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September 2, 2026 • 37 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmo tell you how they feel about CBS stance on Tony Romo. Longtime MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi dropped by for all the latest on the Angels sale, Paul Skenes, the Yankees and the Dodgers. Plus, a massive story out of football!

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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Boy, uh, We got John Palmarosi on the way in
about 20 minutes. All the latest on the Angels sale
to Stan Kroenke. We have Paul Skeens. But a big
day in football today because we got a statement finally
from Tony Romo, CBS broadcaster who has been put on leave,
for lack of a better term, from CBS after his

(01:19):
OWI arrest about a month or so ago. We have
not heard anything from him. He was immediately taken off
the number one team at CBS and J.J. Watt gets
a promotion. The president of CBS Sports, David Burson, said, yeah,
it's an ever-developing situation.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
We're monitoring it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Today, Romo put out a statement on social media, the
first thing we have heard from him about this. And
he expressed a lot of sorrow, a lot of regret,
an apology, and he ended by saying he looks forward
to getting back at CBS as soon as he can. Now,
his court date is not for another couple of weeks,
I believe, the 13th, the 14th, and there's no plans

(01:57):
for him to be on CBS until that happens at least, right?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
We've had about.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
A month or so to digest this story. And it's
weird because I would feel better about the stance that
CBS is taking with Romo that, okay, when things like
this happen, there are ramifications, right? We see it in
sports all the time. Guy gets a DUI, he plays
on Sunday, right? Like Keenan Allen, we saw he's going

(02:24):
to play on Sunday, right? He's going to play on Sunday, okay.
People that run afoul of the law, hey, we're waiting
to see. You know, the Josh Jacobs video that hasn't
come out yet. The Packers said we haven't seen it.
Could they see it if they wanted to? I mean,
could they see it? I mean, if they could see
it and they don't want to see it, like, what's
going on here?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Is this a just simply ask for it and sign
off on it? Or I am confused.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, they're still talking about having him this year when
this seems like it would be a really bad video
of him pushing a woman down. I like the fact
that there are still, hey, there are standards and you
need to protect the shield as much as you can.
And here's Tony Romo. who did not protect the shield
at CBS, an embarrassing situation. The body cam footage came out.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was bad.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
And CBS has said, okay, we don't know when you're
coming back now.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I would feel better about this, about this moral stand
by CBS, if I thought this was actually about them
making a moral stand about, hey, if you get an OWI,
you got to understand how serious that is. And you
put your entire career in jeopardy now. I would feel
good about that, but I don't feel that way. I
feel like this was completely done as a way to

(03:34):
get out of his contract, as a way for them
to move on from Tony Romo because they're done with
the embarrassing headlines. They're done with the fact that he
doesn't prepare for games. They have a lot of money
that's due to him. They don't like the fact that
every Sunday he trends on social media for saying stuff
that he doesn't seem like he's prepared. They don't like
the bad publicity with Tony Romo, but they're stuck. Now,
they have the money to cut a check if they

(03:54):
wanted to cut him loose, but we're paying him. We're
paying him. We've invested in Tony Romo. They're completely using
this as a way to move on from him. This
is the excuse. Because right away, what did we see? Hey,
he's off the number one team. Whoa, your guy just
got arrested. It's a developing story. He's not on the
air on Sunday. He was only going to be on

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the air once today. before the regular season started, right?
Last weekend, they had their only game. He was only
going to be on the air once, and that was
three weeks from now. But right away, it was, he's
off the number one team. He's replaced by J.J.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Watt.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
We don't know when he's coming back.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
That's really fast. That's really fast to say, this is
what our thing is with Tony Romo.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Well, I know you started to see the proliferation of
promos and the different notices about the broadcasting teams And
he's nowhere to be seen.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I mean, look, he's done. He's done at CBS.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
He is done.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
He'll be doing big 12 games for ESPN 2 next year.
That's where he's going to be. Jim, Jim, Jim.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
I can't believe it, Jim. All the kids know I'm here, Jim. Jim, Jim.
I'm not Jim. My name is Joe. Yeah, Jim, Jim, Jim,
I'm doing cornhole now on ESPN2, Jim. Apparently you get
points if the bag is actually just on the board, Jim.
It doesn't have to just get in the hole. It's
got to be on the board, Jim. Like, that's Tony
Romo's future. It's going to.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Be he's going to let me let go by CBS,
and he's going to wind up having to work his
way back up, which he will because that's Romo, but
that's how it's going to be. And they've decided that
they were going to use this as their way to
get rid of Tony Romo, whether it's they're waiting him out,
until he says, OK, guys, I'll leave. Clearly, you don't

