July 22, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's all about the T shirt. The T shirt is everything.
What does it mean? We'll explain in a second. Yes,
and once again going to my deep reservoir of film history,
Mike Harmon alongside Chris Blake. No Jason Smith tonight or
this week he's off on vacation. If you have any
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need to know of these things as we traverse and
get ready for another season of Lions football. David Montgomery
with some big comments we'll get to a little bit
later on in the show, because we gotta get some
NFL predictive kind of things in here. Chris Blank As
(01:14):
we roll through seventh inning stretch here in Los Angeles,
Dodgers now four to one lead over Minnesota. Go back
to that leadoff home run from Buxton. It's been all
Dodgers to run homer for Otani, followed by two solo
Will Smith shots as we go into the bottom of
the seventh.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Hmmm, feeling like you're adding a little bit more to
that lead in the west right now, let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Look at you getting all excitable, right It's still very
still got a couple more innings of bullpens to go.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
That's what I was telling Frostburg during the break, like,
did I let this get to the bullpenper go? Just
just keep it within three or four ruds, it would
be good to go.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, now it goes out to a slam as pahz
the goat in all the wrong ways over the weekend,
he hits his so home run, his eighteenth of the year.
There we go, and it's now a five to one Dodger.
Lee spoke that into existence, the one oh five and
a half mile per hour exit velocity for you.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They're playing love it. I like that, kid. I don't
know what this future looks like. I don't know if
he's holding down a spot until these young guns get
ready to jump up to the show. But I like
him even if he can't see a line and drive
to centerfield.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well that's the beauty and horror of the Dodgers, because
you're like, they have these prospects, deal them, send them away,
bring in schemes, bring in whatever power arm you need. Nope, Nope,
that's not how we do things around here. We're not
giving away the best guys. Now, the quote I threw
out there, it's all about the T shirt. Remember the
two thousand classic, almost famous of the young journalist on
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the road with the rock band. Uh as they roll
through and it becomes a fight within the band about
the obscuring of the rest of the band members behind
the lead guitarists. Yeah, that's right. And so when we
talk about the T shirt, well, the w NBA All
Star Weekend has now been symbolically reduced down to a
(03:11):
T shirt. Pay us what you owe us. Kelsey Plumb
and others, in talking about the decision to wear set
apparel in the warm ups, said well, there was nobody
there for Team Clark, So I appreciate the pettiness to
a degree to a degree, right, And that's been the
story of the WNBA for the last couple of years.
(03:35):
Plenty of memes flowing out of it, and and some
of it is just snark, Like we talk about here
the way we traverse the world of sports talk and
have our own snarky opinions and dismissive attitudes towards certain
things that maybe not as my daughter would say when
we were first introducing different food, she'd look at you
(03:55):
and say, not my favorite. Okay, So you know, maybe
it didn't hit the road quite as frequently for Kelsey
Plumb and for others. They've taken every chance they have
to say, hey, we were here, we're stars in our
own right. It's not all about Caitlin Clark. We can
do things without her affecting it. Although when we talk
about the current state of affairs and what were they
(04:16):
talking about, well, the CBA, right, they had a big
pow wow, forty ish strong showing up to hear proposals
and have discussions about the state of the union, Chris
coming away with nothing substantive from several players seemingly dejected
by the fact that they didn't make any strides towards
(04:38):
a new labor agreement that'll expire in October. Now you
got thirteen teams and eventually expanding towards eighteen. By twenty thirty,
we saw the Valkyries come in at a big valuation,
at a big price. We look at what the salary
cap is, very widely distributed as you go through, looking
(05:00):
at one point five million dollars per team, the floor
is one point two six million thus far, and this
is why players are playing overseas. The pay us what
you owe us. We've watched revenues increase markedly. They've got
a new two billion dollar TV deal that has been
brokered amongst several purveyors that'll be part of that package
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going forward. But as of now, the players receive nine
percent of revenue. And I see a lot of comparisons
one to one with other leagues, and immediately it becomes
a well, they've lost so much money. No, it's a
percentage of revenue, right that the other players get. When
we talk about CBAS, it's not a percentage of profit
(05:44):
that's brokered in. And obviously we talk about the WNBA
and trying to guesstimate over the last two decades, the
annual loss that has been incurred by the NBA and
other backers. But we're in a different world, right, You've
got different the apparel companies, the makeup companies, all that,
the iHeart Women's Sports channel, they've got fifteen shows in
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a year, right, and a bunch of founding partners there.
And you talk about all these other you know, the
new shoe deals, new apparel deals. I did like that.
Caitlin Clark got snarky in her own right, saying, hey,
thanks for the Nike ad because it was a half
a swoosh behind one of the photos that Kelsey Plumb
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had on one of the red carpet events. So that
was good. All snark for snark, little slap fighting in that.
But you're talking about a two billion dollar TV deal
that's been signed. Money is coming and you're getting in advancement.
Now what percentage over the nine percent needs to come
into play? I don't know, but certainly we're looking where
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they're going, and not necessarily, as far as I'm aware,
do they have to make restitution for past if at all?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Right? I wonder too, because you mentioned the new franchise,
I mean, Mark Davis and the Ace is going back
a little bit too. I wonder how much of you know,
seeing the nine percent drove them to want to be
a part of this say hey, okay, this this is
a pretty good deal. And again you've made this point
(07:17):
that so many people have not because everyone wants to
be outraged. I'm not gonna lie to you. I thought
the short the shirts were kind of ill timed, just
because no one really understands the TV deal right that's
coming up for them, and everyone sees them look treating
Caitlin Clark like, oh well, this thing has been this
this famous and this big without here not necessarily, but
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you're one of the first people that I've heard that
just points out, hey, bottom line, they got a new
TV deal that is gonna bring them in significantly more money.
And what led to us finally changing the way that
we had the pay structure in college sports, massive TV
deals that the student athletes weren't sharing, of course, limiting
their right to make money. It's a little different story,
(08:01):
not the best comparison, but Mike, I'm here to tell you,
I I find I find myself in a position where
I I don't have a problem with the WNBA. I mean,
so many people act outraged by this, Hey, let them,
Let them do what they want. Did it take away
from your All Star viewing experience?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Might have been short sighted from them if you even
watch the All Star Game. Sure, but this is the
attack that they're going with. They're trying to be more aggressive.
Let's see if it works. That's oh gosh, why did
I just forget the line from Dodgeball with a Jason
Bateman's character. The interest is old strategy. That's a bold strategy, Cotton.
We'll see how it works out. But they feel like
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with the investment that's been made in yeah, the NBA,
the NBA hasn't. No one's made money off this league
outside of certain teams in their market. But that's again,
that's not the point in this whole thing. We all
were in some way, shape or form for a company.
This probably not turning a massive profit, but yet there's
that investment in personnel and in wanting to make sure
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that you do keep the old, the old butter shirt
in the clock running if you will. And I think
I think they're gonna up getting a pretty nice little
chunk out of this. Might not be what they want,
might not be what they deserve.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I'm not even in that world, but I do think
that it's something that we need to quit being just
so damn negative about. I mean, they wore the shirt
I was. I was listening getting ready for I was
feeling in for Bernie, and you would have thought that
some of these some of these women had personally assaulted
people that I was listening to on the air. It's like,
oh my gosh, how dare they It's like, well, I mean,
(09:32):
they're just trying to make a point. It's labor strife.
It's what we deal with on a day and a
day on basis. I don't know how you feel about it, Mike,
but you know, I hope that they get what they
want to continue to play basketball. But my mind is
so fired up about football, and my might, Mike, just
head is so much in college football. I saw that.
