January 14, 2026 • 40 mins
Giannis booing the fans after getting booed in Milwaukee by Bucks fans is NOT something Jason and Mike had on their bingo cards tonight. This is going to end up being the moment when Giannis decided he wanted out of Milwaukee!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Let's go coming up
in twenty minutes. Do we have a Yannis story for you?
I would say this coming into tonight, I felt like, yeah, okay,
after what he said, after how the season's going, Yannis
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getting traded sometime in the next month probably not gonna
happen after what happened in the game tonight. Now, I
think it's it's inevitable that he's gonna get traded after
what happened, because because there was a cross the Rubicon
kind of moment in the Bucks game tonight, which we're
gonna bring to you, gonna hear it now, I think, okay,
this is the one thing that will cause a player
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to go no.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I love it here.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
When to stay the rest of my career too, Yeah,
get me out, get me out.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Just the other day it was I'm an employee.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, I know. Well, you know, Janie Is Yannis is
someone who I'll say this, he needs to be a
better superstar. I'll explain why in a few days. But
he needs to be a better superstar when it comes
to dealing with his own career. All right, and then
I'll explain it. But I'll tell you tonight what happened. Man,
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woo look out, look out.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I love chaos in between the white lines. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
However, the biggest story of the day obviously in the
NFL Mike Tomlin out as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
He has resigned as head coach of the Steelers. Keep
his rights. He's not expected to coach in twenty twenty six,
probably end up on TV, maybe sitting right next to
Jay Glazer. And then I'm sure he will re enter
the coaching cycle in twenty twenty seven or when he
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sees a job he wants open up, because remember the guys, Yeah,
he's only fifty three, right, He's still got a lot
of years ahead him as a head coach, like, Hey,
if I don't see the openings I want in twenty
twenty seven, twenty twenty eight is okay, right, I'll be
alright with that. So this is where we're sitting for
Mike tom We spent a lot of time tonight talking
about Tomlin and the antiquated offensive system that he runs
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and why both sides it's good for both he and
the Steelers that they're moving on from each other. But
one thing that I really look back to look back
at his legacy of nineteen years, all winning seasons with
the Steelers, It's incredible to think that you can win
for nineteen years, right, to not have a season under
five hundred every year, to be in the playoffs, to
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win the division, you won a super Bowl, and yeah,
Steelers fans a little bit different of a standard you're
used to there. Hey, we haven't won a playoff game
in ten years, but we've gone oh and six in
playoff Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Want a playoff game in ten years.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But he deserves way more credit for the era of
Steeler football that he presided over than anybody wants to
give him credit for. Because while yes, when a team
falls short, there's always blame to go around. There's blaming
the coaching staff, there's blaming on the players, But to
think about how he navigated winning for the most part,
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with Ben Roethlisberger as his quarterback that he did not
get along well with. Right, You've heard all the stories.
You saw Roethlisberger say the other day Tomlin should take
the head coaching job at Penn State. Boy, he recruit
What do you mean he'd recruited. He's been an NFL
at coach for two decades. You think he's gonna be
a great recruiter. Like this is your backhanded compliment of hey,
Tomlin should be out right, you know what, there's a
lot of folks that are actually jumped on board that
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he can't possibly coach in the NFL. He should go
to college. You'd be a great recruiter, like really, like
like he like he made it, Like he made his
name coaching in college, just jumped to the NFL like
three years ago.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Right, Like he can go and recruit, right, Like I
get it. It's a different world now, ANIL world that
looks more like the pros or whatever else. But it's
still a much different game and he's not gonna stay
in in the Pros and try to push for another
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Come on, yeah, so you know that, you know how
he had to deal with Le'Veon Bell who was a
daily drama filled distraction, Antonio Brown, who was a daily
drama filled distraction. Oh by the way, these were the
three best players that he had over the course of
most of his run, right, As talented as Le'Veon Bell was,
as talented as an Tonio Brown was, as talented as
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Ben Roethlisberger was for the most part the last few years.
Roethlisberger really lost a lot last couple of years. He
couldn't throw the ball more than five yards pass the
line of scrimmage, kind of like Aaron Rodgers now. But overall,
this is what he had to deal with and still
he won, right, Like I mean, Chuck Nolan Terry Bradshaw
hated each other, but they won super Bowls. But that's
a bygone era. That's you're talking about the seventies and
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early eighties.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
For this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
This is modern era, modern player with facetiming from the
locker room and live streaming, postgame press conferences and and
speeches to the team that that Antonio Brown did and
Mike Tomlin got mad at him for UH to be
able to win when you have to balance those egos,
and every day it's something new when you're wondering what
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bombshell the Pittsburgh prost Gazette is gonna have, UH Rest
in Peace, Pittsburgh Post Gazette is gonna have because Roethlisberger
allegedly is told Ed Bouschett something or you know, I mean,
any how does anybody know? How does everybody know how
our quarterback is injured? How does everybody know what our
quarterback's injured? I don't understand, like the stuff that Tomlin
had to deal with with the Steelers. I mean, look,
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every coach has to deal with something, and they deal
with players being late to meetings all the time. Now
it's a much different era in the NFL now than
it was, and you see players are late to meetings
all the time. It's not a it's not a thing
where you're late to meeting I can find you. That
used to be the exception. Now it's like, yeah, hey,
we got to keep our meetings to twenty minutes because
players want to get on their phones. And it's a
much different time now. But to go through and very
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publicly every week, it felt like there was some sort
of battle between the four of them, and whether it
was Tomlin versus Roethlisberger or Bell or Brown. I mean,
this is a decade plus of these guys you have
to navigate your way through, and still you're able to
come to work every day and enjoy it. Like that's
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a tough part for me. Man, How do you come
to work and enjoy it when you know that the
three most talented guys on the team are guys every
day I have to stay. I have to steal myself
pun intended going in there and seeing whatever today has
to bring us, as far as drama with my quarterback's injury,
what Le'Veon Bell wants to do or not want to do,
what Antonio Brown has said or not said, what he's
live streamed or not live streamed, like that is I
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don't think we're taking into account just the fact that
not only did Tomlin win and win like he did,
but these are guys that he won with who are
an absolute handful that are really tough to coach. Great players,
but tough to coach. And that's the biggest challenge a
coach has, because now you'll get a guy like Aaron
Glenn that wants to come in and say, oh, I
know it wins in the NFL. Oh, I want to
change out thirty guys and bring in third. You're never
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gonna win. I'm just I know. I'm waiting out Aaron
Glenn because you can't come and change an entire ross.
You have to deal with some of the guys there,
if they're really talented, and find a way to make
it work. It's what the best coaches do. It's what
Ben Johnson did this year. It's what Liam Cohen did
this year. It's what all the first year at coaches
that find themselves deep in the playoffs, what Mike Vrabel
did this year. You can't just change everybody out. Okay, well,
you gotta see how to find a way to make
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it work. These guys might not be my favorites, but
they're really talented and we can win football games with them.
So how do I move my philosophy around what they do?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Aaron Glenn doesn't want to do it. He's gonna get fired.
He's gonna win three games again next year. But Mike
Tomlin found a way to win despite it being the
situation with them, and I don't know of another coach
that would make it even half as long without saying
I gotta go. I need a new I need a
fresh start someplace else. I need new guys to coach.
I can't come in every day and look at these
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four guys and just think, what kind of drama is
today going to bring us? What do you have to
worry about the day of the game. What's going to
concern me following the game with them? Like I felt
bad for Tomlin for a long time that he's he's
saddled with three of the biggest divas in the NFL. No,
but they made a choice, right and he had to
buy in to a degree.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Anybody that tries to contend that, you know, Con and
his predecessor, you know they weren't leaning on Tomlin in
terms of roster construction, particularly in the back half of
this nineteen year run. And you're kidding yourself, right, he
gets to pick the groceries. And it's like any job
anybody out there on wherever you work. I mean, you
look around and there's one, two, five, however many, However,
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large organization is where you've got some superstars in terms
of what they can do in between your the white
lines of whatever your field is, accounting sales go on
down the line that yeah, maybe they're a pain in
the ass, but they get results. It's special rules for
special people. And Mike Tomlin, that's the one thing you
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got to give him credit for above all, was recognizing
all right, Antonio Brown, there's there's you kill him with
kindness until you can't all the wide receivers Le'Veon Bell.
Funny how Antonio Brown and le'veop Bell ended up his jets,
But we'll discuss that another time. But just for the
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idea of like for most and until there's the drop
off in production or you have another option on your
roster that allows you to say I have to make
this move, or you've done the calculus just saying okay,
this position can be downgraded to a degree because we
can make up for it here here and here quarterback position.
