November 14, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon throw out their big takeaways coming off Thursday Night Football. Jason explains why he’s cool with both MLB MVP winners. And the NFL has filed a grievance against the NFLPA to stop the annual team report cards!
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend, Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Brook mackmersonally.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
TNF Patriots beat the Jets twenty seven fourteen.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Ask Rich.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
A game where hopefully you are playing Travon Henderson and
not going against him. Yeah, because that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
A thirty point night from Trayvon Henderson tonight, really the
only guy to have an incredible night Fantasy wise. Three touchdowns,
two rushing, one receiving, sixty two yards rushing and thirty
one yards receiving. It was a big night for a
guy who really has taken over. Now I know that
that Mike Vrabel said that Okay, Rimandra Stevenson will be
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the starting running back. Nah, this is kind of why
you drafted the dude and I love the slow play again.
We talked about Mike Vrabel being NFL Coach of the
Year right, one hundred percent, talked about it last hour
and nobody else is close. No one's doing more with less.
But just to think about this as an aspect from
Mike Vrabel right before you get into the Jets, like
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when Jamier Gibbs comes into the NFL, the Lions and
Dan Campbell continue to keep giving the football to David Montgomery, right,
and we're gonna get Jamiir Gibbs used to the pounding
and everything, and at some point it's like, you gotta
let Jamiir Gibbs go. You gotta let him go. You
gotta let him go. You gotta let him go. And
wait a little bit too long, but did and and
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when the Lions were having runs for the super Bowl
the last year, this year, okay, Gibbs has become the
number one guy there. Montgomery's more of the complimentary back
who's gonna get the goal line carries. But Gibbs so dangerous,
so good and sort of you can see that that's
what the Patriots have have have laid it out here.
They didn't give it to Travon Henderson. They said, Okay, no,
Stevenson's a guy. We paid him money. Now it was
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they did pay him a book. Yeah, but I mean
it's running high running.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It is high running back money.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
But it's also the previous regime that that decided to
pay him. And now and he you know, stops you know,
we can't stop fumbling. It's always been, Hey, Stevenson's the guy.
Stevens the guy making Henderson earn it. Not just we
drafted you. We know you're special. We're going to hand
you the running back job. So he's had to do that.
And over the course of the past few weeks. Now
it wasn't just well, Stevenson's starting and then it's Henderson. Well,
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I guess Antonio Gibson was in the mix there a
little bit. And when when Stevenson fumbled a couple of times,
Gibson got a lot of the carries. He ran the
ball really well. Henderson was still a spice guy or
we get you in a little bit here back and forth.
But now middle part of the season and the Patriots
are thinking into January and beyond. Now you have Travon Henderson,
who is not going to hit the rookie wall running
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the football because now he's just starting to get the
football a ton and it's still not twenty five carries
a give him the ball fifteen twenty times a game.
But now he's really starting, he'll be hitting his stride
when just when you need him to down the stretch
into the playoffs, he will still be strong. So being
able to withstand that from the beginning, because it's easy
for a first year to head coach to say, Stevens,
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it's not my guy. I didn't pay him, I drafted
Trevon Henderson.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He's a guy.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Let's give him the job. We see his talented enough.
But to be able to hold back on that and
to really hit the timing right for when you can
hand the job over to your next great running back.
Had two sixty yard runs last week for a touchdown.
He would have had won early in the game tonight.
But a shoe street track back, Yeah, hey, Brandon Stevens
just gets a finger on him to knock him down.
It would have been another touchdown for Travon Henderson. Like
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that's another example of just what Rabel is doing coaching wise,
because here is now the Patriots, where you're gonna have
a really dangerous running back they can trust, who is
not a guy that needs to come off the field.
He's not a first two down running but he's I'll
stay on the field for third down as well. I
can catch passes. I can still do this, and if
something happens, you still have a pretty good guy in
Stevenson in reserve. But now this hitting it right here,
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This is another example of the job that Rabel's done
this year.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And I can see the pain in your face people
looking at the video camera, the video outlay of this going.
I see it behind the eyes, and he talks excitedly
about the Patriots. That's the culture you wanted to build
with your guy Aaron Glent, who is all being done
by not building culture. No point, but what Rabel's doing right.
You have Steven's an averaging three point four yards carry
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this year, obviously a career low. The fumbling issues something
well chronicled for a couple of years, which is why
when he got the money, it's like that, really he's
not that good to overcome the and your team's not
that good to where that's just an inconsequential thing. No
one possession is monstrous, but that judicious use of it.
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You talked about the Lions. I think back to the
malpractice committed by Arthur Smith back when he was in
Atlanta where he had Jean Robinson in a box, and
I like Tyler Alzier and we watched it this last week.
It was more of the Al'sier show when it mattered
around the goal line, much to the chagrin of fantasy
owners there. But you look at those kind of things
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of building to a program, to a season. Five times
in the last six weeks, Henderson's had double digit touches
twenty four tonight against the Jets, including five catches out
of the backfield for thirty one yards. And that's where
you circle it going. You now trust him in the
third down situation because we talk about it a lot.
For those that have missed the conversation through the years,
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where the hell you've been?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But you come on in.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's like you talk to rookie running backs like they
can run the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
One of the big things is are you going to
get my quarterback killed if I have you out there
in third down situations where maybe you've got a chip
or pretend to pass protect before you go into your route.
A lot of guys they fail with that because they
never had to do it right. It's like getting on
Caleb Williams and other guys saying, hey, you know work
the play action in work from under center. Well, if
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all you've ever done is operate from the shotgun, guess
what that doesn't happen overnight? Likewise, Hey, I can do
enough to slow down a three hundred and twenty pound
defensive lineman coming in on my quarterback to his blind side.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, no, no, it takes some trust. It takes some time.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Henderson has obviously hit that stage to where now they
trust him on all downs, five touchdowns the last two weeks,
and it's his job going for it. What do you got, Frostburg?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
How do we even grade the Patriots tonight? They played
the Jets. It was a scrimmage. It was a scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They look good.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I don't think anybody.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Take the like, are they big deal? Like they played
the Jets seed in proch look like said Rich. Like
we said at the beginning of the show, this is
a big pr night for the Patriots where they're gonna
play tonight, They're gonna have the best record in the AFC,
and it's gonna be Hey, we.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Had all kinds of publicity on this. We break down
just how good they are, the job Mike Vrabel has done.
Because it's kind of a celebration of the Patriots tonight,
that's kind.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Of what it is. Hey, I'm not celebrating that.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The current odds now for the MVP after tonight's game.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Travon Henderson is your odds on favorite.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Wow, look at you none to actually go down because
they played Drake May have played the jetser.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Drake May now plus two twenty five. He was plus
three hundred last week.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Now, look, and this is the part you talk about
this this and we get into a quarterback situation here. Okay,
so there's your running back for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Drake May tonight started off easiest night he will have
in his entire NFL career. I don't know how the
Patriots didn't score more than twenty seven points. Every receiver
was wide open by five yards.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
How many times they hit him?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Though they did get some, they didn't count for anything,
but they did get some. But twenty five out of
thirty four for two hundred and eighty one yards and
a touchdown, And it really is is baffling that here
are the Patriots with a guy that nobody else was
high on. Well, Jay Glazer told us last hour, Hey,
Patriots were the only team that really high on Drake Max.
Is that Mitchell Trubisky's fault because of the North Carolina
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two time playoff quarterback.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I'm going back to Chris Keldorf not working out. So
it's really difficult sometimes to see here's a guy that
nobody wanted that everybody was eminently okay with the Patriots
having because we don't believe in Drake May. But ta dah,
they get it right, and here's Drake May and the
Patriots and the Jets still are in year fifty of
looking for a quarterback after Joe Namath and tonight justin
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Field showed you why he is going to be a
one and done quarterback with the Jets. He throws for
one hundred and sixteen yards. Tonight does have a good
night fantasy wise, but an awful night throwing the football,
an awful night holding onto the football, an awful fumble
in which he didn't really go for the ball, in
which is no more than a foot from it at any time,
justin fields. The latest in quarterbacks who come to New York,
either after being someplace else or before they leave, and
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in New York they stink.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
The Jets have not gotten a quarterback right in a
long time. But this gets to this gets to a
situation about what guys can handle, and when you find
someone that can handle your city, you stick with them, right.
The Giants found Eli Manning. He was able to handle
New York, so they stuck with him for over a decade,
even longer than they should. But Eli, they knew he
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can handle the pressures of playing in New York, which
is unlike any other city.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You can throw Chicago in there too. It's easy in
Los Angeles, Right, It's easier in Miami. New York, Chicago,
these are really two difficult places to play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's why when you get somebody, even if it's, well,
I don't know how great he is, you could probably
do better. But when they can handle playing there, hold on.
