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April 8, 2026 40 mins

Jason Smith and Kerry Rhodes kick off Hour 3 with Fox Sports Radio MLB insider Jon Paul Morosi, who joins the show to break down the latest from around Major League Baseball. The guys then discuss Laker Star Luka Dončić reportedly heading to Europe for medical care, sparking a broader conversation about athletes seeking treatment overseas and what it means for recovery and performance. They also take a deeper look at the impact of CTE on the National Football League, examining the long-term effects and ongoing concerns surrounding player safety. All that and more in Hour 3 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon! 🔥🎧

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
All Safety Jets with the Jets tight shirt. No, I've
asked you to fix that night four times. I did
fix it.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I feel like when my grandfather said, tells me, can
you can you take the garbage out? Can you make sure? Yeah? Pop,
don't worry about it? And I see it all the time.
He did not fix it. I did. You did not
fix it.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
He doesn't want to be claimed by the Jets.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
He has no choice, does he has. You go to
his Wikipedia page, it says the teams he played for,
does it. You can't go o there and say yeah,
Cowboys all pro, you know, stealers, all pro, packers, all pro.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
So it says Jets pro.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
It says Jet.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Let's just put all pro. Just try it carries what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Hey, by the end of this show, We're going to
figure it out, all right, Very good, very good.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yes, someone's gonna mester with the pdfa fight the end
of the show. I guarantee you so.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
Look.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The big story in sport, the big breaking story we
talked about a few minutes ago here on the show,
the first big brawl of the season in Major League
Baseball between Ronaldo Lopez and Jorge Solaire. Now, the backdrop
to this is Claire has kind of owned Lopez's entire career,
thirteen out of twenty two for his career, including a
home run he hit tonight. Solaire got hit the next

(01:36):
time he came up, and then the time he came
up after that. Lopez throws up high and in, and
after the dust settles after that high and end throw,
Lopez seems to be goading Solaire. He charges the mound,
haymakers are thrown, benches empty. And the most impressive to
detail part is that the entire brawl, Lopez holds onto

(01:58):
the baseball, doesn't get rid of it, doesn't drop it,
holds onto the baseball the entire time. I have never
seen that. You know who may have seen that is
the guy joining us right now on the Hotline Emily
Network Insider extraordinaire. He is on Twitter at John Morosi.
It is John Paul Morosi, John Paul, I have never
seen a brawl in which the pitcher holds onto the

(02:18):
baseball the entire time it goes on. That was pretty impressive.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Good evening, and nor have I right, that was a
first for me as well. We had to zoom in
on the video to realize, hey, he still has the baseball.
It adds to the It adds to the point that
Wayne Randazo made on the Angels broadcast. I think very
aptlete that that it really did come out of nowhere

(02:44):
in terms of how it all started. We were well
into the replays looking at as Seanawell getting down to
the second base, and then all of a sudden, boom,
you heard that the crowd murmuring in the background, as
like we all did in middle school when that sort
of things started to happen. That there was a little
bit of a little bit of a little bit of
a buzz through the crowd, if you will, And my goodness,

(03:07):
it got started. And I have always said Jason and
Kerry and it's it's probably asking too much but we
need to have hockey fighting rules become the rule of
me that if you're gonna challenge someone, you got to
just handle your business and the two of you are

(03:28):
left to your own devices until someone wins, and then
everybody walks off the field. I mean, I've always said this,
this sprint, this sprint in from the bullpen, what are
you gonna do? I realized, I realized you'll have to
do it. But I've always said that's a little bit
of a little bit of eyewash. It's part of it,
it's part of the culture. I get it. I understand

(03:51):
why it happened, but I do think that a lot
of the individuals would be a little bit a little
bit more cautious about starting a brawl if they knew
they had to finish one on their own. And Hore
Solaire obviously is a pretty big man, not someone that
I would mess with. I realized he ended up sort

(04:11):
of being the aggressor. But there was a little bit of,
shall we say, conversation back and forth. It needless to say,
Michael Hill and the MLB office, we'll have a lot
to say about this one in terms of adjudicating some
sort of discipline after the fact. But it, as you
would say in the game, it doesn't look good that
it was home run hit by a pitch ball up

(04:34):
in his eyes. That's not really a great combination there.
So it does appear that Lopez will Lopez left answer
for something and Solaar will as well well.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
JP.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
I mean, obviously, I think come into this year, we
saw the Dodgers making a return back to the World
Series again with that team, that roster and the way
they've been playing.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But well we see the Yankees there again.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
They starting now hot right now, first ten to eight
and two and looking like they have a couple of
stalwarts at the pitching position with with Max fried And
and Camp Slidder as well. And you know you got
the big gun coming back. How are we on the
collision course for Dodgers Yankees again?

