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for playing that open you know you know again the
Mets can't have nice things. Not only did they lose
to the Yankees tonight and my dad is texting me
like we're best friends.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
All of a sudden, Hey, you catch the game? Catch
up like, oh, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Like bling bling bling. Clay Holmes is now going to
be out a long time with a fractured fibula. G
with a line drive, and now he's gonna be He
stays in the game but comes out fractured fibula. Now
he's gonna be out a long time. The Mets can't
have nice things, They just can't.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
You got ewing, You got a couple of wins and
a little bit of excitement. Yeah, and there you go.
And then I was all excited, right because I mean,
now we'll go bottom of the ninth. You had the
Cubs and then the White Socks, and they get their
affairs in order there in the city. So the first
time in eighteen years they've played with both teams with
a winning record except during the COVID years. How crazy
(01:49):
is that?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean, oh, look, you you have the the Central
Divisions or Lady or the Tiger in both the in
both the that's not good.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Ten to five year final the Cubs double.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But you're saying, hey, yeah, well the National League, that's
a pretty good division. The American League in the Central, Yeah,
that's kind of the opposite of the National League Central.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Okay, we have that.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, down ten four, you know, hit a home run
in the ninth.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, so yeah once. Yeah. Now, at least that trade
is not that big of.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You spent a lot of time and effort trying to
sell America on him.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, and it's as as it turns out, things aren't
working out for anybody in that deal after today, because
the Edwin Diaz story, it's I don't even know where
to begin, because there's so many things that don't make
sense with this story.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Okay, Uh, the genesis.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Of this Today, very early on in the day, there's
a story Edwin Diaz is involved in illegal cock fighting
in his native Puerto Rico.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Story comes out USA today. I did.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
A couple of the sources have it that he has
been posting links to cock fighting since twenty sixteen, quotes
from him saying that in the ring cock fighting ring
is where he feels most at home, and this has
been a part of Diaz's life now apparently for at
least the last ten years. There's been no comment from
Major League Baseball yet and Diaz saying I'm you know,
(03:23):
the quote attributed to him, you know what we think
is him saying, I'm glad it's legal here. And when
this story came out. I said, there's no way this
is true. This has got to be something that's AI made.
There's no way. But yet, as the day went on
and you saw more sources having it, and there's so much.
There's only one thing I can tell you about about
Edwin Diaz, the only one thing I can tell you.
(03:45):
But the rest of it, I really it nothing makes sense. Okay,
First of all, go back to the fact that Edwin
Diaz has been There's been pictures of him on his
Facebook page, smiling with family and his friends, promoting community activities,
more than one hundred and fifty pictures of roosters, cockfighting clubs,
(04:07):
breeding facilities. One picture shows roosters packed in the cardboard boxes.
Their heads are poking out of cutout holes above small
feeding dishes. There's twenty six reels featuring roosters, some fighting
in organized matches. Others are shown on what looks to
be a breeding facility where Diaz is holding roosters while
promoting upcoming cock fights in multiple videos. Okay, this is
(04:30):
all USA today. Other sources have this. My first thought
is that and this one I can't believe is that
he's not tried to hide it, right, this one doesn't
make sense. This has been out there for ten years
on his Facebook page and we get it now.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
No, that's it. And even then that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
How does nobody know about this or or did the
Mets and the Dodgers both go about it and thought, well,
no one's saying anything because you know, okay, so everything
is fine. Mets could give contract extensions, Dodgers can sign
him and give him bunch of money. Like, how does
nobody know about this? This has been ten years and
it's not been hidden. I mean, it's on the guy's
(05:10):
Facebook page and still no unhappy Mets fan after he
blows a save in the ninth inning posts this link saying,
hey Edwin Diaz, Yeah, here's a guy blew a save
and he's also you know, he promotes cock fighting, which
is illegal, like Jose not once Like no, no, wait, dude,
he's not.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
He's not my problem. Now he's your problems. He is
your no kidding. Yeah, I don't want to be in
the wild.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't want to be in it like that, Mike,
I can't under It blows me away that this has
gone on for ten years and nobody has known about it,
like That's what makes me think there's there there's something
else coming here. Right, it's gonna tell us that this
is not a real story, because ten years and these
quotes from him just just not even oh, hey, I
you know I used to do it, but then I
walked away from it, Like this has been the while
(05:55):
he's been a superstar closer.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
In Major League Baseball, Like I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But what surprises me more the fact that he's owning
up to it and saying yeah, I love it, or
that ten years has gone by before we found out
by however randomly found we found out today.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, it's it's curious, right. The USA Today Sports says
they've founded these things on social media and now make
them public. You also have the Ortiz Brothers, a couple
of top jockeys in horse racing that that are part
of this as well, and then they trace it back.