(05:36):
want to have me back. And they figure out a buyout.
Or legally, they find a way to say, we can
fire him and we can move on. Again, I would
feel better about this move, about being a moral thing
to stand on, if I thought that's what it was about.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
But it's not.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's just, oh, hey, guess what? This is going to
help us get out of Tony Romo. Let's figure it out.
Let's immediately take him off the broadcast. Why do you
need to immediately take him off the broadcast?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right, what?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Everybody else has been okay with saying, we're going to wait,
let the legal process play out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Nobody would have been up in arms if CBS said
this about Tony Romo, because it's not like he had
to work Sunday, right? If he had a game the
next couple of days, okay, right? All right, I understand
what you're doing, and I get that. Nobody would have complained.
Nobody would have said, what's CBS doing? Oh, well, let's

(06:22):
see what happens with Tony Romo now. but they came
out right away at this, which tells you we have
an agenda with Romo, and this was simply the fortunate
thing that happened that's able for us to start the
proceedings so we can move on.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
To trigger a clause in the contract, you obviously like
what you've gotten from J.J. Watt to this point, so
you're looking to elevate his status and where he is,
and for Jim Nance, whatever the run is that they've
got and going forward, I'm sure... He didn't go without
at least a phone call in his general direction as well,

(06:56):
but we've certainly watched it on social media the last
couple of years, and we've talked about that evolution of
you have to continue to do the work, right? All
the coordinators, coaches, players that you knew their tendencies, their aptitude,
all of those things, and you had those personal relationships,
guess what? They cycle out just like you did as
a player, and it moves on. Where it gets complicated

(07:19):
is the, what is it, the fifth paragraph, I guess?
When you talk about multiple back surgeries ended my career
earlier than I expected and left me with constant debilitating pain.
That pain led to a dependence in pain medication and
my efforts to get off those medications led to an
over-reliance on alcohol. And this is where we get into...

(07:40):
some of the legalese, the understanding in terms of dependence
and chemical dependence, and how that gets factored into the decision-making,
the process, and whatever settlements come to bear, right? So,
you know, for Tony Romo, hopefully he's getting the help
he needs, right, as he lays this out here. For

(08:01):
anybody that's got the dependence on any of those kind
of things, painkillers and what have you, but we also
know that the real Crisis on the other side of
it is what happens when you are driving impaired and
what could happen just because it didn't doesn't mean it.
You don't still, you know, raise it, raise your hand.
And this goes to the legalistic side versus where CBS

(08:24):
is looking to trigger. the morals clause or whatever it
is in terms of those contracts. Everybody's got them, right?
Our businesses, right? There's always the out of something that
you do that embarrasses, for lack of a better term,
the shield. In this case, the coverage thereof.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
But.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
For Romo, yeah, I would expect at some point there's
a settlement of whatever amount, somewhere between zero and the
estimated 70 million or whatever is left on his deal.
And he moves on and tries to reclaim that career
someplace else. But yeah, the look, we talked about it
the night it happened when they took him off. Well,

(09:04):
you don't have to. You had one dress rehearsal nearly
a full month later.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
We said it when it happened, that CBS is moving
way too fast for this to be just about this
is bad behavior and there are consequences for it, right? Oh,
now this is a way for us to move. And
if they wanted to do that, I kind of understand it, right?
But there's a way to do it other than just say, oh,
right away, let's do it. Oh, this is actually going

(09:30):
to play well for us now. We can find a
way to not pay Tony Romo another cent and move on.
Because you don't like the fact that uh that that
it's bad publicity you know him him doing games now
uh is not in our favor he's not the guy
he was when he came in they had meetings with
him about trying to get better and and and taking
your craft seriously and you know you've heard the stories
over the course of the past few years but but

