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Jason and Mike react to Draymond Green’s postgame statement: “The agenda to continue to keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy. I’m sick of it. It’s ridiculous.”

Jason Smith: "No one is questioning how successful he is and we can see replays on how you play and act...but do not go out there and say there is an agenda against you, there is stuff that happens that he does and he does it out of control...he is the only one making it about race."

Mike Harmon: "If he is responding to someone in particular than call them out...but to throw out a blanket statement and use the race part of it, it had nothing to do with race, it is more fact, he is in a lot of fights."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Greetings, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon, Live from the Tirach
dot com studios. The NBA night is over mercifully. We
saw a game that was out of control very early
and never got in control. The t Wolves go on

(00:52):
to even the series with the Warriors one seventeen to
ninety three. They got out to a big lead early
and they never looked back. And look for a while,
it was Julius Randall and Jonathan Kaminga were the leading
scorers in this game. And it was my goodness, and
then it ended up with Julius Randall and Jonathan Kaminga
being the leading scores in this game. Uh yeah, we

(01:14):
could have seen like Nick's off day news, it might
have been a better show on TNT. But the t
Wolves win this game, and they even up the series
at one game apiece, And we're gonna hear Steve Kerr
on Draymond Green coming up in a minute, which is awesome.
But I want to tell you this first, right, well,
I'll hit you with it with a big Bowl prediction
out of here. Every game Steph Curry doesn't play the
rest of this series, Minnesota should win by double digits.

(01:37):
There should be no game even back in Golden State,
even if Scott Foster is cloned and they're all doing
the games together, and and and Chris Paul suddenly gets
signed by the Timberwolves. Like, even if that happens, it
should still be a double digit win for the t
Wolves in every single game. In fact, as long as
Steph Curry doesn't play, the t Wolves win every game.

(01:59):
If Curry's out through Game four, game five, this isn't
happening for the For the Warriors, it was a great
effort in Game one. I gave them their flowers after
Game one they lost Steph Curry. They had a big
lead and they were still able to hold onto it.
Buddy Heel turned into Superman, and look what happened. The
t Wolves couldn't get their their their their footing, and
they wound up losing by more points. And when Steph

(02:21):
left the game, which really defied logic. And after the
game there was a lot of concern is there is
there any at odds between Chris Finch and Edwards because
Finch said I needed Edwards to step up and be
a leader and Edwards said, nah, I was fine. I
played great defensively. All of a sudden things were a mess.
But with a day off, with a way to recalibrate,

(02:42):
the t Wolves come out and win exactly how I
thought they would win, what they should have done in
game one. It wasn't close. The Warriors don't have the
firepower tonight. Buddy healed a much more pedestrian, a much
more Buddy healed, like fifteen points he had those last
two games.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
That was great.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
The Buddy healed games game Buddy seven. In Game one,
Buddy Healed was so good. But this is how I
expect things to go, no matter how the officiating goes
a better what happens in game three, Every game Steph
Curry misses, the Tea Wolves should win. They should be
in the Western Conference Finals with absolutely zero difficulty.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Game three, the Timberwolves are five point road favorites, So
we'll put a pin in that for a second. The
over under.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
On your guy, little Buddy's points for today right at
fifteen plus or minus the half, depending on which way
you got on it. So you got that going for you.
We did have the anxious moment Anthony Edwards, because you know,
there's been a lot of talk of how except for
Steph Curry, it's been a great path and everybody's getting

(03:46):
their stuff done. It's like, well, hold my beer, and
we had the anxious moment. He goes back, not putting
a lot of weight on his leg and eventually comes back,
finishes with twenty points. But you get great work from
Alexander Walker off the bench. He finishes with twenty. Luca
Garza got into the game. It was so lappable. At
the end, the IOWA favorite.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Lucas, the game was out of control.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Show wow, look what you did.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Then I'm out of Lucas now gets had to take.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
That big swing at him while you're at it, though,
But yeah, I mean you didn't have that other player
step up to give you any kind of offensive juice.
To give the Haymakers back to Minnesota, and that game
got out of sorts in short order.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Right, we're looking at fifty.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Six thirty nine at the break, and that was only
on the winging a prayer of a couple of big shots,
you know, towards the end of shot clocks to make
it so So for the Timberwolves, you know, a game
they were able to maybe take a little bit off
in the second half, which which is key as well. Right,