There's a Facebook post from February second and the fourth,
(06:31):
and there's a tournament going on and the ad says, quote,
the Puerto Rico Cockfighting Club invites all enthusiasts to a
special match and a grand tribute to one of our
island's greatest sources of Pride a tribute to the Puerto
Rican star and cock fighter Edwin Sugar Diaz. Ha's got
a picture of him. And then there was another dog. Yes,
(06:53):
and then there's another story published in March tenth and
he's standing there in the pit and it says, quote,
it's a pastime. I thought since I was a child,
it's legal in Puerto Rico. Thank god, otherwise I wouldn't
be here unquote, which it was until twenty nineteen, but
a federal ban came over all US territories in all
(07:13):
fifty states. So they're saying the fights are over four
hundred years of history, tradition, whatever term you want to
put on it. Five years in prison and a fine,
and the maximum penalty is one year in prison for
a spectator. For some participants, it's five years in a fine.
(07:33):
For a spectator, it's a prison. It's one year in
prison at a fine. So to this point, the Artiz
brothers did not respond to requests for comments just yet
or a message left for their agent, and to this
point nothing further from the Dodgers Major League Baseball. I
did see that they have Edwin Diaz bobblehead Day scheduled
for July twenty ninth.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
At present, not happening, not happening. Well, what do you
think about this? Frostburg? And I know you want really quick.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
He already did his sentence. He played for the Mets
for how.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Many I mean, jail, He's already been punished. He's already
been punished.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Get in jail, dude, I mean, I mean did mean, no, dude,
this is not about the Mets, Like I feel bad enough.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That is time. Man, He's this is nothing to see here.
He's a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Man, he is a bad guy again. Well, look, he
was a bad guy when when the Mets had him.
I'm not saying he wasn't. I don't know how any
anybody didn't know. I mean, I don't know how did
no one know that for ten years?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And also how is it promoted when it's been illegal
for six years in Puerto Rico, Like, I mean, it's
been it's been illegal. This is not Hey, it's illegal
in the United States, but it's legal in Puerto Rico.
It's been illegal in Puerto Rico for six years and
it's still being promoted.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well, but like promoting it, I mean you go running
around social media. I'm sure you could find of a
lot a lot of illicit activities if you search and
if you want to right, and this goes back to
a larger question on authorities and deciding that you're enforcing
and what you're not.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's dark web stuff though, man.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
No, not even though that's not.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh hey, guess what. Here's a closer wearing his Dodger uniform.
We're gonna say he's gonna be or he's promoting whatever champions.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Part part of this was also during a day off
during Puerto Rico's run during the World Baseball Classic. I mean, yeah,
he took he took a day off, took time during
his day off to unwine with one of his hobbies,
cock fighting.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, it's a hobby. It's a hobby. I mean it's
it's well, I mean, look, I used to collect you know.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
The nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight, seventy eight was where
they did this a big on the tops baseball cards.
On the back they would have the guys hobbies and
what they did, you know, favorite books or movies or whatever.
And there were a number of guys where cock fighting
was listed as their favorite hobby.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
This is look, you know, the thing is is that
because it goes on. However, it was illegally look legal
in Puerto Rico for a long time, but then the
last few years not like I can't believe we didn't
even get from Edwin Diaz that yeah when I was younger,
but I realized how wrong it was when I got older.
And it's still you guys still got to be responsible.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
For your actions. But understanding that when you're younger.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, at least he's moving away from it now or
when it became illegal that he moved away from. But no,
an off day at the WBC and he's got yeah,
here world banks, we have off day. Here, we got
we got cock fights going on. Like he's a bad guy, man,
like he is a real I mean, this is Michael Vick.