(09:51):
that that's why this was and i felt that that's
i got a bad taste in my mouth without it's
like oh now this is just an excuse for this
to happen.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah i mean sometimes it's the when you get with cause,
then you don't have to pay. Potentially.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's easier to litigate that.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
And you can pick and choose who you want to
be more forgiving of and who you want to say, well,
you can't do this, you're done. You can completely pick
and choose who you want to do that. Well, we
talk about star rules, and when he started.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Again, owing to the fact that he knew the players,
he knew the coordinators, he knew tendencies. So it's a
little easier to predict because you studied against those defenses.
You studied all of that. And it takes that next iteration, right?
When you go to that next generation of play callers
or whatever, are you still putting in the work to
see the same results?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Well, that, you know, but that, that gets to the,
to the root of the situation with Romo is that
we see this with athletes, with some athletes where they, Hey,
their rookie year. or their first year or two in
the league, they have an incredible amount of success. Unexpected
success right away. Nobody thought Tony Romo was going to
be that kind of guy. Go back to the beginning
of his broadcasting career. Go back 10 years where, whoa,

(11:04):
Romo was the superstar every Sunday, predicting plays. This is
going to be a quick out in the flat to
the slot receiver. This is going to be, oh, they're
going to go deep down the middle, and he would
be right all the time on it.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Just like he was as a player out of Eastern Illinois.
Nobody expected anything.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
So so he shows up. But it happens for an
athlete when they show up unexpected and they have incredible success.
They never really learn what it takes to sustain that
because they feel like, well, I came.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
In and did this. As long as I do that,
I'm all right. I got it.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't know why it's become more difficult for me.
They never get that the work ethic or the knowledge that, oh,
I need to keep doing this to succeed. Like I
jumped in and was successful. And I think that's what
it is with Tony Romo. He came in right away.
He was so successful. He's like, ah, I got, this
is easy.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
This is a breeze.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
All I got to do is predict plays and then
just show up and kind of be fun. And look,
people say wonderful things about me. I've never done, no
one's ever done anything like this on social media. And
he never learned what it is to stay.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
At the top. Well, the problem is in year four,
he started saying, what do you think they're going to
do here, Jim?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, right.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Cause you get to that point where you just get
lazy if, if that's, if that's the case.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
And that's why when I, when I hear about people
like Howie Long, and I'm not saying just because he's
a Fox guy, but from the beginning of his career,
Howie Long was always the guy on the phone, talking
to people, all the stuff. He's been legendary for his
work ethic during the week in the off season, who
he talks to making sure, Hey, when I go on,
I'm saying something that's informative. People I talk to, I

(12:37):
work hard, right? You need to have that sort of
work ethic. But when you're just showing up on Sunday going, yeah,
I can just let it rip and look how great
I am. Okay, you're never going to learn that next level.
So you get lazy and you wind. It's like a
pitcher with his mechanics. When I'm doing fine, I'm doing fine.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You don't realize.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Look at where your mechanics are now, man, compared to
where it was last year.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Come on, hey, schemes.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Look at where you are now, man. You're throwing like
84 miles an hour. No, but I mean, but that's
kind of what it is. Like, I don't know that
Romo really ever... believed that I'm not doing the right thing.
I've always done it this way. I don't know why
people suddenly are, ah, it's whatever people want to say
on social media. But if you played a replay for

(13:17):
him of one of his games he did in, say, 2015,
and then you played a replay of one of the
games he did last year, he would go.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Oh, wow. There's a difference.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's a, that there's a huge difference in what I
did in this game versus why I get it now.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
I get it now.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I get, but that's kind of what it was for him.
It's like he had that incredible success right away. And
some guys don't learn that, that ethic of what it
takes to stay at the top of your game.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Well, we talk about it extrapolating, you know, when we
get back onto the field here come week one, right?
That's been one of the great questions for guys like
Kyler Murray and others who've succeeded at that level all
the way through. And then suddenly you got to put
in more film study and work. when it always came
so naturally, right? The easy read, the easy all the
way through. I mean, how many times did you go

(13:58):
to school? Maybe you had it yourself for a while.
And all of you out there listening, wherever you are,
we appreciate you. Same thing, where it always came easy,
and then suddenly you had that teacher, that subject that
kicked your ass. It's a lot harder to suddenly say, hey,
I've got to buckle down, because you've always been able
to float. And for Tony Romo in the broadcast booth, yeah,
that's where he got to.

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Coming up next, back to the biggest story of the day,
the Angels' sale.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
What does it mean?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Dodgers have anything to worry about with the Angels suddenly
going to a guy that's going to spend some money
and make the team good?

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Ooh, that's next right here. Jason and Mike, Fox.