Speaker 6 (05:13):
It certainly looks possible, Carrie, And and where where I
would say the biggest news is is on the Yankee
side of things. I think the Dodgers, to your point
was the thinking about the Dodgers was that they were
even better, perhaps in some ways than they were a
year ago. Again, the showy is one more year beyond

(05:34):
the surgery and then you add in Kyle Tucker, and
yes they've had to deal with injuries now of course
Mookie Betts and and Edmund as well on the injured list.
But I think this Dodger lineup, and we're seeing it
right now in a World Series rematch, really the Jays
haven't haven't been able to put up much of a
of an opposition the first two days of the series

(05:55):
here against the Dodgers, and I think that just his
emblematic of how good this LA team is. And you
have a Moto back on the Mount tonight, the same
place where, of course he had that amazing performance in
the World Series. But I think on the Yankee side,
it's a little surprising that they are off to this
start because to your point that they don't have Garrett

(06:16):
Cole back yet, nor do they have Rodon to begin
the year. And there are a lot of people that thought,
myself included, that they may get off the bit of
a slower start, but they've just pitched so well and
their bullpen has been excellent. And this gets back to
something and I usually bring this this quote out once
a year, but it's i'thing to go I'm going to
go ahead and do it early. But this comes from

(06:39):
Jim Leland, the Hall of Fame manager. He would always say,
when you're using your bullpen when you want to, as
opposed to when you have to, when you have no
other choice, you're almost always in better shape. And if
you look at the number of innings per start for
the for the Yankees, their rotation has allowed Aaron Boone
to utilize that pen when he wants to, as opposed

(07:00):
when he has to. Meanwhile, on the Dodgers side of
the things, you've got it when Diaz now back at
the end of the pen and they're just they're really
a deep bullpen. Names that you weren't even seeing a lot.
Tanner Scott, for example, the way that he's pitched this
year so far. He had a bumpy first year in
LA he has been excellent so far. So I think

(07:20):
a lot to like about both teams so far this season.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
You know, the thing is John Paul Obviously we're talking
about a couple of games in April, but this World
Series rematch with the Dodgers and the Blue Jays, you
see John Schneider losing it. It's I feel like the
Dodgers and every year we say this is the best
Dodger team. This is about not only might this be
the best Dodger team, but I feel like they could
play at seventy five percent John Paul all season and

(07:43):
still cruise to one hundred and five wins. Like that's
how good. That's how talented and how deep they are
even after last year, Like they could play at that
pace and go, yeah, it doesn't matter. We got Kyle Tucker.
Could strike out seventeen times in a three game series,
doesn't matter, We're still gonna sweep the series. Like that.
That's how powerful they look right now.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Yeah right, it's the analogy is and and for forgive
me for being someone that has cartoons down in the
house as as a parent. So it's like the Dodgers
are the big guy that the bully, if you will,
who like takes up half the screen, and then you

(08:19):
take your pick from the American League who ends up
being that maybe the like the kid who's running up
against the bully and he takes his best shot and
he like bounces off. And then the next guy comes up,
he takes his best shot, he bounces off too, And
it's it's like you can run whoever you watch it
up against the Bully and they're just gonna kind of
bounce off. And that's obviously. Last year's World Series was

(08:41):
really competitive, coulda gone either way. But that's the point
to that is it's like to beat the Dodgers in
a series. Everything has to be perfect and you got
to take your very best shot and it might still
not be enough. And that was the case of course
the Jays and they had they had a three to
two lead, they had the chance to win it, and

(09:03):
they didn't. You have to have everything go right to
beat the Dodgers in a playoff series, and uh, no
one's been able to do it the last two years,
and certainly it's going to be a tough task for
anybody in the National League at least to be able
to do that here in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, I think the National League is one of those
ones where we can we kind of all pencil in
the Dodgers. But I obviously brobbed the Yankees because of
their hot star. But who's the team out on that
side that could sneak up and possibly overtake the Yankees
in that situation. I know they're not the pennant the
team that won the Pennant last year or won the
American League.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
But right, but who would be the team right now?

Speaker 5 (09:42):
That's because I'm looking at all the teams right now,
and it's you know, the Seattle's kind of struggling. The
Blue Days are obviously struggling right now. What could be
a surprise team coming out out of that division?