(04:54):
get guys out of arm's way, something Steve Kerr talked
about as well as his comments on Draymond's all of
that one one we go back to the bay and
see what we can come up with.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
So, you know, when I was young growing up in
New York and Mike Tyson first burst onto the scene
right in the mid to late eighties, and all his
fights would last like thirty forty five seconds because he
would just crush everybody, and it was a fun thing.
On the local news. They would say, hey, you know,
and you get like three minutes to do sports, right,
you get like three minutes to do It's like okay, hey,
And luckily, because of the way it was, we can

(05:26):
bring you highlight. We can bring you the entirety of
Mike Tyson's fight last night, right, and they would play
twenty eight seconds and it was over right because at
eighteen seconds he knocks the guy out and he wins,
and that was kind of fun in that vein. We
can bring you the entirety of Draymond Green's post game
tonight following loss uh, Draymond was taken out of the

(05:47):
game by Steve Kerr because Steve Kerr didn't want to
see him get any more technicals.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
We'll hear from Steve Kerr in a minute on this.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
He had a great sound by post game, so he's
taken out because you know, hey, we're getting close to
potential suspension.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
For Draymond Green.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
But Draymond was asked, hey, how do you feel about
all these technicals and all these flagrants and everything going
on getting called against you? And here is Draymond Green's statement,
you look.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Like the angry black man. I'm not an angry black man.
I'm a very successful, educated black man with a great family,
and I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I
do to the a gender. To try to keep making
me look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm
sick of it is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Woof wow, Wow that is absolutely loaded like that is loaded.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, his the fall that ended up becoming the flagrant
and they're you know, getting him the drawing the ire
to where he was chasing the referee around was play
where he tried to sell that he'd been fouled. The
problem is in his follow through. He gets up around
the head and neck area of the defender, so you

(06:54):
immediately have other teammates stepping in and then you have
two minutes of him berating and all sorts of word
combinations we can't possibly try to emulate here on Fox
Sports Radio for fear of FCC licensure and our jobs.
But suffice to say, he did not say fertilizer. He

(07:15):
was saying other things along the way and screaming and
would start heading back towards the bench and then would
go back at the official. So it's not anything having
from where I said, anything having to do with race
other than Draymond Green doesn't like officials and he's giving it,
getting his two cents.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
All right, let's hear it one more time and then
we'll break it down again. This is Draymond Green, the
entirety of his post game from earlier, from just a
few moments ago, play one more.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
Time looked like the angry black man. I'm not an
angry black man.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm a very.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Successful, educated black man with a great family, and I'm
great at basketball.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm great at what I do to the gender.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
To try to keep making me look like an angry
black man is crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'm sick of it.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh no, okay, what's ridiculous, Draymond? Is you saying this?
No one is questioning how great you are at basketball.
No one's questioning you know, how you are, how successful
you are. No one's questioning how great your family is.
That's not you know, the games are broadcast and we
can see replays of what you do and how you
hit people and plays you make that have been on

(08:18):
the borderline for the better part of your entire career.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's how you make your money. I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
But don't sit here and tell don't sit here and
tell me that, Oh, there's some kind of agenda out there.
An agenda would be, Hey, we're gonna preemptively whistle you
for stuff. No, there's stuff that happens that you do
during a game because you get out of control.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
You do get it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'm sorry, but you get out of control. It's how
it goes. Does your reputation precede you? Yeah, but that's
for any player. It happens, right. No one's questioning anything
about that. But I see Draymond Green. There's a guy
that's responsible for plays that are on the line, maybe
over it, of the vast majority of the time. So
to sit here and all of a sudden say, I
get he's frustrated, he feels like he's being picked on.

(09:00):
I'm sorry, don't play that way anymore. But then you
lose your effectiveness because playing the way you do is
what's giving you the edge. Don't curse at the refs,
don't get in the ref's face when they want to
talk to you about different things. And I'm pretty sure
it's referees of all different races who he talks to
when he gets mad at So for this, I get
that he's mad. I get he's upset. I get he's frustrated.
I understand this, But wow, man, you want to take

(09:22):
this into a different direction that nobody is talking about.
No one is saying anything other than Draymond Green. Here's
suspensions here's this. I mean, I'll go back to Steve
Kerr saying Draymond's got to keep control of himself. I mean,
I don't think anybody's making anything up about Draymond Green
in this situation. But he wants to take this and
he's upset, and I get it. And we've seen the