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Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well-dressed hobo.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
A huge day in Major League Baseball. The Angels are
sold to Stan Kroenke. What is going on with Paul Skeens?
Joining us now on the hotline. Nobody better to break
it down. Give him some time away from his Lions
season preview. then MLB Network insider extraordinaire. Check him out
on Twitter at John Marossi. It is the Pope, John

(16:10):
Paul Marossi.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
What's happening, man?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Happy Tuesday to both of you. I believe the Lions
will have a 10-win regular season, and then a couple
wins after that. Is that a standard expectation for the
Lions this year?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes, but that's never been a standard expectation for the
Lions over the most of the last 50 years.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Right. But the standard representation on this show would be
a 24, 17 win basically every week.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah. Or 27.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You pick them winning by 24, 24 or 27 points.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Those are the options. Those are, those are the good
numbers to have on the grid though. 27 to 23.
It's always in that range. I don't know. It's, The
game hasn't changed that much. I mean, it's changed since
I used to really know the players in the sport.
That was back when I was like in middle school.

(17:07):
But it hasn't changed that much. I will say this.
The Super Bowl matchup that would give me the greatest
joy would be Lions-Bills, which I know is also a
matchup that will happen 16 days from now. That will
be a good one on a Thursday evening. But I
do digress. Ten-win season for the Lions-Bills. Plenty of skill,

(17:29):
like the overall defensive look from what I've been able
to pick from my colleagues in the media here in Detroit.
So I'm feeling pretty good about that. All right.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
How do you feel about the Angels? Sold for $ 4 billion.
Stan Kroenke, many Angel fans excited.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
A new era.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Mike Trout.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
We haven't heard from Mike Trout in years, John Paul.
Today he says, hey, this was needed.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's a fresh start. It's like, Mike Trout, where you been?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Well, Mike Trout has actually become increasingly candid in his comments.
I would say Jason just probably haven't had any reasons
to listen, if we're being totally honest, in terms of
the way the Angels have played in recent years. And
Mike is very comfortable there in Anaheim, which is why

(18:14):
he's never really seriously considered waving that no-trade clause, at
least as far as I can tell. And now for him,
it is a new chapter, a new lease, if you will.
And certainly still plenty of conversation about what the ballpark
situation looks like long term. But I do think we

(18:34):
can say, after you missed capitalizing on the prime of
Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani, And the team was for
sale several years ago, and then it wasn't. And obviously,
very quickly, at least to the public's knowledge, it happened
right now. And certainly, I'm sure we'll get into what

(18:57):
it means for the Cronky sports empire. And certainly, there
will be some ramifications, I'm sure, on the television front
and local streaming front. I'm seeing that landscape change. But here, guys.
It is still at least adjacent to the second largest

(19:19):
market in our country. You've got the Olympic games coming
to California in a couple of years. There's just a
lot of, as both of you know, and it's a
play for Cronky to buy a table in May. Everything else.
And Moreno clearly. He had taken this thing about as

(19:41):
far as he could go. He got the team to
a lot of successful years there in the aughts, less
so ever since then, and at least from that perspective,
the Angels have a new chapter to embrace.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
So as we look at the baseball world as a whole,
we're starting to get into our wild card chases and everything, JP.
But another night, another miserable outing for Paul Skeens. We
went up and threw a lot of darts at the
board as to try to figure out a cause. Anybody
give you any insights as to what they're seeing with him?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Mechanics, not good. Velocity, obviously, is not what it's been.
And I think that we all have to acknowledge that
he's just not in sync. He's not himself right now. Now,
is it enough for him to be on the injured list?
I mean, that's obviously a matter for him and for
the organization there. But there's also no question that in

(20:35):
the big picture here, he's one of the faces of
the game. And also, let's not forget the other dynamic here.
Of course, we're entering this potential– new labor agreement, however
things play out this wintertime, schemes on some level, any
time that you're on the IL for any reason, it's

(20:58):
a mark in the book that ends up being brought
out whenever you become a free agent. And I'm sure...
To some extent, the Scooble situation will get mentioned about
having the bone chips removed this year and what that
does to his value. I suspect probably not a ton
because he's performing well. The reality is Skeens is not
performing right now. And it does seem to me to

(21:21):
be pretty apparent that whether it's technically an injury or
just mechanically not sound, he doesn't look like himself. And
that's a concern not only for the Pirates, but for
the game and also for Paul's long-term, depending on with
and when there's ever going to be a conversation about