It's why the Bears held on to Jay Cutler for
so long. So Eli Manning comes in and the Giants, oh,
he can handle New York, so we stick with him
as long as possible. It's why the Giants are lucky
right now, because Jackson Dart clearly looks like a guy
that can handle New York.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
He has the moxie, he has the presence, he has
the fans, he's got everything.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No idea how long he's actually gonna be physically able
to play football. But there's something to being able to
handle playing in New York and when you go to
the Jets, that's kind of what it is. Go back
the past decade.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
All the players they have had, right that have either
started in New York, gone someplace else and succeeded, Gino Smith,
Sam Darnold, right, you've seen this, or started someplace else, succeeded,
gone to the Jets and stunk, then gone someplace else
and succeeded. Aaron Rodgers. Certain guys, certain places are really
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difficult to handle. And be in the quarterback for the Jets,
it's almost an impossible thing. Even Joe Flacco was great
in Baltimore. Now he's been really good in a couple
of places, been really good filling in in Cincinnati, really
good when he jumped off his couch to fill in Cleveland,
Awful with the Jets, New York it's just it's a
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different kind of place and it's and sometimes it's not
so much that the Jets fail at quarterback, it's that
guys aren't ready for it. And no matter who they picked,
they're so rare the player that can handle New York
and playing there that trying to get him it's like
needle in a haystack. Right, we think this guy's gonna
be able to handle the pressures of playing in New
York and especially with the Jets, but they can't. And
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so there's sometimes there's now you see the reason why
these guys been able to go someplace else and succeed,
because you're not under that spotlight, even in LA. Like
Matthew Stafford went from boy everybody hated him in Detroit
and now he's in LA He's a number two market.
But yeah, that's kind of off the right. He's able
to do his own thing. But every place else. Sam
Darnold had to go to a couple places and then
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in Minnesota and Seattle he found success.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Gino Smith had to go to Seattle. Maybe it's just
Seattle Seattle to find success. Joe Flacco, Hey, I was
able to go to Cleveland and Cincinnati, Oh, the greater
state of Ohio able to find success. And the one
guy the Jets had in the last twelve years that
seemed to be able to handle it. The Jets low
balled and wind up leaving. And that's Ryan Fitzpatrick. He
could handle New York. He found a way to be
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able to handle it. And the Jets and Woodie Johnson, oh, yeah,
we don't know if we want to pay him. No,
the dude can handle playing in that big spotlight. Not
many people can. So I don't always want to put
it on the Jets as being a team that hey,
because you got to think at some point, with a
different GM, different head coach, they're going to draft enough quarterbacks,
they're going to get one right. But when the one
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common denominator is no matter who it is, they're failing
sometimes as well. New York isn't made for everybody, whether
it's dealing with the media, dealing with the pressure, dealing
with the fallout, dealing with the immediacy of having to succeed,
dealing with the fact that no one's patient with your
head coaches. It's a really tough place to play, and
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especially when the you know, the Giants are more of
a heritage team that they do things right. They have
a better team that's a better setup than the Jets do.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So that is that is.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Partly Jets, but you know, mostly though a large part
of it is there's not a lot of guys can
handle and the Jets just haven't been able to draft
the guy in the last decade because it's really difficult
to do. Yeah, it's been interesting to watch the flow,
right because the Giants still trade on reputation.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But what is this coach six or seven? Since Tom
Goughlin and his red face walked away. I mean, they've
been basically on the treadmill with the next coach up
and Dable the latest. And now we'll see what Kafka
does and whether he gets to retain the job. But
we talk about different points and touch points of the
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Jets over the last fifteen years or so. You've got
the two years Sanchez and the defense going to the
title game. You have the year before Brett Farrov was
great until his arm fell off. Chad Pennington had his
moments pop gun arm, arm fell off, that was the
end of him.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You had a brief run.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Josh McCown actually had some pretty good numbers eighteen to nine,
five rushing touchdowns, quarterback rating about ninety five, couldn't stay healthy,
which gave you five games four games of Bryce Petty.
There you go, there's a name from the past, and
just go on down the line, Sam Darnold into Luke Falk,
into Trevor Simeon, Zach Wilson, Mike White, all of these
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guys with their cups of coffee.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Difficult plays to play. Saying.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You mentioned Matthew Stafford in Detroit, and there's some people
that still haven't come off of their stance on him. Right.
He was everybody all the quarterback's favorite quarterback. Guy that
I rude, you know, and hated when he was on
the schedule watching him with playing up against the Bears,
and what he and Calvin Johnson were able to do.
Comes out, he wins the Super Bowl. Now we're talking
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about Hall of Fame. Now we're trying to put him
over the last twenty five years in the NFL. Where
does he rank among quarterbacks. It's gonna be pretty high
what he and McVeigh have done here, but it's not
the same level of juice like I do a week
in the Weekly Baltimore spot and they ask, you know,
buzz I'm like, oh buzz i, man, little a little
bit of what the Chargers can be. The Rams just
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go about their business like there's no excitements, Like all right,
that's what Matthew Stafford is. At this point, it's just accepted.
Just get it's really hard.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
To find that guy that can handle New York and
the Jets search is gonna continue.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Rogers ran with that flag with such poise. That was good.
That was Olympic worthy.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean that was better than Will Ferrell with the
ribbons during old school exit out about a Fresco exit
swalling home. Jason Smith Mike Harmon, just something to understand
for the Jets. It's not always all their fault. Most
time it is, but not always coming up next, big
controversy for the Ale and the nl MVPs today.
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Speaker 2 (16:42):
This time it counts.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
We got more football on the way, but finishing with
a flourish This week, Al and NL MVP Awards giving
out today show Heyo Tana, You're unanimous winner in the
National League and in a.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Very close vote three fifty five to three thirty five,
Aaron Judge wins back to back MVPs over cal Raley controversy.
Did someone get screwed? Gonna surprise you with our takes
because they're fine. The awards are fine. In August, Kyle
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Schwarber was the MVP over show Hey Otani what he
was able to do when you can argue their importance
to each team and maybe this year.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
A little bit more importance.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Kyle Schwarber to the Phillies than show hated the Dodgers
because Bryce Harper is just good now. I remember we
told you that, and I'm sure you know, listen to Phillies.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Look Phillies.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
GM said, Hey, Bryce Harper's just good now you congratulations.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
That's from me.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Bryce. Hey, there you go, you're just a good player.
Schwarber was, was it. They don't run away with that division.
They don't do anything they do without this season. Schwarber
had right, But Otani September was terrific and he came
back to pitching.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So I get it. I'm okay with it. I'm okay
with it being unanimous. If you know, okay, Otani's just
a DH. Well, then he started pitching. Kyle Schwarber is
just a designated hitter. He did a lot, but September.
I'm a big proponent that September is a big deal.
Now it's not how you start, it's how you finish
and where you go and and how O'tani played. I
am eminently okay with Otani winning winning the way he is.
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And basically, maybe you got to create a new award
because Otani seems like he's gonna win it now for
the next few.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Years well and always unanimously. That's where it comes downimous
crazy kind of does that get him an extra precious
medal award along the way, because it can't just be
any hunk of medal. I mean, this has got to
be special for years like that. Is it in the
shape of a unicorn. But all that to say, the September,
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between pitching and getting back on the mount of what
he meant there, the Dodgers did not have the season
many anticipated, right, a lot of anxious moments down the
stretch division wise and l.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Wise and certainly all the way through to the topitle.
But take it up till October.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
First, he starts pitching that final run as they ramped
him and the other starters up, and for September he
hits well over three hundred with more power uh and
more home runs and RBIs than Schwarber who hit two
oh four. You also have Trey Turner, who finished fifth
in National League MVP voting, So you've got a little
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bit of that that starts creeping in because he had
a bigger September as they tried to close things out,
so you know, no shock there. Juan Soto finishes third,
four first play or four second place votes. Uh. And
then per Domo of the Diamondbacks finishing fourth with a
bunch of fourth place votes for him. But yeah, just
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the curiosity. But there's really no argument here.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It was just a question. It wasn't going to be
unanimous again, and it was.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I'm just I'm just sitting here saying, of course, I
can't look at it and not be depresco boy. The
Mets missed the playoffs, and we had three guys finishing
the top ten. And yeah, still we missed the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well, I mean, Paul Scheme's finished six. What's that get him?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, four more years in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Congratulations, nothing can stop that now.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I mean Pikrow Armstrong still finish top ten. He didn't
do anything.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, second, I was about I was okay, I think
those are people that turn in their ballots in July fourth.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I want to be done. I don't want to have anything.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They took the holiday and turned it in. I probably
I'm gonna forget about this. He's gonna finish strong, he's
gonna be really good. Fun So I was a little depressive. Yeah,
we had three guys in the top ten. Uh so Otani,
no problem. Now you get to the net, you get
to the American League, and this is where the real
big take is. But it's not where you think it's
from cal Rawley. As soon as this got announced, cal
Raley got ripped, but got rooked out of this. It
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was you know, cal Rawley played, you know, catcher and
Aaron Judge was more demanding position. He had a season
unlike any catcher in the history of Major League Baseball. Yeah,
I'm with you on that. I'm absolutely with you. There's
no argument.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yes, you want to debate the merits of what both
of them have done. Yeah, certain things you can't just ignore.