This is I mean, you know, there's no difference between
dogs and roosters.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I mean, this is awful, man, this is absolutely terrible.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Well, here's a quote from this USA Today article talking
about a rooster coming back aggressively. And I know you've
all seen it on social media today. Maybe you chuckled
and then you felt bad about it. But talking about
it being the entrance music for Diaz's rooster when Narco
began to play, Well, my rooster went down dead and
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got up to fight, doing what my roosters know how
to do finish fights. He did what I do when
I come into pitch in the ninth to close out
the game. Unquote. Is that an actual quote from the rooster? No,
I was wow. I mean the rooster Griffin was a
great prelim wrestler back in the day. He didn't finish
many fights triumphantly. But that's Diaz talking about one of
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his roosters that he taught him how to be a closer.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I mean, really, that's just I can't get over this.
Like there's so many things that just don't make sense.
I mean, dude, here's the one thing I know. He's
not pitching again in twenty twenty six. He's done, he's
got the he's injured. MLB is not gonna look at
this and say, oh, yeah, No, he's involved in the
legal activity and he's been promoting it, and he knows
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it's illegal, and he's been promoting it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
This is bad, man, This is bad. This is this
is taking part in the deaths of animals.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Well, here they did something positive. In twenty two twenty four.
According to this article, WAPA TV in Puerto Rico said
that Diaz and al Alexis Diaz, along with a Regaeton singer,
they organize the charity event to help a kid suffering
from muscular dystrophy with a cock fighting charity.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Not He's not gonna pitch again this year. There's no way.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now what now major League Baseball is gonna have to
do an investigation. Obviously, Uh, he's injured for a while.
Obviously not expected to come back for another couple of months,
maybe the end of July into August for Daz. But
there's no majorly basical gonna say. You know what, dude,
you gotta just stay away while we figure this thing out.
And I don't know if he plays again, Like this
is this is this is awful, Like this is just
(12:41):
the beginning of this story. And and I don't know
how his avenue back to Major League Baseball is from this,
Like this is not I you know, we hey, it's
not something where hey, someone puts it out on social
media and it was something that he did twelve or
thirteen years ago, and all right, it embarrasses you for a.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Little bit, but then move on path no.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
This is him again actively promoting it on an off
day at the WBC, like, dude, but it is illegal,
like he can't even he can't even hang on to
the well. You know what, in Puerto Rico, it's no, no, no, no,
no no. It's still been illegal.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
But that's the point to reiterate I got this and
to give it a bigger, bigger stage. Here is the
fact that you've had a lot of politicians and leaders
in Puerto Rico who fought for its retention and to
resist the federal ban because of the hundreds of years
of traditions of these clubs and gatherings in cities and
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towns that they're trying to establish that hey, this is
part of our way of life, which means you could
have all of these different social media and news reports
and not necessarily have to worry about agents and police
coming in. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying
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that that seems to be where this is headed.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
In Porto Rico. In Puerto Rico, i'd agree with you.
But major League Baseball, baseball's a home. Major League Baseball
is different. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
He's not pitching again in twenty twenty six. Major League
Baseball's gonna say, dude, you need to sit back while
we figure out what's going on here. Right, We got
to you gotta be on the exempt list, and we're
going to figure out exactly where to go with you.
At the end of the season, we get in and
see exactly what you've been taking part of and what
what you've been doing in all of this. We're launching
a big investigation, like his career is at stake, James.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
On the Mets.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
But stop, but go back, goes back to the the
larger point of any workplace, a home relationship. You know
you can get away and then you know, you push
the boundaries or whatever, and it's not an issue until
it is right. So this could have been in hiding
in plain sight the whole time. But since nobody ever
made a big issue about it, all right, it just
(14:53):
goes on. He made in jail for seven years. Stop
Major League Baseball, the NBA, NFL, whatever else. Look, the
other way is not you know, isolated to a single
sport business whatever I mean. People will will try to
press whatever advantage they think they have, thinking nobody's watching.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, and now that it's out now good luck, because
now again he's not gonna pitch Smith at all.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
He's he's not gonna pitch extra. He's done.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
He went to a couple of extras.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I don't know if he's going to really I don't
know if I can tell he's gonna pitch again.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Dude, this is bad. I mean, I'm telling you, this
is bad. Jerry.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh wow, the Little Jerry Seinfeld episode does not age well.
Oh by the way, that is not age well, does
not exit. How about a Fresca exit swollen dome. We
got more of the Edwin Diaz story coming up, but
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everybody's potential favorite trade target in the NBA off season?
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things had gotten a little bit better for the timber Wolves.
