thought the game would
be over by then. And they went off at 8,
but we started late, and it was halftime, and all
the players were like, oh, this is it. And I
turned to my assistant coach. I said, yeah, I'm okay
with them keeping the power off because I think we're
running out of gas. We're going to lose this game.
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I'll take the 1-1 tie. We'll take the draw. I
think they're going to run us up and down the
field the second half. And sure enough, they did. And
they won 3-1. And I was like, yep, I would
have easily taken that tie. Got home with the tie
right there. How long did you delay?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Hey. Did you go to the rule book?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
How long can a delay happen before I can call?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
We were actually about 10 minutes away from calling it.
We were about 10 minutes away. And I'm like, okay. Oh,
we got the lights back on. I'm like, okay. All right,
let's go. Let's get ready to go, and let's get
back out there. I was like, yeah, no, we're going
to lose this game. We were just running out of
gas against them, and they were moving the ball. They
were going across the field. They were switching the field,
and I could tell we were having a tough time
keeping up, and I just said, yeah, yeah, we're going
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to lose this game in the second half, and that's
what I was saying. I should have just said, that's it.
It's over. All the lights are out. Everybody go home.
Everybody go home.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
1-1.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
1-1 is the final. That's it. It's over. It's over, everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You were the ringleader in all those college classes when
a professor was late, weren't you?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Oh, one more minute. We can leave.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, there was always the one person right at, uh,
at class. I was like, How long are you legally
supposed to wait until you leave? And everybody would say
whatever they want to say. It's a minute. It's a
minute after. It's supposed to start at 8 o'clock. If
it's 8.01, professor's not here. We can go. It's like,
go whenever you want to. The professor, he's either going
to show up or he's not. He's going to care
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or he's not. Or you're not. And you think he's
going to show up and say, hey, everybody, just leave. No,
of course. Professors, they want to work. They want to
do things. It's not like. You know, it's not like
where they could say, hey, let's just hang out and
I'll get on my phone. No, they're going to teach.
So you stay as long as you want. But understand,
we could wind up having class. It's going to go
that way.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Good job. It is. Yeah, it is fun because it's
a really weird thing. Like, because I was thinking about
this a lot the last hour that, OK, there's a
lot of things electronically and technologically that we're not getting
in this game because of the power outage.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because everything has got to be fair on both sides.
Like you've heard that so many times. Hey, if a
head coach to quarterback headset goes out on one sideline,
the other sideline is not allowed to use it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So you've heard that. But like all of the different
things where, you know, no iPads, there's no scoreboard on
in the stadium. They're keeping track. You know, players can't
run for a touchdown and look up at the scoreboard
and see who's running behind them. Like all of these things.
I mean, it's taking you back to what college football
was like in the 80s and 90s. But quite honestly, like,
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you know, we always say that baseball is the one
sport that if you go back to the early parts
of the 20th century, right, you go watch a you know,
a World Series from the 1910s, right? You go watch the,
you know, the Tigers and the Brooklyn Americans, whatever you
want to go watch, right? You go see the Giants
and the Tigers or the Yankees. The game looks very
similar to now, right? Like, I mean, 2026, yeah, the
(05:43):
game looks pretty similar. But every other sport, you want
to go back in time and go, oh, my goodness,
how it's changed. But really, if you wanted to go
back and look at an NFL game or a college
football game, the 80s is a little bit too far
back to go because the game has really changed because
of the reliance on quarterbacks. You want to go back
to the 90s and put a game in the 90s
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to now, you're not going to notice a lot of differences.
And not just in the broadcast level of the game,
but the game in the 90s to now is very,
very similar. You've not seen the generational changes in the
game of football that we've gotten from, say, the 40s
to the 70s or the 70s to the 2000s. You
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go back and look at a game from the 90s,
it's pretty similar to what we see now.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, it's it. I mean, we talk about, you know,
the running back is being utilized again. But we the
dump off passes that I guess we look at Drew Brees.