(21:42):
a long-term extension in Pittsburgh, which sure seems unlikely, at
least in this moment, but you never know what the
next CBA could look like. So perhaps in that universe,
an extension becomes more realistic. And in that light, this
really is not the type of impression you want to
be leaving right before you have that conversation with the Pirates.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
MLB Network insider John Palmarosi, our guest, Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Okay, so
from Paul Skeens to Aaron Judge. We're getting good reports
out of New York that Aaron Judge looks like he's
on his way back, maybe in the next few days.
Does that jibe with what you're hearing about Judge's return
to the Yankees?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Likely within the next week. And the very good news
for the Yankees is that he is on the road
trip with them to Anaheim. So obviously a lot of
news happening in Anaheim. It does appear that things are
on track for Georgia to be back that quickly. Of course,
they had a very impressive end of their series against
the Red Sox on Sunday, of course. And it does

(22:44):
look to me like the lineup of the Yankees, while
they may not necessarily catch the Rays in the East,
they're starting to show some signs of life. In fact,
they're probably not going to catch the Rays. They're still
four and a half games back there as play began today.
But you look at how important the collective group is.

(23:04):
And they've gotten to this point with Schlittler being awesome,
with Freed. Obviously, they've had a really strong performance from
Ben Rice. It's been a little bit of a different
cast today. than what they've had before. And Caballero, what
he brings to the team is, I think, a different
element This, to me, as much as there is still

(23:26):
some active concern about the catching position, they've gotten, I think,
about what they expected from Luis Garcia Jr., not so
much Elliott Ramos, although he finally was able to break
through and get his home run. We'll see what Spencer
Jones can bring. There's just a little bit more dynamism
to this team than there was a year ago when

(23:46):
the playoffs rolled around and you put Judge right back
into it. Again, I would expect, based on what we're hearing,
likely within a week or so, gives him plenty of
time to get his legs under him for the playoffs.
And I think the overall net effect is the Yankees
could be as much of a favorite as anybody else

(24:07):
in the American League by the time the postseason gets underway.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Flipping over to the National League, Shohei Otani was scheduled
to pitch yesterday, scratched the knee and bicep, not feeling
right after a bullpen session. How much longer do they
play this game here, JP?

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, so this is the interesting part, and obviously we've
got to remember about the Otani rule that you're basically,
if you're going to put them in the lineups, as
the starting pitcher, if you will, or as a pitcher.
He has to start because that's what allows him to
be able to be the DH. And so while we
might love this notion of, oh, maybe he can come

(24:44):
in and at least pitch an inning during the course
of the playoffs, as a closer type, I think that's
asking a lot. And given the way that the knee
has not responded– It seems like, and this is my interpretation,
one man's opinion, that there's an awful lot of accommodating

(25:07):
happening and people being held up in the air about
what's going on with their own schedule and when they're
going to pitch. Last night, I wasn't sure what his
routine was. I get it. He's the best player ever.
And so you make accommodations for the best player ever.
But I do think you're getting to the point where
there has to be some type of toll on the

(25:29):
rest of the group about everyone's schedule. And I think
that just backing off and saying, listen, it's not going
to happen right now. The knee is not going to
comply at the moment. Let's just focus on the offensive side.
Because let's be honest, the team overall– they were able
to win that series over the weekend against Detroit, but they,
they're not really this unstoppable force that we've seen in

(25:51):
the past. Now they did get Will Smith back today.
It's very good news for them that they certainly have
missed him for a long time. And maybe the catching
position will help alleviate what's been an up and down lineup.
But I think to me, guys, they've got to focus on,
on that core of, of what their lineup is looking
like and, and finding a way to get Otani back
to being a threat on the basis. I, I'm of

(26:13):
the mind that it is Pete Crow Armstrong's award to
lose here, that he is the throw-in right now. And
the numbers to me are fairly strongly in Pete's favor.
But if Otani's going to either make a late push
in the MVP or just be more of the game-changing
player that we've seen him be for most of his career...

(26:34):
that he's going to have to get back to being
himself on the base a little bit more. And I
realize he injured himself last year during the playoffs, during
the World Series, in fact, running the bases. But that,
to me, is something that's got to be back into
his game if the Dodgers are going to threaten teams
in different ways during the course of October.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
John Paul, we've said this a few times. We've talked
about this on the show. At some point, because he
still wants to pitch, obviously, I remember talking about this
with you, our big preview interview when I said he's
going to win the Cy Young this year because it
seems like he's focused on pitching more than anything. He
started out great. Then, obviously, he got hurt. At some point,
if he wants to pitch, isn't the happy medium that

(27:14):
he becomes a closer? I mean, wouldn't that allow him
to do everything else and then he could still pitch?

