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August 25, 2023 40 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the recent UCL tear that has struck Shohei Ohtani and wonder if he or the Angels could have prevented it. Plus, FS1 Analyst Ric Bucher joins the show to talk NBA trade rumors. 

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:49):
were all hoping it was gonna stay close, maybe we'd
see a big upset tonight, but it looks like the
best team in the CFL. It's going to move on
with a win tonight. They have Blue Bombers pulling away. Yeah,
I'll tell you, Manto. The Aloets kept it close, but
a big touchdown pass from somebody to somebody. We just
watched you not the guy in the play. He's thirty

(01:10):
seven to seventeen. And Steve de Sager is a really
rich dude because the over hit for him and now
he is going to be I mean he really he
should buy pizza tonight. I mean, I'm I'm buying pizza tonight,
but he should buy pizza tonight. Well, I mean, you know,
you transfer transfer the debt, you hit the over hit
the over on it. Wow easily too. You guys still

(01:31):
had a full quarter and isn't isn't isn't a quarter
in the CFL twenty five minutes? Don't they play one
hundred minute games like it? Yeah? You know what's great though,
there's actually people in the stands there. I was just
showing you a shot from guaranteed raid Field, you know,
because Steve's so kind as to mock me in his updates.
Let me give you a bunch of details about two

(01:51):
teams that suck. Yeah was they've hit five home runs.
They announced an attendance of thirteen thousand payball there might
have been thirteen. I can't even say there was more
than if you said three hundred, I would say, I
don't know. Man A's and White Sox I wrote, my brother,
what do you think eight hundred people?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's one hundred degrees in Chicago? Yes, and Youngs and
Roses is over at Wrigley Field. I'm gonna say, I'm
gonna go out on a limb. Guns N' Roses had
a bigger, bigger crowd. I'm gonna guess you're absolutely right.
Even if they played that new song that's terrible, like
that has the only song that they play. We're gonna
play perhaps eleven times, and that's our concert tonight. More
people would stay for that. Are you gonna go with

(02:31):
me when they come here in October? Uh? October? Yeah?
Oh yeah, yeah it's at the New Football So yea yeah,
I mean I really, I really wish to go back
to Qualcoms is like, because then I feel like I'm
going to see them in nineteen eighty seven. No, I
get this, you know Qualcomb was like that. But yeah,
we'll go to San Diego Sunday night. All right, we'll
make that happen unless unless the Jets are playing, if
the Jets get flexed to Sunday night, which could happen. Actually,

(02:52):
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Well a little bit more on Otani before we get
to the latest today involving Trey Lance. You know now

(03:13):
he's gonna be out. He's not gonna pitch for the
rest of this year. We told you that his contract
isn't going to reflect pitching at all. He's gonna get
paid to be a big slugger. Think of what Aaron
Judge and Bryce Harper, what these guys are getting. That's
gonna be Otani's contract, maybe a little bit more because
he's a bigger draw than Judge and Harper. But the

(03:34):
days of him being this unicorn and and doing something
baseball we've never seen, those days are likely over and
and we're gonna talk about him as being a star,
But we're gonna look back at this three year run
and go can you can you remember when Otani did
that and then his body just couldn't hold up. Because
it's a lot, it's a lot to go through the
riggers of playing every day, even when you're a designated hitter,

(03:56):
and then every fifth day pitching. It's a lot to
go through. And last night, when when the story broke,
I kept thinking, I really would like a doctor to
weigh in and say, hey, yeah, this is what happened
major League Baseball. It is a lot of stress on
you to pitch every fifth day when you are playing
a position. And I came around to this today. Is

(04:17):
that not that? How do I say this? Not that
we should have seen it coming, but we shouldn't be
as surprised that something like this happens. Because when you're
doing something that nobody in baseball is done in eighty years,
and you're doing it on a high level over the

(04:38):
course of three years, how long can you really do
this for?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
How long could you really expect Otani to stay healthy pitching,
stay healthy hitting and do both of those things right? Really,
just to be realistic, how long could you honestly expect
Otani to be able to do something like that? Did
we just think it was going to happen in infinity?
He's gonna be thirty eight years old and pitching and
with an era of two and a half and still