Go back to the 49ers offense for that. But when
we look at the gameplay as a whole.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
A little less violent.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We've taken out some of those big hits over the
middle and we don't get jacked up segments anymore. But
other than that. You know, the game gameplay is.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
There for you. So we'll keep you updated on SMU
Florida State. Again, just starting the third quarter, 19th ranked
Mustangs up 17-10 over Florida State. So with college football
enjoying the very end of their, we're running unopposed popularity
until we get to NFL preview and the first game
of the year on Wednesday. A very interesting story today
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coming out of North Carolina where Bill Belichick met the
media and and spoke for the first time after reports
that the university is investigating all sorts of mismanagement and
issues with the football team. Going back to Michael Lombardi
residing as the school's general manager, the scope of the
investigation there has widened out. It now includes attorneys reaching
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out to North Carolina staffers, coaches, wives, girlfriends. They're looking
at drug usage among the coaching staff. Were drugs used?
Given to players, we're looking at affairs between the coaching
staff and the football recruiting office. There's a lot of
craziness happening right now, and all of it's going to
be about the compliance level at North Carolina. Now, Belichick
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speaking about this for the first time because after playing
the opening game of the season in Dublin, North Carolina
had some time off. Now, here's Belichick today, asked about
the controversy and basically saying, hey, we're on to East
Tennessee State. Morning, Bill.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I understand you can't talk about the investigation, but why
do you think questions are being asked by investigators about
sex and drug use within the program?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Talk to them. Your GM steps down amid the investigation.
Your son's on medical leave amid questions from investigators about drugs.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Pat, I understand.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
We're going to keep asking those questions. I can't speak
about that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's already been.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
The question then would just be, what indications do we
have based on the last year and everything that's been
reported that you have control of this program? I don't
think it's... If you're around here every day, I think
it's it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, I missed the Bill... Two things. I missed the
Bill Belichick cheek... You know, that he liked when he
gets a question he doesn't want to answer. And how
much do you think he self-edited? He really, I swear
to God, he was going to say it's already been addressed.
And he said, no, I can't say that again. I'm
going to say something different. He goes, it's already been,
you know, we've already talked about this. He was going
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to say it's already been addressed. He was so going
to say that. I was 100% going to have it.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The drinking game. So if you were playing Bill Belichick bingo,
you did not get the square.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, I told you what we're going to get. Belichick
wins a football game and suddenly now, yeah, I'm not
going to talk about stuff. Not going to talk about stuff.
We mentioned this last week. I don't know if Belichick
makes it the entire season. Doesn't matter how many games
he wins. These are bad stories. This is the university
investigating itself. This is not college football investigating. It's a
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big deal that the school is looking into it because
if you have a situation where where your head coach
is really powerful and your team is winning and you're
keeping the machine going, this is not something that gets oxygen.
This might not be something that the school even looks into.
But the fact that the school is looking into this
and it's become so public and Michael Lombardi has had
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to resign, this should tell you that Belichick is not
surviving this. When the school is looking into it, The
school is looking into it. Bill Belichick is not more
important than the program. We're not protecting him. We don't
have to protect what he's got. It's not like we
have a program here that's been to the playoff the
last four years. We don't have this coach. We don't
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keep it going. He's figured out NIL, the transfer portal,
all of this. The fact that the university is investigating
and it's become so public. This tells you how much
trouble Belichick is in, and it's only a matter of time.
Tell me the last time that a head coach survived,
not even NCAA, when the school was looking into, hey,
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we're investigating this, not just a cursory, yeah, I want
you to know we have something. No, this is a
big investigation. Coaches don't survive this, man. It doesn't seem
like the school like Bill Belichick has the juice, has
the cachet to survive this because of where the story
is at already. I mean, I don't know. Does he
make it to the end of October? Does he? How
long does this probe seem to take? Like if this
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is a probe that takes the next month, maybe he
makes it a month. Does it take, you know, three months?
Does it take a year like Pablo Torre and Kawhi
Leonard and fake trees? But whenever this thing ends, that's
when it's going to end for Belichick.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, it's interesting. You know, just the scope of the
investigation keeps growing. We obviously know North Carolina for many years,
you had fraudulent classes. That was a whole thing back
when we really talked about the sanctity of the student
athlete experience. But all of that to say Belichick answers
at the end, if you were around here every day,
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you'd see who's in charge. So he just raised his
hand going, it all falls on me. Like he didn't,
He could have ducked, could have said, you know, hey,
I'm in charge of football. But you basically get to
the idea of culture and what's allowed to persist. We've
seen many a college coach, basketball and football, have to
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resign or get fired based on the finding of an investigation.