Speaker 6 (09:53):
The team that I'd like so far carry is is Baltimore. Okay,
and they haven't started great, but they're they're playing enough,
and they were humbled last year so much, and they've
they've really, i think, retooled their roster in the right
way and and they're just playing solid baseball. They're not
as superstar laden as the Yankees are, but they're a

(10:15):
good team. And to your point, the teams that I
thought coming in would be really good, they've kind of
let me down a little bit. The Mariners have let
me down, The Tigers have let me down, the Blue
Jays have let me down, and and the Jays in particular,
and again we're watching them play the Dodgers right now,
but they've lost three series in a row. They've got

(10:36):
all these injuries to deal with, and and last year
was their year in a lot of ways, and I
realized they didn't win the World Series, but they had
just an extraordinary performance. And sometimes your year is followed
by quite the opposite, and that's what they're experiencing right now.
Their luck has been terrible with injuries and and the

(10:58):
guys are getting off to slow starts. With the Maritors,
Raleigh Rodriguez they're both batting in the one hundreds, as
is Josh Taylor, So the Mariners are really getting off
to a pretty poor start to the Tigers. They lost
tonight with Scoople on the mount. So these are things
that there really shouldn't be happening. And I think it
underscores carry the point you made about how it does

(11:20):
have a bit of an inevitable feeling, at least early
on against very early the Yankees Dodgers, and I think
it's important for the strength of the game broadly speaking.
We're coming off this great World Series. The postseason overall
was really entertaining. The World Baseball Classic was a huge hit.

(11:41):
We got to make sure the momentum continues. And the
only way you could do that is if you have
a lot of excitement and a lot of different markets
and a lot of these teams. They got to start
playing better for that to happen, all right.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So lastly, John Paul to throw out these teams, because
you're right, the American League is full of a lot
of teams that are underachieving. You got the Blue Jays
lost six in a row. The Red Sox are in
last place, and I think Boston fans like, let's just
forget the season. We're done, right. The Tigers have lost
three in a row. Schoobl lost tonight. The Seattle Mariners
have lost four in a row. Coming off their great

(12:14):
year last year. What team are you most concerned about?
Of those of those contenders we expected coming in, what's
team you go? You know, this could be a little
bit more than just early season problems.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
It is the Jays because their their issues are not
are not easily fixable, that they're an older team. They've
and then and some of these injuries are to really
important people who are not coming back soon. That they
signed Cody Ponson in his season debut, Heed who badly
injureds his knee, has to have surgery, is going to

(12:45):
be out six months. He may not throw another pitch
this season. Ale Andro Kirk he doesn't always get the
superstar billing, but he is as important to that team
as a catcher as anybody else in my opinion, and
he's on the injury list now potentially all the way
through the end of May. So that that is the
issue that I see right now, is it's for the JS.

(13:07):
They don't Addison Barner's got put on the il today,
so their issues seem to be less fixable. I think
the Tigers will bounce back a little bit because the
AL Central overall is a little little mediocre right now,
and I think they'll play better. Uh. The Mariners, Rodriguez
and and Naylor and Raleigh are not going to beat

(13:28):
in the one hundreds all season, so that that will
get fixed. But the J's to me, are the team
that I really worry about the most, and I think
in the Nation leagues, I hey, maybe maybe you'll get
a surprise, like like the Pirates, who, by the way,
ever since they lost to the Mets and opening Day Jason,
they've played pretty well. I realized the Mets got the
win tonight, but but but in general, uh, I think

(13:51):
in a lot of ways that the NL might actually
get a couple more surprises between now and the end
of the season.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
That's because I don't want to rain on your parade
because you're celebrating the national championship with your proud Michigan
Wolverines winning a night ago over you context and you're
having a big last couple of days.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
They tell you what what a likable team? Uh, and
in a great in a great final. It was obviously
a physical game, my goodness. Uh, that's the kind of
game where people need shoulder pads usually to play it.
I thought that was but I mean that with a
great deal of effect. It was a tough game. I
just thought Cadot played so well, especially the last last

(14:30):
couple of games there in the final four. Uh, Linda
Borg obviously doing the best he could just to come
back and then play. But I just thought the Michigan's
team overall played such smart basketball. They did, they did
the tough things well, they did the smart things well.
Paul Movement excellent, Their their basketball IQ collectively super high.

(14:51):
I just thought, if you're if you're a fan of
likes the game and likes likes basketball, playing at that level,
I thought Michigan was a very easy team to like.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Hey, JP, don't change keep those video games on that TV. Okay, Yeah,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Kerry. We got to do it. You know, you have
to have some of the old school. By the way,
I got my my uncle, my dear uncle Robert for
for Christmas. I saw like, I like these vintage T shirts,
and I got him a T shirt. He's a long
time Lions fan. It was in the Techmobile logo. It's
just said touchdown Barry Sandard, and it had Verry Spike

(15:25):
in the ball like all of us have a certain age.
One of my favorite things about Techmobile is that everybody
in that in that spike scene, they all look the same.
So it could have been it could have been Buyer,
it could have been Christian okoye, it didn't matter. Like
they all spiked the ball the same way. But I
knew that was Barry Sanders and I got a bar