You can't say, oh, it doesn't matter cal Rowley's batting
average doesn't matter all the other things. No, no, no, if
you want to say the other things matter, that sixty
one runs is a big deal. Hitting two forty also matters. Right,
you can't just sit and cherry pick and say, oh, why.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Does it matter what that is?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
No, because I'm not What are you gonna say? What
does it matter that Aaron Judges ops was you know
one point seven like Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
That's Aaron Judge hit eight points higher. Aaron Judge hitting
three forty is a really big deal. You can't just say,
well it batting average doesn't matter. No, it all matters
when when you break it all down what they do hitting, Yeah,
it breaks off about the same. So yeah, I get
why the vote is close. It's not that cal Rawley
lost when Aaron Judge had a garden variety year for
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a Yankee slugger.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Right, if Aaron Judge had forty home runs and one
hundred RBIs and he hit two eighty, I would say, okay, yeah,
you got rooked out of it. And this was Hey,
Aaron Judges is you know, getting the beneficiary of being
just a you know, he's a Yankees. Of course people
have voted for him. No, Aaron Judge put up insane numbers.
So yeah, I get the fact that Judge wins the MVP.
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The bigger the bigger thing here is something we talked
about a couple months ago. And when you think about
the names on this list, it's gonna blow your mind.
This is the third MVP now for Aaron Judge, and
now back to back thirty three.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
He's probably got about four or five elite years to
hit left. Eventually he'll turn to be just a designated hitter.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But defensively, An'll talk of defensively moving from senator right
field much better for him, I mean, because his center
field highlight for the rest of his career is gonna
be dropping the fly Ball World Series. So but Aaron
Judge still has three four more elite years left. And
if it's one or two more MVPs, you're talking about
five MVPs, and and and only Barry Bonds is gonna
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have more. He's going to finish his career as one
of the top five Yankees of all time. And not
just Hey, I'm gonna sneak into the top five safely
in the top five, right and okay for most teams
that go okay, well, yeah, what you're talking about. He's
one of the top five Rays of all time. All right,
you're one of the top five padres of all time.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
With the Rais does wayde Boggs got his three thousand
hit as a member of it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It was a run.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That's a big deal. James Shields one of the top
five Rays of all time. Yea, his name nickname was
big Game James. He never won a big game. That's
the whole thing. He never won a big game.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Uh hopefully you know he.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Gave Worthy some money for that. Uh you know that
means one thing.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Top five Brewers of all time, top five Nationals, all
top five Yankee of all time. Think about some of
the guys that he's going to surpass, because this is
a list that goes Ruth, Gerig, DiMaggio, Bearra Mantle, Jeter,
Whitey Ford, Like, these are the guys. These are the famous,
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most famous Yankees of all time, Roger Morris, Reggie Jackson,
these are the guys he is going to blow pass.
Mariano Rivera. These are the guys he is going to
leap frog and be one of the top probably top
three players of all time in Yankee history. It's probably
gonna go in some kind of order. Ruth, Jeter and Judge,
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I mean really Jeter, because of the championships three thousand,
It's it's hard to argue with Derek Jeter playing shortstop
the captain, I mean, yes, are you a little bit
of prisoner of the moment, yeah, But still the titles,
the championships, the numbers the judge is gonna have is
gonna be better than Mantle, better than Maris, better than Demaggio.
I mean, yeah, this is I mean fifty six game
hitting street for Demaggio. But look at Aaron Judge's numbers.
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When you get to the end, what it's gonna be.
He's gonna be safely in the top five of Yankees
of all time. And that's mind blowing. The most historic
and prestigious franchise in the history of sports has had
no shortage of superstars come through their doors and play.
Tony Lazari, I mean, gotten to him, all these all
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these different players the Yankees have had, and Judge is
gonna be in the top five.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I was having fun going through a a list of
a blog called Pinstripe Valley, Right, so they ranked their
all time Yeke, this is ahead of twenty twenty four,
so it is not capdated, so hang a star on it.
At that point they had Judge sixteenth. He since one
two MVPs, Ruth Mantle, Garrig Jeter at the top, DiMaggio fifth.
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To put it in perspective for Damago's all time stats,
he finished with three hundred and sixty one career home runs.
Judge has three sixty eight. Yeah, right, still going, still
going right now again different times. And this is where
when we start comparing eras it gets into the fun.
All right, who did this guy have to play against?
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Wear and tear on the body, all of those things.
All we can do is we've got the numbers, right.
Not everybody's been there to go back. I can't go
back in the way back machine. Sherman and Peabody ain't
walking me through. Do I get to walk these guys
career day to day? But what we watched Judge already
five times, the top five MVP finalist, three wins. That's
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there's only thirteen guys in baseball history that have won
three or more MVP awards. He and Otani are in
that club. It's rarefied air when you look at it.
Twenty two retired jerseys.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
For the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
As you go down that list and thinking about the
history that they have, guys like Louisiana Lightning, Ron Gidrey
and the career that he had, Thurman Munson forever etched
in history, Pasada with his big moments that he had
along the way. Andy Pettitt, the guy that everybody forgets
actually is on lists and dad to say sorry.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Cares exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But all of that to say, like this, it's a
robust list when you talk about the all time greats,
these Yankee numbers and the legend and some of it. Again,
the way the league was set up to go, and
some of those World Series titles, if they had to
go through the number of series they do in games,
and maybe it's a different world. I can't take that
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away from these guys from what they We won the
American League, we got the Cardinals in the World Series. Wait,
that's next, Yes, we go right, right, series, let's go.
What do you got, Frostburg.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Everything you guys Jeff said about it is great in
all but there's only one stat that matters in New York.
What's that World Series Championships. It's impossible for Judge to
ever crack. I don't know about that unless he wins
a couple I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well, yeah, yeah, that is a thing. He has more
drops the World Series than he does. That is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That is that is But that's that's wow, that's rough. Uh,
it's it's no World Series tough to do that. It's
hard to blame an individual player for not winning except
for that drop fly. Yeah, the drop play ball was
But remember we're down three games to one anyway. It's
not like if he caught the fly ball the Yankees
were winning the series. They were down three to one anyway,
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they were gonna lose. Well, I mean, this was the
final dagger. This is a vital stake in the heart.
If you're a vampire, we got bam.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It's it's Football and basketball are different because it's easier
for the best players to lead their team to championships. Right,
you only have five guys on the court in basketball,
You're gonna your amount of time with the basketball and
affecting the game much more than a player ken in
Major League Baseball. Because of baseball, but it's gonna bat
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four times a game. You gotta wait till the ball
gets hit to him. Right, Quarterbacks in the NFL, they
have much more control over there on the field half
the time. Right, Great players that get the football a lot,
they have much more control. There's less control in baseball,
Like you know, outside of the steroid stuff and the
Balco stuff. Barry Bond's like, okay, I can't blame him
for not winning a World Series. Like Barry Bonds is
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an unbelievable career right now, and he finally had a
World Series where he was great and he would have
been the MVP two thousand World Series, but the Angels
just happened to beat them.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yes, he was rough in the playoffs before, but this
is this is a case where he could have done that.
There's guys with incredible careers and it's not always their
fault they don't get to the World Series. I'm not
gonna blame Bryce Harper for not winning World Series. I'll
blame Bryce Harper and say, dude, you've become You went
from being a terrific great player to being a good player.
Are you get a good player for five years? Are
you gonna start playing a violin? Thinking of the Ernie
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Banks and some of those other guys the all time grade,
It's like I gotta even sniff to play. Harper left
the Nationals they won the World sick man.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
But I can't got it. That kind of kills a
lot of argument for him.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I can't ding him for not winning the World Series.
Why not, because it's it's much these you have you
have much? Well, look when when the Yankees won the
World Series, there's eight teams in the American League, eight
teams in the National League, and you go right from
winning the American League to the World's. No, but it's
it's a much easier path than it is that than
what happens now. It's a much easier path.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Now you've got a one hundred and sixty two games
you gotta win, you gotta win three rounds of playoffs,
and then you gotta that's a it's a it's a
mountain to climb to go Cashman getting stuff right.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
The top five in Yankees history without World Series title.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, no, no, no, a top five Yankee career overall,
even with winning the World Series. Yes, without the World Series?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think it makes for a fun discussion, right because
how much weight that has, right, Because Jeter doesn't win
four as part of the you know, with core four
and all that fun stuff doesn't matter, right, he doesn't
have a pile of World Series rings. He's he's a
guy that was a stat aggregator that played in New
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York Exit out about a Fresca exit swelling down the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon Time.