And certainly the school is going to do it first,
although I would leave it to the NCAA because I
don't think they have enough manpower to actually do anything
in the next couple of years. So by the time
they'd actually come to a conclusion, he'd be retired.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah. I mean, look, if he lose, this is the
last job he'll ever have.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Like if he has to step down, that's it. No
one's hiring me after this. Like, OK, you flamed out
of the NFL. You all of a sudden lost your
fastball after you lost Tom Brady. You couldn't get along
with anybody. You couldn't get the Falcons head coaching job
when you had two interviews before Raheem Morris was even
brought in once. The NFL turned their back on you.
You go to North Carolina, and here's a scandal involving drugs.
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Your kid is allegedly involved. There's a sex scandal.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You're done. That's the thing. I'm seeing Bill Belichick walking
away from his Hall of Fame coaching career in disgrace. Like,
that's how it's– I don't see their– how is this
going to end? Are they going to go on a
big run and win nine games in a row? And
at the end of this, it's going to be, hey, well,
we're 9-0. Maybe we have to do things a little
bit differently because, you know, maybe we've got to have
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coaches back on this. Like, I don't see how that's happening.
I don't see how this ends well for Belichick. Like,
there's not going to be any good outcomes.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
His contract stipulates that he, quote– must promote an atmosphere
of compliance, unquote, and all sorts of things of that nature.
A lot of language as related to rules and regulations.
Belichick saying we want to run the program in the
best way, and if there's things we need to correct it,
obviously we'll do them. Questions about his son. Well, it's
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a medical issue, so he's able to push that aside.
But it's Yeah, once it's in the legalese, I mean,
there's only so much he's going to be able to say,
but certainly the scope of this keeps getting bigger and bigger,
and the fact that Lombardi's already resigned doesn't bode well
for the ending. Yeah, I mean, look, if he goes
on some crazy run, because I want to throw it
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out there that, look, we haven't seen the games being played.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
They've already won one game against a team they were
a heavy underdog to. They should win their next game, right?
It's East Tennessee State. We have no idea if Clemson
is absolutely any good. Then things get a little bit tougher.
You have Notre Dame. You're at Duke. You have Miami
and Louisville, their top 25 teams. But could things change?
If all of a sudden, six weeks from now, North
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Carolina is 6-0, and they've upset Notre Dame, and they've
beaten Duke, and they're getting ready for a big showdown
against Miami on Halloween... Yeah, there's always that possibility, but
just the fact this is where we are right now,
I don't know how it gets better. I really, I mean,
I don't know whether he resigns or whether it's himself. Like,
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I don't know how this gets better outside of a
crazy 6-7-0 start, but... You can't bury the story. You've
already gotten so public with it. It's not like, hey,
we keep a lid on this, and if we win,
we can make it go away. This is, we're already
public with it, which tells you we've already had it
with the Bill Belichick regime here at North Carolina. Because
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if they wanted to throw out there the possibility that, hey,
he wins a bunch of games, then they would try
to keep this under wraps as much as they can.
But this got public right away. Right away.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Asked if he'd spoken to Lombardi about or since the resignation,
he said he would keep, quote, private conversations private.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Telling you, man, he won one game. I'm back to
being the old Belichick. I'm back to telling you, man.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, I mean, I know you can't go into great details,
but you confirm or deny. Just, yeah, talk to him.
Maybe I chewed him out. Whatever you got to say. But,
you know, talking to the players thinks he's got a good– Whatever.
For lack of a better term, the term vibe is
used a lot. Thinks he's got a pretty good thing
going there. They had that win and then a bye week.
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And then I think they play two games and then
I think they have another bye week or something like that.
But either way, it's it's curious, right? Because you just
have so many. pretty heady allegations going on here, right?
They're not small things or even like we used to say, well,
is this guy even enrolled in school? Like you'd kill
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for one of those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Like what do you got? You might have had recruiting
people having sex with people, and then you might have
one of your assistants sharing drugs and using.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Like what are we doing here? Yeah, yeah, I don't
want that.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
This is straight out of that show that ESPN had
banned all those years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, Playmakers. Yeah, right? No, you can't run that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's all the storylines right here.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, I feel like all that's left is the fall. And,
you know, I think it's from Richard III about, you fool,
when the fall is all that left, it matters greatly. Yeah,
I did go Shakespeare.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well done.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Because I'm like that. Well played. But I feel like
that's what– how does Belichick fall? How does this end?