(15:46):
for Christmas and he loved it, so it made me happy.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi,
MLB Network insider Michigan Apologists. Most of his tweets the
last twenty four hours have been about Michigan and you're
getting set to go cover the NHL playoffs pretty soon.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, it is a great time of year, my friends.
Although somehow the Red Wings are not involved. I just
I don't know how they have stumbled yet again. But
they have the great storylines of the NHL playoffs. It's
none of them in the great city of Detroit.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
We'll take it, easybody, We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
All the best. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
That goes John Paul Morosi. Yeah, I mean he goes.
He goes from baseball to hockey, covers the playoffs like
he'll join his dog baseball coming from a big hockey game.
It was at the Olympics doing that as well. Yeah,
well he was at the Olympics because he's been trying,
Now I don't say this, he's been trying for the
last couple of years to get an interview with Pope Leo,
who was a huge Chicago White Sox fan. He's been

(16:42):
trying to get the first baseball interview with Pope Leo,
and I think he's been to Italy twice to try
to get the interview. I don't know that it's going
to happen, but I don't know. If he stands outside
the Vatican and yells like and say anything like hey, Pop,
come on down. John Paul Morosi, you know, because his
nickname is Pope for John Paul. So he goes, yeah, yeah,
I'm here, but he's he's really he's he's working that

(17:04):
interview with the Pope. But if anybody's gonna get it's
gonna be hit. Oh he's gonna get this school. He's
fluent an Italian, right, he got everything. I was like,
my money would be on John Paul. But I mean,
you know, the Polp's gotta be able to come down
and do the interview. Yeah, that'll be a little that'll
be that might be a little much. Yeah, I'd be
a little much just for an interview, right, it might
be tough. Jason Smith Kerry Rhodes in from Mike Harmen,

(17:25):
the Jason Smith stow with Mike Harmon tonight. Uh yeah,
maybe that Oklahoma City Lakers points spread was a little
bit generous for the Lakers. It is ninety to fifty
eight thunder with the lead now the minute forty to
go on the third quarter. Remember the Lakers playing tonight
without Lebron, without Luca, without Austin Reeves. JJ Reddick got

(17:48):
into it with Jared Vanderbilt. It's not been a great
last couple of days for the Lakers. We got more
on this story and another big NFL story on the way. Next.
This is Fox Sports Radio. So you're telling me it's
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Speaker 1 (18:42):
Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jets All
Pro safety Kerry Rhodes in for Harmon tonight. See that's
how you do it, ty Shirt, just like that.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's not bad.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's how you do it. I think it'd be better
that's how you do it.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
You can hype them up more. You gotta say, can
act excited he's here.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
I mean you.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Shouldn't be excited here. I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
You're soul awake?

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, how did you bring it up? Yeah? Now here's
the thing now, because we have to talk about this.
So you said beginning of the show what I said.
You said it on the air. It's it's fair game.
You said you are in bed by nine o'clock every night?
It is nine to twenty seven? Is it? Is it?

(19:23):
Or is it? Or is it eight twenty seven?

Speaker 5 (19:24):
It's eight twenty seven, guys, twenty seven real mountain, Mountain times.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, I twenty four studios, so so so, so it's
not you're in bed by nine o'clock. I asked you,
when's the last time you're up till eleven? You said
you couldn't remember. All right, So how do you feel
right now? A half hour past your bedtime?

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I was, and that's why you didn't see me the
whole break. I was looking for a computer. Oh okay,
all right, I'm gonna last pull it up to my waist.
I mean, you guys can't see I'm sitting down, but
I could have kept it real it makes me feel
like I'm home a little bit, okay, because I'm usually
sitting on the couch with a blanket up to my
neck like a grandmother. Anyway, Okay, all right, I'm kind
of sure missing that. So I was looking around, you know,
rummings in around through some of the draws in the back.

(20:04):
But I mean, energy wise, I think the coffee is
still at play right now.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, because you've you've been pretty consistent with the coffee. Yeah,
I'm worried about when I get home after this though.
Well you know what, you know what, you'll have every
once in a while, you know, you have one of
those nights like I feel like, I know, Ty Shirt's
got the old school coffee grounds. Just go just grab
a whole bunch of just stick it in your mouth
and like have it like a chaw and just have it.
Just say, and you know you can just wind up,

(20:30):
you know, and and and and sucking off of it
when you need the energy. Wow in there.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, that's a drop.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, just like yeah, it's like just like uh the
baseball players used to do. Now you're playing old man,
carry carry what up? Okay?