(05:02):
hitting fifty home runs. We think we're gonna see it
for ten years, twelve years. I feel like this is
something that shouldn't be that surprising, just because to be
able to keep up what he's keeping up is inhuman
and at some point he was going to show us
that he was a little bit human. And that's kind
of what we're seeing now, the training and the process,

(05:23):
and look at every level, we've seen guys have to
make the choice. And in a couple of cases, we've
had players maybe not able to achieve not because of
injury necessarily, but performance as a pitcher, go back and
come reinvent as a hitter or vice versa. We've seen that.
We've certainly seen a lot of pitchers go and have
injuries and then reinvent themselves. Right. John Smoltz, one of

(05:46):
the greatest starters we saw, gets hurt, comes back, becomes
what behind Rivera and Hoffman, I mean these top three, right,
He's metal stand in terms of closers once he got rolling. So,
I mean, we've certainly seen those types the situations. But
but I think you're right, and I think and I
think we celebrated it and commemorated it properly in that respect,

(06:08):
knowing that you only you only got so many games,
and it's it's the only time we've ever seen it, right,
go back to Babe Ruth. That's fine, that's a one
hundred years ago. We got nothing. We got sped up
footage of him. It's running really fast with his baby
steps around the field. Other than that, it's a lot
of you know, legend and myth building. And for this

(06:30):
we got to watch it play out where you had
the heroics at the plate and that every fifth day,
not always dominant, but he battled right as a pitcher
and got to the fifth, sixth innings in most starts,
not always you know, clean sheets and whatever else, but
the fact that he was doing it. I think as
a for a sports media put it this way, that

(06:55):
is quick to dismiss everything and throw it out. This
is one time that everybody got behind the story, which
we don't get right. People get get on board a
team or a player, and then as quickly as they
could possibly find a reason to jump off and go
against the crowd and get into hot take nonsense, we

(07:15):
do right, How fast did everybody decide they hated the
Warriors after they change basketball. This is great. Now basketball
sucks and it's your full na. I was into them
for eighteen months and now I'm now I'm done. After
that was the life cycle of it, right, that was
the gestation period of great they won, all right, I'm
tired of this. Go back to basketball where there's a
bunch of seven footersquatting around in the paint and we

(07:39):
slow the game down. No, that's it with Otani. I
think this was one where I don't think anybody got
to the negative side of it, you know, saying it's overhyped.
This is ridiculous because we hadn't seen it, because we
did get to go and celebrate. Look Mike Trout and
he looked like they were going to be the greatest
tag team this side of the road. Warriors back and

(08:00):
they're running rough shot across the AWA. I mean, this
is what it was. And then well, Trout couldn't stay
on the field, so it became the show, Heyo Tani show,
and as he began to pitch again coming off of
the Tommy John surgery and whatever, the legend grew with
every start. And then you have the World Baseball Classic

(08:20):
where he takes Mike Trout down right. They printed a
lot of cards. Tops does this on demand thing with
big events, and they did one of the Trout Otani
at Bat, which sold tens of thousands of copies. Trout
very proudly has several autographed by the two of them.
He can assure that that never happens again. Very genius
by him and building his baseball car collection. But those

(08:42):
are now selling for hundreds of dollars just because it's
such a mythical moment of them facing each other. But
now you have the gravity of how many meaningful games
is he gonna throw again? If ever? Yeah, maybe he can,
maybe he can close, maybe he can start again. But
how long until he's gonna get hurt? Right, what's the
shelf life is? Because he's been hurt twice now, this

(09:05):
is two big arm injuries in five years. And if
I could go ahead, if I could look ahead, say
let's go five years from now. Okay, so let's go
twenty twenty eight. The Olympics are here in Los Angeles.
It's ninety degrees every day, and Otani has had his time.
He's in, you know, nearing the end of his career,
or maybe the middle part of the end of his
career and he's never gotten back to pitching because his

(09:26):
arm couldn't take it. You are gonna see books and
series and specials and movies and documentaries about the last
three years of what Otani was able to do, and
it's going to get even more mythical than it is
right now. It is schedule and what he had to
do to be right and get right. And what I
don't want happening is what I've already seen in twenty

(09:47):
four hours, all these dopey articles blaming the Angels. You
know what, he's a grown ass man. Okay, if he
had discomfort, whether it was this injury or going back
to the fatigue multiple times, all those things, he's got
to say something, Right, He's not an eighteen year old
kid trying to please, you know, a high school coach