We know what's going to happen. It's just how is
this managed from here on out? That's where we're at
right now. Exit outbound to Fresca, exit Swollen Dome, the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend, Mike Harmon. Coming
up next, we got more from Faith. We have a
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Mike Harmon. Two days away. It is NFL Eve Eve.
We're almost there. We are almost there. I'll give you
my fantasy best bet for week one. You ready for this?
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Hit me. Not my fantasy best bet for week one.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think I know where you're going to go.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it.
And you're going to go wait. Oh, now I get it.
Now I get it.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Your sure thing, fantasy-wise, week one. Steelers defense. Steelers defense
week one.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Sounds about right. I mean, Atlanta's offensive line is pretty good.
Their quarterback is not.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So opportunity doth knock. That is for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah. Tua Tungabailoa named the starting quarterback for the Falcons
at least week one.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
One.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Right. And we talked about this, that as soon as
Michael Penix Jr. is healthy, he's going to start right
to a basically lost a quarterback competition to himself. This preseason,
he's only starting because Penix isn't healthy. The fact that
we already know that Penix is going to be inactive
for week one tells you everything you need to know, right?
As soon as he is healthy, he's taking this job.
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Barring Tua, again, like I said, barring North Carolina going 7-0,
not happening. Barring Tua, all of a sudden running with
this offense, not happening. So as soon as Penix Jr.
is healthy. But really, it's not like Pennix is great either.
They brought in Tua because Pennix Jr. stunk, right? Like,
nothing is going to stop the Atlanta Falcons for competing
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for the number one overall pick in the draft next year. Like, Atlanta,
I don't think people understand that, yes, the teams that
are normally there, the Jets, they'll probably be there, right?
The Browns, they'll probably be there, right? You look at
other teams. Um, the dolphins, we know they're going to
be there. They are just telling you, we will be
there for the first pick. We, with everything we're doing
with that, but you got to throw the Falcons in
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because I know it's weird to team with Bajon Robinson
and how good he is, but wow. Like you really
have absolutely nothing at quarterback and not, and it's not
even a great division. The NFC South is there. I
think the Saints are going to wind up winning the division.
But this is an easy division, and still, I don't
know how they're going to put points on the board.
The 2-0 got off to such an incredibly bad start.
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I didn't think it was possible to have a really
bad preseason. It's almost built in for quarterbacks now, Mike,
that you're not going to have a bad preseason. Because
there's no way. Because, yes, you will be in some...
controlled scrimmages with other teams and joint practices, but you're
really not going to play in the games. It's really
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hard to have a bad preseason as a quarterback. And
I mean really bad. I don't mean, oh, well, maybe
you're not ready. Like a Fernando Mendoza had a really
good week one, but then played in the next two
games and showed that he's still got a bit of
a ways to go. Like, okay, but that's not the
awful preseason where you're talking about fumbles and sacks and
throwing the football and your footwork is bad. Like, it's
really hard to have a bad preseason. And Tua may
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have had the worst preseason out of anybody. And he's
going to go in and start for the Falcons week one.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, you can get a bad throw here and there.
And we certainly chronicled several of the most prominent players,
including Fernando Mendoza and some of the other quarterbacks that
had their missteps. But there was nothing redeemable and redeeming
of anything that Tua put on film. to the point
where you had Michael Penix, right, that shot of him
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just kind of pointing and shrugging his shoulders like, I
don't know, what do we got? So that's where you are.
I mean, you do have some talented players around him. So,
I mean, you take some solace there that a couple
of little– dump offs to the flat with B. John
Robinson and behind a good offensive line. You can maybe
get a jailbreak. Maybe you can catch your guy, Drake London,
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on a little sluggo route or something. But otherwise, man,
it's tough there because they're going to tee off on him.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, it's it's going to be very, very difficult. I'm
telling you, man, it's going to be really tough. It's
going to be they're going to be a tough watch.
It's going to be tough sledding, and it's going to
be very apparent early on, like, okay, you're going to
get to the end of September and go, yeah, there's
no light at the end of the tunnel for these teams.