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You could argue that's kind of what they did, and
then did the last throws of a guy's run give
another an olive branch out there to justin fields. We
can get that going now to a point. Because you
wanted Russell Wilson to be your guy, right and once
Russ was there, and you realize, all right, that didn't work.
You ran it out. Kenny Pickett was your starter and
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leading quarterback for a couple of years in the post
Roethlisberger era. Yeah, just now you're gonna sing the Dean
Martin version of that one. But but all of that say,
you have these specials. Go back to Jimmy Johnson all
those years ago talking about guys falling asleep and meetings, Troy,
what did you miss? Let me catch you up versus
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get get out, save the here and for Tomlin, he
was a master of that. And also it helped you
where you're winning. So, like we talked about the organized
chaos in Philadelphia, so long as you're winning and consistently
putting forward a plus five hundred product, the boom ber
drolling going to be so loud. Right, the Ed Bouchette
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columns became I'm not saying the guy's career became a joke,
but anything coming out, it's like End's telling you he's
heard again, Okay, right, I mean, in the wake of
everything that was going on in Jacksonville, I mean, how's
that you know we talk about, you know, things getting
leaked and reporters and messages and missives and whatever. But
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for Mike Tomlin, I have a nineteen year run. Man,
it's just an amazing way to manage people. And I
think that's one thing that can't be understated.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'd read his book and well, and you know what
else he's thinking right now, here's Mike tom I thinking, Man,
if the Pittsburgh Post Gazette went away when I started,
maybe I would have stayed there and I would have
won more.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It would have been easier, right I look at that,
Maybe I wouldn't have to worry about leaks all the
time and people getting stories because the Pittsburgh Post Gazette
is going away, like it's not becoming another This isn't
such an underrated story last week.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I couldn't believe it. Like I don't know that there
were more stories that were broken by a local newspaper
for an NFL team than what the Pittsburgh Post Gazette
broke in the Tomlin error with the Steelers with with
Roethlisberger and Brown at you whoever else was talking to them.
I mean, the Pittsburgh Post Gazette is going away, like
it's not even gonna be just an online version like
they are ceasing publication the Pittsburgh Post.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Cause at is it two months? I think?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Or three months? They are ceasing publication? How much Tomlin's going? Man,
if we didn't have a newspaper here when I started,
I could have won three Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Man, it would have been great. Or I wouldn't had
to just chug Maylock's after every game because I'm just
feeling I need something. Wouldn't have a candy dish worth
worth a thumbs in my office going on, I need
another one, Need another one, Eat another one, eat another one.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I wouldn't have had that if there was no Pittsburgh
Post because that man. Want to go back in time
and make that happen back in two thousand and six,
May third the file edition and we'll cease operations. I mean,
is there another Pittsburgh newspaper? I don't think there is. Right,
this is a famous this is a famous paper. This
is this is not just hey some paper that says
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it's not like oh USA Today is not printing anymore.
Oh okay, Well I've been around since nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
What you had a Tribune review? Like what?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think the Pittsburghost because it's been around sin it's like,
what's seventeen sixty something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The only paper you need.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
In Pittsburgh, Yeah is Primani Brothers menu. Oh wow, that
is true. That's the only paper you have.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Those people do sandwich hats. Yeah, like the cheese grater
hat that was stand on steroids. How do you have
the neck muscles? Ay? To do that, you need the
Sean Penn neck muscle. You can't just put that hat
on a cigarette. You need you need to prep first.
I am a Christmas adventurer.
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That's on me. That's my fault. I let you down.
We got more NFL on the way. Just appreciate Mike tom.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
On the job he did there with what he had
to go through for a long time in Pittsburgh. But
straight ahead, why I think now after tonight Giannis is
gonna get traded and it's all got to do with
one play from tonight's game. That's next right here, Jason
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So, uh, it's been a minute since
we've had a great Yannis trade story, right. It was
in the off season Jannie instructed his agent to hey
look into according to reports, allegedly allegedly to look into
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a trade. Allegedly were some discussions with the Knicks. Nothing
came to fruition. Okay, we'll table it over the summer.
More talk hey. Beginning of the season not great again.
Sources with the reports that Jannie has instructed his agent
talk to the Bucks about if the Bucks is still
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the best fit for him. Is it still or is
it better for him to go someplace else? Is this
good for the company company? It's a jump to conclusions, Matt,
you jump on the map. So okay, now we get
into the early parts of December. The Milwaukee Bucks are terrible.
But Yannis says this past weekend, I want to stay
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a Buck. I'm here, I don't want to get traded.
I am going to be a Milwaukee Buck. I love
it here. Okay, So Yana is saying that either because
he found out, dude, no, one's giving us what we
want for you in a trade, or because he decided
I want to stay. Jannis has decided that's it. He's
not gonna get traded. So four days ago, five days ago,
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I thought, you know, okay, well that's out. Now Jannis
isn't going anywhere, and he's gonna wind up staying in Milwaukee,
and they're gonna try to make it run in the
Eastern Conference, which is not great. However, after what happened
tonight near the end of Minnesota's blowout win over the
Buck Bucks one nine, one oh six, one play happened,
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and I'm pretty sure now it's just a matter of
time before Yannis gets traded. Here's the play by play
from tonight. This is again, this is late. The Bucks
are getting blown out, Yannis is still playing hard. The
crowd is booing the Bucks because they're getting killed again.
They're seventeen and twenty three, they're in the bottom of
the Eastern Conference. The crowd is booing, and Yannis decides
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to take things into his own hands.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
In tough to to kid.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Yana swissual discreas with this team.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Bucks TV on the call, Yana is showing his displeasure.
As you heard in the play by play, he gets
a hoop and the and he sits up and he
puts his thumbs down, and you could hear him yell boo.
You play that back again, you're after the whistle. You
can hear Janni's yelling boo. You could see it. He's
got his thumbs down.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Play one more time, Mary, right here, right, you heard
the right there. He booed his own fans, who he
was sick of for booing him. Yeah, Yannis is getting traded.
In fact, just like last night when when I put
out it went viral last night, the tweet I put
out about Aaron Rodgers when I said, this is the
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moment Aaron Rodgers will have decided to retire. And it's
his face mask all askew on the stripsack fumble, like
the moment of Yan Yannis just sitting there and I
just put it on Twitter. And how about a Fresco
Yan is sitting there with his thumbs down, yelling boo
at the crowd. That's the moment where Yannis decided, you
know what, it's not working. I want out because you
don't turn on the fans like this and this doesn't
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unless it's you're close to saying I can't do it
here anymore. Jannis loves the fan base, loves being there.
They won a title there, everything you know about his
career since since getting there. But things have become really
difficult and now they're not good, and now the fans
are booing and Yannis loses it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
He boos his own fans. Anybody who boos his own fans?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
How close is it til he actually gets traded? Not
very far. Now, the Bucks gotta ramp things up. You
have a month, you got a little over month to
figure things.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Out, so you have some time. But now I wouldn't
be surprised if you had an accelerated timeline for Yanna's trade. Again,
this is such a big deal because this doesn't have
You don't boo your own fans unless you have crossed
the rubicon.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And that's it. Nah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Now maybe he'll apologize. I'm sorry, it's this emotion's got
away from me. But it's hard to come back from
this when fans are sick of this era. You know
that you're not getting better, you know, you know that
you're not going to be a title contender anytime.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Soon.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
You tried to move the team around you, maneuver it
around you, where Chris Middleton is our too. No, now
we're moving away from that. We're bringing in other guys
that didn't work. Damian Lillard didn't work.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
He knows it. But I still want to figure out
a way to stay and make it work. Not after this.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is where Yannis is gone, and he's gonna have
to be the bad guy because this is how you
get trade. This is why I said a few minutes ago,
Giannis is kind of a bad superstar in that he
doesn't know how to act. He's worried too much about
what his actions, what he says, how it's going to
be received in that Oh, all the talk about Janis
wanting out, it's my agent, and I can dust it off,
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and I can blow it off if I want to,
and I can say I want to stay, making my
agent look bad, making my representation look bad, but oh,
I want to be looking as a good guy. If
you you have to use the power that you have
as a superstar, if you want change, and if you
want out, you gotta say so. So he's been a
bad superstar when it comes to does he want to stay,
does he want out? Is he gonna be a buck?
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Is he not gonna be a buck? You got to
come out and you gotta.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Say it now.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Basically you just said it when you're brewing your own fans.
But now I'm not gonna be surprise the next twenty
four hours you hear he and he's got to say
it because this is how this is how stars wind
up getting what they want. Yeah, it's time for me
to go. It's time for me to go out. I
want to win more championships. It's time for me to go.
It's time for me to get trades.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's funny. It goes all the way back to I mean,
the most egregious example of it was the decision. Uh
not the decision and that TV show itself, folks have
dissected that every way till Tuesday, but the the idea
thereafter of we didn't realize that people would hate us
so much. Duyane Wade Lebron kind of crying about that.