(09:43):
strategy in this country the last few years, because hey,
no matter what something goes on, if I just come
out against it, I will have people having my back
on social media and it becomes a hole he said.
He said type situation. So I get it, and I
get that he's mad, but dude, come on, man, no
one is going to this at this level and make
it or make it a racial thing for you.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Come on, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
There's other players that get complained about all the time.
Let's go back Grace and Allen came into the league
and he was the dirtiest player in the history of
the game. Right Look at the guy was tripping everybody
in college getting to the NBA trip. So you know, yeah,
I get that you're mad, but go somewhere different than this.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I mean, come on, yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
And if you're responding to someone in particular, then then
you got to call out the name, you got to.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Call out the venue. You gotta go.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
If it's just you know, the equivalent of the Jason
Smith one to what I forgot, whatever the number was
that JJ Reddick did, then then you know, cite that
or don't.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
But to just throw out.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
A blanket thing that that infuses the race part of
it it And look, I don't live a life where
where folks are casting that on me, and I haven't
felt that. Maybe Draymond certainly does. He's taken that out here.
But how many incidents have we seen on the court?
How many technical files, how many suspensions, near brawls, near fights?

(11:03):
And Steve Kerr, you know, has spoken on it many
many times, and certainly we'll hear from him in a moment.
But it's you play on the edge and it's part
of the greatness and sometimes you go over it. And
in this case, they decided that it was too egregious
and then the I don't know, put a stopwatch on it.

(11:24):
How long does he stalk the officials screaming before they
finally get him to the sideline.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
We were on air and we're starting to talk about it.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Steph Curry had to come off the bench, limp and
grab him and pull him back towards the sideline, pull
him away from the officials, pull him away from the opponent,
pull him back past all the coaches, towards the back
end of the bench. They basically went to the giant
camera that's at as high a point as they possibly

(11:51):
could to show, hey, Draymond's getting put all the way
back over here because he's been too loud and might
get himself thrown out. Get that extra technical, get one
more towards suspension. It was a well thought out discussion
point of where he's at on the continuum, and it
had nothing to do with raise, Like, here's just fact
he's playing.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
He's playing against other black players, So I don't say
that he's he's playing against other black players.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
So wait, so it's racist that that's going on. It's
a race thing for you and you're playing. He's the
one making it racial. He's the only one making it racial.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, it's it's exasperating because we we do have so
many issues as a society, as a as a country,
as a global populouce.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
We don't need to invent more.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Nothing is invented, nothing, Nothing is again, we are a
read and react.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Business in sports talk and sports talk radio.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Right, Hey, lots of ideas, we have the things, Hey
we're gonna do this, and we're gonna but we are
in a read and react business and the games happen
and we react to them. Nothing is made up. There's
no something Hey, that never happened in the game last night.
No ay, I put in that you went and grabbed
a guy around the neck and knocked him to the ground. No,
that doesn't happen. We read and reacts. It's the playoffs.
The highlights are everywhere. Everybody gets to see it. All

(13:09):
the games are on television. I'm sorry, it's how it goes.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah, I think when we get down to it.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
We have in the NBA and they've made up a
lot of awards, but at this point they don't have
what is it. It's the Lady Bing right, the Sportsmanship
Award in hockey.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
We don't have one of those for the NBA.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
And I gotta imagine Draymond ain't winning that one.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I don't know how you have the career that he
has and do what he does and say yeah, yeah,
that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's what it is. I'm the victim. No, no, yeah,
not really.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
In law and order, this would be called dissociation.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Not really, not really exit. How about a Fresca exit?
Swollen dome craziness from Draymond Green. Will continue this discussion.
We'll hear what you have to say again. Boy, you
talk about someone who is just putting a big bulletin
board material out there for the next couple of days.
That's Draymond Green.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
But is he doing it with a specific reason in mind?

Speaker 7 (14:09):
We will.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Attack this from a different angle coming up next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon and Boy, Draymond
Green is giving us some content con Yeah whoo. Warriors
get beaten pretty bad by the Tea Wolves tonight. That
series now even at one game, apiece one, seventeen ninety three.
Draymond Green not happy after the game for how he's

(14:52):
being treated by officials. We're gonna hear from Steve Kerk first,
and we're gonna hear Draymond again. Uh, Steve Kerr said
he had to take Draymond out of the game tonight
because he didn't want me to get another technical. Because
the combination of technical flagrant fouls, he's getting close to
a suspension. Here's Steve Kerr talking about that just a
few moments ago. And trust me, you gonna him to

(15:14):
wait and hear what Draymond Green had to say. But
first here Steve Kerr.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
Yeah, I could see, you know, he had gotten pretty
upset and I just didn't.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Want him to, you know, get another technical, So I
took him out at that point. And I know he's
gonna have to be careful now he's, uh, see two techs.