How to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports with someone who's been called the Aaron Judge
of Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
She's our MVP, even though half the country seems to disagree.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's mantis.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's good.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Yeah, guys, we have a perfect Talloween costume for next year.
You can dress up as Aaron Judge dressing up as
the Rock.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Today. Yeah yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He looked just like the Rock.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
The Turtle Mack with the chain and the haircut look
very similar. So you can dress up as Aaron Judge
dressed up. If you're gonna be Aaron Judge, bring dog.
You had two dogs with him today.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Oh okay, so.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Instead of the fanny pack and the dog.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Is how you differentiate? Is that a word?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Differentiate?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Different Thank you?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
We were there, we were close.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's how you differentiate.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I'm an English to great, so I'm good. I'm good
with words and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That is how we separate the two.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I would just go with Aaron Judge and have people
toss me a ball and I would just keep dropping
it like that's that's all.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Aaron Judge driving and see that might go over a.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Lot of folks.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's okay, I'm okay, you don't get it. Listen, you're
not smart enough to get my Halloween costumes. Judge it
sounds you sound.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Like a salty Jets and Mets fan.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I'm Jason Smith. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You're new here.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Apparently apparently differentiate.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's not right?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Differentiate?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Differentiate?
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Okay, great, let's differentiate between the Patriots and the Jets.
That kicked off Week eleven of the NFL. New England
wins at twenty into fourteen, extending their winning streak to eight.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Drake May He completed.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Twenty five and thirty four passes two hundred and eighty
one yards on a touchdown that went to Travon Henderson.
We also had nineteen carries for sixty two yards and
two touchdowns on the ground. Justin fields was fifteen of
twenty six one hundred and sixteen yards. He also had
a touchdown in the air, plus eleven carries for sixty
seven yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
On the ground.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Here is his head coach, Aaron Glenn talking about his performance.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Listen, there are some good things. That's some really good things.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I thought he puts some balls out there, and we
got to have some guys.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
That make some plays for him too. Obviously, I know
for a fact that he's going to say there are
some things that he could have done better.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Again, we do have to wash the tape. But I
thought there were some good things he did out there,
some good things.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
New England and Bruceton nine and two. New York falls
to two and eight. As Week eleven continues over the weekend,
the Texans have ruled out CJ.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Stroud.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
They're going to have Davis Smills start at quarterback against
the Titans. Forty nine Ers quarterback brock Perty will start
in Week eleven. He hasn't played since Week four because
of his toe injury. No practice today for Broncos running
back JK. Dot Ben's Chiefs twenty back Isaiah Pacheco and
Lions tight end Sam Laporta. In baseball, Yeah, Aaron Judge
has won the AL MVP for a second consecutive season.
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He receives seventeen of the thirty first place votes. The
other thirteen went to Cal Raley. This is Judge's third MVP.
Shoheyo Tani unanimously won the National League MVP award for
a second consecutive season. He's only the second player to
win for MVPs. When it comes to the NBA three
games on Thursday night, the Hawks top the Jobs won
thirty two to one twenty two Jalen Johnson thirty one points,
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eighteen rebounds, fourteen assists and seven steals. The Suns beat
the Pacers won thirty three to ninety eight, and the
Raptors outscored the Cavaliers won twenty six to one thirteen.
In the NHL, the games have wrapped up officially while
we're going to overtime between the Islanders and the Golden
Knights third tied at three goals, I believe. And then
when it comes to the Jets and the Kraken, did
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that one wrap up?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Did it officially wrap up?
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Not yet?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Maybe five three cracking eye.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Join fields turned the ball over.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Yeah, sorry, the Jets loss cracking one three The I
want to say in NBA history, Okay, he like that's
how close he was to a quadruple double tonight.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Only one player has gotten a quadruple double with steals,
and it's Alvin Robertson. All the other quadruple doubles are
all blocked. All big men with blocks block shots. Right,
it's all points, rebounds, assists and blocks. I think there's
only one triple double with assists. We'll have to get
the crack research staff. You have to get the great
researcher Sarah Langs.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
To get a freelance into some basketball for us a
little bit, how about that. But getting after that, I
shortened g to that one World series, So I'm sorry,
that's all right. I was thinking core four four if
Dad's gonna kick your ass, but that's okay. I came
back and I credited it too. It's gonna hit you
with something really hard. Oh, Harmon, I got something bam
(34:50):
coming up next. Evidence the NFL just wants to take
big fun away from every single fan and fun player.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
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Speaker 2 (35:02):
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Speaker 1 (35:11):
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Speaker 3 (35:18):
Jason, can you ride your bike with no handlers?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I was really good riding with no hands. I was reading.
It took me a while to learn, but I was
really good riding with no hands. Yeah. My next door neighbor,
Billy Jones. Billy Jones was a unicyclist.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He used to be able to ride to the corner
and do this thing. He had a bike that would
just and he used to be able to ride with
no hands. He would get to the corner and just
like shift his weight and turn the bike left and
stay with no hands. I was like, Wow, that's the
greatest thing ever seen in my life. And then he
would get it and then be able to do it
again and turn and go back, and like, wow, I
(35:52):
want to be able to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Was he able to monetize that in any way? Show? No, No,
it was the seventies. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Seems like a lot of way to make a lot
of effort and risk now no reward.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Now we could go on like X Factor or something.
Get the girls with that move?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Nah, No, that was more of a hey, I'm impressing
the neighborhood kids than hey, girls going I gotta get
next to him.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
No, that wasn't the trying I was hoping for the
gay Yeah, no, no it was really it was a
pretty good trailer, Like, well, I can't believe he could
do that right with no hands? Now, Uh, the NFL
wants to give you no report cards.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
No report cards.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
One of the most fun days of the year in
the NFL is when we get the report cards for
the teams, where it's been a it's been a tradition
the last few years, an anonymous survey of players where
they rank their teams for certain things like how they
serve food in the cafeteria to what kind of childcare
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they have available. And you see the teams that do
well and get a's and teams that do horrible and
get s the food and the Cincinnati Bengals food is terrible.
And I'm just saying that because I remember the Bengals
being the bottom a lot of things. And that's one
of the most fun days in the NFL because you
get to find out what teams are doing things really
good for their players and what teams just fail at humanity.
(37:10):
So it's kind of a fun thing coach owner, food, travel,
weight room, and treatment of family categories. However, the NFL
doesn't want us to have this information, as they have
filed a grievance against the NFLPA asking the union to
stop its annual team report cards. They say the exercise
violates the CBA by airing public criticism of teams. The
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owner who's at The head of this, of course, is
Jets owner Woody Johnson, who I believe.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
What do you get? D's gotten? D's the last wee yay?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
B for a coach, Yeah, okay, have for the owners,
C minus for food, C plus for travel, yeah, C
plus for weight room, and C minus for the treatment
of family C minus, if you recall, was the I
just don't want to look at you for another semester. Yeah,
here's your gray to pass you by.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
And this is crappy on so many levels, and I
can just defend it by saying this, Hey, NFL owners,
how about you do better. How about you own a
team and you treat everybody like they should be treated.
They put their bodies on the line for you, and
they have a bad quality of life when they get
done playing in the NFL. How about you give them
like good food in the cafeteria. How About you make
(38:23):
sure that there's childcare ready for them. How about you
make sure that the travel is okay.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You have the money, you own an NFL team, You're
worth billions and billions of dollars. How about you run
it right because you know what's gonna happen then, is
in free agency when a team is went, well, do
I go here? Do I go here?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Hey? Man, they do everything right.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
You want to talk about being able to help you
find housing and be able to take care of your kids. Oh,
this team does it right. How about you spend little
money on that.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
How about you take care of the guys put their
bodies on the line for you all the way through.
I don't think that's a lot to ask of NFL owners.
Instead of saying no, bury it because it makes us
look bad. Do better as people, do better as human beings.
That's all I would say. Let's see July twenty third,
twenty twenty five NFL teams reportedly received how much money
per team? Four hundred and thirty two million dollars.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
One hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So when we talk about food, right, the running joke
equated back to the a's and money ball of the
money's on the field, right.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I don't want to pay for a dollar. Where on
the field is the dollar that I'm paying for soda? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It's hard to see. It's kind of hard to see,
but it's that right. It's very much that part of it.