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It's like, what did you think was gonna happen? Yeah,
he s that's the way it goes. Empire. Man's alright,
it's hard.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You don't put your arms around the Yankees you don't
put you you know, you don't put your arms around
an empire.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You don't put your arms around the memory either. I
was leading you to that it was right there. But
for for Giannis, uh, you just at the point where
he's always want to be the good guy and everything,
as you say, through the agent plausible deniability, Did he
really ask for this? Well, allegedly his agent is. And
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it's all the reports and anonymous reports, and you decide
what's real what's imagined. I love that fire. Doc is
also trending alongside this right now, as doc rivers is there.
Eric neim or name from The Athletic asked Giannis about
the exchange. His response about getting booed never never been
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a part of that, have I I don't think so
something new for me? It doesn't change, It's the same thing.
Doesn't matter. I thrive through adversity. I choose not to run.
I thrive through adversity. I thrive when people don't believe
in me. Doesn't matter if I'm on the road, if
I'm at home, if I'm at my family dinner, if
I'm in the practice facility with my teammates, it really
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doesn't matter. So yeah, I've never been part of something
like that before, so it is something new for me.
I like it though, love it.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Last two guys I remember booing the fans Hobby bai
As with the Mets. They didn't bring him back, Julius
Randall with the with the Knicks, they traded him away,
right like when when?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
When?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
This is?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
This is a really big moment. This is I'm showing
my frustration. The fans have had it, He's had it.
It's like the the relationship conversation that you know you
have to have but neither of you wants to have it.
And then something happens to accelerate it, like there's a
big there's an accelerant that comes in. It's okay, well
now we're gonna talk about this now. Now I hate
you and I hate you and boo and you want
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to boo me.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And I'll boo you. Like this is embarrassing. This, I mean,
I went the man.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I see you see guys doing this, but you never
see like as frustrated as Lebron James might be with
the Lakers, Like is he ever gonna boo the fans?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
No, it's not gonna. Lucas never gonna boo the fans.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, and you're gone, and you and you and you
and you're out and you get rid of these five guys,
and now I got a new patch to wear to
show I got guys ejected.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Uh, the superstars, No, I'm not. I can't do this right.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Some players get frustrated because of their status because they're
not a star, because they they're not making the money
they want, they're not getting the minutes they want. Yeah,
I get when stuff like that happens. Johannis is a
superstar the highest proportion of the of the NBA. And
when when when he you know he's done, when this
is where he is at and both sides are done,
the bucks are done sucking. I mean, you gotta understand
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the fear Milwaukee. Come on, I mean, I know you
have Giannis, but you won one title. That's more than
then then you're probably we're gonna get over a fifty
year span even with Giannis, right, So just understand you're
lucky you got that one title.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's awesome, but you're not gonna suddenly be this great
team that somebody is a small market team that can
do and you win year after year after year, after year.
Uh so you know that that's a whole I understand
that part of it, but I get the frustration for
everybody where they should be better and they're not. And
and this is where everything came to a head tonight
in the fourth quarter of this game. I mean, we'll
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look back at this moment and say, that's where, y'all,
when the minute Giannis is sitting on the floor and
he's got his thumbs down, We're gonna say that's the
moment where Yan has decided I have to get out.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I have to get out this number one. I really
hope there's a tops now card for that tomorrow of
him booing the fans and going full combatis and second
to all of this, we need to remember in the
we age ourselves right, we do this a lot, and
it's like, wow, you know, feeling a little creaky and
you feel those days y'all this has been in the
league thirteen years. Yeah, it's been right. So you're you're
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at the you're beyond the half life of it all.
And now it's also time to Perhaps this affords Milwaukee
the opportunity to just say, you know what, we can
move into the future, get into the future, whether it's
a bunch of draft picks and a couple of expiring
contracts and you do a full bottom out and reset
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and wishing to hope that you can sell the greater
city of Milwaukee. Maybe some help from Alice Cooper in
that four you as well, that you can get into
that next phase of free agency and redraft and you know,
the redraft and reload whatever. But for Yiannis, you're in
those final throws. And as much as we love the
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romanticism of a guy starting and finishing his career in
the one spot, perhaps this is, you know, the heart
that allows you that door of your beloved superstar uh
to get out out of your relationship in this way.
The other is for Yiannis. I mean some of it is,
you know, he's salty, and I think the fans have
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to understand that too. He's also saddled with a bad
roster and.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Doc oh yeah look it's not going Yeah, well he's
been saddled with Doc rivers for a while.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
But I mean, look, that's how you can fix the
glitch pretty fast and play kate people at least for
a little while.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I like how the big jift it went around last
night after the game was you know, here's here's peanut butter,
Here's a Jiff peanut butter, here's a here's Mike top
picture of Mike Tomlin in the playoffs, and it's Doc
Rivers prompose over Mike Tomlin's body.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
That was that was cruelty right there. There's no question
about it. Ah, that was great.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But I mean it's for Yannis to be there this
long is great and you've seen the best of Giannis.
This is not a Lucas situation where you're trading a
superstar who's twenty five, twenty six years old. This is
where you've seen the best of him. You know that
he's gonna have trouble being you know, with this style
of play and his size, he's gonna have a trouble
staying healthy the rest of his career. And if he
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wants out, Okay, you got lucky, you had thirteen years.
You want a championship. I get that it's very difficult
and you're reliant on the lottery to get that number
one pick. But if he wants out, you're finding a way.
It's not working. There's nothing else, But if you want
this trade, he's gotta say it right, Teams aren't gonna
trade a star unless they get that ultimatum.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
We've seen it.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We've seen guys want to intimate about a trade or
I hate we're looking into a trade, and teams are
gonna say, yeah, not trading our star. But when when
that guarantee goes out or that message goes out where
a star says I want out, guess what, it's only
a matter of time until that happens. Now, it's gonna
be working overtime now for Milwaukee to make this trade
happen in the next in the next, you know, four
(28:14):
weeks or so, but it can happen.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And I don't know that. I don't know there's anything
that's gonna stop that right now.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Just also remember he was the fifteenth pick in that
twenty thirteen draft, So you already you got over, Yeah, right,
you got over. I mean guys drafted ahead of him,
Anthony Bennett, Victor Oladipo, Nice Career Otto Porter, Junior, Cody Zeller,
Alex Lynn Nerlin's, Noel, Ben Macklamore, KCP, Trey Burke, CJ McCollum,
(28:45):
Michael Carter, Williams, Steven Adams, Kelly alynnok and Schabbaz Mohammad.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, you got lucky. You're you're lucky there now, Now,
Frostburg's got a message. You have a message for for
Giannis rossbergers to night's loss.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Okay, you do okay, God, what do you got for me?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
To be honest, I just want to tell you congratulations
on your success, young man. You hold your head up
all right. You did a great job out there today.
You just hold your head up.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Would you like to add an addenda to that justin Lakers?
Thank you? Oh that was That's great.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Frostbur time out to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. But guy has been called the
Liam Cohen of Fox Sports Radio. Once in a while,
we have to tell him the great job he's done,
even if he hasn't done a great job. It's Steve Disager.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
And this is where I say, Dovo, you know, our
beloved producer could have just said Milwaukee, because I think
that's the name of the county that there is. Milwaukee,
by the way, before we continue talking about that town.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Actually it's pronounced Meliwalkee, which is Algonquin for the good lamd.
I was not aware of that. Wait for us, We'll
get to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
At a moment in college hoops, Kansas was at home
against number two Iowa State.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Undefeated no more at absolute domination, eighty four to sixty
three Kansas.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Kansas wins at home against an Iowa State team that
was sixteen and oh coming in largest win by a
Division one club against an opponent that was sixteen and
oh or better coming in since nineteen seventy two. There
is college hoops on FS one. Right now, about six
minutes to go, USC is pulling away against Maryland, which
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is winless in the Big ten, seventy three to sixty two.
Two late games in the NBA and LA Lakers were
up thirty.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's now.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Lakers won sixteen to ninety seven over Atlanta under eight
minutes to go. Laker's still shooting fifty seven percent from
the floor. Lukadancic twenty seven points. He had been questionable
for the game at Golden State Warriors sixty nine to
fifty over Portland. Early in the third STEPH Curry won
of seve been shooting and the Warriors are up by
about twenty and have been for a while Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
This game just tipped off ten minutes ago. Steve, thank
you NBC.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I did read, by the way, that one of the
network hockey games actually outdrew one of the NBC NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Games last week about a million and a half viewers.