(10:08):
towards a state title or trying to earn a college scholarship.
You're a grown ass man. So to keep blaming the
Angels for trying to out and yes, they selfishly, you know,
they've got to be wise about it too. But everybody's
going into the poison pills and poison pens on the
Angels saying, well, they knew he wasn't right. He's like, well,

(10:29):
he knows his body. If he's saying, hey, I'm good
to go. No, you know what, We're gonna save you
for good. We're gonna put you in mothballs for good.
Like my mom all those years growing up. It's like,
we're saving those for good. Good never comes. Wear the
damn clothes. I never get to wear that shirt. No,
at least the bumps and bruises that he has had
were not related to this. It's not as if Otani

(10:52):
said a month ago, Hey my arm is hurting, the
angel saying we got bobbleheads. Man, we gotta make money,
gonna we may lose you in free agency. Get out there.
What did he have? He had cramps, which is just
you know, had cramping is she's had to come out
a game it's been hot. He had cramping in his fingers. Okay,
it's not that he had something wrong with his elbow.
The minute they felt that he had lost velocity, he

(11:13):
had diminished velocity, he came out of the game. It happens.
Every arm only has so many pitches in it, and
some pitchers are lucky because they are still throwing. Pitchers
from the thirty eight, thirty nine years old, and David
Robertson's trying to close for the Marlins right now. At
you know, at thirty nine, he was an he's a
an after thought for the Mets, turned into a really
good player. And some guys can't get out of their

(11:35):
twenties without arm problem. When when's Jacobs. Look at Look
at what I mean? He just announced his retirement. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, look it's right. I remember he ever know?
Was that four years ago? Yeah? He was the next
big thing. You were ruining the day of his arrival
because he was going to be in division, tormenting you
every fifth day. And then the guy hasn't been able
to be right, yeah the entire time. Sometimes with pictures,

(11:55):
it's just they can only withstand so much. And that's
what that's how I see o Ton is that he
was able to do it for three years, and now
he'll spend the next few years trying to get to
that point. Because look, he's not gonna suddenly say I'm
not pitching anymore. But can he really trust him to
be the lights out pitcher? Probably not. He's he ever
gonna be back to being the guy with just being realistic.
Probably not could he close? Yeah, maybe he can close, right,

(12:19):
maybe he can closed, and he can he can pitch
and throw one inning every other day and and if
you need him to close games, he can do it.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I could see that. But to get back to where
he is, I think that era is over. And that's
why another reason why last night was such a big deal,
because everything the guy did was a headline and we're
still gonna run through that. He's still gonna be a
big story, but we're not gonna it's not gonna be
where here's seven innings of one hit ball and then
and two home runs in the same game those days,

(12:47):
and it's it's I feel bad for sports fans, not
only just him, but sports fans because we're in the
moment and it's hard to it's hard to appreciate some
some kind of great news when you're seeing it just
because you're in the moment, because we see great things
all the time in sports, right, big, avan's big everything.
There's nothing that shocks us, right, there's nothing that here's

(13:08):
a big thing. Here's a big thing. If a guy
it's five home runs in the game, Wow, big deals.
And to see Otani, Wow, he's pitching and he's playing. Okay,
well it's nothing. It's nothing. That is the is the
shock value of oh my goodness, the entire world stops
for me. It's, oh, hey, this is wow, this is something.
I really appreciate what he's doing. But you don't really
appreciate and you don't do it until they're done playing.

(13:29):
And we're gonna, like, we'll look back at otud. You're
gonna have people who, let's say you and I grew
up in the in the mid seventies, early eighties, and
we would hear stories about Babe Ruth and Lou Garrig
and what they were able to do. And this is
baseball in the twenties and thirties. And Joe DiMaggio and
Ted Demagio and then look at I mean, Mickey Mannle
and Willie Mays. I mean that was their names were

(13:50):
just slung around all the time. Ernie Banks, yeah, who
retired just a couple of years before. I'm watching baseball
right and growing up in Chicago, and you jump ahead
fifty years from now when the Mets are done paying
Bobby Benea. You jump ahead fifty years from now to
twenty seventy four and fans will be talking about show.
Hey Otani, like we talked about Babe Ruth, like we

