Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight
ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every night on the
iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know, I think I need more cowbell on this song.
I mean, really explore the room, Gene.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Fox Sports One to the studio.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey, the Jason Smith Show is my best friend Mike
Harmon live from the ti iraq dot com studios tyraq
dot com. We'll help you get there an unmatched selection, fast,
free shipping, free roadhazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended
installers tiraq dot com the way tire buying should be. Well,
(00:58):
we got big stuff coming up up in a couple
of minutes, big hot take on Nikola Jokic. But we
have a championship to a note to dnote to celebrate
and to get frustrated about. Because it is now a
final in Vegas. The Golden Knights are your Stanley Cup Champion.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Final scoring game five, the Vegas Golden Knights nine, the
Florida Panthers three. They de keeap Florida in five games.
Go in the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
See that?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
When you've only been playing hockey for five sleeping years
and you win a championship, that's the call.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You get it. It was not the sole full call
seven years. You could all go die. Now we had
for the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Listen, there's there's that. Listen there there are kids in
who are in kindergarten when they started playing, and these
kids are now in fifth grade and they're getting to
celebrate that all elusive chance be a gyp. Now you
know who wasn't celebrating that announcer because it's only been
five Hey we won. I guess this is how it
works in sports. Hey we started a team, we win
a championship. All right, great, hey we won? Oh I'm
(02:11):
sorry more emotion? Where you mean their team's been playing
more than that that haven't won championships? Really like? Well, well,
look well, teams like the Jets, right they oh no,
they haven't won it. Oh fifty more than fifty years,
more than fifty fifty four? Oh oh oh well Oh, well,
I guess I guess we're lucky. Then, yeah, but we won.
We all knew what was happening. It was nine to
three in the in the clinching game. Year the Knights
(02:33):
win it in five, four games to one. And this
is why. Look, it's exciting for Vegas to win. It's
great when when when a big city wins a championship,
especially you see a team that just started playing a
few years ago, it's exciting. You get that youthful energy.
But the other part of it is, yeah, what the
hell has my team been doing? Because we've been around
way longer, way way longer.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
This is really bothering you.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
We've had fifty years of first round draft picks, we
had the entire organizations with minor league and lower level
minor league and programs outside of the country and everything
else to try to win. And this is a franchise
that didn't exist five years ago. They had zero players.
I don't mean they stunk, No, they had zero players.
(03:16):
They had to rely on other teams, leaving players unprotected
to make that first team. And it's not like you
can say, well, we've gotten out of that and segue. No,
it's five years later. They've won two division championships, right,
they make it to the Stanley Cup final, they win
the Stanley Cup final. They had they weren't even anything
five years ago. They were nothing they did, they didn't
(03:37):
have anything. They were a non entity. They were gasseous vapors.
And here they are winning the Stanley Cup. And I
gonna look at my teams. You gotta look at your teams.
Everyone looks at their team's going. Man, we've had a
big time head start, and look where we are right now.
We came with your team.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say the Blackhawks had a pretty
good run about a decade ago. The Kings had a
couple of wins, you know, through the last decade, Mike right,
I mean it was Martinez nine years ago tonight. Yeah,
So there you go, and Jonathan Quick gets himself another
title today. So we've seen it from the hockey side.
(04:12):
From the rest of the world, I gotta go to
two thousand and five. That's still not ancient. I'm okay
with that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's everybody. It's a long time. It's a lot. But
for teams that haven't really won think about it. Not
mainly there's other teams that have it just my team for.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
The purpose of the show. It's really your angst as
a fan that has to stand front and center.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Look, the Buffalo rust haven't won. Look the Dolphins haven't won.