That most wow. That's wow.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
We're just getting started with NBC basketball coverage.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Oklahoma City's record thirty four and seven. They had been
oh and three against the Spurs this year, but beat
San Antonio de nay one nineteen ninety eights, Minnesota, and Houston,
with wins Miami and Denver as well. And yeah, that
Minnesota win was at Milwaukee one thirty nine to one
oh six. This Minnesota shot sixty percent from the floor.
The Mavericks Anthony Davis will be reevaluated in six weeks
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after his second opinion surgery is not required on his
left hand. In an NHL late game, Duck's at home
now leading to nothing over Dallas with about two minutes
left earlier, Tampa Bay, when it's eleventh game in a row,
a shootout win at Pittsburgh two to one, Boston three
nothing over Detroit Saint Louis three nothing over Carolina and
Washington and overtime beat Montreal three to two. The Diamondbacks
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acquired third baseman Nolan Aeronado and cash from Saint Louis.
Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin stepped down after nineteen seasons.
The Eagles removed Kevin Petula as offensive coordinator. The Chargers
fired Oh see Greg Roman.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. We are not
worthy after that update.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I'll tell you I think, although I got I guess
say when he's doing the Milwauk, I just kept thinking
of Brooklyn nine to nine, when when Boyle keeps saying
his son's name and everybody else has a correct he
keeps correcting them.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's Nicolage, Nicolage, Nicolage, Nicolage, Nicolage.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's like this running bit throughout the entire show. Nicola, Hey,
how's nicolage Nicolage?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Right? No, it's what I said, Nicolas Nicolage.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Coming up next, we get back into the Mike Tomlin
Pittsburgh Steelers divorce. Who won the breakup? There is already
a clear winner. It's next right here, Jason Mike Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (33:10):
This is Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Right, this is ELP.
This the fanfare for the common man. Yeah, I have buddy.
This was if I remember this right. This was the Islanders'
intro when they won.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Four after they won four Stanley Cups in row in
the eighties, Like they would play this song and see
the four cups rotating around and see the Blackhawks.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Too cold, steel Ice, Tenanna, Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
If you're the Bucks, you could trade Giannis and get
Emerson Lake and Palmer back, all right, three for one
three four one three four one.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Who's gonna fight it?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
So?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
The biggest story of the day in the NFL, Mike
Tomlin out as Steelers head coach. He resigns after nineteen years.
Likely will not coach in twenty twenty six, Probably get
a job somewhere in twenty twenty seven. He'll be on
the Sean Payton train of I'll sit out. The Steelers
still own his rights because he resigned. There will be
some sort of trade. He will pick his destination in
(34:14):
a year. Right, it's probably we're gonna get from Mike Tomlin.
Now there's already a winner in the Mike Tomlin Steelers' divorce.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Even though this is a.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Coaching move that sort of needed to happen, it's a
breakup that, Hey, we've been together a long time, but
I don't see there being a future. There's things I
want to do in my life, There's things you want
to do in your life, and I don't know that
our career goals meet anymore. Hey, we were a great
team for a long time, but I think we've outgrown
(34:48):
each other. We both want to do other things. And
it's one of those conversations where, hey, it was a
good breakup.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It wasn't like we had screaming at each other. It
was a really good break We all understood we needed
to move on, right, That's what it is. It's kind
of like the the Brody and Marina backer in conversation
in the first season of Homeland when they realize they
have to get divorced, and it was, hey, listen.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, we're are we breaking out? Yes, we're moving on. Okay,
what a great conversation that was. I've never had one
of those in real life, but I've seen it on TV.
See I was thinking, now is more like the end
of the Three Brothers, Tail and deathly Hallows and I
and Death friends. Hey, you want to be friends with death.
(35:27):
You don't want death on your bad side forever. But
eventually I'm done with this. Here's the cloak. I'm out. Hey, man,
you're you're friends with death? Right?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, we talk, we text. Hey, could you tell them
to lay off me for a while. Oh, we don't
have that kind of relationship, man, I I can't.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
All I can say is that when death comes from me,
I hope that death looks like Aubrey Plaza in the
Agatha Harkness. Okay, the Marvel Cinematic universe. That's very specific.
That is very When I was little, I thought, I thought, okay,
it's weird you say that. When I was little, I
thought God looked like the jolly green Giant.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Believe, like when I was like five, when because we
did a thing in school like, what do you think
God looks like? And I said the jolly green Giant,
I said, that's my teacher made sure to tell my
mom madly, Hey, you know, just so you know your
son thinks God looks like the jolly Green Giants.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Well it's you the the meaning of life. Green Giant
comes for you, and you shut up, you Americans. All
you do is talk talk talk. But there's already a
winner in this breakup. And the winner is the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Because we talked about this last night, right like we
I thought the way this season was gonna go in
the off season, I said, Tomlin and Steels are gonna
sit down. The Steelers are gonna say listen, want to
go forward with you. We know you're a great coach,
but you need to embrace a modern era of football.
You need to embrace that we need a quarterback that
can make plays, not a get by guy, which is
what you've tried to do for the better part of
(36:55):
the last six years, right the end of Roethlisberger into
post Roethlisberger to where we are now. You can't win
that way. We have won a playoff game in ten years.
We won playoff games and we had Roethlisberger and Bell
and Antonio Brown were able to do all these things,
and Roethlisberger would have three hundred and fifty yard passing games.
We can't run football like it's nineteen eighty seven. And
I love nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Man, I loved it. I'd like eighty seven was great.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Eric, Yes, the Mets were coming off the World Series.
It was I love nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It was great Straw and Good and were beginning a
monster run.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Appetite for destruction had just come out, like a eighty
seven was awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Mitchell was a rookie. Yes, city four years old today.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
By the way, Happy birthday, Kevin Mitchell. H But this
is how Mike Tomman wants to run the team. He
can't win that way, and yet he's been allowed to
run it this way because of his success. For a while,
Pittsburgh's not gonna win. Pittsburgh has a different level of
what's acceptable than most teams in the NFL do. The
level of acceptance in Pittsburgh as we win games, go
to the playoffs, win playoff games, and go to Super Bowls.
(37:57):
Not we win nine or ten games weekend. Maybe we're
the conference, the division champion, maybe we're a wild card.
We play one game and we lose, right, I would
love that. But Pittsburgh and the Steelers are different. Now
they know whoever they hire, they're gonna bring in someone
with a much more modern approach to offense. That's gonna
go get a quarterback that's a franchise quarterback. Again, that's
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going to amplify the weapons on offense because the weapons
are not great. They have a couple of get by
guys at running back. Yet Kenneth Gainwell is a nice
third down back, but Jalen Warren has not been successful
as the lead back. Dk Metcalf is not the dominant
wide receiver that he was with Seattle. Seattle wouldn't have
traded him if that was the case. Friar Muth is
not jumped in and made that big jump at tight end.
(38:40):
They are just a get by offense that doesn't scare
anybody in the playoffs. So now there's a clear winner
because whoever Pittsburgh hires is going to be some with
a more forward, modern view of offensive football. And that's
what we talked about this with Tomlin. Forever the game
is passed them by offensively. Now they're gonna get a
guy that gets you to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah you got it. As a coach, certainly, they always
say the message gets old and whatever. It's like, well, yeah,
he's there a long time. The players cycle out, so
that doesn't really hold for me. Friarmouth the latest in
a long laundry list of guys leaving after wild Card
weekend to say I did like my role, so we'll
see what happens there. But certainly from an offensive perspective,
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you know, you play and you're winning consistently, you never
bottom out, so you're not getting that top draft pick,
and you're putting bandages on because you know you paid
a lot of money for the defense, and the defense
showed up in big spots and even in the game
against Houston for most of the game, they kept you
in it. They gave you every chance for Aaron Rodgers
(39:41):
in that offense to come through and do something to
no avail and you go home early. Great, another playoff appearance.
But you're talking fifteen years. We were doing this with
Harball a week ago. You're talking fifteen years since you
won that Super Bowl. That's a lot of ass time
midnight and that stability to wor you're consistently winning nine,
(40:02):
ten eleven games. That's great and most fan bases would
kill for that. But at some point you look at
each other and say this, it's been a good run.
And but but the hard part for the new guy
is you and you and inherited team. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, not great, yeah, but not one that you're starting
the studs starting over. You are you are XU accelerating
it with a move at quarterback, probably at running back,
probably a receiver, a tight end. You're accelerating a quarterback.
There's your billion dollar question, you know, Hey, trade up
with the Jets for Dante Moore? Hey exit about a
(40:39):
Fresca exit swollen dome coming up next. We got big
stuff out of the NBA, including Jannis talking about booing
his own fans tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, he's getting traded. That's next. Fo
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Let's go coming up
in twenty minutes. Do we have a Yannis story for you?