They had cut the lead to thirteen for halftime. A
really crazy free throw, a couple of free throw from
Anthony Edwards when he gets fouled about a million feet
from the hoop that they allowed.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Hey, it was in the active shooting.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
But it has been all San Antonio to start the
third quarter on a ten to four run. Their lead
is back out to nineteen. Steph Castle doing most of
the damage right now. I mean, Wenby's having a very
Wemby night. Fifteen points, five rebounds, couple of assists, three blocks,
but Steph Castle twenty two to eight boards, four assists,
and it is a big eighty four to sixty five
(18:29):
lead for the Spurs right now, eight and a half.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
To go in the third court.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, it's one of those when we had these Wenby
conversations where this is the thing that will keep the
larger narrative about greatness to kind of muted to some
is that he doesn't always have to take over, right,
So the stat line is not always gonna be gaudy
because you've got all these other ancillary, secondary, tertiary or
(18:55):
whatever term you want to use parts and the equity
that they all have in the game. So he's not
gonna score thirty five a night. He's not gonna pile
up all those massive numbers necessarily to push over the top.
But you see how much he affects the game because
I know how a Namorage you were with that defensive
effort earlier when he used the force and Jedi mind tricks.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I mean, look, here's.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
All you need to know about the Spurs, and we
talk about how good they are even without Wemby, right,
people forget how good de Aaron Fox is. Steph Look
I told you I take Steph Castle number one overall
in the draft, who turned out to be right about
that and has two thumbs this guy. But all you
need to know is, look, Dylan Harper is the number
two overall pick in the draft, and the guy can
barely get on the floor.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
He's the fourth guy coming off the bench.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Now he plays a decent amount of minutes a night
and obviously, hey, being able to come in as a
young player and it's a real luxury.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
But you take a guy number two overall, you're okay,
You're gonna be a huge contributor right away.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And it's like, yeah, we got a lot of dudes, man,
uh yeah, you know, hey, hey Dylan, we love you, man,
we love you.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
You're terrific.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But yeah, you're gonna you're gonna play about twenty minutes
and not number two overall.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It's kind of weird, but kind of excited. But I mean,
that's that's the fun of roster building. Why they're changing
up some of the rules in terms of your ability
to sit in that top five perch multiple years in
a role barring a team being dumb and giving up
their draft choice and then well stinking to the level
that you can go and win or be near the
(20:24):
top of the lottery. But yeah, you talk about that
just the core of this roster. You got three guys
that are what twenty three and younger.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Good luck, I'd be really they are they. I mean, look,
Wemby has become the best player in the game. And
it's happened. We flipped the switch and it was there
I told you to be there by the end of
the year, and now we're at the point we're gonna
be watching the Spurs win a championship every three years
like we did with Duncan and and and Genobili and Parker.
Like that's kind of where the Spurs are at. Man,
(20:54):
hopefully the Knicks can can sneak one in this year.
All right, So we'll lot more in this game coming
up in a few minutes. But again, still a big
by the Spurs, however, Man, you talk about shots fired
at Jannis and Doc Rivers.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Miles Turner, who was.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
The big addition to the Milwaukee Bucks this year, coming
off that big Pacers run to the finals last year.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Turner had a great playoff.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
He was gonna be the one guy that was coming
in that was gonna, in theory, helped the Bucks get
to that next level.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You know that Yiannis has been unhappy, fighting back and
forth with the team. They're gonna trade him, They're gonna
try to trade him. You know, the soap opera that's
been going.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Well in the last month, right, the fight of I'm
healthy or you know how much was posturing versus reality
and trying to get back onto the court, and recently
we had kind of buried as a late night news
dump that the NBA said nothing to see here in
terms of how the Bucks handled Yannis his injury and
operations shutdown.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So without that getting that information, hey, we nothing to
see here. No, we just had to wait for Miles
Turner to go on the game recognized Game pot cast
with Brianna Stewart, and two of the biggest things he
talked about were Giannis and Doc Rivers. Let's do Doc
Rivers first, because this is just so much fun right now.
Doc Rivers, who now is you know walked away got
(22:13):
kicked upstairs with the Milwaukee Bucks. You know you knew
it was gonna happen because Doc is just not coached
very well. He's not been a great coach, but yet
finds a way to be someone that, hey.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Stays employed a year after year. Now I think that's over.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Now, I think it's absolutely done, and either he's on
TV or he's just gonna be some kind of consultant.