I keep going through all these teams, the Bengals, the Browns,
all these teams. I just keep going. Then I look
at all these teams, the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I like how you started. Look the other teams in
my division sucked.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Well, you talked about my teams. Want tell you all
the teams.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I just like that.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
The first teams you named that didn't win were also
in the AFC East, such as the Jets. Man, these
two teams.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
How do you think Dallas Cowboys fans feel right now? Man, going,
we've won like one playoff game in the last eighteen years,
and here are the Golden Knights that we're gonna win
round after round after playoffs. We're gonna win divisions, We're
gonna go and win the whole bleeping thing. Now, I mean,
there's other teams out there that you feel, you know, look,
look look at the team like the Commanders, or the Eagles,
(05:25):
or the Bears, or the so many of these teams,
and you go into other sports, not just the Mets.
It's not you know, it could be not just them. Okay,
it is a lot of the Mets. But do you
have other teams that haven't won and so forever long
as what have they been doing? What's been happening? The
Twins haven't won. They've been playing baseball since like nineteen forty,
you know, they have a one since nineteen eighty seve
(05:46):
or nineteen ninety one. You look at all these teams,
it's like, how does a team with no players? How
does a team with no players out fox everybody and
win a Stanley and win a major sports championship. It's
it's insane. Build a squad?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well they gel right coaching the world opens up. But
I mean it's the same story we had last night.
There's a number one seed and over there it's an
eight seed, number one seed, four games to one.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Jason, you do know how the expansion draft works, right? Yeah? No,
they got players, we just have nobody's no. But you
had you basically take the best player from every team
that's not protected. Right, But that's okay. Normally those are
really good players. No, no, they're not. You're protecting. You
can protect a lot of guys. So the team ends
up getting a lot of players, right, but still you
(06:35):
had zero players. It's like a fantasy draft. It's like
me being able to do a fantasy.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Draftdraft froster and winning.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I mean that's how it is. After a draft like that,
they're easily a top ten team. I don't know that
you're a top ten team. I think you. They do
it so you can be competitive, they do you can
be competitive and not have to worry about Boy, we're
gonna get drilled for the next three or four years
and have a bunch of early drafting until he turned
out Goaltart It off with because of the draft from
the Penguin, Well, because they got lucky of that because
(07:03):
they had yet so they had nobody. Well because because
that was the one year that what's the same, Well
that was a stupid thing because the Penguins Marc Andre
Fleury was a terrific glory right, But then I forget
who it was that had an unbelievable year that year,
and they had to choose because you can only protect
one goalie, right, So it was one of those boy,
what do we do do we protect the young guy
(07:23):
to protect Flurry and they protected the wrong player, obviously,
because Fury went on to continue to have a great career.
So that was a lucky thing. And it's a good
position they were able to start with. So that was
just a fluke. They were able to get him. But
you're still talking about an entire rest of a team,
no no minor league, no anything, and they still go
and they win a championship. It's it's it's so frustrated
(07:46):
because I got to watch the Mets lose tonight and
watch Francisco Lindor. We're paying three hundred and thirty million
dollars to strike out with the bases loaded, one out
in the eighth inning, and have this game be a game,
A game where I go, boy, another game where I go,
I think the Mets season is over. I think the
Mets season is over. Now tonight. Now, I think the
Mets season is over. And I think I think that
once every three nights now three nights in a row,
(08:07):
and they played the Braves last week, but like every
other night, Yeah, I think it's over. I don't know, man,
I should go back in time and have me pick
the Yankees and the New York Giants as my as
my baseball and football team hockey? Should I have picked
the Well we won one Stanley Cup at least, so
(08:30):
it's okay, okay, and then uh, the boy instead of
the Nicks. What do I do? Well, there was no
watch basketball? Yeah, she had just not watched basketball.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You just tune out of that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I should have. I should have went to Duke. That's
what I should for college.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, but look, everybody gets one, right, isn't that
what part?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Anybody can get one? Anybody can get one.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, so in Vegas got their one. Uh and they
did it in short order. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But that's the thing. It's not like. Look, and this
is where we get to we get to some some
real impressive things about it too. It'said. This is not
like this is a team that was awful for the
last four years and finally put it together and they