I would say this coming into tonight, I felt like, yeah, okay,
after what he said, after how the season's going, Yannis
(00:49):
getting traded sometime in the next month probably not gonna
happen after what happened in the game tonight. Now, I
think it's it's inevitable that he's gonna get traded after
what happened, because because there was a cross the Rubicon
kind of moment in the Bucks game tonight, which we're
gonna bring to you, gonna hear it now, I think, okay,
this is the one thing that will cause a player
(01:13):
to go no.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I love it here.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
When to stay the rest of my career too, Yeah,
get me out, get me out.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Just the other day it was I'm an employee.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, I know. Well, you know, Janie Is Yannis is
someone who I'll say this, he needs to be a
better superstar. I'll explain why in a few days. But
he needs to be a better superstar when it comes
to dealing with his own career. All right, and then
I'll explain it. But I'll tell you tonight what happened. Man,
(01:40):
woo look out, look out.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I love chaos in between the white lines. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
However, the biggest story of the day obviously in the
NFL Mike Tomlin out as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
He has resigned as head coach of the Steelers. Keep
his rights. He's not expected to coach in twenty twenty six,
probably end up on TV, maybe sitting right next to
Jay Glazer. And then I'm sure he will re enter
the coaching cycle in twenty twenty seven or when he
(02:07):
sees a job he wants open up, because remember the guys, Yeah,
he's only fifty three, right, He's still got a lot
of years ahead him as a head coach, like, Hey,
if I don't see the openings I want in twenty
twenty seven, twenty twenty eight is okay, right, I'll be
alright with that. So this is where we're sitting for
Mike tom We spent a lot of time tonight talking
about Tomlin and the antiquated offensive system that he runs
(02:27):
and why both sides it's good for both he and
the Steelers that they're moving on from each other. But
one thing that I really look back to look back
at his legacy of nineteen years, all winning seasons with
the Steelers, It's incredible to think that you can win
for nineteen years, right, to not have a season under
five hundred every year, to be in the playoffs, to
(02:48):
win the division, you won a super Bowl, and yeah,
Steelers fans a little bit different of a standard you're
used to there. Hey, we haven't won a playoff game
in ten years, but we've gone oh and six in
playoff Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Want a playoff game in ten years.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But he deserves way more credit for the era of
Steeler football that he presided over than anybody wants to
give him credit for. Because while yes, when a team
falls short, there's always blame to go around. There's blaming
the coaching staff, there's blaming on the players, But to
think about how he navigated winning for the most part,
(03:27):
with Ben Roethlisberger as his quarterback that he did not
get along well with. Right, You've heard all the stories.
You saw Roethlisberger say the other day Tomlin should take
the head coaching job at Penn State. Boy, he recruit
What do you mean he'd recruited. He's been an NFL
at coach for two decades. You think he's gonna be
a great recruiter. Like this is your backhanded compliment of hey,
Tomlin should be out right, you know what, there's a
lot of folks that are actually jumped on board that
(03:48):
he can't possibly coach in the NFL. He should go
to college. You'd be a great recruiter, like really, like
like he like he made it, Like he made his
name coaching in college, just jumped to the NFL like
three years ago.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Right, Like he can go and recruit, right, Like I
get it. It's a different world now, ANIL world that
looks more like the pros or whatever else. But it's
still a much different game and he's not gonna stay
in in the Pros and try to push for another
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Come on, yeah, so you know that, you know how
he had to deal with Le'Veon Bell who was a
daily drama filled distraction, Antonio Brown, who was a daily
drama filled distraction. Oh by the way, these were the
three best players that he had over the course of
most of his run, right, As talented as Le'Veon Bell was,
as talented as an Tonio Brown was, as talented as
(04:38):
Ben Roethlisberger was for the most part the last few years.
Roethlisberger really lost a lot last couple of years. He
couldn't throw the ball more than five yards pass the
line of scrimmage, kind of like Aaron Rodgers now. But overall,
this is what he had to deal with and still
he won, right, Like I mean, Chuck Nolan Terry Bradshaw
hated each other, but they won super Bowls. But that's
a bygone era. That's you're talking about the seventies and
(04:58):
early eighties.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
For this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
This is modern era, modern player with facetiming from the
locker room and live streaming, postgame press conferences and and
speeches to the team that that Antonio Brown did and
Mike Tomlin got mad at him for UH to be
able to win when you have to balance those egos,
and every day it's something new when you're wondering what
(05:22):
bombshell the Pittsburgh prost Gazette is gonna have, UH Rest
in Peace, Pittsburgh Post Gazette is gonna have because Roethlisberger
allegedly is told Ed Bouschett something or you know, I mean,
any how does anybody know? How does everybody know how
our quarterback is injured? How does everybody know what our
quarterback's injured? I don't understand, like the stuff that Tomlin
had to deal with with the Steelers. I mean, look,
(05:45):
every coach has to deal with something, and they deal
with players being late to meetings all the time. Now
it's a much different era in the NFL now than
it was, and you see players are late to meetings
all the time. It's not a it's not a thing
where you're late to meeting I can find you. That
used to be the exception. Now it's like, yeah, hey,
we got to keep our meetings to twenty minutes because
players want to get on their phones. And it's a
much different time now. But to go through and very
(06:08):
publicly every week, it felt like there was some sort
of battle between the four of them, and whether it
was Tomlin versus Roethlisberger or Bell or Brown. I mean,
this is a decade plus of these guys you have
to navigate your way through, and still you're able to
come to work every day and enjoy it. Like that's
(06:28):
a tough part for me. Man, How do you come
to work and enjoy it when you know that the
three most talented guys on the team are guys every
day I have to stay. I have to steal myself
pun intended going in there and seeing whatever today has
to bring us, as far as drama with my quarterback's injury,
what Le'Veon Bell wants to do or not want to do,
what Antonio Brown has said or not said, what he's
live streamed or not live streamed, like that is I
(06:52):
don't think we're taking into account just the fact that
not only did Tomlin win and win like he did,
but these are guys that he won with who are
an absolute handful that are really tough to coach. Great players,
but tough to coach. And that's the biggest challenge a
coach has, because now you'll get a guy like Aaron
Glenn that wants to come in and say, oh, I
know it wins in the NFL. Oh, I want to
change out thirty guys and bring in third. You're never
(07:13):
gonna win. I'm just I know. I'm waiting out Aaron
Glenn because you can't come and change an entire ross.
You have to deal with some of the guys there,
if they're really talented, and find a way to make
it work. It's what the best coaches do. It's what
Ben Johnson did this year. It's what Liam Cohen did
this year. It's what all the first year at coaches
that find themselves deep in the playoffs, what Mike Vrabel
did this year. You can't just change everybody out. Okay, well,
you gotta see how to find a way to make
(07:34):
it work. These guys might not be my favorites, but
they're really talented and we can win football games with them.
So how do I move my philosophy around what they do?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Aaron Glenn doesn't want to do it. He's gonna get fired.
He's gonna win three games again next year. But Mike
Tomlin found a way to win despite it being the
situation with them, and I don't know of another coach
that would make it even half as long without saying
I gotta go. I need a new I need a
fresh start someplace else. I need new guys to coach.
I can't come in every day and look at these
(08:03):
four guys and just think, what kind of drama is
today going to bring us? What do you have to
worry about the day of the game. What's going to
concern me following the game with them? Like I felt
bad for Tomlin for a long time that he's he's
saddled with three of the biggest divas in the NFL. No,
but they made a choice, right and he had to
buy in to a degree.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Anybody that tries to contend that, you know, Con and
his predecessor, you know they weren't leaning on Tomlin in
terms of roster construction, particularly in the back half of
this nineteen year run. And you're kidding yourself, right, he
gets to pick the groceries. And it's like any job
anybody out there on wherever you work. I mean, you
look around and there's one, two, five, however many, However,
(08:45):
large organization is where you've got some superstars in terms
of what they can do in between your the white
lines of whatever your field is, accounting sales go on
down the line that yeah, maybe they're a pain in
the ass, but they get results. It's special rules for
special people. And Mike Tomlin, that's the one thing you
(09:06):
got to give him credit for above all, was recognizing
all right, Antonio Brown, there's there's you kill him with
kindness until you can't all the wide receivers Le'Veon Bell.
Funny how Antonio Brown and le'veop Bell ended up his jets,
But we'll discuss that another time. But just for the
(09:27):
idea of like for most and until there's the drop
off in production or you have another option on your
roster that allows you to say I have to make
this move, or you've done the calculus just saying okay,
this position can be downgraded to a degree because we
can make up for it here here and here quarterback position.
(09:48):
You could argue that's kind of what they did, and
then did the last throws of a guy's run give
another an olive branch out there to justin fields. We
can get that going now to a point. Because you
wanted Russell Wilson to be your guy, right and once
Russ was there, and you realize, all right, that didn't work.