Atlanta's going to be right there.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Would you believe the Steelers rank only at the number
nine position, according to all the experts for this week
on FantasyPros.com?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
If I could have any defense, well, okay, well, you
always got to look, okay, where are the Browns playing? Okay,
I get that. But really, like, Steelers should be, like,
your second best pick. Like, really, that should be your
second choice here.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, I got to go look and see if there's
any other movement going on here. Come on now.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I mean, the Jaguars, because they're playing Cleveland, right? Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, the Jaguars are first. Chargers, Rams, Steelers are actually
fourth under the different metric. Man, that's crazy. But there
you go.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Exit out by the Fresca, exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Okay, so,
you know, you brought this up at the beginning of
the show. And, you know, obviously the Michigan, Western Michigan
Hail Mary is still the biggest topic in all of
college football. And should it have been allowed? Should another
second have been put on the board? And we told
you our thoughts on that last hour and told you
the two big things to think about that probably haven't
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heard in the last 48 hours. Now, two other different things, right,
for this. One thing is that you said, oh, Western
Michigan had done this, they had done this. I started
thinking about the Hail Mary itself. And the thing is, like,
if you're looking for a could Western Michigan, what could
they have done on that play? Right. Here's a Hail
Mary that gets completed. You don't really see that that often. Right.
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You have the Hail Mary completed and you got a
lot of play to the final whistle, play to the
final whistle. OK. And I understand that. But it's not
like they didn't have the right number of guys down there.
The first Hail Mary that was out of the end zone.
They had six players in the end zone. They were
all around the ball. Michigan was not coming down with it.
But that second Hail Mary that Bryce Underwood realized, oh,
(25:00):
I have to throw it here. Oh, okay, I can't
throw it out of the end zone. The second Hail Mary,
the one thing I can say for Western Michigan is
that they didn't really seem to have the sense of
urgency to defend the Hail Mary that they had the
first time. Part of it might be we were celebrating,
we had to go back on the field, but that's football, right?
Michigan went out next year, right? You got to go
out there and do it. But just watching the play
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And and and and saying, boy, they all got out jumped. Right.
Like they all got it. They had a Trump. They
had trouble getting to the spot where the Hail Mary was.
They did a good job of sealing.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You look at the first Hail Mary and everybody's in
the end zone, all standing next to each other. The
second Hail Mary, while the ball's coming down, you see
Western Michigan's defenders are still trying to get to the
spot where the ball is. and they're trying to get
to where they can get back and look at the ball.
So they did a horrible job actually getting there. I
don't know if they thought that, hey, Michigan's going to
try a different play, like we're going to try some
sort of lateral, and that's why they didn't get back,
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but They just threw a Hail Mary. They're going to
throw it again, and they didn't get there. And the receiver,
who's a big-bodied tight end, maybe the next great tight
end out of Michigan, he's able to get there, get up,
and have the aggressiveness to get up over everybody and
make the play. And that's the key to Hail Marys
is that you want to know why Hail Marys happen.
Hail Marys are flukes, but I'll tell you one rule
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is that if both sides are aggressive, you're not catching
the ball because they're not calling pass interference offensively. Defenders
can do whatever they want. They're not going to call P.I.
Unless you grab the guy's helmet and rip it off
his head and throw it into the stands, you're not
going to... So as long as you are aggressive on
the Hail Mary, it's going to fall incomplete. But I
did not see any aggressiveness, not near to what was
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on the play before. So if you're looking to say, hey,
what could Western Michigan have done? They were not nearly
as aggressive, nor were they around the ball for that
second Hail Mary, and that's why the pass went the
way it did. Yeah, I mean, you look at.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
The first one's sailing towards the end zone, so you've
got a natural defender back there as well, so everything's compressed.
This one, he throws it short, high arc, and the
receivers do a pretty good job of sealing it to
where Buchanan doesn't really get contested. He high points the ball,
but there's nobody there to fight him. So, yeah, as
you say, getting to the spot, closing in on where
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the ball kind of comes down, and now it begets
that great question of how much did that save Underwood?