win this year. This is a team that they have
been pretty good since they started playing, right, They had
a big they had a big playoff run a couple
of years ago, they won the division a couple of
(09:20):
years ago, they win the division again this year, and
here they are winning the Stanley Cup. It is a
little bit easier to build a team in hockey than
it is in other sports, just because the less teams
protection with the draft and everything. But it's still you're
talking about you starting with nothing and then in five
years later, here we are instant Stanley Cup. It's like, no,
I just pour hot water in. I pouring some instant
(09:41):
Stanley Cup. Mix it around, blow on it. Okay, all right,
it's not too hot. I drink it, and I'm drinking
a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Second one hundred point season in the franchisees history their
first year, and now here twenty two, two, twenty twenty three,
two ninety point season, and then two in the low
and mid eighties. So you're looking at a squad constructed well,
and look, that's one of those things we're talking about
(10:10):
the way the Nuggets were constructed, drafted in faith. Jamal
Murray tiery yesterday about hey, thank you for not giving
up on me, saying that to Malone, saying that to
Stan Cronkey and anybody who would listen about fearing what
his future was gonna be. Michael Porter junior back and
has a big playoff run. All of those things come
(10:32):
to fruition, and it's organizational stability and trust. And we've
watched in the NBA. How quickly you start churning through
coaches that you like and then suddenly you don't Vegas
Golden Knights, build a squad, take advantage of all of
the advantages from their entry to the league and the
(10:55):
unpredicted players draft well, keep it together. I mean, all
of it plays in to the same formula. You got
to get really lucky at times too, right, I mean,
guys don't get hurt and you're able to withstand a
big run. Because what do we see on the NBA,
what do we always see in the NFL. It's like, ah,
that team would have been great, but that guy got hurt.
(11:15):
That guy got hurt. They had a problem. The Knights
come through.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Now in all seriousness about this, Look, I am very
upset to Mike, are still very upset.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I mean, that is real.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But I will say that and this and this is
this is serious. You think about this. If you had
a let's say, let's say let's have a mount rushmore right,
Let's do a mount rushmore right, now, a mount Rushmore
of the best run franchises in sports, right, we talk
about all the franchise. Look, how well the Golden State
Warriors are run. Look how crazily the La Lakers are run.
Look at it. If you had the Mount Rushmore right now,
(11:48):
of what franchises and the major sports are the most
well run, the Golden Knights are on it. I mean
there's no how are you not when you start? When
you start right now?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
How more?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Just you start with no players, You start with no
players and in five years you build a level of
excellence that ends with this. Yeah, that's a model of
what are you doing? How did you do it? And
how did you get to this part so fast? How
did you succeed so fast? How did you keep that
success going? How did you keep the success going when
you were still cycling through players trying to figure out
(12:21):
your identity? How did you find your identity so fast?
How is this able to happen? And even in a
city where there was there's never been this sport before,
Like that's like something that's impossible, and here they are.
So if you're talking about the best run franchises in
all of sports right now, yeah, you have a Mount Rushmore.
The Vegas Golden Knights are on it because nobody's been
(12:43):
able to do something like this.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Then you get the big year from Jack Eichel watching
him skate around with the cup and all the praise
for his play made a couple of monster plays to
help blow this one open today. But yeah, it all
has to come together. I mean Mount Rushmore where we
stand right now? I mean, how long a lens are
(13:05):
we putting on it? Five years? Ten years? What's your
window here? Because if we want to just do it
in the last five to ten, then then sure, I
guess we probably have them crashing the party with the
organizational stability in the run here. But you know the
Warriors are still going to be number one in all
of that run.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh yeah. Look, if you're doing a Mount Rushmore, right,
and you have one team and it just so happens,
are we just doing one from every sing? No, no, no, no
you want to do? Or I can give you one
team from each sport? Right? I don't have to, but
I could, right because I think you're right. The Warriors
would be the team from the NBA the way they've
been run the last decade, right, absolutely, because.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Even if they didn't win, they were still viable. I mean, look,
I like even this year, I mean they had two
games they gave away, they beat the Lakers, who the
hell knows?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, I mean I like heat culture and all. But
at the Warriors, Okay, the other two teams, I will
give you that. The way they're run and the way
they're able to seamlessly go year to year and succeed
the Kansas City Chiefs, sure, and the Dodgers, that's a
level of excellence no matter what you have, all the
winning that's done all the way through, there's your Mount Rushmore.