I was like, huh, well, good for them, all right,
let's move on here. It's just it doesn't really register
(09:53):
with me as something that I'm losing my mind over
like many are.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, I just enjoy the business side of it and
trying to parse out between what is pettiness right the
plumb stuff at the podium of Hey we did this
without Caitlin Clark. Ahaha. And you go back and you
look at the revenue growth, which was already in place
for a couple of years before Caitlyn Clark arrived, but
gets there's no doubt it's been taken too. But that's
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the point, is right. The last year when you start
talking about advertising rates, you talk about how many of
the network games feature the fever, which is this is
the worst case scenario, all right, Steve laid it out,
and she's missing her twelfth game tomorrow, so yes, while
she's cheerleading, and even if you got a boost in
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ratings for some portion of the three Point Contest and
probably the All Star Game to a degree, yeah, she
was on there and she's she's got a bit of
smart ass to her. So that's always of added value,
certainly to a broadcast and going to bring folks in
the curiosity you have more people tuned in, which means
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if you're going to make a statement and force the
subject into folks ears, they're probably not gonna click on
an article link. But why are they wearing these shirts?
What does it mean the broadcast has to address it?
Or if you go online you're gonna type in what
does this line mean? And it's gonna give you a
quick synopsis from the AI generator about the labor negotiations
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that are going on, and you get a primer. You
either in or you're out, and if you move on, great.
It's the old Kevin Durant line that we run on
the show all the time, one of the greatest contributions.
He's a Hall of Famer and a world class guy.
He traverses in the trading card world, so we're kindred
spirits there. But the line he used many years ago
quote if you don't like it, don't watch unquote. But
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it still affects and it's still part of our larger
sports business, and to ignore it completely, to me is
just foolhardy by some of our compatriots in this sport.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Well, what I'm just gonna say, some educate learn me.
So what is a good deal for them? What is
it in your like Nerdy in the weeds opinion of
what's going to be a fair deal for them and
a good deal for the WNBS.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, I think as you go through you try to
figure out where between that nine percent and the the
fifty that you have on the other side. You know,
you have to account for some of the losses in
the past. I think some folks would love to get
some of those initial startup funds back, But I don't
know what those contracts look like. I don't think any
(12:29):
of us do. Right, were they supposed to get paid
back once we start hitting you know, the proverbial in
the black. I don't know. But the Valkyrie's valuation was
half a billion dollars, right, So we're talking substantive monies
that are now flowing and as you add more franchises,
that means you continue you're continuing this growth. To say
(12:52):
we get twenty percent or twenty five percent, even to double,
it means that your top players are now making a
half a million dollar against revenues that are now in
excess of based on that new TV deal. And that's
not including ticket sales and everything else. I mean, that's
two hundred million dollars a year, right, fuzzy math two
billion plus divided by ten. I think we can do
(13:15):
that one. So you know, now you're talking about some
real substantive revenue that that's flowing in just from the
TV side of thing, say nothing of all the other
corporate sponsors that it would stand to reason that you
could you can double that and not bat and eye
based on the growth of the league. Again, what you
have to pay for in arrears, I'm not privy to that.
(13:36):
I don't think any of us are, or if it's
been disseminated, I don't know it. But but all of
that to say, you know, you're in a good place
in a growing industry, which means you know, if you're
the WNBA and and the leadership and the ownership groups,
you're looking around going you know, we're still we're still
just getting into hyper growth at this point.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And then just one one final thought, and I know
we're up against it. But you said that the losses
don't matter. Why Why is that? Why would the forty
mil or the thirty mil that they've lost. Why is
that irrelevant for dummies like me in this conversation. So
I don't think I don't think it is. But I
question how much of the contracts are hey we need
(14:18):
to get back are whatever that investment was right? If
it was the NBA, right, is it just something you
funded as part of a good will or was there
a business park attached in terms of repayment? Right, Hey,
I'm your angel investor. But I get ten percent of
dollar one. You know, you know what I mean, Like,
(14:39):
I don't. I don't know what those deals are, and
I don't think that's ever been laid out. We didn't
just give you all this money for the league. We
want there's money.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Something in return, you know, if it actually does turn
a profit, do we get it back? Right? I was watching,
you know, because I'm a nerd the Gilded Age HBO.
You know, one of my many subscriptions, I gotta get
my money's worth. Guy invented a claw, but to order
to put in for the patent, he needed to get
everybody to give him a buck or two. He didn't
have the dollars. So now that it's gotten paid out,
(15:07):
now everybody's starting to come, well, what percentage do I get? Well,
they never disgusted it, so you can already see it coming,
these seeds of discontent. Well, I want some of that
catch that he got for his clock bat for selling
it off. Same thing here, who put in the most money,
who's got the most skin in the game? And do
they get paid paid off off the back end off
of what in arrears? Or is it just Hey, looking forward,
(15:30):
we all feast on what's to come. That's the curious thing,
and if Adam Silver would give us an answer on that,
I'd be really curious.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
There you go, because there's always a catch, there's always well.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
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Speaker 4 (18:10):
I really like whenever you use the Pacific time zone.
It makes it seem so much more bearable and doable.
What's the week like? I know Dan's in a couple
of nights, right, Dan Bayer? Yeah, we got.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Jared Smith tomorrow. So we'll get into some futures and
some of those things as you start to go into
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as well as the general sports World Buyer Wednesday and Thursday,
and then Arnie on Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And then Jason Backed a week from today.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
In theory, if he comes back from Detroit, we'll see.
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It'll just full on be the Mike Harmon Show. We'll
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he has really amped up his sports trivia knowledge.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Stepping up in the world there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And then he got Frostburg who's just over the moon
with the wonderful world of Charger Football, and the Dodgers
are winning tonight. Yeah makes all Well, it's our home
run fest. I mean every run in this game has
been scored via the home run from Buxton's home run,
then Otani couple for Will Smith, and then Andy Potts.
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So yeah, we get a lot of love going on
here as we watch deep into the night here on
a Monday. But we talked to earlier Jerry Jones and
labor issues. See it's labor in unions is what we're
talking about a lot here on the show. Between the
w NBA conversation from earlier in the hour and we
talked with the about the Jerry Jones situation, Micah Parsons,
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and now we go over to the curious case that
is the Cincinnati Bengals, where we know frugality has long
been associated with this franchise, as much as we love
the uniforms, going back to the days of Ken Anderson,
Boomer Assias, and Ikey Woods, all the way through to
our chad Ocho Cinco's TJ Huschmanzato our teammate here on
(20:04):
Fox Sports Radio, and so on. Joe Burrow and company
now dealing with it. Joe Burrow in the news for
some other things. You know, the theft ring has now
had at least one person caught. He said it was
going to keep him from getting that batmobile. So I
need this rectified and remedied as fast as I can.
But we've got personnel issues as well, because Shamar Stewart,
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first round draft pick, has yet to sign his deal,
and there's been a continued fight over language in this contract.
Walter Nolan signed his four year deal picked sixteen with
the Cardinals going back on June tenth. Gray Zabel signed
his on May twelfth. Meanwhile, Shamar Stewart still in the
offing as well as Trey hendrickson pass rusher, where we've
(20:48):
seen TJ. Watt and others get their deals. But Duke
Tobin had his statement at the media lunch and saying hey,
we need to get him in here. His Stewart's agent
fire back saying, well, Duke Tobin's had no involvement in
any of the talks that we've had. And then Mike
Brown said, hey, Jerry Jones, you had your take on
(21:09):
labor impass and guaranteed moneys, here's mine.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Does this one feel unique? This one is surprising. I
hesitate to get into the detail, but basically it turns
on whether out years are guaranteed if he gets involved
in conduct detrimental to football?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well, what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Detrimental to football? In recent years has been violence to women.
That's about the one that comes to mine. There are
others probably, but that's the one that I think, Well,
if we get a player who gets involved in something
like that or does something that is just unacceptable, guess
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what I want to pay him. I really don't. If
he's sitting in jail, I don't think I ought to
be paying him. And so we say that if he
got involved in conduct detrimental, we'd have the right to
terminate the guaranteed part.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So there there it is, he he said, he went,
he went and enumerated right. Jerry Jones went the he
could get hit by a bus and not be available
to us, and Mike Brown went, uh, full into circumstances,
Uh whereby you know we we he said, the what
would be the quiet part? I guess out loud in
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terms of those negotiations of what would make him unavailable?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Uh to the he only mentioned one crime.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I mean well, I mean he went to he went
to the one that has been most prevalent I guess
the last couple of years. So he did that. So
you've got that, and now it's just the the question of,
you know, whether you take offense to that or just
take it down to brass tacks. As he's trying to
talk about guarantees and avoiding out years, whether it's just
(23:09):
the year in which the offense occurred, which I guess
is part of the argument being had with the agent
versus being able to avoid out the contract for future years.