Speaker 8 (20:44):
You got to act to your old pro days. Get
some smelling salts right now. Oohe every two seconds.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's a good one as well. Think about that nine o'clock,
nine o'clock bedtime for jets, all pro safety carry roads.
You got ninety minutes left. You got the length of
a full length movie. You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, you're sure we're rocking right now? All right, that's
not bringing it up again. Let me think about it.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Just see, no, Carrie, there is a couch in the
old update studio.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Why why why are you telling me saying I want
to stay alerts a hospitality.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I'm not been a friend. I'm gonna get a good
four minutes here then exactly now to be now, to
be honest, now I this has been I don't know
if I'm if I'm special in this way. I don't
know if I need to be the people needed to
look at me and doctors and to say, wait, this
guy's guy really got something. But there's times where, you know,
if I have no energy in the middle of the

(21:33):
day for whatever reason, I go. You know, if I
just I don't even need to fall asleep, But if
I just close my eyes and I just sort of
like lose consciousness for just like maybe even like twenty
seconds or thirty seconds, like if I and then I
wake back up and go, okay, I'm good, like like
I feel like, you know, it's like like turning the
computer off when you're having problems, and then you turn
it back on and it resets. Like if I just

(21:54):
close my eyes, even if it's like thirty seconds or
even if I don't even feel like ever fell asleep,
if I'm just in like that nothing space for just
that short amount of time, I feel okay, I'm back.
I'm back. I don't know. I'm good. I'm recharged with
the battery is back on hundred percent. I'm good the
rest of the day. Mike, I mean take I'm gonna
try it right now. Hold on, you just tried you
just call me, Mike. No, you just good. No, it's

(22:16):
getting late. No, see it's getting I'm like, I'm like,
let me try this right now. I feel good, Mike.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Try Italian, Mike, when you shave your head, don't start that, Jason,
I'm gonna try your try this.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Let me tell you wreck if you have me in
the box here on this ape man front we're not
gonna I'm not gonna be able to stop. Ricky Williams,
I know what I'm telling you. I'm all right, all right,
let's go. You want to try it for thirty seconds?
I try.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I don't, but because if I do, it's going to
be a wrap and right now energy, the energy is
good and we're not going to break that up.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
What's that funt? I was carry's head just hitting the
hitting the bottom therein that one.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Time.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
I'll bring you some song, sens I got. That's what
you need, thank you, that's what you're used to. So okay, Jason,
you ever use smelling of salts?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Uh No, you've never done it. That's not and that's
not that's the I've never used smelling salts.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
Stop lying there. They're crazy. So you know how you
just mentioned it's like an instant like you close your eyes.
That's basically that without like the calmness. Okay, it's an
instant just like I like, oh my god, I just
feel like there's like the fires of hell in my
nose right now.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Okay, because the one guy we've seen, like Aaron Rodgers,
we've seen him take smelling salts like right, It like Hey,
I'm good. Now, I'm good. Wow, whether on the couch
with me? Yeah, you're he needs back and forth to
each other. You go all right now speaking of a
medical question. Right now, we're we're watching the Lakers get

(23:47):
absolutely drubbed here. Yeah. It was a twenty point spread,
and before the game started we felt it feels like
it's a little low. The Lakers are without their three
best players. Luka Dancis is probably somewhere in Europe trying
to find to wait, you know, for alternate medication, which
we'll get to. The Thunder lead this with seven minutes
to go in the fourth quarter, one oh three to

(24:08):
sixty six. It is a thirty seven point lead by
Oklahoma City. So and we when we talked about this
spread the beginning of the game, I said, ah, thirty two.
You said the Lakers are gonna cut it up and
they're gonna lose by twenty. They're gonna play gutty and
lose by twenty. That's not happening as I started out
that way though, But Shay said, what did you say, Shay?

(24:30):
You said thirty five, and you said that would be
and you're right on the number right now with thirty
five close. You're feeling pretty good though. Oh bro, wait,
oh Bri, I thought, say wait, oh, get Brie, bring
it on. I know you got what's running coming up
in a minute. I got you quid. You were right?

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Oh good shots fire oka shot okay.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, but so you had thirty five.

Speaker 9 (24:53):
I had thirty five, even you had twenty.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
And that's what Yeah, no, Kerry, I'll be free. Oh
why are you happy for him? He's wrong by so much.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
He was so positive. He brought that positivity we needed.
But I mean, I don't care. I hate the Lakers,
but it's fine.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
But you are in game bet Bree, and you know
you're in game bet breed, and it sounds it is
a thirty five point game, right, You are right, you
are right on the number with thirty five.

Speaker 9 (25:22):
So I really should be live bet bree, is what you're.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Saying, live bet bre Yeah, yeah, yeah, your live bet Breed.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
I will definitely start doing that while I work the shift.
I'll make like an account and like a draft Kings
or something, and then we can just do live bets.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
No good, you're going to put your stats on your
record like I'm twelve, and but I.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Need to use like a New York VPN. Can I
borrow your use a VP?