(14:13):
There's your four who are the four most well run
teams in all of sports. I think it's just a
coincidence that there's one from each sport, because look, there's
other do you can sit here and say, hey, you know,
I want to go to a different sport, and I
can tell you that that I think the you know,
for a long time, the Spurs were that way, you know,
up until like five or seven years ago when they
just lost him Duncan and everything was else was out.
(14:34):
But I would say that those are your four Mount Rushmore,
your four best run franchises in all of sports, right there, one, two, three, four,
The Warriors, the Golden Knights, the Chiefs, and the LA Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Right above that, you got pictures of Saban and the
people that run and recruit and do everything for Oklahoma
Sooners women's softball.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, yeah that is true. Yeah, that is true. Yes,
we talked about it the other day.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
We got to bring it back.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, yes, yes, and we said sports Yeah, I said, hey, no, dude,
come on, re championship and their ace pitcher just transferred
to Nebraska and she just won that. She just won
another championship and she's going to Nebraska. Now's going back
home amazing, And they're like, yeah, okay, we're just reloading.
We're just absolutely reloading. Oh man, So there it is.
I'm telling you, that's the Golden Knights. That's how well
(15:19):
they're run right now. Uh, Twitter, and how about a
fresca Mike gets swollen down the Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon. This hour of the show
is brought to you by a Progressive Progressive makes bundling
easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by combining
your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more all your protection
in one plays Bundle and Save at Progressive dot Com.
(15:42):
Well coming up next, Yes, Well, we had to get
to we awarded a championship to the Vegas Golden Knights
there carrying the Stanley Cup around the ice as we speak.
But straight ahead, how about that Nicola Jokic hot take? Oh,
keep right here? Jason and Mike from the tire Rack
dot Com Studios Fox When is the Parade?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know, I'm driving around today going to pick up lunch.
I guess where he went for lunch? Where's that McDonald's
you did so?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, well because my daughter, No, no, because my daughter
was gonna have you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Tried to fool me like it was the Magic Johnson
Twitter game? Is that true?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Guess hard? We went to salad zr us No.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
So we go there or take the field.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So I was going to McDonald's because I was picking
up lunch because my daughter was having her best friend
over and they both wanted McDonald's for lunch. Like, yeah,
I'll go get it. And of course I'll get McDonald's
for myself. So I'm driving around and I'm flipping around
the station and I turn on the eighty station, and
I really I was gonna call Ty Shirt just to
curse him out, because I think it was where the
lead singer of Tears for Fears was doing like an
(16:58):
hour as a guest, you know, like I because but
he was talking a lot, and I'm going, is he
doing an hour is like a guest? What am I
doing listening to this? And I turned right off and
I never turned back to see what. Almost called you
to say, Hey, if you want to listen, I think
your guy is on you know XM right now doing
an hour of being a guest DJ like they do now?
Did you not know Ty Shirt DJ's ladies? No, No,
(17:23):
you know what you're doing that once in a while,
is Rich Davis? Can I say that? I mean, I don't.
I mean he's on the air. I can hear him,
do it? No, I hear I hear him on like
on the weekends. Like that's like a great thing because
I guarantee that's now. I don't know this, but I'm
sure it's a Hey, I'm gonna voice track this show
and it'll take me fifteen minutes, and I can voice
track a three hour show.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And I'm dude, I want in.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Man, that's how it's done now.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I mean I could program a radio show with some
of the greatest music a lot of people have never heard.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, I don't think they'd let you program it. They'd
let you talk. I think they'd picked the songs, and
I don't think they'd let you.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Pick I don't get to collaborate.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
No, because you'd be the worst DJ ever because you
would play thirty seconds of every song and then change
the next song. You'd be the worst DJ ever.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Really supportive Tuesday night here on Fox Sports Westy. I appreciate, buddy, Buddy,
I'm trying to say all the love and appreciation.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I mean, you play a song that people like, Wow,
Why why is he change it after thirty seconds? He's bored?