And as the NFL goes through its labor issues, we've
had peace, certainly, but with the union issues swirling in
the background. Do we necessarily know that that continues? Mike
(23:31):
Brown certainly know. How should we say spring chicken in
all of this? When you talk about he and Jerry Jones,
they've been around this game and have run their squads.
We know about I said, frugality, being kind cheap is
something that's been brought up often. And now he fights
back saying, well, we paid our wide receivers, we paid
(23:54):
Joe Burrow, leave me alone. That doesn't apply to us anymore.
But it's that converse which is uncomfortable. There's no question
about it in terms of what would keep a player
off the field, and he enumerated. Instead of just saying,
you know, things that would preclude their involvement and leaving
it as a nebulus, he decided to go into specificity
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about those. And I guess if you want to take offense,
there's plenty on the bone there.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Sure, I guess My question And what I haven't been
able to find out is this a Cincinnati Bengals specific
thing or does every team have this? And everyone but
Shamar Stewart is good with it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
As best I've been able to ascertain, it's it's fairly
standard biler plate language, and now it becomes the wealth
the specificity of trying to pull it out right, right,
I guess and say, well, we're going to avoid this
versus going case to case and you know, the larger
league process, because we've got plenty of cases that are
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still you know, out in trying to figure out how
they're going to be judicated by Goodell and Company going
to Rashi Rice, amongst others, for other infractions not enumerated
by Mike Brown.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I guess that's my whole confusion. We had a we
had something very similar to this a couple of years ago.
But if you want to fight over anything, I guess
this clause is one that I'm like, okay, just stay
out of trouble, right, you don't have to worry about it.
If it's injuries, and I get it right, I get
going to the mattresses over it and saying, hey, I
can't help if I get injured or not, because I'm
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gonna be going all out for your team. Mike Harmen,
It's just if this is if this is not just
a specific thing that the Bengals are sliding it, and
this is a league white thing, it seems odd to
fight it because I think of all the crazy things
from that Caleb Williams story. We had a couple weeks
about a couple months ago at the very fight the
slotting system. If you want, I mean fight how Oh well,
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there's not really a negotiation anymore. Here's what you're gonna
make this fight seems odd to me. By the way,
did you catch the side of this we're college where
Texas A and him fans started trying to make it
seem like Stuart was going to come.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Back to A and M No, that was certainly a
nice little side. Can't do that not happening, But yeah,
I was. Now, we've eradicated a lot of rules. I
know that one has not been not been torn asunder
to where that opportunity would be open. But yeah, we're
talking about I've seen baseball contracts in the past. I
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remember one year I was helping to teach a Baseball
and American history as an extended extension course for night
school at Northwestern when I was there working in there,
I was an administrator of financial aid and Addisons for
a couple of years before I got into this whole
loudmouth media thing. But we went we took a tour
of Wrigley Field, and we sat down with some of
(26:45):
the front office folks. You had some of the broadcasters
pop by Harry Carey being propped up by a couple
of attractive younger women because he wouldn't reuse a cane
and he wouldn't use a walker, so he used to
twenty something women to get from the limousine to the
elevator to get up into the But either way, they
handed us a contract. They're like, oh, here's several pages
(27:06):
of things they can't do, and it's all enumerated, right,
but there's always, you know, stuff you don't think of
that would fall under the guys. But we got about
two pages into the contract and anybody want to guess
who this is? I'm like, oh, I know, And I
said the name, and the guy looked at me.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Goes, why do you know that?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Like, well, this clause and this clause right here are
pretty specific to what this player has been known to
do in his off seasons. So coming to the Cubs,
they made it clearer to enumerate that those activities were
to cease if he wanted to collect their paychecks, lest
he put himself in harm. But we certainly have that
(27:44):
with NFL deals as well, where but you can only
enumerate so many things, so you want to have more
boilerplate language. But as a team, you want to protect
yourself as well. Right if things are going to be avoided,
do you want Okay, it's only avoided for this year,
but you still have to pay out years Hence where
maybe that player wasn't available year one and then comes
back year two and can't perform anywhere near that level.
(28:08):
Should you be on the hook for that guaranteed money?
You might think the wave Brown phrased it, and maybe
you can take if you want to go down the
road in terms of race as I know some have done,
and you can do it. But I don't think if
you're running a business, saying hey, I don't want to
pay out money if the guy's unable to perform for
(28:30):
the team is unreasonable as much as again the specificity
of his language here might be problematic to you.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, and oh, by the way, you know this is
a guy in schmar Stewart that you bring in that
you think is gonna help ease maybe if you can't
keep Trey Hendrickson. Now he's not there and you still
got Trey Hendrickson. That's gonna be hold out whenever Camp
gets rolling for the Bengals. So kind of an out
and out disaster on that front. But I get it.
I understand on both sides why they're doing what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I gotta say this, though, Chris, is that you know,
going back to mock drafts, for whatever those are worth.
I did have Stuart going seventeenth to the Bengals, so
I got that one right. So he eventually needs to
show up to prove me right. Otherwise I don't get
credit for the square. He'll go back in the draft
and then you'll probably project where he's going to go
next year. Look at you, I got I got eight right.
I usually get between eight and ten right.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
He bad so bad.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'll take it from my throwing darts at a board
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let's take a turn over to the news desk and
get an update on this Dodger game and everything going
on in our sporting universe with our guys. Steve Disager.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
Yeah, La up in the nine to five to one
over the Twins, you were talking about that Bengals story,
and yes, apparently in other contracts with other teams this
language to possibly void future guarantees existed. The thing is,
and this was Mike Florio's point, Pro Football took. The
Bengals themselves are trying to enforce it brand new for
the first time on someone and this first round or
(30:43):
doesn't want to be the guinea pig for that, thank you.
And the fact is they had just recently two big
contracts signed by wide receivers Chase and Higgins, and use
the old language in those and now we're trying to
use the new language for possible future voice on this
guy who yes Sjamar Stewart is still unsigned. Green Bay
(31:04):
gave tackle Zach tom a four year extension. Cowboys pass
rusher Micah Parsons reported to training camp. He wants an
extension workout start Tuesday. By the way, most NFL teams
will have their veterans report to training camp by Tuesday.
Titans quarterback Will Levis will have shoulder surgery next week.