But how bad did things get with Doc Rivers this year?
Why did Milwaukee fall apart as much as they did.
Here's Miles Turner talking about how Doc Rivers allowed everybody
to just do whatever they wanted to over the course
of the season.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Doc Rivers, he didn't find anybody ever, So guys were
late all the time, Guys were, you know, showing up
the film whenever they want to show up. Guys were
missing meetings, Like it was one of the crazy things
I person ever experience. But any other team I've been on,
guy's got fine, and there was a sense of order
and a sense of understanding. So yeah, you're lates to
the plane, fine, You're lates to treatment, fine, you're lates
(23:07):
to film, fine. But I personally did not experience that
last year for the first time in my career.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It's it should be noted Jason that reminder from the
Brad Paisley song The Internet is Forever. Game recognized. Game
tried to delete this, the Internet said not so fast.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
He said that at one point where he goes, why
I'm not getting to the plane until an hour after
we're supposed to leave because I know other guys aren't
getting there and Giannis is on this list. But let's
deal with Doc first for a second, Like, why am
I getting there on time? We're not gonna leave for
another hour, like this is so on brand for Doc Rivers,
Like I mean, it's just because Doc Rivers has always
(23:50):
been the you know, I want everybody to like me.
I don't want to have to find anybody. I want
I watch you just play well and like me. And
that's all it is. I'm not gonna say it's your fault.
I'm not gonna say it's no one's false all it.
Hey can't blame it. I'm gonna give my son a
lot of money. Oh, you know, gonna gonna gonna do
all I can. Hey, I love all the players. Just
I'm like the the Adam Silver of coaches, where I
(24:12):
don't want to do anything.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I just want you to like me.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I just want to be employed and be someone that
the media talks to and has a great reputation. Like
that's Doc Rivers like and that, and this is completely
on brand not finding anybody, right. There is one report
near the end of the year that Doc had to
have a huge meeting with the team saying, hey, you
guys are really you know, none of you are treating
the sport the right way and the team the right way.
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But if you're not finding anybody and you're allowing people
to come late to practice and film. They're not gonna
listen to you, man, They're not gonna respect you like Doc.
And this is where I'm gonna I'm gonna flip on
you and say, this is where I gotta give Doc
Rivers credit on things, man, because Doc Rivers has done
the best job of self public relations more than anybody
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I have seen in sports. Somehow, after year after year
of failing in the playoffs, despite the fact that he
has incredibly talented rosters. A guy had hall The guy
had three Hall of Famers in Boston. He won once, right, okay,
one once? I go back to all right, three Hall
of Famers he won once. You had some of the
best players in the NBA, with the Clippers, guys that
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are going to the Hall of Fame. You couldn't get
past the second round of the playoffs. You went and
you coached the best player in basketball for the last
couple of years in the Eastern Conference, and you just
got worse.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
They fired their last.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Head coach who won a championship, and you came in
and all he did was do worse, and they kept him. Anyway,
there is nobody thats I don't know what he does.
I don't know how he's been able to do it,
how he's been able to stay so employed for so long,
But he has gotta be the best guy at self
public relations ever, because somehow he still found a way
to get employed despite the fact that he underachieved with
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teams with some of the greatest talent in the world.
I mean, think about this with with Paul Pierce and
Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen, and then to the Clippers
where it was Chris Paul and Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan,
all these great playing and then you go from there
to Giannis, who's the best player in the NBA, and
you can't even get it with the last that group,
you can't even get out of the second round of
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the playoffs. You can't even get in the playoffs if
you're coaching, and you're coaching Giannis, like, I don't know
how he stayed employed, but man, I got all kinds
of mad respect for it. However he was able to
do that all of these years.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Man, that's doff.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He's so incredibly overrated, and he's a bad playoff coach.