Speaker 4 (27:20):
You can figure out the positions at the end of games.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
You lose the DH spot, but you're just going to
pinch it for the pitcher the next time up anyway.
That's something that's manageable for the Dodgers, and maybe this
is something more manageable for him health-wise that instead of
trying to pitch 130 innings a year, he pitches 60
innings a year and he closes.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Right. It's certainly conceivable. I will say this, the Dodger bullpen,
and when they were in Detroit last weekend, I was
talking to people there. I mean, you're right. I think theoretically,
I agree with you. Obviously, if he blows the save
and then has to stay in there, that makes things
a little more interesting. But I think when you look

(27:58):
at the way that things have gone to this point,
in the near term, for the 2026 Dodgers, Their bullpen
is better now than it was last year when they
won the World Series. It's deeper. They've got different options.
Evan Phillips coming back has changed things. It's a much
different version of Tanner Scott. So there's a lot to

(28:18):
like about this particular group to where having Otani close
is probably not a pressing need right now. But I
do agree with you. In general... The back and forth
about when he can pitch and how many days of
rest he needs, it's a lot. And I would also
say this. Let's say he does come back and is

(28:40):
able to pitch. Well, is he able to go back-to-back?
And can he go more than three outs? It would
seem probably unlikely. He is very routine-oriented. and that's what
makes me wonder the variability of being a closer might
in some way free him up mentally, and you play
almost a different style, and you're not really sure what's

(29:01):
going to happen in a given game. But everything we
have seen, guys, with the way that Otani has played,
for very good reasons, has been incredibly scripted down to
the moment. And I just wonder if there might be
a little bit of, uh, reticence in, in, in inviting
that level of variability to someone who is very, for

(29:24):
very good reasons, uh, structured in his ways.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
So we got two guys named Pete that vex my,
my good friend, Jason Smith here. You already mentioned Armstrong.
So let's go the other way. 8-2 in their last 10.
Can Pete Alonso drive these Orioles into the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Man, tell you what, and not only Pete Alonso, but
also the former Met icon Luis Robert Jr. now joining
the parade.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Hey, not every ex-Met the Orioles sign is going to
be really good.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
I just want to warn everybody about that right now.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Start building the statue next to Boog's Barbecue right now
of Luis Robert Jr. and Pete Alonzo while we're at it.
But in all seriousness, you think about their rotation. Rogers
has been pretty good. I think all, all things considered
this year. I think that they, they seem to finally

(30:19):
be getting into a rhythm. Remember it's a first year
manager doing this. And, and Alonzo was there. There was
all the disappointment early on, but you got to credit
Mike Elias for hanging in there. And I, I like
their chances, maybe not necessarily to win that spot. The
Guardians got a huge win today over the Blue Jays,

(30:40):
which I think gives them a little bit of breathing room.
I would give the slight advantage to Cleveland, but Baltimore
is right in there. And Jason, my goodness, if Alonzo
is there and finds some October magic again after the
home run against Milwaukee a couple years back, You can
just call me. You can call me. We'll commiserate on

(31:02):
the air, and we'll talk about how the Lions should
have won the Super Bowl a couple years ago. There'll
be some commiserating, but I'm here for you because that's
what friends do. So you call me anytime, especially when
you've got the noted White Sox fan sitting beside you. Actually,
I'm now talking myself into it. Am I now really
rooting for a White Sox-Orioles playoff series just to see

(31:23):
how How that all goes over the table with you
guys doing the show together.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
As long as it comes better than 1983. The Revenge
of 83 and Lamar Hoyt. Sure, sure. I do bits
with a member of the Ripken family. That's not good.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Those old school White Sox uniforms. Those were sweet. Those
were pretty good back in the day. We got to
bring those back. A lot of nostalgia. And by the way,
this would only be, I'm counting here, the fourth time
that both Chicago teams qualify for the playoffs in the
same year. Doesn't seem possible, but it is. The fourth