You ran it out. Kenny Pickett was your starter and
(10:09):
leading quarterback for a couple of years in the post
Roethlisberger era. Yeah, just now you're gonna sing the Dean
Martin version of that one. But but all of that say,
you have these specials. Go back to Jimmy Johnson all
those years ago talking about guys falling asleep and meetings, Troy,
what did you miss? Let me catch you up versus
(10:31):
get get out, save the here and for Tomlin, he
was a master of that. And also it helped you
where you're winning. So, like we talked about the organized
chaos in Philadelphia, so long as you're winning and consistently
putting forward a plus five hundred product, the boom ber
drolling going to be so loud. Right, the Ed Bouchette
(10:53):
columns became I'm not saying the guy's career became a joke,
but anything coming out, it's like End's telling you he's
heard again, Okay, right, I mean, in the wake of
everything that was going on in Jacksonville, I mean, how's
that you know we talk about, you know, things getting
leaked and reporters and messages and missives and whatever. But
(11:15):
for Mike Tomlin, I have a nineteen year run. Man,
it's just an amazing way to manage people. And I
think that's one thing that can't be understated.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'd read his book and well, and you know what
else he's thinking right now, here's Mike tom I thinking, Man,
if the Pittsburgh Post Gazette went away when I started,
maybe I would have stayed there and I would have
won more.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It would have been easier, right I look at that,
Maybe I wouldn't have to worry about leaks all the
time and people getting stories because the Pittsburgh Post Gazette
is going away, like it's not becoming another This isn't
such an underrated story last week.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I couldn't believe it. Like I don't know that there
were more stories that were broken by a local newspaper
for an NFL team than what the Pittsburgh Post Gazette
broke in the Tomlin error with the Steelers with with
Roethlisberger and Brown at you whoever else was talking to them.
I mean, the Pittsburgh Post Gazette is going away, like
it's not even gonna be just an online version like
they are ceasing publication the Pittsburgh Post.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Cause at is it two months? I think?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Or three months? They are ceasing publication? How much Tomlin's going? Man,
if we didn't have a newspaper here when I started,
I could have won three Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Man, it would have been great. Or I wouldn't had
to just chug Maylock's after every game because I'm just
feeling I need something. Wouldn't have a candy dish worth
worth a thumbs in my office going on, I need
another one, Need another one, Eat another one, eat another one.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I wouldn't have had that if there was no Pittsburgh
Post because that man. Want to go back in time
and make that happen back in two thousand and six,
May third the file edition and we'll cease operations. I mean,
is there another Pittsburgh newspaper? I don't think there is. Right,
this is a famous this is a famous paper. This
is this is not just hey some paper that says
(12:57):
it's not like oh USA Today is not printing anymore.
Oh okay, Well I've been around since nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
What you had a Tribune review? Like what?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think the Pittsburghost because it's been around sin it's like,
what's seventeen sixty something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The only paper you need.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
In Pittsburgh, Yeah is Primani Brothers menu. Oh wow, that
is true. That's the only paper you have.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Those people do sandwich hats. Yeah, like the cheese grater
hat that was stand on steroids. How do you have
the neck muscles? Ay? To do that, you need the
Sean Penn neck muscle. You can't just put that hat
on a cigarette. You need you need to prep first.
I am a Christmas adventurer.
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Again.
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That's on me. That's my fault. I let you down.
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Speaker 1 (14:16):
On the job he did there with what he had
to go through for a long time in Pittsburgh. But
straight ahead, why I think now after tonight Giannis is
gonna get traded and it's all got to do with
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So, uh, it's been a minute since
we've had a great Yannis trade story, right. It was
in the off season Jannie instructed his agent to hey
look into according to reports, allegedly allegedly to look into
(15:38):
a trade. Allegedly were some discussions with the Knicks. Nothing
came to fruition. Okay, we'll table it over the summer.
More talk hey. Beginning of the season not great again.
Sources with the reports that Jannie has instructed his agent
talk to the Bucks about if the Bucks is still
(15:59):
the best fit for him. Is it still or is
it better for him to go someplace else? Is this
good for the company company? It's a jump to conclusions, Matt,
you jump on the map. So okay, now we get
into the early parts of December. The Milwaukee Bucks are terrible.
But Yannis says this past weekend, I want to stay
(16:20):
a Buck. I'm here, I don't want to get traded.
I am going to be a Milwaukee Buck. I love
it here. Okay, So Yana is saying that either because
he found out, dude, no, one's giving us what we
want for you in a trade, or because he decided
I want to stay. Jannis has decided that's it. He's
not gonna get traded. So four days ago, five days ago,
(16:43):
I thought, you know, okay, well that's out. Now Jannis
isn't going anywhere, and he's gonna wind up staying in Milwaukee,
and they're gonna try to make it run in the
Eastern Conference, which is not great. However, after what happened
tonight near the end of Minnesota's blowout win over the
Buck Bucks one nine, one oh six, one play happened,
(17:05):
and I'm pretty sure now it's just a matter of
time before Yannis gets traded. Here's the play by play
from tonight. This is again, this is late. The Bucks
are getting blown out, Yannis is still playing hard. The
crowd is booing the Bucks because they're getting killed again.
They're seventeen and twenty three, they're in the bottom of
the Eastern Conference. The crowd is booing, and Yannis decides
(17:26):
to take things into his own hands.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
In tough to to kid.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Yana swissual discreas with this team.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Bucks TV on the call, Yana is showing his displeasure.
As you heard in the play by play, he gets
a hoop and the and he sits up and he
puts his thumbs down, and you could hear him yell boo.
You play that back again, you're after the whistle. You
can hear Janni's yelling boo. You could see it. He's
got his thumbs down.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Play one more time, Mary, right here, right, you heard
the right there. He booed his own fans, who he
was sick of for booing him. Yeah, Yannis is getting traded.
In fact, just like last night when when I put
out it went viral last night, the tweet I put
out about Aaron Rodgers when I said, this is the
(18:33):
moment Aaron Rodgers will have decided to retire. And it's
his face mask all askew on the stripsack fumble, like
the moment of Yan Yannis just sitting there and I
just put it on Twitter. And how about a Fresco
Yan is sitting there with his thumbs down, yelling boo
at the crowd. That's the moment where Yannis decided, you
know what, it's not working. I want out because you
don't turn on the fans like this and this doesn't
(18:56):
unless it's you're close to saying I can't do it
here anymore. Jannis loves the fan base, loves being there.
They won a title there, everything you know about his
career since since getting there. But things have become really
difficult and now they're not good, and now the fans
are booing and Yannis loses it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
He boos his own fans. Anybody who boos his own fans?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
How close is it til he actually gets traded? Not
very far. Now, the Bucks gotta ramp things up. You
have a month, you got a little over month to
figure things.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Out, so you have some time. But now I wouldn't
be surprised if you had an accelerated timeline for Yanna's trade. Again,
this is such a big deal because this doesn't have
You don't boo your own fans unless you have crossed
the rubicon.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And that's it. Nah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Now maybe he'll apologize. I'm sorry, it's this emotion's got
away from me. But it's hard to come back from
this when fans are sick of this era. You know
that you're not getting better, you know, you know that
you're not going to be a title contender anytime.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Soon.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
You tried to move the team around you, maneuver it
around you, where Chris Middleton is our too. No, now
we're moving away from that. We're bringing in other guys
that didn't work. Damian Lillard didn't work.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
He knows it. But I still want to figure out
a way to stay and make it work. Not after this.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is where Yannis is gone, and he's gonna have
to be the bad guy because this is how you
get trade. This is why I said a few minutes ago,
Giannis is kind of a bad superstar in that he
doesn't know how to act. He's worried too much about
what his actions, what he says, how it's going to
be received in that Oh, all the talk about Janis
wanting out, it's my agent, and I can dust it off,
(20:31):
and I can blow it off if I want to,
and I can say I want to stay, making my
agent look bad, making my representation look bad, but oh,
I want to be looking as a good guy. If
you you have to use the power that you have
as a superstar, if you want change, and if you
want out, you gotta say so. So he's been a
bad superstar when it comes to does he want to stay,
does he want out? Is he gonna be a buck?
(20:52):
Is he not gonna be a buck? You got to
come out and you gotta.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Say it now.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Basically you just said it when you're brewing your own fans.
But now I'm not gonna be surprise the next twenty
four hours you hear he and he's got to say
it because this is how this is how stars wind
up getting what they want. Yeah, it's time for me
to go. It's time for me to go out. I
want to win more championships. It's time for me to go.
It's time for me to get trades.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's funny. It goes all the way back to I mean,
the most egregious example of it was the decision. Uh
not the decision and that TV show itself, folks have
dissected that every way till Tuesday, but the the idea
thereafter of we didn't realize that people would hate us
so much. Duyane Wade Lebron kind of crying about that.