He's a good regular season coach. I'll give him that right,
he's a fifty win guy. When you have all that talent,
you should win fifty games. Bad coach in the playoffs,
couldn't achieve anything despite having most talented players in the game,
but yet stayed ahead. Coach, stayed employed, stayed desirable all
the way up until this year.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Man, I got mad props to you, Doc may Well, that's.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
One of the things, right, And we look at the
NBA and in something we talked about in a micro
effect year after year about the regular season and how
much it matters. So as a regular season coach, fifty
wins a year, Okay, you got all that talent. Good,
you should win fifty games a year, even if guys
are doing load management, missing planes, missing meetings, missing treatment,
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missing workouts, refusing to Ron Berners, whatever else the case
may be. But you miss the most important part of
the Doc Rivers resume. That's Hall of Famer, Doc Rivers
to you, right, that's a Hall of Fame career, not
just longevity, not just the ability to coach and be
linked to some of the best players you and I
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have watched in our adult live You're talking about a
guy that's going to the Hall of fame despite the
playoff ineptitude and the number of three ones and everything
else lost along the way. That's the crowning achievement. That
is the cherry on top of the proverbial Sunday.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I I really I see Doc Rivers, and I go, man,
all these stories, all these things, but like, you know,
the one thing I can see.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Like Doc man, Like Doc, I mean when.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
When he led the Clippers through the the Donald Sterling
Steve Balmer transition when things were really bad, right, Like,
I give Doc Rivers a lot of credit for that
because that was where hey, man, the NBA was teetering
on the brink right there, right that was like me,
that was, hey, if you don't take care of this fast,
people aren't showing up for playoff games, people aren't gonna play.
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This is a bit And Doc Rivers did a great
job holding the team together. So I give him a
ton of credit for that. And that came, you know,
really at the near the end with the Clippers, when
you realize, okay, the team's not really winning, so you know,
to to see into the reason why, like Doc always
seemed to be that coach to say, hey, don't worry.
Controversy comes up. I got it.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You don't. You don't.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You're not gonna have any worries with me. You're not
gonna have to worry about me getting along with my
best player. You're not gonna have to worry about negative headlines.
You just don't have to worry. But you can worry
about other things. I kind of got it, and and
most teams I can see where teams and some owners
go Okay, yeah, okay, I like that. I can worry
about other things, and I can worry about this part.
I worry about this part. You know, Doc, Doc kind
of has it. But in the end, you're playing for
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lario'brian Trophy, and at some point you got to say, well,
there's other guys can keep things together.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It doesn't need to be just Doc Rivers.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So when you talk about why he was able to
do that, he always seemed to be that coach that
had that image of him that you know what, ay,
things are solid adults in the room. Anything that comes up,
you know off the court, he can handle it right
and you're gonna win during the regular season. So that
that puts a lot, that puts a lot to U
to rest with it. But man, you get to the
playoffs and suddenly it's that bad and you go, man,
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I just gave you a litany of Hall of famers
that he is coached. It's one championship and two times
in the NBA finals like that, that's what he has done.
I really, I mean it. It baffles me. Congratulations, congratulations
on somehow get into the Hall of Fame. Man, I
mean to be able to do that, man, Yeah, like
the old Charles Barkley line, I don't know about role models,
but your mind. I want to be able to not
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succeed and have that kind of reputation to last that long.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah again.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Game Recognized tried to delete the tweet, but the Internet
lives forever. Hence we had that audio clip that played.
Be curious to see how many more players from the
past corroborate or just keep their mouth shut. Along this
uh Miles Turner revelation. Today, time about to find out
what's trending in the wide.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
World of sports. Someone has been called the doc Rivers
a Fox Sports radio. He never says anything as anybody's fault.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
It's Steve to Sega.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I'm sorry, I'm late here sitting down. What did you say?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Thank you? Don't worry, not gonna find you, not gonna
find It's all good.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, it looks like the Spurs are gonna be eliminating
the Minnesota Timberwolves in Game six in their second round
playoff series. Tonight, San Antonio leads at Minnesota one oh
four to seventy six late in the third quarter, led
by Stefan Castle's twenty eight points. Stieron Fox has twenty
one and seven assists. Spurs shooting fifty nine percent from
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the floor, leading the way for the Timberwolves Anthony Edwards
nineteen points, but Minnesota shooting thirty eight percent from the field.
Detroit won at Cleveland, won fifteen to ninety four to
force a Game seven of that series Sunday at Detroit.
Kay Cunningham twenty one points in the win, eight assists,
seven turnovers. Knicks guard Ogi On and Obi practice fully
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today for the first time since his hamstring injury. He
missed their last two games. So with this Detroit win tonight,
Game one of the East Finals would be Tuesday. Game
one of the West Finals would be Monday. Oklahoma Cities
Jalen Williams says he's healthy. He's missed the last six
games with a strain hamstring. Okase swept the Lakers last Monday.