How much longer is it before we see? When we
have Notre Dame and Michigan, is it car versus car?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh, dude, look, I know that he got the, that
Whittingham gave him the tepid vote of confidence that he's
our quarterback this week. Look, and that's the other part
of this is that Michigan was awful. Again, as I say,
as the only person who didn't either live in the
state of Michigan or go there, I watched the whole game, right?
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I'm the only one that watched the whole game. I'm
the only one.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
That was my third screen experience.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm the only one to watch the whole game. Michigan
was awful. They got dominated by Western Michigan. I mean,
when Western Michigan, you could say, well, defense, no, the
defense played well and you're asked to do a lot,
but come on, man, you can't give up a 13
minute drive to Western Michigan at home. Michigan is not good.
I guarantee you, Winningham is thinking, I should have just retired.
But number one, Bryce Underwood is the same guy he
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was last year. First drive of the game, oh, what
a different guy he is. He's so much more confident.
Look at him. His footwork is great. Then what did
you get the rest of the game? Boy, his footwork
stinks on this one. His footwork is bad here. I
don't know what he's looking at here. He's locked into
the receiver. He is the same quarterback he was last year.
Bryce Underwood looks the part. He's got all the physical skills.
He's got the big arm, the mobility skills. but you've
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got to be able to make plays, and he just can't.
He's the same guy he was a year ago. If
he doesn't complete that Hail Mary, it's probably a new quarterback,
maybe for Oklahoma, and it's Tommy Carr, but wow, he
is just not good. The $ 11 million they spent on him, wow,
that's going to be something Michigan fans think about every
single day because the guy, he's the same guy he
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was last year when he was very underwhelming. And I
don't know what to do. I mean, really, he's a guy,
he looks the part, he's got all the skills, but
now you're starting off your second year, and yes, second
new coaching staff, but you're still the starting quarterback, and
look what's going on, right? I mean, if I had
to say the Bryce Underwood era, it's going to end
at some point during this season for Michigan.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, that was a tough Whittingham response. Obviously, he's... feeling
it coming out of all of the allegations and everything
for what came down with those Hail Mary throws. So
that's part of his mind. The other is, all right,
I have the other 60 minutes, because let's call it
60 minutes plus a throw, that I have to figure
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out how to best navigate. Because the schedule is a
pain in the ass. There's no question. Michigan plays a
tough slate as you go through. And the offense was,
you were a 28-point favorite. Let's just put it that way.
Let's put it in the basest of terms. And yes,
you escaped. On the money line, they were minus 5,000.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It's a 98%. Cause that's, that's really where I'd be
curious what the, the swing of money was there, how
much Western Michigan backers lost. And you know, the Michigan
folks got that just said, Hey, put 20 on the
home team, how much that added up to. But it's
that curiosity of how long at least, like you're not
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beholden to him. Yeah, you retained him and you recruited
to keep him, assuming there were people trying to poach him.
But either way, for Whittingham, you left the comfort of
a place you've known for 30 plus years. And week one,
you have to answer a lot of questions about escaping
against Western Michigan and the fact that your quarterback was
no good. That is not the way to start a tenure.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
No, I guarantee you, he's sitting there watching that Hail Mary.
He's going, I could have retired. I could have walked away.
Like in the movies where the cop goes, I got
three more days. Here's a picture of my boat. You know,
I'm leaving. I could have been on the Keys in
Florida right now.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Just sitting there thinking.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Going to hang out with Red. Thinking back to the
21 years I spent at Utah, I could have done that.
Look what I did here. I came here like he
didn't even look. He didn't even look happy. No, he
did not relieved at all.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Like I look like he'd been punched.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh, I mean, really like like we got to understand
Michigan might be really bad like that. That's one thing
that people understand is that, yeah, well, OK, Michigan Chad there.
they might be really bad because I didn't see a
lot of playmakers. I didn't say it's not the same defense.
They normally have offense. They struggle to get the, now
maybe a new quarterback is going to get the football
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to their playmakers a little bit better. But I mean,
I think we have to understand that maybe Michigan might
just be a really bad football team. Just think about that.
Fox sports radio, the Jason Smith show with my best friend,
Mike Harmon. We got more football on the way, but
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big news today, and this is going to change the
rest of the season for Major League Baseball. Out since
May 31st. Aaron Judge has been activated by the New
York Yankees. He will return against the Colorado Rockies, which
if you're going to return against anybody, that's the team
to return against. Outside, I'm going to hit out of hand,
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and I'm just going to throw it up and swing.