He's out for the year. Tennessee just drafted quarterback cam Ward.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Number one overall.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
One out top of the ninth inning at Dodger Stadium. Shortly,
perhaps everything will be final in the Majors. Dodgers are
up five to one on Minnesota. They're asking Tanner Scott
to get the last four outs in this Gunner he
did get an out on a line drive to end
the eighth. Right now it's first and second one out
against the Twins in the ninth show, Hey Otani pitched
(31:48):
three innings, and then Dustin May threw one hundred pitches
in relief. Tonight, four and two thirds scoreless will Smith
with two solo homers. Otani did allow a leoff homer
to the Twins their only tally tonight, but then Otani
hit a two run homer in the bottom of the first,
his thirty fifth of the year. Aohenne O Suarez and
(32:08):
Arizona hit his thirty sixth of the season, but Houston
beat Arizona six to three. The lost to Zach Gallon
another poor start six plus innings, six runs allowed. The
Milwaukee Brewers have the best record in Major League Baseball
sixty and forty. Now that the Tigers have gone in
the tank the last week or two, Milwaukee has won
eleven in a row. They got a six to nothing
(32:30):
win at Seattle tonight. Brandon Woodriff, back from injury, got
the win, going six innings, so the Brewers lead the
Cubs by one game in the NL Central Cubs lost
at home twelve to four to Kansas City. The record
for the Brewers franchise as far as longest winning streak
goes back to nineteen eighty seven, when they started a
season thirteen to zero. The last time the Brewers had
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the best record in Major League Baseball this late in
a season was nineteen eighty two, again sixty and forty
eleven straight wins. Toronto leads the AL East by four
games over the Yankees, and Boston is six back. Toronto
beat the Yanks head to head, four to one, and
Boston was beaten on a tenth inning catcher's interference. Philadelphia
(33:13):
three to two over the Red Sox to the Phillies
first in the NL East, still a half game over
the Mets, who came back to beat the Angels seven
to five. Pittsburgh and Paul Skens beat Detroit and Jack
Flaherty three nothing. The Tigers had lost six straight until
Sunday Nights win. They got shut out on the road
tonight victories for Washington and San Diego victories for Cleveland
(33:33):
and Atlanta, which beat San Francisco nine to five. The
Giants have lost six in a row. Caitlin Clark will
miss another game on Tuesday with a groin injury. WNBA
resumes with five games Tuesday night. Veteran NBA guard Chris
Paul signed with the Clippers, who also added Bradley Beal
and Brook Lopez. This offseason, Paul, now forty years old,
was as a clipper All NBA five times Former BYU
(33:57):
quarterback Jake Rahetz Laugh is transferring to Tulane. Reminder, the
women Soccer Euros have the semi finals starting Tuesday on
Fox TV England against Italy and then on Wednesday it'll
be Germany against defending World Cup champion Spain. Pitching change
at Dodger Stadium. Kirby Yates brought in in the ninth
five to one LA lead on the Twins.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Back to you a couple of notes. First off, the
Women's Euro if you haven't watched it, some of the
best most entertaining soccer I've seen in my life.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
In Spain is largely dominant. Yeah, they've been ridiculous there
and somehow England is still in this tournament.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well, that matchup against Sweden the other day and it
goes they come back from down.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
To eightieth minute and then missed three penalty kicks in
a row at the end in the shootout and still.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Advance and still advance. And then for the Brewers and
you'll love this blank they have not lost since they
acquired Andrew Vaughan from the White.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Sit Sucks, who was a very high draft choice as
I recall, and batting won something for the White size.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, he's got a higher war in ten games for
them than he did for the Socks for years.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
War.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
There you go, Thanks Steve. That's Steve Disager at the
news desk. That's Chris Plank in for Jason Smith at
Plank Show, where you find and find me over at
Swollen Dome. We'll keep an eye on this Dodger ganzas
Yates comes in here to try to close things out
for the Dodgers and the ninth against the Twins. But
coming up next, we'll turn our attention back again to
the National Football League and the front running Lions. Yeah,
(35:25):
I know that sounds strange to hear it, even after
all these years, the front running Lions and one back
who thinks this has to be the year. We'll tell
you who it is what's all about next here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Well that's a little bit of insanity on a Monday night.
Everybody could just shake their heads, collective screams of glee, delight, confusion.
Here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, we watched a
guy his arm may or may not have fallen off.
He leaves the Ivessia leaves the game. Yeates comes in,
(36:12):
a sorry tater. Scott comes into the game, and uh,
well we get our chaos and Correa deep to the
deepest part of the ballpark but caught at the wall.
So he preserves a Dodger's victory. Will turn that around,
no doubt. A play of the night. But five to two, Uh,
(36:32):
your final in this one just absolute insanity, Scott. I'm
sorry it was the pitcher that left the game because
it was an injury. The trainer came out. He was
kind of shaking his arm and and flexing and whatever.
Not quite sure uh the extent thereof, But we've we've
(36:53):
questioned all along, right, I know you have prosburg de
Sager in terms of the the bullpen and the reliance thereof.
We watched it last year. Obviously it ends up with
the World Series, but going to that well for a
second straight long season, and with all the injuries to
the starting rotation we've seen this bullpen called on to
(37:14):
do an incredible amount of work. My apologies for miss
speaking with Vessia. I was Tanner Scott who left the game,
and now we'll await word Yeats comes in to get
the save, and the ex sale that he had on
the mound after the ball was caught to the deepest
part of the ballpark is really one of the great reactions.
(37:39):
We can't obviously show you here on Foxbourne Radio, but
let me speak to it. You had a sizeable man
on the mound that they had felt and looked like
he'd had the breaths taken out of him, you know,
going back to our earlier Harry Potter reference, like the
death eaters had come for his soul.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I've got to see it. I told you whenever things
started going poorly early on, I turned off my feed
because I was watching early show. He gave up a
home run. Then when I turned it off, the Dodgers
got a home run from show Hey to take the lead,
and I decided that might be bad luck tonight. So
I'm waiting to see this play because you already mentioned it.
(38:23):
Is it the play of the night is again not
only candidate has it already in the eyes of Mike
Harman sealed that deal.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Oh as as Frostburg would say, is water wet?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Is water wet?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
That is correct to Dodger victory. No matter what I
thought the play of the night was gonna be, I
would have gotten this play no matter what.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Five to two of the final. So there you go,
Dustin may look pretty good tonight. One hundred pitches based
on my game cast watching of this, nicely done.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
There you go came on in relief of show a
TONI gave you one hundred pitches. As the Dodgers get
the five to two victory. Show Hey started the game,
gave up leadoff home run to Buxton, a couple of strikeouts, hits,
a two run homer of his own, and a five
to two final. So we'll get to the play that
I will talk a little more about the Dodgers and
where they are as we get towards the trade deadline,
(39:14):
which is just next week as well, but we alluded
to it earlier. The Detroit Lions in that rare spot
of being the hunted, the lion at the top of
the food chain. There the Bears a lot of great
off season headlines. They re up their GM still wondering
what the hell that's all about before proof of concept
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and all of that. The packers with Jordan Love, they
keep adding pieces. Will Sheppard, former Colorado wide receiver, joins
a very crowded wide receiving cord there, and then of
course the Minnesota Vikings and the wildcard that is JJ McCarthy. Well,
David Montgomery, former Bear, said that following the back to
back failures, this is talking to you. Eric Woodyard of
(39:58):
ESPN quote, everybody's tired of being close. It's cool to
be close at first, but you can't get comfortable with
being close all the time. And he goes on saying
he's the hungerst that he's been, et cetera. But also
that it's the year of reckoning that you're talking about.
This is their next big best shot with the NFC
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and more teams starting to go in the right direction,
and certainly within the division, the cannibalization they're in, changing
of coordinators, a lot is shuffled out for Detroit, but
they come back with most of their principles. Hutchinson he'll
be back on the defensive front, but the offense with
(40:40):
all the pieces that they have, that really if they
can't win, now that wondering what becomes of the what
if Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
It's the most fascinating division in football. I think the
NFC North is with not only do you hit it
on that Johnny Morton and Calvin Sheppard are taking over
as the offensive and defensive course. We didn't know much
about Ben Johnson. We knew Aaron Glenn, but we didn't
know much about Ben Johnson when he took over as
the offensive coordinator. We know John Morton, but can he
take them back to that level? Right now? You're working
(41:11):
with Arnie on Friday Night. Arnie doesn't care about coordinators.
I think it's the most important thing in the success
of an NFL team outside of getting the quarterback right.
Speaking to quarterbacks, the Vikings are now going with essentially
a rookie. What are your Bears? What are the Packers? Consistently?
You know what, I think it's the most fascinating division,
and I'm not rubber stamping. Regardless of what David Montgomery says.
(41:33):
The Lions to win it, no question about it. We'll
get into some of the odds and some of the
chaos there, and we'll recap and look at what the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Win means and well, I mean, you'll have to hear
the final play for yourself. He's Chris Blanket for Jason Smith.
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's all about the T shirt. The T shirt is everything.