And even if this isn't done formally, yeah, you're telling
me that's not being done informally by by agents, by
like groups of people throughout the league. Everybody talks now
it's this is just the aggregation of that.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
This is the efficient question.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Instead of hey, i've heard rumors of it. This makes
it okay, great, Okay, this is great because it's not
that the players criticize it. It's like, here's a matter
of fact. If you want to add the anecdote those
shouldn't get out, I'll listen to that. Booooo, we got
more football on the way next. A tale of two
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Brook mackmersonally.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
TNF Patriots beat the Jets twenty seven fourteen.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Ask Rich.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
A game where hopefully you are playing Travon Henderson and
not going against him. Yeah, because that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
A thirty point night from Trayvon Henderson tonight, really the
only guy to have an incredible night Fantasy wise. Three touchdowns,
two rushing, one receiving, sixty two yards rushing and thirty
one yards receiving. It was a big night for a
guy who really has taken over. Now I know that
that Mike Vrabel said that Okay, Rimandra Stevenson will be
(01:21):
the starting running back. Nah, this is kind of why
you drafted the dude and I love the slow play again.
We talked about Mike Vrabel being NFL Coach of the
Year right, one hundred percent, talked about it last hour
and nobody else is close. No one's doing more with less.
But just to think about this as an aspect from
Mike Vrabel right before you get into the Jets, like
(01:42):
when Jamier Gibbs comes into the NFL, the Lions and
Dan Campbell continue to keep giving the football to David Montgomery, right,
and we're gonna get Jamiir Gibbs used to the pounding
and everything, and at some point it's like, you gotta
let Jamiir Gibbs go. You gotta let him go. You
gotta let him go. You gotta let him go. And
wait a little bit too long, but did and and
(02:03):
when the Lions were having runs for the super Bowl
the last year, this year, okay, Gibbs has become the
number one guy there. Montgomery's more of the complimentary back
who's gonna get the goal line carries. But Gibbs so dangerous,
so good and sort of you can see that that's
what the Patriots have have have laid it out here.
They didn't give it to Travon Henderson. They said, Okay, no,
Stevenson's a guy. We paid him money. Now it was
(02:25):
they did pay him a book. Yeah, but I mean
it's running high running.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It is high running back money.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
But it's also the previous regime that that decided to
pay him. And now and he you know, stops you know,
we can't stop fumbling. It's always been, Hey, Stevenson's the guy.
Stevens the guy making Henderson earn it. Not just we
drafted you. We know you're special. We're going to hand
you the running back job. So he's had to do that.
And over the course of the past few weeks. Now
it wasn't just well, Stevenson's starting and then it's Henderson. Well,
(02:52):
I guess Antonio Gibson was in the mix there a
little bit. And when when Stevenson fumbled a couple of times,
Gibson got a lot of the carries. He ran the
ball really well. Henderson was still a spice guy or
we get you in a little bit here back and forth.
But now middle part of the season and the Patriots
are thinking into January and beyond. Now you have Travon Henderson,
who is not going to hit the rookie wall running
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the football because now he's just starting to get the
football a ton and it's still not twenty five carries
a give him the ball fifteen twenty times a game.
But now he's really starting, he'll be hitting his stride
when just when you need him to down the stretch
into the playoffs, he will still be strong. So being
able to withstand that from the beginning, because it's easy
for a first year to head coach to say, Stevens,
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it's not my guy. I didn't pay him, I drafted
Trevon Henderson.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He's a guy.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Let's give him the job. We see his talented enough.
But to be able to hold back on that and
to really hit the timing right for when you can
hand the job over to your next great running back.
Had two sixty yard runs last week for a touchdown.
He would have had won early in the game tonight.
But a shoe street track back, Yeah, hey, Brandon Stevens
just gets a finger on him to knock him down.
It would have been another touchdown for Travon Henderson. Like
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that's another example of just what Rabel is doing coaching wise,
because here is now the Patriots, where you're gonna have
a really dangerous running back they can trust, who is
not a guy that needs to come off the field.
He's not a first two down running but he's I'll
stay on the field for third down as well. I
can catch passes. I can still do this, and if
something happens, you still have a pretty good guy in
Stevenson in reserve. But now this hitting it right here,
(04:25):
This is another example of the job that Rabel's done
this year.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And I can see the pain in your face people
looking at the video camera, the video outlay of this going.
I see it behind the eyes, and he talks excitedly
about the Patriots. That's the culture you wanted to build
with your guy Aaron Glent, who is all being done
by not building culture. No point, but what Rabel's doing right.
You have Steven's an averaging three point four yards carry
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this year, obviously a career low. The fumbling issues something
well chronicled for a couple of years, which is why
when he got the money, it's like that, really he's
not that good to overcome the and your team's not
that good to where that's just an inconsequential thing. No
one possession is monstrous, but that judicious use of it.
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You talked about the Lions. I think back to the
malpractice committed by Arthur Smith back when he was in
Atlanta where he had Jean Robinson in a box, and
I like Tyler Alzier and we watched it this last week.
It was more of the Al'sier show when it mattered
around the goal line, much to the chagrin of fantasy
owners there. But you look at those kind of things
(05:35):
of building to a program, to a season. Five times
in the last six weeks, Henderson's had double digit touches
twenty four tonight against the Jets, including five catches out
of the backfield for thirty one yards. And that's where
you circle it going. You now trust him in the
third down situation because we talk about it a lot.
For those that have missed the conversation through the years,
(05:56):
where the hell you've been?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But you come on in.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's like you talk to rookie running backs like they
can run the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
One of the big things is are you going to
get my quarterback killed if I have you out there
in third down situations where maybe you've got a chip
or pretend to pass protect before you go into your route.
A lot of guys they fail with that because they
never had to do it right. It's like getting on
Caleb Williams and other guys saying, hey, you know work
the play action in work from under center. Well, if
(06:25):
all you've ever done is operate from the shotgun, guess
what that doesn't happen overnight? Likewise, Hey, I can do
enough to slow down a three hundred and twenty pound
defensive lineman coming in on my quarterback to his blind side.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, no, no, it takes some trust. It takes some time.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Henderson has obviously hit that stage to where now they
trust him on all downs, five touchdowns the last two weeks,
and it's his job going for it. What do you got, Frostburg?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
How do we even grade the Patriots tonight? They played
the Jets. It was a scrimmage. It was a scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They look good.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I don't think anybody.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Take the like, are they big deal? Like they played
the Jets seed in proch look like said Rich. Like
we said at the beginning of the show, this is
a big pr night for the Patriots where they're gonna
play tonight, They're gonna have the best record in the AFC,
and it's gonna be Hey, we.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Had all kinds of publicity on this. We break down
just how good they are, the job Mike Vrabel has done.
Because it's kind of a celebration of the Patriots tonight,
that's kind.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Of what it is. Hey, I'm not celebrating that.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The current odds now for the MVP after tonight's game.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Travon Henderson is your odds on favorite.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Wow, look at you none to actually go down because
they played Drake May have played the jetser.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Drake May now plus two twenty five. He was plus
three hundred last week.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Now, look, and this is the part you talk about
this this and we get into a quarterback situation here. Okay,
so there's your running back for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Drake May tonight started off easiest night he will have
in his entire NFL career. I don't know how the
Patriots didn't score more than twenty seven points. Every receiver
was wide open by five yards.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
How many times they hit him?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Though they did get some, they didn't count for anything,
but they did get some. But twenty five out of
thirty four for two hundred and eighty one yards and
a touchdown, And it really is is baffling that here
are the Patriots with a guy that nobody else was
high on. Well, Jay Glazer told us last hour, Hey,
Patriots were the only team that really high on Drake Max.
Is that Mitchell Trubisky's fault because of the North Carolina
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two time playoff quarterback.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I'm going back to Chris Keldorf not working out. So
it's really difficult sometimes to see here's a guy that
nobody wanted that everybody was eminently okay with the Patriots
having because we don't believe in Drake May. But ta dah,
they get it right, and here's Drake May and the
Patriots and the Jets still are in year fifty of
looking for a quarterback after Joe Namath and tonight justin
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Field showed you why he is going to be a
one and done quarterback with the Jets. He throws for
one hundred and sixteen yards. Tonight does have a good
night fantasy wise, but an awful night throwing the football,
an awful night holding onto the football, an awful fumble
in which he didn't really go for the ball, in
which is no more than a foot from it at any time,
justin fields. The latest in quarterbacks who come to New York,
either after being someplace else or before they leave, and
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in New York they stink.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
The Jets have not gotten a quarterback right in a
long time. But this gets to this gets to a
situation about what guys can handle, and when you find
someone that can handle your city, you stick with them, right.
The Giants found Eli Manning. He was able to handle
New York, so they stuck with him for over a decade,
even longer than they should. But Eli, they knew he
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can handle the pressures of playing in New York, which
is unlike any other city.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You can throw Chicago in there too. It's easy in
Los Angeles, Right, It's easier in Miami. New York, Chicago,
these are really two difficult places to play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's why when you get somebody, even if it's, well,
I don't know how great he is, you could probably
do better. But when they can handle playing there, hold on.