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The nixt last Sunday sweat Philadelphia. They've been off since then.
Nicks have won seventh straight. The NBA Draft combine has
been going on in Chicago this week. Draft's first round
is June twenty. Third in the WNBA for Las Vegas
superstar Asia Wilson with forty five points in a win
at Connecticut one oh one ninety four Connecticut's Sun zho
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to four. Asia Wilson was fifteen of eighteen shooting from
the floor and on free throws perfect thirteen of thirteen.
Washington Mystics won in overtime at Indiana one o four,
one oh two. Caitlin Clark did hit the tying three
at the end of regulation, but she had a two
for fifteen start. Finished ten of twenty eight from the field.
Clark thirty two points eight assists in the loss. The
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league is off Saturday. At the PGA Championship. Maverick McNeely
has tied for the lead. A group two shots back
include Scottie Scheffler and Justin Thomas. The NHL is off
tonight Saturday night. Montreal up three games to two hosts
Buffalo at the Italian Open. Cocoa goff Is in the
women's final Saturday today. On the men's side, Casper Rude
advance to the final. A reminder, nascars on FS one
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again this Sunday, Fox's final Cup Series telecast of the year,
the All Star Race at Dover Sunday one Eastern time.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
In late night.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Baseball, the Dodgers are still leading in Anaheim six nothing
going to the eighth inning, the Dodgers said scheduled starter
he said Blake Snell was scratched with an elbow injury.
The team is confident he'll return this year. No decision
yet on surgery for him. The Padres lead to nothing
at Seattle in the bottom of the eighth. The A's
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at home at the seventh inning, Stretcher leading the Giants
five to two. Everything else is final, including a Saint
Louis home win in eleven innings against Kansas City five
to four. The Royals have dropped five straight. Houston shut
out Texas to nothing. The Rangers offense went one for
twenty seven. The Diamondbacks scored six times in the top
of the first wound up winning nine to one. At Colorado,
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winning pitcher Merrill Kelly with a complete game. The Cubs
sent the White Sox to an l ten to five.
White Sox had won five in a row. Yankees in
Tampa Bay each one, Atlanta at ten inning win, Detroit
with a run in the ninth, edge Toronto three to two,
and Philadelphia in ten innings won eleven to nine at
Pittsburgh get a comeback three runs in the ninth, three
and the tenth to take the game. And Kyle Schwarber
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hit two more homers. He's up to twenty this year,
nine homers just in his last eight games. Schwarber had
three hits five RBIs. Tonight, teammate Bryce Harper with four hits.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harbert. Now,
if you think the Miles Turner stuff on Doc Rivers
was great, wait till you hear what he had to
say about Jannis. That's coming up next right here, Chasing.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
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Speaker 1 (34:40):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon, Where Yeah, No, we'll have more on Edwin Diz,
but uh, yeah, go.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
To the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
The third quarter started out great for Minnesota, it did
not end that way.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
One ten p.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Eighty four, It is a twenty six point lead for
the Spurs headed to the fourth quarter. Uh, in an hour,
we'll be talking about the Spurs thunder Western Conference Finals.
Steph Castle's got thirty, Wemby's got seventeen seven and three blocks.
It has just been an absolute bludgeoning of the Tea
Wolves from the start. Anthony Edwards has twenty four, but
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he's nine for twenty five from the floor. Yeah, we
are just counting down the minutes till Wemby and Sge
go at it in the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Here's your laugh when you're going to break it down
the Minnesota Timberwolves thirty seven percent from the field, nineteen assists,
four turnovers, and they're still getting that ass beat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, that's that's that's how much they are not performing
up to snuff.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
You want to talk about the box score reading and
the game you're watching, It's like, Hi, they're moving.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
The bat, No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
No, they're shooting terribly uh and ultimately a lot of
empty possessions.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
So a few minutes ago we brought you the beginning
of Miles Turner, who lit the world on fire today
with comments on a podcast about Doc Rivers and Yannis Uh.
We talked about dot Doc Rivers is very had a
very hands off attitude, didn't find anybody. Everybody was late
for team planes, for meetings, for for film sessions, and
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Doc never find anyone and the season just went off
the rails.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
From Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Okay, well you gotta think, well, maybe Jannis tried to
keep on top of things as he was injured and
going through the season and being a leader well, as
Miles Turner said on the Game Recognized Game podcast, Yeah, no,
Jannis was actually a big part of the issues. Who's
the teammate that's most likely to be late?