Speaker 8 (15:33):
Away, five texts and two flagrants and.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
So two texts, he'll be suspended for two more flagrants
right now.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
So he's, uh, he's gonna have to stay composed.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Obviously we need him all right. So there's Steve Kerr.
Got to stay composed all of this.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
You know, he channeled Will Ferrell.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta composure. We gotta go.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I like how the reporter kept telling, yeah, the comedy
or if he gets two of these, or if he
gets to it and see'st I know, I know you
me championship rings. I haven't to show you all my rings. Okay,
here's what I want.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Doesn't mean you might not know the minutia of the
technical foul rule.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm gonna think if you've had Draymond Green on your team,
you know the minutia of the technical foul rule.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know that, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't think that's something that escapes you. I think
that's maybe something that year one day four he said, Hey,
do me a favor, look up and tell me just
how many fouls and combinations when a guy gets suspended
just a little bit, just so I have that in
the back.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I got to feel him.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I have to know that for a while. So obviously, yes,
tonight we know the night for Draymond Green. He has
talked a lot in the last few days about his
emotions and and he apologized to the team when he
went nuts in Game six against the Rockets. But now
here he is tonight, post game following the loss, in
which again things got close near Steve Curse that I
got to take him out of the game because of
you know what's going on with Raymond. And here's Draymond

(16:54):
not happy with how he's being treated by the officials.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
Look like the angry black man. I'm not an angry
black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man with
a great family, and I'm great at basketball. I'm great
at what I do. The agenda to try to keep
making me look.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Like an angry black man is crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I'm sick of it.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
And then he walked out. That was the entire press
conference for Draymond Green. Now we talked about this a
few minutes ago. There's no agenda. We're a read and
react business in sports talk radio and television. What happens
on the screen, we react to it. The games are broadcast,
so it's not like Draymond can say, well, that didn't
really happen, and I didn't really grab the guy around
the neck and try to grab and try.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Now we can kind of see what goes on.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
No one's questioning his family, no one's questioning his talent
as a basketball player, no one's questioning his success. I'm
pretty sure Draymond Green all three of those things pretty good.
I've never heard one person talk about Draymond's family or
his talent level, never heard that or his success on
the basketball court. I don't think that's never been a topic.

(17:56):
The first topic for Draymond Green I remember was Steph
Curry might be the MVP of the NBA, but Draymond
Green is the MVP of the Warriors. He's making stuff up.
There's no agenda for him trying to make me look
like an angry black man. I get it. I get
that he's upset. But you can't look at Draymond Green's
career and say, well, yeah, there's a lot of question

(18:16):
there's a lot of things I don't know that he was. No,
Draymond Green is pretty much right at the liner over it.
And it's what makes him a great player, because he's
a guy that, yes, you take the good in the bed,
you take the good that he brings, the edge that
he brings to a game, but you also have to
understand that he has trouble controlling his emotions and he
gets out of control and he has now is just
the end of the game, and he got upset about things.

(18:38):
But none of this is true. None of this is true.
But let me throw this out there, because Draymond Green's
a smart dude, right, Draymond Green's a smart guy. Here
are the Warriors percentage chance that this is true Mike
Carmon okay, or that this is the reason for this,
because obviously what he said, you can't really say that
any of that is true. The Warriors now looking at

(19:02):
a bad loss going home, no Steph Curry for at
least the next couple of games, and all the confidence
they had in Game one is now out the window.
So here's Draymond Green knowing, I blow up at the media.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I have this thing.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
This becomes the story for the next couple of days.
And what does that take the attention off the rest
of my team, who's got to figure stuff out? And
we gotta win a couple of games here until Steph
Curry gets back. We want to win both games at home.
We'll take one out of two and maybe he's back
for Game five. If not, it's game six back here,
then we'll get him for Game seven on the road.

(19:40):
Percentage chance that Draymond Green is doing this knowing full
well it's gonna be a thing. We're talking about it
now in the radio. It's gonna be all over TV
and the radio tomorrow, and everyone's gonna be talking to
this for the next couple of days. Draymond's full of this.
Draymond's done this, Draymond's done this, and Draymond did this specifically. Okay,
because I know I got big shoulders, I can handle this.