(14:11):
talked about guys like those absolute legs. Yeah, what was
funny though, I do for three years he pitched he
did that, but I do a weekly hit. I mean
one of the first people to give me some airtime
long ago in Baltimore. Good friend of mine always get
on for a couple of minutes. And they asked a
question right off the jump about Otani and residents. I go.
One of the things we pride ourselves on the shows,
we don't kick any can down the road. We were

(14:33):
doing a conversation about people moving the needle must see
TV or at least, Hey, I'm gonna scan, look if
there's any highlights box scores right coming off the Messy Game,
and we included O'tani on the list, and then literally
we're going to break in. It's like, oh oh no,
And we had to come right back and start talking

(14:54):
about it. But he was one of those guys that
moves the needle. And this is certainly a size to
make shit free agency history, all of that stuff wrapped
in one Twitter at how about a fresco Mike gets
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Mike Harbon. Just something to think about for Otani when
you look back and go, wow, it's not as surprising

(15:15):
as you think and appreciate what we got to see
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Speaker 2 (15:37):
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Speaker 1 (15:48):
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the NBA was headed towards a nice end of summer. Hey,

(16:10):
Damian Lillard finally talked about his trade request. Yes he
wants out. James Harden's getting fined. What's gonna happen with him,
and then all of a sudden, Yana is on a
takunpo decided to come out today and say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I staying a buck, yeah one hundred percent. Yeah yeah.
But here's the thing. Before I resign, I want to

(16:32):
see a title commitment. He won't sign his extension until
the Bucks give him whatever he wants in a quote
title commitment. Joining us now on the hotline, nobody better
to break it down, Fox Sports won NBA insider who
already has the trade offer from the Knicks to the

(16:53):
Bucks for your Honis it is Rick Buker? Rick, what's happening? Buddy?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Let's look at the dream, the off season dream right now?
Thank you, NBA. You're never quiet, You're never quiet.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
So you know what to make of the honest thing today?
Is is this just hey, a friendly little hey. Let's
make sure we're not just paying me and you're paying
me to put me out there and sell tickets. Or
is this Yanna saying, Hey, I'm going to go all
Joell and beat on you. If you don't really make
the team better, I'm going to demand I'm going tomand
to move on someplace.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, I wouldn't go quick that far, but it is.
It is certainly a shot across the bout to say, hey,
don't try to get frugal now, like we need to
keep the wheels roll, and I still want to play
for championships. I'm not settling for just one. And the
other part of it is it lets the rest of
the league know.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Like I've already.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Doubted whether Giannis would actually leave Milwaukee, but him making
this statement says it's a possibility. It's opening the door
and it allows other team now to create what their
best offers might be and to sort of set up
their teams with anticipation of we might have a shot

(18:11):
at Gianni Santetekumpo. So the old Giannis Yannis, he's just
growing up before our very eyes, that innocent.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Do I Greek free who came in and.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Was just happy to learn how to throw in American football.
And now if he's going straight to the Lebron James playbook,
you give me what I want? Or who knows, I
might not be saying so, I honestly don't. I don't
voulte him for that. I think he's doing it in

(18:45):
a reasonable way. I hope it doesn't become a talking
point the entire season. I think that's the one thing
I think he's been very good about saying, Hey, the
focus is always on winning and winning right now. It's
on my team, nothing else else. We'll see if he's
able to handle having put this out there, whether he

(19:05):
sticks to that and doesn't allow this to become a
referendum on the season, because you guys know what this does,
Like every time the Bucks have a losing streak, the
Bucks his supporting cat. He has a huge game and
they still lose. Like every time something like that happens,

(19:28):
there's going to be the urge by the media to say, hey,
you're honest, how you feeling. You know, we know what
you said, you know last summer. Are you looking harder
at that? Or what did you mean by that? So
that's I think he's always been. He's always struck me
as somebody who's very aware and intentional with everything that