You want to return against the Rockies. He's been out
more than three months because of a fractured rib. The
Yankees are going to win the AL East. They're four
games back, but they have plenty of time. They have
three and a half weeks left. in which to overtake
the Rays. As bad as you think things have been
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for the Yankees, they're still 20 games over. 500. Everything
is there for them. They had a great deadline. They
have the starting pitching. Obviously, you need the best hitter
in the American League back. You need that guy. But
now that Aaron Judge is back in a wide-open year,
I'm telling you, the American League just got way less
wide-open The Yankees have the best team, and I expect
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them to be in the World Series. I expect they
should take off like a rocket now with Aaron Judge
back because he has that kind of impact on the team.
As you've seen, when did the Yankees offense start going? Well,
one guy's out. Yeah, that's how it goes sometimes when
it's a guy like Aaron Judge or Juan Soto or
Bryce Harper or Shohei Otani. That's how it goes. One
guy affects way more than just, well, he's one spot
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in the lineup. Aaron Judge coming back as long as
he is healthy and he is back to being Aaron
Judge because you need him to be Aaron Judge. There's
no reason why. He's been out a long time. Yankees
win the AL East. They'll go to the World Series.
They're that good, and he means that much to this
team that I think people are sleeping on the fact
that he's coming back to the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I dig the fact that you got Bryce Harper into
that list because it wasn't very long ago you would
not have acknowledged anything he did. to the positive. You
would have made a Beaver reference. You would have demeaned him.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
But his teammates love him. We know they get along well.
He's not someone who is as good as he thinks
he is, but he's still not even the big engine
on the team anymore. Kyle Schwarber's been a better.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Hitter than him for three years now.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
He's been a better hitter. But Harper's presence, what he
means to everybody else in the lineup, yes. Harper is
still there. He's still that kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
The machine. Dodgers get plus 185. brewers and yankees at
plus 800 followed by the rays braves the aforementioned phillies
you go to the red socks at plus 1400 and
so on so yeah it's you know i it's even
above the fold on my screen the white socks 22
(34:34):
to 1 how about that uh but yeah but for
the yankees i mean we watched it over the course
of the year right they've navigated injury after injury and
you can talk about payrolls yeah there's you know, five
teams or six teams and then everybody else. But you
get Aaron Judge back and we're assuming they're not clearing
him unless he's 100, right?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's been that long. Right, but that's why I have
confidence in that because he was cleared for baseball activities
like two and a half weeks ago. So it's not
like he got cleared. He's going to play a couple
of simulated games. He's back in the lineup. They knew, hey,
we're okay. We're afloat here. We're a 500-ish team without him.
We're okay. we'll bring him back when he's good and
(35:14):
healthy and rested and ready to go. And he's got
a big break. So I have no doubt that he
is healthy. I have no, from this injury, I have
no doubt he's a hundred percent healthy.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
No, it's, it's, we're looking, we're getting to winning time, right?
I mean, we're into September. Now it's the stretch run.
We're talking about the wild cards, trying to fend off
whatever advantage your favorite team may have, or you've moved
on to football season. If you're done with it. So
I'm sorry, buddy. I don't know what you're doing over there.
Syracuse season. Michigan's still 1-0. We'll be fine. If Steve
(35:47):
Vangeli's the quarterback for 12 games, we'll be just fine.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean, you got to win. We'll be just fine.
Come on, man.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Want to buy some Steve Vangeli rookie cards?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
We're fine. Steve, peanut butter and jelly. Yes, 100%. I
want one of those rookie cards.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Maybe they'll do one of those Garbage Pail Kids send-ups
of Vangeli like that.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So just tomorrow to set you up for Aaron Judge,
his first at bat will be against Gabriel Hughes, who
is 0-6 with an ERA of 6.5 this season. Oh, good.
So I'm expecting good things from Aaron Judge in his
first at bat. I'm expecting good things from the entire
Yankee team tomorrow at home against the Rockies pitching.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Odds for Judge to homer on Tuesday. He'll be the
guy in your beat the streak, no question.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Exit outbound of Fresca. Exit Swollen Dome. Coming up next,
outside of Michigan, the other big story this weekend at
college football.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Fox.
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