(21:35):
It's like, what did you think was gonna happen? Yeah,
he s that's the way it goes. Empire. Man's alright,
it's hard.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You don't put your arms around the Yankees you don't
put you you know, you don't put your arms around
an empire.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You don't put your arms around the memory either. I
was leading you to that it was right there. But
for for Giannis, uh, you just at the point where
he's always want to be the good guy and everything,
as you say, through the agent plausible deniability, Did he
really ask for this? Well, allegedly his agent is. And
(22:09):
it's all the reports and anonymous reports, and you decide
what's real what's imagined. I love that fire. Doc is
also trending alongside this right now, as doc rivers is there.
Eric neim or name from The Athletic asked Giannis about
the exchange. His response about getting booed never never been
(22:32):
a part of that, have I I don't think so
something new for me? It doesn't change, It's the same thing.
Doesn't matter. I thrive through adversity. I choose not to run.
I thrive through adversity. I thrive when people don't believe
in me. Doesn't matter if I'm on the road, if
I'm at home, if I'm at my family dinner, if
I'm in the practice facility with my teammates, it really
(22:53):
doesn't matter. So yeah, I've never been part of something
like that before, so it is something new for me.
I like it though, love it.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Last two guys I remember booing the fans Hobby bai
As with the Mets. They didn't bring him back, Julius
Randall with the with the Knicks, they traded him away,
right like when when?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
When?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
This is?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
This is a really big moment. This is I'm showing
my frustration. The fans have had it, He's had it.
It's like the the relationship conversation that you know you
have to have but neither of you wants to have it.
And then something happens to accelerate it, like there's a
big there's an accelerant that comes in. It's okay, well
now we're gonna talk about this now. Now I hate
you and I hate you and boo and you want
(23:33):
to boo me.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And I'll boo you. Like this is embarrassing. This, I mean,
I went the man.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I see you see guys doing this, but you never
see like as frustrated as Lebron James might be with
the Lakers, Like is he ever gonna boo the fans?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
No, it's not gonna. Lucas never gonna boo the fans.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, and you're gone, and you and you and you
and you're out and you get rid of these five guys,
and now I got a new patch to wear to
show I got guys ejected.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Uh, the superstars, No, I'm not. I can't do this right.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Some players get frustrated because of their status because they're
not a star, because they they're not making the money
they want, they're not getting the minutes they want. Yeah,
I get when stuff like that happens. Johannis is a
superstar the highest proportion of the of the NBA. And
when when when he you know he's done, when this
is where he is at and both sides are done,
the bucks are done sucking. I mean, you gotta understand
(24:29):
the fear Milwaukee. Come on, I mean, I know you
have Giannis, but you won one title. That's more than
then then you're probably we're gonna get over a fifty
year span even with Giannis, right, So just understand you're
lucky you got that one title.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's awesome, but you're not gonna suddenly be this great
team that somebody is a small market team that can
do and you win year after year after year, after year.
Uh so you know that that's a whole I understand
that part of it, but I get the frustration for
everybody where they should be better and they're not. And
and this is where everything came to a head tonight
in the fourth quarter of this game. I mean, we'll
(25:02):
look back at this moment and say, that's where, y'all,
when the minute Giannis is sitting on the floor and
he's got his thumbs down, We're gonna say that's the
moment where Yan has decided I have to get out.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I have to get out this number one. I really
hope there's a tops now card for that tomorrow of
him booing the fans and going full combatis and second
to all of this, we need to remember in the
we age ourselves right, we do this a lot, and
it's like, wow, you know, feeling a little creaky and
you feel those days y'all this has been in the
league thirteen years. Yeah, it's been right. So you're you're
(25:33):
at the you're beyond the half life of it all.
And now it's also time to Perhaps this affords Milwaukee
the opportunity to just say, you know what, we can
move into the future, get into the future, whether it's
a bunch of draft picks and a couple of expiring
contracts and you do a full bottom out and reset
(25:53):
and wishing to hope that you can sell the greater
city of Milwaukee. Maybe some help from Alice Cooper in
that four you as well, that you can get into
that next phase of free agency and redraft and you know,
the redraft and reload whatever. But for Yiannis, you're in
those final throws. And as much as we love the
(26:13):
romanticism of a guy starting and finishing his career in
the one spot, perhaps this is, you know, the heart
that allows you that door of your beloved superstar uh
to get out out of your relationship in this way.
The other is for Yiannis. I mean some of it is,
you know, he's salty, and I think the fans have
(26:33):
to understand that too. He's also saddled with a bad
roster and.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Doc oh yeah look it's not going Yeah, well he's
been saddled with Doc rivers for a while.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
But I mean, look, that's how you can fix the
glitch pretty fast and play kate people at least for
a little while.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I like how the big jift it went around last
night after the game was you know, here's here's peanut butter,
Here's a Jiff peanut butter, here's a here's Mike top
picture of Mike Tomlin in the playoffs, and it's Doc
Rivers prompose over Mike Tomlin's body.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
That was that was cruelty right there. There's no question
about it. Ah, that was great.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But I mean it's for Yannis to be there this
long is great and you've seen the best of Giannis.
This is not a Lucas situation where you're trading a
superstar who's twenty five, twenty six years old. This is
where you've seen the best of him. You know that
he's gonna have trouble being you know, with this style
of play and his size, he's gonna have a trouble
staying healthy the rest of his career. And if he
(27:32):
wants out, Okay, you got lucky, you had thirteen years.
You want a championship. I get that it's very difficult
and you're reliant on the lottery to get that number
one pick. But if he wants out, you're finding a way.
It's not working. There's nothing else, But if you want
this trade, he's gotta say it right, Teams aren't gonna
trade a star unless they get that ultimatum.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
We've seen it.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We've seen guys want to intimate about a trade or
I hate we're looking into a trade, and teams are
gonna say, yeah, not trading our star. But when when
that guarantee goes out or that message goes out where
a star says I want out, guess what, it's only
a matter of time until that happens. Now, it's gonna
be working overtime now for Milwaukee to make this trade
happen in the next in the next, you know, four
(28:14):
weeks or so, but it can happen.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And I don't know that. I don't know there's anything
that's gonna stop that right now.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Just also remember he was the fifteenth pick in that
twenty thirteen draft, So you already you got over, Yeah, right,
you got over. I mean guys drafted ahead of him,
Anthony Bennett, Victor Oladipo, Nice Career Otto Porter, Junior, Cody Zeller,
Alex Lynn Nerlin's, Noel, Ben Macklamore, KCP, Trey Burke, CJ McCollum,
(28:45):
Michael Carter, Williams, Steven Adams, Kelly alynnok and Schabbaz Mohammad.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, you got lucky. You're you're lucky there now, Now,
Frostburg's got a message. You have a message for for
Giannis rossbergers to night's loss.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Okay, you do okay, God, what do you got for me?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
To be honest, I just want to tell you congratulations
on your success, young man. You hold your head up
all right. You did a great job out there today.
You just hold your head up.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Would you like to add an addenda to that justin Lakers?
Thank you? Oh that was That's great.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Frostbur time out to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. But guy has been called the
Liam Cohen of Fox Sports Radio. Once in a while,
we have to tell him the great job he's done,
even if he hasn't done a great job. It's Steve Disager.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
And this is where I say, Dovo, you know, our
beloved producer could have just said Milwaukee, because I think
that's the name of the county that there is. Milwaukee,
by the way, before we continue talking about that town.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Actually it's pronounced Meliwalkee, which is Algonquin for the good lamd.
I was not aware of that. Wait for us, We'll
get to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
At a moment in college hoops, Kansas was at home
against number two Iowa State.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Undefeated no more at absolute domination, eighty four to sixty
three Kansas.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Kansas wins at home against an Iowa State team that
was sixteen and oh coming in largest win by a
Division one club against an opponent that was sixteen and
oh or better coming in since nineteen seventy two. There
is college hoops on FS one. Right now, about six
minutes to go, USC is pulling away against Maryland, which
(30:36):
is winless in the Big ten, seventy three to sixty two.
Two late games in the NBA and LA Lakers were
up thirty.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's now.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Lakers won sixteen to ninety seven over Atlanta under eight
minutes to go. Laker's still shooting fifty seven percent from
the floor. Lukadancic twenty seven points. He had been questionable
for the game at Golden State Warriors sixty nine to
fifty over Portland. Early in the third STEPH Curry won
of seve been shooting and the Warriors are up by
about twenty and have been for a while Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
This game just tipped off ten minutes ago. Steve, thank
you NBC.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I did read, by the way, that one of the
network hockey games actually outdrew one of the NBC NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Games last week about a million and a half viewers.