(19:50):
he does. So I'll be very interested to see how
he handles this going forward.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So I'm in the trade machine. I got Randall and
Barrett off it. He says, add one more time clean
and actually auto it actually auto populated. Rand I didn't
even get to file his name.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
In that does it in every trade scenario that you
could possibly put in there, including teams that don't are
traits that don't involve the nets, it's just Julius Randall.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Or might we suggest Julius Randy.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I just put the cursor in the in the in
the line, and it suggests Julius Randall.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
We know that you would like to get Damian Millard,
but perhaps you could really get interest you in a
little Julius Randall.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I keep piping in Lillard and its to Randall. I
don't understand, Rick, you have no idea how much brain
power I mean outside of his jets jets jets nonsense.
The amount of brain power to try to offload Julius
Randall the last three months is really overtaxing a man's
brain over here.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Now, wasn't it. It wasn't that long ago that you
were trying to convince me that Julius Randall was all
that and some and.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
And that was only me trying to help your nixt
Power Forward podcast. That's all. That was all. Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I was the tea.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I was just trying to help you there, Rick,
That's all I certainly.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I certainly appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
All about click I got it.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
That's uh. It wasn't very helpful, but thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I can say there was a quote trade request and
I would just prefer not to speak on the Trailblazers
unquote Damian Lillard not quite as uh you know Ford
and as James Harden. He wants to keep his one
hundred grand, but we're not on this road. Is there
a possibility that any other team exists, that this becomes

(21:59):
a reality or is it really Miami or bust?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, I can tell you there are other teams that
are interested and have tried to explore whether he would
consider going someplace else, and they have been told it's Miami.
It's like they say, well, can we get on the list?
Now there's no there's no list. It's Miami. That's that's it.
So now the problem here right now is and I

(22:28):
think Lillard is doing this correctly as opposed to our
friend in Philadelphia in that look, you still have to
work something out with Joe Cronin and and maybe the
biggest differences like Dame Pardon doesn't have a reputation to
damage in this situation, right, Jim really very much does.
He does not want to lose his image as his

(22:52):
brand all of that, because it's it's very lucrative for him,
and he wants to go out the right way. So
I don't think you're going to see him trash the
Portland trail Blaze. There's the problem that I'm hearing is
no one knows exactly, like what are they asking for,
Like other teams can't even get into the bidding because
they don't know what it is that the Blazers want

(23:14):
to get for Loward and so. And pat Riley meanwhile,
is if he knows as of right now, he's bidding
against himself. So he's not going to be throwing anything
out there. He's just gonna wait until Portland finally, you know,
presumably comes to him and we're going to the training
camp or we're going to the season or whatever, and

(23:35):
they finally decide, hey, like we need to get something done.
What can we do? What can we construct? And I
would I would hope that they would start on that
sooner rather than later. But by all indications, I have
not heard that there's anything close or that it's really definitive,

(23:56):
like the Blazers are saying, we have to have this.
We have to get this in order to make a deal.
So until that happens, it's going to be really difficult
for anybody to f fill their expectations.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
If I said the over under for teams that are
gonna be in this trade when it's all said and done,
and I put the over under at five, would you
take the over or you take the under?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
You No, Harry is Harry Is.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's floating ahead of Julius.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
One of them will be the Nicks. One of the
players will be Julius Randa. I'm game.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You gotta make the money, matt Rics. Look, I'll be
honest with I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest.
You know where I really am. Here's what I gotta
get right with. I gotta get right with the fact
that when the Sixers finally do trade Joel Embiid to
the Knicks, they're going to say, you gotta take Harden too.
And I'm wondering if that's gonna be worth it getting
Embiid if it means we have to take Harden as well.

(24:53):
That's kind of what I spent a lot of time
thinking about.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
No, it's not. It's not. What you're thinking is what
if you were taking embad and Harden, if Julius Randall
was in the deal. That's what you're thinking about. That's
what you're thinking about. And the answer would be yes
without questions, because right now you just want to be
rid of Julius Randall. So they could uh yeah, yeah

(25:16):
they could be. But I'm trying to remember where Theo
Fenson is playing these days, but I'm pretty sure you
take him for Julius Randall.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
How's this going to end for Harden? And he says, I'm.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Getting astray from me? How sorry?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
He's like, what wait? Why am I getting text from
my friends? Wait? Rick Buker said, what about me? Wow?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Miami's Miami's like Gidanna's. Did you come out and come
out of retirement? We probably can trade you to New
York for Julius Randall. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
How's this? How's this going to end for Harden? Moury
says he's staying we look forward to it. He says,
I'm never going to play for a team that has
done Let me repeat that, I will never play for
Darryl Mory's team again. How does this end for Harden.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Now, oh, well, so I've heard some conflicting information. One
is there's still the belief that eventually something gets done
with the Clippers because it's the only place that he
wants to go and they have they have assets. It's
not going to be what it's not what Philadelphia's gonna want.