What does it mean? We'll explain in a second. Yes,
and once again going to my deep reservoir of film history,
Mike Harmon alongside Chris Blake. No Jason Smith tonight or
this week he's off on vacation. If you have any
culinary suggestions in the greater Detroit area at how about
(00:53):
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plainshow at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports Radio, because we
need to know of these things as we traverse and
get ready for another season of Lions football. David Montgomery
with some big comments we'll get to a little bit
later on in the show, because we gotta get some
NFL predictive kind of things in here. Chris Blank As
(01:14):
we roll through seventh inning stretch here in Los Angeles,
Dodgers now four to one lead over Minnesota. Go back
to that leadoff home run from Buxton. It's been all
Dodgers to run homer for Otani, followed by two solo
Will Smith shots as we go into the bottom of
the seventh.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Hmmm, feeling like you're adding a little bit more to
that lead in the west right now, let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Look at you getting all excitable, right It's still very
still got a couple more innings of bullpens to go.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
That's what I was telling Frostburg during the break, like,
did I let this get to the bullpenper go? Just
just keep it within three or four ruds, it would
be good to go.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, now it goes out to a slam as pahz
the goat in all the wrong ways over the weekend,
he hits his so home run, his eighteenth of the year.
There we go, and it's now a five to one Dodger.
Lee spoke that into existence, the one oh five and
a half mile per hour exit velocity for you.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They're playing love it. I like that, kid. I don't
know what this future looks like. I don't know if
he's holding down a spot until these young guns get
ready to jump up to the show. But I like
him even if he can't see a line and drive
to centerfield.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well that's the beauty and horror of the Dodgers, because
you're like, they have these prospects, deal them, send them away,
bring in schemes, bring in whatever power arm you need. Nope, Nope,
that's not how we do things around here. We're not
giving away the best guys. Now, the quote I threw
out there, it's all about the T shirt. Remember the
two thousand classic, almost famous of the young journalist on
(02:46):
the road with the rock band. Uh as they roll
through and it becomes a fight within the band about
the obscuring of the rest of the band members behind
the lead guitarists. Yeah, that's right. And so when we
talk about the T shirt, well, the w NBA All
Star Weekend has now been symbolically reduced down to a
(03:11):
T shirt. Pay us what you owe us. Kelsey Plumb
and others, in talking about the decision to wear set
apparel in the warm ups, said well, there was nobody
there for Team Clark, So I appreciate the pettiness to
a degree to a degree, right, And that's been the
story of the WNBA for the last couple of years.
(03:35):
Plenty of memes flowing out of it, and and some
of it is just snark, Like we talk about here
the way we traverse the world of sports talk and
have our own snarky opinions and dismissive attitudes towards certain
things that maybe not as my daughter would say when
we were first introducing different food, she'd look at you
(03:55):
and say, not my favorite. Okay, So you know, maybe
it didn't hit the road quite as frequently for Kelsey
Plumb and for others. They've taken every chance they have
to say, hey, we were here, we're stars in our
own right. It's not all about Caitlin Clark. We can
do things without her affecting it. Although when we talk
about the current state of affairs and what were they
(04:16):
talking about, well, the CBA, right, they had a big
pow wow, forty ish strong showing up to hear proposals
and have discussions about the state of the union, Chris
coming away with nothing substantive from several players seemingly dejected
by the fact that they didn't make any strides towards
(04:38):
a new labor agreement that'll expire in October. Now you
got thirteen teams and eventually expanding towards eighteen. By twenty thirty,
we saw the Valkyries come in at a big valuation,
at a big price. We look at what the salary
cap is, very widely distributed as you go through, looking
(05:00):
at one point five million dollars per team, the floor
is one point two six million thus far, and this
is why players are playing overseas. The pay us what
you owe us. We've watched revenues increase markedly. They've got
a new two billion dollar TV deal that has been
brokered amongst several purveyors that'll be part of that package
(05:23):
going forward. But as of now, the players receive nine
percent of revenue. And I see a lot of comparisons
one to one with other leagues, and immediately it becomes
a well, they've lost so much money. No, it's a
percentage of revenue, right that the other players get. When
we talk about CBAS, it's not a percentage of profit
(05:44):
that's brokered in. And obviously we talk about the WNBA
and trying to guesstimate over the last two decades, the
annual loss that has been incurred by the NBA and
other backers. But we're in a different world, right, You've
got different the apparel companies, the makeup companies, all that,
the iHeart Women's Sports channel, they've got fifteen shows in
(06:07):
a year, right, and a bunch of founding partners there.
And you talk about all these other you know, the
new shoe deals, new apparel deals. I did like that.
Caitlin Clark got snarky in her own right, saying, hey,
thanks for the Nike ad because it was a half
a swoosh behind one of the photos that Kelsey Plumb
(06:28):
had on one of the red carpet events. So that
was good. All snark for snark, little slap fighting in that.
But you're talking about a two billion dollar TV deal
that's been signed. Money is coming and you're getting in advancement.
Now what percentage over the nine percent needs to come
into play? I don't know, but certainly we're looking where
(06:49):
they're going, and not necessarily, as far as I'm aware,
do they have to make restitution for past if at all?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Right? I wonder too, because you mentioned the new franchise,
I mean, Mark Davis and the Ace is going back
a little bit too. I wonder how much of you know,
seeing the nine percent drove them to want to be
a part of this say hey, okay, this this is
a pretty good deal. And again you've made this point
(07:17):
that so many people have not because everyone wants to
be outraged. I'm not gonna lie to you. I thought
the short the shirts were kind of ill timed, just
because no one really understands the TV deal right that's
coming up for them, and everyone sees them look treating
Caitlin Clark like, oh well, this thing has been this
this famous and this big without here not necessarily, but
(07:40):
you're one of the first people that I've heard that
just points out, hey, bottom line, they got a new
TV deal that is gonna bring them in significantly more money.
And what led to us finally changing the way that
we had the pay structure in college sports, massive TV
deals that the student athletes weren't sharing, of course, limiting
their right to make money. It's a little different story,
(08:01):
not the best comparison, but Mike, I'm here to tell you,
I I find I find myself in a position where
I I don't have a problem with the WNBA. I mean,
so many people act outraged by this, Hey, let them,
Let them do what they want. Did it take away
from your All Star viewing experience?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Might have been short sighted from them if you even
watch the All Star Game. Sure, but this is the
attack that they're going with. They're trying to be more aggressive.
Let's see if it works. That's oh gosh, why did
I just forget the line from Dodgeball with a Jason
Bateman's character. The interest is old strategy. That's a bold strategy, Cotton.
We'll see how it works out. But they feel like
(08:39):
with the investment that's been made in yeah, the NBA,
the NBA hasn't. No one's made money off this league
outside of certain teams in their market. But that's again,
that's not the point in this whole thing. We all
were in some way, shape or form for a company.
This probably not turning a massive profit, but yet there's
that investment in personnel and in wanting to make sure
(08:59):
that you do keep the old, the old butter shirt
in the clock running if you will. And I think
I think they're gonna up getting a pretty nice little
chunk out of this. Might not be what they want,
might not be what they deserve.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I'm not even in that world, but I do think
that it's something that we need to quit being just
so damn negative about. I mean, they wore the shirt
I was. I was listening getting ready for I was
feeling in for Bernie, and you would have thought that
some of these some of these women had personally assaulted
people that I was listening to on the air. It's like,
oh my gosh, how dare they It's like, well, I mean,
(09:32):
they're just trying to make a point. It's labor strife.
It's what we deal with on a day and a
day on basis. I don't know how you feel about it, Mike,
but you know, I hope that they get what they
want to continue to play basketball. But my mind is
so fired up about football, and my might, Mike, just
head is so much in college football. I saw that.