(20:02):
You know my younger teammates who now there's in the
second round of the playoffs, we have expectations a little
more difficult for us now. But no, Steph, I can
take some of the pressure off by having this be
a story for a couple of days, and the rest
of my team we can prepare for Game three, in
Game four and with with relative obscurity, people aren't gonna
ask me quest talk to them that this was Draymond

(20:24):
knowing full well what the result is going to be,
that he did this to take the pressure off his teammates.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, but now you have the pressure of your teammates
having to address it, not just because hey, you went
off on officiating and Tony Brothers, but you made it
a race thing, and so you're not telling you you're
gonna tell me that when when they're traveling and you're
gonna get.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
In front of reporters.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Every player isn't getting a bunch of questions about this,
like it's one thing to.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Wouldn't you rather field? Hey? You know game two they
were back to normal and Edwards had to scare.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
But they teach you and I love you know. Look,
Draymond Green's a guy that we've talked about a lot.
Cerebral plays head games on the court. Uh, there's no
question about it, right there. There's he's playing chess a
lot of times. But you know, there are the moments
where like tonight, let's go back to end game for
a minute.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
That that's not chess.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's a guy losing control, right He gets a pope
check from nas Reed and gets the reach and fall,
but does the follow through and gets.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Up around the head and neck. There's there's no.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
There's no way you can look at that any other
way than of course it's dangerous and so but but
I but I appre I appreciate that you're you're looking
to give him credit for this one. I do win
because they and there is a small percentage chance, right,
there is a small percent of it to me that
that that rings true to that going Well, you know,
Draymond's a guy, he's he's certainly played the psychological game

(21:51):
game before. But the problem is it's not just him
that has to address this, and he made it uncomfortable
with the angry black man.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
No, he did, But that's what's going to get a
lot of attention. Right. But here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Would you rather if you are the war and we'll
hear from Jimmy Butler, who was actually asked about this,
would you rather if you're the Warriors, get a question
about Draymond Green being targeted and yes, Hey, now I
get fired up because I get to defend my teammate.
Or I could just blow it off and say, hey,
you know, we're focused on the game. You're not getting
questions about the game. You're not getting questions about Steph Curry.

(22:26):
You're not thinking constantly how are we gonna win without Steph?
You're not one when is Steph coming back? This is
gonna be the story that sucks up all the oxygen.
And you can react to whoever you want to. You
can be upset and defend Draymond Green, you can blow
it off. But guess what, you're not thinking as much
about the game. It's not the big storyline coming in.
It's Draymond and how he's treated by the officials. And oh,

(22:46):
by the way, Draymond's gamesmanship going into these next few games,
knowing full well he is two fouls away from a suspension.
I'm gonna throw this out there, and I'm gonna make
the officials afraid to throw because they're gonna thrift. They
row me out. Boy, this shows you there's a big
sort of conspiracy against the Warriors. I'm gonna dare them
to throw.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
You can't throw me out when I bring this up.
Because I bring this up, now it becomes a thing.
You want to give me a you want to give
me a technical foul, you want to give me a flagrant,
you want to do anything. Okay, now you really got
to think about that because I've made it this way.
I've made it racial, I've made it a different conversation.
So he accomplish as kind of both of those things
where hey, your teammates can kind of not have to
worry about answering questions about Steph and their game and

(23:28):
losing and all the Buddy healed. Hey, buddy, you turn
back into buddy heel? Are you still batman or you rob?
What's going on? And instead that's the way it is.
And now going back home, Draymond may get the officials
on his side for two big games where they're thinking, hey,
if things go our way, we're suddenly up three to one,
and Steph can sit out a couple of games and
come back in game six, which is about twelve days

(23:49):
after Game five is played.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Now that's would be That's the interesting wrinkle to it.
See how Draymond's officiated, because he certainly has had a
couple of instances that didn't result in technicals, didn't get
him in trouble, but you know the little extra in.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Plays and if he's your guy, you love it.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
If he's not, then you're you're screaming bloody murders and
where's the fall he's abusing my guy. So you've got that, uh,
And it'll be interesting to see how they officiated.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
We've talked a.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Lot about these playoffs and how physical it has been
up and down the court to where you know, at
times you're you're wondering where exactly the line in the
sand is for the officials in terms of game flow,
game speed, players getting files called right, look at what
Denver did. They got absolutely shell ACKed their last time out.

(24:43):
But it was a lot of complaining at the end
of the game, and and and post about early files
called on Jokic and the files. You know, he's a
multi MVP. He should be getting that call that he's
not so for the Warriors heading back home. Yeah, I
see your point. It is a we'll see if it
pays off. Right, it's a bold strategy, Cotton, how about that.

(25:06):
We'll just put it in those terms. But again in
invoking the race angle to it, I don't think he
does this teammates any favors. Like I get it, they're
not being asked about the game and whatever else, But
you gotta find.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Some way to You gotta find some way to cut through.
And if he just says, oh, they're making a target
to me, Okay, is it that big a deal is Jason?