Where he wants a new song?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I want you to hear as many samples of great
stuff that I can possibly bring you. You know what,
this commercial, I'm gonna cut that and have to wait.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Wait a minute, what do you do? Yeah, I'm done
with that commercial. I want to hear another commercial.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I got bored but that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
No, but that, but because I'm glad you see, that's
the whole thing is is you're admitting to the problem
you have that you can't listen to a whole song.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Now I can, regular arude.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I have never been in the car with you where
you have left one song on for the entirety of
the song. Ninety seconds go by and you're done.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
We listened to the entirety of a live version of Cooma.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
We did.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Don't try to tell me that that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Didn't No, no, no, you know because I didn't. I
didn't listen. I didn't listen. I was in a coma
when you played that song, so you have to listen
to it. No, no, no, there was no listening going
on when you put coma on. But it's like ninety seconds,
next one, next one, next one. Just let's hear those song.
No no, no, no, no, they're getting the lyrics you
didn't like or whatever it was. You know, Hey, I
(19:22):
don't like the part when Brenda and Eddie get divorced
and see here's an Italian restaurant. Let's get to the
next I like it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It's like, ha really does affect me emotionally. I mean,
the weight of that part of the song really does
affect me, and I'm sure many other people.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yes, hey, sorry spoiler alert, Brenda and Eddie do get divorced,
but they part the closest to friends. Well, first a
bottle of red, bottle white, then a bottle of white,
bottle of red. That's what they do. That's how come
you call me? I would have put you on air
with me. I would I would never call hey, Kai
go the Tears for Fears got no, No, I'm not
gonna do it. That would be my name. Not gonna
do it, not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And here's Tears for Fear. Yeah, he's gonna take it,
you know, just for a second.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I love when when people win those contests and they
get to be like the guest DJs and and they
talk like this, Hi, I'm I'm your guest DJ. Jim Jimmelson.
I'm very excited to be here playing all my favorite
heavy metal music for you. One of my favorite bands
is Anthrax. So here's a song from their Fistful of
(20:23):
Metal album, a cover of an old Alice Cooper song.
I'm eighteen here on XM Radio sounds about as excited
as the Golden Knights played by pet It was the
same guy, same du same.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Day, supposed to yesterday again, the Nuggets guy telling you, hey,
you're ready to die?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Well, that was at least that was emotional. Tonight with
the Vegas gold Knights, Yeah we won. We've been around
five years. We said, you know, look, this is Vegas.
This is like the seventh most important thing happening in
the city tonight. All right, just so you know, Vegas
winning the Stanley Cup. Yeah, we still got some things
that are bigger. So you know that's where're at.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But head over for you shrimp buffet and the greatest
haul of oats cover band you'll ever see.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Hey, if the Vegas Gulden Knights win the Stanley Cup,
get a free shrimp cocktail here at the Uh how
about a Nicola yokach hot take. Let's go about to
have a Nicola Yoka tak him. Uh No, no, no,
trade him to the nickt No, no, no, you get what
you need out of him.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
He's done.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
How much of Jokic's behavior after winning the NBA title
is genuine and how much of it is forced and
and him putting on an image because watching him after
they win the NBA Championship, I look at him, and
(21:45):
I look at the back and forth between is alternately
excited for celebrating and then not, And it's almost like
he went over the top to show that hey, I'm
not as excited as you think I should be. And
he had moments of sheer excitement, tackling Jamal Murray and
throwing him in the pool. Extremely excited. That's very happy.