I was like, huh, well, good for them, all right,
let's move on here. It's just it doesn't really register
(09:53):
with me as something that I'm losing my mind over
like many are.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, I just enjoy the business side of it and
trying to parse out between what is pettiness right the
plumb stuff at the podium of Hey we did this
without Caitlin Clark. Ahaha. And you go back and you
look at the revenue growth, which was already in place
for a couple of years before Caitlyn Clark arrived, but
gets there's no doubt it's been taken too. But that's
(10:19):
the point, is right. The last year when you start
talking about advertising rates, you talk about how many of
the network games feature the fever, which is this is
the worst case scenario, all right, Steve laid it out,
and she's missing her twelfth game tomorrow, so yes, while
she's cheerleading, and even if you got a boost in
(10:40):
ratings for some portion of the three Point Contest and
probably the All Star Game to a degree, yeah, she
was on there and she's she's got a bit of
smart ass to her. So that's always of added value,
certainly to a broadcast and going to bring folks in
the curiosity you have more people tuned in, which means
(11:00):
if you're going to make a statement and force the
subject into folks ears, they're probably not gonna click on
an article link. But why are they wearing these shirts?
What does it mean the broadcast has to address it?
Or if you go online you're gonna type in what
does this line mean? And it's gonna give you a
quick synopsis from the AI generator about the labor negotiations
(11:22):
that are going on, and you get a primer. You
either in or you're out, and if you move on, great.
It's the old Kevin Durant line that we run on
the show all the time, one of the greatest contributions.
He's a Hall of Famer and a world class guy.
He traverses in the trading card world, so we're kindred
spirits there. But the line he used many years ago
quote if you don't like it, don't watch unquote. But
(11:44):
it still affects and it's still part of our larger
sports business, and to ignore it completely, to me is
just foolhardy by some of our compatriots in this sport.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Well, what I'm just gonna say, some educate learn me.
So what is a good deal for them? What is
it in your like Nerdy in the weeds opinion of
what's going to be a fair deal for them and
a good deal for the WNBS.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, I think as you go through you try to
figure out where between that nine percent and the the
fifty that you have on the other side. You know,
you have to account for some of the losses in
the past. I think some folks would love to get
some of those initial startup funds back, But I don't
know what those contracts look like. I don't think any
(12:29):
of us do. Right, were they supposed to get paid
back once we start hitting you know, the proverbial in
the black. I don't know. But the Valkyrie's valuation was
half a billion dollars, right, So we're talking substantive monies
that are now flowing and as you add more franchises,
that means you continue you're continuing this growth. To say
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we get twenty percent or twenty five percent, even to double,
it means that your top players are now making a
half a million dollar against revenues that are now in
excess of based on that new TV deal. And that's
not including ticket sales and everything else. I mean, that's
two hundred million dollars a year, right, fuzzy math two
billion plus divided by ten. I think we can do
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that one. So you know, now you're talking about some
real substantive revenue that that's flowing in just from the
TV side of thing, say nothing of all the other
corporate sponsors that it would stand to reason that you
could you can double that and not bat and eye
based on the growth of the league. Again, what you
have to pay for in arrears, I'm not privy to that.
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I don't think any of us are, or if it's
been disseminated, I don't know it. But but all of
that to say, you know, you're in a good place
in a growing industry, which means you know, if you're
the WNBA and and the leadership and the ownership groups,
you're looking around going you know, we're still we're still
just getting into hyper growth at this point.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And then just one one final thought, and I know
we're up against it. But you said that the losses
don't matter. Why Why is that? Why would the forty
mil or the thirty mil that they've lost. Why is
that irrelevant for dummies like me in this conversation. So
I don't think I don't think it is. But I
question how much of the contracts are hey we need
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to get back are whatever that investment was right? If
it was the NBA, right, is it just something you
funded as part of a good will or was there
a business park attached in terms of repayment? Right, Hey,
I'm your angel investor. But I get ten percent of
dollar one. You know, you know what I mean, Like,
(14:39):
I don't. I don't know what those deals are, and
I don't think that's ever been laid out. We didn't
just give you all this money for the league. We
want there's money.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Something in return, you know, if it actually does turn
a profit, do we get it back? Right? I was watching,
you know, because I'm a nerd the Gilded Age HBO.
You know, one of my many subscriptions, I gotta get
my money's worth. Guy invented a claw, but to order
to put in for the patent, he needed to get
everybody to give him a buck or two. He didn't
have the dollars. So now that it's gotten paid out,
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now everybody's starting to come, well, what percentage do I get? Well,
they never disgusted it, so you can already see it coming,
these seeds of discontent. Well, I want some of that
catch that he got for his clock bat for selling
it off. Same thing here, who put in the most money,
who's got the most skin in the game? And do
they get paid paid off off the back end off
of what in arrears? Or is it just Hey, looking forward,
(15:30):
we all feast on what's to come. That's the curious thing,
and if Adam Silver would give us an answer on that,
I'd be really curious.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
There you go, because there's always a catch, there's always well.
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He'll join me on Friday, and after Arnie and I
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(18:05):
pm Pacific, one o'clock Central Times, midnight Mountain Time.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I really like whenever you use the Pacific time zone.
It makes it seem so much more bearable and doable.
What's the week like? I know Dan's in a couple
of nights, right, Dan Bayer? Yeah, we got.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Jared Smith tomorrow. So we'll get into some futures and
some of those things as you start to go into
your fantasy drafts and start looking at some over unders,
as well as the general sports World Buyer Wednesday and Thursday,
and then Arnie on Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And then Jason Backed a week from today.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
In theory, if he comes back from Detroit, we'll see.
If not, maybe all of stage to Coo by head.
It'll just full on be the Mike Harmon Show. We'll
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he has really amped up his sports trivia knowledge.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Stepping up in the world there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And then he got Frostburg who's just over the moon
with the wonderful world of Charger Football, and the Dodgers
are winning tonight. Yeah makes all Well, it's our home
run fest. I mean every run in this game has
been scored via the home run from Buxton's home run,
then Otani couple for Will Smith, and then Andy Potts.
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So yeah, we get a lot of love going on
here as we watch deep into the night here on
a Monday. But we talked to earlier Jerry Jones and
labor issues. See it's labor in unions is what we're
talking about a lot here on the show. Between the
w NBA conversation from earlier in the hour and we
talked with the about the Jerry Jones situation, Micah Parsons,
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and now we go over to the curious case that
is the Cincinnati Bengals, where we know frugality has long
been associated with this franchise, as much as we love
the uniforms, going back to the days of Ken Anderson,
Boomer Assias, and Ikey Woods, all the way through to
our chad Ocho Cinco's TJ Huschmanzato our teammate here on
(20:04):
Fox Sports Radio, and so on. Joe Burrow and company
now dealing with it. Joe Burrow in the news for
some other things. You know, the theft ring has now
had at least one person caught. He said it was
going to keep him from getting that batmobile. So I
need this rectified and remedied as fast as I can.
But we've got personnel issues as well, because Shamar Stewart,
(20:26):
first round draft pick, has yet to sign his deal,
and there's been a continued fight over language in this contract.
Walter Nolan signed his four year deal picked sixteen with
the Cardinals going back on June tenth. Gray Zabel signed
his on May twelfth. Meanwhile, Shamar Stewart still in the
offing as well as Trey hendrickson pass rusher, where we've
(20:48):
seen TJ. Watt and others get their deals. But Duke
Tobin had his statement at the media lunch and saying hey,
we need to get him in here. His Stewart's agent
fire back saying, well, Duke Tobin's had no involvement in
any of the talks that we've had. And then Mike
Brown said, hey, Jerry Jones, you had your take on
(21:09):
labor impass and guaranteed moneys, here's mine.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Does this one feel unique? This one is surprising. I
hesitate to get into the detail, but basically it turns
on whether out years are guaranteed if he gets involved
in conduct detrimental to football?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well, what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Detrimental to football? In recent years has been violence to women.