Speaker 8 (25:26):
If that's the case, we're not playing any more of
this sound ever again, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I mean this is I mean dram I mean Draymond. Look,
there's no way he can really believe that's true. There's
no way I think anybody believes that. How you know,
what he said about that is true, which is why
I go to the did he do it with that way?
Maybe he went over the top a little bit, But look,
Draymond's an emotional guy, right, So.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
If that's what theatrical question.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
If he went that way, I can see why he
did that because he knows what the reaction is going
to be doing a fifteen second post game walking out,
you know, making it racial. Okay, all of a sudden,
now that's becomes a whole big thing, and now the
officials are on notice, and now the team is okay.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Also, I'm not thinking about this lost to Minnesota. I'm
not thinking back to what happened. I'm thinking forward. I'm
thinking about stepping up for Draymond. And suddenly you're in
a better headspace, Like I knowing Draymond's career that this is,
these are kind of the things that he does. So yeah,
absolutely leave the door open for him that he did
it for that reason, mainly because there's no leg to

(26:27):
stand on from otherwise. So if he did it motivational,
while okay, I get it, I really do.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Can I just say that the one thing I would
love is the camera in Steve Kerr's office is on
and giving us a great facial reaction and expression of
all expressions when that Draymond's sound is played back to him. Now,
this assumes that Draymond didn't tell him his master plan. Wait,
do you see what I say, coach, I'm gonna make

(26:53):
it all better.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
A he made punch Draymond in the face like Michael
Jordan did him.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Enough.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Now you always said I was gonna pay this forward.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Here you go. This is a punch.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's been twenty years coming, so you asked, Hey, now
his teammates have to answer questions about that, Okay. Jimmy
Butler was asked about this following Draymond and the outburst
he had there. This was Jimmy Butler asked about his
reaction to Draymond, saying he gets picked on and what
goes on on the court. And here's Jimmy Butler's answer.
He very clearly thinks his reputation, you know, is costing

(27:30):
him for sure.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
What are you thinking about that?

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I mean, I'm in agreeance.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Like he's doing it on purpose. He's trying to sell
a call or something like that, and so I just
hit it.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Say there to me, Hey, I agree, I'm selling the
calls on purpose. I'm doing all of a sudden, he's
I'm defending Draymond Green. It's not a question about it.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
But that guy didn't ask him the question properly. Well,
he asked him about no, But there's one thing to say.
His reputation is getting him calls. That's much different than
what Draymond said. Yeah, much different. That's well, he.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Said, Well, I don't know, Okay, I'm just going to
how things are at a game. So here's Draymond who
says this, and now a different reporter asked the question
to Jimmy Butler, and maybe the reporter didn't hear the
full question, didn't hear the full answer the way it was.
So I'm going to ask how I how I know, like, oh,
there's no way that that this guy, this reporter in

(28:28):
the middle of the of of what's going on, you
can guarantee that he would have heard the question, gotten
the answer, and now can Hey Draymond said this, this
and this, So hey, I want to ask it in
a way where I am kind of summing up what
I heard he said and getting an answer from Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
So that's kind of just saying the answer from Jimmy
Butler is not to the other question. Well, he said, well,
but but it's it's Draymond answer what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
But he answered the question that was asked. I mean again,
because this is this is a real hectic scene in
the post I'm not making excuse me, you're wrong with
something there, but this is what am I What am
I on?

Speaker 8 (29:01):
Because Draymond's press conference was in the locker room, Jimmy
Butler's was at the podium.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, so I don't know that maybe that that wasn't taken. Yeah,
because it's hard to be at both, right, yeah, the yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
I'm not saying that that that that can't be the
case that he didn't see both. I'm just saying Jimmy's
responding to a much more sanitized version of Draymond's quite
you know, his response and his twenty eight second presser.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, but I mean but that, but I could see
that just because that's how hectic in his postgame with
some reporters in the locker room, some reporters at the podium.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Hey, did you hear what what Draymond said?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
What did he say? And he said what he said?
You know that portraying me as an angry black man.
And I'm successful, I'm all of this and and okay,
so what do I ask Jimmy Butler now? I've heard
that this is what Draymond Green said. Do I want
to say that? Not if I didn't hear it or
I didn't hear it in full context, But I got
to ask Jimmy Butler it. So how do I ask
the question? So again, as you said, it's a more

(30:03):
sanitized version, I'm still asking the question, getting Jimmy Butler's answer.
Jimmy Butler, who's at the podium, answers the question that
he has asked. But right away you saw, Hey, I'm
jumping to Draymond's defense. He'd right aways at absolutely Raymond's reputation. Yessolutely, absolutely.
This is gonna be one of the two responses you
get from from the Warriors. They're gonna have Draymond's back