(22:06):
Potentially problematic too, right, Well, use it was a small pool.
I was worried that's a very small small going to
hit ahead. But they didn't. They were fine. If he
had his wallet on him or was more important than
you can go in your wall, you'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, I mean, if you're to believe his persona from
his presser, he doesn't want that phone and he doesn't
want to have to return all the messages.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
No, I mean, look, Jokic wins, and you're winning a championship,
and and forget for a second, Oh, Jokich is a
different dude. Hang on, He's been here for quite a while, right,
He's been playing trying to win a championship for years. Yes,
he's getting paid, he's getting a lot of money, but
his entire team, they're all trying to win a championship.
Right after it's over, he doesn't celebrate with his team.
(22:47):
He goes, he shakes hands with everybody on the Okay,
pretty classy move. Then he gets excited and he's throwing
Jamal Murray in the pool. Okay, great. Then he goes
to the postgame press conference and he says he's not
excited about winning. He wants to go home. He's asked
about the parade. Are you excited about the parade? Not really?
I want to go home. Are you getting phone calls? Yes,
(23:08):
I'm getting conngraduatory phone calls, but I'm not gonna answer.
I feel like he is pushing an image of I
want you to see me as the irreverent winner. I'm
not like everybody else. I want to share that this
is what I'm like, that winning and losing is. You know,
I can treat both of those imposters the same, like
they say in the poem. But I feel like he's
(23:29):
going overboard with a little bit of yeah, I'm really
not that excited, not excited with the big champagne spray.
I'm like, dude, you want a championship man. Your teammates
are all really bleep and excited, the fans are all
really bleep and excited, and this is how you act.
It's a little too much of Hey, I'm really not
into it, especially when you show me you were into
it a little bit, now suddenly you're not into it.
(23:50):
I feel like I'm trying to push this brand, in
this image out there that this is kind of who
I am. I want you to feel like I'm the
irreverent winner and instead of someone who to hey, go
and be natural and celebrate. Yeah, I get you're tired.
Everybody's tired, but everybody else on the team, Hey, they're
excited to win a championship, and you should be excited
to win a championship too. Otherwise, why are you playing?
(24:10):
If you're not playing to win a championship, why are
you excited? And the fact that he gave us the
excitement again, I'm gonna go back to that. If he
was the one note all the way through, I would say, Okay,
that's just kind of nah. But he was excited a
couple of times and then oh hey when the cameras
were on, When the cameras were on him, he went
out of his way to show Yeah, no, I'm really nay.
Winning is just It's just I feel like that's the
image he wants out there. I want people to think
(24:32):
of me this way. So I'm going to put this
out there. It's not as genuine as we think it
would be, or people want to make excuses for the
guys saying, oh, that's just who he is. A lot
of I think a decent amount of disingenuousness from that
right there.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
It's okay to be the little kid. You know that
everybody has the pictures of that wasn't gonna make it
all the stories. Here's the picture of him from all
those years ago in Serbia wearing a Nuggets jersey. So
are we really doing this now? So Lebron gets to
go play in Cleveland, he plays in Denver where he
had this ragtag jersey from all these years ago, and
(25:06):
now when Benyama gets to go play with Popovich, you know,
because the French they love the Spurs because of Tony
Parker and everything else. What are we doing here? There's
me being my fake, fake outrage. See I'm ready for
my close up skip. But the idea is that you've
got a guy who even channeled his Yannis in his speech,
(25:30):
right the steps and pushing forward and all those so
giving you pragmatic and disaffected or kind of put off
by anything but the work and then unfortunately the cameras
follow you the full length of time after right, because
you get equal praise showing love to all the heat
(25:51):
players and coaches before celebrating Wow, lookout, professional and dignified
and everything else. And then he takes Jamal Murray out
with tackled to the pool, much like the golfer that
got run by the security guy when he tried to
pop a bottle of champagne last Sunday. All of those
things that flow together, and it's I guess we just
(26:12):
say it's the wave of emotions, but certainly trying to
show the media, Hey, you know what, I'm a heady guy.