(26:20):
And I think you talked about this last time I
was on and it really hasn't changed. Like Daryl Moury,
this is the pinch for Daryl Morey because Daryl Murray's
demonstrated offense him and that he's willing to wait until
he gets the deal that he wants. This is the
pinch is we know that James Harden can be shall
I say, volatile, that he's willing to burn bridges to

(26:43):
get out of a situation. If he decides in order
for me to get out of here or get Darryl
Moury out of here, I'm going to tell the world.
I'm going to tell the NBA what Darryl Morey promised
me that has me so upset that I haven't received it.

(27:08):
That is the nuclear button that Daryl has to be
careful about, because if it comes down to Darryl saying, hey,
they promised me when I signed the two year deal
with the one year out, they promised me a max
bale or they pro whatever it might be. That if

(27:29):
he goes public with that, or he tells the NBA that,
then we're looking at a suspension for Darryl, a huge fine,
massive fine for cap circumvention. So that's where this game
of chicken gets very interesting. Darryl. I don't know that
Darryl necessarily has the wherewithal to be as patient as

(27:52):
he has been in the past.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Wow, think about it, James Harden, with all the clubs,
if Daryl ever went out with him, he might have
all sorts of that he told him, thinking they're hanging
out as boys.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, I just you know, look, Harden's not the
guy that I would hang out with and then get
sideways with because my I just first of all, if
I'm hanging out with him, I know what we're doing
and I probably don't want that public. But yeah, no,

(28:23):
in all, in in all fairness, in in uh, in
all honesty, like those guys were really really close, amazingly
close for management and player. But to my knowledge, uh, Darryl,
Daryl was very much a straight shooter, So I don't want,
I don't want to put any indu window out there
that that Daryl was hitting the clubs knowing no, no, no,

(28:46):
sure that that did not happen.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Right, but just the fact that they would, at least
from the outside looking in, Rick, you know that that
they'd had this relationship. So maybe it was more more
conversation about behind the scenes, what could transpire and whatever
that gets taken as a promise versus just spitballing things.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
But here's and here's the thing to be clear, like
this is normal business. This is this is business as
usual with the NBA. I mean, if you don't think
the Kyrie Irving knew that he was going to get
that three year extension when he was traded to Dallas,
then you really haven't been paying attention. And I actually

(29:31):
do not blame James Harden whatsoever for being upset that
he had to opt into the final year that he
did not get a hefty extension, because everybody can look
at it and say, hey, you know what, they they underperformed.
He underperformed, He had a terrible game seven, et cetera,
et cetera. He led the league and assists the average

(29:51):
twenty plus he had two forty point games in the
playoffs that pushed the Boston Celtics to seven games, played
more players games than Joel mb did, and he's getting
paid less than Joel Embiid and Tobias Harris and twenty
five other players in the NBA. And if you look around,

(30:12):
Anthony Davis just signed the Richard extension? Is Anthony Davis?
Are we any more confident that he's going to play
the next three years than we are James Harden of
Chris Middleton, another guy signed a huge time, Kyrie Irving, Like,
we can look at James Harden and say, well, the
way he played and he was disappointing in the postseason,

(30:32):
and he doesn't deserve an extension. Kyrie Irby went to
Dallas and played them out of the playoffs and got
an extension. So we can look at it through a
prison and say, well, James Harden isn't worth X. But
the reality is we could say that about a dozen
guys who signed big extensions or contracts this summer.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick Buker,
Fox Sports One NBA. Check out the Amabile podcast all
about James Harden how he should be mad. The link
is right there on rick Twitter page. It's at Rick
Buker on the Ball Podcast. Rick as always, buddy, appreciate
your time, my friend. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Have fun, my pleasure, guys.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Thanks Rick. All right, great stuff there from Rick Buker,
the Nuclear Button. I'm gonna tell the NBA what you
promised me that I didn't get. I tell you, looky icy,
I'll send you to the Knicks if you know. Let's
find out what's trending right now in the wide world
of sports, as Steve de Sager has your fantasy update
for CFL Thursday, that has Winnipeg potentially scoring fifty tonight