That's about the one that comes to mine. There are
others probably, but that's the one that I think, Well,
if we get a player who gets involved in something
like that or does something that is just unacceptable, guess
(21:59):
what I want to pay him. I really don't. If
he's sitting in jail, I don't think I ought to
be paying him. And so we say that if he
got involved in conduct detrimental, we'd have the right to
terminate the guaranteed part.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So there there it is, he he said, he went,
he went and enumerated right. Jerry Jones went the he
could get hit by a bus and not be available
to us, and Mike Brown went, uh, full into circumstances,
Uh whereby you know we we he said, the what
would be the quiet part? I guess out loud in
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terms of those negotiations of what would make him unavailable?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Uh to the he only mentioned one crime.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I mean well, I mean he went to he went
to the one that has been most prevalent I guess
the last couple of years. So he did that. So
you've got that, and now it's just the the question of,
you know, whether you take offense to that or just
take it down to brass tacks. As he's trying to
talk about guarantees and avoiding out years, whether it's just
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the year in which the offense occurred, which I guess
is part of the argument being had with the agent
versus being able to avoid out the contract for future years.
And as the NFL goes through its labor issues, we've
had peace, certainly, but with the union issues swirling in
the background. Do we necessarily know that that continues? Mike
(23:31):
Brown certainly know. How should we say spring chicken in
all of this? When you talk about he and Jerry Jones,
they've been around this game and have run their squads.
We know about I said, frugality, being kind cheap is
something that's been brought up often. And now he fights
back saying, well, we paid our wide receivers, we paid
(23:54):
Joe Burrow, leave me alone. That doesn't apply to us anymore.
But it's that converse which is uncomfortable. There's no question
about it in terms of what would keep a player
off the field, and he enumerated. Instead of just saying,
you know, things that would preclude their involvement and leaving
it as a nebulus, he decided to go into specificity
(24:15):
about those. And I guess if you want to take offense,
there's plenty on the bone there.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Sure, I guess My question And what I haven't been
able to find out is this a Cincinnati Bengals specific
thing or does every team have this? And everyone but
Shamar Stewart is good with it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
As best I've been able to ascertain, it's it's fairly
standard biler plate language, and now it becomes the wealth
the specificity of trying to pull it out right, right,
I guess and say, well, we're going to avoid this
versus going case to case and you know, the larger
league process, because we've got plenty of cases that are
(24:56):
still you know, out in trying to figure out how
they're going to be judicated by Goodell and Company going
to Rashi Rice, amongst others, for other infractions not enumerated
by Mike Brown.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I guess that's my whole confusion. We had a we
had something very similar to this a couple of years ago.
But if you want to fight over anything, I guess
this clause is one that I'm like, okay, just stay
out of trouble, right, you don't have to worry about it.
If it's injuries, and I get it right, I get
going to the mattresses over it and saying, hey, I
can't help if I get injured or not, because I'm
(25:29):
gonna be going all out for your team. Mike Harmen,
It's just if this is if this is not just
a specific thing that the Bengals are sliding it, and
this is a league white thing, it seems odd to
fight it because I think of all the crazy things
from that Caleb Williams story. We had a couple weeks
about a couple months ago at the very fight the
slotting system. If you want, I mean fight how Oh well,
(25:51):
there's not really a negotiation anymore. Here's what you're gonna
make this fight seems odd to me. By the way,
did you catch the side of this we're college where
Texas A and him fans started trying to make it
seem like Stuart was going to come.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Back to A and M No, that was certainly a
nice little side. Can't do that not happening, But yeah,
I was. Now, we've eradicated a lot of rules. I
know that one has not been not been torn asunder
to where that opportunity would be open. But yeah, we're
talking about I've seen baseball contracts in the past. I
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remember one year I was helping to teach a Baseball
and American history as an extended extension course for night
school at Northwestern when I was there working in there,
I was an administrator of financial aid and Addisons for
a couple of years before I got into this whole
loudmouth media thing. But we went we took a tour
of Wrigley Field, and we sat down with some of
(26:45):
the front office folks. You had some of the broadcasters
pop by Harry Carey being propped up by a couple
of attractive younger women because he wouldn't reuse a cane
and he wouldn't use a walker, so he used to
twenty something women to get from the limousine to the
elevator to get up into the But either way, they
handed us a contract. They're like, oh, here's several pages
(27:06):
of things they can't do, and it's all enumerated, right,
but there's always, you know, stuff you don't think of
that would fall under the guys. But we got about
two pages into the contract and anybody want to guess
who this is? I'm like, oh, I know, And I
said the name, and the guy looked at me.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Goes, why do you know that?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Like, well, this clause and this clause right here are
pretty specific to what this player has been known to
do in his off seasons. So coming to the Cubs,
they made it clearer to enumerate that those activities were
to cease if he wanted to collect their paychecks, lest
he put himself in harm. But we certainly have that
(27:44):
with NFL deals as well, where but you can only
enumerate so many things, so you want to have more
boilerplate language. But as a team, you want to protect
yourself as well. Right if things are going to be avoided,
do you want Okay, it's only avoided for this year,
but you still have to pay out years Hence where
maybe that player wasn't available year one and then comes
back year two and can't perform anywhere near that level.
(28:08):
Should you be on the hook for that guaranteed money?
You might think the wave Brown phrased it, and maybe
you can take if you want to go down the
road in terms of race as I know some have done,
and you can do it. But I don't think if
you're running a business, saying hey, I don't want to
pay out money if the guy's unable to perform for
(28:30):
the team is unreasonable as much as again the specificity
of his language here might be problematic to you.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, and oh, by the way, you know this is
a guy in schmar Stewart that you bring in that
you think is gonna help ease maybe if you can't
keep Trey Hendrickson. Now he's not there and you still
got Trey Hendrickson. That's gonna be hold out whenever Camp
gets rolling for the Bengals. So kind of an out
and out disaster on that front. But I get it.
I understand on both sides why they're doing what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I gotta say this, though, Chris, is that you know,
going back to mock drafts, for whatever those are worth.
I did have Stuart going seventeenth to the Bengals, so
I got that one right. So he eventually needs to
show up to prove me right. Otherwise I don't get
credit for the square. He'll go back in the draft
and then you'll probably project where he's going to go
next year. Look at you, I got I got eight right.
I usually get between eight and ten right.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
He bad so bad.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'll take it from my throwing darts at a board
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let's take a turn over to the news desk and
get an update on this Dodger game and everything going
on in our sporting universe with our guys. Steve Disager.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
Yeah, La up in the nine to five to one
over the Twins, you were talking about that Bengals story,
and yes, apparently in other contracts with other teams this
language to possibly void future guarantees existed. The thing is,
and this was Mike Florio's point, Pro Football took. The
Bengals themselves are trying to enforce it brand new for
the first time on someone and this first round or
(30:43):
doesn't want to be the guinea pig for that, thank you.
And the fact is they had just recently two big
contracts signed by wide receivers Chase and Higgins, and use
the old language in those and now we're trying to
use the new language for possible future voice on this
guy who yes Sjamar Stewart is still unsigned. Green Bay
(31:04):
gave tackle Zach tom a four year extension. Cowboys pass
rusher Micah Parsons reported to training camp. He wants an
extension workout start Tuesday. By the way, most NFL teams
will have their veterans report to training camp by Tuesday.
Titans quarterback Will Levis will have shoulder surgery next week.