This is what I'm all about. Embrace it. Be the big,
goofy kid. If that's who you are, right, If it's
you and your brothers and the signs and everything you
do with your kid, that's all fine and good. Embrace it.
People want to love you now your front and center. Right.
(26:33):
The people on the national broadcast didn't know who the
hell you were two weeks ago. Embrace the love. Let
them know who you really are. If you're big and
you're gonna jump around and be excitable, don't be the
oh what a you know what an imposition this is. Yeah,
I think it's kind of false. I would agree with
(26:54):
you there, but you know what, they both play for
the media the same way.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, look at every but everybody's looking for an angle.
That and that's the way sports stars, right, All stars
want an angle. They all want to find a way
to cut through, right, no matter what. And Yokich is
someone who the general I don't want to say the
general NBA fan, but the general sports fan. I would say, No,
it's just a little bit about him. Now, the average
(27:20):
NBA you know tons about Nicola Jokic, and you know
what stands apart? How does he stand apart from everybody?
And he stands apart by in winning. This is how
I react. I'm not going to be you know, he's
the one guy in the last fifty years. Then after
they win a championship, is like, yeah, yeah, I'm not
excited about the parade. I'm not excited about this. I
want to go home. I'm not excited about the champagne.
(27:41):
Oh I'm excited to throw Jamal Murray in the pool.
That's cool, and I'm excited about you. But the rest
of it. Now, when the cameras are there, when the
cameras are there. That's how I act, because I guarantee
you he didn't know if the cameras were there when
he threw Jamal Murray in the pool. Everything else, he
knew the cameras were on him. The interviews at the
end of the game. I mean, maybe Lisa so doesn't
want to give her anything because she didn't know who
he was. But the interviews at the end of the
(28:03):
game on TV, everything he knew, and that's what he
wanted to put out there. It's like, really, really, you
want a championship. Why are you playing if this is
just how you feel. No, I'm done, It's I'm ready
to go. What's a chort? Oh sorry, it's such a
chort to win an NBA championship. No.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
As we talked about last night, though, I kind of
dig that persona of Hey, the job's done, I'm gonna
go home, I'm gonna ride my horses, I'm gonna hang
out with my brothers, my family, and my farm until
it's time to work again. I kind of dig that,
And that's what a lot of his teammates had been
saying throughout this process, and certainly in their post championship
(28:40):
conversations and that that's who he is. He's a simple
guy and that's what he wants to do, and the
two can coexist.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But hey, when his brothers picked him up after that,
which I can't believe you you're talking about his brothers
picking up a guy that goes six eleven, two seventy.
He was excited. Then he's excited others to end up
jumping up and down. I mean, you know, we all
we all.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Wear masks, jars, trying to be who we are, you
know in certain things. I mean, you know, you're not
the same guy all the time. I'm sure as hell
not the same.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, but after I win a championship in sports, what
I've been built, but my teammates and I've been building.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Towards for years, you would have been the giant champagne
bottle and tried to drink it all yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
This out of the show brought to you by Progressive Insurance.
Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable to get a multi
policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and
more all your protection of one plays, bundle and save
at Progressive dot Com.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Well.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
A very emotional day in sports earlier today Today was
a last day for Shannon Sharp at FS one on Undisputed,
signing off for the final time. There were the reports
that he was leaving after the NBA Finals. He came
on today the finals are over and Shannon said this
was his last show. He went out of his way
to thank Skip Bayless and a host of other people
(30:07):
for the last seven years. And here he is from
earlier today on FS one.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
And last but not least, Skip Bayless, you fought for me, bro, Yeah,
I'm here because of you. You've allowed me to share
the stage with you. You allow me to share the platform.
I'm gonna cry in the car, but I'm not going
to ride now. The opportunity that you gave me to
become what I became. I'm forever and debted to you.