(31:57):
time ever, ever. And I'm sure that'll be one of
the many topics we get into here in the weeks
to come.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
He's on X at John Marossi. That is at John Marossi,
John Paul Marossi, the Pope.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at 10 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Pacific.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Friend, Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Well-dressed hobo.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
So apparently, Tua Tunga-Vailoa either has a burner account on
Instagram or he doesn't. Either he's congratulating himself saying, hey,
you got this, meaning it to come from a burner account.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Or he doesn't. Could it be one of his brothers today?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Today, you know, a post out there, you know, Tua
has had a horrible summer, right? Coming in, basically losing
a quarterback battle to nobody. Don't know what his NFL
future is going to be. He's going to wind up
backing up Michael Penix Jr., most likely. And on his
Instagram page, there was a quote from, ostensibly supposed to
be from somebody else, that said, hey, we love you,

(33:11):
you got this. And it was actually from himself. Okay,
now that's kind of weird. What about, I mean, they
got a.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Start with self-love.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
You got to love yourself before other people could love you.
So then reports come out, oh, here he is doing
the KD thing.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's his burner. You know, his burner accounts don't work.
Then the post was changed from his wife.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Oh, good, good.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
So then it was on her page. So now, okay, well,
does he have a burner? Was this something that was
thought of, here's how we fix it if my wife
posts it?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Or does his wife run his Twitter account?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well, sure.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
And maybe she meant to post it but was logged
in under him and it happened that way.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Could be, yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Which completely could be.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
The main point is that, boy, Tua, he cannot win
for anything. Like, you know a guy that needs a
timeout in life? It is Tua Tungovailoa. He needs Marv
Albert to walk in and go... Time out Tua. He
needs to talk it over. And you need a full
time out. Not the short one. Not the hands on
both shoulders.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Not the 20.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
No, no.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
You want the full time out.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
He cannot take one step in the right direction at all,
no matter what happens.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
I feel awful for the guy.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, look, obviously the career he's had, the money
he's made, but I mean, to, to see this, to
see someone's career, which feels like it's ending in front
of our eyes, it's.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
A tough thing. Hanging in the balance, right? Physically, it
was difficult for him to stay on the field. All
of those things, all of those images are indelibly etched
in our brains.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
It's, I mean, it's tough, but like, I feel like
we're watching, we're watching the end of his career. We're
watching his career just circle the drain now. And I look,
Is he going to be on the Falcons past the
middle of the season?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I mean, he'll probably make, we talked about last week,
he probably will make the team to start. He had
a pretty decent third game, except, you know, his air
yards are like two and a half yards per pass,
so you know that he's going to. He's going to
be a backup at best. But does he make it
the whole season? Who signs him if he's gone? We
talked about this, that we're watching the end of this

(35:12):
happening in live time. And not only that, but here's
a social media thing where now you don't know what
it is, whether he did it, whether it's a burner
thing or not. The guy just can't catch a break, man.
After today, I'm like, I just feel bad for him.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
This is where I sideswipe the Dolphins. Why did you
take the full cap hit this year? Anyway, here was
one of the comments on this Instagram post. Quote, tough
scenes when QB1 has a burner. LFG strand. That's Jack Strand,
who we've talked about during this preseason as well.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I want to be that backup quarterback now, man.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
I want to be that guy. Well, but you look
at it from a Vegas odds perspective and what we
know of the division, no one's running away and hiding.
So the opportunity is still there to go play some
meaningful and potentially winning football. You've re-signed B. John Robinson.
You gave Drake London a bunch of money. You brought
Kyle Pitts back. That's three pretty good options for you.

(36:12):
Offensive line is above average. So in theory, whoever is
under center is dealing from a pretty good place and advantage. Nah, see,
but that's your mistake. You said in theory.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Because as we've seen, wow, in theory, does not, is
not equal to, not greater than or equal to actual
happenings on the field.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
You know what? We'll find out when week four comes
and he's under center. I don't. They're not paying him
much money, right?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Unless there is some real sort of backsliding with Michael
Penix Jr., he's starting the year.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Well, but I mean, look at his health. But it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
They wouldn't have cleared him and talked to him.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah, but they would have given Tua the job, but
they can't. But what's his over-under in games?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
They can't.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Before you got to go to Tua to save the day.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm not saying he's a whole hell of a lot better,
but it's already better than what Tua's going to be.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
See, now you're thinking about Jack Strang.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Big story coming up out of college football straight ahead
that revolves around the number zero.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
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