It's why the Bears held on to Jay Cutler for
so long. So Eli Manning comes in and the Giants, oh,
he can handle New York, so we stick with him
as long as possible. It's why the Giants are lucky
right now, because Jackson Dart clearly looks like a guy
that can handle New York.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
He has the moxie, he has the presence, he has
the fans, he's got everything.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No idea how long he's actually gonna be physically able
to play football. But there's something to being able to
handle playing in New York and when you go to
the Jets, that's kind of what it is. Go back
the past decade.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
All the players they have had, right that have either
started in New York, gone someplace else and succeeded, Gino Smith,
Sam Darnold, right, you've seen this, or started someplace else, succeeded,
gone to the Jets and stunk, then gone someplace else
and succeeded. Aaron Rodgers. Certain guys, certain places are really
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difficult to handle. And be in the quarterback for the Jets,
it's almost an impossible thing. Even Joe Flacco was great
in Baltimore. Now he's been really good in a couple
of places, been really good filling in in Cincinnati, really
good when he jumped off his couch to fill in Cleveland,
Awful with the Jets, New York it's just it's a
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different kind of place and it's and sometimes it's not
so much that the Jets fail at quarterback, it's that
guys aren't ready for it. And no matter who they picked,
they're so rare the player that can handle New York
and playing there that trying to get him it's like
needle in a haystack. Right, we think this guy's gonna
be able to handle the pressures of playing in New
York and especially with the Jets, but they can't. And
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so there's sometimes there's now you see the reason why
these guys been able to go someplace else and succeed,
because you're not under that spotlight, even in LA. Like
Matthew Stafford went from boy everybody hated him in Detroit
and now he's in LA He's a number two market.
But yeah, that's kind of off the right. He's able
to do his own thing. But every place else. Sam
Darnold had to go to a couple places and then
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in Minnesota and Seattle he found success.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Gino Smith had to go to Seattle. Maybe it's just
Seattle Seattle to find success. Joe Flacco, Hey, I was
able to go to Cleveland and Cincinnati, Oh, the greater
state of Ohio able to find success. And the one
guy the Jets had in the last twelve years that
seemed to be able to handle it. The Jets low
balled and wind up leaving. And that's Ryan Fitzpatrick. He
could handle New York. He found a way to be
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able to handle it. And the Jets and Woodie Johnson, oh, yeah,
we don't know if we want to pay him. No,
the dude can handle playing in that big spotlight. Not
many people can. So I don't always want to put
it on the Jets as being a team that hey,
because you got to think at some point, with a
different GM, different head coach, they're going to draft enough quarterbacks,
they're going to get one right. But when the one
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common denominator is no matter who it is, they're failing
sometimes as well. New York isn't made for everybody, whether
it's dealing with the media, dealing with the pressure, dealing
with the fallout, dealing with the immediacy of having to succeed,
dealing with the fact that no one's patient with your
head coaches. It's a really tough place to play, and
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especially when the you know, the Giants are more of
a heritage team that they do things right. They have
a better team that's a better setup than the Jets do.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So that is that is.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Partly Jets, but you know, mostly though a large part
of it is there's not a lot of guys can
handle and the Jets just haven't been able to draft
the guy in the last decade because it's really difficult
to do. Yeah, it's been interesting to watch the flow,
right because the Giants still trade on reputation.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But what is this coach six or seven? Since Tom
Goughlin and his red face walked away. I mean, they've
been basically on the treadmill with the next coach up
and Dable the latest. And now we'll see what Kafka
does and whether he gets to retain the job. But
we talk about different points and touch points of the
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Jets over the last fifteen years or so. You've got
the two years Sanchez and the defense going to the
title game. You have the year before Brett Farrov was
great until his arm fell off. Chad Pennington had his
moments pop gun arm, arm fell off, that was the
end of him.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You had a brief run.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Josh McCown actually had some pretty good numbers eighteen to nine,
five rushing touchdowns, quarterback rating about ninety five, couldn't stay healthy,
which gave you five games four games of Bryce Petty.
There you go, there's a name from the past, and
just go on down the line, Sam Darnold into Luke Falk,
into Trevor Simeon, Zach Wilson, Mike White, all of these
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guys with their cups of coffee.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Difficult plays to play. Saying.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You mentioned Matthew Stafford in Detroit, and there's some people
that still haven't come off of their stance on him. Right.
He was everybody all the quarterback's favorite quarterback. Guy that
I rude, you know, and hated when he was on
the schedule watching him with playing up against the Bears,
and what he and Calvin Johnson were able to do.
Comes out, he wins the Super Bowl. Now we're talking
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about Hall of Fame. Now we're trying to put him
over the last twenty five years in the NFL. Where
does he rank among quarterbacks. It's gonna be pretty high
what he and McVeigh have done here, but it's not
the same level of juice like I do a week
in the Weekly Baltimore spot and they ask, you know,
buzz I'm like, oh buzz i, man, little a little
bit of what the Chargers can be. The Rams just
(15:14):
go about their business like there's no excitements, Like all right,
that's what Matthew Stafford is. At this point, it's just accepted.
Just get it's really hard.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
To find that guy that can handle New York and
the Jets search is gonna continue.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Rogers ran with that flag with such poise. That was good.
That was Olympic worthy.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean that was better than Will Ferrell with the
ribbons during old school exit out about a Fresco exit
swalling home. Jason Smith Mike Harmon, just something to understand
for the Jets. It's not always all their fault. Most
time it is, but not always coming up next, big
controversy for the Ale and the nl MVPs today.
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Speaker 2 (16:42):
This time it counts.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
We got more football on the way, but finishing with
a flourish This week, Al and NL MVP Awards giving
out today show Heyo Tana, You're unanimous winner in the
National League and in a.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Very close vote three fifty five to three thirty five,
Aaron Judge wins back to back MVPs over cal Raley controversy.
Did someone get screwed? Gonna surprise you with our takes
because they're fine. The awards are fine. In August, Kyle
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Schwarber was the MVP over show Hey Otani what he
was able to do when you can argue their importance
to each team and maybe this year.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
A little bit more importance.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Kyle Schwarber to the Phillies than show hated the Dodgers
because Bryce Harper is just good now. I remember we
told you that, and I'm sure you know, listen to Phillies.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Look Phillies.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
GM said, Hey, Bryce Harper's just good now you congratulations.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
That's from me.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Bryce. Hey, there you go, you're just a good player.
Schwarber was, was it. They don't run away with that division.
They don't do anything they do without this season. Schwarber
had right, But Otani September was terrific and he came
back to pitching.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So I get it. I'm okay with it. I'm okay
with it being unanimous. If you know, okay, Otani's just
a DH. Well, then he started pitching. Kyle Schwarber is
just a designated hitter. He did a lot, but September.
I'm a big proponent that September is a big deal.
Now it's not how you start, it's how you finish
and where you go and and how O'tani played. I
am eminently okay with Otani winning winning the way he is.
(18:22):
And basically, maybe you got to create a new award
because Otani seems like he's gonna win it now for
the next few.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Years well and always unanimously. That's where it comes downimous
crazy kind of does that get him an extra precious
medal award along the way, because it can't just be
any hunk of medal. I mean, this has got to
be special for years like that. Is it in the
shape of a unicorn. But all that to say, the September,
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between pitching and getting back on the mount of what
he meant there, the Dodgers did not have the season
many anticipated, right, a lot of anxious moments down the
stretch division wise and l.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Wise and certainly all the way through to the topitle.
But take it up till October.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
First, he starts pitching that final run as they ramped
him and the other starters up, and for September he
hits well over three hundred with more power uh and
more home runs and RBIs than Schwarber who hit two
oh four. You also have Trey Turner, who finished fifth
in National League MVP voting, So you've got a little
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bit of that that starts creeping in because he had
a bigger September as they tried to close things out,
so you know, no shock there. Juan Soto finishes third,
four first play or four second place votes. Uh. And
then per Domo of the Diamondbacks finishing fourth with a
bunch of fourth place votes for him. But yeah, just
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the curiosity. But there's really no argument here.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It was just a question. It wasn't going to be
unanimous again, and it was.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I'm just I'm just sitting here saying, of course, I
can't look at it and not be depresco boy. The
Mets missed the playoffs, and we had three guys finishing
the top ten. And yeah, still we missed the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well, I mean, Paul Scheme's finished six. What's that get him?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, four more years in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Congratulations, nothing can stop that now.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I mean Pikrow Armstrong still finish top ten. He didn't
do anything.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, second, I was about I was okay, I think
those are people that turn in their ballots in July fourth.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I want to be done. I don't want to have anything.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They took the holiday and turned it in. I probably
I'm gonna forget about this. He's gonna finish strong, he's
gonna be really good. Fun So I was a little depressive. Yeah,
we had three guys in the top ten. Uh so Otani,
no problem. Now you get to the net, you get
to the American League, and this is where the real
big take is. But it's not where you think it's
from cal Rawley. As soon as this got announced, cal
Raley got ripped, but got rooked out of this. It
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was you know, cal Rawley played, you know, catcher and
Aaron Judge was more demanding position. He had a season
unlike any catcher in the history of Major League Baseball. Yeah,
I'm with you on that. I'm absolutely with you. There's
no argument.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yes, you want to debate the merits of what both
of them have done. Yeah, certain things you can't just ignore.