He's out for the year. Tennessee just drafted quarterback cam Ward.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Number one overall.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
One out top of the ninth inning at Dodger Stadium. Shortly,
perhaps everything will be final in the Majors. Dodgers are
up five to one on Minnesota. They're asking Tanner Scott
to get the last four outs in this Gunner he
did get an out on a line drive to end
the eighth. Right now it's first and second one out
against the Twins in the ninth show, Hey Otani pitched
(31:48):
three innings, and then Dustin May threw one hundred pitches
in relief. Tonight, four and two thirds scoreless will Smith
with two solo homers. Otani did allow a leoff homer
to the Twins their only tally tonight, but then Otani
hit a two run homer in the bottom of the first,
his thirty fifth of the year. Aohenne O Suarez and
(32:08):
Arizona hit his thirty sixth of the season, but Houston
beat Arizona six to three. The lost to Zach Gallon
another poor start six plus innings, six runs allowed. The
Milwaukee Brewers have the best record in Major League Baseball
sixty and forty. Now that the Tigers have gone in
the tank the last week or two, Milwaukee has won
eleven in a row. They got a six to nothing
(32:30):
win at Seattle tonight. Brandon Woodriff, back from injury, got
the win, going six innings, so the Brewers lead the
Cubs by one game in the NL Central Cubs lost
at home twelve to four to Kansas City. The record
for the Brewers franchise as far as longest winning streak
goes back to nineteen eighty seven, when they started a
season thirteen to zero. The last time the Brewers had
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the best record in Major League Baseball this late in
a season was nineteen eighty two, again sixty and forty
eleven straight wins. Toronto leads the AL East by four
games over the Yankees, and Boston is six back. Toronto
beat the Yanks head to head, four to one, and
Boston was beaten on a tenth inning catcher's interference. Philadelphia
(33:13):
three to two over the Red Sox to the Phillies
first in the NL East, still a half game over
the Mets, who came back to beat the Angels seven
to five. Pittsburgh and Paul Skens beat Detroit and Jack
Flaherty three nothing. The Tigers had lost six straight until
Sunday Nights win. They got shut out on the road
tonight victories for Washington and San Diego victories for Cleveland
(33:33):
and Atlanta, which beat San Francisco nine to five. The
Giants have lost six in a row. Caitlin Clark will
miss another game on Tuesday with a groin injury. WNBA
resumes with five games Tuesday night. Veteran NBA guard Chris
Paul signed with the Clippers, who also added Bradley Beal
and Brook Lopez. This offseason, Paul, now forty years old,
was as a clipper All NBA five times Former BYU
(33:57):
quarterback Jake Rahetz Laugh is transferring to Tulane. Reminder, the
women Soccer Euros have the semi finals starting Tuesday on
Fox TV England against Italy and then on Wednesday it'll
be Germany against defending World Cup champion Spain. Pitching change
at Dodger Stadium. Kirby Yates brought in in the ninth
five to one LA lead on the Twins.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Back to you a couple of notes. First off, the
Women's Euro if you haven't watched it, some of the
best most entertaining soccer I've seen in my life.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
In Spain is largely dominant. Yeah, they've been ridiculous there
and somehow England is still in this tournament.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well, that matchup against Sweden the other day and it
goes they come back from down.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
To eightieth minute and then missed three penalty kicks in
a row at the end in the shootout and still.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Advance and still advance. And then for the Brewers and
you'll love this blank they have not lost since they
acquired Andrew Vaughan from the White.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Sit Sucks, who was a very high draft choice as
I recall, and batting won something for the White size.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, he's got a higher war in ten games for
them than he did for the Socks for years.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
War.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
There you go, Thanks Steve. That's Steve Disager at the
news desk. That's Chris Plank in for Jason Smith at
Plank Show, where you find and find me over at
Swollen Dome. We'll keep an eye on this Dodger ganzas
Yates comes in here to try to close things out
for the Dodgers and the ninth against the Twins. But
coming up next, we'll turn our attention back again to
the National Football League and the front running Lions. Yeah,
(35:25):
I know that sounds strange to hear it, even after
all these years, the front running Lions and one back
who thinks this has to be the year. We'll tell
you who it is what's all about next here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Well that's a little bit of insanity on a Monday night.
Everybody could just shake their heads, collective screams of glee, delight, confusion.
Here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, we watched a
guy his arm may or may not have fallen off.
He leaves the Ivessia leaves the game. Yeates comes in,
(36:12):
a sorry tater. Scott comes into the game, and uh,
well we get our chaos and Correa deep to the
deepest part of the ballpark but caught at the wall.
So he preserves a Dodger's victory. Will turn that around,
no doubt. A play of the night. But five to two, Uh,
(36:32):
your final in this one just absolute insanity, Scott. I'm
sorry it was the pitcher that left the game because
it was an injury. The trainer came out. He was
kind of shaking his arm and and flexing and whatever.
Not quite sure uh the extent thereof, But we've we've
(36:53):
questioned all along, right, I know you have prosburg de
Sager in terms of the the bullpen and the reliance thereof.
We watched it last year. Obviously it ends up with
the World Series, but going to that well for a
second straight long season, and with all the injuries to
the starting rotation we've seen this bullpen called on to
(37:14):
do an incredible amount of work. My apologies for miss
speaking with Vessia. I was Tanner Scott who left the game,
and now we'll await word Yeats comes in to get
the save, and the ex sale that he had on
the mound after the ball was caught to the deepest
part of the ballpark is really one of the great reactions.
(37:39):
We can't obviously show you here on Foxbourne Radio, but
let me speak to it. You had a sizeable man
on the mound that they had felt and looked like
he'd had the breaths taken out of him, you know,
going back to our earlier Harry Potter reference, like the
death eaters had come for his soul.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I've got to see it. I told you whenever things
started going poorly early on, I turned off my feed
because I was watching early show. He gave up a
home run. Then when I turned it off, the Dodgers
got a home run from show Hey to take the lead,
and I decided that might be bad luck tonight. So
I'm waiting to see this play because you already mentioned it.
(38:23):
Is it the play of the night is again not
only candidate has it already in the eyes of Mike
Harman sealed that deal.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Oh as as Frostburg would say, is water wet?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Is water wet?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
That is correct to Dodger victory. No matter what I
thought the play of the night was gonna be, I
would have gotten this play no matter what.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Five to two of the final. So there you go,
Dustin may look pretty good tonight. One hundred pitches based
on my game cast watching of this, nicely done.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
There you go came on in relief of show a
TONI gave you one hundred pitches. As the Dodgers get
the five to two victory. Show Hey started the game,
gave up leadoff home run to Buxton, a couple of strikeouts, hits,
a two run homer of his own, and a five
to two final. So we'll get to the play that
I will talk a little more about the Dodgers and
where they are as we get towards the trade deadline,
(39:14):
which is just next week as well, but we alluded
to it earlier. The Detroit Lions in that rare spot
of being the hunted, the lion at the top of
the food chain. There the Bears a lot of great
off season headlines. They re up their GM still wondering
what the hell that's all about before proof of concept
(39:35):
and all of that. The packers with Jordan Love, they
keep adding pieces. Will Sheppard, former Colorado wide receiver, joins
a very crowded wide receiving cord there, and then of
course the Minnesota Vikings and the wildcard that is JJ McCarthy. Well,
David Montgomery, former Bear, said that following the back to
back failures, this is talking to you. Eric Woodyard of
(39:58):
ESPN quote, everybody's tired of being close. It's cool to
be close at first, but you can't get comfortable with
being close all the time. And he goes on saying
he's the hungerst that he's been, et cetera. But also
that it's the year of reckoning that you're talking about.
This is their next big best shot with the NFC
(40:19):
and more teams starting to go in the right direction,
and certainly within the division, the cannibalization they're in, changing
of coordinators, a lot is shuffled out for Detroit, but
they come back with most of their principles. Hutchinson he'll
be back on the defensive front, but the offense with
(40:40):
all the pieces that they have, that really if they
can't win, now that wondering what becomes of the what
if Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
It's the most fascinating division in football. I think the
NFC North is with not only do you hit it
on that Johnny Morton and Calvin Sheppard are taking over
as the offensive and defensive course. We didn't know much
about Ben Johnson. We knew Aaron Glenn, but we didn't
know much about Ben Johnson when he took over as
the offensive coordinator. We know John Morton, but can he
take them back to that level? Right now? You're working
(41:11):
with Arnie on Friday Night. Arnie doesn't care about coordinators.
I think it's the most important thing in the success
of an NFL team outside of getting the quarterback right.
Speaking to quarterbacks, the Vikings are now going with essentially
a rookie. What are your Bears? What are the Packers? Consistently?
You know what, I think it's the most fascinating division,
and I'm not rubber stamping. Regardless of what David Montgomery says.
(41:33):
The Lions to win it, no question about it. We'll
get into some of the odds and some of the
chaos there, and we'll recap and look at what the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Win means and well, I mean, you'll have to hear
the final play for yourself. He's Chris Blanket for Jason Smith.
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