(31:39):
against the Alouettes. And this was a close game at halftime.
What's going on? It was? It was was twenty to
seven second half team when that speech best team in
the season are.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
The appropriately named Blue Bombers are going to be nine
and two. Apparently they're shutting out their opponents, the Montreal
Alouettes in the second half. For those in the CFL fantasy,
of course, it's quarterback Zach Colaros from the University of
Cincinnati for Winnipeg. He has four touchdowns three interceptions, so
he's filling the statue.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yes, it's good positive and negative category. If you lose
one touchdown full for the three interceptions, but you get
the three touchdowns, it's fine. That's true.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
In Canadian football. Do you get the six points for
touchdown or four in fantasy touchdown?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Canadian football Fantasy it's eight points for a touchdown and
six points for an interception. So it's very difficult. You know,
really don't want to throw picks. I'm already lost. Don't
want to throw them.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
As for the late ball game that's going on on
FS one, Arizona going for a fifth straight win. They've
just scored to take a one nothing lead on the
Reds through seven and the starting pitcher for the Diamondbacks
ten and five, Merril Kelly, has struck out twelve with
no walks. Tonight seven innings, he's throwing a one hitter
against Cincinnati again, Diamondbacks going for their fifth straight win.

(32:50):
The Brewers have already won five straight. They're off tonight.
They host the Padres tomorrow. Brewers are first in the
NL Central, three games over the Cubs. The Cubs and
Reds hold the final NL wildcard spots right now. Cubs
got a ten inning victory at Pittsburgh five to four
Oakland and eight to five winner at the White Sox.
Baltimore's home game had a rain delay at the start

(33:10):
this evening for about an hour. Eventu the Orioles beat
Toronto and pitcher Jose Burrios five to three. Blue Jay's
now a game and a half out of the final
AL Wildcard. Minnesota came back to beat Texas seven to five.
Rangers have lost seven in a row. They hit three
solo homers first four innings, but allowed five home runs
and lost the game. Boston today won seventeen to one

(33:33):
at Houston. Houston and Idol Seattle are one game back
at first place Texas in the AL West. Victories today
for Tampa Bay and Washington. The Dodgers took two at Cleveland,
six to one and nine to three. That opener was
completion of last night's game, which was suspended by rain
after two innings. Milkie Bets went five for five in
that contest. Cleveland is second in the AL Central, now

(33:55):
six games behind Minnesota. There were two NFL exhibitions tonight.
Pitsburg finished three to zero in the preseason dominating the
first st half at Atlanta, it was twenty four to
Zhings second quarter twenty four zip the final Steelers with
five sacks on defense. Indianapolis wins at Philadelphia tonight twenty
seven to thirteen. Rookie Anthony Richardson just six of seventeen

(34:16):
passing seventy eight yards if he did have five carries
thirty eight yards rushing for the Colts. The NFL's final
preseason game this month will be on Fox TV Sunday night,
Houston at New Orleans. Cutdown Day is Tuesday. Broncos wide
receiver Jerry Judy could miss several weeks with a hamstring injury.
The Cardinals acquired quarterback Josh Dobbs from Cleveland and US

(34:37):
soccer legend Landon Donovan has been a coach for the
San Diego Loyal in the USL, a second tier league.
That team will see cease operations after this year, their
fourth season they've been playing at the University of San Diego.
MLS has already said that San Diego is getting its
thirtieth Major League Soccer team in their standings when MLS

(34:58):
expands in twenty ti twenty five.

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Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Coming up next,
we get into that NFL story we promised a few
minutes ago. Are we seeing one player we thought was
gonna get traded now get pulled off the trade block?
That's next right here, Fox.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice a week, every
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Speaker 1 (36:04):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my bass
friend Mike Harmon, Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios,
Oh where it was just a day ago, looked like
Trey Lance is gonna get traded. Didn't win the backup
job with the forty nine ers. It's Sam Darnold. And look,