You can't say, oh, it doesn't matter cal Rowley's batting
average doesn't matter all the other things. No, no, no, if
you want to say the other things matter, that sixty
one runs is a big deal. Hitting two forty also matters. Right,
you can't just sit and cherry pick and say, oh, why.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Does it matter what that is?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
No, because I'm not What are you gonna say? What
does it matter that Aaron Judges ops was you know
one point seven like Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
That's Aaron Judge hit eight points higher. Aaron Judge hitting
three forty is a really big deal. You can't just say,
well it batting average doesn't matter. No, it all matters
when when you break it all down what they do hitting, Yeah,
it breaks off about the same. So yeah, I get
why the vote is close. It's not that cal Rawley
lost when Aaron Judge had a garden variety year for
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a Yankee slugger.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Right, if Aaron Judge had forty home runs and one
hundred RBIs and he hit two eighty, I would say, okay, yeah,
you got rooked out of it. And this was Hey,
Aaron Judges is you know, getting the beneficiary of being
just a you know, he's a Yankees. Of course people
have voted for him. No, Aaron Judge put up insane numbers.
So yeah, I get the fact that Judge wins the MVP.
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The bigger the bigger thing here is something we talked
about a couple months ago. And when you think about
the names on this list, it's gonna blow your mind.
This is the third MVP now for Aaron Judge, and
now back to back thirty three.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
He's probably got about four or five elite years to
hit left. Eventually he'll turn to be just a designated hitter.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But defensively, An'll talk of defensively moving from senator right
field much better for him, I mean, because his center
field highlight for the rest of his career is gonna
be dropping the fly Ball World Series. So but Aaron
Judge still has three four more elite years left. And
if it's one or two more MVPs, you're talking about
five MVPs, and and and only Barry Bonds is gonna
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have more. He's going to finish his career as one
of the top five Yankees of all time. And not
just Hey, I'm gonna sneak into the top five safely
in the top five, right and okay for most teams
that go okay, well, yeah, what you're talking about. He's
one of the top five Rays of all time. All right,
you're one of the top five padres of all time.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
With the Rais does wayde Boggs got his three thousand
hit as a member of it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It was a run.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That's a big deal. James Shields one of the top
five Rays of all time. Yea, his name nickname was
big Game James. He never won a big game. That's
the whole thing. He never won a big game.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Uh hopefully you know he.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Gave Worthy some money for that. Uh you know that
means one thing.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Top five Brewers of all time, top five Nationals, all
top five Yankee of all time. Think about some of
the guys that he's going to surpass, because this is
a list that goes Ruth, Gerig, DiMaggio, Bearra Mantle, Jeter,
Whitey Ford, Like, these are the guys. These are the famous,
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most famous Yankees of all time, Roger Morris, Reggie Jackson,
these are the guys he is going to blow pass.
Mariano Rivera. These are the guys he is going to
leap frog and be one of the top probably top
three players of all time in Yankee history. It's probably
gonna go in some kind of order. Ruth, Jeter and Judge,
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I mean really Jeter, because of the championships three thousand,
It's it's hard to argue with Derek Jeter playing shortstop
the captain, I mean, yes, are you a little bit
of prisoner of the moment, yeah, But still the titles,
the championships, the numbers the judge is gonna have is
gonna be better than Mantle, better than Maris, better than Demaggio.
I mean, yeah, this is I mean fifty six game
hitting street for Demaggio. But look at Aaron Judge's numbers.
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When you get to the end, what it's gonna be.
He's gonna be safely in the top five of Yankees
of all time. And that's mind blowing. The most historic
and prestigious franchise in the history of sports has had
no shortage of superstars come through their doors and play.
Tony Lazari, I mean, gotten to him, all these all
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these different players the Yankees have had, and Judge is
gonna be in the top five.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I was having fun going through a a list of
a blog called Pinstripe Valley, Right, so they ranked their
all time Yeke, this is ahead of twenty twenty four,
so it is not capdated, so hang a star on it.
At that point they had Judge sixteenth. He since one
two MVPs, Ruth Mantle, Garrig Jeter at the top, DiMaggio fifth.
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To put it in perspective for Damago's all time stats,
he finished with three hundred and sixty one career home runs.
Judge has three sixty eight. Yeah, right, still going, still
going right now again different times. And this is where
when we start comparing eras it gets into the fun.
All right, who did this guy have to play against?
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Wear and tear on the body, all of those things.
All we can do is we've got the numbers, right.
Not everybody's been there to go back. I can't go
back in the way back machine. Sherman and Peabody ain't
walking me through. Do I get to walk these guys
career day to day? But what we watched Judge already
five times, the top five MVP finalist, three wins. That's
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there's only thirteen guys in baseball history that have won
three or more MVP awards. He and Otani are in
that club. It's rarefied air when you look at it.
Twenty two retired jerseys.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
For the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
As you go down that list and thinking about the
history that they have, guys like Louisiana Lightning, Ron Gidrey
and the career that he had, Thurman Munson forever etched
in history, Pasada with his big moments that he had
along the way. Andy Pettitt, the guy that everybody forgets
actually is on lists and dad to say sorry.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Cares exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But all of that to say, like this, it's a
robust list when you talk about the all time greats,
these Yankee numbers and the legend and some of it. Again,
the way the league was set up to go, and
some of those World Series titles, if they had to
go through the number of series they do in games,
and maybe it's a different world. I can't take that
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away from these guys from what they We won the
American League, we got the Cardinals in the World Series. Wait,
that's next, Yes, we go right, right, series, let's go.
What do you got, Frostburg.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Everything you guys Jeff said about it is great in
all but there's only one stat that matters in New York.
What's that World Series Championships. It's impossible for Judge to
ever crack. I don't know about that unless he wins
a couple I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well, yeah, yeah, that is a thing. He has more
drops the World Series than he does. That is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That is that is But that's that's wow, that's rough. Uh,
it's it's no World Series tough to do that. It's
hard to blame an individual player for not winning except
for that drop fly. Yeah, the drop play ball was
But remember we're down three games to one anyway. It's
not like if he caught the fly ball the Yankees
were winning the series. They were down three to one anyway,
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they were gonna lose. Well, I mean, this was the
final dagger. This is a vital stake in the heart.
If you're a vampire, we got bam.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It's it's Football and basketball are different because it's easier
for the best players to lead their team to championships. Right,
you only have five guys on the court in basketball,
You're gonna your amount of time with the basketball and
affecting the game much more than a player ken in
Major League Baseball. Because of baseball, but it's gonna bat
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four times a game. You gotta wait till the ball
gets hit to him. Right, Quarterbacks in the NFL, they
have much more control over there on the field half
the time. Right, Great players that get the football a lot,
they have much more control. There's less control in baseball,
Like you know, outside of the steroid stuff and the
Balco stuff. Barry Bond's like, okay, I can't blame him
for not winning a World Series. Like Barry Bonds is
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an unbelievable career right now, and he finally had a
World Series where he was great and he would have
been the MVP two thousand World Series, but the Angels
just happened to beat them.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yes, he was rough in the playoffs before, but this
is this is a case where he could have done that.
There's guys with incredible careers and it's not always their
fault they don't get to the World Series. I'm not
gonna blame Bryce Harper for not winning World Series. I'll
blame Bryce Harper and say, dude, you've become You went
from being a terrific great player to being a good player.
Are you get a good player for five years? Are
you gonna start playing a violin? Thinking of the Ernie
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Banks and some of those other guys the all time grade,
It's like I gotta even sniff to play. Harper left
the Nationals they won the World sick man.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
But I can't got it. That kind of kills a
lot of argument for him.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I can't ding him for not winning the World Series.
Why not, because it's it's much these you have you
have much? Well, look when when the Yankees won the
World Series, there's eight teams in the American League, eight
teams in the National League, and you go right from
winning the American League to the World's. No, but it's
it's a much easier path than it is that than
what happens now. It's a much easier path.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Now you've got a one hundred and sixty two games
you gotta win, you gotta win three rounds of playoffs,
and then you gotta that's a it's a it's a
mountain to climb to go Cashman getting stuff right.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
The top five in Yankees history without World Series title.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, no, no, no, a top five Yankee career overall,
even with winning the World Series. Yes, without the World Series?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think it makes for a fun discussion, right because
how much weight that has, right, Because Jeter doesn't win
four as part of the you know, with core four
and all that fun stuff doesn't matter, right, he doesn't
have a pile of World Series rings. He's he's a
guy that was a stat aggregator that played in New
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York Exit out about a Fresca exit swelling down the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon Time.