I'll never forget what you did for me.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You've helped me grow more than you ever know.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
All Right, So wait, wait, do they not like each
other or not? Mike car I don't know. It's like
I'm watching a TV show, like I'm watching a drama.
Do they like each other? Do they not like each other?
Do Shannon like Skip? Did he not like Skip? All
the rumors? Why he was I don't understand. I don't
know where're at right now. And Harmon's gone apparently.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
For oh sorry, sorry, here your platform.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You got to turn your microphone on, Mike, you don't
hear your micro yes, well.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I mean that you know what someone else would be
turning my microphone on the.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
No on, Mike Harmon, I'm so good. I don't turn
my own microphone on. Blah blah blah blah. You're gonna
be making the greatest argument ever. But if your microphone
ain't on, nobody's gonna hame.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Oh no, I'd be loud enough to where Skips could
pick it up. Look, just like the Nicola jokicch conversation
we just had, there's some acting involved, and there's also
showing who you are, and some and and exacerbating and
accelerating and and amping up things on the other side, right,
so there might be a little bit of animus. I
(31:39):
still think the uh the jealousy tagline that got used
a while back, going back to Tom Brady's retirements and
our fascination with him versus Shannon's career. I think that
might have stuck a little bit. But overall it is
great theater more more than anything else. I mean, skip
(31:59):
coming saying you're my greatest you know what great great adversary.
I'm like, you guys are talking about sports. We made adversaries.
So in the end, it's amped up conversation sometimes, man,
you and I do it every once in a while.
We get a little chippy with each other, and depending
on the mood you're in, maybe maybe it rolls off
(32:20):
and you chuckle about it. And there's other times like hey, hey, hey,
you know, like the whole arm and skip songs after
thirty seconds. I just want to expose you and the
greater listening world to all the genius that has been
consumed on my playlist, and I want to give it
to you thirty seconds at a time. But it's just
(32:42):
so it hits you know, and and different areas of
your personal personal effects whatever. And for this, I think
a lot of it is uh, you know, amped up, fabricated.
You finish the show, you look at each other and go, hey,
that was fun, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So it's like, wwe, hey, yes, you came this close
to hitting me out there. I'm sorry, I know I
got really close on that figure four leg lock.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah yeah, it's your turn to pay for the taxi,
you know, that kind of thing. So I think there's
very much a lot of that there. I mean, look,
it doesn't mean you agree on one hundred percent of things.
There's also, you know, with everything in life, there's the
natural course. You know they say all things, all things
(33:25):
must pass. Is that not the great nineteen seventy one
album from George Harrison after the Beatles broke up.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's what we got, you know. And the thing is
is that what we're gonna see, I'm sure for a
while is we're gonna see a lot of athletes commit,
a lot of people FS one coming in, going through
debates with Skip. That's how it's gonna go. And I
think it's gonna be that's gonna kind of be the
model of the show. I think you're gonna see a
lot of that, you know, a different cast of people
going through and you see what hits and what becomes
(33:54):
what becomes good, what debates are great what debates are fire.
I think that's how you're gonna see, especially over the summer. Oh,
you're gonna see that a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Add a bunch of actors, comedians. I mean they like
to work in sports talk radio. I mean you've got
all of those things.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Like Michael Rappitport's gonna comit and do a couple.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Drafted who although I got a saying, wait, has he
not done that before? Has he not been on there?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I would kind of like to see Michael Rappaport be
now now that I say that, I kind of would
like to see that little.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Guest spots here and there. And I gotta be honest,
I think if we go through the annals of history,
there's probably some guest spots there. I know, Skip's Buddies
with littl Wayne. I mean, he'll be on there. I
mean there's there's a lot of folks.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yet Aaron Rodgers on there? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
One of the great debaters of our time?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Question about it? Twitter and out about a Fresca, Mike
at Swollen down The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Coming up next, Do we have an
NFL story today where one Super Bowl favorite may have
seen their plans take a huge hit earlier today. That's
next on the tirec dot com Studios, Fox,