(36:24):
we've talked about this for a long time. We told
you four and a half months ago, Trey Lance is
gonna wind up getting traded. It's not gonna happen for
him in San Francisco. He's going to need some kind
of change of scenery. It's gonna happen. And then GM
John Lynch today was asked about the situation regarding Trey Lance, tod, Hey,
are you trading him? Is he going? What's gonna happen?
And this is what the Niners GM had to.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Say, We're very happy with Trey. That's probably the most
likely option has said.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
He's here.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
If we could find a landing spot for Trey that is,
you know, is a really good one for him, and
you know works for our organization. That's not something we
turn a blind eye to. But that's not where our
focus is right now, you know, I think our focus
is on Trey getting back here and us being the
best football team.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
See this is this really pisses me off. We want
to make sure it's a good landing spot for him.
This really, you know, where's a bad landing spot in
San Francisco. You know he's obviously not part of your future.
You have given him the chance. Look, it's not like
they've done him wrong. They've give him the chance. He
couldn't stay healthy. Now there's gonna be some other teams
that will say, all right, maybe with a change of scenery,

(37:29):
a chance to stay healthy, out of the spotlight, he
can regain his career because he's still a really young quarterback. Right,
but here the forty No, no, what weird? What's best
for our team if we can find the position a
place for trade to go. No, do the guy a
favor and trade him. Let do do something that helps him,
because it doesn't help him to sit there behind two
other guys that he's never gonna play ahead of and

(37:51):
and and suddenly he's going to start his career again
that way. No, it's not gonna happen, really, because you're
really telling me that, boy, if brock Perty falls on
his face and Sam Darnold turns back into Sam Arnold. Hey,
guess what, Trey Lan's gonna be the starting quarterback of
the forty nine ers next year. No, it's not happening.
He's done. Do the right thing if you really want
to do the right thing, because I hear John Lynch
say that, and it makes my skin crawl. We're gonna

(38:11):
do what's best for the team. This is a third
string quarterback. This is a kid that you brought along.
You tried. It just hasn't worked out. He hasn't said anything,
he hasn't made demands. He's had a pretty good head
on his shoulders the entire time when you kept sticking
with Jimmy Garoppoli, kept doing a lot of different things.
Do the right thing. This is not somebody that's gonna
help your program. It's not somebody that's gonna help you.
Give me this. Oh, do what's best for the team.

(38:32):
And if I'm a player, I think boyan go to
San Francis, they just bury me. Why would I sign there?
If things don't work out, they'll just bury me. Let
the kid go. Make a trade you will get Let
me tell you, John Lynch, me to you, you can
trade and get a six round pick. Nobody will care.
Nobody cares because you're a super Bowl caliber team. You're
in the NFC championship last year. Nobody cares who plays

(38:54):
quarterback as long as your team is good. I know
you're embarrassed because it was your first big move and
you traded it to get him and it didn't work out.
Guess what. That's football, It happens. I know you feel
like everybody's gonna be on the message boards and saying
they want your head. They're coming for you because you
made a nobody. You found a quarterback in brock Perty. Yeah,
you found in the seventh round of the draft. Congratulations,

(39:15):
he's your guy. But that every other move is work.
You brought in McCaffrey, you did all this other stuff.
I mean, this is this is one misfire and mild philosophy.
It still goes back for any team. If you think
you found your guy, go get him. And if it
doesn't work out, generally you're gonna walk the plank because
you're tied to that now. Some teams will be stubborn
and give you another chance or forgiving, I should say.

(39:37):
And in other cases this really has no ill effects
because your team is still really good when it looked
really nice when some of the guys drafted directly after
Trei Lance. Sure, but we've already talked about that. In
this case, the do what's best for him, like, well,
that's just lip service, and all of that came back to, hey,
we don't want to just give the guy away or

(39:57):
cut him, so please come to it. I do like
the fact that given their injury history and the way
they've had to run through quarterbacks and get guys up
and prepared, that a lot of Tom Brady gifts were
making the rounds today. Yeah, ye, Brady's gonna come back,
not even in a year. He'll play for the Niners
before Trey Lance starts with the forty nine ers. Yeah,
I think you go down. What is it, Brandon Allen,

(40:19):
remember he's still there too. Oh sure, but it's a
final Ken Dorsey is still there. Ye, al those that's nicely.
Giovanni Carmazzi is still there. They're all there. They go
back to the class of two thousands actually going telling
you do the right thing. I really that just pisses
me off. When I see John I just have to
wonder in that locker room, is this a distraction at
any point of like, would you just let the guy go?

(40:41):
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