How to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports with someone who's been called the Aaron Judge
of Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
She's our MVP, even though half the country seems to disagree.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's mantis.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's good.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Yeah, guys, we have a perfect Talloween costume for next year.
You can dress up as Aaron Judge dressing up as
the Rock.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Today. Yeah yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He looked just like the Rock.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
The Turtle Mack with the chain and the haircut look
very similar. So you can dress up as Aaron Judge
dressed up. If you're gonna be Aaron Judge, bring dog.
You had two dogs with him today.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Oh okay, so.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Instead of the fanny pack and the dog.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Is how you differentiate? Is that a word?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Differentiate?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Different Thank you?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
We were there, we were close.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's how you differentiate.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I'm an English to great, so I'm good. I'm good
with words and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That is how we separate the two.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I would just go with Aaron Judge and have people
toss me a ball and I would just keep dropping
it like that's that's all.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Aaron Judge driving and see that might go over a.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Lot of folks.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's okay, I'm okay, you don't get it. Listen, you're
not smart enough to get my Halloween costumes. Judge it
sounds you sound.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Like a salty Jets and Mets fan.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I'm Jason Smith. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You're new here.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Apparently apparently differentiate.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's not right?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Differentiate?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Differentiate?
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Okay, great, let's differentiate between the Patriots and the Jets.
That kicked off Week eleven of the NFL. New England
wins at twenty into fourteen, extending their winning streak to eight.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Drake May He completed.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Twenty five and thirty four passes two hundred and eighty
one yards on a touchdown that went to Travon Henderson.
We also had nineteen carries for sixty two yards and
two touchdowns on the ground. Justin fields was fifteen of
twenty six one hundred and sixteen yards. He also had
a touchdown in the air, plus eleven carries for sixty
seven yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
On the ground.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Here is his head coach, Aaron Glenn talking about his performance.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Listen, there are some good things. That's some really good things.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I thought he puts some balls out there, and we
got to have some guys.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
That make some plays for him too. Obviously, I know
for a fact that he's going to say there are
some things that he could have done better.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Again, we do have to wash the tape. But I
thought there were some good things he did out there,
some good things.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
New England and Bruceton nine and two. New York falls
to two and eight. As Week eleven continues over the weekend,
the Texans have ruled out CJ.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Stroud.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
They're going to have Davis Smills start at quarterback against
the Titans. Forty nine Ers quarterback brock Perty will start
in Week eleven. He hasn't played since Week four because
of his toe injury. No practice today for Broncos running
back JK. Dot Ben's Chiefs twenty back Isaiah Pacheco and
Lions tight end Sam Laporta. In baseball, Yeah, Aaron Judge
has won the AL MVP for a second consecutive season.
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He receives seventeen of the thirty first place votes. The
other thirteen went to Cal Raley. This is Judge's third MVP.
Shoheyo Tani unanimously won the National League MVP award for
a second consecutive season. He's only the second player to
win for MVPs. When it comes to the NBA three
games on Thursday night, the Hawks top the Jobs won
thirty two to one twenty two Jalen Johnson thirty one points,
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eighteen rebounds, fourteen assists and seven steals. The Suns beat
the Pacers won thirty three to ninety eight, and the
Raptors outscored the Cavaliers won twenty six to one thirteen.
In the NHL, the games have wrapped up officially while
we're going to overtime between the Islanders and the Golden
Knights third tied at three goals, I believe. And then
when it comes to the Jets and the Kraken, did
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that one wrap up?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Did it officially wrap up?
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Not yet?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Maybe five three cracking eye.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Join fields turned the ball over.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Yeah, sorry, the Jets loss cracking one three The I
want to say in NBA history, Okay, he like that's
how close he was to a quadruple double tonight.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Only one player has gotten a quadruple double with steals,
and it's Alvin Robertson. All the other quadruple doubles are
all blocked. All big men with blocks block shots. Right,
it's all points, rebounds, assists and blocks. I think there's
only one triple double with assists. We'll have to get
the crack research staff. You have to get the great
researcher Sarah Langs.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
To get a freelance into some basketball for us a
little bit, how about that. But getting after that, I
shortened g to that one World series, So I'm sorry,
that's all right. I was thinking core four four if
Dad's gonna kick your ass, but that's okay. I came
back and I credited it too. It's gonna hit you
with something really hard. Oh, Harmon, I got something bam
(34:50):
coming up next. Evidence the NFL just wants to take
big fun away from every single fan and fun player.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
That's next. Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Fox Forest Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Jason, can you ride your bike with no handlers?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I was really good riding with no hands. I was reading.
It took me a while to learn, but I was
really good riding with no hands. Yeah. My next door neighbor,
Billy Jones. Billy Jones was a unicyclist.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He used to be able to ride to the corner
and do this thing. He had a bike that would
just and he used to be able to ride with
no hands. He would get to the corner and just
like shift his weight and turn the bike left and
stay with no hands. I was like, Wow, that's the
greatest thing ever seen in my life. And then he
would get it and then be able to do it
again and turn and go back, and like, wow, I
(35:52):
want to be able to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Was he able to monetize that in any way? Show? No, No,
it was the seventies. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Seems like a lot of way to make a lot
of effort and risk now no reward.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Now we could go on like X Factor or something.
Get the girls with that move?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Nah, No, that was more of a hey, I'm impressing
the neighborhood kids than hey, girls going I gotta get
next to him.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
No, that wasn't the trying I was hoping for the
gay Yeah, no, no it was really it was a
pretty good trailer, Like, well, I can't believe he could
do that right with no hands? Now, Uh, the NFL
wants to give you no report cards.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
No report cards.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
One of the most fun days of the year in
the NFL is when we get the report cards for
the teams, where it's been a it's been a tradition
the last few years, an anonymous survey of players where
they rank their teams for certain things like how they
serve food in the cafeteria to what kind of childcare
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they have available. And you see the teams that do
well and get a's and teams that do horrible and
get s the food and the Cincinnati Bengals food is terrible.
And I'm just saying that because I remember the Bengals
being the bottom a lot of things. And that's one
of the most fun days in the NFL because you
get to find out what teams are doing things really
good for their players and what teams just fail at humanity.
(37:10):
So it's kind of a fun thing coach owner, food, travel,
weight room, and treatment of family categories. However, the NFL
doesn't want us to have this information, as they have
filed a grievance against the NFLPA asking the union to
stop its annual team report cards. They say the exercise
violates the CBA by airing public criticism of teams. The
(37:34):
owner who's at The head of this, of course, is
Jets owner Woody Johnson, who I believe.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
What do you get? D's gotten? D's the last wee yay?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
B for a coach, Yeah, okay, have for the owners,
C minus for food, C plus for travel, yeah, C
plus for weight room, and C minus for the treatment
of family C minus, if you recall, was the I
just don't want to look at you for another semester. Yeah,
here's your gray to pass you by.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
And this is crappy on so many levels, and I
can just defend it by saying this, Hey, NFL owners,
how about you do better. How about you own a
team and you treat everybody like they should be treated.
They put their bodies on the line for you, and
they have a bad quality of life when they get
done playing in the NFL. How about you give them
like good food in the cafeteria. How About you make
(38:23):
sure that there's childcare ready for them. How about you
make sure that the travel is okay.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You have the money, you own an NFL team, You're
worth billions and billions of dollars. How about you run
it right because you know what's gonna happen then, is
in free agency when a team is went, well, do
I go here? Do I go here?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Hey? Man, they do everything right.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
You want to talk about being able to help you
find housing and be able to take care of your kids. Oh,
this team does it right. How about you spend little
money on that.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
How about you take care of the guys put their
bodies on the line for you all the way through.
I don't think that's a lot to ask of NFL owners.
Instead of saying no, bury it because it makes us
look bad. Do better as people, do better as human beings.
That's all I would say. Let's see July twenty third,
twenty twenty five NFL teams reportedly received how much money
per team? Four hundred and thirty two million dollars.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
One hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So when we talk about food, right, the running joke
equated back to the a's and money ball of the
money's on the field, right.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I don't want to pay for a dollar. Where on
the field is the dollar that I'm paying for soda? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It's hard to see. It's kind of hard to see,
but it's that right. It's very much that part of it.
And even if this isn't done formally, yeah, you're telling
me that's not being done informally by by agents, by
like groups of people throughout the league. Everybody talks now
it's this is just the aggregation of that.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
This is the efficient question.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Instead of hey, i've heard rumors of it. This makes
it okay, great, Okay, this is great because it's not
that the players criticize it. It's like, here's a matter
of fact. If you want to add the anecdote those
shouldn't get out, I'll listen to that. Booooo, we got
more football on the way next. A tale of two
head coaches in different directions off
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