Speaker 10 (25:47):
So it's like Draft Kings and it'll be like the
live Berett Bree segment.

Speaker 9 (25:51):
And then you guys can give me money and then
I'll bet.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Notice how something and got money? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (25:58):
Yeah, Like what money do I have to be betting?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Did you bet the money I gave you?

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
No, no, but you would have lost it anyway, understanding
that I'm just driving that.

Speaker 9 (26:04):
Yeah, I put it in gas money. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Oh good, okay, I just we'll get you what's trending
coming up in a couple minutes. Now, did we mention this?
This Laker game right here? So Luka Doncic just said
he is going to travel to Europe to try to
seek care for his hamstring. Now, for me, like Europe
is like the Wild West as far as medicine goes,
Like okay, if you can't get the best medicine here
in the United States, like I'm going to go for

(26:26):
some treatment in Europe. Now we know Kobe did it
for a long time and the career he had was
able to have in his late thirties. So when you
see it as an athlete, as an NFL player and
you go, hey, oh, I'm not getting cleared here. I'm
going to go for this whatever experiment experimental medical treatment
in Europe? Are you on board with that? Are you
not on board with Does it scare you? Does it not?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Where are you with that? Oh? That's it. That's a
good question, I think. I think there would be fear
around it.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
But also these guys who have already been there to
test it and already have been testing this for a while,
they have enough you know, documentation, and enough I guess,
like real life scenarios of this being a progressive thing
that helps athletes more more than it hinders. So there's
enough data that says that some of these places that

(27:16):
they're going to they're not as experimental as we think
they are. They've been they've been tried enough. So I
think with Luca obviously that being more more home than
foreign for him, he can feel comfortable doing that for sure,
And so for me if I needed it, like late
in my career, like a Kobe, even Lebron's been over
over there a little bit getting some of the treatments
and stuff. If you got the money to go try

(27:37):
it and see if they can prolong your career. Why
not would you.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Are going to do it if it was if it
was over for you, like we got to give you
a new blood, We're going to do all this for you.
What would you were going to do it? I would?

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah, if I had enough, like I said, enough data
that says that this thing works.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
And I know some people that went to do it,
and for sure, Yeah, so it's worked. So people you know,
the one to do it, it's worked out. Yes, Like
what it like they've gone and it was was it
more like a platelet thing? Was it was plasma? Was
it blood?

Speaker 7 (28:01):
Like?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well? What was it? Both? Okay, there's both scenarios.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Yeah, I mean a Marios Stottamayer was uh one that
was early on that did that as well.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Okay, and I know Mario pretty well. Yeah, okay, so
he worked for.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Yeah, obviously, I mean he was his his cartlet stuff
was was was a real thing. The knee at the
bone on bone stuff within his knees, and so for
him to even be able to he wasn't the same
stat Amars, but he was. He definitely played some more
serviceable time and actually still was able to keep some
of the athleticism that he had so yeah, So why

(28:31):
don't you say.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
If that's become more of an acceptable form for for
some and now that not for everybody? Yes, why is
it in Europe? Like, why hasn't anybody like, you know,
we got lots of doctors here. Why isn't anybody come
out with a Hey, it's a bit of an alternative treatment,
but I can do it. Like because the last time
you go back to is and we talked about a
lot tonight is when Aaron Rodgers went in and had

(28:53):
his achilles surgery with the Jets. It was one of
those hey, it's a it's a new cutting edge kind
of procedure that you know Rogers certainly Rogers and how
he feels about medicine, like he'd be the guy I
would expect. Okay, he had the surgery, so it was, hey,
we're doing this and refusing it. You can come back faster,
and he could have. There was talk that if the
Jets were still on the playoff race after he got hurt,

(29:15):
he would have come back, but they weren't, so we
stayed out like why don't why don't you think we
have it in this in the United States more where
there's not at least a few doctors where hey, here's
a center that does it. Here's a place I can
go where I can do it here and not have
to worry about well I got to go to Germany
or I have to go to Switzerland and go there
to try it.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Well, a lot of things about healthcare in general in
our country is designed for us to need them and
go back, right, So it's not about.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Quote unquote healing all the time.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
So so going to a place that's specific for healing
and actually doing something to get you back at your optimal,
optimal playing experience, then you would probably go there. The
only thing about the two as well, I mean going
over there to do an experimental treatment is probably going
to be a little bit more costly. So if you
don't have the available funds to do that as well,
that's another issue as well.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So so you're saying you go to doctors that keep
you sick, I mean that's what that's what that's cure.
Keerry Rhades, now where I gave him something that's gonna
happen back here in a week exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Jason, you were a kid, you were in college, right, Yeah,
you might have went to like a guy to maybe
find some marijuana or too. Maybe right, Uh, we need
to go to a guy. I'm just saying, like a
plug a dealer.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Uh no, I was always the guy. Like does anybody
know somebody like that.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'm just gonna tell you this. Do you think a
drug dealer would want you to not take drugs anymore?