(30:23):
or they're gonna blow it off and say, hey, okay,
but this is not what I'm not gonna talk about this.
But there's nothing else to talk to you about, Okay,
So I move on enough to worry about the media
have to worry about getting asked about Steph for everything else,
I could just focus on basketball, like I can see
that being the way, and that being how these questions
are now being asked and answered right now at postgame,
like right now, at postgame now tomorrow, everybody will have

(30:45):
heard the sound bite. Everyone heard what is said. Everyone's
gonna have reasons responses for it. The Warriors will have
a press conference after practice, or they'll be interviewed after practice.
What do you make of Draymond's comments? So you'll have
twenty four hours to digest it, to get more of
a to get more of a of an accurate answer
to hey, Draymond said this, what do you think this is?
Kind of after the game. Here's the best way we

(31:06):
can get an answer to what Draymond said when still
the flow of information might not be what you think
it is.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
That's that's my point for.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
This Right now, time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports. Moncey Milanos has it
all for us, including what the Knicks did on their
off day before they get ready for Game three against
the Celtics.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Mancy, what do you think they did on their off day?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Ah, they watched the video of the Celtic security guard saying, hey,
help over here.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
All the fans keep yelling Nixon for Nixon four.

Speaker 7 (31:34):
That video is hilarious, so so good. That is probably
what they were watching on a big screen TV. Everything
has wrapped up except for the NHL Playoffs Oilers and
Golden Knights. It's been back and forth.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Las Vegas had.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
A chance to win it with like eighteen seconds and
the puck hit the post. They didn't get it. They're
going to overtime. Tied up for a piece. The Capitals
did defeat the Hurricanes in their matchup three to one,
so that series is tied at one apiece. Talking about
Yimmy Butler and Raymond Green yep his fifth technical in
today's loss. As the Timberwolves have even. The series against

(32:08):
the Warriors went seventeen to ninety three. Was the final score.
Game three will be on Saturday. Julius Randall was the
leading scorer for Minnesota twenty four points, seven rebounds, and
eleven as cists. In Major League Baseball, the games have
officially wrapped up.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
The Diamondbacks top the Dodgers five to three.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
Yoshinobu Yamamo gave up a grand slam to Gabrielle Moreen.
All this happened in Arizona. The Blue Jay snapped the
four game losing streak with an eight to five victory
over the Angels and rookie pinch hitter Drake Balden wins
it for the Braves. They aged the Reds five to
four and eleven innings. He had an RBI single to
walk it off. The Phillies completed three games sweep of
the Rays with the seven to six win in ten innings,

(32:46):
and the Tigers. They defeated the Rockies twice today as
they had a doubleheader. And lastly, did you guys see
that boxing superstar Manny Pakiao is coming out of retirement.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
He's not gonna fight, He's not in that fight.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
No, he's gonna face Mario Marios for the WBC Welterweight
Championship on July nineteenth in Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Not Jake Paul might be more interesting.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah, I was gonna say Manny pas old as hell.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, Yeah, I was.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
Gonna be Jake Paul.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
That's not it. Well, you never know, things could.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Change back to you, guys. Thanks a bunch, Monzie, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We'll
have more on Draymond Green coming up. More reaction to
his fiery postgame commentary after the Warriors lost. But straight ahead,
remember a few weeks ago, I said, Hey, if you
need a superstar, call this team.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Because I think you can get him.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
After today, I'd call that team again because I think
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Speaker 3 (35:16):
Very much too.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
Yeah, well, lot more on that in a few minutes. Well,
not if he did it purposely, We're not playing it again.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
No, but let's say we throw it out there, right,
we make that Listen, we were giving everybody their angles. Hey,
everybody listening, all the producers, everybody listening tonight. These are
all the angles you'll hear tomorrow on TV and on
the radio. We're giving you all the angles.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Now.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Why we're tomorrow's show the night before at.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
How about a fresco at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports
Radio in the Twitter verse.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
If you want to chime in on this.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Now, before we get to that, let me say this.
It was.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
It was about three and a half weeks ago. I said, hey,
if your team needs a superstar, you need a third baseman,
call the Red Rafael Devers. Right, he is not happy,
not happy that he was being taken out of playing
third base Alex Bregman, who they got in the offseason,
gold glove third basement. Devers is not a good third baseman,

(36:12):
great hitter, great player, but was very unhappy that he
was taken out of playing third base. His position started out.
To see what he strikeout seventy five times in a
row to start the year. Yeah, he's not happy. He
hasn't been happy. He wasn't happy when they asked him
to change positions, when they told her he was going
to be the designated hitter, he was not happy. I said,
call the Red Sox you can get Devers. All things

(36:33):
kind of plateaued a little bit, and okay, maybe things
have calmed down a little bit. Oh no, no, you
need a third baseman. You want to get Rafael Devers.
Call the Red Sox again. Here's your big baseball headline
of the night. He was very vocal, very upset that
the Red Sox asked him to move to first base.