Speaker 7 (36:48):
Oh that's easy, honest, janns is gonna show up whatever
he wants. Really, I think.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I kind of just came with the territory at that
and once I kind of saw it was going down,
I was like a man, more power to you. They
ain't gonna find you. Do what you do?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, who is that?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh? Y honest, Jannis was the guy late all the time.
He is late all the time, yo, honest, one hundred percent. Now,
he did go on to say to say good things
about Giannis. I think realizing that, Oh wow, I said.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
That about Yiannis.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
But all of a sudden and this is just now,
and I say, in the last couple of months, where
Yannis has been in the league now thirteen years, and
you would think that he's going to.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Be the most sought after guy. Uh this offseason in
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Here's a story that comes out about him that is
not great that he tries to promote himself as I'm
this big leader, I'm the guy, and here he is
I'm the one that's late to all.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Of these meetings. Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Man, the market for Yannis already was not going to
be nearly as robust as he thinks or as the
Bucks think. Right, It's not Jannie. Is thirty one coming
off an injury plagued year.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Is Yannis. It's not five years ago, Yannis.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
This is now Jannis after there's been a lot of
stuff back and forth, and he very publicly is feuded.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
With the organization. The market is not gonna be great anyway.
It's gonna be even less after this. People are gonna
start to wonder is he genuine? Is he really gonna
be a guy that shows up late to meetings?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. We can't trade for this guy.
If he's gonna come in and do that, he's gonna
rip our team apart. Forget about taking us to the
next level. He's gonna rip our team apart if he's
a guy that's coming late to meetings. And good luck
trying to convince your next team. No, this was because
of doc is what happened here? Oh I's it was
other people's fault. Other people's fault. I'm telling you, man,
my desire to have Yannis on my team wanes.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Every single day.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Every single day I get if I'm looking out to
make a trade for Yannis, I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
A little bit less excited.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
And this story here, this is like red flag Central, man,
Like this is like red Flag's going up all over
the place.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Every day.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Jannis becomes less and less of a guy that I go, yeah,
let's go out and get him and we can go
to the finals.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, one more year on his contract. And and something
we've talked about a lot during the speculation. You've fitted
in in a nixe jersey and then ripped it off
his back several times, including last round, going all the
way back to the first round when it looked like
the plucky Atlanta Hawks, we're gonna give you some problems.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
But all that to.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Say, he's old for that body at this point, right
it's he's thirty one, thirty two, thirteen years in the league,
playing a lot on the inside and taking a pounding
bit by bit, started to work on the game to
extend his range. Sometimes that worked out well. Sometimes it's like,
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why are you out there shooting three pointers? But all
of that say, you also have a full season of
playoff games. He played eighty four career playoff games. It's
a lot of weary miles for a guy that's now
got a couple of sizable injuries. And again we can
squabble about the last year and what became of it
in the final six to eight weeks of I really
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want to play, No, you're not gonna play. Is it
because we're tanking? Is it because we're not clearing you medically?
You're still hurt and you're just talking up a good game.
This lends more credence to Hey, maybe the Bucks were right,
and the medicals were worse than Giannis is letting on
and he was just trying to put on a good
face because that's what he'd always been, right, He'd always
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been the babyface to take the WWE parlance of the
you know, the young naive as shucks freaking this in
the on the court and freaking the sheets and whatever else.
He was saying, Uh, but now this just cast a
whole new light of all right, I'm gonna bend the
rules as much as that well, because what are they
gonna do to me?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah? Well, which is.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
One of the worst things. And certainly he's not alone
in this, and I'm sure plenty of other guys are
laughing and sending texts back and forth going hey, remember
that jerk and referencing a teammate here, there and everywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I Mean, the thing is, now he's a mystery.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
He went from let's go get Giannis and we're gonna
do X, Y and Z easily, and he's gonna take
us to this level. But now he's a miss. Now
he's a wild card. What kind of gianis are we getting?
Is really this great teammate or is he this guy
that's gonna be late.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Like you know, he's a great teammate because he's giving
the extra time.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
You're all late, Hey, don't worry. I'm not showing up.
You don't need to show up for until for another
half hour. You're all good.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
We have more on this story and more big stuff
out of the NBA next right here, Jason and Mike
Fox Sports Radio,