Speaker 6 (30:35):
Like?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Would you want to? Would do you think your guy
would give you? We'd be like, hey, man, I hope
you stop doing this. You want to keep buying.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
That's what I'm saying. You're right, they're drug dealers. Wow, Okay,
so I should not go to doctors. Doctors are unsafe.
It's not about going not going to doctors.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
It's about what they're giving you, Jason to uh continue
to quote unquote get better, but you need that thing
to get better.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, I guy, Okay, Yeah, this is what they do.
You have a rock in your shoe. Rather than take
the rock out, they numb your foots. You can walk
with rock, and then when it wears off, you're like,
oh it hurts, come back, boy.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
People go to medical school for a long time to
do stuff like that. Okay, all right, now share you
got some stuff on this too.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
So now Alex could maybe be right.

Speaker 8 (31:18):
But according to Kenton Fibble, a primary care sports medicine specialist,
the theaters cyanide, the reason wait, what.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
You're saying.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Cyanide is yeah, I do not recommend side.

Speaker 8 (31:38):
It's something that's an apples. That's where you check in,
but you don't check out.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Actually, the dosage of it is good for you. THEA okay, stop,
we're not no, that's not no, no no.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But no.

Speaker 8 (31:48):
So the reason he is maybe going to Europe is
to get something called ultra sided guided plate platal rich plasma,
which is a PRP injection or a stem cell injection.
And in the US you're only able to get those
injections coming from your own body, So you're only able
to get from something from like another part of your
body and put it into basically that other part of

(32:10):
your body, which is what Luca is injured.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
So what you're hearing is in Europe he has a clone.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yes, get it from other people and all that.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
So it's a lot easier, easier access, better to find it.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's just easy. I did not see this conversation going
this way. I did not see that. I did not
see that. I think we peaked at Cedars Cyanide. Yeah,
we did. That was that was?

Speaker 8 (32:33):
That was as you guys can tell him, I know
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, yeah, you know what this whole thing means. It's
time to find out what's trend here. It is bring
Bureau save us? What do you have for us?

Speaker 10 (32:43):
You do PRP and it could be like an anti
asing thing I've heard, yes, and actually I would prefer
that over botox like in the future. I don't know
if I'll ever do it, but they take the cells
from your own body and they inject it in your
face to like plump you up, and it kind of
accelerates collagen production.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah you know what that was? That was the plot
of the substance. Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Oh was it really yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Did work out for Demi work
outmember Death Becomes Her?

Speaker 9 (33:13):
That was like a really cool I feel like the
substance was kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Was that not not like that? No, I just saw
it Death Becomes Her on Broadway? Yes, very very similar,
really yes, very similar. Wow.

Speaker 9 (33:23):
Wow, I love that movie. That's like one of my
favorite movies ever.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
It's a good one. It's a great movie. Very underrated.

Speaker 10 (33:29):
Okay, so speaking of the young people, Steph Curry. In
the second game back they with the Warriors, they beat
the Kings one ten to one oh five. The Pelicans
knocked off the Jazz for their tenth straight loss, one
fifty six to one thirty seven. The Celtics beat the
Hornets one thirteen to one oh two, and right now
the magic number is forty the Thunder. They're beating the

(33:51):
Lakers one twenty to eighty with two and a half
minutes left to go in the fourth quarter. So we're
gonna be a little bit. I'm going it's going over
a little bit. So my number.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Third so far, you're not live no no.

Speaker 9 (34:06):
Is just a fail and the Clippers are beating the Mavericks.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Story fail Brion say, f al did you really just yeah?

Speaker 9 (34:12):
I let live fail like fail failure.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
L F A I l F no f A L
that's fall f A I l F A I L
is fail. My goodness is last year? Have any of
you gone to school?

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I don't fast.

Speaker 9 (34:29):
Do you know what time it is?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay? Anyways, you guys, I know what you're doing. You
guys are not sitting a good example for me. Okay,
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 9 (34:41):
So sorry. Clippers.

Speaker 10 (34:42):
On top of the Mavericks went o four to ninety three,
five minutes left to go the fourth quarter.