(36:55):
Of course you're having the big injury there. They have
an opening at first, but they had a couple of
players splitting the job. Hey what if you played first base?
Rafael Devers has zero desire to help the Red Sox
by playing first base. Here's a couple of his quotes
from the media session today talking about it. Quote, I
don't think it would be an appropriate decision by them

(37:15):
to ask me to play another position, because he was upset.
They havesked to play DH at the beginning of the season.
Now another position. He doesn't want to do it. He said,
their GM played ball. I'd like to think he knows
that changing positions isn't easy. They put me in this situation.
Now they should do their jobs essentially and hit the
market and look for another player like this is boy,

(37:37):
what a team first guy? Rafael Devers is. He is
not happy, and I call the Red Sox tomorrow saying
let's make this work. Because now the Red Sox have
had the better part of two months to go through
the beginning of the MLB season and what have they seen. Well,
we're kind of a five hundred team, but no one's
running away with this division. The Yankees are flawed. Can

(37:58):
we continue to deal with this distraction with Devers?

Speaker 3 (38:01):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Or can we turn him into something that can solve
our hole at first base or somewhere else? Because Dever
is still he's got a big contract. But the guy hits, right,
the guy's a really good player. You can move on
from him. I would call it. I bet you they
got itchy fingers right now, and I want to press
a button on that. I call for Rafael Devers because
the Red Sox can't be happy. He doesn't want to
be a team first guy and help them. And I

(38:24):
understand that he's upset saying, hey, you didn't really approach
me about this, and now you want me to be
a DH and then you want me to play another position. Okay,
playing DH isn't really playing a position, but I understand
where you're coming from. You're just gonna hit, You're not
gonna play a position. So this is not working for
anybody right now. It's the second time they've been at
odds in the last two months. I call the Red
Sox and I say, what do you need. Let's make

(38:45):
a deal.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Distressed property, anger and dissent, and maybe it gets allayed,
just like we saw at least for tonight coaching staff
of the Tea Wolves and Anthony Edwards. Everybody got along
in a blowout win over the Warriors. But are there still,
you know, some issues behind the scenes or was it

(39:09):
all motivational tactics. Well, remains to be seen. In this
particular case, you had a guy very explicitly said that's
my position.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
I'm not giving it up. Go pound sand and they said,
all right, let's kick that down down the road. And
then people get hurt.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
You need some changes to your lineup, and then you
have this discussion point again.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
So yeah, distress property.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
This goes back to our favorite movie to reference on
Fox Sports Radio of Draft Day.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
We live in a different world than we did thirty
seconds ago.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
So whatever you thought the asking price was for Devors,
whatever the Red Sox might have given you in an
off the record conversation, guess what that price went down.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Sure there may be more suitors.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Coming to the door, but they can't have this drag
out for another film months.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
And you're never getting third base back because let me
ask you a question, Mike Carmen, who do you think
leaves the Red Sox in batting average, home runs, RBI,
on base percentage and hits?

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Who do you feat that?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Carbo or Bernie very good?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Bernie Carbo was tied with Alex Bregman, who leads the
Red Sox in all of those category. Dude, you're not
getting third base back. I'm sorry, it's not happening. You're obviously.
And the thing is, he's obviously not happy, and I
don't know what the Red Sox can make him happy.
He wants to play the field. I think this is
one of those cases where I get both sides. I mean,
I would be more of a team player if I

(40:34):
was Dever saying, okay, at least I'll try first base,
because hey, if I want you to move, I want
other teams to think I can be a team first
guy rather than just drawing a line in the sand.
But I really it's it was bad to start the season.
It hasn't got any better. Now he's calling out the franchise. Yeah,
I think this is a time where by this time
next week, Dever should be on a different team.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Well, well, limit the number of teams because you have
a ten year, three hundred and thirteen million dollar contract.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'm not saying we're everybody. I'm not saying everybody.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
He can't bring all the boys to the yard.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
That takes.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I can trade Mark Vento's for Rafael Devers.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I can get that in a second.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
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