That most wow. That's wow.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
We're just getting started with NBC basketball coverage.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Oklahoma City's record thirty four and seven. They had been
oh and three against the Spurs this year, but beat
San Antonio de nay one nineteen ninety eights, Minnesota, and Houston,
with wins Miami and Denver as well. And yeah, that
Minnesota win was at Milwaukee one thirty nine to one
oh six. This Minnesota shot sixty percent from the floor.
The Mavericks Anthony Davis will be reevaluated in six weeks
(31:46):
after his second opinion surgery is not required on his
left hand. In an NHL late game, Duck's at home
now leading to nothing over Dallas with about two minutes
left earlier, Tampa Bay, when it's eleventh game in a row,
a shootout win at Pittsburgh two to one, Boston three
nothing over Detroit Saint Louis three nothing over Carolina and
Washington and overtime beat Montreal three to two. The Diamondbacks
(32:08):
acquired third baseman Nolan Aeronado and cash from Saint Louis.
Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin stepped down after nineteen seasons.
The Eagles removed Kevin Petula as offensive coordinator. The Chargers
fired Oh see Greg Roman.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. We are not
worthy after that update.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I'll tell you I think, although I got I guess
say when he's doing the Milwauk, I just kept thinking
of Brooklyn nine to nine, when when Boyle keeps saying
his son's name and everybody else has a correct he
keeps correcting them.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's Nicolage, Nicolage, Nicolage, Nicolage, Nicolage.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's like this running bit throughout the entire show. Nicola, Hey,
how's nicolage Nicolage?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Right? No, it's what I said, Nicolas Nicolage.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Coming up next, we get back into the Mike Tomlin
Pittsburgh Steelers divorce. Who won the breakup? There is already
a clear winner. It's next right here, Jason Mike Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
This is Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Right, this is ELP.
This the fanfare for the common man. Yeah, I have buddy.
This was if I remember this right. This was the Islanders'
intro when they won.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Four after they won four Stanley Cups in row in
the eighties, Like they would play this song and see
the four cups rotating around and see the Blackhawks.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Too cold, steel Ice, Tenanna, Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
If you're the Bucks, you could trade Giannis and get
Emerson Lake and Palmer back, all right, three for one
three four one three four one.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Who's gonna fight it?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
So?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
The biggest story of the day in the NFL, Mike
Tomlin out as Steelers head coach. He resigns after nineteen years.
Likely will not coach in twenty twenty six, Probably get
a job somewhere in twenty twenty seven. He'll be on
the Sean Payton train of I'll sit out. The Steelers
still own his rights because he resigned. There will be
some sort of trade. He will pick his destination in
(34:14):
a year. Right, it's probably we're gonna get from Mike Tomlin.
Now there's already a winner in the Mike Tomlin Steelers' divorce.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Even though this is a.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Coaching move that sort of needed to happen, it's a
breakup that, Hey, we've been together a long time, but
I don't see there being a future. There's things I
want to do in my life, There's things you want
to do in your life, and I don't know that
our career goals meet anymore. Hey, we were a great
team for a long time, but I think we've outgrown
(34:48):
each other. We both want to do other things. And
it's one of those conversations where, hey, it was a
good breakup.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It wasn't like we had screaming at each other. It
was a really good break We all understood we needed
to move on, right, That's what it is. It's kind
of like the the Brody and Marina backer in conversation
in the first season of Homeland when they realize they
have to get divorced, and it was, hey, listen.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, we're are we breaking out? Yes, we're moving on. Okay,
what a great conversation that was. I've never had one
of those in real life, but I've seen it on TV.
See I was thinking, now is more like the end
of the Three Brothers, Tail and deathly Hallows and I
and Death friends. Hey, you want to be friends with death.
(35:27):
You don't want death on your bad side forever. But
eventually I'm done with this. Here's the cloak. I'm out. Hey, man,
you're you're friends with death? Right?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, we talk, we text. Hey, could you tell them
to lay off me for a while. Oh, we don't
have that kind of relationship, man, I I can't.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
All I can say is that when death comes from me,
I hope that death looks like Aubrey Plaza in the
Agatha Harkness. Okay, the Marvel Cinematic universe. That's very specific.
That is very When I was little, I thought, I thought, okay,
it's weird you say that. When I was little, I
thought God looked like the jolly green Giant.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Believe, like when I was like five, when because we
did a thing in school like, what do you think
God looks like? And I said the jolly green Giant,
I said, that's my teacher made sure to tell my
mom madly, Hey, you know, just so you know your
son thinks God looks like the jolly Green Giants.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Well it's you the the meaning of life. Green Giant
comes for you, and you shut up, you Americans. All
you do is talk talk talk. But there's already a
winner in this breakup. And the winner is the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Because we talked about this last night, right like we
I thought the way this season was gonna go in
the off season, I said, Tomlin and Steels are gonna
sit down. The Steelers are gonna say listen, want to
go forward with you. We know you're a great coach,
but you need to embrace a modern era of football.
You need to embrace that we need a quarterback that
can make plays, not a get by guy, which is
what you've tried to do for the better part of
(36:55):
the last six years, right the end of Roethlisberger into
post Roethlisberger to where we are now. You can't win
that way. We have won a playoff game in ten years.
We won playoff games and we had Roethlisberger and Bell
and Antonio Brown were able to do all these things,
and Roethlisberger would have three hundred and fifty yard passing games.
We can't run football like it's nineteen eighty seven. And
I love nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Man, I loved it. I'd like eighty seven was great.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Eric, Yes, the Mets were coming off the World Series.
It was I love nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It was great Straw and Good and were beginning a
monster run.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Appetite for destruction had just come out, like a eighty
seven was awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Mitchell was a rookie. Yes, city four years old today.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
By the way, Happy birthday, Kevin Mitchell. H But this
is how Mike Tomman wants to run the team. He
can't win that way, and yet he's been allowed to
run it this way because of his success. For a while,
Pittsburgh's not gonna win. Pittsburgh has a different level of
what's acceptable than most teams in the NFL do. The
level of acceptance in Pittsburgh as we win games, go
to the playoffs, win playoff games, and go to Super Bowls.
(37:57):
Not we win nine or ten games weekend. Maybe we're
the conference, the division champion, maybe we're a wild card.
We play one game and we lose, right, I would
love that. But Pittsburgh and the Steelers are different. Now
they know whoever they hire, they're gonna bring in someone
with a much more modern approach to offense. That's gonna
go get a quarterback that's a franchise quarterback. Again, that's
(38:18):
going to amplify the weapons on offense because the weapons
are not great. They have a couple of get by
guys at running back. Yet Kenneth Gainwell is a nice
third down back, but Jalen Warren has not been successful
as the lead back. Dk Metcalf is not the dominant
wide receiver that he was with Seattle. Seattle wouldn't have
traded him if that was the case. Friar Muth is
not jumped in and made that big jump at tight end.
(38:40):
They are just a get by offense that doesn't scare
anybody in the playoffs. So now there's a clear winner
because whoever Pittsburgh hires is going to be some with
a more forward, modern view of offensive football. And that's
what we talked about this with Tomlin. Forever the game
is passed them by offensively. Now they're gonna get a
guy that gets you to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah you got it. As a coach, certainly, they always
say the message gets old and whatever. It's like, well, yeah,
he's there a long time. The players cycle out, so
that doesn't really hold for me. Friarmouth the latest in
a long laundry list of guys leaving after wild Card
weekend to say I did like my role, so we'll
see what happens there. But certainly from an offensive perspective,
(39:20):
you know, you play and you're winning consistently, you never
bottom out, so you're not getting that top draft pick,
and you're putting bandages on because you know you paid
a lot of money for the defense, and the defense
showed up in big spots and even in the game
against Houston for most of the game, they kept you
in it. They gave you every chance for Aaron Rodgers
(39:41):
in that offense to come through and do something to
no avail and you go home early. Great, another playoff appearance.
But you're talking fifteen years. We were doing this with
Harball a week ago. You're talking fifteen years since you
won that Super Bowl. That's a lot of ass time
midnight and that stability to wor you're consistently winning nine,
(40:02):
ten eleven games. That's great and most fan bases would
kill for that. But at some point you look at
each other and say this, it's been a good run.
And but but the hard part for the new guy
is you and you and inherited team. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, not great, yeah, but not one that you're starting
the studs starting over. You are you are XU accelerating
it with a move at quarterback, probably at running back,
probably a receiver, a tight end. You're accelerating a quarterback.
There's your billion dollar question, you know, Hey, trade up
with the Jets for Dante Moore? Hey exit about a
(40:39):
Fresca exit swollen dome coming up next. We got big
stuff out of the NBA, including Jannis talking about booing
his own fans tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, he's getting traded. That's next. Fo
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