Speaker 9 (34:46):
The Rockets are.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
Beating the Suns fifty nine to fifty eight, nine minutes
left to go in the third quarter. In Major League Baseball,
really quick. The Mets of one four straight with a
four to three win over the Diamondbacks. The Guardians walked
it off against Royals two to one, and the Blue
Jays have lost six straight, while the Dodgers have won
five straight after LA outscored Toronto four to one.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Back to you guys, Thank you Bree. Coming up next,
we got a big NFL story on the way and
I promise no math or spelling. That's next. Jason Smith,
Jets All Pro Safety carry roads in for Mike Harmon.
This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon,
Jets All Pro Safety carry rhoads in for Harmon. Tonight,
we got some We got a crazy NFL story coming
your way in a few minutes. But this is something
care I've wanted to talk to you about since we
started the show tonight. Big NFL story today, four Bears

(35:46):
defensive lineman Steve McMichael, Bear's Hall of Famer passed away
at the age of sixty seven. Now we knew this happened,
We knew it was coming for a long time from
you had a long battle with als as well. And
you know the big video of all the Bears that
were you know, as former teammates that showed up, you know,
at his bedside to help him at the end, big

(36:08):
member of the eighty five Bears. It comes out today
that he was diagnosed with CTE. Yep, chronic trum and
anslopathy also known as CTE, which we see affect a
lot of players and a lot of it is common
in players when they played earlier in the seventies and eighties,
back before there was a lot of concussion knowledge that
that we have now. Now, you played in in in

(36:30):
the in you know, post two thousand. Your career went
from the mid two thousands to the to the mid teams.
Do you think about CTE? Do you think about it?
Is it something that that is that is that when
when you think about your life and going forward to
you know, being because now you're forty two, forty three, Like,
is that something that that you think about that do

(36:50):
I have to try to to to work around this?
Is it something that I feel I'm going to have
to deal with you? I try to do things not
dealing with like where where are you when it comes
to Oh.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I definitely take preventive measures for myself all the time.
So I'm very much aware of it. I'm very much
reminded by it by all the daily stories that we
see now.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I think so many more people are.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Without even the proper diagnosis of what their situation really is.
It's kind of almost by default becoming that's what it is,
or that's what they had as well. So it's it's
very present and clear that it's out there and it's
a real thing for us. And so for me very proactive.
I do a lot of things. I'll go do imaging
on my head a lot, and just to make sure

(37:36):
a lot of things are still firing off. I take test,
I do all kinds of things to make sure that
my brain is working and firing off. And so I
think taking those like preventive measures and also being you know,
very out in front of this and.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Trying to.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Delay it or push it away or not have the
effects that could be long lasting, that can affect me
down the line. I'm very much aware of and I'm
very much in that preventative stage with it as well.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Do you feel like when you played the equipment was
good enough? Do you feel like it was that Okay,
there's a difference between when I played, which was just
you know, ten years ago, ten or so years ago,
versus when these guys all played in the seventies and
eighties when we didn't know enough about it.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Yeah, I don't think there's too many adages that have
been added. Right, even though you know you're seeing the
guardian cap, you're seeing extra padding, you're seeing all these things,
You're still not going to be able to make that
game safe. It's too big, too fast, too strong, trying
to hit a moving targets hard. So where you're putting

(38:43):
your head or where you're making contact with somebody else's
head you just can't prevent, So it won't be any safer.
And I think people, I mean, you can always look
at the numbers, and you can skew the numbers to
look the way you wanted to as far as it
being safer, But as long as you have of you know,
six five guys that are running full fours and you're

(39:04):
trying to tackle that or they're trying to tackle you,
that's going to be called to conturn. And so I
don't think it's safer, and I don't think there's a
way to do that. It's just inevitable. The only thing
that you could do that would be different it's taking
the helmet away, and you just can't do that for
the aesthetic of the game.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Would you would you feel safer now, would you feel
would you feel better with how things are going now
or would you still feel the same.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yeah, I mean I feel I feel better about the conversation.
Like people are aware of it, right. So it's not
like when I came in as a rookie where I
got a concussion.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I'd had this true story.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
I had a concussion in a preseason game against the
Giants again, and You're like, no, I can't go out
the game.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I gotta play, you know what I mean, Like I
gotta go back.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
So I'm literally out, come out for a couple of plays,
and come back in and finish the game. Like the
fact that they're not allow allowing them to do that.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's safe, that's smart. Those are preventative measures.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
But as far as making the concussions of thing up
the past, it just won't be because it's just it's
just too physical of a game to avoid that at
all costs.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Jasus s Mitchell, Kerry Rhodes in from my car. I
thought about that today thinking when you were coming in,
I'm like, boy, you see this, and I just wonder,
like what guys are thinking now with their playing days
in the rear view mirror. Okay, what what do I
have to do now? How does this affect my life
on a daily basis? It's like everything else.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
So you have to keep that muscle firing off. So
do the things that you can do to make that
make it as strong as possible moving forward, and then
maybe some of those symptoms won't consume you as you
get older.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
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